Saturday Night Live: 50 Shades of Fey

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Speaker 2 (00:00):
1975, I am 35 years old, I am divorced and I live in
a van down by the river.
Hey, what's up, hey, what's up.
Hey, what's up, hey, what's up,hey, what's up, hey, what's up.
Hey, what's up, hey, what's up,hey, what's up.

(00:21):
It wasn't enough.
Somebody got on the air and Ican see Russia from my house.
Who's that player?
It's my middle back.
I got a fever.
The only prescription is for acowbell.
Should I say live from New York?
It's not.
Saturday night it's Tuesdaynight or live from Nick's

(00:44):
bedroom.
It's.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Quantum Recast.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
So yeah, hey, so welcome to another episode of
Quantum Recast.
Yeah, we could have had justshots of our hometown and then
like a weird it's.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Tuesday night in Oklahoma, and just pictures of
us to a saxophone solo yeah, butwe're not.
I think Allie plays saxophone.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
We could have had her .

Speaker 1 (01:06):
We could have had her .
What are we doing?
We could call her.
It's just freezing.
It's just icy weather outside.
It's just freezing cold outside.
Allie, you got five minutes Getover here.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
So yeah, it would be no fun, but yeah, so this is
Quantum Recast.
If you clicked on this episode,we're actually going to talk
about television.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
What's the?
Some movies thrown in?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, wealways find a tie-in.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, yeah, we will talk movies, but we are
celebrating the 50th anniversaryof saturday night live that's
right you know they just had thespecial two days ago on sunday
night for some odd damn reasonwell, they wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
You know, they just made it a wrestlemania weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I mean, I get some days when you have big things
because nothing else is on andall they competed with was was
an abysmal all-star game.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, you know, nobody's watching that anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I will watch the Saturday stuff.
I'll watch the dunk contest.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, that's all the good stuff.
Yeah, because the game sucks.
Now.
The game's boring.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
What was it Like?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
30 minutes of basketball in a three hour, mr
Beast and Kevin Hart justdancing around doing dumb stuff
oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Kevin Hart apparently was just obnoxious live thing.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, we, I watched the concert and then I watched
the show, like and so it was.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It was a good weekend .
It was friday night was the snlconcert, yeah, which was really
cool.
Yeah, then saturday was thegood part of the nba all-star
game.
But just the the skill stuffand then sunday night was the
50th anniversary special.
Yeah, which was like threehours.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
You did it well you know it was a good weekend.
You chose well.
You know if you knew how toplay it, if you watch the
all-star game.
I'm sorry, we apologize notthat we had anything to do with
it, yeah, no, no, I mean thatyou made a decision and you
chose wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's true so, but, yeah, um, we wanted to uh talk
saturday night live, um, becausethey did make movies.
Um, you know, there are moviesthat spring yes from saturday
night live and we'll talk aboutthose, but mainly we want to
talk about the show um it.
The fact that it's gone on for50 years is really impressive.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
It is kind of crazy.
I mean, if you look at it like,if you think about it, like
Saturday Night Live and you knowsoap operas and then wrestling,
those are the three things thathave probably lasted the
longest on television and theSimpsons and the Simpsons Excuse
me, they get thrown in there.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
And so, yeah, I mean it is interesting, you know,
because I think the Simpsons isthe longest animated show.
Yeah, oh yeah, and I don'tunderstand, because they have
all these things.
Like you know, wrestling sayswe're the longest episodic show,
but I'm like WWE hasn't beenaround for 50 years.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
No, they haven't.
Not on a weekly basis.
No, not at all.
So are they lying?
I mean, it's been SpickmanCorey, or is?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
it because Saturday is not prime time?
I guess Because it's not justMonday through Friday is
considered the prime time.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think that might be part of it.
So.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Saturday Night Live is just the longest we're on the
weekend.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Right, Like we're here when you should be out
doing other stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But how damn impressive is that.
Can we talk about that?
You've got a show that's goneon for 50 years on Saturday
night when most people are notat home watching TV.
Right, that's kind ofimpressive it should have gotten
canceled immediately.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
We say you're not at home, but once you get into your
30s and stuff.
What are you really doing?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
on the weekends, it's true.
You're like, oh gosh, it's 9.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I'm going to ease up to the couch, get a drink of my
choice of beverage and justwatch some bunnies yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
It is wild to me that , like that saturday night live
has been like around for 50years, considering it did choose
one of the weirdest nights tohave well, that was the whole
thing.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
It was a dead spot.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Well it's yeah, that's the thing.
It's a dead spot because mostpeople are out not watching tv.
No, that's why likeeverything's on sunday nights
you know, like the oscars andbig events and wrestlemania and
all this stuff chooses sund.
They're like well, people areat home.
Yeah, there's nothing else onTV.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Exactly Because they have work the next day.
Here's an excuse to watch TV.
Like that was.
It's become a cliche thing oflike your parents would sit down
and watch their favorite TVshows.
Like there's all these CSI,firefighter, cop shows.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
They only exist because the boomers are still
watching cable television, corey, you know, I called my parents
on it the other day because I,like you know, I'll go to their
house once a week for dinner andusually I don't know.
This time of year we just cameout of football season.
We're usually there Sunday orMonday night, so usually
football's on, okay, but therest of the time it's kind of
like nothing's on TV.
But you'll see ads for thingslike 9-1, ncis.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Bolivia Chicago Fire.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I asked my parents do y'all watch any of this?
Because my dad's in his 70s, mymom's in her 60s and they're
like no, I'm like.
Well, who watches them then?
Because you're like the targetaudience.
I was like, if y'all aren'tdoing it, who's doing it?
Man?
But yeah, but Saturday NightLive Came out October 11th 1975,

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which is impressive.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
It is, and you haven't seen the Saturday Night
movie.
Not that it's required viewing.
I haven't watched it.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yet I was going to see if my mom wanted to watch it
, because this is a weird thingthat me and my mom share is a
love of Saturday Night Live.
She was a teenager, she was 15,when it came out.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
And so she.
You know, when something's onfor 50 years though, it's like
you have eras and you have likeyou're in and out of it.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Well, it's like wrestling again.
Like yeah, there's a hot timeand there's a dead time.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, and like I mean , like I've, I'm in a dead time
of wrestling, I just can't watchit.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Which is sad.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I tried watching Royal Rumble recently and it was
just kind of like oh, there wego, and so like it's not for me,
it's for kids, and I get madthat they don't do what I want
them to do.
So that's the problem.
And so they want to sell JeyUso merch.
I don't want it.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
All right, we've got to get back to mainstream, back
to mainstream.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
But like you said, it is kind of like when
something's on that long long,you you're like.
I watched it during this timeand then the eddie murphy years,
the will farrell years, thetina fey years you know, and
like I think people fall in andout of it and so um, and we're
in a streaming age now and Ithink it's all on peacock yeah,
I will turn it on and I willwatch it and like um, and I'll
just find random episodes andstuff.

(06:37):
And yeah, there's good episodes, there's bad episodes um, but
yeah, it did start in 1975.
The original cast was uh,lorraine newman, okay, john
belushi, jane curtain, uh, gildaradner, dan akroyd, garrett
morris and chevy chase.
So that's the original cast.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Um, you probably recognize half those names, half
of them because um they uh,half of them went on to a lot of
bigger careers yes um, likenamely chevy chase and dankroyd
and Jane Curtin, gilda Radner orJohn Belushi like died young
obviously yes, yeah and so, buthe was just on the, not even the
cusp, Like he was a big star.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
He was a huge deal.
He was trying to break kind ofinto a more serious Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
And so you know, but he died young.
And so he probably would havebeen a bigger deal.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, that's the thing.
He had been such a big enoughstar that he had reached that
point in his career where he wastrying to break out of the
shell of being the funny, fat,drunk guy.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
And you know it's interesting when you talk about
Saturday Night Live because in aweird way it's kind of like
this revolving door of like, ifyou want to be like a comedian
yeah or a comedic actor or workin comedy.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
It's like you can go here, but you but your kind of
goal is to transcend it, rightat some point yeah you're kind
of like I need to move on it'slike you're a stand-up comedian
or like you do some writing orsomething and then you get on
the show and then, yeah, yourgoal is to try to become bigger
than the show apparently it'sreally rare to be fired from snl
like I can only think of like.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
I mean, obviously, like Norm Macdonald was famously
fired for making OJ Simpsonjokes on Weekend Update and I
think like there's guys likeChris Parnell and stuff that
like was like a weird budgetarything, like during slow.
I guess or like you know tighttimes, but I guess for the most
part it's like you most people,most people leave on their own
because they want to dosomething different, or someone
like Robert Downey Jr.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
that's just like.
This isn't for me.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, that you know who's, I think, ranked the worst
cast member of all time byRolling Stone magazine, which it
was like that was 10 years agothat they did it.
I don't know if they did anupdated one, but I think for the
40th anniversary.
They ranked him last.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, he apparently admitted to having a miserable
time on Saturday Night Live dueto his lack of experience in
improv comedy, so he had comefrom the film background, but he
just struggled to have anychemistry with cast members.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I believe it.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
And that was so.
Have you watched anything fromthat era I?
Haven't I have I learned RandyQuaid was a cast member.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I saw that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Because I went to that year and was like I'm gonna
watch some of this yeah andlike it's actually hard to find
robert.
Robert jr wasn't like, uh, whatthey called like a rep, it was
like a repertory, yeah,repertory.
He was like a featured yeah, helike, wasn't like in a lot yeah
, maybe that's because he sucked, probably at improv comedy.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Well, you get a lot of people that like are fighting
to get on more screen time allthe time.
They're like I'm not gettingenough from like my stuff is
getting picked.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, you have repertory players and featured
players yeah, so like repertorymeans like you're one of the
primary individuals that's goingto be, you're a key player.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Well, I don't think that's the case, because I don't
know these names of the currentcast ashley padilla, emily waki
, emilio joaquin and janewickline.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
They're not well, they're featured, that means
they don't show up a ton.
Yeah, you know, jane wicklinewas on there recently and she
was really funny like I meanI've seen some of their stuff,
trying to recognize her um shedid like a weekend update, like
song or a song weekend update.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
That was pretty funny oh okay, yeah, it's like I
recognize her and so like.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
She's a featured player, and featured means like
you're just kind of show upevery once in a while kind of
like you're a test cast member.
It's like, hey, we have spotsokay you're not going to be like
necessarily have a lot writtenfor you.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
You're hourly, you're not salary.
Yeah, kind of thing, okay.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
And so it feels like RDJ was probably a featured
player his season because I havegone back and watched it and
it's kind of hard to find hisstuff.
It's a little hard to findAnthony Michael Hall in a lot of
that era too.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Again, didn't know he was on the show.
Yeah, that same year both kindof bounced out I kind of want to
watch a movie about that yearof snl, like I need the sequel
to saturday night of where it'slike they're in the doldrums and
they're just pulling all theselike randoms that don't really
belong or they're not prominentyou can watch johnny be good,
that's, they're both in thatmovie.
Okay, it's a football movie,that's right.

(10:38):
That's right.
The hall plays against type.
It plays a star quarterback anddown he's like a wide receiver
or something.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
It's a.
It's a pretty fun movie, but uhno, it is weird because, like
the 80s are kind of consideredthis weird, like atrocious time
for snl well, you think about ituntil the acroyd murray, eddie
murphy, chevy chase.
They're all in movies in the80s eddie murphy is 80 to 84 but
apparently he carried snl onhis shoulders from 80 to 84
because Because I haven'twatched a lot of those years,
the older SNL material.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
But when he came back for I guess their 40th or 45th
and he finally came into publicagain, that's what everybody's
like he saved SNL, he was theshow and you're like, yeah, I've
seen the Gumby skid, the MrRobinson and stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
So it's like, if that'sl went like, can we
survive losing the last of ouroriginal cast?

Speaker 1 (11:32):
you know, and so it'd be like jordan leaving and not
having kobe bryant and shaquilleo'neal and tim duncan right
there and iverson waiting yeah,because it's like I think there
might be one overlapping seasonof Murray and Murphy, you know,
but that would have been like.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think that would have been like ones last year,
another first year like 80.
But like because I mean a lotof those dudes only did a short
amount of time.
Murray was only on there likethree years.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Because that's kind of the thing, like like, when I
think about these big names theBill Murray's, the Eddie
Murphy's you wonder like well,they didn't seem to do snl, you
know, yeah, because you likelook at and you're like well, I
know them from their movies more.
Like he he was also murrayjoined in the second season in

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77 and until departing the show1980 so really 80 is murphy's
first.
Yeah so it's kind of crazy thatI mean, but that's kind of the
thing you become a big you.
Snl is really just a chance forthese comedians to showcase
their personality and theirabilities.
So like, if you're hot, likeyou're going to get a check or
an offer for a movie, probablypretty quickly.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, you know, like Saturday Night Live, it's very
much a zeitgeisty thing.
It seems like perfect thing,perfect time.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
You know it's 1975.
And weirdly, Nework city in1975 was a cesspool bankrupt
crime ridden right and it's wildthat this thing happened there.
That said like hey, move here.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
And like try to be a part of this thing, you know,
but like it's it's, it's wildbecause it just felt like it was
so counterculture in a timewhere you really needed like
counterculture.
Counterculture was just kind ofthe thing I mean the 60s are
dead, but like, there's justthis group of like avant-garde
type of things that likesurvived it.
You know, you had CreamMagazine, you had Rolling Stone
Magazine still going, andSaturday Night Live is kind of

(13:13):
like the visual version of bothof those things.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Sure and like between it and like Second City in
Chicago, like, and I thinkdidn't some people from Second
City come over to SNL A lot?

Speaker 2 (13:22):
of people from Second City and the Groundlings, which
is the Groundlings, canada.
I'm not sure that was SCCTV.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, scctv was.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Canadian Groundlings might have been like LA or
something.
You know.
There was all these like improvpockets, you know and then I
think SNL kind of like.
I hate to keep going back towrestling, but they became the
WWE.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
They said like, okay, we're just going to pull from
all the territories and we'regoing to be the main thing you
know, because I mean they'relive, and they're in New York
City.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, Like they're on network television.
The Groundlings did start inLos Angeles, so that's so you
have Second City, Chicago.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
You have SCTV or whatever in.
Canada and because that's likewhere Moranis and like John
Candy and those guys.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Second City Television is what it's called,
so it wasn't.
So it's not Second City, butit's not Chicago.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh, maybe SCTV was Chicago, I don't know, but I
know what you're talking about,because, like Maybe just a lot
of Canadians went down toChicago.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well, no Commonly short to SCTV.
Canadian Television Sketch Show.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Spaced in Toronto, offshoot from Toronto's Second
City Troop.
Okay, so Second City might havejust had multiple places, yeah
it moved to American TV, whereit aired on NBC from 81 to 83.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Oh, so Canadians invaded.
So Saturday Night Live, that'sa competition, that's right.
A little WCW In a time whereSaturday Night Live was probably
in the doldrums a little bit.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
It probably was just a bit.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
But yeah, I read a book by a guy named nick de
similian, okay, called wild andcrazy guys, a few years ago and
it is kind of like this oralhistory.
I mean it's not reallynecessarily interviews, but like
it is kind of like chroniclinglike that era of comedian from
like chase and murray and stevemartin to eddie murphy and kind
of like and belushi and kind offollows their careers.
And it starts a lot with likeobviously they were saturday
night live, but it talks a lotabout how most of those guys you

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get to a point where you'relike I don't want to just be
this and I want to be somethingbigger and it's.
It's wild how many of them saidI'm gonna go try drama yeah,
yeah you know, like belushitried it murray, murray tried it
and almost quit acting.
See martin tried it, chase triedit, they all tried it and then,
eventually, the whole nature ofthe book is well, they came

(15:27):
back around to comedy, becausethat's what they are well, it's
also like it's.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I think the problem is you're on tv on a weekly
basis or half a year basis andthen you are known as this
comedian.
Like people just know you asyou're the funny guy, yeah, the
funny thing.
So it's really hard to breakthat mold.
I go no, no, I can do like.
I mean adam sandler kind of didit you know punch truck love.
Uh, uncut gems like he's shownlike oh, I think.

(15:50):
But I think in the modern timeswe're much more open to that
concept.
I think back then, even like itwas just like no, you're the
funny guy, what are you?
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
like yeah, no, and I think that's true and I mean
it's probably just, uh, maybe amore social grasp of mental
health that you yeah it's hardto be the funny guy all the time
that's a burden, um and so, butlike, uh, I I do think it's
interesting that that was kindof a recurring theme, um, with a
lot of them.
You know that like hey, I wantto go try, you know, to be taken

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seriously, and it's kind oflike almost you're on saturday
night live until you resent itwell, I mean think about the
turnaround.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Like they don't write these things over the summer,
they, they.
It's a crazy, it's like southpark they've got one week to
figure this out.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, you're like, well, uh 52 weeks a year by the
way he's hosting.
So we got to find skits thatwork for keanu and he has to be
in keanu, has to be down for theskit, yeah and it's, and it's
kind of wild because, like Ididn't realize until like I,
obviously because of this, theylike put out like a four part
documentary on Saturday NightLive.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
On Peacock as well and, like the first episode, is
just about like the five minuteaudition.
Like that's apparently what youget an audition and you have
five minutes.
Lorne Michaels is one of them,and then there's like two other
people.
Some producers or something,yeah, and you just have five
minutes like, hey, you're notgonna be on the show, but like

(17:06):
you can write like spade.
Uh, mulaney, a lot of thosedudes audition to be on the show
and then they're like, well,you can write, and then if you
do enough time writing, youmight work your way up to the
cast or something it's kind ofcrazy.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Like uh tanner brought up a lot about working
for smosh and that kind of feelsthe same way like he.
He worked in from the crew sideof things as assistant director
and was slowly trying to justnaturally, without forcing it,
be like hey, I I went to schoolfor acting, I've done this, and
he like offered to like helpcoach some of these like the
talent on their camera becausethey're not trained actors.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
They're just people that got got into video games
and streaming right and you knowthey're pretty so it's, it's.
It's like a, that's like theold school, equivalent to what
they were doing, at least even10 years ago, which was like
just trying to get on youtube'smajor platforms and so I mean
it's wild that you have thisthing that's still going and I
mean I mean I think it's alwaysbeen able to repackage itself
and I think maybe that's thebeauty of snl is that it?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
does have a revolving door that these people outgrow
it that is kind of the birth anddeath is kind of in the cycle
of.
It is kind of good for thatshow because it's eras you have
your eras Well, like wrestling.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
You get a guy that stays there too long and stays
on top too long.
I'm Coke, oh, cogan, and thenit's boring.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
It's boring and you know and you need like these
different eras, and I think thatway it always seems a little
new, and so I think that'ssomething that's really cool
about it, but also it'sconstantly culturally relevant
as well.
Obviously, it attacks politicsall the time it just makes fun

(18:35):
of whatever's happening becauseit's a weekly show.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, it's a left-leaning show but, like you
had talked about earlier, itdoes its job sometimes also.
I mean it made fun of.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Biden Dana Car incredible joe biden yeah, for
the last few years and he was arecurring character and it was
great and it made fun of thembut, I mean, that's the thing,
like they're left leaning but ittook shots at everything yeah,
because that's what it'ssupposed to.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's a bit like like south park's, a similar thing,
like they have a shortturnaround when they were doing
like their full seasons and itwould be very topical and very
when.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
It was good, it was great yeah, and so and I mean,
and so I it's wild like so Iguess, like nick, just to ask
you, did you, did you grow upwatching this, or is this it?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
was more for me.
It was more like I knew what itwas.
I knew it existed and, yeah, Iwas trying to think about this
earlier.
I guess in middle school, highschool, it was still kind of a
thing I wasn't post to watch,maybe.
Or there was never like amoment where I was watching it
and mom and dad came in, waslike turn off this crap or
something.
But it was.
It was always like on and Iwould watch it.
I remember I remember watchingit's, catching it sometimes in

(19:33):
high school and being like andkind of slowly getting pulled in
then, but that was probably allthe same time I was watching,
like when Anchorman came out orI was watching.
You know, billy Madison andHappyilmore were rerunning on
tbs and stuff you were aware ofa lot of people that came from
yes, I was very aware of it.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, for sure and I think, like you kind of nailed
it earlier when you said it's,it's weirdly almost a show for
people past their 30s kind ofbecause it's like because as a
teenager, it was hard to likewatch it because you're like,
well, I can't be 17 or 18 and belike guys, I can't hang out
because I have to be home andwatch saturday night live
because we didn't grow up instreaming, or unless you're just
a kid that doesn't get to goout.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
If you missed it, you missed it.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, that's true, wild yeah you know and so like,
and I remember when the dvdswere coming out I started buying
them because I was like I wantto watch these and stuff like
that.
But like I remember being on alot in my house because my mom
was a fan, you know, but againit came on late.
So even on a Saturday night Imay not have just been able to
stay awake for it, but I thinkfor me what's weird is it's like

(20:30):
my sister's generation, gen X,really took to it.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, definitely that's the thing Watching the
concert, you really can tellwhat eras really clicked,
because it seems to alsocoincide with the music.
Because the 90s very clearlyrepresented.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
And all Gen x has this music yeah, all the movies
blue dude, I just recentlywatched singles.
Have you seen singles?
Like matt dylan and uh, no, noit sucks so bad and it's like
one of the most culturallyreality bites.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Sucks ass like gen x movies are so depressing they're
trying to do like the, the, thebreakfast club thing Kind of,
but they're like but we're20-somethings and we are cynical
and hate everything and it'sjust like I hate those movies.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
It's a little joy, a little hope going on in there.
The best Gen X movie is aboutboomers and it's called Days of
Confused.
But Gen X has music.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Obviously they had Nirvana.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
They had Grunge, they had this massively impactful
thing, you know, and obviously,indie, indie music kind of came
with Gen X you know as much asGrunge gets all the credit indie
music is this thing that, likeGen X, latched onto, and so
Insider Interlive is that it'sRolling Stone magazine on TV,
and so it is kind of likepretentious and hipster when it
comes to the music stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
And so I remember my sister and her boyfriend
watching it constantlyinteresting, so I saw it a lot
with them.
Yeah, I feel like, if you getinto it, like in a high school,
like, like I could see itbecoming a thing, like, but but
really like college age and nowI feel like is more the vibe
because and even now like I feellike I feel like more so
because of the advent ofstreaming and TikTok and stuff.
Things are like YouTube it'sgetting the reposting, all the
skits that are happening.
Oh you missed it.
Hey, there's this really funnything Jimmy Fallon did.

(22:10):
There's this crazy thing thatPedro Pascal did when he was on
the show, like now it's gettingpassed around more.
So I think it's more accessibleto younger generations Because,
like you said, it's like justbecause it's Saturday Night Live
, it doesn't mean you have towatch it then, like most
programming yeah now.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, I think you will find.
And obviously I think now onsunday, monday, we see the skits
, like if a skit really hits,we're gonna find out.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, like the beavis and butthead with ryan gosling
just went viral yeah, and so itshows that, like saturday, life
still has this weird audiencewhere it just things hit and
they'll go I think it's done thebest job of adjusting to the
times and it's also built to dothat and was able to capitalize
on the shorter the forms we got.
Because, yeah, you, just they,I mean the new episode will drop

(22:52):
and then a couple hours laterthey're already uploading the
clips onto tiktok, onto youtubeand stuff for you to watch and
share with your friends.
Like it's not hard to getaccess to it, whereas other tv
shows or sports, like sometimesyou're like where's this clip?
I can't find it.
And then they're already likeno, no, here it is.
Take it, take it, share withyour friends, share with your
family.
Who cares?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
yeah, and so I did like in.
So it's wild.
I think like it's kind of weird.
As a millennial it's hard tolike because we talk obviously a
lot about being millennials onhere and it's like starting to
like weirdly should have passedus by it should have, but it we
got.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
just so my friends all loved it was the Adam
Sandler era.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
And see, that's what, like my sister in Gen X, that
would have been when I saw it alot, was that 90?
To?
95 era Chris Farley, sandler,chris Rock showing up there, but
I'll say this I thinkmillennials like I think we
claim that cast because we likedthe movies that cast made.
I think that's my point.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
We didn't see the episodes so much as we saw the
movies Other than man Down bythe River.
The things they were quotingwere from Billy Madison, happy
Gilmore, waterboy, coneheads,night of the Roxberries.
It was not the shows or theskits they were based on.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, I mean again, I saw a lot of it, but of course
I was at an age where a lot ofit flew past me you know, and it
wasn't until I got older that Istarted kind of re-watching a
lot of that stuff and thinking,all right, this is funny and I
get it for the time and whateverand like, but weirdly,
millennials also, we kind ofclaimed the will ferrell snl it
was, yeah, it was our, it wasthat was our like it's it's

(24:19):
because honestly it's ours.
Yeah him, tina fey kristen,that's technically ours.
Because we hijack a lot fromGen X.
Yeah, we do, that's whatmillennials do they're like you
didn't want the 80s, we'll takeit, we got it, don't worry.
We'll take it, y'all justwanted.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Nirvana, we'll take the 80s.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
And so, but it is wild and just aware of it, it's
the Beatles.
It's like whether you like itor not or whether you ever
engage with it, you're justaware that it's there and that
it's this massive thing.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Like wrestling.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, like wrestling, but I think SNL might be more
culturally impactful thanwrestling.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Wrestling has yet to figure out how to be topical
without being cheesy or bad.
It was huge in the 90s, man.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
That was more of just middle schoolers having two
shows to watch on monday nightsand most of it now, when you go
back and watch it, it's justgarbage television and so, um,
but like uh, so I think this iswhere we probably need to talk
about the movies.
Okay, so when we talk about themovies of snl, um, we're,

(25:22):
there's two, there's two trainsof thoughts for with snl and
movies, the movies that areadjacent, I think, which is your
Billy Madison's, your HappyGilmore's, your Tommy.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Boy's, your Anchorman's, your Bridesmaid's
Hot Rod.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Because there's cast members that transcended SNL,
obviously, which is sort of rare.
I mean, I would say like interms of becoming an A-list
actor, that's more rare thananything else.
You do have your householdnames.
You have your Sandlers and yourWill Ferrells, you have your
Chris Rocks and things like that.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
And so Tina Fey.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
But then there's also , just like for every one of
them, there's five other castmembers that didn't really
transcend it, didn't find it.
They might have found characterwork or they were cameos in
those movies, but like there'sactually snl movies, based on
skits, so you want the run, giveme the rundown so they were so,
because there's actually notthat many.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I thought there was more there's not like we were
starting to put together like,oh, let's get a top five list,
and I was like cory, there'sonly so many and and there's
only so many good ones.
So you got the blues brothersin 1980, yeah, and then it.
Then it's not until Wayne'sWorld in 92.
Coneheads, wayne's World 2,it's Pat, which I don't.
I've never heard of it.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Probably not going to age.
Well, no.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Stuart Saves His Family.
Harold Ramis wrote it ordirected it.
Yeah, blues Brothers 2000,.
A Night at the Roxbury in 98,superstar Ladies' man and
MacGruber.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, man Are most Superstar Ladies' man and
MacGruber yeah, man are most ofthose not good.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
The yeah the worldwide box office.
The best one it looks like wasBlues Brothers and Wayne's World
.
Blues Brothers got 115worldwide.
Wayne's World got 183 millionworldwide.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
And so like, but like these are movies based off
skits, right?
Or like they came from the show.
Yes, you know what I'm saying.
Like, and so it's wild, becauseyou know, if you watch the 50th
anniversary um episode snlwhich, if you have peacock, go
back and watch it it'sincredible, it's great, it's a
great time and it's and ifyou've never watched snl, it'll
just be a good three hour yeahcrash course in what it was it's

(27:18):
a lot and so, um, their inmemoriam section was, I thought,
the most brilliant thing theydid, because it's like you're
like all right, they're about toshow this really touching thing
about all the actors who havepassed, which there is kind of
an snl curse.
I think there's been eight castmembers that have died before
the age of 60.
Oh, um, you know, gilda radnerwent by cancer.

(27:39):
Shan hooks went by cancer.
Uh, phil hartman was murdered.
Uh, john belushi overdosed wild.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Every time.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I remember, every time he was just like oh my gosh
, he did like phil hartman wasmurdered by his wife, that's
insane um, that is absolutelyinsane, you know, and so there's
like there's a lot that died umcharlie rocket, uh, committed
suicide.
Um, and if you don't know whocharlie rocket is, he's the dad
from hocus pocus.
Okay he was a cast member on snland so um, also the tallest
cast member of snl.
I just found out in research.

(28:05):
I'm like, oh, that's a good,hey, that's interesting.
But the immemorium didn'tactually honor any of them, they
just honored all the horrible.
Like antiquated should getcanceled for things, because if
you're something that's 50 yearsold, you're gonna have stuff.
You had bad jokes at one time.
You know, racist, yourstereotypes, misogynistic,
whatever.
And so they poked fun at thefact that they're so old that

(28:27):
they used to have a lot ofreally questionable.
I like that.
Tom hanks came out and actuallyflipped it on the viewer and
said maybe you're the one whoshould get cancer right, you
laughed at these jokes maybe,maybe it's you, but it's
interesting because everyonereferenced that pat was not in
it, because pat's a characterthat probably doesn't age.
Well, pat was a character Evenbeyond all that.

(28:47):
It was played by one of thefemale cast members and the joke
was Pat is so androgynous noone knew their gender.
You didn't know if it was amale or a female Interesting,
and so it was a lot of hilariousskits, because it's just people
trying to figure it out, okay,and they made a movie called
it's Pat.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
It's.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Pat, and so, and that's the thing, it's Pat, not
he's Pat or she's Pat 1994.
, who was?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
the actress Julia Sweeney.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Julia Sweeney, that's Pat.
Yeah, she was good too, but sothat was one of them.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Obviously, stuart was did you ever see the stewart
smallley sketches?
The only stewart I know isisn't that from?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
uh, get away from me like, look what I can do now
stewart was like the guy, likehe was a recurring uh snl skit
that would look in the mirrorand say you're, you know, like
you're good you're capable,everybody loves you he was one
of the like, a motivational kindof it was a toned down matt
foley.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
He was a motivational kind of like Al Franken, yeah,
al Franken.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
And so it's just funny that.
It's funny to me what theychose to make movies out of,
sure, and all the things theychose not to make movies out of.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Every time now, because we're kind of, I feel
like getting into a good era ofSNL again.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Oh we are.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I'm seeing a bunch of characters where I'm going.
Okay, that could be a characteror or stars.
I'm like they could break out.
They could break out, um, is itdomingo, the, the one that
shows up and sings like itbreaks up the weddings and stuff
?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
yes, they did a domingo sketch for the 50th um,
and it's funny, but, like like,there's a lot of recurring
characters like debbie downerdebbie by rachel dratch never
had what's one of my favoritefavorites.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
But how do you make a movie about Debbie Downer?
I don't know.
How do you make a?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
movie about Pat and Stuart Smalley.
Clearly we learned you can't dothat I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
That's the thing, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Debbie Downer's one of my favorite characters in SNL
ever, and only Rachel Dratchcould play Debbie Downer.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
You cannot redo it.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
No, you Foley the motivational speaker.
I mean like it's just, there'sso many, there's nobody that can
do that.
Church Lady, how did we not geta Bill Sworky or Sworsky in the
Chicago Superfans movie?
I don't.
How do you not have a?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Da Bears or Da Bulls movie.
I mean that's fair, like youcould have had a whole movie
based around them, hoping theBears win like the.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Super Bowl or something, anything, it's just
right there.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, but I think the Domingo one has some legs,
Because like it could just again, you could just even put
Sabrina Carpenter in.
It's like him trying to win herheart or something.
Yeah, I mean, he's prettylikable, A likable actor, and
stuff too.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
To me like, okay, this is weird.
There's something about KateMcKinnon that I don't love, but
she's one of my favorites.
She's a star and the ColleenRafferty sketches are hilarious
to me the Colleen, RaffertyColleen.
She sits with her legs open,smoking and she does her alien
abductions, and she just has anendless amount of euphemisms for
her vagina and yes, and it'sjust she plays it straight every

(31:37):
time and she hasn't reallyfound anything.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
She hasn't found the, the thing that's like we
crucified her for making aghostbusters movie.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
That's true, we're like we did.
She was the best part of thattoo, though like she understood
the assignment.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Like oh, you want me to be weird and nerdy like I
normally am, got it I don't knowhow we didn't have a church
lady movie.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
You know it's church.
You know it's a touchy subject,I guess uh I don't know how and
I don't know how we didn't have, like, the delicious dish hosts
.
They're hilarious and so, uh,one of my favorite recurring
characters for the last justlike 10 years is and I think
they did it at the 50th was, uh,the drunk girl at a party you
wish you hadn't started talkingto oh and that's cecily strong

(32:12):
does that?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
character and it's hilarious every time well, just
looking at even some of the listof things I I was writing down,
like why didn't we have a sarahpalin movie?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
oh, with tina fey, yeah with tina, yeah, that would
have been good, or?

Speaker 1 (32:23):
even uh, david s, pumpkins, tom hanks.
Yeah, like you could have donesomething with that and ran with
it.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
It's just wild that like they landed on pat stewart
in the ladies man.
Yeah, and mcgruber, you knowclearly that run was like, not
like the best, like not beforemcgruber, like that run of
ladies man and all that post,coneheads and wayne's world yeah
, you're just wondering if theyjust chose wrong if they just
chose badly with some of theserecurring I feel like that's,
that's the thing I mean.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
It's you could even have done a californians movie,
even if it's not your favorite,like there's.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
So there's a world that's already been built there
and I've almost wondered, likehow much like it's lauren really
doesn't want to do movies maybebut, like some cast members,
like come on, man, you owe me.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Well, he's like oh well, the half-assed research I
did before we started theepisode.
It just seems like therethere's always a timing thing,
but also like working with movieproducers and getting the story
right, that that the writerslike might want to get versus
what the studio wants and it'shard to write a movie based on
people that are on screen forfive minutes at most you know
it's like there's not really abackstory to a lot of these, you

(33:22):
know, and so I think it's it'sit's wild but, yeah, it's wild
because there is, like thisentire universe of these like
snl adjacent movies yes, there'sonly eight or whatever, and if
you really look at it, it'spretty much every major comedy
that has happened since thestart of snl.
I mean, you go back to bluesbrothers and animal house and

(33:43):
you come forward with caddyshack, groundhog day and, uh, you
know the, the national lampoonmovies, ghostbusters and austin
powers.
You know wayne's world again,like it's just in the will
ferrell run.
All of it's built on the backof their success from SNL.
It's kind of crazy.
Even Eddie Murphy's run.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Oh my gosh yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
You go to Beverly Hills Cop and he becomes a
multifaceted superstar of the80s that's probably only
eclipsed by Michael Jackson atthat point in time.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'm trying to think it's going to be him or will
ferrell.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
In terms of who transcended, the most snl the
most, because even sandler'slike I think you almost have to
look at it like the way youpeople try to look at, like the
goats of basketball is like canyou really compare them or you
can you just only look at themas like the eras that they were
in?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
yeah, and I mean, but I'm just saying like, in terms
of transcending, it just seemslike eddie murphy and will
ferrell became the two biggeststars and then bill murray yeah,
and bill murray, yes, that'strue.
I think like bill murrayweirdly just had like a delay
yeah I'm leaving snl toghostbusters to like embracing
who he was right, you know butlike um, but I don't know, man,

(34:56):
it's just, it's just wild.
And then, like it's hard not tolike, put mike myers in there.
It's just, mike myers is justhis weird genius he, he had a.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
He had a small but significant like the austin
powers run that he had.
Humongous, like everybody knewabout it.
Shrek, shrek, he's shrek, he'sfreaking shrek like you forget
about.
You forget about it, but he'sShrek, he's.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Shrek, but Shrek was being developed by Chris Farley.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
It was yeah, he had been recording audio for it.
Voice over work.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
But like Mike Myers is just the Dan Aykroyd of the
80s 90s.
It's like the weird comedicgenius that was almost just as
good at writing as he was beingfunny.
Sure being funny, sure, and soum, what's weird, is that so?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
keenan thompson.
Yeah, I'm, we're transitioningto that, go on, okay.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
He born pretty much inbred to be a snl cast you
realize he has spent his entirelife in sketch comedy.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yes, and he's perfectly content at it.
He's chose.
No signs of stopping.
No, I would argue his run aslike he was a movie star first,
almost like he got on he was onall that, all that.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
He was on a kid version of saturday night live
and he blew up like he did it,he fast-tracked it, he did all
that.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
He.
Then he did uh, good burger, hedid all of those movies back
then and then start snl and thenI think the only thing he
really did beyond that was fatalbert, and that just didn't
really take off.
He had like a keenan thompsonshow keenan and kell.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
yeah, right, yeah, where it was a show.
It's weird to think that thisguy spent most of his life doing
sketch comedy.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
But he just reversed it kind of.
He almost was like I did themovie stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
It's almost like he wanted to.
His goal was to just be on SNL.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Right, yeah, he's like well.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I'll do this movie until they hire me.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I mean, you wonder, kind of like wait around for a
job popping up.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
And then he's just like I'd rather.
I liked all that.
I'm going to go to the adultversion of all that.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Right yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
You know.
Ok, so that brings me to.
I want to talk about the topfive longest serving cast
members.
Ok so people know now there's afive way tie for fifth place,
which is 11 seasons, and that'sKate McKinnon, michael Che, al
Franken, cecily Strong and fredarmisen they all had 11 seasons.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I would argue kate's the biggest star out of all of
them?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
yeah, probably al franken was a big deal in the
80s and shea, he's.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I guess he's one of the head writers now probably.
But he's just, he does the.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
He only does the weekend I think he only does the
weekend update and he'sincredible at it yeah, him, and
him and colin yost are pretty.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
They're pretty really good yeah, and so um uh no,
yeah, yost, yost and shay arethe head writers as as of two
years ago that brings us tofourth place, which is colin
yost.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Okay, at 12 makes sense yeah, not.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Not hard to be on the show long when you're just the
weekend update guy and thewriter so, uh, and then seth
myers, 13 seasons okay, okaydaryl hammond was 14 seasons got
it and then keenan thompson, 22seasons that's wild 20.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
He's like john stockton with the assist record.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
It's just second place is really far behind and
there's highly unlikely thatanyone's going to be content for
20 plus years to just justdoing snl, but also to stay on
snl like that's the thing likewe talk about, as if it's like,
yeah, just stay put, it's easy,right, ride those coattails, but
it's like he's.
He's done his job as being likethe new glue man, yeah, and
like the straight man.

(37:59):
Every sketch you you watch andyou he's usually in it, yeah,
and every big one to an extentlike, and he's usually the guy
in the background reacting, orhe's just like being the guy, I
mean like being the audienceavatar, just being like.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I can't believe that just happened yeah, it's great
and I love it.
And I think keenan.
I think keenan thompson's great, but I think he's a unicorn.
I do think, because againmichael che and colin yoster on
that list, but again they'remostly the writers right they're
.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
They're not doing every sketch like they're mainly
the two head writers likethey're.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Just they're like the writers and we know how to do
the weekend update type of thing, and so it's, I, it's.
I don't think you're going tofind another Kenan Thompson,
because as a creative, you knowhow bored you get doing
something.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
But again, SNL is at least different every week.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
True, you know yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
And so there's going to be fun.
But it's when you look atthings like the cast of Friends
or the Big Bang Theory andyou're like how much money were
they making?
Why did somebody quit?
That's stupid.
And you're like, well, becausethey got bored playing Sh
Sheldon Cooper for 10 years, youknow.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Kenan makes me wonder just why Kel Mitchell just
isn't on SNL.
They did the Good Burger skit acouple years ago and you're
just like this is great.
Let's just do this every once ayear.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Just bring Kel back once a year to do a skit.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
I bet that has more to do with Kel not wanting to do
it.
Well, apparently, when I wasreading about it, yeah, it's
like well, he also kind of wenton his own path for a bit.
But they also had talked aboutlike wanting to not work
together as much because theywanted to be individuals rather
than just being keenan and kellyeah, which makes sense.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Like drake and josh.
Yeah, you know, they didn't.
Just.
You know, drake also became atrain wreck, right yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
yeah, as far as we know, keenan and kill are cool.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
They're both fine yeah so, but it it.
It's interesting to think, likesomeone's been doing this for
22 years, like they can retireapparently retirement from snl.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Apparently kill lost his snl audition to keenan.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Oh no, that's wild they like go into keenan's
audition on the audition episodeof the documentary, because
apparently he went way longerthan five minutes, oh and it's
funny watching them like watchtheir own video and they're like
, oh, it's so bad and so okay.
So, nick, let's talk skits,sketches.
Do you have a favorite SNL skitor sketch?

Speaker 1 (40:02):
My favorite is probably just personal favorite
is probably Papyrus the.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Ryan Gosling skit.
So that's like a digital short.
It's a digital short.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
It's not live, but it's just as as as like the
writing type.
As someone who messes withphotoshop and it just hits you
and it hits, it just hits, andgosling's performance of it just
hits so well like I'll watch it, I'll.
It's one I will pull up everyonce in a while when I'm when
I'm either when I'm looking atfonts and I see papyrus pop up,
or I'm just thinking somebody, Isee it in the wild and I just
like, let me watch that againreal quick.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah, if you walk past enough massage parlors or
anything like that someone'sdoing Papyrus.
Yes, you know, and so.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Or the new Avatar coming out.
It got a sequel Go to aninauthentic Chinese restaurant.
Right, yes, they're likePapyrus or India.
Yeah, curry, food and stuff.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
And so that's a good one, and I think we should talk
about the fact that digitalshorts are this pretty cool
modern thing for the host.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yes, Because it's like you're an actor Right and
like hey, we can film thisduring the week.
And it can be, and you can likework with it, yeah, and it's
not.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
You don't have to be necessarily live improv.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Attached to it.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
We can good, you know and so, um, I think those are
pretty good um do you have afavorite.
I mean like just.
I mean like you have to mentionthings like frozen caveman
lawyer you have to mention, likethe chippendale sketch, which
apparently is like what reallybroke chris farley okay, it was
the chippendale sketch withswayze okay, you know, if you've
ever seen that one, yeah yeah,richard Pryor, chevy Chase had
the word association in thefirst season that was big

(41:38):
Cowbell may be the mostwell-known.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Probably the most well-known Like um skit, but
more recently like the BlackJeopardy, especially the one
when Tom Hanks the first one,tom Hanks recurring sketch on
Saturday Night.
Live.
I just love that they switchedit up.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
I do love that.
They switched it to BlackJeopardy and it's Keenan
Thompson now, but Will Ferrelldoing Alec Trebek was the
greatest thing during that era,and then Burt Reynolds and you
also had Sean Connery was hislike nemesis.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
But Will Ferrell played it so straight and just
so, just a man writhing inside.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, and I turned ferguson.
I'll take the rapist likethat's therapist it was so good.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I love jeopardy so much um uh, but I'll I do think
that the, the digital sketches,is what brought millennials into
yeah, and it's because you'vegot like you've got andy samberg
deserves a lot of credit thelonely island is definitely if,
if it's not, will ferrell them,it's definitely andy samberg and
his crew.
The Lonely.
Island that got us into.
Snl Because you've got the DearSister sketch where they just

(42:42):
keep shooting each other at theend of the TV show.
But then you've got all thesongs he did with.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Justin and just with the Island group, dick in a Box,
soak in a Three Way.
I mean watching Lady Gaga yeah,it's okay in a freeway deal.
I mean I just get the.
Uh.
Watching lady godgall sing dickin a box at the concert the
50th anniversary concert as aballad was great.
It was, it was great.
Yeah, honestly, I think eddievetter coming into that I was
the wildest thing of all time.
I was like eddie vetter has asense of humor and this is wild.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
And it worked so well .
Like him in a pirate suit, notthat weird not that out of
character, but still I was.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I was like.
I told him.
I was like that's weird.
I've never seen that guy laugh.
He's been in Pearl Jam for 40years and I've never seen him
laugh.
So um, I thought that washilarious.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Have you heard Black Corey?
He's got a lot of stuff goingon.
He's a sad guy.
He's a sad man.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
And then, um but uh, I would say that I will watch on
repeat if I ever think of them.
One is Garth Brooks and theDevil.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Have you ever seen that one when Will Ferrell's the
devil and Garth Brooks is?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
just playing, a guy trying to write a song and the
devil sucks at writing the songAt some point just changes the
words to Smash Mouth.
I freaking love that sketch.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
That is a good one.
That's a really strong one.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
And then Cobras and the Panthers.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Okay, remind me what that one is, because it's like
West Side Story, right Okay?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
And he's just trying to start a gang fight, but
everyone around him is singingand he's like what's happening.
He's just so confused by theWest Side Story and Robert
Downey Jr is the host, I thinkthat episode, so he's on it
doing well because at this pointhe's not on the show and he's
got more confidence.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
But it's hysterical to me, it's the Coburn Panthers.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Another one from high school that I remember was the
Hermione one with Lindsay Lohan.
Yes, when she got back fromsummer and, like Harry, and
Rachel Dratch is Harry Potter.
And they're just freaking out.
They're like, wow, you'vematured, hermione.
It's just the most.
It's obviously like dated toobad, but like it's just it's
ridiculous.
I think her being harry is whatsells it, because he's she just

(44:44):
does such a good job being likechild harry potter.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I love it so much, yeah and yeah and so, um, and I
okay.
So you, since you brought uplindsey lohan, let's go to hosts
okay, let's talk hosts okaywait, hold on.
Did you ever give me a top fiveSNL movies?

Speaker 1 (44:58):
How Corey?

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Okay, I did come up with the top five.
Okay, and I just assumed we'dhave the same top five.
Okay, go for it.
I just figured we'll havedifferent orders.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Okay, number five is Blues Brothers for me okay
number two is night at theroxbury okay and the number one
is wayne's world got it okay,because the other ones are kind
of okay.
So we're talking sn exclusive.
Yeah, just the sketch movie,that's much easier.
Um, yeah, I, I honestly I thinkyou've got blues brothers hot
rod.
Well, the hot rod's not an slmmovie.

(45:25):
Okay, see, it's ruined it.
Okay, let me look at your listwell, I just have my five.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, that's probably all I need.
Um, because I just left ladiesman, stewart and MacGruber out.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Okay, so five is probably Ladies man for me.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
You like Ladies man.
I do enjoy Ladies man.
I thought it was fun.
I like Tim Meadows a lot.
I didn't like Ladies man.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
My three.
Top three Is probably going tobe Coneheads at three, Wayne's
World at two and Blues Brothersat one.
So four.
I guess you go, Because Ihaven't seen Night at the
Roxbury yet.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
How have you not seen Night at the?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Roxbury Corey.
We have spent six seasonsexplaining why I haven't seen
Night at the Roxbury.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Your parents won't let you watch Night at the
Roxbury Exactly.
Oh, Night at the Roxbury is sogood and so I love Night at the
Roxbury and I think Chris Kattanwas an underrated cast member.
Chris Kattan is an underratedmember underrated member, and so
is uh who's mcgruber?
Uh, will forte.
They're both really underrated.
Will forte is really fun.
I just think will forte is morefun in doses.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I don't think he's a leading guy, I would say the
best, chris katan.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I feel, I feel the opposite way, okay, all right,
all right like I could watchmore of mcgruber like will forte
like he had a run on uh like afew episode run on how I met
your mother and I thought he washysterical.
Yeah, as like uh marshall'sco-worker that's right and but I
like, to me it's like Iwouldn't want you on the show
all the time, but I was like,but you're hilarious as well,
like he popped up during the the50th anniversary thing and I
was like oh yeah, yeah, I lovethat guy yeah he's, he's really

(46:44):
he's a fun dude, um and so, uh,but okay, before that we were
going to hosts because youmentioned lindsey lohan.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Yes, we have to talk about.
Obviously snl has hosts.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Right, right, right do you have like a favorite host
or do you have like like?

Speaker 1 (46:59):
I think currently one of my favorite people that when
they pop up is adam driver okay, so that's my thing.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
I really think we're in a weird modern era of snl of
just great hosts, yeah because,like I wrote down, like gosling,
pascal, yeah, john ham, yes,timothy, like Gosling.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Pascal.
Jon Hamm, yes, timothy Chalametfor some reason keeps showing
up and killing it.
His the Rap Roundtable sketchis already iconic.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
It's incredible.
And then Adam Driver, emmaStone both had great episodes.
Melissa McCarthy, who for somereason I thought was a cast
member, but no.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
She just knows when to show up and show out.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
When she shows up.
It's incredible, and Imentioned Lindsay Lohan and Kim
Kardashian as strong hosts.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Okay, I've never really watched a Kardashian one.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
It's just, for whatever reason, they knew what
to do.
They knew their assignment,which is mostly to just be the
butt of the joke.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, and have a good time with it and that kind of
gives you a little more respect,a little more.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I think that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, it's like, because I mean, kim did a sketch
on the 50th anniversary thisweek and she was just the joke,
yeah, or you know.
And someone who surprises me isscarlett johansson there's some
that get on there.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
You're like, oh, you have a funny bone to the head.
Yeah, there's that, but butthat also speaks.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
it's like, okay, you have to be, you have to be kind
of a cool person to like getalong and be a butt of a joke
all the time, like when theywere doing the end of the year,
where they read each other'slines at the on the weekend
update and she was there andthey just kept cutting to her
backstage after he was justsaying the most terrible things
about her.
She's just like, oh my God,stop.
And so, um, that's that's sogood.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Um, I think, like in terms of the all time hosts.
I think there's a top threethat, like I mean.
I think, like in terms of theall-time hosts, I think there's
a top three, like I mean I thinkif you went through every list
in the world, these would beyour most common top three,
which is Alec Baldwin.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
He's like hosted.
Like how many 17 times 17freaking times.
I think Steve Martin's onebelow him.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
And then Steve Martin and Tom Hanks.
I feel like those are your topthree hosts of all time, and I
include Steve Martin and MartinShort together as a package deal
.
Which they kind of are.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Because when I see one of them on there, I'm like
where's Steve, Where's Martin?
When's he going to show up?
And they usually do.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah, but those, I feel like, are your top three
hosts of all time.
Yeah for sure For sure.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
And I think that are also not cast members.
They weren't cast members andcame back.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
So if you talk about cast members who came back, will
ferrell and then tina fey?
Yeah are like massively goodepisodes of like when they came
back.
And then I think christopherwalken is like the last guy you
put on that list, because healso just really kills it every
time he's on I think he's hostedquite a bit well.
We always think of the cowbelland then yes, if bruce dickinson
wants more cowbell, I think weshould give it to him and also

(49:32):
recently chapelle.
Yeah, I enjoy chapelle's episodechapelle's, just chapelle's,
just weirdly transcended comedy.
He, he's now just like a reallygreat spoken word artist yeah
who makes?

Speaker 1 (49:43):
really bad jokes.
Really bad jokes about thetrans community yeah, but it's.
But it's also like when hecomes on, it's almost like a
barometer check of society.
He's like how's everybody doing, how are we doing?

Speaker 2 (49:53):
chapelle, though in terms of even like his trans
jokes, he's doing what I thinkkanye wishes he was doing with
nazis, which is trying to likecreate this social dialogue.
Only kanye's just being a naziright.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
That's what.
When all this stuff recentlyhappened with kanye I, I stopped
for a moment.
I had a moment of hesitationbecause, because you know, I
like his old music but his newstuff just isn't.
Is it the same?
But at the same time you'relike, okay, what is he trying?
Is he trying to like make astatement?
Is it trying to be like, yeah,this thing.
And you kind of just like, no,it's just, it's just bad and
he's bad and he needs help andhe needs to get back on his

(50:26):
medication.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
It's bad whereas, like chapelle makes jokes about
his community and like in there,at that point I think that's
just up to you if you want tosay it's bad, it's in poor taste
or hey, he's a comedian andthat's the point he's making.
Because he, like he clearlymakes those jokes saying like I
actually don't have a problemwith trans people yeah you know,
and that's his thing what's the?

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I think he's following the function, not
saying it's good or bad, butlike the function of the squeaky
wheel yeah if you keep makingnoise about it, he's gonna keep
making the joke yeah, and he'sgonna keep.
He's gonna keep poking that yeahand so like, and I do think he
had a really good like episoderecently and so, but like, and
we, we should have mentioneddrew barrymore is the her and
tina fayre tied for, like thefemales that hosted the most,

(51:05):
which is like six or seven, yeah, and but for being a non-former
member, she's the top one andso um, which is cool.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
My favorite modern host, though, is nate bargetti.
You love that nate bargettishould be on snl it's just like
he got too big before he had achance to be on snl is the
problem.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
It's like him and uh shane shane gillis yeah, it's
like they weren't quite the vibeof snl, went off and did their
stand-up but when nate's on ithe just feels like a cast member
yeah and I like his recurringsketch as george washington.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
if you've seen this, it's good.
It's so good.
It's his branding.
Why do we use these?

Speaker 1 (51:36):
measurements Nobody knows.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
How far is the mile?
Nobody knows.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
And then Kenan's like so all of us will be free?
Like, yes, all of you, and justignoring Kenan's questions,
pretty good.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
And so I think, like those are like the primary, like
huge hosts, that you just haveto mention Alright, Nick.
I tasked you with coming upwith an all-star cast oh God,
you did With creating anall-time cast of SNL.
Now I gave it to you in thisfollowing criteria I wanted your

(52:08):
goat.
He's the greatest of all time,which we can just say who's your
favorite?
I wanted your top five malecast members your top five
female cast members.
Your top five female castmembers I wanted your glue guy
and to describe glue guy.
It's just the guy who's in everysketch that you can count on
you know, a lot of the time it'sa character actor um, your
musical cast member, the castmember with musical talent, okay

(52:29):
, okay.
And who's your weekend update?
Got it?

Speaker 1 (52:32):
either anchor or anchor team okay, okay so do you
want to start at the bottom andwork our way?

Speaker 2 (52:36):
up.
Yeah, we should work our way up.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Okay, okay, so Weekend Update Anchors, Because
we grew up pretty much in theTina Fey era the Tina and Amy
era Tina and Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I remember Tina and Jimmy a lot yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I think that was the first one, yeah, if I'm
remembering correctly yeah Iremember that one popping up a
lot, um, I think.
But but the shea and colin yost, one's the one I obviously
remembering the most becauseit's most recent, but I've also
been.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
You see a lot.
I'm more engaged with it now,you see, when you know it's
viral.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
But I I think, if not for them.
I think norm mcdonald justnails it like his just dry humor
.
I think he's the he's the goatof that, because like it's I
think that's the the charm of,because I think that's the charm
of it Because Colin Yost almosthas it down to a T as well,
which is just, like, say, themost outlandish thing.
Just stare at the camera, actlike I didn't just say that,
like this is just news.
But I think Norm MacDonald iswho I would go for.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Norm MacDonald is absolutely my weekend update
anchor Excellent, he's just.
First of all, he's like myfavorite comedian of all time.
He's the comedian's comedian.
He is, and Bill Murray gave aranking on the 50th anniversary.
And he's technically the top,because the first spot was just
a joke.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
And Norm MacDonald was ranked the highest.
And he's also the only guygetting fired for doing the
weekend update.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
That's true, that's not comedy.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
And I don't remember the joke, but he just had the
privilege of being the weekendupdate guide during OJ's trial
and so every week you're justcovering this and trying to be
funny and I love.
I think the joke was it was apicture of OJ looking back
relieved and he just says andhere's a picture of OJ thinking

(54:08):
I'll never be able to kill heragain.
And I think that's what it was.
It's because Norm was sayingwhat nobody wanted to say at the
time.
But that we all say now, we allkind of which is he did it and
so he's on a massively like,like huge show saying the the
quiet part out loud, which is sothis guy murdered his wife
right.
Have you ever seen, did you seehim host the espies that one

(54:32):
year?
I don't know if I did heliterally says like he who was
it?
Man, it was uh, who was the guyfrom usc that I think god is
reggie bush maybe yeah and hesaid and reggie bush, the eyes
been trophy winner.
They can't take that away fromyou unless you murder your wife
and her ex-wife, and the crowd'sjust like but he says it was

(54:53):
such.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
That's what's wild is like we all kind, we're all
pretty like 99.9.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Sure oj did it oh, we're like 100, sure at this
point that he did, but they'restill just shocked at somebody
who says it out loud he said itback then, you know, like he
said it like during, he was theguy saying what we all like just
admit now, back then, whereyou're like, no, he's proven
innocent, and like, but he'slike, no, that guy murdered his
ex-wife and her boyfriend and soit's just like it's wild, it'd
be like trying to make fun ofbeyonce at the grammys or

(55:18):
something like yeah, it's justlike he.
He was the comedian's comedian,you know, and I, so he's
definitely my weekend update guy.
I didn't.
I put a rule that we can'tcreate a team, but if I would
have loved to have seen billmurray and norm mcdonald as a
team I don't know if we wouldhave survived cory.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
I don't know it would have survived Corey.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I don't know.
It would have been great, buttheir humor would have just, I
think, bounced off each othersuper well All right, we have
musical cast.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Member next.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah, correct yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
And that's again non-musical guest on the show.
This is someone who uses musicfor comedy purposes.
The best.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
And you've got greats like Will Ferrell I can't
remember the actress who playshim with like the traveling
couple that plays at like barsand stuff, Because she was also
one of the Delicious hostsDelicious Dish hosts.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
And she was such a strong, strong cast member.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
We're losing so many SNL fans right now.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Listen, there was 280 , something like cast members.
Leave us alone.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Anna Geister.
Oh Geister Geister, annaGeister, yeah, she's great too.
Oh, uh, they performed at the50th anniversary concert and
they did not like us and they dothe a minor part and they're
like trying to find the note andso that was incredible and so,
um, but you go first, who's your?
I think sandler okay man.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
He's just like from, he's just obviously sandler's
going to mean something tosomeone my age, okay, but I also
think he's the guy that's likehe's used music the most in his
career.
Obviously he made the WeddingSinger, you know.
Yeah, the Somebody Kill MePlease song's hysterical.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
I went and saw him in concert like a year ago and it
was a just great at like writinga simple song, like he did one
at the 50th anniversary, whichis just literally about the show
.
Yeah, he's poking fun at likeall of it.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah, he, he's the best at just writing that very
relaxed, like unintentionally,like good, like I'm just talking
about something, and I thinkhe's just one of those dudes you
look at and you go like, oh,like, if you weren't an actor,
you would have been probably amusician probably, you know,
like it's like johnny dab, hecould have been the guy that If
you weren't an actor, youprobably would have just played
guitars.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
He's the guy that could have left SNL and just
started a band and no one wouldhave questioned it.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
No, and so I think that's cool, and he obviously
has the Chris Farley song whichI got to see him play live, and
I cried, oh nice.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
And so it was, and the Hanukkah song, yeah, and the
lonely island, I.
I feel like they might havejust kept brought the interest
into snl from that 2000, early2000s, late 20 or noughties era

(57:49):
yeah because, like you know,yeah, you have dick in a box,
you have mother lover, you haveall the runs.
Jack sparrow, I jizzed in mypants we can say it the Mermaid
Song.
Yeah, the Mermaid Song, like hejust keeps going, and he got one
on the 50th too which was justmore about SNL, but they also
did it in a medley style.
Yeah, that's right.
That almost was very like.

(58:18):
It was almost very LesMiserables skip the next night.
Yeah, and so it was.
It was pretty good and so no, Ithink the fact that he made
like pop star never stoppedstopping based around music and
stuff.
I think it's.
I don't know if it eclipsesSandler, but it solidifies
himself as 1a or 1b of like themusic, I think it is kind of
like those are the two guys thatare going to be most associated
with.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Like they had musical talent that they used on the
show I'm going to be.
Can I be negative?

Speaker 1 (58:38):
I guess, but I'm going to admit that I'm negative
.
I don't love Andy Samberg, Iknow.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
But my thing is it's an irrational dislike of Andy
Samberg because I hated Hot Rod.
You hate Hot Rod and I hate howmuch people love Hot Rod Corey,
but I think Hot Rod's one ofthe dumbest movies To me.
It's like people who likeNapoleon, dynamite and Nacho
Libre.
I'm like these are dumb moviesand they're not funny.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Corey.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
There's funny parts of them.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
I was about to say I was like, I'm pretty sure, him
falling down the mountainside.
I recall you bursting intolaughter.
Which part when he falls.
He's doing the training montageand he falls.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
I mean there's little pieces of it that are funny,
but I think they're dumb movies.
I know several people I feel,like napoleon dynamite.
Everyone in napoleon dynamite.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
It's funny, except for napoleon I feel like you,
uncle rico's great, thebrother's great.
I don't think it's fair to putthem in the same category.
There's completely different.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I just feel like there was this time where I
didn't get comedy movies I thinkthat's what it was.
I think there was a time whereI was, just like I hate
everything funny and I'm madthat people love this stuff.
Who hurt you maybe?

Speaker 1 (59:34):
I was sad.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm gonna look at acalendar and try to figure out
what upsets you at this time.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
This was pre like the big breakup, so I don't know
what I was sad about like backthen, but I did not want comedy
in my life in like 2005, 2006 Imean, I just had a high school.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I'm gonna figure this out, figure myself.
Maybe you're just like.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
This isn't my thing a lot of john, a lot of John
Hughes movies.
But I'll say this I think it'san irrational Because I also
hate Brooklyn Nine-whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Nine-Nine.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yeah, nine-nine, but I think I only hate it because
he's on it, corey, and so I'mlike, no, I'm wrestling with the
fact that I think Andy Sambergmight be a really talented man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Is it the same irrational?
No, it's not the sameirrational, because he's not
talented as jay baruchel.
Oh no, I hate that dude.
Yeah, no, forget that dude.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I also.
Yeah, forget that dude, butlike I think uh, I think it's.
I've come into grips with that.
Andy seberg was a reallytalented human being and I just
haven't and I'm trying to likeface my irrational he's also.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
He's also like america's little brother, like
he has that kind of humor yeah,but it's like I need to just
accept that he's talented.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
He is talented.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
At least admitting is the first step, corey, and I'm
proud of you, but I hate FredArmisen.
Yeah, we got a lot of work todo on that one, if I had to rank
every cast member, he would bedead last.
Behind Robert Downey Jr.
Yes, I don't know why Behind.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Quaid, and I'll say this I even think it's, I think
he, because he's one of he's inthis conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Portlandia, just didn't do it for you.
He's a musical guy, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I think that's what it is.
I think I'm sick of him shovingthat he can play music down my
throat okay, because it's likeevery time he's on a tonight
show he's like hey, look at me,I'm behind a drum set, I'm doing
like this.
It's an irrational hatred and Ishould probably come around on

(01:01:22):
Fred Armisen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
I still need to watch Portlandia.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Because he's a delightful guy.
Portlandia was okay, because itmade fun of hipsters.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Okay, but he's a hipster so I didn't like it, so
it's not fully.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Yeah, I need someone who's not a hipster making fun
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I don't want self-deprecating hipster humor
Okay okay, I want someone justtrashing.
Alright Corey Character actorglue guy gal.
So why do they call it the glueguy or glue guy?

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Because it's just like it's that person who like
just was in everything, like Ithink, if they were given, it's
like I think it's like thewriter says this guy can do this
, yeah, or this gal can do thisyou know, I think that's what it
is.
It's just like this person cando.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Or in like a Keenan example, like they're always
going to be reliable, to like.
Stay in the sketch, stay incharacter, even though I think
can add something to it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
I think I think keenan would be considered
probably the glue guy right nowyeah, bill hitter was considered
a blue.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Yeah, you know I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
You know it's weird, they don't like I'm in my
researching, kind of like thebest glue.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Glue guy is the, just the term I didn't say a lot of
women mentioned, but I would saylike maya rudolph would have
probably been she's a solid glue, gal anything yeah kate
mckinnon could do anything yeah,I feel like kate mckinnon
became the star of the showduring kind of because because
it was not not a down part ofthe show, but it was not like
she.
Was it like?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
that they were writing for her.
Anyways, yeah, they're like Ithink the glue guys like, hey,
so and so doesn't want to do thesketch, but this person won't,
right, you know, they'll alwaysdo it and they'll, and they'll
nail it, yeah, so um, yeah,shout out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
I'm gonna shout out chris parnell, yeah, because
he's a good glue guy.
He forget about him and then,and then lazy sunday comes on.
You're like chris parnell, wemissed you chris parnell was
great um.
I, dan akroyd, was the originalglue guy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
He was the original glue guy and I think you have to
shout him out for sure, but notthat I watched a lot of early
snl.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
I actually might do that on like some nights while
I'm editing or something, but II'm choosing bill hater because
he was more of my period.
That's wild and I think, likekeenan definitely is the current
glue guy and I love keenan.
But the thing about bill hateris like, while he is the glue
guy, it's like he he meets thatother part of it which is like,
yeah, that guy can do it.
If somebody's not willing to doit, bill will do it because,

(01:03:23):
like, there are so manycharacters that are just you
don't even know their names oranything but like, like and he
has so many quotable things,like, in a word, chaos, and
you're just like this is greatand he just knows how to be
demented and crazy, but then canreel it back when necessary his
character, stefan, isconsidered yeah, greatest on the
on this on the weekend updatesum, I'm gonna give an honorable
mention to john Lovitz because Ilove John Lovitz.

(01:03:43):
John Lovitz is so great, hislittle part in the 50s special
where he's not even in thebuilding, he's across the street
in the American Girl doll store.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I freaking love John Lovitz and he could do anything
and he can be funny withanything.
You know, daryl Hammond was theglue guy for a long time and
he's the second longest runningcast member, but I'm giving it
to and I, the name I'm about tosay, could honestly easily be my
greatest of all time, but I'mgonna put him here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
It's phil hartman it is yeah, phil hartman is
incredible he is like and hecould do anything my first
experience with phil hartman wassmall soldiers and then jingle
all the way, then then jingleall the way, I think that's the
order so you just knew him as,like the, the dad, the dad, yeah
, either either either a gooddad or a bad dad kind of both
yeah, kind of both like whendoes small soldiers come?

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
hold on, we gotta, we gotta pause 98 yeah, and then
jing, all the way was like 96,yeah, 96, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
You watched those in the wrong order man, I did, I
did, I should well.
I watched jing all the wayfirst, and then it was small
soldiers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yeah, because you yeah because you all, the way
you saw in theaters instead ofspace jam should I tell my small
soldier story now, because Idon't know if we'll ever recast
we're never recasting smallsoldiers, it's mostly voice okay
, real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Short.
Long, too long.
Didn't read.
Young nick was excited, sawsmall soldiers coming out in a
magazine.
Was looking forward to it.
But young nick doesn't alwaysget to go to the movie theaters,
so young nick has to wait forit to go through its theatrical
run, then come out six monthslater it took a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
It took a minute, yeah, six months later.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
So streaming two weeks later cycle of this yeah
rent it from blockbuster superhype.
The movie starts, they say shitand damn and stuff like
multiple times.
Within the first 10 minutes dadejects the cassette, drives it
back to blockbuster that nightman, why was your dad such a
fuddy-duddy man?

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
I?

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
mean military, you know, he didn't hear shit and
fucking the military I probably.
Surely someone yelled it at him.
You know I'm processing itexcuse my language.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
I'm trying to curse less but you know I feel like
you ever.
Okay, I'm at the age where ifI'm gonna say the f word, I feel
like a child if I say f wordit's true, I, you know, just
might as well say saying butyeah, now if you say but I'm
like I feel like a 10 year old,I'm like I'm just gonna say ass
right, grown up, yeah, you knowyou could say the word and then
just be like sorry, yeah, soyeah, excuse my language, but I

(01:05:41):
feel like your dad had someonehad to yell horrible things at
him in the military.
Well yeah, that or full metaljacket lied to us?
Oh no, it did not.
So maybe that's what your dadjust got like just PTSD if he
heard bad words.
So he just drove it back toBlockbuster and just threw it at
some kid and just said filth.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
And so I didn't rewind this.
And so um, you were gonna pickphil hartman, I was gonna stop,
you'd be like we have to talkabout phil hartman.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
It's just I, the.
The unfrozen caveman is one ofthe best sketches ever, and I
don't even know why it's sogoofy it's listed in the top top
listings all the time.
Yeah he's because your way isconfused and frightened.
It's such a simple idea of justa well-spoken caveman and it
just works.
And so yeah, he's okay.
So give me your top five women.

(01:06:36):
My top five women, yeah, femalecast members of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
So this is who I believe are the top five, or my
personal, your personal favoritebest is subjective and people
should stop saying best.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
I guess that just means my favorite in subjective
terms, okay, okay because I Idid have some.
I was looking it up right now Iwas going for like the all time
, then you said I could pick whoI wanted, so I had to do either
.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
If you want to do all time, all of them, yeah um,
kate mckinnon obviously is goingto be on there, tina fey is
going to be on there, cats too.
Um, kennan obviously is goingto be on there, tina fey is
going to be on there, cats too.
Um, I might put maya rudolph onthere because she is just so
good, okay, and then from there,nick is stalling by making the

(01:07:17):
music rachel dratch doesn't getenough appreciation.
Yeah, she's not.
She's not ever gonna be a moviestar.
No, but she's gonna enter mytop five.
She should.
And then I will round it out ofmy favorites.
I think heidi gardner is kindof a new.
No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait,wait, wait.
Oh, I can't even think of hername.
It's not fair if I can't thinkof her name um wait well, who is
it?
She's one of the new charactersshe's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
She's fun and spunky and dresses funny gosh, I don't
know.
You'd have to look up thenewest cast.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Yeah, new cast, current cast.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Yeah, SNL current cast.
Use the Google machine.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
We're professional podcasters here guys.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Well, our producer took off.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
He did.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
He took off to Dallas .
Half the people it's showingwhen you typed in current cast
are not current, are?

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
not current Sarah Sherman I think she's fine.
Yeah, she's fun, she's like thelady gaga of the current snl.
Every time you see her andyou're like, oh, that's an
outfit that's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
That's a choice.
I'll go all right.
So, um, all right, okay, cool,um, wildly nick.
I didn't expect us to hit somany of the same.
Oh really yeah that's what Ifeel like you crapped on my list
honestly I expected you to goin different directions.
Um minor in order, okay, uhOkay.
Maya Rudolph comes in at five,got it, because I think she can
do anything.
I actually have Heidi Gardnerat fourth.

(01:08:30):
She's a current, she's prettygood, she's freaking.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
I've never not laughed at her.
No, she's always great.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
When I watch her new ones, I think the current
episodes is great.
And so I have Kate McKinnon.
Again, I have a weird thingabout her where I'm like I don't
know if I like her, but she'shilarious, she is.
And again I think she justanytime she was ever on she like
Okay, so you have your JimmyFallons who are?
Hilarious because they can'tget through a sketch without
laughing.
And then you have your KateMcKinnon, who everyone around

(01:08:57):
her is laughing and she neverbreaks.
And it's what makes it great,because she's just it's too much
, you can't.
You can't handle it and so uhgilda radner is okay, and she's
when she's original cast member.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
That's cool, great, great great.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
She was married to gene wilder um and I she's oh
yeah and so, uh, she wasincredible.
She was, uh, rosanna, uh, whatwas the?
What was the weekend update?
Rosanna, rosanna donna, okayshe was great um.
And then my number one israchel dratch.
She is my number one, all-timefemale interesting, we weren't
that similar.
I mean a little bit.
We had three.
Well, I guess you backed off,heidi, I did.

(01:09:30):
I backed off Heidi yeah, oh, butwe had Kate McKinnon and Maya
Rudolph, so too yeah, no three,because you also had Rachel
Dratch.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Oh, that's right.
Okay, three for five.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Man, I can't count, corey, it's not my specialty and
so, um, yeah, I think RachelDratch was incredible, you know,
and I mean there's tons.
Jan hoats was great.
Sherry o'terry was great.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Obviously, molly shannon might be one of the most
notable female but those are myfive it's time for top five
male top five male you have togo first I have to go first.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
You do all, right, I went first last time coming in
at number five again, I felt theneed to bring a current cast
member on here, and this guy isI bowen, yang is hilarious.
You like bolin?
I?

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
bowen yang is incredible he is.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
I dude his jd vance.
I just I don't know bowen yangjust commits to everything in a
way.
That's just, it's automaticallyfunny.
Yes, um, agreed, I have danakroyd at number four, okay, so,
um, I think he's, you know,obviously original cast um and
he's hilarious.
Um, three's three was hardbecause I feel like I can't have

(01:10:32):
both.
Okay, I went with chris farleyokay over jim or john belushi
fair.
I feel like you can't have bothon the same cast.
I mean, it's you know, you gottatype, you gotta type, yeah, but
I went with chris farley justbecause I'm a millennial okay
you, you know.
And then Dana Carvey at numbertwo.
Okay Again, Dana Carvey is justreally incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
He's really diverse.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
That's the thing, man , he was diverse.
He could do anything, and thenmy number one male is Mike Myers
.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Mike Myers Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Myers was my guy when I was watching it with my older
sister as a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
I thought he was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
He is hilarious.
Linda what?
What was the Jewish mom's name?
He just appeared on the 50th asthe Linda Richmond.
Linda Richmond is hilarious, hedid the skit.
That was my favorite part ofthe 50th anniversary, because
Mike Myers is kind of a reclusenow.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
It's true, I was excited he showed up.
Since you're a big mike myersfan, did you watch that show he
did on?
It was on netflix or something.
Yeah, I haven't seen it Iwatched almost all of it I mean,
it's fat, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
that's that's the genius of me made an entire show
based on a joke from.
So I married an axe murderer,which is his best character, by
the way.
Way is the.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Scottish dad, and so I married an Axe-Murder.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
He's the dad, oh he's both he plays the dad and the
son.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Oh, so Eddie Murphy did, yeah, but Eddie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Murphy took it to like eight characters.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
True, true, true, true, true, true.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
I mean it's like Austin Powers.
He plays like Fat Master, drEvil and.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Austin Powers.
So, and that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
He's done more but, like the Scottish dad in Soda
Mary, axe Murder is top tierMcNair's to me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
But he's my number one guy.
Okay, okay, all right, allright Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
And he's Wayne, he's Wayne.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Campbell and Dieter.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
He's Dieter, or whatever the German talk show
host, that was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
That's true.
I saw that, that's true.
Top reasons um three probablymy three spot or my four spots
excuse me, I can't again guys.
Sorry, I can't count.
All right, my three top threeis bill hater, bill murray and
then adam sandler probablyrepeat that again.

(01:12:34):
Bill hater, adam sandler, billmurray okay, so you only have
four I have four.
I'm trying to think of who myfourth slot would go to, because
they're going to be probablyabove bill hater, or maybe bill
harris should just be four.
Who would be my fifth spot?
We'll bump bill up, let's.
I'll do a modern.
I'll do a modern one as well.
I'll do a modern one as well.

(01:12:54):
Marcelo hernandez I think he'spretty great.
He's pretty good.
I think he's pretty good.
He's pretty fun so my five ismarcelo bill hater, and then we
jump to the top three, which?

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
sandler, murray or wait sandler no car.
No, sorry, I can't even countanymore uh marcello dana, bill
hater, adam sandler, bill murrayI love finding out that you're
a hater fan I don't know whythat just, it just works but
maybe I'm just glad that billhater's getting some love.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
I think he, I think we're all glad he's getting some
love.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Before we go to our goat, I would like to mention
some of the biggest names thatauditioned for Saturday Night
Live and did not make it.
Sure, I'm not going to gothrough all of them.
I mean, there's obviouslynotable, like the most notable
ever is Jim Carrey.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Jim Carrey auditioned .
That is surprising, he got toldno, and then he went on to In
Living.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Color and kind of rivaled obviously them.
For a long time he was thesting of In Living Color.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
SpongeBob SquarePants Tom Kenny that would have been
great.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Why isn't he hosted?
He should host.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Johnny Knoxville, try it out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Johnny Knoxville I can see, but I can also see how
he could be on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
I mean, what's he going to do?
Just hurt himself a bunch?

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
I mean that I mean, that's just slapstick comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
He's the modern like slap charlie chaplin basically
yeah, but they, like theypurposely didn't get hurt, he
just would like, I'm gonnaactually get hurt it's comedy,
it's an art form, cory um theother really big one that people
know, it's like, obviously,andy kaufman, like addition for
the original cast.
He was on the first episode asa featured guy, but like he was
just too, uh, unpredictable umjohn goodman, donald glover,

(01:14:25):
zach Galifianakis everyone knowsthat Colbert and Carell were on
there.
Jennifer Coolidge was one of theones that I I remember she was
on the documentary and someonesaid I really wanted her, but
Lauren didn't see it.
I mean, it's just crazy.
You can go through and there'sjust so many people that tried
out and did not make it for that.
That's wild.

(01:14:49):
Most of the cast of friends atsome point.
Yeah, apparently jenniferanston was trying to be on it.
She tried.
Um, you know, lisa cutro tried.
I mean, it's just, it's wild.
Mark maron, you know, he's apodcaster like us now.
Hey, uh, john mulaneyauditioned but he ended up
becoming a writer yeah, he didthe slow path.
Yeah, he did the slow path, andand so it's wild to think how
many people did try it and didnot make it yeah, so GOAT.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
I don't know if it's controversial or not to you, but
I think it has to be WillFerrell.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Man, you have Jason Sudeikis pulled up on your
Google right now and I was aboutto just absolutely argue with
you for an hour.
And don't get me wrong, I'm theguy that says Jason Sudeikis
would make a good Indiana Jones,but Maybe I think the time's
passed.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
The time's definitely passed, but I think he would
have been, if we needed to handoff the torch, better than Chris
Pratt, because he's in too much.
Yeah, no, yeah, we don't needthat I still stand by Bradley
Cooper, though, oh yeah stillgood looking but no, I think
will ferrell, just because, likethere are so many, not only
just sketches he's involved inbut characters he's involved
with and created and starred, asI mean we talked about the
couple that plays the music,like the old school versions of

(01:15:54):
songs.
Yeah, the swinger couple thatis in the hot tub.
You've got the guy who's likeuh, you think the moon's made of
cheese or whatever harry carrey.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
harry cary, where he made Jeff Goldblum look normal.
Yeah, exactly the only timeJeff Goldblum's had to play the
straight man.
Yes, other than maybeIndependence Day, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
And we were watching the 50th anniversary episode and
we watched the last skit withKeenan and Eddie Murphy and he
comes in just in a bit part andstill just doesn't officially
steal the show but is likeofficially steal the show, but
like it's like a memorable, it'sjust funny.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Yeah, it's the cowbell cowbell scene, you know,
and all he's doing is just withhis gut out hitting a cowbell.
It's one of those things whereI want to argue with you,
because I'm not a big fan ofwill ferrell's movies like
you're not.
I mean, my thing is this islike do you?

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
hate comedy I hate.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
I don't even want to say not a big fan, because I
would say like I'm 50, 50 withwill ferrell movies okay like
it's like half I can take andhalf I don't love.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Do you like the family-friendly Will Ferrell or
do you like the R-rated WillFerrell Well?

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
my thing is with R-rated Will Ferrell.
I think it's lazy.
I think, he just like it's justhow can I just say a bunch of
expletives and it's like I thinkold school is his best one, but
that's because he's thestraight man in it.
He's the drunk, he's like hestarts out as like the guy who
grew up and he like descendsdown and I think that's like
okay, I think blades of glory ishis best movie what's your

(01:17:07):
favorite, I think it's I thinkit's his best character is the
figure skater chas michaelmichaels get to one song, one
song only so I think that'sreally good.
Uh, he's stranger than fiction,like some of his drama stuff is
actually really good um you knowand so like other guys.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
I don't love other guys.
I need to re-watch it.
I think, but I honestly there'sjust so much that gets pulled
out of it in culture now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
I think that's more of like a Mark Wahlberg problem.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
I don't think I like Mark Wahlberg maybe that's what
it is, I just feel like itshould have been someone else
but that's why I think there'san argument for him also,
because he had so many memorablesketches on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
I can't argue with you because I don't know that
there's another answer, though Ihave a different answer because
you can, because you can argue.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Eddie murphy for sure , he carried snl for four years.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
It wasn't my era of time, so like it's again, it's
like trying to argue billrussell, wilt chamberlain
michael or kobe or lebron yeah,I mean, this is your favorite,
yeah, and like your favorite,kind of like and who you think
had like the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
You could argue sandler for sure, who's yours?

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
I put eddie murphy okay, as the greatest of all
time, absolutely, and I thinkit's just because he did carry
the show for a really long time,but I also think anytime I've
ever seen him show back up likehe showed up at the 40th he
showed up, you know he's.
He's been a host, I believe,and like he's and he's done this
or he's just showed up atplaces.
Yeah, it's always good it, it'strue.

(01:18:23):
The 50th where he plays TracyMorgan next to Tracy Morgan was
perfect.
It's too good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
It was incredible.
I don't know how Tracy Morgankept a straight face.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I don't either, because Tracy Morgan's kind of
being overshadowed by someoneplaying himself and it just
worked perfectly, and so I thinkhe's just I I think, in terms
of improv comedy yeah he's kindof untouchable but I would say
will ferrell's guy, like yousaid?
1a, 1b yeah it's it's more likewho's great at sketch comedy,

(01:18:55):
who's good at being on the spot?

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
in improvving and I think those two were kind of
untouchable.
Yeah, and the fact that theywere together in that scene that
we watched for the 50s waspretty cool.
I don't know if they've gottento do a scene together before
that, but yeah and it was.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
It was incredible.
I, you know.
Again, phil hartman could havebeen my list, norman donald
could have been my list, butthat's just because his brain of
humor is just this whole otherthing you know and so like.
But I it's hard not to just andyou know, and like.
Again, I want to argue againstwill ferrell.
But you can, but you can't.
One of my favorite skits is thedevil in Garth Brooks.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
And it's because Will Ferrell, it's not because of
Garth Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
It's Will Ferrell, it's not Garth, you know and I
think it's also that like Ithink when you look at a guy
like Phil Hartman, he's so good,but he's also like he's good
because he just knows what he'sdoing before he walks on stage I
think when you watch willferrell and eddie murphy?
You're watching like perfectchaos yes it.
It feels like improv it feelslike.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
None of this is written down no and it feels
like they're just going off thecuff and that's like the point I
think that's the thing too, iswhile they and they're it's also
the will ferrell and eddiemurphy, but they have more.
They definitely have moreleniency with stuff, but you saw
in several sketches on the 50thwhere like they would just
throw something out.
Yeah, that was unexpected likewhen he was doing Tracy Morgan
or when Will was doing the BigRed.
Yeah, Big Red, you're just likeyou're like, of course, yeah,

(01:20:11):
we're gonna let that, allow that, because they're making magic,
right?

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
now, yeah, and so I think it.
I think those are the twoanswers.
Like you know, it'd be hard toargue much else in terms of two
guys that had an impact outsideof like going back to just like
original cast members and sayinglike, well, yeah, these are the
guys that started it suresomeone's gonna say chase,
someone's gonna say acro,someone's gonna say murray I
think the ones that you canconsider below them are sandler,

(01:20:34):
murray and belushi.
Yeah, as all-time goats and I,and my thing is, and I think,
and I think sorry to interruptyou, mckinnon- yeah potentially,
but she needs I think she needsto have like a good film career
first.
Yeah, well, I mean, like, if youwant to just keep it to snl, I
think mckinnon has to be in thatconversation in the same way,
like tina fey and my rudolph youknow if you're gonna, because

(01:20:54):
you do have to.
Like obviously you know ourbrains immediately go oh, a man
has to be the best, but likeobviously no, there were so many
females that carried that showand t Tina was a writer, I mean
she wrote Mean Girls.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
She wrote an entire sitcom that went for like eight
seasons, based off being awriter for SNL.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
You know, so she was massively important to that show
.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
So I think we've undervalued Tina Fey quite a bit
.
Oh, we do.
We do undervalue.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Tina Fey and so, but like I think, when you get into
it it's just like it's all aboutthis.
I think Jim Belushi to me wouldbe the third because I think he
was just good at improv.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
John Belushi.
Huh, john Belushi, sorry, johnBelushi, not Jim Belushi.
Jim's like yes, yes, nailed it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
So no, but John Belushi, because I think he was
also just great at improv.
Yeah, I think he was just goodat being off the cuff, you know,
and I think like those, thosethree are probably the top three
in terms of you just want to goon a who could just walk into a
skit and own it with, maybejust like pure charisma and like
comedic talent.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Yeah, we're talking because we're definitely talking
more like the performance alone, and I think that's where, like
people like tina fey get a bitput low down a step, but then
you've also got.
She did sarah palin.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
That's an iconic role that she had as well yeah, and
I, but that's my thing is Ithink it's just like you know
when you, when you look at itand you look, it is just like
you can tell who.
Everyone had their own style ofthings you know, I think heidi
gardner is great, but I don'tthink she's kate mckinnonon,
because I think Heidi Gardner isjust one of those people like
I'm really prepared for thisimprov thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
I think she has like strong potential.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
But it's just like it's, it's, it's like it's.
It is the Michael Jordan thing.
He made it look easy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
And I think that I mean like, you hear constant
stories of, like Michael Jordan,like, oh, the Bulls were down,
and then like, hey, my teammatewent over there and said, hey,
it's not falling tonight, mj.
And then like and then MJscored 24 points in the last 10
minutes and we lost.
And it's like well yeah, andthat's like that's being good.
It's like someone just pissedhim off enough to be like oh
yeah, I'm gonna try a littleharder.

(01:22:58):
Yeah, and like and I thinkthat's what it is with Eddie and
Will and like John Belushi isthat like?
It seemed like they didn'tprepare it, just seemed like
they were good at it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
It's like almost like those are the guys that and I
would say Chris Farley has to goin there- yeah, farley's a guy
that probably, like made,probably gets more cult hero
status because of his shorterrun and life cut short, sadly
like in John Belushi too wouldhave me that same thing, but
like I would say, it's just likethey looked, like they were
just comfortable yeah, like theylived in this world yeah
whereas everyone else?

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
because the one of the magic things of saturday
night live is that it's live andpart of the fun is the possible
train wreck of escape to thejimmy fallons and, like you know
, even keenan's pretty hard atkeeping it together a lot and
like so, but like those guys younever really saw it that much
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
It's just like they felt like they were born.
They're just living, living init.
Saturday Night Live yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
And I think that's why you have to have like those
guys in question, or I mean likein the conversation- so I can't
argue with Will no.
And I think Will's one of thereasons Saturday Night Live
didn't die in the late 90s,early 2000s.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Probably Like he you know, I think he's one of those
anchor cast members that said,oh, times are tough and maybe
we're not the most culturallyrelevant thing, but some guy's
gonna make it.
You know, because he.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
I'm trying to see what his runtime was like 95,
like 2002 or something like thatyeah, he was.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
He was on the show from 95 to 2002.
Not nailed it, nailed it.
We're spending too much time onthe internet, cory.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Too long, too long I didn't face 54 years old dang.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
She's a babe, babe alert, total babe alert, trying
to see where she from 2000 to2006 yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
So I mean, if you get , if you like, think about 2000,
2002, those.
That's a massively like, yeah,that's a big couple, because a
lot of like bigs overlap in thatera and so, but again, I mean I
think you have to look at thoselike will ferrell was an anchor
from the post, chris farley,adam sandler, years years to
carrying it to where you got, tothe strong 2000s.
Because he was down in 95, ifyou think about, it he

(01:24:52):
overlapped with, I think, MikeMyers.
one year he was that passing ofa torch from that crew that all
went on to movies.
But then same thing with EddieMurphy.
Eddie Murphy is this guy thatcomes in when Chase and akroyd
and murray are all leaving forfilms and then he's got to carry
the show through a rough fewyears, you know, and so like.
Again, though, but I mean,that's why you talk about those

(01:25:15):
two guys as goats for sure well,that was saturday night it was
if you listen to this, thank you, god bless you, because we're a
film podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
It's a film adjacent episode.
I mean, yeah, it's got we'retalking about the thing that
happened this weekend, theanniversary.
We're talking about all timegreats and how they've
transcended into film stardom.
So yeah, it's all kosher?

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Yeah, it is, and so it's all on, peacock, go watch
it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
That's right.
Watch the, watch the special.
This is really just an ad forpecan, guys.
You really just need to go.
It's a small bit.
Five cents an episode.
Yeah, absolutely nothingsubtracting twenty thousand
dollars for rights.
But yeah, it's, it's a, it's aprocess, guys.
We gotta catch up to the kelseysomehow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Yeah, oh my gosh, the freaking kelsey's.
They're probably not talkingabout this probably not.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
They're probably just talking about how kelsey lost
the super bowl and just sad andstuff and how taylor yelled at
him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
I bet I wouldn't be sad if I was Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I just sold my podcast for $200 million.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
He sold it for $200 million, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
so I think they sold it to Spotify for a lot of money
.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Corey, how do we sell out and bro down?
I just want to get to the brodown.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
I think you have to date Taylor Swift and win some
Super Bowls, but that could gobad.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
I can't win Super Bowls.
I'm too old, my 40's probably.
No good, no more.
I still got solid hands.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
You could be Pickleball.
Okay yeah, that's for oldpeople.
It's catching on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
Maybe, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
I don't think Taylor Swift is going to date you,
though.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Listen, she likes hipsters.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Hipsters play Pickleball.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
I just have to become a hipster, corey I.
I'm sorry it's for the podcast.
Just remember it's for thepodcast.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Maybe, maybe aim lower.
Sabrina Carpenter, Chapel Roan.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Chapel won't date me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Why not she's?
She likes girls.
Oh, she only likes girls.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Yeah, she only likes girls now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
It's all.
It's all in the lyrics.
Corey Well, short sweet, youknow all that good stuff and
then we sell out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
I break up with Sabrina and then the bro down
happens.
We buy the khakis, we get jobs,we sell out, we bro down.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
I don't even remember what that reference is from.
It's basketball.
I was referencing South Parkwell, that's the bro down.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
It's the same guys.
They made a movie about astupid sport earlier reference
in their own show.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
Well, no, it's.
Uh, they made a movie calledbasketball right, it's about a
lazy sport.
Yes, sport they make becausethey're lazy, that turns out big
.
And then, at the beginning,though, they're at a high school
reunion and one of them's likethey're mad because the girls
aren't talking to them, andthey're like we get the khakis,
we get the job, and then but Ilike that it starts with khakis
naturally, naturally so, um,yeah, all right, cool.

(01:27:51):
Hey, we talked about a movie wedid there it is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
There it is, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
It only took an hour and a half, that's all all right
, well, um, if you don't likesnl, this episode is probably
awful for you but hopefully itmade you want to watch snl.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Yeah, and is on Peacock and listen to more of
our podcasts by going toatconrecast or whatever
streaming service you're onright now.
Just go ahead and hit that likebutton, that follow button,
that heart thing, whatever's onthe side there.
Hit that and then give us areview if that's optional but
then follow us.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
We still in the surprise era.
I think we'll just do surpriseera.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Okay, that's fine, we'll just keep it surprise.
Since we didn't talk aboutmovies, I don't know if I should
just plug this.
Yeah, we'll just you know justcall it good, okay, cool All
right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Well, that was Saturday Night Live.
Hope you enjoyed it.
We're live from Nick's bedroomon Tuesday night.
Say goodbye, nick.

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