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June 12, 2025 28 mins

In this episode of the Q-MindBody podcast, Darren Main sits down with renowned therapist and author Dr. Joe Kort to explore a lesser-known but deeply important identity within gay men's sexuality: the side. Drawing on his groundbreaking book Side Guys, Dr. Kort unpacks the myths and misunderstandings surrounding men who don't identify as tops or bottoms—and instead express themselves through non-penetrative forms of intimacy.

Together, Darren and Dr. Kort discuss the emotional toll of "side shaming" and the importance of community support in dismantling internalized stigma. They also explore how sexual preferences evolve, why outer course deserves more recognition, and how embracing one's authentic orientation can lead to deeper self-acceptance and intimacy.

Whether you're new to the term or deeply familiar, this episode offers a compassionate and eye-opening look into the complexity, beauty, and fluidity of gay men's sexual expression.


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The Gay Men’s Sangha 

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