Quantum Reaction: 2024 State of Movies (So Far)

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Welcome to another episode of Quantum Recast.
Nick, I want to ask you aboutcollege football.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Uh hi, okay, Go ahead .

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Uh yes, Alright, so, by the way, this is Quantum
Recast.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
It is right.
I'm confused now.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
But we will be doing no recasting on this episode,
not today.
Not today, nick.
We've had a summer.
We've had a summer and, by theway, I'm going to come back to
college football but we have toexplain what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, got it, got it got it.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yes, we've had a summer.
You've been in Africa.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
You went to.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
South America.
I went to South America weddingbecause we were globetrotting
other places.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Money was an issue.
We only have so much money.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
But it looked lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Ash, it did, it looked lovely.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
He said it was very great.
We're not sure that you're notroyalty or that you didn't marry
royalty.
To be honest, your wedding didnot look like an American
wedding, so not sure if you'rejust bathing in money.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I feel like that's a compliment, to be honest.
Or if just european weddingslook awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I mean they have the cathedrals and like and ours are
just like baptist churches thathave been there since the 50s
it's like that joke when disneyworld started building parks
over there and they, like theyget to magical kingdom like we
gotta.
The castle's gotta be big yeah,we can't just, we can't just
get by with like oh, a castle,we gotta build a real one,
because they actually have themhere.
So that's like the joke.
Um and so uh, because themagical kingdom castle this

(01:45):
one's not really big, not thatbig yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, it just looks big.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
You gotta go to disney world for cinderellas but
even then that one's not thatbig, not on the same level it's
still like you're like, oh, like.
When I go to like when I wentto europe, I was like I need to
see castles yeah, yeah, so, um,but yeah, so we've had a summer,
um, it's been busy, yes, um,and I would just say that I
guess we've had a little burnout, just mentally, physically

(02:09):
going on, and so we need to pullback a little bit on a few
things yeah, and quantum recastwas one of those things, because
, whether you realize it or not,those episodes take sometimes
stupid amounts of work.
It's you gotta watch the movie,you gotta pay attention, you
gotta like the whole timeyou're're on.
Imdb, looking for stuff and itjust lives in your head for days
.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
You gotta think about if Corey's gonna hate or love
your decision.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yes, but I mean like you're just like you've made
your list, you do it and you'rejust sitting at work and you
just yell out Denzel Washington,and everyone looks at you and
you're like, don't worry aboutit.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Never mind, I'm not insane.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
And so we?

Speaker 2 (02:40):
we just need a break from the traditional construct
of quantum recast and we've gotstuff going on through the rest
of the year, like Corey and Iwrote a script and we're trying
to actually get a movie made,yeah, so there's that.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's kind of a big deal, so we don't have time for
other movies Not at the momentor recasting other movies at
least Sure, sure so, but wedidn't want to like leave we
yeah we wanted to just take abreak and just do more of a
stupid traditional pop culturemovie podcast.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I don't know.
I was having a conversationwith a friend a few weeks ago
and we were in some conversation.
They called the culture cursedand that's been living in my
brain.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
And I'm like I just kind of want to do that, I just
want to talk about how popculture is kind of broken.
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
In a weird way.
Yeah, you know, and I mean whatI'm talking about.
Either you're one of thosepeople that's just rage baiting
everyone with stupid opinions,or you're mad at the people rage
baiting everyone with stupidopinions, and so we thought
we'll talk about the stupidopinions yes of the world and
just there's lots of them but wealso are going to open it up to
things like college footballand music and other, just

(03:37):
whatever happens to cross ourminds.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I guess we're just going to do a pop culture
podcast for a for a hot minute,for a hot minute.
See, you got half.
The people are clicking off.
There's like well, what movie Iwanted to recast what happened
to the lost boys never happening.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
So um, that's what happened to.
It never happened got it soit's just gonna be me and nick
for a little while for a momentI'm just talking about pop
culture.
Yeah, um and uh.
So, but nick, I've got, I'vegot.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
So yeah, now that we've established that college
football.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Corey Nick, I hate it so much.
And it's just that time of yearand we're in an election year.
It's like saying you're a bluedot in a red state.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
That's my life with college football.
Well, you hate the majoruniversity in the state,
Oklahoma University.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I just don't get college football period.
It's not like I love adifferent college.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
But I do hate.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Oh, you a little bit more, because you watch sports,
you watch football like you're asteelers fan.
It shocks people that they findout that I do watch sports on
occasion well, you know, we'rethe the movie guys yeah, getting
outside of a box is justunheard of yeah, no, like I like
I like professional football,like I'm a steelers fan I'll
watch cowboys games and thingsI'll laugh at the cowboys and so
I mean like I don't, but Idon't like wear the shirts and

(04:42):
stuff and I don't like I don'tlike have to see every Steelers
game, like I'm not wearing aHeinz Ward jersey throwback.
I could go a whole weekend andnot see football and be okay
okay, you know, not my father'sexperience, but yes yeah, so
like I'm, but like, and I'm moreof a basketball person, sure
you know, here's my thing, man,I, I just, and I know why.

(05:03):
But every year I get angry, soangry, at the first couple weeks
college football.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
We're so proud that our massive d1 hyper athlete
school beat up the tiny schoolit's, you know like I had a few
friends over to watch a fewgames saturday and we were also
watching wrestling but alsowatching college football, and
it was because you're a man,because I'm a man, and it was
just like, and you're watchingthe game, like, oh, they scored,
they scored again.

(05:30):
Maybe the team will come back.
Oh no, they won't.
They won't because they're,they're nobodies.
So, yeah, it's, it's like allthat well, because people are,
so they've had, they've beennine months without football,
without violence, and so they'relike, yes, we finally get to
have football again.
And even if it's just we'rebeating up on the little guy,
it's still like, yeah, myfootball team's back yeah, and I
mean like, and to explain,we're from oklahoma, right, we
don't have a pro football teamand so the oklahoma sooners are.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
They are the pro football team, yes, you know,
and so that's why I just have amisplaced hatred for them.
They've never done anythingwell.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
You grow up a lot of people grow up and that's just
the thing, the state you grow upin.
Generally you will be the fanof that one of those teams.
You pick a team and you justlive sooner born and sooner bred
, and then you die, sooner dead.
But you know, in some cases,like my father, he grew up in
kentucky.
They don't have a greatfootball team, but he watched
the game of the century back inlike the 70s between nebraska
and oklahoma.
His dad and uncle my uncle wentfor nebraska, so he's like I'm

(06:18):
gonna go for ou and he's justbeen on board packed up his life
and moved to oklahoma and he,just he, just he, just said I'm
in I'll count it all the way in.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I just hope that's true, it's I mean it's partially
true, okay, all right.
So, um, but like that's mything and my thing, nick, is,
why can't the nfl do that?
Why can't the cowboys just picka d2 school and just beat the?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
crap out of the first week, just because for all the
same reasons which is, you see,cory, that would require the
cowboys to be good oh anybody,all right name.
Any NFL team, all NFL teamsshould just get to pick whatever
D2 school that Really you wouldjust pick like a UFL, xfl,
ussfl or whatever's existing nowand just be like we're going to
beat up on them.
But that's why they but theNFL's no better.
They have five weeks or so ofpreseason games which is really

(06:59):
like Dak Prescott might run aseries.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, that's just the other dudes trying to get their
jobs.
That's the walk-ons trying toget their jobs.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
But people go to those games.
They pack out Arlington.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Stadium.
I've been to one of those games.
I went to a preseason game,it's like the only affordable
way to go to an NFL game.
Yeah, I went and watched thedude with the great hair for
Jaguars play the Cowboys PaulAmato.
No, and that was fun, and Imight have seen Baby Blue Eyes,
joe Burrow, play a preseasongame too in the Cowboys.
Yeah, I've been to preseasongames.

(07:28):
I don't not really.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I've never been to an actual major NFL game.
I've been to an MLB gameRangers game.
I've been to Oklahoma CityThunder Mavericks games well,
just to wrap up the footballthing because, yeah, all of our
Movie fans are like what in thehell are they talking about?
Try to tie this into movies.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
They're like sitting there like this is going to get
to weird.
Corey's got something up hissleeve.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Remember the Titans somehow.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
No, I don't.
I don't, but like it's whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I grew up in this part of the world, my parents
are diehard OU people, which,again, I just grew up and going
like neither of go there it's aschool.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
That's my.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I just want to yell it's a school see, the problem
is is that you think toologically about football and
universities in a grand scale.
You don't look at it as justour team like.
You don't reference ou as likewe got a good win today.
We picked up a d, a number oneprospect, I know when we talk
about football, we go yeah, theSooners, I guess they won.
We don't go, we won.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
It's like no, that's the thing it's the, and for all
week I've been getting like theboomer sooner.
We really took it to temple andit's like you're proud of that.
You're the fifth grader thatjust beat up a first grader on
the playground and now you'restrutting down the hall.
It's like, come on, man, atleast just don't be proud of it.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I would be happy if let these two weeks happen and
just it's like three weeks or so.
Yeah, it's, it's well.
Now it's like a month beforeanyone plays college, now the
sec.
It's like either they get twonon-conference games like this
and then in november they justrandomly play, like you know,
tech university.
It feels made up.
That's my problem.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
It feels made up, it's made up like they should
have tighter things.
Like, if you're, you shouldonly play the people in your
thing and that's it in thedivision one, yeah, and if you
have a number by your name, youshould only play the people in
your thing and that's it In theDivision I yeah, and if you have
a number by your name, youshould only play people with
numbers by their name.
You're right.
You're right and I get theargument, which is the first
week's supposed to be likemorale, and then the little
school makes a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Which, hey, I think that works for the NFL.
If Temple went and played thefreaking New England Patriots,
people would tune in.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
They would, the diehards would, for sure.
People are starved for football.
That's why these weeks work,because it's a build-up and
they're like, okay, now we'regetting into the middle schedule
, we're going to see OU finallyplay Texas again in Tennessee.
We're going to see Georgia downthe line if we make it all the
way to the championship.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
And you're like you're not going to make it to
the championship.
Wanted to complain um all right.
So let's talk pat mccarthy,let's, let's ease our way out of
sports okay into a pop culture,sports adjacent thing.
Got it right, because patmccarthy is more, he's more of a
pop culture thing yes, he's atv.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
He's a tv like commentator personality yeah,
like he has a sports show, surehe's?
He switches between football inthe fall and then wrestling the
rest of the yeah he does prowrestling.
Yes, he talks pro, talks prowrestling, sometimes wrestles.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
But I called him the hot to a girl of sports.
Yeah, elaborate on that.
It's because it's like he'sthis very energetic went viral
for maybe all the non-sportsreasons.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Because he was just a kicker for the cult right he
was a punter.
Punter, okay, might have beenboth.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Possibly didn't even score points but it's not, he's
not tom brady with a podcast.
It's not like all these nbadudes that like you know, have
podcasts and they, you know,have the rings and they can talk
about the good old days orwhatever this is just a dude
who's just got a real, a lot ofenergy and people like it yes
you know, I, I would, I would, Iwould.
I don't think he's like a flashin the pan type of thing, like

(10:41):
hawk to a girl is I, do, I, youdon't think that we're getting
to a point where we're kind ofwatching him like his third, I
think like college footballseason going, like he's just
kind of like a kid with adhd, Imean he is I think what I told
you earlier was like and I had avery, very wild, uh comparison
to it but I do feel like he kindof represents the college bro,

(11:03):
college football bro, like afootball head guy, the people in
their 20s, 30s and 40s, maybe50s, that just are the dudes.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
He's like every dude that's out with his friends on a
saturday, drinking beer,talking football, talking trash
and stuff or whatever you knowlike he represents that guy and
I think that that's why peoplelike him and I think he's such a
different breath of fresh airfrom like the you know suit and
tie kind of stuffiness that ESPNhas had in the past.
You know forever that I thinkit it becomes off as a fresh

(11:31):
cause.
He like curses and stuff on hisshow and stuff and like they
just let it slide.
Like this.
This would not have existed, youknow, pre COVID by any means,
and I podcasting he did.
He had his own show on youtubeand then they put him on espn
and and he got on wrestlingreally big.
So I think he's just built thiswhole thing around his
personality.
So it could very well crash andburn, I think, like you're

(11:51):
saying, but I think right nowit's just that fresh breath shot
in the arm that espn and andtheir likes kind of needed and
it's kind of keepingquote-unquote cable tv alive for
them a bit.
You're describing 2016, donaldtrump.
Yes, that's.
That's literally that's thecomparison.
I literally said I was likepeople, like what he says.
He's a little brash.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
He's not a politician right he's not.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
He's just not a regular sports guy.
He's.
He's played the sport, he knowswhat it's like.
He's telling the truth, damn it.
So that's that's.
I think that's it.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I think that's it's without all the like you know
questionable past and stuff likethat means we should, means we
should say that Pat McAfee isprobably a far more ethical
human being.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I would say so Zero felonies, zero so far, to my
knowledge.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
But yeah, I like what you're saying.
Maybe he's just good forviewership, but I'm more looking
at him like is he the 2024Donald Trump, not the 2016 one?
Are we kind of looking at him,going like gave this a shot, but
I could see him going for alittle out of the cage.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I could feel him going a little further.
I could.
I could see differently than aDonald Trump.
I could see him actuallycrossing a line where they
actually go.
That's too much.
We got to pull you back.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I mean, I don't have to apologize for some stuff
already in the last year orstuff but like, and it's
whatever that's just being on TVnow and being open to social
media.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
You to social media.
You're gonna say something thatoffends somebody and you have
to like, yeah, make amends forit.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I get it, I get it no , I mean like no like I'm not
bashing pat mccaffey other thanhe's one of those other
celebrities that started apodcast and buried ours right,
you know so um kovid killed usthe numbers started to go
dwindling a little bit when thekelsey brothers came to town.
Oh, my gosh.
Why are we even talking?
Forget sports.
I'm out of out of it, we'redone.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
So we're done All right, welcome back to the
podcast, everybody.
You probably clicked on the16-minute mark or so because
it's tagged as not sports.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, tagged as not sports, which we probably won't
do a sports segment every weekbecause I don't have a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
That's fair Other than my family's dragged me back
into fantasy footballreluctantly a terrible time.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
We haven't even started.
Somebody asked me and I waslike that's too much.
The season hasn't even startedand I'm already having a
terrible time.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
That's just sports in general is misery.
I got the first round pick andI drafted CeeDee Lamb and then
10 minutes later my mom goes.
He's not even signed to theteam.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I'm like what he signed piece of paper.
He is All is well.
He should be fine Until theCowboys lose again.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
So, other than sports Corey, what do you want to talk
about?

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I want to apologize to our friend Peyton Guthrie,
who has an OU podcast.
Please still be our friend.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Listen to that they know 16 minutes.
Just imagine what four guysthat actually know college
football are going to give you.
Go listen to that.
Through the keyhole, throughthe keyhole.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
They're going to talk up sports way better than we
did.
They do a great job with it.
So, moving on to our moreexpertise.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yes, yes, films, films, cinema, corey.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, so, nick, I don't have a lot of social media
.
I got rid of Facebook in like2008.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's healthy.
I never went back.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I think my wife created me one just so she could
say married to.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Oh okay, corey Williams, I've sent you stuff
and you never respond.
I don't even have the passwordto it.
Oh okay, I've never checked it.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Now we know she just wanted it to be like I am
married to this guy.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I promise he's real.
I promise they want you to haveall this stuff that says your
name and like that proves you'remarried, and they literally
said like you're not even onfacebook.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
It was part of the thing.
It was like you're not facebookofficial.
Yeah, it was literally withoutsaying it.
They were kind of like wouldlook really good if you had a
facebook and said married it'dbe great if you had your
linkedin setup and all of your,your background.
It was wild, but yeah, sothat's.
I do have one, I've just neverchecked it in the last you don't
have enough inspirationalquotes on your instagram I'm
sorry you gotta bump those baby,those numbers up.
Those are rookie numbers I lefttwitter because it's gross.
I have instagram, you do.

(15:30):
The problem with instagram isthey created their own twitter
and it automatically like it'sthere yeah it's like there's no
instagram without threads yousigned up for, you dove in.
Yeah and so I I clicked on itand I'm kind of back into it.
I'll probably quit.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
You're one of the few people that actually like
committed to threads, likeeverybody tried it for a week
because that was when it was hotand Twitter was like falling to
pieces and everybody's likeyeah, and then they're like, oh,
this kind of sucks.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
So threads is like it's almost the opposite of X,
twitter, whatever we're callingit.
Sure, and it's like it probablygoes a lot more to left than
the far right that X getsaccused of, which I mean.
At the end of the day, it's allalgorithms.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
It's all algorithms and what you're liking.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
And some people are just sadist and they just like
their own pain.
Yeah, they just want theviolence of all that stuff and
you go and you argue with theNazis.
Then the Nazis are going toshow up.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
You're looking to be in a bad mood.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, and so my threads, luckily, I mean, it's a
lot of like, I mean, most ofthe political stuff's just about
Tim Walls being adorable.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
And then it's mostly movie stuff, okay, and so I go
through it a lot and just again,like I brought up at the top, a
lot of rage bait, a lot of likejust asking stupid questions
just to get engagement.
Sure, but I'm like that's mostof the internet and my thing is,
I will often respond to thesethings and never hit send.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
that's the best way to handle it.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's like I said what I said.
But then I'm like who cares?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
because then you don't have to get into an
eternal argument with somebodyexactly and I said, cory, you
have a podcast, get out of herecowardly, like just with all the
cowardice in the world, attackthese same questions without
them being able to respond.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
They'll never know they'll have to find us no to
know, and we're not even onthreads I don't think I mean we
are.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Oh, we are.
Do we do anything?
We try to All right.
There's too many social mediasto keep up with.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Okay.
So listen, I'm pulling a lot ofstuff from threads for this pop
culture podcast that we'redoing now for the time being,
love it.
Love it, even know the legalramifications of saying names,
but someone said honest questionuh, has this been an
exceptionally poor year forfilms?
And I was like you know what?
We're wrapping up the summer,sure you know, which is when all

(17:31):
the blockbusters all the bigmovies summer blockbuster season
and so, nick, you are stilltrying to keep the movie theater
alive.
God bless you, I'm trying.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Thank you, um, and so you go I would argue no, I no,
I think it's.
I think it's just.
What are you?
What are you saying?
Are you the type of personthat's just going to watch the
IP movies, the Avengers, the DCsof the world, the Disney stuff
of the world, like theregurgitated stuff?
Like, yeah, you probably lookat it and go most of the ip

(18:01):
stuff, like I don't feel likeit's been.
There's not one that sat on melike, oh my gosh, this was just
trash.
You know like this is just amonumental failure.
Like marvel took a break.
Like they only ever released,you know, deadpool, wolverine
this year, because they realizedlike oh, we're kind of screwing
up here.
Like even star wars just has,like the acolyte, which already
got all the hate, it got thisthis summer.
But like you're you're talkingabout, like maybe the worst

(18:24):
egregious thing was like kongversus godzilla versus kong.
But people, just we got twodifferent versions of kong.
One was a good movie and theother one was just like if you
want to see crazy stuff, like asaturday morning cartoon, that's
right up your alley, you knowlike you don't have to watch it.
But at the same time, I thinkthere's plenty of stuff on the
lower end that like it's's justa matter of access.
I feel like like there's a lotof movies I haven't got to see

(18:46):
yet because I was like, well, Iwant to see that but it's only
playing in Dallas or somewheretwo hours away and I have to
wait until it gets on digitaland by then I kind of forget
about it.
So like it's one of those wordslike at the end, what I've seen

(19:07):
and what I I've looked atfriends reviewing movies and the
movies I've seen, I woulddisagree.
I think it's been, that's been,a good year for movies.
I think I.
I don't, I can't say thatthere's been like just a 9 1999
level of like output, but Idon't think it's a bad year okay
you know what was a was a badyear.
It was 2020 because there wasnothing Like.
When we go back to that you'retrying to look at like the top

(19:27):
tens and all that stuff, it'slike there's nothing here.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
It's like movies like studios had on the shelves.
Right, they're like I guesswe'll put this out, we'll just
drop it on digital or something,and see what get they even
existed acne movie.
Screw that.
No one wants that and you'relike I would love that I really
wanted.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
There's a legal procedural drama with john cena
and the coyote.
I hate listen zavloff orwhatever his name is, like he
can just need a new plague.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
He needs.
No, no, no, no, we can get back, girl.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
We tried, we tried that, we tried that.
Um well, all right, of the 24movies that I have seen thanks
to my letterbox, you've gotthing, you've got.
You got Deadpool.
Wolverine, which I thought wasjust fun.
Twisters, what's okay.
Furiosa is a mixed bag.
Planet of the Apes had a solidedition.
You've got things like you know.
Challengers, which is kind oflike an indie hit.
Godzilla, the Ghostbustersmovie, which wasn't as bad as I

(20:23):
thought.
It's still very much like a, alegacy sequel, like it just has
the symptoms say all thosemovies again those are all the
big ones.
So you've got Deadpool,wolverine they came.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
It's number two right now.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Twisters.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Twisters is number nine.
Furiosa, furiosa is 15.
This box 18.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I'm sorry, is this box office?
Yeah, okay, currently sittingat 18 challengers challengers
okay, that's gonna be down it'sgonna be down 28 actually, never
mind ghostbusters.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Ghostbusters was 14 monkey man.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Monkey man's like 48, but that was really good.
That's one I think people havemissed out on yeah uh, you have
the roadhouse remake that wewatched together um, I don't
know that it has a box office.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
It probably doesn't.
It was amazon but you've got.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
You've got things like that little gems that got
lost on streaming, that are okay.
But then you've got smallermovies like the drive-away dolls
and love lies bleeding and lisa.
Frankenstein dune 2 came outthis year love lies bleeding was
awesome, it was sick.
Yeah, I loved it so much.
But yeah, like I think it'sjust, and that's just the movies
I've been able to watch thisyear.
Okay, so I would disagree, Iwould.
I think that's just people it'sthe same thing all the time

(21:22):
like oh, we don't have it asgood as we had it before.
The movies are bad.
It's like sorry that the moviethat touched you like in a good
way, was like has not come outyet, you know, like has engaged
you enough okay, all right,that's fair no, I mean what are
your thoughts on it?

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I don't go to the movie theater anymore, but the
movies you watch like I, just Icall it dead and gone.
Man, it has to be something,just an event to bring me up.
I went and saw DeadpoolWolverine because I was like
this is going to be an eventwith a lot of spoilers that are
going to be on the internet intwo days.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
If not immediately.
And I mean I think I saw themon the drive home, yes, so I was
like all right, cool, I'm goingto go watch this.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
It was a good time, I'll say this I just genuinely
do, I think it was even more funthan the three Spider-Mans.
And that's a taste thing.
I think Deadpool, Wolverine wasmeant to be a crowd pleaser,
just a fun.
It's a comedy.
It's a buddy comedy.
Spider-man was trying, it wasaiming for like a little bit

(22:16):
more serious, like kind ofEndgame tones, but just.
Spider-Man, you know, yeah, andpeople between then and now,
like there's just been a mixedbag, depending on how you feel
about all the movies that havecome out, and people are sick of
multiverse, like they've said.
Like there's been some rumorthat Sony wants the next
Spider-Man to be a multiversestory, but Marvel's like we
wanted him to be a groundneighborhood Spider-Man movie

(22:39):
because we literally left himlike that in the last movie.
Yeah, and like that's been ajoke that's been online of.
Like they're just saying, uh,they're making this and it's
like we're making, uh, godzillaversus kong and it's going to be
another multiversal story andpeople are just like god.
I'm sick of this yeah, I thinkpeople are done with it, but
you're also thinking about likelong legs is a big deal, like
people were like I don't knowthat much about it, you, you got
23, yeah, city sweeney withimmaculate, and then, uh, the,

(23:03):
the can't find it shamalon cameback with trap.
I think a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
It was successful trap actually came in pretty
high.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
It was uh 31 already and it's a pretty new movie, so
there's stuff there.
I just think it's just a matterof going out to see it.
You know your max scenes forhorror people.
You've got civil war, like ifyou, I think that was apparently
like just an underrate.
Everybody was kind of like,okay, this was good, but there's
just, it wasn't mass.
But yeah, I think it's justfinding what you're looking for.
All right, let's do it.

(23:33):
Nick.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yes, we do it every episode anyways, the top 10 of
2024.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
So far.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
At the box office.
So far, number 10,.
It ends with us I know nothingabout it other than Blake
Lively's in a lot of trouble.
Oh, is that the one where she'slike dating yeah to
interviewers or something Idon't know.
I can't keep up with it.
Nine Twisters, eight Kingdom ofthe Planet of the Apes.
Seven Bad Boys Ride or Die.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
That's in the top ten .

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yes, how does Bad Boys keep doing it?
I don't know, how is Bad Boys 3, bad Boys 4 Life if Bad Boys 4
is just called Ride or Die?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Listen, corey, it's infuriating, it is it's
infuriating.
It is it's infuriating.
You know how I feel aboutmistitled movies.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
So all right.
Kung Fu Panda 4 they didn'teven try with a clever for
Godzilla Kong.
New Empire.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Dune, part 2.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Despicable Me 4, deadpool, wolverine at 2 and
Inside Out 2 came in at 1 theInside Out one.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
I haven't seen it.
I've heard really good thingsabout it's just and I loved when
it broke a billion dollars.
Everyone's like like, I don'tbelieve that.
I'm like.
I mean, it's a Disney Pixarmovie based on a previously
really good one.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
And there's nothing else in theaters, allegedly so,
the general audience is going tobe like, well, I can take my
kids to see this.
I can't take my kids to Arrakis.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Wait, why can't they take them?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Because it's Dune.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Oh cartoon, oh yeah, it's, it's serious art, sci-fi,
art, cory well, like, let's talkabout this for a second then,
because I think this is aninteresting concept, because we
do.
Someone asked has this been anabysmal year, which is like I
would tell that dude, I don'tknow, I guess for you, but I
guess it depends on how you takein movies are you just like.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Film is like objective or something yeah, I
subjective.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Subjective, excuse me it's almost like I'm an idiot
or something yeah, well, no,it's just like most people
approach social media as anobjective art like it's like
well, I'm right, this is theonly way you can view this thing
because, uh, I think it'sinteresting because it is just
go see what you see or wait forit to come to your house you
know, like I plan on rentinglong legs sometime this week.
I never saw it in theatersbecause I was like it'll be on
amazon and you.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
You have accepted the role of patience I have
absolutely accepted.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
I mean again if there's like an event, I'm gonna
go yeah like something withthat's gonna have heavy spoilers
, blah, blah, blah.
Then sure I'll go, but anythingelse I'm like I can wait and I
can just rent it for $20.
The second it hits Amazon.
It's a little premium thing andI'm still saving money then
going to the movie theater, youknow.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I would say there's just hasn't been as many bombs
like for like every Argyle.
I haven't seen like one whereit's just like this, just sucked
well, apparently mad maxfuriosa is a flop.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, I mean, it made 170 million dollars, but it
didn't blow up cost 300 million.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, I didn't blow up like it, like mad fury road
did at all.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
So but uh, but that you know.
Whatever, I think george milleris just a one-on-one-off kind
of guy well, you think he makesfor every good movie makes a bad
yeah, I think he's just, Ithink that's just really been
his life this was.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I told people this was him trying to make like his
warm piece in the mad max world,because it's not just a front
to end like action chase movie,it's.
We're gonna expand and goaround and we're doing this
whole chapters thing and we'regonna look at it from different
people's perspectives and see ifwe're building the lore a lot
yeah and it didn't always go theright way, like some stuff just
didn't make sense yeah, no, Ithink I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
It I didn't love it.
I.
I hated it.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I liked the exploration of the world.
But there were things where Iwas like, well, that doesn't
make sense and that doesn't helpfury road at all.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
So I just think it's a prequel.
It's a failure.
Um all the big moments, wenever got the big moments.
So anyways, we're going to talkabout this.
I saw this on threads.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Okay, so Dennis Quaid's made a movie called
Reagan Right, which is probablyjust a bad year for it.
I have no idea what DennisQuaid's politics are, to be
honest.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I would say he's probably conservative.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Maybe, I don't know if he's an outwardly.
But his son's Jack Quaid, who'ssuper, not.
He's in the most liberal TVshow like satirical TV show of
all time, right now the Boys.
So I mean, are they just notspeaking, or is he just a?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
cool conservative that's like I'm a son of a son.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
He takes Meg's side of the family yeah maybe I don't
know what Meg's politics are,but either way we made a movie
about one of the more notoriousconservative republicans of
ronald reagan yeah, and releasedit in an election year, so the
critics gave it an 18 rottenscore.
Sure it's got a 98 audiencescore on rotten tomatoes, yeah,

(27:48):
which is wild.
That is an 80 percentdifferential yes in taste, so
wait.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
So the audience loved it 98 oh you know.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Now, of course, rotten tomatoes has changed
something.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Now, where things don't get certified fresh, it's
like a popcorn meter yeah, likeyou said, it's like a hot thing
like if the audience is like it,it still stays like fresh and
rotten with the critics it'scalled a popcorn meter.
Yeah, um, apparently apparentlyqu is an independent voter.
He says he's always been.
But when he voted for Reaganback in the 80s and apparently
he said like that, they took myhippie card for that.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
So he?
The quote of the title of thisarticle from USA Today is he's
saying he's nostalgic forliberal Republicans.
So maybe he just kind of ridesthe line a little bit.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
either way, I think it's like one of those things
where now everyone's saying likeall critics are bashing it
without giving it a shot becauseyou know chances are if you're
a pop culture journalist you'reprobably left yeah, you know, on
some degree sure you know, youwent to a liberal arts college
journalism degree, so you'reprobably mad.
There's a ronald reagan movieand that or that conservatives
are review bombing.
Yeah, the other side justsaying excellent, and they

(28:50):
haven't even seen it.
You know, they're just likeit's about reagan.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Can't go wrong well, I think there's also something
to say about, not just becausereagan's an extreme example, but
think about twisters.
You saw twisters?
Right, yeah, like I would callthat I.
I wouldn't call it aconservative movie, but I would
call it a mid midwest kind ofheart of america, friendly movie
you know what I mean because,like it's, it's a country-filled
soundtrack, like it's it'staking place and filmed in

(29:14):
oklahoma and so you're gettinglike that heartland kind of like
mindset.
It's very much aiming for thatnerve and pulse and I think
that's why a lot of peoplereally like, liked it and kind
of came out for it yeah, so Ithink you're getting.
They're.
They're figuring out that thereis a conservative side or just
a more like rural side ofmoviegoers well, yeah
conservatives see movies rightthat's the thing.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
I think that's the thing people forget is they may
not go see george clooney, right, they're not.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
They may not go watch .
Like you know, love lies,bleeding or something, but
they're like I'll go watch ashoot them up or something like
I would love to watch love liesbleeding with.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Like just a conservative, oh my gosh just a
textbook conservative.
That would be wild, like noteven an extreme conservative,
because I just feel like they'dbe like well, I like the guy
with the guns and the gun range,but there was a lot of lesbians
there's a lot of interesting,crazy stuff going on in this
movie because it would just bereally a conservative have to be

(30:08):
torn by that movie.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Right, got this weird second amendment thing going,
but then it's very like I satnext to like this very old, like
couple in no hard feelings byjennifer lawrence and like it
immediately made meuncomfortable because it was
like I was watching it with mygrandparents and it's like this
raunchy r-rated comedy like andit has heart and it has moments.
But there's definitely momentswhere I was like I'm trying to
just pretend they're not here,but I feel weird sitting next

(30:29):
them, sitting right next to me,so I'm like jennifer lawrence,
just runs on screen butt nakedyou just hear the old lady.
Yeah, but I think they had agood time, I think they enjoyed
it.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah that's good, but like it is interesting and,
like you know, mainly thethreads thing with this whole
reagan movie is that, like well,they want it to suck, so
they're just like well,obviously, what I see is like
they're like, well, critics knowmore, like they're obviously
educating this and I'm like,yeah, stupid Cause if it cause.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I mean, if you think about it from the perspective of
a very, from a very, veryconservative people, like they
have been regurgitated fordecades now, like that Reagan's
the best, he's the best thingsince Lincoln or or since Trump.
I like they kind of deified hima little bit and so I my

(31:15):
curiosity is like how real, howtruthful, how accurate is this
movie like?
Is it just like a feel-good,kind of like small budgeted
movie where, like, reagan savedamerica, kind of thing, where
everybody and everybody's verylike hoorah about it without
diving in?
It's kind of like bohemianrhapsody that they didn't really
touch too hard.
They go too hard in the paintwith, like, his drug addiction,
yeah, the hiv stuff, like they.
They touched on it but theydidn't like make it.

(31:35):
They didn't really dig, digdeep into it.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
That's because the people surrounding it well, yeah
, like I mean you can, you canget like stupid movies that are
like whatever, like are theygonna just tell you the lie you?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
know, whatever blah, blah, blah, it's the whole
fallacy of the biopic, because Ifeel like if they had made, if
it was, was like if you know,todd Phillips or somebody on the
left side was like I'm gonnamake a Reagan movie.
It would just be.
They would be like they'rebastardizing my hero, they're
making him out to be a villain,and it's like I mean, you know,
it's kind of not incorrect.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
But see, this is where I come back to the whole
reason for doing this is likepop culture's kind of curse.
Now it is it's like you can'tjust go watch a movie no and
that's like what I would tellpeople.
Just go watch reagan if you'remad that it got an 18 well, on
the flip side of it, like justgo watch it on the flip side.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Think about the acolyte, like it's a star wars
content thing.
Its whole press leading up toit was that it was this very
liberal, these liberal peoplewere writing it.
Some of them had never had evenlike watched star wars before
they were writing their.
The head lady like worked for,uh, weinstein or whatever.
And so people were like whydoes she get?
Why does she get this job?
because she didn't really haveany experience before that other

(32:38):
than just, I guess, hanging outon movie sets yeah but then,
like when you watch the show,you're like, oh, this is just
like all the other star warscontent that's live action.
It's like for every like littleglimpse of like oh wow, that
was actually really cool.
It's just a stretched out, kindof boring, not the best written
thing on earth, so like youjust have to pick and choose
what you like about itinteresting and now they've

(32:59):
canceled it and half the world'slike thank god.
The other half that actuallywatched it's like well crap, I
wanted to see where they weregoing with it.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
But there's, those are two different halves they
are two because I texted you Ihaven't, I haven't watched.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
You asked me a lot.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
I said I said when it came out, I saw a bunch of like
this is dumb, it doesn'trespect the lore.
There's literally a line in oneof the prequels that like
completely says none of this canhappen or something.
And then as soon as it gotcanceled, it's like all of a
sudden Star Wars social mediatook a reverse and said don't
take it.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's the schism we've had since Last Jedi Corey.
Like you have people that arejust reactionary had since last
jedi quarry.
Like you've had you have peoplethat are just reactionary and
the second they see somethinglike they may have started the
show, they may have watchedhalfway through and they just
see something they disagree withand go that's not true, that's
not canon, that's not real.
And then you watch the rest ofthe show and go oh, they kind of
explained that so it's so it'sjust, it's that schism of
reactionary people versus peoplethat actually gave it a chance

(33:48):
and going.
I kind kind of wanted to seemore, like if you asked me I'd
be like I don't care if you makeit again.
I kind of would like to seewhere this might lead to Knights
of Ren, or like getting to seePlagueis actually on screen Deep
diving some Star Wars here foryou.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
That's what I was going to say You're in a whole
world of stuff I liked Deadpoolv Wolverine.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
It just took the piss out of everything.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
It felt like a movie that just said like screw any
opinion about movies.
Either you're going to justhave fun with this or you're
going to overanalyze it Right,yeah.
My threads for weeks was justlike people trying to find
potholes in a movie aboutmultiverse portals and it a
comedy.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
it's like making fun of it portals and a bunch.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
It had 1000 deadpools in it.
Right, it's like why are youlooking for logic in this?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
well, it's the cinema sins of it all, like we've
talked about before, like peoplehave just we've, we hyper
analyze everything instead ofjust going.
Yeah, I enjoyed that likeunless you're just like a super
deep star wars nerd or like abig cine what we could send a
file or something like like it'snot gonna make that big of a
difference.
Like you watch a movie withsomebody that isn't as obsessed
as we are and they'll go.

(34:56):
Oh, I kind of like that, thatwas fun and there may be
something they didn't like, butthey can't quite put their
finger on it, but they're justgonna straight up, be like it
was fun, I enjoyed it, it wasgood.
They're not gonna go.
Well, it just broke the loreand I didn't understand the
structure.
And the third, and I'm like,yeah, no, but not everyone
thinks this way like there's amath to it but.

(35:16):
And that's why, like we, deepdive it, but general audiences
don't aren't aware of that, orat least not on the depth of
those levels.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
They just want to be entertained yeah, and like I, I
guess what I'm trying to say islike I mean like first of all,
the whole dead bull wolverine,those type of trying to find
plot holes, things.
That just bugs me as someonewho tries to write which it's
like that's dumb.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
All right.
First of all, 90% of the thingpeople call plot holes are not
plot holes.
It's just like we just don'tshow you everything.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Again, the biggest thing in the world is like, well
, how did Batman get back intoGotham?
It's like camel he rides it toan airport, pulls out his credit
card, or you know, that's themovie that people want to see,
cory and it's just like no, it'sthose type of people that, but

(36:01):
it's all.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
It goes also back to the type of people that are like
I need to see every beat ofeverything.
Like I need to see them get outof the car, walk into the
building, go up the stairs, getinto their room and I'm like you
don't need that.
That's not how movies work.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Like it's it's fine we don't have to fill those gaps
.
It is wild and like, and butlike, I guess.
What I'm trying to say, though,so it's like, is this just
maybe possibly just an electionyear?
That's like hyper, you know.
You got all this hyper likepissed off about the acolyte
because it's got asians andblack people's jedis yeah,
that's not, you know, they'rejust mad, you know, and it's

(36:33):
because trump's got them goodand mad about dei that became a
thing you know it's like, oh mygosh, all these jedis were just
hired because they're black.
They don't even have the forcenick, you know.
But like or is this just wherewe're going towards movies?
Everything's got to it's now.
We have to analyze it.
I think it is.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I think we've done it to ourselves like everything's
been politicized, everything'sbecome and.
And the dumb thing is that youlabel it as politicized, but
it's like, most of the time it'sit's not a it's not political
for me is hey, we're passingbills, we're electing presidents
and senators and stuff.
It's not.
Should black people have theright to vote?
Yeah, like, that's a moralconundrum for me.

(37:10):
Like, should gay people beallowed to marry?
That's a moral positioning,like you know.
Like, but it's but.
And you have, you know,conservatives or just christians
that might sit there and go.
No, it's against our beliefs.
And then you have people like,on the other side of going.
I don't have those beliefs so Idon't care.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
You can't dictate a government, right?

Speaker 2 (37:26):
that's the thing it's like, yeah it's like we it's,
if the country is about beingequal rights and everything.
As long as these people aredoing something that's just
depravative or something likewhy do you care?
Yeah, I don't want to get intopolitics, For example.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
it's just like this Brad Pitt, George Clooney, they
have a movie coming out.
You know, and people arealready saying like oh, people
hate it already.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
And it's because, george.
Clooney is super left and theydon't like that, and then Brad
Pitt has not been punished forhis like history he's got away
with.
Apparently something happenedwith him and angelina and the
kids on a plane or something andnow there's and that's why they
don't go see him it's like,okay, he's a bad dad got it like
which just goes into the wholeargument of.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Like me personally, I can separate art from artists
right.
Like I don't know brad pitt, hemight be a sucky dude to hang
out with for all I know yeahlike I he.
All I know about him is thathe's pretty and so like and he's
pretty good at his job yeah butlike for the most part I'm just
kind of like okay, well, if hedid get drunk and like hit a kid
or hit like that's not cool,like that sucks.

(38:25):
You're a bad dude, yeah youshould probably have to answer
for that, but I'm probably stillgonna watch fight club
everyone's while right that is agood movie.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I'm I'm gonna like still enjoy his work there it's,
it's a week, I think it's toeach person.
There's like a scale you sitthere and go like okay, he got
drunk and his wife, yeah, that'skind of shitty of you, but I
still love this movie and Icould separate it.
You get some people like kevinspacey that allegedly, you know,
did things with kids and stuff.
So you sit there and go, uh,yeah, I don't ever want to watch

(38:52):
a kevin spacey movie again,just because it gives me the ick
or something or this makes meuncomfortable.
And then other people like,well, he was, he was uh relieved
of all those accusations andstuff.
And I'm like, yeah, but I'veheard other stories from direct.
Like me personally, it's like Ihave heard firsthand stories
from people that have interactedwith him, just happening to be
in that world, and so you'relike, okay, either they're lying
or you know, something isn'tadding up, yeah, but it's still

(39:15):
just kind of like he's, he's got, it's tainted now it's like,
okay, if it's kind of like youasked me earlier, like would,
are you still willing to go tochick-fil-a?
and I'm like I don't care, it'sjust chicken.
Like, if I had to, if Icanceled every bad restaurant
for doing a bad things, Iwouldn't go eat anywhere yeah
you know, well, like, do youthink there?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
well, let's call it the michael jackson line okay
where you can be so famous andyour leg legacy can be just so
massive that people just itdoesn't matter what you did.
Now me personally, like I'mjust like michael jackson got
held in the court of law.
They never got found guilty ofanything I'm going with them.
It's whatever, but it seemedlike that documentary.
A lot of people poked holes init.
That's whatever, but like atthe same time I'm like I don't

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dig too deep in it because I'mlike bad.
Still a really good album.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Danger's better than bad and thriller I'll say it
like it's just the better album.
Oh, my goodness, that's justgonna get us canceled.
Hot take.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
But like, like, um, so like.
Do you think there's a linethough?
Because that's, I think that'slike.
Sometimes, like in the last fewyears, you have brad pitt, this
stuff's come out.
Did he do it?
Did he not do it, johnny?
Depp did he do it did he not doit but people are kind of like
yeah, but it's brad pitt andjohnny depp and they're kind of
I feel like yeah, I think thereare, there's there's throws
kevin spacey in the garbage thanit is brad pitt and johnny depp
.
There's like, there's still.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
That's like from a from a hollywood exec mindset.
You look at brad pitt andjohnny depp and go well, not
everyone's turned on them,there's still money to be made.
You look at kevin spacey gogive it 10 years, maybe, maybe.
I mean he got a leave of allthis stuff, but people still see

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him as a serial predator typeperson.
Yeah, you got michael jackson,who has been absolved of all
that from a court point positionaccusation of the worst thing
you can do, right.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
And then most people don't even survive the
accusation, right.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
But he, but he is so big.
There's a small constitute ofcelebrities, actors, musicians
that are in that group.
You've got Michael Jackson,probably Elvis, now probably
Taylor Swift.
We're like Michael Jordan.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
We're like, they're just so they've been put into
mythical yeah borderline deitymindset by their fan base and
their fan base is so strong.
Yeah, like that you can like.
It's been like the thing withtaylor swift, like with her
flight patterns and stuff.
Everybody's going well.
This is kind of gross thatyou're just doing this to
maintain a relationship and butthe swifties will like come for
you and they'll be like she'sinnocent, she's perfect, she's

(41:42):
done nothing wrong.
I've seen some of that comedown a little bit, but I think
the majority of people are stilljust diehards, like beyonce's
groups, like the beehive, allthese people like you're seeing,
like I mean, it's the samething with like trump to an
extent, like he's he's been, youknow the all the stuff that
he's been uh, what's the termI'm looking for?
that he's been accused of butbut he would the court.

(42:02):
They found him guilty of it orwhatever, 34 counts and people
are still just like nope, I'mstill gonna go for it.
So I think there is a level toit where you're like, whether
you're a politician, you'remusician, you're basketball,
like people will deify you andjust be like and just kind of
put a blind eye to everything.
Because, because it's kind oflike you said, I think a lot of
people go well, I don't withtrump.
It's like, well, I'm gonna voteconservative anyway with you.

(42:24):
Know if, michael, if, if peoplehad an issue with michael
jordan's gambling, they're gonnabe like, yeah, but I like
basketball and I like thechicago bulls winning all the
time.
Or it's like michael jack'slike, yeah, but I really like
his music.
So there's a lot of things thatget passed because of what
they're doing or what whatpeople's opinion of them is, or
how it the value and impact ithas on their lives okay, no, I
just think it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
I've always thought about like it seems like maybe
there's a line that once we hitwe're kind of like a little more
forgiving or we try not to lookso hard.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I think it's harder like everyone below that is
definitely stuck in cancelculture, like I mean.
Johnny depp has not made anamerican movie in years now he's
probably not going to.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
He's probably not going to.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
He's like being like he kind of he's like being
really hard about it.
Yeah and it's, and when youlook at like everything that
happens, like he was notinnocent in the situation, like
it's just a messy situation onboth ends, but like at the same
time, you're like how manyrelationships like it's put on a
pedestal because they're moviestars, but like how many people
do you know down the street thatare probably doing the exact
same thing?
Which?
And we aren't going cancel them, get rid of them which is

(43:22):
interesting.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Every once in a while , you'll come across a post that
says hey, here's your reminderthat mark walberg committed hate
crimes when he was 14 when hewas 14, which?
Is interesting because, part ofme, this is where I want to
engage with someone, because I'mlike, well, that's a stupid
comment, because, like markwalberg, as an adult proved to
just be a pretty just, he's anactor.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Like without scandal.
I mean, I'm sure he said somestupid stuff, like everyone has,
but like he has for the mostpart not done anything racist or
you know since then beenmarried to his wife, his whole,
like as far as.
A-list actors go.
He seems like a pretty genuine.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
It's kind of dull, almost like boring for a dude
from Boston Right, he seems likea pretty genuine, it's kind of
dull, almost okay, he's kind ofboring for a dude from boston
right criminal record.
Yeah, you know, and that's thething is like think about when
you're 14, like how many dumbthings you said.
Like we go back 20 years backto a time when the words gay and
retard were just in thevernacular yeah, people just
said something was lame, right,you know, it's the michael scott
joke.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
I don't mean gay like it's a gamut.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Gay isn't lame, you know like now, and that's the
same stuff that like, if youposted it on myspace or facebook
or social media, someone, if wegot famous, they dig at him and
go oh, he said this and it'slike okay, I might have said
that, but I've learned that it'snot okay to say that and I now
have like an understanding of itwell, it's interesting because
now we're talking about adifferent line, where it's like
the line of like untouchable tolike almost, where, like once

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you become famous, the crosshaircomes on yeah

Speaker 1 (44:40):
where it's like.
My thing is is like you couldtell a story about just your
neighbor.
Right, who, man he?
You know, your neighbor, they,uh, he or she had just a rough
upbringing, you know, they gothooked on drugs, blah, blah, end
up in jail and they've come outand they've gotten their life
together yeah, just technicallywhat mark walberg did, right,
but because he's famous, it's'sno, fuck Mark Wahlberg and he
shouldn't have a career.

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But if you're not famous, it'slike that's an inspiring story.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
So it's almost like it's just weird Again
everything's just turned up to11 when it comes to celebrities.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
My question though, nick, as we wrap this up is,
should I analyze more things, oram I okay, not analyzing so
much?

Speaker 2 (45:16):
I think it's healthier mentally.
I just want to just watch moviesand music and be like, yeah,
I'm sure someone was problematicwas attached to this I think,
as two people that are part of ateam that watch movies, analyze
them deep dive, I think that'sthe pitfall with any type of
YouTube influencer thing is thatyou get too far into the weeds.
It's like my professor incollege said once we started

(45:38):
doing video stuff he's like oncethe curtains pull back, it's
hard to just enjoy it for whatit is.
Yeah, and that's something thateven I've just tried to get
back to is like I don't want towalk into every movie and just
start hyper analyzing it, LikeI'm going to just turn my brain
off and enjoy Godzilla punchingGod's King Kong.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Yeah, again again.
Go see Wolverine right likejust enjoy.
It has no message other than,honestly, comic fans are dumb
right.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
It just kind of makes fun of it's like but it's
giving you like which.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
It's like okay here's a lot of fans you wanted, you
wanted, you wanted.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Like all these versions of Wolverine from the
comics, all these team ups,these pop-ups, the Fox Studios
superheroes make appearanceslike congrats and if you're mad
at us for spoiling any level ofthat like it's been out for six
plus weeks if you're listeningto this, you have the internet.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, already, it's already been spoiled.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
There's clips every day.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
I still see gambit and all that stuff yeah, I mean
ryan reynolds started putting itout two days later he's like
all right.
So in case you didn't see, thishere it is, here's the
cavalrine or whatever it is, andso, like I don't know, I just
think it's wildly interestingbut sure and mostly just
philosophical.
But I don't know, I'm probablyjust gonna keep trucking along
and like I'll probably just beable to separate things from

(46:50):
things.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I feel like I've been able to.
Okay, like I think I thinkthere's it's kind of like when
we talked about star wars in thepast, like I just have to
observe it as a saturday morningcartoon yeah and I think that
that's.
You have to know what you'rewalking.
Am I walking into a franchisesequel of a movie?
Then I shouldn't be looking forshakespeare.
I shouldn't be looking like ifit makes, if it, if it becomes a
dark knight, then that's justicing on the cake, you know like

(47:12):
, but if it, but just goingknowing this is a superhero
movie, this is a mad max movie,this is like if it becomes
something better than it was,that's great, but if but, it's
still just monkeys punchinggiant lizards yeah, no, no, I
agree.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Which, by the way, um the other godzilla movie minus
one one.
Yeah, yeah, that came out thisyear, last year end of last year
, so it's really.
Yeah, that's what I mean, likeI cried like you to say.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I'm not trying to say like these genre movies aren't
capable of becoming rising abovetheir, their standard.
Yeah, we've seen that inmultiple genres and stuff lord
the rings, the dark knight,godzilla, minus one like there's
a, there's a place in time forit, but there's a place to have
for both yeah you can stillwatch minus one and still watch
the new kingdom and be fine, youcan watch your old planet of
the apes, even the sequels thatcame out all through the 70s,

(47:58):
and then still go back and watchthese four new ones.
And there's a difference there.
But it's just it's, it's your.
It's like when Batman firstcame out, when 89 came out,
everyone loved it.
And then the Schumacher movies,everyone was like you've ruined
Batman because it was our onlyBatman, yeah, but now there's
like four or five of them.
So now it's like just pick andchoose your poison.
Like you want serious batman,go for baylor pattinson.
If you want a little bit morecomic book, you go for keaton or

(48:20):
schumacher.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
If you really want to dive off the deep end like, um,
no, no, I I agree with all that.
I think it's just, it is.
It is wild.
I saw, you know, just wrappingup, I saw a post the other day
and it was literally asking hey,what did you all do with your
harry potter books?
Did you all get them away orburn them, which I was kind of
like burn.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Burn them, because JK Rowling is JK.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Rowling, and she's not a huge trans person.
She's problematic.
She's problematic, you know,but at the same time it's just
kind of like that's a famousperson with an opinion, but
you're also talking that'sdifferent than your opinion.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
You're also talking about someone who wrote these
books.
They were worldwide success.
The movies were worldwidesuccess and to it's to me it's
more a person trying to stayrelevant and it very well might
be because she hasn't been ableto create the next thing.
The next thing, yeah like thenext best thing was the stage
play that they made of apotential eighth you know, story
years later that they'llprobably turn into a movie at

(49:10):
some point, because that's howip works now.
But yeah, with rolling, it'sclearly because, like she was
saying stuff like I alwaysenvisioned, hermione is black
and it's like then, why wasn'tshe black in the movies?
Bro like or things like that,and then I I haven't deep dived
the whole trans thing, but atthat point it just becomes you
want attention and I don't wantto give it to you.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
I think she's a person that had opinions about
trans people in sports yeahwhich I think is an actually
good gray conversation yeah likethere there is science you have
to like.
I mean, I just think it's anactual conversation we're in
uncharted territory when she gotyeah like it's one of those
things where I think it's likenot someone being like just
horribly hateful yeah, they'rejust literally like thinking
about that.

(49:49):
Well, imagine being the womanthat worked her whole life there
and then some dude that justtransitioned into a her all of a
sudden beat you like that's gotto be.
Like she was asking thosequestions which is like that's a
hard.
That's, those are hard, reallyscary questions because people
are going to come at you andstuff like that.
But then she just kind of keptdigging her heels down a bit oh
she doubled down and now she isinto just like I'm an asshole
okay, like territory and I think, like you kind of nailed it, I

(50:11):
think it's just like a oh, beingan asshole makes you relevant
and people you know well, butapparently like that boxer that.
Uh, what was the boxer?
Turkish.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
The girl, yeah, the female boxer, that everyone
called trans, and she's totallya woman.
Just a woman, yeah, Likeabsolutely, just 100%.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
A lady is suing them.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
It's like suing JK Rowling and like Jake Paul and
you know and all these dudes,it's the whole like freedom of
speech but not freedom fromconsequences.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Well, yeah, I don't think freedom of speech is a
weird thing.
It doesn't mean you can justsay whatever the hell you want
all the time right you know,like you, there's consequences
for certain things you say ifyou want to bash libel and
defamation.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
You want to bash a certain demographic of people.
You can't be mad when thatdemographic suddenly hates you.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, and they're like, hey, that's defamation and
like you call, like that's on aworldwide scale you know, like,
so, like, for sure, like.
But my thing is this I thinkit's stupid to go to the
internet and say to what levelshould I be mad at something?
It's like dude, figure that outyourself.
And I think that's where I getfrustrated is people kind of let
social media feed their opiniona little too much on?

Speaker 2 (51:06):
these things.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
And it's kind of like don't.
If you want to keep your HarryPotter books, keep them.
If you don't want them, get ridof them.
And at this, point.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
It's like you said.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
So she's already got your money, right.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
And it's like I think people, especially for the
nostalgia of it all, like wehave so many friends that are
Potterheads and like they,they're still going to go to the
wizarding world, they're stillgoing to buy the books, they're
going to get books for theirkids, like they're invested in
the story.
They're not invested in JKRowling.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
It's not like they're like what's words?
Like I can separate the artistfrom the art and I think people
should respect that.
Yeah, I think if any of ourfriends say like well, I'm still
gonna do that or I'm stillgonna go see if they didn't make
an eighth movie, whatever, likecool, that's fine and you can
openly say like well, I justdisagree with jk rowling's dumb
opinions, but I still thinkharry potter's cool yeah, you
know all the actors are like.

(51:55):
We don't like jkK Rowling rightnow.
They're like yeah, screw her forthat.
That sucks.
But then like if our other halfof the friends said like well,
I'm not going to put any newmoney in because that goes to
her and I disagree, I willequally respect that I'd be like
nah, that makes sense.
But it's stupid to be like, hey, the stuff I already own,
should I burn it?
Should I get?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
rid of people because they like a thing it doesn't
mean that.
That doesn't straight up meanlike unless they're straight,
like, no, I agree with her, thenyou can be like well, I don't
agree with you.
So yeah, there's a problemthere but that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Even we live that on our normal podcast of like hey,
nick, I think mel gibson wouldbe really good in this role.
Am I allowed to say mel gibson,or are people going to be mad
at me?

Speaker 2 (52:33):
you know, I think it's that's the thing it's like.
We have to have room fordiscussion about it so I mean,
I'm all for discussion.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I just don't go to the social medias and say what's
my opinion on this yeah justlike form, your own, like either
you hate what you said, or youdon't hate what you said and
maybe you're a pro.
It's the kind of thing we'vetalked about.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
It's like some conversations are just not built
for group chats or just theinternet in general, like they
are conversations you have faceto face, because context is lost
, tone is lost like, that's forsure so it's just it's.
It's the type of stuff you'relike.
I would rather talk about thisin person with someone, then
argue with some stranger on theinternet yeah, and I, for all I
know I may be totally wrongabout JK Rowling.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
She may have said something way more egregious
than it's possible, you know,not defending her, I just think
she said something that was okay, and then she doubled down and
got into way not okay territoryand that's.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
And at that point you go okay, dude, you're just
being dumb, you're just beingstupid, yeah, but that's just a
thing now.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Well, you got any other opinions?

Speaker 2 (53:27):
not at the moment, okay I did watch uh, evil dead
rise from last year.
I know you hate the evil deadseries.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
I despise the evil dead.
I kind of liked it, but Ihaven't seen the two new ones.
I liked this one, I just hitplay on random the other night,
and but I haven't seen the twonew ones.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
I liked this one.
I just hit play on random theother night and but I found
myself enjoying it a lot Iwatched, uh, I watched bike
riders how was bike riders?
Bike riders was great.
Okay, I finally came out Idon't know it.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Just it came through theaters really fast.
People hate it.
It's whatever it's.
Just because it's kind of a, Ithink people expect it to be a
biker movie like in the realsense of like a lot of hyper
violence and stuff.
But really it's just like it'shonestly just the story of the
fall of the american biker gangand from like this thing that,
like some 50 year old dudes,just started yeah or, like some
middle-aged dudes, started inthe 50s as a way to hang out and

(54:11):
then it's kind of slow descentinto what would eventually
become like the gang problematic.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah, like it feels like a template of like
goodfellas it is yeah, just withbiker guys a little bit, which
I'm not 100 mad about yeah, Ilike dawson butler I also
finally watched.
Stay tuned, cory did you really?
Why don't?

Speaker 1 (54:29):
we talk about anything else you should just
brought.
Stay tuned up.
We hit another solid hour and ahalf sorry.
Sorry it was, but I enjoyed it,it was, it was crazy, it was so
much fun.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Like oh it's, it's.
It feels like a movie.
I was like this was made in 92,like it.
This should have been like astaple of childhood for it was
for me, I don't know.
I think you had to have, likehbo I think I typed it off a
free weekend of hbo, okay itjust felt like, yeah, I felt
like a lost movie and I was likethis has all like the music
swims are cool, like there isn'tanything that's like super like
, like adult about it oranything like the kids are

(55:00):
involved in it.
I'm like where did?

Speaker 1 (55:02):
this go don't suck, the kids don't suck.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, like sean ritter, terry gar, that really
problematic dude right, yeah,yeah, the principal from fears,
bueller, has been canceled.
Yeah, he passed away too, didhe what?

Speaker 1 (55:14):
uh, no, he did.
What's his name again?
I mean beetlejuice.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Beetlejuice killed him off but I don't think he's
dead.
What was his name?

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Ferris Bueller's Day Off 1986.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
He was actually convicted of something, Right?
Jeffrey Jones.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
He is.
No, he's still alive.
He's still going, he's stillkicking 1946, 77 years old.
So lost his spouse in 2008.
That's all I've got to say.
He's 6'4.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Wow, but yeah, no, that's a great movie, so I'm
kind of mad you watched itwithout me.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Sorry, I have to just spur the moment, these things.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I wanted to watch your face when it goes animated.
I was like what it turns intoan animated movie.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
They're mice it's, dom and Jerry, and that's when
they really have a lot of deepconversations about their
marriage.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
As mice it's when a lot of the actual fixing of the
relationship happens is whenthey're mice.
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Everyone's like.
What is this movie?
It's called Stay Tuned, JohnRitter.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
The devil sells John Ritter a satellite.
Yes, and he gets sucked into itand he's a couch potato, right,
he's like that typical husband.
He's not even listening to hiswife.
Yeah, he's quoting movies.
Yeah, he's literally us likehe's just obsessed with movies,
you know.
But we have balance.
But yeah, like it's nownormalized that everyone's
ingrained in pop culture.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
He's like the catalyst he was.
He is just the guy that in in amodern context, you're like
this guy isn't that far off froma lot of people.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yeah, like we can quote move I'm making my wife
watch how I met your Motherthrough right now and she is not
enjoying where it's going, andI get it.
You're watching a movie or ashow from 20 years ago where
it's like, yeah, I guess allthese people are sort of
hateable, but in their own ways.
But I will literally quotesomething and I haven't seen the
show in like 10 years.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
But it's there.
But that's what John Ritterdoes in the movies.
He's quoting movies and hiswife's just pissed.
She's like ah movies.
So she breaks their satellitedish but then the devil shows up
and sells him one.
But it sucks him in and whatthey have to survive?
And it's like hell programming.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Yeah, like if they get out and they survive 24
hours.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
They get out, yeah, if not the devil gets their soul
Right and all the programming'shell based and warped.
There's like Wayne's World, butit's hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
I was like this is why I can tell this touched
Corey's funny bone a bit.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
I love it.
It's so good and John Ritter'sa national treasure, so I love
John Ritter.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
He's definitely underrated.
I feel like people forget abouthim.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
He's amazing.
I was really sad when he died.
It's fair.
But no, okay, alright, I'm gladyou watched it.
Stay tuned, yeah, I'm glad.
Let me ask you this becausethis might go into next episode
Are you watching Rings of Power?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I started it last night, but I was, it was late
and I fell asleep, so I'mprobably gonna have to restart
it, okay cool.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
We're probably going to talk that next time, because
people are furious.
They've been furious.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Okay, I didn't know, since it since the jump off, I
just know that apparently, likeI mean, you hate rise of
skywalker oh, yeah, and I'veheard rings of power just pull
the rise of skywalker to somedegree it might have.
I don't know so and I'm just,I'll see so cool, we'll talk
that next time and we'll talk.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Uh, joker.
I want your opinions on thisjoker too, because people seem
to already hate it out the gateand I'm like I'm not.
It looks amazing to me.
Then again, I don know.
I think people might label meas problematic for liking Joker
movies.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
But no, we'll talk, that We'll talk a few other
things.
And maybe we'll dive into musicnext time, because you're.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
There's some big news on the horizon.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
There is, we'll be able to talk about that.
Your weird favorite band,Linkin Park, is going to say
something.
An announcement will be made.
And it's amazing, nick, you'reborn what?
88, 88?
I was born 85.
The amount of cultural shiftthose three years have huge, is
massive.
I don't give a shit about animelike fuck, dragon Ball Z, all

(58:54):
that stuff.
Pokemon I've never even held aPokemon card.
I don't know what any of thatis.
You missed the boat.
You just missed the boat.
Nick's generation, just threeyears later.
That is their world, man.
They know everything about itand I'm just like what?

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I will try to explain like things I'll be like.
It's like Dragon Ball Z.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yes, y'all send memes all the time, but I have to
like sit there and go.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
So, cory, explain these memes.
Y'all saying that have dragonballs.
I'm like what is this?
I don't get the joke.
But then, yeah, new metal.
You were big into like that newmetal stuff and I had.
But I had, I had a level oftaste, though I wasn't full into
it like there was.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I had a line cory, like.
I just remember the glintbiscuit album being huge in
middle school, and then peoplefell away.
Oh yeah, because so like, and Ithink your generation grabbed
it it was.
It was a very quick rise andfall, so but like I think y'all
latched on and I didn't so much,so I'm excited to hear whatever
Linkin Park's gonna say.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Cause I know you'll be excited.
I'll be excited or I'll befrustrated.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
I'll try to come up with more music-based topics
next week.
Okay, sounds good, awesome, allright, yeah, we talk about
random stuff.
And it's great and mainly it'sjust going to be a place for me
to complain and Nick to keep megrounded.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Sure, that's my job, that's what I try to do and vice
versa.
But I mean, make sure tosubscribe.
We're still on social media andstuff.
You can keep in touch with usthere.
If you want to support the showmonth, it's, it's the non, it's
, that's the only committal partof it.
We'll try to send out somefreebies and stuff when we can.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
but for one dollar you can support the show, yeah,
and get nick's air conditionerfixed, hopefully, yeah, a little
hot one today.
We hot box this episode thathas a different meaning.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Cory, yeah, oh, really, yeah, it marijuana, oh
okay, no, we didn't hot box, theepisode.
What is it?
Sweatbox, sweatbox, yeah, yeah,yeah, okay, all right, that's
what we did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
We're both naked covered in sweat it's kind of
like a vision quest thing.
Honestly, with this we madeevery night, with this could
have all been a hallucinationgot a wrap up.
All right, thanks for listening.
We'll see you next time.
Say goodnight Nick.
Goodnight Nick.

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