Jumanji - Mid 80s: Rolling the Dice on the Robin Williams' Family Adventure

What if Jumanji was recast in the Mid 80s?

Ever wondered how the enchanting world of 'Jumanji' would spark to life with an '80s twist? Nick and Cass journey through the possibilities of who might have walked the jungles and braved the stampedes if this classic had hit the screens a decade earlier. Our episode teems with the giddy excitement of reimagining the film during the golden age of adventure flicks, considering stars for the role originally played by the immortalized Robin Williams. 

This trip down memory lane isn't just about nostalgia; it's about understanding the dual appeal of family movies. We unravel the layers of 'Jumanji,' examining how the film scares us in one breath and comforts with hearty laughter in the next. Our childhood fears stand side by side with a mature reflection on the emotional depth of the characters, especially through the lens of adulthood. 

Strap in for a hearty discussion that not only pays homage to the genius of Robin Williams, but also casts a curious eye towards the what-ifs of film history. From the surprisingly zoo-less filming location to potential shifts in special effects, we've left no stone unturned. Join us for a creative romp through the world of 'Jumanji,' as we celebrate the timeless blend of horror, humor, and heart that continues to captivate audiences across generations.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
In the jungle.
You must wait until the diceread five or eight.
I've seen things you've onlyseen in your nightmares, things
you can't even see.
I'm gonna lie and suck at you.

(00:27):
You lost wood, jumanji.
Welcome to Quantum Recast.
I'm your host for today'smini-sode, nick, and with me
back from a few months ago, Iguess it's been.
How are you, cass?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm good, I know you guys.
Finally let me back from a fewmonths ago, I guess it's been.
How are you, cass?
I'm good, I know you guys.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Finally let me back on well, you know, we had to.
We had to, uh, make you gothrough the trials and the
questionnaire, and then you know, serve your time.
But you're back.
Finally, you know, like notthat you did anything wrong, but
we just felt like, as theyoungest member of the group,
there was some initiation thathadn't occurred yet, and so so
here you are now.
So congrats, you made it, youdid you did all the things.
She's like I didn't do anything, I just hung out at home.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Just waiting.
Just in the corner it's raining.
It's all sad, just waiting formy time to shine.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Anyway, if you clicked on this episode, it is a
mini-show but you probablyclicked on it because it says
Jumanji and it says Jumanji inthe mid-80s, jumanji and it says
Jumanji in the mid 80s.
That is not a typo, that is nota mistake.
That's what we do on thispodcast.
We take your favorite movies orsome cult classics and things
and we move them to a differentspace and time, forwards,
backwards, in between everywhere.
So today we are taking theRobin Williams, not the Dwayne
Johnson version, to be clear,the 1995 version with Robin

(01:39):
Williams, back to the mid 80sfor a mid 80s cast.
Cass and I will each present acast.
There's no director in theseminisodes, so we're just talking
and discussing and chatting itup.
Just a little bite-sized pieceof Quantum Recast for you, yep.
So, cass, other than how you'vebeen, are you excited to jump
into this?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I am.
I love this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
So you watched it as a kid I'm assuming growing up as
well no-transcript.

(02:33):
There would just be a moviethat would show up and she'd be
like I got this and we wouldwatch it, which is strange
because, like there was, I don'tknow if she watched it before
letting us watch it because youknow, it's a little more, a
little more controlling of likewhat type of movies we were
allowed to watch.
So but anyway, I think this wasone that was like oh, the
trailer's out, it's robinwilliams.
Yeah, we'll get it when it's onvhs, as I was super hyped to
get like the jacket that wasback in the plastic jackets.

(02:54):
Like the disney movie's gonnalet out they have that version
of it.
But yeah, this was definitelyone favorite growing up and it's
definitely was worth a rewatch.
We'll get into that here in asecond, but first I want to give
the quick rundown of the movieJumanji.
It was released on December 15th1995, a holiday movie release
directed by Joe Johnston.
If you don't know who JoeJohnston is, he's just he's kind

(03:15):
of like this I would call himan underrated director.
He made the first CaptainAmerica.
That's the most recent thingProbably.
He helped out on things likeRaiders of the Lost Ark.
But his other directing creditis probably the Rocketeer,
october Sky Hidalgo, jurassicPark 3 that some people love or
hate, depending on who you ask.
So he's and the page master forall you 90s kids and and honey,
I shrunk the kid in 89, so he'skind of I would say he has a

(03:36):
pretty decent track record there.
Yeah, nothing that's gonna likebe like.
Oh, this is the top.
You know, 25 movies of all time, but they're all solid movies
In my opinion.
You know I have some friendsthat are going to be mad at me
for acting like.
Jurassic Park three is a goodmovie.
It is a good movie.
It's okay to like it, I promise.
But uh, written by JonathanHensley, jim strain, greg Taylor
and Chris van Allsburg, chrisvan children's picture book.

(04:01):
Did you read this growing upgas?
I did not okay, I didn't either.
I was never.
I was aware it was a book, butI never, uh, actually read it we
were also not born in 81 nick.
This is true, you could stillget it at the library like that.
That might have been like if Ihad been anticipating the
jumanji movie I might have, andI'd seen it in the library, I
might have checked it out Idon't know or it's or it's
sequels athura, or it'sspiritual sequel to be clear yes

(04:22):
, yes um, but according to theauthor, the word Jumanji is Zulu
for many effects, which alludesto the exciting consequences of
the game.
As mentioned in the film.
Um, it wasn't filmed too faraway from UCAS in New Hampshire.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Uh, one of the few one of the few US states without
a zoo, it turns out yeah, Inoticed that and then I
questioned if Delaware had a zoofor for some time I was like
wait.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Does Delaware have a zoo?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
From what I looked up , yeah, apparently so.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Well, there's a zoo in Delaware, there's not one in
New Hampshire.
Now you know if you're ever inthat area, East Coast area just
stay away from Delaware.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
One of our New Hampshire listeners are like oh
yeah, we don't have a zoo.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
They're like like dang, he's right, all the wasted
years, a budget of 65 million,a box office run of 262.8
million.
So it did well, did well foritself.
Um, it's legacy, basically itcame out, it came and went, and
then zathura was this movie thatkind of came out.
I don't even know if you wouldcall I guess it has to because
they were like, well, let's justmake the sequel book and then
that one.
I don't know if it was assuccessful, but then have you

(05:27):
seen it?
I have seen it.
Yes, I thought the movie wasdecent, but I don't think it
quite was on the Jumanji levelper se.
But then you got Jumanji,welcome to the Jungle.
And Jumanji, the Next Level,where they turn the board game
into a video game because it'sthe future, and Dwayne and Kevin
Hart, jack and the girl fromGuardians of the Galaxy whose
name escapes me, suddenly, karenGillan Thank you, karen Gillan

(05:48):
gets sucked into the video game.
So that's its legacy is that itsuddenly became a franchise
after not really being afranchise.
But I think they're allenjoyable in their own way.
I would say for sure, oh,definitely.
You can't go into Jumanji, thenew Jumanjis, and be like, well,
this isn't like the new one atthe old one at all.
It's like well, robin williamsisn't there.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
No, no crap well, yeah, and at least like the,
even those future movies arestill funny.
It still kind of has like theadventure and the scare because
you're gonna, you're thinkingthat they're gonna die.
They have lives like, liketattooed like that was that was.
I think they did a good jobwith it, making it modern like
they did it wasn't.
It wasn't too, too bad.
My parents, to this day, stillquote the new movies around the

(06:26):
house like it was a surprisinglygood sequel, like the new first
one.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Um, I remember me and taryn, friend of the show, guy
behind the scenes sometimes uh,we went to watch it.
We were both very surprised.
We were like, oh, this wasactually funny yeah, because it
looked like it was gonna be hotgarbage, like a lot of movies
are.
I just separate the two.
I don't really consider it tobe really part of the original
one, I just consider it to be areboot.
Basically, I know there'spieces where they're like oh,
alan was here in the jungle, butit's very.

(06:52):
It's not like it's really builtinto the story, it's just kind
of like a nod more so Well, Imean I would.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
No, I would still consider it a sequel turned into
a video game, because nobodyplays video, or sorry nobody
plays board games and stuffanymore, so it's like it's not
in your face yourself.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Excuse me, I'm you, gen zers, and your and your
digital games and your lack ofpractical analog stuff no, no,
no.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I like a good board game.
I just don't have friends.
There's a difference butfriends, they're just not near
you to play physical board gamesyou don't, you don't, you don't
gotta to keep like, just am Idoing it on too much?
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well, speaking of board games, though I
acknowledge that they aresequels, but me personally, I'm
just sitting there, I'm like Idon't really put I don't when I
plan a Jumanji watch through.
If I was to I wouldn't really Idon't plan those.
I don't say I'm going to watchthe first one and then the other
two, Like I would just watchJumanji probably.
Yeah.
But speaking of board games,did you own the board game?

(07:48):
Because when this came out,they actually made a board game
of it, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I did.
I don't remember like why wehad the board game in our house,
but we definitely did and therewas just times that I would
play with like my cousins andstuff and it was cool.
Like obviously it was cool.
Like obviously it's not goingto be the exact sort of board
game where the pieces are justgoing to stick onto the board,
but right, yeah it still had,like the jumanji vibe where it
was just still like, oh, this isgoing to happen and this is
going to happen.
So, like you would end up likelosing a turn or going to the

(08:15):
next person or going again.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
So you mean the animals didn't come out of the
game?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
no, that's disappointing right, I wanted to
return it well, there there's.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
There is like a you know walmart target version that
you can get for like 20 or 30bucks.
But then there's, like there'ssome very detailed ones that are
on you can see on amazon or anebay where somebody actually
made it out of wood and likemade it look like the game you
know.
So that's definitely like amillennial's, like you know wet
dream of like oh, if I couldjust find this, if I could just
have this, I would be wholeagain, kind of thing.
But it's very cool to like see,like when, when fans will

(08:46):
replicate something like thatand make it very like, accurate
to the actual movie.
Because sometimes when you buylike the game now, you're like,
well, it's kind of plastic andI'm not super into that, but as
a kid you're like, oh my gosh,this is awesome yeah so.
So there's that.
You know it's the board game.
It did well.
Um, we'll run through someuseless critic stats real quick
for you.
Obviously, we both enjoyed themovie, but we want to see what

(09:07):
people in the 90s that I guessgo watch movies for a profession
wanted to say about it.
The IMDb score is a 7.1 out of10.
Rotten Tomatoes is a 63%Letterboxd.
We got a 3.6 out of 5.
That's respectable, I would say.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
And you and I.
I gave it a four out of five onlitterbox and you gave it a 4.5
out of five.
Pretty strong cast, prettystrong ranking there okay
nostalgia nostalgia.
This you're just so you're said.
You're letting the nostalgiagive it that extra little, extra
oomph into your extra half yeahgotcha, gotcha, okay.
Well, we've also got ebert score.
Are you ready for this cast?
I'm ready.
Ebert gave it a 1.5 out of 4.

(09:45):
This man doesn't like fun.
That's what I'm saying.
He likes the wrong kind of fun.
I want to know what upset himabout this.
What's his opening line?
It's always.
Jumanji is being promoted as ajolly holiday season
entertainment, with ads thatshow Robin Williams with a
twinkle in his eye.
The movie itself is likely tosend younger children fleeing
from the theater or hiding intheir parents arms.
Those who do sit all the waythrough are likely to toss and

(10:06):
turn with nightmares inspired byits frightening images.
So he's just basicallylambasting it because it's scary
, as if kids didn't grow upthrough the 80s, tortured and
terrified.
The underlying structure of thefilm seems inspired by
interactive video games or justa board game.
This is a little attempt toconstruct a coherent story.
Instead, the characters faceone threat after another, new
grotesque dangers.
He so, he's just.
It's like those video gameswhere you achieve one level

(10:28):
after another by killing and notgetting killed, the ultimate.
Am I reading the right jumanjihere?
This is 19, yeah, 1995.
Like he's talking about videogames, but that one doesn't come
out for two decades.
This man, is he ahead of histime?
I don't know.
I don't know how to feel aboutthis Cass.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
There's no video about it at all.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Did Jumanji even get a video game back in the day?
Jumanji 95 video game.
I'm just curious, I have towander down this route.
Jumanji 96 video game.
According to the Jumanji Wikifandom, jumanji A Jungle
Adventure Pack is a NorthAmerican exclusive released in
96.
One player.
That seems wrong.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
What was it for?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
It an exclusive, released in 96 one player.
That's seems wrong.
What was it for?
Like it was just a pc game.
Was there not a an actual game?
That's?
That's disappointing, youfigure.
Wait, wait, hold on jumanjivideo game.
We're just ruining this podcastby me just googling stuff do
your homework, nick I know right, well, I didn't think about it
until, like, we talked aboutgames and I'm like, okay, well,
I guess there is is a video.
No, this is the new game.
Get out of here, okay, anyway,moving on, moving on, there's

(11:28):
too much crossover right now.
Yeah, ebert's just not havinghe probably was having one of
his quote-unquote off days andwas just like this is terrifying
for children.
Now, there were moments in themovie where the lion and the
monkeys were kind of freaky, butthen like the mosquito coming
through, like the window and theglass on the top of the car,
like and even like the jungle,like trying to literally eat our

(11:50):
young hero in the movie, likeas it's crawling through the
house, you know, peter, and yeahit's terrifying, but I wasn't
sitting there going like I'mtraumatized by this, you know no
, and I mean I'm a bad examplebecause I like tour growing up
anyway, but I just more mean,like it's just I don't know,
there's nothing scary about it.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Like yeah, like you're kind of on the edge of
your seat like hoping that theydon't get like attacked or
anything, like you're cheeringthem on to like finish this game
.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
But I think I honestly think it's the right
amount of scary Like they usedenough practical effects like
the lions partly practical thealligators or crocodiles,
whichever one it was, thespiders there's enough practical
mixed in with all the CGI ofthe stampede.
On top of that there are stakesthat happen.
He gets sucked into that gamefor 20 years and that's a pretty
crazy sequence in itself.

(12:36):
But then even Peter tries tocheat and slowly gets turned
into a monkey and that's a wholeother psychological scary thing
there are.
Yeah, it does a good job of forbeing a kid's family movie of
creating stakes and potentialdanger without having to like
axe anybody pretty much or chopthem up into little pieces
inside the house.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
So would you agree, okay, that now that you
mentioned that like that kind ofstuff, was a little far like
saying what happened with alan I, I was, I was unfazed by it,
and that's coming from a verysheltered child for me.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Were you was, was it bad for you or are you just now
retrospecting it?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
a little bit like I just feel like I don't know,
even because again that kind ofstuff wouldn't freak me out, but
it's just remembering, like allthe stuff that they said that
happened, like that could havehappened to alan, and I'm like
dang, like that's kind of scaryto think about, like what mr
parish went through being likeoh, everyone thinks I killed my
son.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Like definitely sorry .
It's definitely a thing that Ithink you think about as an
adult.
You're like, oh my gosh, thisthese poor parents like really
had to go looking for their sonand everyone thought that I
murdered him, kind of thing yeahso I think it's one of those.
It's.
It's a movie that does the jobwell enough that the kids are
entertained.
And then there's something forthe parents to think about.
I think too many parents ebertincluded I don't even know if he

(13:48):
has kids but they're soconcerned about like, oh my gosh
, this isn't a kid's movie.
And half the time, like youthink about shrek, you think
about all these movies withinnuendo and sexual jokes and
stuff.
It's like that goes completelyover kids heads, like because
what happens is you watch itlater and you finally get the
joke and you go oh, that's whathe was saying, and then you turn
into the adult.
I can't believe they put thatin a movie.

(14:09):
So it's a vicious cycle.
That's all I'm going to say.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
I mean the parents got to be entertained too when
they watch this kid's movie.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Give them this like one tiny little thing that will
go over kids head, but theparents are like, huh, that is
funny.
So yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I think this movie I think it's the reason it's so
good is because it does have somuch heart to it.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
And I think you really feel that through the
lesson that Robin Williams Allencharacter learns.
Through it, you know like theimportance of family, like not
knowing really what he had.
But it's also there's aevolution of his character from
being brave brave enough tostand up to his dad and just
tell him how he really feels andlike not be afraid to be like,
instead of turning into ashouting match of like I don't
want to go to the school.
Instead he's like hey, I don'treally want to.

(14:49):
I feel like you're just sendingme away, kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Right, and I think that's the fun part about the
ending, where it's like he doesget a happy ending with his
parents Like it.
They were playing the game, soit starts with alan and sarah
and I thought that was likethat's beautiful.
It's not like it's dark, whereoh no, this is the life that
he's stuck with.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
He doesn't get that closure with his parents.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
He doesn't get to live his childhood like I I
think, they did a really goodjob with that, so I still think
that's family friendly, becauseif it wasn't, it would have just
ended that way where yeah, likethe game's over a pg-13 version
of this is the game's over andthen they just have to move on
with their life.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Instead and this was a smart move by the director,
joe johnston was like they'relike, we're gonna make it.
Uh, it's a wonderful life typeending where everything returns
back to normal and yeah and it'sthe good, happy, feel good
ending where they're at home.
It's even at christmas time, soit's like, yeah, this is
clearly a nod to that.
So some questions that came up.
You brought this up before westarted, but so you were asking

(15:44):
why did you think it just chosethe kids?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
so elaborate on that well, it was like when I was
re-watching it yes, in thebeginning with the two kids like
getting rid of the game yeahthey heard.
They heard the drums, they heardit, but they were like no, we
got to get rid of it, we got togo like before something happens
.
But alan later on, of course,like years later, starts hearing
it and he wants it like he goesdown into the pit, which I

(16:08):
still believe is just not safe.
That you just leave that out inthe open, like construction
workers are just like, oh, we'llleave that alone I don't think.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I don't think there's construction workers that work
overnight, though, or just watchthe facility, I think that's
why they have fences so eitherway, I was like that just
doesn't feel super, super safe.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
It's not safe Either way.
Alan heard the drums and I wasjust kind of like in the mindset
of does the board game go tolike broken kids?

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I don't like using the word broken, but it's like
it almost is calling toproblematic, someone that needs
a lesson learned, basicallyBecause I initially had said
like, well, no, it's kind oflike this evil, it's a somewhat
evil like it's.
It's because I initially itsaid like, well, no, it's kind
of like this evil, it's asomewhat evil like thing.
That's like if you open it's,it's don't open the pandora's
box, basically yeah but that's agood point of like.
It's more like it's latching onto someone that needs, like

(16:54):
some something yeah, guidance.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
So it's almost like this best and worst case
scenario, you know because ifyou remember, like when we see
um gosh, why am I drawing ontheir names already?
Uh, judy and peter yeah, whenyou see like them talking to
their aunt they hear the drums,but nora doesn't she doesn't
hear it at all.
Yeah, she's like looking atthem, like what are you guys
looking at?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
right, and they're also troubled kids, so because
they just lost their parents.
You know, peter's not talkingto people except his sister, so
it's just it becomes more oflike a parable or like a
monkey's Paul type of story inthat sense, where it's like
you're learning your lesson byby the when these extreme
situations, kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Okay, I get what you're saying.
Yeah, that the board gameitself chooses not just any
random person, people that needit, and particularly just kids,
because it's a kids movie too,so so, yeah, I think that that's
, that's.
That's definitely fair for sure.
I think I think that's, butthat's the thing is like just
structurally.
It's a plot device.
It's used to like help alan gothrough his journey a, not be

(17:58):
afraid, b be his own person andthen realize kind of the value
of what he has with his familyand stuff, and the same goes for
peter and judy as well right,but I think it's and even future
movies.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I still feel like the kids like in those movies were
called to it when they were liketrying to get through high
school and they all cametogether and learned their own
lessons, like with you know, acouple of them becoming
confident, one going off, likeyou know, the grid not wanting
to be on her phone as much soit's like they all grow, so I
don't know it.
Just it made me wonder whatmade like.

(18:30):
Made the board game go to thekids like they did, like it did
so?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
it chooses.
Sounds like you're about to getsome character development
buddy like no, we're gonna suckyou in a game for 20 years in
this ridiculous jungle.
That that's what we're going todo.
That's how you learn.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
That sucks.
That'll teach them.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh gosh.
Well, we're not taking this toa particular year, we're taking
it to the mid 80s and we willgenerally talk about that as
we're casting.
But before we dive into that,I'm going to ask the general
question how does this moviechange?
Taking it back, almost it back,almost just a decade really,
how do you think it changes?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
The CGI Pretty much.
I would say, yeah, I feel likethat's the main thing, because I
feel like I think the themewould still be there.
I think it would still kind ofalmost be set in the same year.
But I was actually thinkinglike, would it be set in the 80s
, or I think so.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, I mean you just push it back.
You know, because even even theoriginal it's what they're in
1965 or 69, uh, looking up moreinformation, but when?
But it's just a, it's a back tothe future situation, it's just
a jump in time, yeah, really toallow for alan to be gone long
enough that everybody thinks,well, I think he was murdered,

(19:38):
his parents are gone.
You know, like the world haschanged so much 1969.
So, but yeah, so I think youjust move it.
You could take it right back to1969 or just take it to 1959.
You're going to get like afifties kind of vibe in the, in
the prologue and stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
So I think it's just fine, I think, I think it stays
the same.
It's just the cgi is going tobe what's different, right, yeah
, but like what kind of vibewould it give like?
Just because I feel like whenyou do like that kind of like
cgi, is it going to be almostlike that friday or friday 13th
that's not what I meant uh, anightmare on elm street vibe,
like what I.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I just kind of wonder how that cgi would be yeah, I
think I mean just based off ofsome of the special effects and
stuff, it uh, it was originallythe industrial light magic,
which is the people, the starwars people, lucasfilm stuff.
They were the ones who did itfor jumanji, but I think again
yeah, but I think that theywould just lean more on the
puppetry and the animatronicswhich was provided by

(20:32):
amalgamated dynamics, uh, sothat's kind of I think you would
just lean on that or like a JimHenson company and just really
nail all that stuff.
The only thing that I thinkwould be interesting to see is
like, how does the stampede look?
Practically, because that's Ithink that's a point in time,
too, where they're not stillafraid to use elephants and
rhinos and stuff.
I don't know how they make thatwork, but it's definitely like

(20:56):
that scenes.
It's very like Jurassic ParkT-Rex coming with the stuff
falling off the shelf and theytake off running.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
But the funniest thing I thought about that was
the stampede comes and goes butthen it just keeps re.
They're just going down thestreet and they keep people keep
running to like it's a.
I think it's used three timesand I'm just like this is the
most Looney Tunes stuff in alive action movie that I've seen
outside of a Looney Tunes thingmaybe.
Or like Shaolin Monks or, I'msorry, shaolin Soccer or those
movies.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Where it's just like and nobody's making a snarky
comment about it Like there's no, it's just, they're just part
of the world.
It's kind of like when themonkeys find the TVs and they
see the Wizard of Oz playing,like it's it lives inside that
campy world but it finds itrides the balance.
Just enough of like here's somescary, here's some funny,
here's some cheese and here'ssome heart that goes on top of
it.
So I think I think that's the.

(21:43):
The thing that helps that moviestand out is just that it it is
balanced enough like somepeople might sit there go.
No, it's hokey and it's cheesy,it's stupid.
I'm like eh you weren't a kid ofthe 90s, so you're just ebert
complaining that's scary.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
You just don't enjoy fun.
You just don't enjoy fun.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Nobody enjoys fun anymore.
All right, fun can be scary too, like that's why we ride roller
coasters, right?
Right cast is like I've neverread a roller coaster no, I mean
, I mean, I have I was just likeoh yeah, right, um no, oh god.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I had a thought, and now it left, never mind it left
you in the jungle.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
You must wait till the dice read five or eight.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh, I was going to say that, yeah, like scary is
fun, because my dad used toscare me with the Jason mask, so
it was for fun.
It was for fun, though.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
It's fun.
It definitely isn't coming upin your therapy, all right.
Well, we've talked enough, atleast at this point.
I think we'll have some moreconversation as we're casting,
but I think we're ready to diveinto the cast.
Are you ready, cass?

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I am ready.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Okay, so it's a smaller cast, not too many
people, but we've got somehighlights here.
Obviously, we're going to leavethe four players of the game
itself in the top main cast, butwe're going to quickly just
bounce through our 30 seconds orless, which gives us four other
characters, and we are going toactually include a young Alan,
a young Sarah, nora Shepard,their aunt, aunt Nora, and then
Carl Bentley, the shoemakerturned police officer.

(23:06):
After Alan ruins his state ofthe art shoe that he wants to
make for Wilt Chamberlain, itgoes wrong.
But we're going to cast thesefour just very quickly.
We'll have a very briefdiscussion about each, but we're
we're wanting to save time forthe main cast.
So again, uh, just to run thesedown young alan was played by
adam hanbird.
Young sarah was laura bellbundy.
Nora shepherd was baby newearth.
Uh, you might know her fromcheers and uh, oh, my brain

(23:29):
can't work today.
I'm so sorry, uh, but you knowfrom cheers.
Uh, I will look up the otherone.
And then carl bentley, playedby david alan Greer, who's just
great in everything like he's.
He's one of those guys that Ilook at him was like this guy is
hilarious, or like he doesdrama really well too.
So anytime I see him pop up ina movie I'm like I'm so glad
he's here.
Yeah, gosh, they're not listed.
Frazier he was.

(23:50):
She was on Frazier, that's.
That's who baby was in.
So, anyhow, we're gonna do withthat and and cast.
Let's just go one by one.
We won't list all, we won'ttake turns listing each of our
four, just to help not confusethe audience.
So, real quick, give me yourand yours very much sticking to
a mid-80s cast, correct yes okay, so young alan, who do you have
in mind?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
will wheaton will wheaton.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Most people probably know him.
He's the one of the kids onstand by me, correct?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
yes okay, yes, and then beyond that, he did a lot
of like sci-fi, I believe, orsomething of that nature and if
you, if the listeners, are bigbang theory fan, he is in that,
playing as himself okay,interesting, I didn't know he's
playing himself.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I remember seeing him and be like oh, it's will
wheaton.
Yeah, he, he plays himself okay, okay, so so, cas, I decided to
do a little something different.
So I'm kind of flipping it LikeI had this whole grand idea and
I was actually kind of proud ofit of a Kurt Russell Goldie
Hawn Jumanji.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Oh my God, so was I.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
But I shifted to something.
I shifted this to being anEddie Murphy vehicle and that
might be showing my hand alittle early with the Alan
Parrish casting, but I'll talkabout that more when we get to
Alan Allen.
But I decided like, let me justflip this as if it's going to
be an Eddie Murphy kind ofproduction, in the vein of
coming to America and stuff withwhich is a little more action
adventure, cause he, he has thisgreat run, you know, and then

(25:11):
he hits 84, beverly Hills cop,and then 85, he's doing a lot of
music videos and stuff, andthen 86, the golden child, which
really didn't take off, andthat's kind of it's got a murky
ground for him.
It's not his best work.
So I'm gonna just say we throwJumanji there yeah, when did 48
hours come out?
oh, that was, that was yeah, itwas earlier it was, it was
before 88.
Uh, 48 hours was actually in 19.

(25:31):
Well, that's a lot, that's not.
That's not 48 hours.
That's what we're talking about, right?
48 hours, eddie murphy.
Yeah, what's happening?
You are letting me down damnyou google but yeah, it's in the
early 80s because that was likehis first big movie outside of
snl was what really took off forhis film career, because after
that obviously he has this greatrun coming to america is

(25:54):
actually yeah, 82 thank youyou're welcome.
Yeah, so he has a great runthrough the early 80s and then
like the later 80s, but thatmid-80s run it's a little little
hit and miss here and thereyeah so I'm just going to
imagine, to get back us back ontrack, a eddie murphy vehicle.
So for the young alan, I'mpicking todd bridges and most
people know him as willis fromdifferent strokes.
That's pretty much his oneclaim to fame, pretty much, um,

(26:18):
but that's who I've got.
You know, you need a young guythat's just going to be wide
eyed and ready to take on theworld kind of thing, and but
he's still afraid to like standup to the bullies, and I think
that I think both of our choicesare going to kind of nail that
for sure.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah definitely sarah uma thurman uma thurman, so in
80s yeah 80, 87, because I thinkshe started acting around that
time.
She was in shows, so it wasbefore.
Um, oh gosh, it's slipping mybrain um robert downey jr's in
the movie.
Um, oh my gosh, I can't thinkof it right now.

(26:49):
Um thurman yes, it was um,because it had.
Wow, I am drawing a blank onwhat it is.
Oh my gosh Something, johnny.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Johnny Dangerously.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
No, johnny, be Good.
Johnny Be Good Got it, johnny,be Good, love it we're
professionals here.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
We know what we're talking about on this show.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, we know movies.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
We know movies.
We've seen stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
We've seen film the moves, yeah so all right, yeah,
so so she's done a couple ofstuff before that, but she would
have been like 17 around thattime, so it would work yeah,
you're definitely using the flexoption on our kid casting
because we've decided in 2024we're letting the rules be a
little flexed when we're castingkids because it's hard.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Um, speaking of casting a young female, in the
80s I chose for young sarah kimfields.
You know her as 2d from factsof life again big tv star of
like the late 70s, early 80s,for that role.
They had a lot of TV movieswith the Facts of Life cast
around this time and Kimreturned for that role
specifically.
But yeah, same thing.
You're going to have the girlthat young Alan wants to be with

(27:48):
and he, you know, he flirtswith her.
Then her boyfriend gets mad soshe comes to apologize and then
she gets traumatized when hegets sucked into the board game
Perfect.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
And then gets attacked by bats afterwards.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yes, exactly so.
Nora Shepard, Aunt Nora,originally played by Bebe Neweth
, again of Cheers and Frasierfame.
Who do you have for that one?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I went.
Karen Allen of the IndianaJones.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Okay, karen Allen, you know, known for that, one
known for Animal House as well.
Later on in the 80s she doesScrooged so big 80s staple Love
that, okay, that's a lot of fun.
I could see that for sure.
Who I'm going to give you isagain a TV star at the time.
There's, you know, that's thething about a lot of the African
American actors of the timethat are notable is a lot of
them are come from television,you know we don't see, you've

(28:32):
got your Eddie Murphy's of theworld and Morgan Freeman's and
but and but.
A lot of them, just um, are ontv playing iconic characters at
the time.
They haven't been given quitethe opportunity to jump to like
big screen uh, acting.
There's only a handful that getto do stuff like that at this
point.
But Felicia Rashad from theCosby show Mrs Cosby herself is
who I'm pulling for.
Nora Shepard, I think she's gotthe right kind of sarcastic

(28:55):
tone, very dry attitude, andthen it's going to be great when
she's freaking out whenalligators swim by or the
monkeys get in her car and stuff.
So I think both are a prettysolid pick.
Karen Allen's definitely tiedto Action Adventure anyway, so
that's going to be fun for her.
It's going to be kind of samehat for her, and then
Felicia's's gonna get a chanceto step out of the cosby shadow.

(29:16):
So, uh, you know we're savingher transitioning out of that
quickly.
Who is your carl bentley?
Who's gonna replace david allen?

Speaker 2 (29:23):
greer for you so because you just said you're
doing like a whole eddie murphyokay, okay, I picked eddie
murphy himself.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Oh, my gosh, sinbad was right there, cass, I know,
but I I saw eddie and I was likeno, that's perfect, because all
I could think.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
But I saw Eddie and I was like no, that's perfect,
because all I could think aboutwas 48 Hours.
And I was like I have to.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well, it's fair, because he's probably the
biggest African American name atthe time.
That's not Michael Jackson orPrince as an actor.
As a comedian, it's his momentin time To shine, for sure.
But there's plenty of greatActors that are going on at the
time at this point.
You know, initially I thoughtabout sinbad, who was kind of
playing a lot of smaller roles,and then there was part of me
that really wanted to justcontinue this like die hard kind
of connection, and just put, uh, carl winslow's, played by

(30:03):
original bell johnson, in it andjust be like this is it?
It's perfect, it's gonna keepgoing.
So I'm gonna.
I'm gonna adhere a little bitmore to my ruling.
I'm flipping things around, soI'm putting tom hanks here.
Oh okay, tom Hanks, it's beforebig in 88.
It's right around the time in84.
He's done bachelor party theyear before, which we would call
the early eighties.
He did splash in 83 with JohnCandy and Ron Howard directed,

(30:27):
but in the 85, he does man withone red shoe volunteers 86.
It's the money pit, nothing incommon.
And every time we say goodbye.
So he's because he's kind of acomedic character.
At this point he's leading inmovies, but he hasn't taken off
yet.
He's not tom hanks as we do himin the 90s, which we talked
about in our league of their ownepisode.
He just dominates the 90s,basically.
So I'm giving him this shotright here to be the funny guy,

(30:48):
and I can see him doing the samefreak out that david allen
greer does when the car getsfinally taken by the jungle.
He's just like fine, take itlike.
I can see him doing a greatfreak out job and he's just and
him and eddie murphy being likechained to each other in the car
, like having that interactionis gonna be fun too.
He's just gonna be great.
I think his freak out.
I hear his woody freak out voiceand I'm just like this is good,
this is gonna work, yeah great,yeah, that's, that's a perfect

(31:09):
example but yeah, and I thinkthat that's the thing it's like,
it's hard to top David AllenGreer's performance in this,
because he does such a good jobbeing, like you know, the guy
that looks up, looks out for thekid at the beginning, and then
years later, he's still tryingto be the good guy, trying to be
a cop, and then once he findsout it's Alan, he's just like
are you kidding me?
This is your fault, this is allyour fault.
Anyway, so that's our, that'sour 30 seconds or less, which we

(31:31):
probably didn't do, 30 secondsless, obviously, but we're going
to the main cast now.
So, cast For our main castwe're starting off with.
Actually, we have five, I lied.
We're going to start with MrParrish, I forgot and Van Peltz.
It's a dual role, kind ofsimilar to Peter Pan plays when
the dad would play Hook at thesame time.
That was kind of the mentalitythey had with this, which I is a

(31:53):
great.
Uh, move on their half.
It kind of gives it thattimeless vibe.
It harkens back to that kind ofthing.
But also jonathan hyde, whoplays him, I think, just nails
both roles like perfectly.
Like I would want to see himactually play captain hook in
some version, like I think hewould have been great for that.
I'll keep that in mind nexttime hook comes around.
I don't know if that's that's atough one to bring up again
because we love it so much.
But yeah, if you don't know, ifthat's a, that's a tough one to

(32:15):
bring up again Cause we love itso much.
But yeah, if you don't knowJonathan Hyde, he's basically
known.
He's one of the rich guys inTitanic.
He's in he's.
He is the rich British guy inAnaconda.
He's also the rich British guyin the mummy, if you needed the
snarky, snotty, snobby, rich guyin the yeah, but he does
excellent here.
Like Van Pelt's a little overthe top, but it just fits, it

(32:37):
just works.
It's a lot of fun.
But even when it comes, like tothe final scene, when he's like
got him at gunpoint, he's likeany last words, like he knows
when to really zero in and justgive it like the dramatic
gravitas that it needs.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
You know, Correct, I agree.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
For sure, for sure.
Tim Curry had discussions forthis part and I guess he ended
up not doing it, but he wouldlater voice a character in the
Jumanji TV series in 96.
So he's played traitor slick.
I'd ever watched the show, didyou ever?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
watch the show?
No, I didn't know there was.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
I faintly remember there being a show.
It's one of those.
I don't even know what channelis on.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I feel like it was a thought at that time.
No, because it was 96 1996.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
So, uh, you went first in the 30 seconds or less,
so I guess I'll go first herethat's great.
Thank you, you know I try to benice but, um, I'm gonna give you
, I'm gonna give you an actorthat a lot of people won't know
the name, but he's a greatcharacter actor.
Uh, most people know him fromrudy.
He is the caretaker of thenotre dame, like football field
and stuff.
Charles s dunn, he's just, he'sjust got a.

(33:41):
He's got a quality to his voice, he's got a.
He carries himself very well, avery strong individual.
Um, he's known for that.
He's in a time to kill and he'san alien.
3 actually.
But in the 80s he's still doinga lot of tv work, um, and some
lesser known movies.
In 86 it's no mercy, a tv moviecalled apology, cagney and
lacey the tv show, and then hemakes appearances in the

(34:02):
equalizer tv show and miami viceand in 85 also a movie called
cat's eye.
Um, you might have also seenhim in gothica like.
He played a small role in thatas well, but I just think he's
got a lot of again gravitas,like we talked about.
He's very strong figure.
Anytime he's in a scene,especially in those rudy movies
like, he's just really likepointed and giving like his
thoughts and stuff.
So I think he's going to bereally fun here and yeah, and

(34:24):
playing the dad, but also likehe, he's good, he's got great tv
dad energy and I feel likethat's going to translate well
to mr parish.
But then van pelt as well, likehe's just going to be very
commanding and it's going to bea lot of fun for him.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
So who do you have for Mr Parrish Van Pelt?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
I did struggle with this one Because I feel like
Jonathan Hyde just did such agreat job with it, because you
are getting that serious role,but you're also getting the fun
role of Van Pelt.
Yes, but I did want to havesomeone fun that would actually
fit the role really, really well.

(34:59):
So I am giving you ChristopherWalken.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Okay, okay, christopher, you don't hear a
lot about Walken in the 80s,like he had a great run at the
end of like the 70s and stuff,and you don't really Nothing
immediately comes to mind, wasthat when he did the Bond movie,
maybe?
Maybe, Because he's got DeerHunter and Deer Hunter in 1978.
And before that and after thatobviously he plays just the old

(35:27):
guys.
I feel like the 80s was likehis last, like you know, middle
aged run maybe.
But in the 80s, you know, hestarts off.
After Deer Hunter he's doingthings like Heaven's Gate, the
Dogs of War, the Dead Zone, aView to a Kill is in 85.
This is about that point wherehe's playing villains and stuff.
It seems like Everything elseI'm not familiar with at close
range in 86.
There's nothing in 84.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Puss in Boots.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
That's not the Puss in Boots that we know that's not
it.
The picture is so funny thoughand boots that we know that's
not it, but the picture is sofunny though, let me, let me see
this.
Let me see this real quick.
It's christopher walken andhe's just looking at a cat.
He's just talking to the cat.
That's funny, that's reallyfunny.
Puss in boots delightful taleof a cat who becomes a sharp
gentleman and sets out torestore his master's name so he,
like, takes over christopherwalken's.
Is that the actual puss inboots story?
I don't even know.

(36:12):
I just realized I don't knowthe actual origin of the puss in
boots.
Like story from like back inthe day, like fairy tale story.
Now I just feel completelymisled by shrek, oh my gosh a
little bit, it's fine anothertime perhaps, yeah, learning new
things, but no, I could seethat like walking, you know
you've got walking.
You've got willem dafoe aroundthat time, even a ben kingsley

(36:32):
like that, that very properactor with a little bit of
uniqueness to them, especiallywalk-in.
He's just gonna make a veryinteresting dad, but also he's
gonna really ham it up his vanpelt.
I feel like, so that's a,that's a pretty strong choice, I
would say.
And like he's gonna be a name,everybody's gonna go, oh, he's
in this, cool, yeah, check thatout for sure.
Okay, moving on, we've got thefirst of the two shepherd kids

(36:54):
that pop up 30 years later whenhe comes out of the jungle Peter
Shepard, who's played byBradley Pierce.
Some people will know him from,I guess, sonic the Hedgehog and
the Borrowers.
I remember the Borrowers, I doremember him in that.
That was a 90s movie.
And then is he Chip in Beautyand the Beast.
That's my wild guess.
Is that who he plays?
I'm not sure I think he playsyeah yeah, he voices Chip.

(37:17):
So that's interesting.
He goes from Chip to Jumanji,some Sonic the Hedgehog I'm
assuming he's the voice actor inthe TV show or movies that came
out around that time.
Cool, cool, cool.
So yeah, he does.
I think he's for for a kidactor.
He's really good.
I feel like he really nails hisscenes.
Like he starts off quiet and amute and then you just learn
like he just doesn't care totalk to anybody and then, once
he does start talking, you'relike, oh, he's just as

(37:38):
mischievous as judy, likethey're both kind of like two
peas in a pod basically yeahdefinitely, and he he kind of
gets a little kevin mcallisterinfluence, because he's the one
in the piggly wiggly uh storewho basically sets up the trap
for van pelt to save uh judy andsarah from him so he's.
He's a well-rounded like kind ofcharacter and he's the only he
gets to even break the fourthwall when he goes after the axe.

(38:00):
He's trying to chop down thedoor with the axe.
He stops, looks at the camera.
His timing is really good, Ithink, in this movie.
He kind of nails it.
Even underneath all theprosthetic, when he becomes the
monkey, he's able to still emoteand stuff, which is a lot to
ask for a kid his age.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
A child.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
For a child.
For a child?
Yes, there's like there's now.
Yeah, with all this nickelodeonstuff coming out, now there's
even discussion like do we evenneed kids in movies?
Should we put kids in movies?
And it's like, oh, it's, it hasto.
You have to take it on acase-to-case basis and really
just need to put parameters inplace just to make sure the kids
are okay and make sure thatparents are just forcing them
into this career.
You know, because that's evensomething macaulay culkin had to
deal with and lindsey lohan andsomewhat the olsen twins, but
but yeah, I think he does agreat job here.

(38:42):
So, uh, for me I picked someonewho's very familiar to
audiences from the fresh princeof bel-air in the 90s.
I'm giving you alfonso ribiero.
Uh, he's known for playingcarlton banks dancing with the
stars.
Um, he's also the.
He was the host for america'sfunniest home videos for a
moment here a couple years back.
But in 84 he's the kid thatdances in the Pepsi New

(39:04):
Generation commercial withMichael Jackson.
Because he's a, he's a he's.
That's what he was known for.
He was like this kid who coulddance and that's the same
Michael Jackson video I believethat he caught.
He got caught on fire andstarted like where he started,
having surgeries and stuff.
So kind of, in fact, you know,kind of kind of sad.
But beyond that, in 84 to 87he's doing silver spoons tv.

(39:25):
He appears on shows like magnumpi before he gets his uh,
iconic role of carlton banks.
So I'm giving you alfonsorubiero at that age and he's, I
think he's just gonna have a lotof fun with it.
It's the same reasonings for abradley pierce.
He's, he has a strong on screen.
He knows his character, hasgreat comedic timing and stuff.
And then it's the 80s, so he ofcourse he's probably going to
throw in a dance move orsomething in there somewhere,

(39:46):
because that's just his go to atthis point in his career.
So yeah, who do you have forPeter Shepard Cass?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
So I wanted to try to keep the vibe of, you know,
someone that is quiet but can bemischievous okay the actor that
I picked.
I feel like we don't hear hisname as much because he died in
2003 okay and this was before it1990 came out, and I thought he
would be a really good pick.
I went jonathan brandisjonathan brandis.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
What you guys?
What do we know him from?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
mainly you.
You would know him from it,sorry, not TV series, miniseries
.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Because that was when it was three hours long and
they broke it in half.
But, he was Bill, he was theyoung Bill.
Okay, gotcha so he was like themain face of that like of the
kids, and he was in an episodeof like Full House at one point.
He really honestly didn't havebig, big roles.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Correction, he was in Corey's favorite 1992 movie,
ladybugs, with RodneyDangerfield.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
And then he's also in another franchise called the
NeverEnding Storycast.
You may have heard of it.
It hasn't ended yet.
It's a never ending story.
He plays Bastion in ANeverEnding Story 2, the next
chapter, so a lot of 90s kidsprobably are familiar with him
from there, right?
But he's also, yes, in the itminiseries.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Your horror fan is showing Cass.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I know I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
You immediately were like well, he's in this, but I
don't really know anything else.
I'm like Neverending Story isright there, cass.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I'm sorry.
Listen, the two main thingsthat I know him from are it and
full house.
He was only in one episode offull house, so, okay, that's
fair, it's fine, but I just Ithink he would do a really good
job, cause even the characterbill was kind of like you know,
quiet and reserved, but he stillgains like that courage and
stuff.
So I feel like it'd be fun tosee him in mid 80s so he would

(41:38):
have been young, but I stillthink that was.
It's still a good age for himto play this role yeah, for sure
, for sure.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Cool.
Yeah, I like that pick for two.
I like when I like when we pickpeople that kind of got some
roles but then kind of got lostand fell under the radar a bit,
and so I'm glad to see yeah givepeople like that second chance
that they need.
So okay.
So moving on, we've got judyshepherd, played by kirsten
dunst, kind of the it girl ofthe 90s at this point, even as a

(42:06):
child, you know.
She had that role in interviewwith a vampire among and then
went on to obvi, star inspider-man movies and bring it
on.
So she's had a reallyinteresting career after being a
child star.
But I think she's also reallygood here as well.
There's a reason she was achild star or even a young teen
star at this point because shedoes.
She's just very sarcastic.
She has great lines, but thenshe, even though that they both

(42:28):
do a good job of being slightlyunlikable in the beginning and
then, like you learn about theirbackstory and why they are the
way they are and you're sort oflike, okay, I get it now, like
I'm totally behind you guys now,kind of thing I like judy as a
character.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I think she's, I feel like she's in a way relatable
with like the mischief and stuff, because even like when you
first meet her, she's likemessing with the woman that sold
them the house.
Yes, like she literally justplays this whole thing about her
parents dying.
Like what?
On a?
On a ship, if I'm not mistakenoh, I don't even remember.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
It was just a very wild story and just making her
feel awful.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
And then she just walks away laughing but you
could just tell that she is agood character.
She cares about her brother alot and she, she's like one of
the first ones that wants tolike finish the game, like I
think she knew instantly likeokay, we do need to finish this
game, like when her and peterstart playing it.
But I, I like her, I I thinkshe's fun and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
They're just siblings that have gone through a very
traumatic event and they're justdepending on each other and
they probably got moved around,you know, at least once or twice
in schools and stuff, and soshe's just taking up for herself
.
It's her shield, her defensemechanism, basically.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Right and it's just good that they both have each
other like they do, because ifshe didn't like, if they had a
terrible relationship, theywould both just be kind of alone
in this serious moment.
But because this happened tothem, they do have a close bond
with each other and it's nice tosee, like, how much they even
grow like throughout the movieand stuff.
Yeah, siblings.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Oh yeah, well for my judy shepherd I picked again.
This is the only other otherperson I'm picking from the
cosby show, but I am bringinglisa bonet.
Most people will know her asthe mother of zoe kravitz.
They were was married at onepoint to lenny kravitz.
Um, but from 84 to 91 this isher cosby show run in early,

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early 84, 85.
She's still very much ateenager.
She actually gets a spinoff in87 to 89 of a different world
where she goes to college.
I didn't know this until doingsome research here, so it looks
like a fun one.
Marissa Tomei is actually in ittoo, so it looks like a fun
series.
It lasted a couple seasons Iguess.
But yeah, most people will knowher from the cosby show

(44:41):
obviously.
And then she in 85.
The only other thing outside ofthat she's doing like tales
from the dark side of tv showand some abc after school
specials.
But I think she it's lisa bonet.
If you're familiar with herjust from the cosby show, but
also who she is as a person like, she just kind of fits like
that sarcastic kind of playingthe system, going against type,
you know, not really wanting toconform to normalcy type of
character, and I feel like that.
That's judy pretty much to a tyeah um, and so I just think

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she's gonna have a lot of funwith it and I think her it'll be
interesting to see her andalfonso riviero kind of paired
up and he I think a lot ofpeople will expect carlton, but
he's definitely gonna be playinglike okay, he's a good actor,
like yeah, he drops the carlton,like I think that's the thing
people are.
He just he played Carlton solong and he people expect him to
play that.
So like you're gonna besurprised when he's like, oh,
he's actually playing thisquieter kid that slowly opens up

(45:26):
the movie and she's gonna playthe dramatic teenager that you
suddenly realize is like ohshe's, she actually cares about
her family and stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I like it.
I think it's a good.
That's a solid pick actually.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Well who do you have for judy?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I wanted to.
I I let me just say it I pickedjennifer connelly.
It's okay 86.
She was doing labyrinth so Iwas kind of giving that vibe of,
you know, still being amischievous kid yeah, but like
growing into, like herself, aslike a person, like caring, like
about a brother, caring aboutjust everything again.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Like being able to open up there's some crossover
here with your logic.
I see, I see what you'rethrowing down.
I see what you're stepping in.
It's a bit of a layup, but I'llallow it, because who doesn't
other than cory?
Uh, everyone loves somejennifer connelly in their lives
more jennifer connelly to beexact.
Yeah, so I think that's fair.
I think I think you're.
You know, I haven't seen a lotof her 80s stuff, like outside
of labyrinth I want to see onceupon a time in america, but I

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think she has a smaller role inthat and she really seems to get
like a lot of like teen rolesin the early 90s as well, before
she becomes a full-on adult, aswe all learn in, uh, in the
very dramatic movie that comesout in, like the is it 99 or is
it oh, requiem?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
for a dream, isn't it 2000?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
like yeah, I think it's 2000 because that's the
reason cory's like I can neverwatch her in a movie.
I'm like I've seen actresses doweirder stuff in a movie, like
calm down, like okay, but I getit because that movie is really
heavy.
The movie's heavy but nobodylooks.
That goes why I don't want towatch jared leto, because he was
in that movie.
You know, like they have otherreasons for not watching Jared
Leto.
No comment.
Transitioning out of that, goodchoices on our half, we got two

(47:03):
more left here.
So let's start with SarahWhittle, played by Bonnie Hunt.
Most people will know her fromBeethoven, the Green Mile.
I didn't know she was in that,actually I forgot she was.
And Cheaper by the Dozen, she'sthe mom of the 2,500 kids that
Steve Martin and her puttogether.
That's a lot of kids.
She does a good job.
She's not who I think you wouldtypically expect in a big family

(47:26):
movie like this.
You would think they would havegone for a starlet like a
Catherine Zeta-Jones or somebodyof.
I'm not saying Bonnie Hutt'snot pretty, but she gives more
best friend mom energy in a way.
But she's also very funny.
So I think she nails like beingthis girl who was traumatized

(47:48):
by this very crazy event andthen goes on to be like a
psychiatrist basically, and isusing all of these practices and
stuff to be like it's not real,it's not happening, this is all
crazy.
And then and she does so wellwhen he's like he shows back up,
she passes out, and thenthey're trying to like get her
to play the game and she's likeI won't do it, I won't do it, I
won't do it.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, she's no, has no longer a choice and she
realizes like we've got tofinish the game well, and you
bring, you bring up, like allthese other actresses for sarah,
when jodie foster, demi moore,madonna, michelle pfeiffer and
like uh, uh, kirstie Allen, orKirstie Allen, uh or Alki, yeah,
Jamie Lee Curtis.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Even even Helen Hunt was brought up before Bonnie
Hunt.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
So it's like thinking of names like that, you would
expect someone in that role, butthen again I still think she
did a really good job, becausethis is someone that went crazy
after Allen's disappearance.
You kind of need someone thatlike not looks like disheveled
but I think you understand whatI mean Like where it's like more
like kind of laid back.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
There's some baggage going on yeah.
And she does it in a humorousway, but it's also like a
believable, like yeah, I think.
I think that's how most peoplewould react when they're
presented again with a boardgame that potentially tried to
kill them.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
But I think that's another win, for Joe Johnston
and the casting team behind thescenes are going like this is
actually we want to.
We want to fit the charactermore than getting like just a
name in the movie per se.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
But my choice.
Most people will know her fromcommando the color purple
running out of luck and Americanflyers.
Commando and color purple are85 is the year, and then in 86,
she's in soul man.
This is Ray Don chunk.
She's a canadian actress.
Uh, she was initially in saint,elsewhere the tv show and 84,
then city limits and fierce city, as well as the cheech and

(49:25):
chong krizkan brothers orkrizian brothers movie that came
out that same year and beatstreet.
Uh, she actually got.
Uh, I guess her first big rolewas quest for fire, which is
this role like a stone agecaveman movie.
Yeah, where she's playing like awoman that they find and kind
of capture and then let intotheir gang of cavemen, I guess,
or whatever.
It's an interesting movie.

(49:46):
I watched it a while back.
But Ray Dong Chong, she's just,she's kind of like a Nick girl
of the moment and I think thatshe's just going to be between
commando and color purple and Ithink she's just going to have a
lot of fun in this role, forsure.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, I agree.
Who is your Sarah?

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Whittle, or did I already spoil it?
Yeah, yeah, you did Not.
To be fair, you didn't have tosay anything earlier, but tell
me why you chose Goldie Hawn.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Honestly well and not to already spoil my Alan pick,
but it was.
I picked Alan first, I just,but I won't explain why I picked
Alan.
But I liked the idea of GoldieHawn because it's still the same
age range with her and BonnieHunt.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Or just or that character in general.
But I just I wanted someonethat would fit that role and
Goldie Hawn is pretty, but Istill like look at her as almost
like she could pull off, likewhat Bonnie Hunt did.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Well, she's very much a comedic actress.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
She's pull off like what bonnie hunt did.
Well, she's very much a comedicactress, right she's?
She's, she kind of got herstart doing a lot of comedy and
stuff and that's pretty muchjust her, her, her, her, her
lane, if you will yeah so Ithink I think that's spot on,
honestly, because, again, that'skind of where I was going to if
I had gone down the same road.
But I think it.
I don't think there, I thinkit's, it's not, it's not on the
nose, it's's just like, yes,that's exactly who it would be,

(50:59):
you know in that movie.
And you know she's doingWildcats in 86 where she's like
the coach of a football team, soshe's doing comedy stuff, like
before that in 82.
She was in Best Friendsalongside Burt Reynolds, so this
is in her wheelhouse for sure,100%.
And then you know when you getto Kurt it's all going to make
sense why this works so well,especially so yeah but I'll just

(51:21):
go ahead and let you segue intothat.
So tell me why you chose kurtand then what led it to you
going like go pick goldie too.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
So yeah, I, I picked kurt for alan because kurt
russell does a lot of characteracting to begin with, like, and
what one thing that I reallylike about him is the movie like
death proof, kind of likeproved that for me like that was
the first time that I ever seenhim doing something like along
those roles.
So it's like when I watched himin that I was like, oh, kurt
Russell can do a lot ofdifferent type of roles like

(51:49):
this, so I wanted someone thatgave me Robin Williams, where it
can be fun and just kind ofover the top, and I think, like
as of now, like with KurtRussell being older, you don't
see him in those type of roles.
They're more serious, because I, if I'm not mistaken, recently
he's been in that um, is itGodzilla show?
Was it the Godzilla?
He?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
was in the Godzilla show, where him and his son
played the same character, butbefore that he's doing like the
same.
He's playing Santa Claus insome Netflix movies right but he
he's had an interesting career.
I mean he's he was known as,like this Disney kid back in the
late sixties and seventies.
He was in the computer war,tennis shoes in 69.
And then he kind of gets in gunsmoke and TV shows like that
police story, and then finallykind of gets his bearings in the

(52:29):
eighties once he's casted inthe thing Yep, and then also
before that and escape from NewYork in 81, a great movie in
1980 called used cars.
It's the guys who made back tothe future with I.
Definitely 80 called used cars.
It's the guys who made back tothe future with I.
Definitely recommend that.
It's a lot of fun.
He was the voice of copper inthe fox and the hound too, if
you need to understand his range.
But yeah, in the mid 80s, likein 86, you get big trouble,
little china, and from there hekind of gets pegged as like oh,

(52:50):
he's action guy, so tequila,sunrise, tango and cash
backdraft, you know, and theninto tombstone and stuff in the
90s, right, so he's, he's beenall over the map and that's why
I also thought of him as well,because he has a comedic nature.
It's more of a carefree kind oflucky kind of thing, like he's
just a good hang guy, like yousee that in like captain ron and

(53:13):
things of that nature plus, hewould pull off the beard when
alan comes back right, like thatmanic energy that robin robin
william again, as we've statedmany times on this show is a one
for one.
You're not going to find areplicate.
But weirdly it's like Kurt islike the flip side of that for
this role when, like RobinWilliams is more of a comedic
actor and he gets put in thiskind of leading man kind of

(53:35):
action role.
It's like you pulled the actionguy in and said, okay, now be
pulling your funny stuff,pulling the the disney stuff
side of yourself, which he'scompletely capable of doing.
So I think that's.
I'm glad that we both prettymuch had the same pick, because
I was just like yeah, that'sperfect and him and goldie
together, like they're gonna bean overboard a year later or the
end of the mid 80s.
So it's just.
It just just add that to thecanon of movies they've been in

(53:57):
together, because their, theirchemistry is great anyway oh
yeah, it's perfect yeah, andhe's also good at.
The most important piece, Ithink, of robin williams
performance in jumanji is hismonologue.
After the kids are trying toreverse psychology him and be
like, oh, we don't need yourhelp, and he stops them.
He's like I've seen thingsyou've only seen in your
nightmares and he's just sostone cold, sober about it and I

(54:18):
I was like I'm like this is sogood, like I think that's the
thing Like when Robin Williamscommits to something like he
commits, like he's yeah, he'splaying basically the man, crazy
man from the jungle.
But then you see that scene andyou're like, oh, he's seen stuff
, you know.
And Joe Johnston hadreservations over casting him
just because of his reputationfor improvisation and him just

(54:44):
because of his reputation forimprovisation and he was just
worried he wouldn't adhere tothe script.
But robin williams understoodthat it was like this tight,
structured story and hegenerally would film the scenes
kind of as outlined in thescript and he was kind of
allowed to improvise, usuallywhen scenes with bonnie hunt, so
like.
That just shows you robinwilliams is very committed to
the character when it comes tomovies and stuff and he's
constantly goes to surprise youand I think that's what makes
him so endearing is that whilehe is this funny man and this
manic being that goes 100 milesan hour, he can super hyper,
focus that into these roles,like this dead poet society,

(55:06):
even in pieces of hook.
You know, like he's, he's gonna,he's gonna give you drama on
top of the on the comedy as wellso like I said before, I put
eddie murphy here and I thinkit's kind of the same thing, to
an extent in the same vein, oflike comedy guy becoming action
hero.
Eddie Murphy already wasbecoming kind of that comedy
action guy because, like yousaid, 48 hours Beverly Hill Cop
in 84 and he kind of tries toemulate that again down the road

(55:29):
, but it never quite hits thesame.
And so I think that this atleast it hits into that family
friendly world that he taps intolater in his career with, like
the daddy daycare and things ofthat nature.
But I think this is going to bea fun role for him to also kind
of tune into and he'll get tobe the yeah, he'll be the crazy
guy coming out of the box,basically, but he'll also it'll
be interesting to see.
It would be interesting to seehow he would handle those

(55:51):
dramatic pieces.
And he's been nominated, youknow, for dream girls as an
Oscar.
So it's not like he doesn'thave the chops for it.
I just think he wasn't giventhat many opportunities early on
because he was Eddie Murphy, hewas the biggest guy on the
planet.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Yeah, and I just, if you think of like Shrek, just
thinking how he is as likeDonkey, like the screams and
things like that, like I couldjust see him doing that for that
role as Alan so.
I 100% agree with it.
I think he would do a really,really great job with it.
I think it would be fun withhim.
Yeah, but no, I mean, eddieMurphy is definitely still one
of those actors that canhonestly do it all.

(56:24):
It's the same like examplesthat we've been using with, like
with Kurt Russell and everyoneelse.
But it's just, I think he would.
It would be a good role for him, especially leading man in that
sense of this fun familyadventure film.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Right, but that's the thing.
Adventure film right, butthat's the thing.
Eddie murphy, that's.
We don't get to cast him a lotof movies because at this point
he's so big.
Not only is he in beverly hillscop at 84, he's so big that as
an actor and comedian hereleases a single, a music video
, a song party all the time at85, and it's a hit, it's a
banger.
It actually got like, it'ssuccessful, like he's.
This triple threat before thetriple threats were occurring

(56:57):
like we see them nowadays.
Cause, like you couldn't tell me, I don't think anybody was
going to sit there and go like,yeah, the guy from SNL who has
his raw standup series or showand then gets played as the
funny guy in 48 hours and thengets this action movie, the
ability to lose cop, he's goingto come out with a song and
we're going to take it seriously.
Like, imagine, like Jack Blackhas tenacious D, but there's a

(57:18):
humor to that, like it leansinto the Jack Blackness of it.
It'd be like.
It'd be like if Kevin Harttried to release a pop song,
like five years ago that's whatthis is Cause.
Like when Kevin Hart was at thepeak of his powers.
Or Chappelle, if Chappelletried to release a song.
How serious would we have takenthat we wouldn't have.
But because it's Eddie Murphy.
Like he gets the pass, like he,it's the past, like he, it's
because he's he just reachesthat level of superstardom so

(57:39):
anyway, gotta have it all gottahave it all.
Well, that's our cast list.
You know, I think we both kindof nailed like the vein we were
trying to go down to.
I think we did a decent jobtrying to replicate this in an
80s aesthetic yeah and I likewhere we both I I like just that
we both were on the same pagewhen I was going the more
traditional route.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
And then I was like I'm gonna make an eddie murphy
movie and I was like okay, allright, cool, that was perfect,
and you and I never usually pickthe same stuff, so the fact
that we were both on the samepage with.
That was perfect it was thatsame exact example was them
having good chemistry too likeyou know, they have good
chemistry.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
They might stay together for a while.
Maybe they'll get married, whoknows, they don't have to get
married, they just live together.
It's fine's fine.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
They'll have a few kids.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
They'll go on, I'm sure, but anyway, let's wrap
this up.
It's a mini, so we can't stayon too long, but that is Jumanji
in the mid 80s.
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Speaker 2 (58:44):
Whoa please.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
And then we'll catch you next time.
But just to wrap it up, we loveJumanji, we love Robin Williams
, and I think that's why we'lltalk about it more.
But anyway, that's it for us.
We'll see you next time.
Say good night, cass good nightcass.