June 22, 2024 • 34 mins
Could cloning be the key to unlocking immortality, or does it tread too closely to playing god? Join us on this captivating journey as we unravel the mysteries of cloning, starting with an exploration of the genetic intricacies between identical twins and clones. From the groundbreaking techniques like embryo twinning and somatic cell nuclear transfer to the legendary tale of Dolly the sheep, we highlight the scientific milestones that have paved the way for modern cloning. This episode isn't just about the science; it's a deep dive into the ethical quandaries and future possibilities that cloning technology presents, making it a must-listen for curious minds and science buffs alike.
Ever heard of Clonade's bold claim of creating the first human clone named Eve? We navigate the murky waters of human cloning, including the controversial stories surrounding Clonade and enigmatic rapper Kid Boo's assertion of being a clone. Drawing parallels to dystopian narratives like "What Happened to Monday," we ponder the ethical and fantastical implications of cloning, from mythical creatures to real-world genetic experiments gone awry. Amidst the thought-provoking discussions, we keep things light-hearted with a playful debate on whether our co-host Nicholas might actually be a clone. Don't miss out on this engaging episode that effortlessly blends science, ethics, and a touch of humor!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
technically, I don't even have to do that anymore now
I'm just doing it for fun.
What's up everybody?
Three geeks chatting here.
I'm nicholas I'm stacy.
I'm hannah and we have a veryinteresting episode for you
today cloning.
Got a question for you guys howclose are twins to being clones
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?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm assuming you know the answer, so why don't you
just tell us, Nick?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Because I want to hear what your guess is.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I would say probably pretty close.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I mean they're almost identical.
Their genetics are identical,it's just they might have
different things, like there'smirror twins which are one's
left-handed and one'sright-handed, which I do know a
set of those.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I didn't even know those existed, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah they're called mirror twins.
That's kind of cool.
Then you have fraternal twins,which is, you know, one can be
male and female, I know a set ofthose.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I know some of those.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I know some of those they have identical twins which
obviously is identical and Idon't know.
They can have a little bit of adifference, because I knew a
set of twins and the way youtold them apart was one had a
beauty mark.
So I'm not entirely sure.
I think that was technicallyidentical but I'm not entirely
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sure.
Just to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I'm not a twin.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm not a twin.
I'm not entirely sure, just tobe honest with you.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I'm not a twin.
I'm not a twin.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm not a twin either .
No, those are twins.
Um, identical twins are almostthe same thing as clones, as
they share the same genes.
So what is cloning?
Do you guys know much aboutclones?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Just what I learned from Attack of the Clones.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
They are genetically modified.
Well, those were to grow faster.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Genetically modified to grow faster.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's what those were.
On the Star Wars thing Normaltwins don't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm not talking about twins I'm what those were on
the Star Wars thing Normal twinsdon't do that I'm not talking
about twins.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm talking about clones.
Clones, yeah, I don't know.
Do they?
Do they actually do that forthings?
I know there's people that havetheir pets cloned, but I don't
know if they'd have the sameexact personality.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
They probably wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I think that would go under the nurture versus nature
, because those play a hugefactor.
So even then clones would bedifferent.
So clones are made from DNA ofliving creatures and they're
inserted into carriers likebacteria or yeast.
So this is essentially howclones are created.
Um, but we're going to continuewith.
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Cloning is done two ways embryotwinning, where the egg is
split and reinserted into themother, or somatic cell.
Nuclear transfer, which is abig word that I'm really glad I
typed up and didn't rememberbecause I completely forgot that
that was a word.
It's taking the DNA of ananimal and sticking it into an
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egg, making an embryo and thenputting it back into the female.
So these are the two wayscloning is done.
From my research, these comefrom.
National Geographic is where Ifound all my information from.
To cite my sources here now Iwill tell you this a lot of my
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source is National Geographic.
But to make this even more funis I found some sketchy sources
about stories that I had heardin high school that actually
made me want to do this episode,because I went and found
articles that discussed thesescientists that a lot of people
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have tried to debunk.
But there's not a lot ofinformation, and we're going to
get to that later in the episodebecause I'm really excited for
that one.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
We're not getting into that puppy episode from
that anime, are we?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, so anyways.
The first one's about puttingdogs and humans together.
No, we're not, that's splicing.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh, that's splicing.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And that's a completely different episode
that we will get into later onwhen I pick another topic.
That's like three topics away,though, because I already have
my next topic and it's notsplicing.
Here's another question for youguys Do you guys know what the
first animal cloned was?
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I want a sheep, a sheep and no.
So this was back in 1996, whichfeels weird because this
cloning is older than I am,which means I could be a clone
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theoretically.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
You're not.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I know I'm not, although I look identical to my
grandfather.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
My dad looks identical to his grandfather.
That's called genetics honey.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, I know, but that is what cloning is.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's playing with genetics 1996 was when this
happened.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, so we're going back to 1996.
Hannah, you weren't born yet.
I was a year away from beingborn.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I was nine.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And you were nine.
The first animal to be clonedwas 1996.
And it was a sheep named Dolly.
That's the sheep, Dolly thesheep, Dolly.
That's the sheep Dolly thesheep.
Since then they have clonedcows, cats, deer horses and
rabbits.
However, due to ethical reasons, they have not cloned humans.
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So people believe, Plus theamount of failures it takes for
them to properly clone DollyDolly went through a whole bunch
of failures.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It takes for them to properly clone dolly dolly went
through a whole bunch offailures the reprogramming
process that cells seem to gothrough during cloning is not
perfect, and the embryosproduced by nuclear transfer
often show abnormal development.
Making clone mammals was highlyinefficient.
In 1996, dolllly was the onlylamb that survived to adulthood
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from 277 attempts.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, so Dolly the sheep was the first out of 277
failed clones.
What do you guys think cloningcould branch off into?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
order 66 for cloning?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I don't know what.
Do you guys think cloning couldactually branch off into the
concept of taking these genesand reproducing them into the
same uh, in this case the samesheep?
Do you guys think that ifcloning was successful I mean,
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we're looking at a 28-year-oldproject Do you guys think they
still clone?
Do you guys think they'vecloned humans?
I mean, I really want to knowyour guys' thoughts on this.
I don't think they would clonehumans?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You do not think they still clone?
Do you guys think they'vecloned humans?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I mean, I really want to know your guys' thoughts on
this.
I don't think they would clonehumans.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You do not think they would clone humans, not until,
like you said, they wouldn't getperfect because of ethical
reasons.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I don't think scientists care about ethical
reasons.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I mean, there's probably evil scientists out
there.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I don't know what are your thoughts, anna, and I want
to hear your thoughts we watchgeek movies.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
There's evil scientists, you know I would
think, maybe over time and who'sto say that someone's not tried
and just haven't failed toclone somebody?
Could there be someone clonedright now?
I don know, but I could seesomeone maybe trying over time.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I am so glad you brought that up, hannah, because
let me tell you Straight asnotes no.
Let me tell you about Clonade,clonade, clonade From the
Bahamas.
Gosh, I thought that guy fromthe Kool-Aid commercials
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Claw-nade From the Bahamas.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Gosh, I thought that guy from the Kool-Aid
commercials was going to comeout, so December 27th 2002,
claw-nade moved to the Bahamaswhere he cloned the first baby.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
The Bahamas where he cloned the first baby.
Now, this is where my notes arenot from the most credible
sources.
I'm gonna tell you this rightnow.
However, I have seen multiplearticles about this guy since
high school and he has claimedto have started cloning to clone
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the first baby, and he namedthis baby Eve Kid.
You not?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
It's a girl.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
By 2004, he claimed to have cloned 14 humans.
This man has a website stillthat is severely outdated, but I
googled his website.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Is it from the movie what Happened on Monday?
Have you heard of that movie?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I've not heard of that movie.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's like people are named Monday, tuesday, wednesday
, thursday, friday, saturday and, I think, sunday and that
person can only go out that day.
Oh, and then something happensthe Monday and she goes missing.
But the people are identical.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I've seen that.
Yeah, they're all twins.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
It's called what Happened to Monday.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, because they're only allowed to have so many
children.
I think it's a Chinese film orsomething.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I don't know, I've not watched it.
I've not watched it.
I've almost watched it.
I was just right into it.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh no, I've got to go look that up after the podcast.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I mean, it's a fictional movie, but you know.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
All the people are identical and only Monday can go
out on Monday and Tuesday cango out on Tuesday.
But nobody knows that.
I've seen someone describe thatmovie.
I've never heard of the movie.
Now he's claimed to have cloned14 humans.
However, these are disbelieveddue to the fact that he keeps
the babies and their familiesprivate and so no one knows who
these kids are.
And I did some math here In2002, he cloned one human named
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Eve.
2004 he cloned 14 kids, so heclaims by 2024 at that rate, he
would have 154 cloned humans onaverage now.
And the question is where areall these kids?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Well, on a private island.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Someone In the.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Bahamas.
They won the lottery.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Someone came out and claimed to be one of the cloned
children, and it is a famousrapper who, here, I guess I've
never heard of him, but he is amore famous rapper named Kid Boo
, who came out and said he wascloned, but most tossed it out
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as a public stunt.
With that said, his website isstill active.
You can find it.
Uh, he does more than justcloning children, but that is
something you can find on thewebsite.
Um, it is believed that he'snot the only one to have cloned
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humans there.
There are other scientists whohave come out and, uh, claim to
have cloned children.
Um, one of my favorite storiesthat I heard was a couple um in
one of the european nations whocame out and cloned a child and
got so much hate from it that,um, the kids picked up, or the
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scientists picked up, the kidand they left, and no one knows
what happened to them.
With that said, though, thereare actual accounts of cloning
and humans who have apparentlybeen cloned so far, we have been
told.
Well, what do you guys thinkabout this?
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I mean, what do you guys thinkabout this?
I mean, what do you guys thinkabout that?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I think it's kind of got a death stranding thing
going down here or something.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
A death stranding thing going down.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
The babies.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, we're going to use the clone to children for
energy.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
The baby bottle thing .
Yeah, baby bottle pops, babybottle pops, baby bottle pops,
and we're canceled, lined up onthe wall like on the video game,
and they're tubes that you putthem on to re-energize them.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, uh, the the thing is like
people still clone animals, likeanimals get cloned all the time
.
I mean mean there's really Ithink it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I mean it is strange, but I feel like I've
seen someone, and they had theircat cloned.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I don't really want a clone of me running around.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I don't need no more than me.
I don't even like myself now.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I don't want a clone of myself.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean I can see people doing it to get a pet
back, but I mean just just goadopt a new one, uh well, I'll
adopt one.
There's honestly animals thatneed there's.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
There's no regulation for eating cloned animals
either.
You can, you, you can eatcloned animals, not like cloned
pets.
I'm not saying like, yeah,we're going to cook up some cats
, but what I'm saying is andwe're definitely canceled what
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I'm saying is that if they clonechickens and cows and all that,
they can theoreticallyslaughter them and sell the meat
.
I mean it is.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
But would that drive up the price of meat or would
that lower it?
Because I mean all the all thetrials they have to do.
That would drive up the price.
Then you got the people whowant the organic stuff with
another chemicals and stuff inthere.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Then you're going to have to not only look for
organic, for natural chickenswell, here, here's the thing,
though, um, by regulation, uh,they don't have to say it's a
cloned animal.
Yeah, I remember reading awhole thing, america has a lot
more stuff than you know.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Europe bans a lot more ingredients than america,
so I'm just saying they probablywon't tell us, but they'd have
to tell them.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I mean technically not.
If you think about it, it'sjust another animal that's been
made.
I mean because they'rerecreating it and putting it
back, so it goes through thesame birthing process and all
that.
It's just identical to whatever.
It's just identical to whateverit's created from.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I think it would still drive up the prices.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I honestly don't know .
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Because you've got to do an extra step rather than
just, you know, having animals.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It is believed that we are currently eating cloned
animals.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You're talking about that in a few minutes.
Is that, when we get foodpoisoning?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
that's probably why we don't get food poisoning.
We probably get food poisoningfrom actual animals.
Just be honest here.
But it is believed that we eatcloned animals right now, that
we eat cloned animals, and theseare all conspiracy theories,
don't get me wrong.
I'm not telling you if Ibelieve it or not.
I'm just saying these are allconspiracy theories.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm not telling you if Ibelieve it or not.
I'm just saying these arefascinating concepts or the
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topic in my opinion, because,but even if we got into cloning
humans which, in my opinion, inless regulated uh countries
where they are able toexperiment on wider range of
things legally, I truly believethey probably have cloned
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multiple humans.
I mean, yeah, I mean america isvery regulated when it comes to
our experiments, but othercountries aren't.
Other countries aren't.
Those other countries, you cando these crazy testing and not
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get in trouble.
I mean, I think 27 years sincewe cloned the first, or 28 years
since we cloned the first sheep, I highly doubt that no one's
cloned an actual human, even ifI mean I just there's.
It would baffle me more to tellme that we have not tested
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human cloning I think there'sprobably been more cloning than
we know of I think there's beena lot more cloning than we know
of especially, especially ofanimals.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I can't vouch for humans, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I will say recently, harvard lost scientists because
they were paid to go to adifferent country and I'm not
going to name the country.
It's nothing like that countryand nothing like that.
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They were paid to defect fromAmerica and go to this country
so they could finishexperimenting on things that
America would not regulate, thatthey could do human trials in
this other country versus humantrials in America.
And so Harvard actually had anincident where a lot of their
students defected, or a lot oftheir scientists that they gave
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grants to defected and went overto another country to do these
human trials.
I mean it's we have anothercountry who's doing these human
trials.
Keep that in mind.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
That's how you tell us what goes on that we don't
know about.
Yeah, didn't the?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
government.
Just tell us that we havealiens.
They're real.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, and no one cared, because they were more
worried about their rent thanthey were about the actual
aliens.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Like aliens from space is what they told us.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So really is anyone going to bat an eye if clones
start?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
popping up, or is it just actual clones and they put
it off as aliens?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Okay, so I'm not going to touch base on this
episode of what I'm what I'mgonna say, but I will say I have
.
There are theories andconspiracies, uh, that are going
to be a really fun episode.
That is like four episodes.
That's like my when I do myfourth episode moment.
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When I get to my fourth topic,we we're going to be discussing
multi-human outer or Kegels.
Do what when I get to my fourthtopic?
So, like three topics away fromthis one, we'll be discussing
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humans outside of the plane, ofwhere we know of, outside of the
planet we know of, because Igot, I have some wild episodes
planned and one of them involveshumans that are not, that we
have never met before, that liveoutside of our realm of reality
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, I guess is what I'm going tosay.
So we'll be coming back to thatepisode.
And then we have, I know, andthen I do have episodes planned
for aliens later on, but nothingin the near future.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Well, I'm just saying we didn't bat an eyelash at
aliens.
Really, are we going to batthat much of an eyelash at
clones, unless some weird stuffjust happens?
You drank your little spicything there, didn't you?
All the spice went down to thebottom.
Yeah, that thing was nasty.
I didn't you?
All the spice went down to thebottom.
Yeah, that thing was nasty.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I didn't like it.
What is this?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's tea, that's my tea Strawberry tea.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Oh, it tastes really good Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It has a little stevia in it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
We did not bat an eye when it came to aliens, but I
think everyone kind of alreadyknew.
No one walked around.
Even the biggest skeptics werelike there's probably something
out there.
I mean I don't, it didn'tsurprise me, but I believe
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everything.
I mean everything.
We had a cat outside our houseand I'm pretty sure it was a
skinwalker.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And that's how we disappear.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I'm just saying, and that's not the only time.
I pulled into my driveway andI've heard screams nearby out in
the middle of areas thatthere's just no one around.
There's no one there and I'vejust heard screams and then I've
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seen figures off in thedistance.
Either I'm crazy which is ahighly possibility, not going to
mark that one out or recentlywe've been populated with
skinwalkers.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You're not supposed to talk about them.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You're not supposed to say their name because it
draws them.
And ever since I started sayingskinwalkers, weird things have
been happening and we just hearda creak in this house.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The house creaks all the time.
Yeah, our house is haunted,that might have been my back too
.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I just stretched what is a skinwalker.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
A skinwalker.
So skinwalkers are creatures.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
What if they clone a skinwalker?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
What if they make?
What if skinwalkers werecreated by malfunction science?
Well, they've been around forso long.
Huh, not really good.
So skinwalkers, what askinwalker is hannah?
It is believed to have been, atone point, a shaman otherwise
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known.
They're not witches, but interms of what we're talking
about, they're sort of anoff-branch of a witch.
So shamans are very natural,they're very.
They do a lot of like how do Iput it?
Herbs and medicine, and Like aD&D druid.
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Yeah, like a D&D druid.
They're very wilderness andit's believed a skinwalker was
once human, once a human shaman,who transforms into these
creatures now, and the only wayto really kill one is you have
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to know its actual name.
So if they don't tell you theirname, then you can't really
stop one.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So you need a phone book and you just start.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
But if they're a shaman?
If they're, Shamans are veryold belief too.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So people think these exist.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, I mean some people there are.
So there are beliefs.
They're not really common thisway where we live, not.
So you know, you got like thechupacabra right.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, you ever hear of a wendigo.
That's what I think this wholetime I'm trying to think of that
name.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So you ever hear.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
You've heard of a wendigo right it sounds familiar
, but I don't know if I can tellyou exactly it's in a video
game um, they're.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
It got popular in a video game.
Uh, until Dawn was wherethey're from.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That was the one video game.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
They live in woods and the wilderness and a lot of
times they're depicted as deer.
They have antlers and stufflike that.
But they're big humanoidcreatures and until Dawn I don't
know how accurate this is tothe actual legend of Wendigos.
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Until Dawn showed them ascannibals.
They were humans who gottrapped in a mine and they were
eating other humans to surviveand they transformed into these
creatures.
I don't know how accurate thisis to the actual lore behind
real life Wendigos.
Quotations on real lifeSkinwalkers are a lot of times
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confused for Wendigos,skinwalkers and Wendigos are
very popular out in theAppalachian Mountains.
Skinwalkers and Wendigos arevery popular out in the
Appalachian Mountains,skinwalkers specifically.
I don't know the full detail ofwhere Wendigos are really known
in the United States.
Some people do believe in them,a lot of people.
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Surprisingly, if you ever lookup on TikTok Appalachian
Mountains, you see a lot ofweird stuff.
The Appalachian Mountains is avery weird place, regardless of
if you believe in thesecreatures or not.
The Appalachian Mountain.
There's a lot of people outthere who do these end of night
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rituals where they block offtheir windows, they make sure
everything's closed, they dimtheir lights so they don't draw
any unwanted attention Becauseto them skinwalkers, stuff like
that, are a real thing, it is inthe.
I mean it's to them it's veryreal.
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You got Skinwalker Ranch, whichis they've had so many
documentaries about this place.
I mean it's insane and I meanwe've gone off topic from
cloning.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
But so we're getting too podcast out of this one.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Do what?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Sounds a little creepy.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
It is, but and here's where it's getting, here's to
turn it back around with cloning.
Is cloning's no different thana lot of, a lot of this weird,
uh, weird concepts?
I mean, we, we have unexplainedum, creatures like skinwalkers
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and wendigos, um, but then yougot concepts like cloning.
I mean clonings.
You could create thesecreatures with genetic
modification and all you'redoing with cloning is you're
moving genes.
I mean, scientists have alreadystarted gene editing.
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You can edit genes.
That's part of splicing.
Splicing is literally takingDNA from one creature, combining
it with DNA from anothercreature, taking DNA from one
creature combining it with DNAfrom another creature.
There was a whole documentaryon TV when I was a kid about
them splicing eggs from chickensand recreating dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
We have several movies about why that is a very
bad idea.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Exactly.
But I mean in all honesty, youdo have these weird phenomenons
like that.
I mean so I don't know if I.
I will say I don't know if Ibelieve in skinwalkers and
Wendigos.
I don't know if cloning humanshave actually happened to me.
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I like to imagine they have Tome.
I like to imagine they have.
Personally, I like to live onthat side of the fantasy line
versus life is kind of boringand normal.
Maybe that's just my opinion.
That's how I personally view it.
It's more fun to believe for me.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Where's my dragon?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Don't even get me started on dragons.
Where are my dragons Forcloning stuff?
Where's my dragon?
Don't even get me started ondragons.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Where are my dragons For cloning stuff?
Where's my dragons?
I have cats.
I need some dragons.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Anna looks like she wants to say something and if I
get on the dragon topic, we'regoing to skier bad.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
We have already skier , bad we're coming back to that
we skier bad every time.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I was just going to say that I'm sure cloning of
humans has definitely been tried.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Now whether they were successful or not who knows.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
So what are you guys' opinions on cloning, though?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I am not an expert, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I would not do it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
No, I'd clone.
You just said at the beginningthat you don't even like
yourself.
You don't want another one.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
No, I don't want one of me.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So who would you clone?
Who would you clone?
What would you clone?
Probably my brother Clone.
I don't think he'd want thateither.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I mean he's older.
So like by the time he reached,by the time the clone became,
my brother's age, my brotherwould be.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Have you talked to your brother about this?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Cloning my brother.
Yes, I'm going to just surprisehim.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I'm pretty sure you got a consent.
There's the thing calledconsent Christmas present.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Christmas present what are?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
you going to do?
Walk up to him and just go, heybro Merry, you know, Happy
Hanukkah.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Here's you as an infant.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I'm sure he would absolutely love that to add to
his other two children.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I think his wife would be more upset than anyone.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Like what I said.
What are you going to do?
Walk up to him and just yankhis hair out.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You know what I might ?
I'll just draw some blood whilehe sleeps.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Honey, you need to have consent for that.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I mean, I think it'd be a pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Consent is very important.
These days, you need to haveconsent.
It's very important.
Consent is important.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Make sure you throw every piece of my hair particles
in your house away, Stacey Iain't cloning you, Anna.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
You ain't got to worry about it.
It's all my hair and the cat'shair, my hair's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
We're going to end up with a full metal.
You're going to think you'recloning your brother.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You're going to have it pop out and it's going to be
me.
You got the hair mixed up.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
What's going to Stacy , and it's going to come out
looking like the FullmetalAlchemist Brotherhood dog girl.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I was thinking more, hermione.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
No, I'm picturing this thing to be a cat with long
red hair.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's why cloning humans is unethical.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
On that note, that has been an episode of Three
Geeks Chatting.
I've been Nicholas.
You've Chatting, I've beenNicholas.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
You've been Nicholas.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I've been Nicholas.
What are you now?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I'm a clone, his clone brother came in and was
talking to us.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, you do look like your brother, that's why he
knows so much.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I'm a lot fatter than my brother.
I'm a brother if you put onlike another 200 pounds.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Your brother's shorter than you.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
By like a couple inches, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
You guys act alike.
You guys could be clones.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We sound alike too.
I've been editing thesepodcasts on my YouTube channel
and we don't sound quite a bitalike.
Maybe I'm just a clone of mybrother.
You're probably a clone of yourbrother.
I was just clones for mybrother.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Because there's times you both do something and I'm
like yeah what His wife has saidthe same thing.
Yeah, we've talked, about it.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I'm sure you guys have Yep.
Anyways, guys, thank you somuch for listening.
As always, check us out on3GeeksChatting, on TikTok, and
you guys want to plug your stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
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it's the same as TikTok I haveno content yet, and I'm
thePurpleNerd21, and it's thesame as TikTok.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I have no content yet .
I'm currently streaming on.
I'm not streaming.
I am on TikTok and I'mtheAwkwardCoop1.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I am 2geeksgaming on all social medias and I stream
on Twitch and I make TikTokvideos and YouTube videos.
All the other social medias I'mnot really active on, but I
have them, so you know.
Do with that information as youwill.
Anyways, guys, thank you forlistening.
I hope you guys have a greatmorning, evening, afternoon,
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night, day, whatever time it isyou're listening to this and
we'll see you guys in the nextone.
Bye.
technically, I don't even have to do that anymore now
I'm just doing it for fun.
What's up everybody?
Three geeks chatting here.
I'm nicholas I'm stacy.
I'm hannah and we have a veryinteresting episode for you
today cloning.
Got a question for you guys howclose are twins to being clones
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?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm assuming you know the answer, so why don't you
just tell us, Nick?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Because I want to hear what your guess is.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I would say probably pretty close.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I mean they're almost identical.
Their genetics are identical,it's just they might have
different things, like there'smirror twins which are one's
left-handed and one'sright-handed, which I do know a
set of those.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I didn't even know those existed, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah they're called mirror twins.
That's kind of cool.
Then you have fraternal twins,which is, you know, one can be
male and female, I know a set ofthose.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I know some of those.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I know some of those they have identical twins which
obviously is identical and Idon't know.
They can have a little bit of adifference, because I knew a
set of twins and the way youtold them apart was one had a
beauty mark.
So I'm not entirely sure.
I think that was technicallyidentical but I'm not entirely
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sure.
Just to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I'm not a twin.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm not a twin.
I'm not entirely sure, just tobe honest with you.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I'm not a twin.
I'm not a twin.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm not a twin either .
No, those are twins.
Um, identical twins are almostthe same thing as clones, as
they share the same genes.
So what is cloning?
Do you guys know much aboutclones?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Just what I learned from Attack of the Clones.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
They are genetically modified.
Well, those were to grow faster.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Genetically modified to grow faster.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's what those were.
On the Star Wars thing Normaltwins don't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm not talking about twins I'm what those were on
the Star Wars thing Normal twinsdon't do that I'm not talking
about twins.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm talking about clones.
Clones, yeah, I don't know.
Do they?
Do they actually do that forthings?
I know there's people that havetheir pets cloned, but I don't
know if they'd have the sameexact personality.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
They probably wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I think that would go under the nurture versus nature
, because those play a hugefactor.
So even then clones would bedifferent.
So clones are made from DNA ofliving creatures and they're
inserted into carriers likebacteria or yeast.
So this is essentially howclones are created.
Um, but we're going to continuewith.
(02:48):
Cloning is done two ways embryotwinning, where the egg is
split and reinserted into themother, or somatic cell.
Nuclear transfer, which is abig word that I'm really glad I
typed up and didn't rememberbecause I completely forgot that
that was a word.
It's taking the DNA of ananimal and sticking it into an
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egg, making an embryo and thenputting it back into the female.
So these are the two wayscloning is done.
From my research, these comefrom.
National Geographic is where Ifound all my information from.
To cite my sources here now Iwill tell you this a lot of my
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source is National Geographic.
But to make this even more funis I found some sketchy sources
about stories that I had heardin high school that actually
made me want to do this episode,because I went and found
articles that discussed thesescientists that a lot of people
(03:57):
have tried to debunk.
But there's not a lot ofinformation, and we're going to
get to that later in the episodebecause I'm really excited for
that one.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
We're not getting into that puppy episode from
that anime, are we?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, so anyways.
The first one's about puttingdogs and humans together.
No, we're not, that's splicing.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh, that's splicing.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And that's a completely different episode
that we will get into later onwhen I pick another topic.
That's like three topics away,though, because I already have
my next topic and it's notsplicing.
Here's another question for youguys Do you guys know what the
first animal cloned was?
(04:45):
I want a sheep, a sheep and no.
So this was back in 1996, whichfeels weird because this
cloning is older than I am,which means I could be a clone
(05:06):
theoretically.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
You're not.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I know I'm not, although I look identical to my
grandfather.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
My dad looks identical to his grandfather.
That's called genetics honey.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, I know, but that is what cloning is.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's playing with genetics 1996 was when this
happened.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, so we're going back to 1996.
Hannah, you weren't born yet.
I was a year away from beingborn.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I was nine.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And you were nine.
The first animal to be clonedwas 1996.
And it was a sheep named Dolly.
That's the sheep, Dolly thesheep, Dolly.
That's the sheep Dolly thesheep.
Since then they have clonedcows, cats, deer horses and
rabbits.
However, due to ethical reasons, they have not cloned humans.
(05:57):
So people believe, Plus theamount of failures it takes for
them to properly clone DollyDolly went through a whole bunch
of failures.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It takes for them to properly clone dolly dolly went
through a whole bunch offailures the reprogramming
process that cells seem to gothrough during cloning is not
perfect, and the embryosproduced by nuclear transfer
often show abnormal development.
Making clone mammals was highlyinefficient.
In 1996, dolllly was the onlylamb that survived to adulthood
(06:29):
from 277 attempts.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, so Dolly the sheep was the first out of 277
failed clones.
What do you guys think cloningcould branch off into?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
order 66 for cloning?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I don't know what.
Do you guys think cloning couldactually branch off into the
concept of taking these genesand reproducing them into the
same uh, in this case the samesheep?
Do you guys think that ifcloning was successful I mean,
(07:17):
we're looking at a 28-year-oldproject Do you guys think they
still clone?
Do you guys think they'vecloned humans?
I mean, I really want to knowyour guys' thoughts on this.
I don't think they would clonehumans?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You do not think they still clone?
Do you guys think they'vecloned humans?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I mean, I really want to know your guys' thoughts on
this.
I don't think they would clonehumans.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You do not think they would clone humans, not until,
like you said, they wouldn't getperfect because of ethical
reasons.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I don't think scientists care about ethical
reasons.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I mean, there's probably evil scientists out
there.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I don't know what are your thoughts, anna, and I want
to hear your thoughts we watchgeek movies.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
There's evil scientists, you know I would
think, maybe over time and who'sto say that someone's not tried
and just haven't failed toclone somebody?
Could there be someone clonedright now?
I don know, but I could seesomeone maybe trying over time.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I am so glad you brought that up, hannah, because
let me tell you Straight asnotes no.
Let me tell you about Clonade,clonade, clonade From the
Bahamas.
Gosh, I thought that guy fromthe Kool-Aid commercials
(08:25):
Claw-nade From the Bahamas.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Gosh, I thought that guy from the Kool-Aid
commercials was going to comeout, so December 27th 2002,
claw-nade moved to the Bahamaswhere he cloned the first baby.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
The Bahamas where he cloned the first baby.
Now, this is where my notes arenot from the most credible
sources.
I'm gonna tell you this rightnow.
However, I have seen multiplearticles about this guy since
high school and he has claimedto have started cloning to clone
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the first baby, and he namedthis baby Eve Kid.
You not?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
It's a girl.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
By 2004, he claimed to have cloned 14 humans.
This man has a website stillthat is severely outdated, but I
googled his website.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Is it from the movie what Happened on Monday?
Have you heard of that movie?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I've not heard of that movie.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's like people are named Monday, tuesday, wednesday
, thursday, friday, saturday and, I think, sunday and that
person can only go out that day.
Oh, and then something happensthe Monday and she goes missing.
But the people are identical.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I've seen that.
Yeah, they're all twins.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
It's called what Happened to Monday.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, because they're only allowed to have so many
children.
I think it's a Chinese film orsomething.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I don't know, I've not watched it.
I've not watched it.
I've almost watched it.
I was just right into it.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh no, I've got to go look that up after the podcast.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I mean, it's a fictional movie, but you know.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
All the people are identical and only Monday can go
out on Monday and Tuesday cango out on Tuesday.
But nobody knows that.
I've seen someone describe thatmovie.
I've never heard of the movie.
Now he's claimed to have cloned14 humans.
However, these are disbelieveddue to the fact that he keeps
the babies and their familiesprivate and so no one knows who
these kids are.
And I did some math here In2002, he cloned one human named
(10:47):
Eve.
2004 he cloned 14 kids, so heclaims by 2024 at that rate, he
would have 154 cloned humans onaverage now.
And the question is where areall these kids?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Well, on a private island.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Someone In the.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Bahamas.
They won the lottery.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Someone came out and claimed to be one of the cloned
children, and it is a famousrapper who, here, I guess I've
never heard of him, but he is amore famous rapper named Kid Boo
, who came out and said he wascloned, but most tossed it out
(11:45):
as a public stunt.
With that said, his website isstill active.
You can find it.
Uh, he does more than justcloning children, but that is
something you can find on thewebsite.
Um, it is believed that he'snot the only one to have cloned
(12:06):
humans there.
There are other scientists whohave come out and, uh, claim to
have cloned children.
Um, one of my favorite storiesthat I heard was a couple um in
one of the european nations whocame out and cloned a child and
got so much hate from it that,um, the kids picked up, or the
(12:30):
scientists picked up, the kidand they left, and no one knows
what happened to them.
With that said, though, thereare actual accounts of cloning
and humans who have apparentlybeen cloned so far, we have been
told.
Well, what do you guys thinkabout this?
(12:51):
I mean, what do you guys thinkabout this?
I mean, what do you guys thinkabout that?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I think it's kind of got a death stranding thing
going down here or something.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
A death stranding thing going down.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
The babies.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah, we're going to use the clone to children for
energy.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
The baby bottle thing .
Yeah, baby bottle pops, babybottle pops, baby bottle pops,
and we're canceled, lined up onthe wall like on the video game,
and they're tubes that you putthem on to re-energize them.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, uh, the the thing is like
people still clone animals, likeanimals get cloned all the time
.
I mean mean there's really Ithink it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I mean it is strange, but I feel like I've
seen someone, and they had theircat cloned.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I don't really want a clone of me running around.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I don't need no more than me.
I don't even like myself now.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I don't want a clone of myself.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean I can see people doing it to get a pet
back, but I mean just just goadopt a new one, uh well, I'll
adopt one.
There's honestly animals thatneed there's.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
There's no regulation for eating cloned animals
either.
You can, you, you can eatcloned animals, not like cloned
pets.
I'm not saying like, yeah,we're going to cook up some cats
, but what I'm saying is andwe're definitely canceled what
(14:24):
I'm saying is that if they clonechickens and cows and all that,
they can theoreticallyslaughter them and sell the meat
.
I mean it is.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
But would that drive up the price of meat or would
that lower it?
Because I mean all the all thetrials they have to do.
That would drive up the price.
Then you got the people whowant the organic stuff with
another chemicals and stuff inthere.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Then you're going to have to not only look for
organic, for natural chickenswell, here, here's the thing,
though, um, by regulation, uh,they don't have to say it's a
cloned animal.
Yeah, I remember reading awhole thing, america has a lot
more stuff than you know.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Europe bans a lot more ingredients than america,
so I'm just saying they probablywon't tell us, but they'd have
to tell them.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I mean technically not.
If you think about it, it'sjust another animal that's been
made.
I mean because they'rerecreating it and putting it
back, so it goes through thesame birthing process and all
that.
It's just identical to whatever.
It's just identical to whateverit's created from.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I think it would still drive up the prices.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I honestly don't know .
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Because you've got to do an extra step rather than
just, you know, having animals.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It is believed that we are currently eating cloned
animals.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
You're talking about that in a few minutes.
Is that, when we get foodpoisoning?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
that's probably why we don't get food poisoning.
We probably get food poisoningfrom actual animals.
Just be honest here.
But it is believed that we eatcloned animals right now, that
we eat cloned animals, and theseare all conspiracy theories,
don't get me wrong.
I'm not telling you if Ibelieve it or not.
I'm just saying these are allconspiracy theories.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm not telling you if Ibelieve it or not.
I'm just saying these arefascinating concepts or the
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topic in my opinion, because,but even if we got into cloning
humans which, in my opinion, inless regulated uh countries
where they are able toexperiment on wider range of
things legally, I truly believethey probably have cloned
(16:38):
multiple humans.
I mean, yeah, I mean america isvery regulated when it comes to
our experiments, but othercountries aren't.
Other countries aren't.
Those other countries, you cando these crazy testing and not
(16:58):
get in trouble.
I mean, I think 27 years sincewe cloned the first, or 28 years
since we cloned the first sheep, I highly doubt that no one's
cloned an actual human, even ifI mean I just there's.
It would baffle me more to tellme that we have not tested
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human cloning I think there'sprobably been more cloning than
we know of I think there's beena lot more cloning than we know
of especially, especially ofanimals.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I can't vouch for humans, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I will say recently, harvard lost scientists because
they were paid to go to adifferent country and I'm not
going to name the country.
It's nothing like that countryand nothing like that.
(17:55):
They were paid to defect fromAmerica and go to this country
so they could finishexperimenting on things that
America would not regulate, thatthey could do human trials in
this other country versus humantrials in America.
And so Harvard actually had anincident where a lot of their
students defected, or a lot oftheir scientists that they gave
(18:18):
grants to defected and went overto another country to do these
human trials.
I mean it's we have anothercountry who's doing these human
trials.
Keep that in mind.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
That's how you tell us what goes on that we don't
know about.
Yeah, didn't the?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
government.
Just tell us that we havealiens.
They're real.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, and no one cared, because they were more
worried about their rent thanthey were about the actual
aliens.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Like aliens from space is what they told us.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
So really is anyone going to bat an eye if clones
start?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
popping up, or is it just actual clones and they put
it off as aliens?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Okay, so I'm not going to touch base on this
episode of what I'm what I'mgonna say, but I will say I have
.
There are theories andconspiracies, uh, that are going
to be a really fun episode.
That is like four episodes.
That's like my when I do myfourth episode moment.
(19:25):
When I get to my fourth topic,we we're going to be discussing
multi-human outer or Kegels.
Do what when I get to my fourthtopic?
So, like three topics away fromthis one, we'll be discussing
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humans outside of the plane, ofwhere we know of, outside of the
planet we know of, because Igot, I have some wild episodes
planned and one of them involveshumans that are not, that we
have never met before, that liveoutside of our realm of reality
(20:15):
, I guess is what I'm going tosay.
So we'll be coming back to thatepisode.
And then we have, I know, andthen I do have episodes planned
for aliens later on, but nothingin the near future.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Well, I'm just saying we didn't bat an eyelash at
aliens.
Really, are we going to batthat much of an eyelash at
clones, unless some weird stuffjust happens?
You drank your little spicything there, didn't you?
All the spice went down to thebottom.
Yeah, that thing was nasty.
I didn't you?
All the spice went down to thebottom.
Yeah, that thing was nasty.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I didn't like it.
What is this?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's tea, that's my tea Strawberry tea.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Oh, it tastes really good Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It has a little stevia in it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
We did not bat an eye when it came to aliens, but I
think everyone kind of alreadyknew.
No one walked around.
Even the biggest skeptics werelike there's probably something
out there.
I mean I don't, it didn'tsurprise me, but I believe
(21:32):
everything.
I mean everything.
We had a cat outside our houseand I'm pretty sure it was a
skinwalker.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And that's how we disappear.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I'm just saying, and that's not the only time.
I pulled into my driveway andI've heard screams nearby out in
the middle of areas thatthere's just no one around.
There's no one there and I'vejust heard screams and then I've
(22:08):
seen figures off in thedistance.
Either I'm crazy which is ahighly possibility, not going to
mark that one out or recentlywe've been populated with
skinwalkers.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
You're not supposed to talk about them.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
You're not supposed to say their name because it
draws them.
And ever since I started sayingskinwalkers, weird things have
been happening and we just hearda creak in this house.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The house creaks all the time.
Yeah, our house is haunted,that might have been my back too
.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I just stretched what is a skinwalker.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
A skinwalker.
So skinwalkers are creatures.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
What if they clone a skinwalker?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
What if they make?
What if skinwalkers werecreated by malfunction science?
Well, they've been around forso long.
Huh, not really good.
So skinwalkers, what askinwalker is hannah?
It is believed to have been, atone point, a shaman otherwise
(23:11):
known.
They're not witches, but interms of what we're talking
about, they're sort of anoff-branch of a witch.
So shamans are very natural,they're very.
They do a lot of like how do Iput it?
Herbs and medicine, and Like aD&D druid.
(23:34):
Yeah, like a D&D druid.
They're very wilderness andit's believed a skinwalker was
once human, once a human shaman,who transforms into these
creatures now, and the only wayto really kill one is you have
(24:00):
to know its actual name.
So if they don't tell you theirname, then you can't really
stop one.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
So you need a phone book and you just start.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
But if they're a shaman?
If they're, Shamans are veryold belief too.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So people think these exist.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, I mean some people there are.
So there are beliefs.
They're not really common thisway where we live, not.
So you know, you got like thechupacabra right.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, you ever hear of a wendigo.
That's what I think this wholetime I'm trying to think of that
name.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So you ever hear.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
You've heard of a wendigo right it sounds familiar
, but I don't know if I can tellyou exactly it's in a video
game um, they're.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
It got popular in a video game.
Uh, until Dawn was wherethey're from.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That was the one video game.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
They live in woods and the wilderness and a lot of
times they're depicted as deer.
They have antlers and stufflike that.
But they're big humanoidcreatures and until Dawn I don't
know how accurate this is tothe actual legend of Wendigos.
(25:27):
Until Dawn showed them ascannibals.
They were humans who gottrapped in a mine and they were
eating other humans to surviveand they transformed into these
creatures.
I don't know how accurate thisis to the actual lore behind
real life Wendigos.
Quotations on real lifeSkinwalkers are a lot of times
(25:54):
confused for Wendigos,skinwalkers and Wendigos are
very popular out in theAppalachian Mountains.
Skinwalkers and Wendigos arevery popular out in the
Appalachian Mountains,skinwalkers specifically.
I don't know the full detail ofwhere Wendigos are really known
in the United States.
Some people do believe in them,a lot of people.
(26:20):
Surprisingly, if you ever lookup on TikTok Appalachian
Mountains, you see a lot ofweird stuff.
The Appalachian Mountains is avery weird place, regardless of
if you believe in thesecreatures or not.
The Appalachian Mountain.
There's a lot of people outthere who do these end of night
(26:44):
rituals where they block offtheir windows, they make sure
everything's closed, they dimtheir lights so they don't draw
any unwanted attention Becauseto them skinwalkers, stuff like
that, are a real thing, it is inthe.
I mean it's to them it's veryreal.
(27:06):
You got Skinwalker Ranch, whichis they've had so many
documentaries about this place.
I mean it's insane and I meanwe've gone off topic from
cloning.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
But so we're getting too podcast out of this one.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Do what?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Sounds a little creepy.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
It is, but and here's where it's getting, here's to
turn it back around with cloning.
Is cloning's no different thana lot of, a lot of this weird,
uh, weird concepts?
I mean, we, we have unexplainedum, creatures like skinwalkers
(27:48):
and wendigos, um, but then yougot concepts like cloning.
I mean clonings.
You could create thesecreatures with genetic
modification and all you'redoing with cloning is you're
moving genes.
I mean, scientists have alreadystarted gene editing.
(28:10):
You can edit genes.
That's part of splicing.
Splicing is literally takingDNA from one creature, combining
it with DNA from anothercreature, taking DNA from one
creature combining it with DNAfrom another creature.
There was a whole documentaryon TV when I was a kid about
them splicing eggs from chickensand recreating dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
We have several movies about why that is a very
bad idea.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Exactly.
But I mean in all honesty, youdo have these weird phenomenons
like that.
I mean so I don't know if I.
I will say I don't know if Ibelieve in skinwalkers and
Wendigos.
I don't know if cloning humanshave actually happened to me.
(28:57):
I like to imagine they have Tome.
I like to imagine they have.
Personally, I like to live onthat side of the fantasy line
versus life is kind of boringand normal.
Maybe that's just my opinion.
That's how I personally view it.
It's more fun to believe for me.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Where's my dragon?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Don't even get me started on dragons.
Where are my dragons Forcloning stuff?
Where's my dragon?
Don't even get me started ondragons.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Where are my dragons For cloning stuff?
Where's my dragons?
I have cats.
I need some dragons.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Anna looks like she wants to say something and if I
get on the dragon topic, we'regoing to skier bad.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
We have already skier , bad we're coming back to that
we skier bad every time.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I was just going to say that I'm sure cloning of
humans has definitely been tried.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Now whether they were successful or not who knows.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
So what are you guys' opinions on cloning, though?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I am not an expert, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I would not do it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
No, I'd clone.
You just said at the beginningthat you don't even like
yourself.
You don't want another one.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
No, I don't want one of me.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So who would you clone?
Who would you clone?
What would you clone?
Probably my brother Clone.
I don't think he'd want thateither.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I mean he's older.
So like by the time he reached,by the time the clone became,
my brother's age, my brotherwould be.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Have you talked to your brother about this?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Cloning my brother.
Yes, I'm going to just surprisehim.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I'm pretty sure you got a consent.
There's the thing calledconsent Christmas present.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Christmas present what are?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
you going to do?
Walk up to him and just go, heybro Merry, you know, Happy
Hanukkah.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Here's you as an infant.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I'm sure he would absolutely love that to add to
his other two children.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I think his wife would be more upset than anyone.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Like what I said.
What are you going to do?
Walk up to him and just yankhis hair out.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
You know what I might ?
I'll just draw some blood whilehe sleeps.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Honey, you need to have consent for that.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I mean, I think it'd be a pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Consent is very important.
These days, you need to haveconsent.
It's very important.
Consent is important.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Make sure you throw every piece of my hair particles
in your house away, Stacey Iain't cloning you, Anna.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
You ain't got to worry about it.
It's all my hair and the cat'shair, my hair's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
We're going to end up with a full metal.
You're going to think you'recloning your brother.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You're going to have it pop out and it's going to be
me.
You got the hair mixed up.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
What's going to Stacy , and it's going to come out
looking like the FullmetalAlchemist Brotherhood dog girl.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I was thinking more, hermione.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
No, I'm picturing this thing to be a cat with long
red hair.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
That's why cloning humans is unethical.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
On that note, that has been an episode of Three
Geeks Chatting.
I've been Nicholas.
You've Chatting, I've beenNicholas.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
You've been Nicholas.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I've been Nicholas.
What are you now?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I'm a clone, his clone brother came in and was
talking to us.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, you do look like your brother, that's why he
knows so much.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I'm a lot fatter than my brother.
I'm a brother if you put onlike another 200 pounds.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Your brother's shorter than you.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
By like a couple inches, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
You guys act alike.
You guys could be clones.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
We sound alike too.
I've been editing thesepodcasts on my YouTube channel
and we don't sound quite a bitalike.
Maybe I'm just a clone of mybrother.
You're probably a clone of yourbrother.
I was just clones for mybrother.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Because there's times you both do something and I'm
like yeah what His wife has saidthe same thing.
Yeah, we've talked, about it.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I'm sure you guys have Yep.
Anyways, guys, thank you somuch for listening.
As always, check us out on3GeeksChatting, on TikTok, and
you guys want to plug your stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I stream on Twitch and I'm ThePurpleNerd21, and
it's the same as TikTok I haveno content yet, and I'm
thePurpleNerd21, and it's thesame as TikTok.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I have no content yet .
I'm currently streaming on.
I'm not streaming.
I am on TikTok and I'mtheAwkwardCoop1.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I am 2geeksgaming on all social medias and I stream
on Twitch and I make TikTokvideos and YouTube videos.
All the other social medias I'mnot really active on, but I
have them, so you know.
Do with that information as youwill.
Anyways, guys, thank you forlistening.
I hope you guys have a greatmorning, evening, afternoon,
(33:58):
night, day, whatever time it isyou're listening to this and
we'll see you guys in the nextone.
Bye.
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