Space Jam - ?!?!: A Looney Change-Up to the Michael Jordan Juggarnaut - Quantum Recast: Your Favorite Films, Recast In Different Years

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Cory (00:00):
1996.
, Is Sunday.
A piece, Do you recall?
Austin 316 said Buck Bunnylikes scary movies.
I'll be the money.

Nick (00:13):
Welcome to the Rock.
I'm the minister Jordan.
Can I have your autograph?
Yeah, your John Hancock.
What's going on here?
You heard of the dream team.
Well, we're the mean team, hoho, I don't play defense.

Cory (00:25):
Warner Brothers presents Jordan Bunny Special Delivery.
Together, they just might savethe world Space Jam.

Nick (00:57):
Has anyone here ever played basketball?

Cory (01:01):
Welcome to another episode of Quantum Recast.

Nick (01:04):
I'm your host, Corey.

Cory (01:05):
I haven't been here in a minute.
Hot minute Hot minute, and withme, as always, is Nick.
It's just us today.
It's just us dudes being bros.
Ash is married, allie'sgallivanting around California.

Nick (01:18):
Or Oregon, oregon, oregon, my goodness, pacific Northwest,
yeah, all right, west Coast.

Cory (01:22):
West, my goodness Pacific Northwest.

Nick (01:23):
Yeah, All right.
The East West Coast.

Cory (01:24):
West Coast, Bigfoot country, Bigfoot country.

Nick (01:26):
Send out, send out your love and hopes and prayers and
hopes, and prayers or whateveryou either that she finds
Bigfoot or that she doesn't findBigfoot, if she, finds Bigfoot,
that he's peaceful and cool,like Harry and the Hendersons.
Sure, sure, sure.

Cory (01:38):
But you know, came back with confirmation.

Nick (01:41):
That's all we're hoping for.
And then Cass is on the EastCoast.

Cory (01:44):
Cass is just doing Cass things.

Nick (01:45):
She has a pool.
Now she has a pool, she can becool.

Cory (01:48):
So she's probably by the pool.
So it's just us.
Yeah, so it's just us.
We don't have cool lives.
But hey, if you clicked on thisepisode, we're talking about
the movie Space Jam.
Yes, the Michael Jordan versionversion I believe that was 1995
6.
Yes, 1996 1996 masterpiece thatis, space jam.
We will not be really goinginto any depth of the lebron

(02:10):
james version, not really so ifyou're gen z or alpha gen or gen
alpha, you're probably notgoing to be that excited um
sorry to all the bronze sexualsout there.
Sorry as they're talked about sobut we just came out of the nba
finals we did, we're in thatweird time in between the finals
and the draft.
You know it's summer, it's aweird time, you know there's at
least there's the wmba's hot.

Nick (02:30):
Now you know, it's, it's, it's thriving, you know just
weirdly played at two o'clock inthe afternoon right yeah,
everyone's at work.

Cory (02:37):
They're still still fighting for those prime time
spots, you know.
But we'll get there, we'll getthere.
They just got private planes.
We're all kind of payingattention now.

Nick (02:44):
We're like this is kind of good hey, actual espn segments
on a daily basis.
Yeah, it's great, we're all forit um and then there's like the
ufo and soccer, and theolympics are coming.
The olympics are coming.
That's mainly what we're allwaiting for.

Cory (02:55):
It's just this weird dead space where we watch a wmba
highlights.
If you like golf it's on onthursday through sunday, so
we're talking basketball.

Nick (03:03):
I did watch golf with my dad.
I've never seen him watch golf.
We watched the ending.

Cory (03:08):
Nick.
People would be shocked tolearn how much golf I watch.

Nick (03:11):
I'm shocked that you even watch any golf.

Cory (03:12):
It's weirdly relaxing to just watch golf.

Nick (03:15):
Are you at that point where you start falling asleep
while you watch it?
Are you in that mode yet?

Cory (03:28):
No, actually I don't watch day one, two or three, I watch
day four on sundays and Iusually turn in the last like
two hours of it, sure, when it'slike coming down when it counts
.
You know, like the us open camedown to the last hole this last
week and it was great.
I was like in it.
My wife's like hey, we gotta go.
I'm like hold on, mackerel justneeds to make this putt and he
screwed it up.
And he screwed it up.
Uh, but yeah, we're not talkingabout golf no, save it for the
caddyshack.

Nick (03:40):
Right, right, right shack.
Yes, focus, or have you gotmore episode?
Happy thoughts, the 90sbasketball yes, yes the finals
just happened.

Cory (03:47):
The celtics won to uh.
I don't know if you're fromboston.

Nick (03:50):
That was exciting for you.

Cory (03:51):
For everyone else it's just kind of like oh great, yeah
, okay um, it was, uh, it was anup and down playoffs for me.
I rooted for everyone butdallas until the finals and I
was like all right, fine, um,I'll get on the luc train, not
enough.

Nick (04:05):
Here we are.

Cory (04:05):
All I get out of this is that the Lakers fans are mad.
That's all I get out of this.

Nick (04:08):
And that's enough sometimes.

Cory (04:09):
It really is.
It's fun to watch them go.
Well, we have an in-seasonchampionship.
It's like no, that doesn'tcount.

Nick (04:16):
We promise we're not a sports podcast, we're just.
This is like one, threeepisodes this year that we've
covered all three sports thisyear.
What's the third one?
We did baseball.
Oh, we did.
Think of their own.
Think of their own, yeah,alright, look at us being sports
guys.
Yeah, we're jocks.

Cory (04:33):
Oh man, no, but for real, we are going to talk Space Jam,
though we're not going to do ournormal thing.
We're not taking it to one year, no, no no, we've actually
taken it to two different yearspretty much, yes, yes, you've
chosen a post jordan year totake it to with a essentially
we're gonna.
We're gonna replace michaeljordan in these movies
impossible, but continue yes butjordan's or nick, has chosen a

(04:53):
post jordan player to build amovie round that is not lebron,
I'm assuming, because thatmovie's been made.
That's already happened andthen I've chosen a pre, like
jordan era yeah, player.
Yeah jordan was playing, but hewasn't jordan, but he wasn't
the monster he was right, yes,um and uh, that's what we're
gonna do today, but I'm here forit.
But you know, before we do that,um house cleaning, we're on

(05:14):
social media, but the surgeongeneral is about to tell you
that it's not healthy for you,it's not they're about to put
warning labels on social media.
It's full of plastics so it'slike don don't, don't do it.
It's literally going to be likewhen you open Instagram, you're
like Attorney General, justlike don't do this.

Nick (05:29):
We are at Quantum Recast Instagram, facebook, tiktok X,
twitter, whatever you want tocall it, we're there.

Cory (05:34):
But since you're already addicted to it, yeah, we're on
the social medias.

Nick (05:37):
For sure At Quantum Recast , follow us.

Cory (05:45):
Like yeah, but your grandkids will not be into us
because they'll know what'sunhealthy.
Yeah, that's true, that's true.
But yeah, we're there.
But before we jump into SpaceJam yeah, like our new versions
yes, our new versions of SpaceJam.
We have to talk about Space Jam.
That's right 1996 is Space Jam.
Nick, tell me about this movie.

Nick (05:58):
Corey, what is there to say about Space Jam?
It's magical, it's chaotic,it's insane.
It shouldn't exist.

Cory (06:05):
Corey, it's really the best words I can explain to you,
but I'm so glad it does.
I can say this, and withoutexaggeration, for our generation
.
It was a moment.

Nick (06:15):
It was the moment.

Cory (06:16):
Corey.

Nick (06:19):
It was a massive moment.
I think a lot of people want topoint to a Phantom Menace
menace coming out as like oh,this was the childhood moment,
or you go a little earlier forsomething.
I'm like, no, no, no, this waslooney.
Tunes were back.
They were cool again.
We've been raised on themthrough cartoon network and
other stuff and we were in themiddle, the freaking middle
quarry, of the reign of michaeljordan, his air does himself,
and somebody had the crazy ideaof let's make a movie with both

(06:41):
of them what?

Cory (06:42):
what the thing is is like jordan on his own yeah by 96 is
three peated once yes um, andhe's like mid second three, peat
right, or he's about to startthe second three they shot this
before the season that heofficially came back.

Nick (06:55):
There was the, the playoff run that he had, where he lost
to the magic, and this is shotover the summer before him.

Cory (07:00):
Rodman and pippen go on their three peatat of terror For
any non-basketball fans whojust have to know Michael Jordan
quit basketball in the middleof his career at the height of
his career honestly to go playbaseball.

Nick (07:12):
For his dad.

Cory (07:13):
Yeah, his dad was murdered right.

Nick (07:15):
Yes.

Cory (07:15):
And so he wanted to honor his dad.

Nick (07:18):
His dad was a baseball player, or really into baseball,
really into baseball, reallyloved it, wanted him to play it
imagine being the bestbasketball player that's ever
lived.

Cory (07:24):
Your dad's like yeah, I would have been better if you
were baseball baseball playerdad, I'm six foot six my batter,
my batter's box is way too big.
Erin judge is a freak.
Oh, but, um so, but like.
What people have to know islike so michael jordan's the
biggest thing in the world, yes,96 yes, but like for our
generation, that's really intomichael jordan's the biggest
thing in the world.

(07:44):
Yes, 96.
Yes, but like for ourgeneration, that's really into
michael jordan because we'relike 10, like 8, 9, 10, 11 years
old right in there um, we'realso the generation that brought
back looney tunes because of alittle network called cartoon
network.
You're welcome world likegeneration x, abandoned looney
tunes they were dead on arrival.
Gen z abandoned them right afterwe did right after we brought
them back it's true, it's true,but we got cartoon network we

(08:05):
thought it was the greatestthing ever in the early days of
cartoon network, it was nothingbut looney tunes and hannah
barbara reruns and we were likethis is solid, this is this,
this is the life this is prettygood, and so you're welcome.

Nick (08:15):
Yeah to say this was like the perfect amalgamation of all
my interest as an eight-year-oldwould be an understatement of
the century.

Cory (08:22):
Yeah, like the hype building for this movie was was
at all-time high levels becauseI'll ask you this do you think
there was any um interest fromdisney?
From disney about making, Ithink they were like jordan come
play basketball with mickeymouse um, I don't know if they
had the madness to think aboutthat, so you also have to
remember that, like in 96,disney less about Mickey Mouse

(08:44):
and Goofy the doll duck and farmore about Aladdin and Mermaid
and Beauty and the Beast.
They're just riding high at thebox office they have their new
IP and Warner Brothers is justleaning on.

Nick (08:53):
Hey, the Looney Toons, you guys love these guys, right?

Cory (08:55):
they're doing solid numbers on Cartoon Network.

Nick (08:57):
We're gonna put them in 90s gear and make them look
really cool and hip.
And then, 20 years from now,that shirt's gonna say old
school.

Cory (09:03):
It's gonna make you feel really old we just bought six
flags, bugs you can go see bugsbunny now it was.
It was a good time for thosetwo things to.
I think just it's literally forour generation.
It was the two possible biggestthings yeah that could have
come together.
The only way this is bigger isif Michael Jackson records.

Nick (09:20):
I believe I can fly instead of he who should not be
named.

Cory (09:23):
Redacted kelly, yeah so if michael jackson had put out
that, instead of the free williesong, perfect trifecta no notes
the biggest pop culture thingthat's ever happened to
millennials this was.

Nick (09:37):
This was the incident yeah so let me, let me give you the
rundown cory, real quick, somefactoids about the movie, just
to dive into this a little bitmore.
So Space Jam was released onNovember 10th 1996.
It was directed by a guy namedJoe Peitka Okay, the
extraordinary director, joePeitka, corey, do you know him?

Cory (09:56):
Nobody does.

Nick (09:56):
Corey, Don't answer that question he directed one other
movie in 89 called Let it Ride,but he was mainly known for
music videos and commercials allthrough the late 80s and 90s.
A lot of Pepsi commercials,this dude he.
So the reason he got tied intoit.

Cory (10:10):
Please tell me how this guy got this gig.

Nick (10:12):
So a lot of you might be asking the question how do you,
how does a movie starring theLooney Tunes and Michael Jordan
come together?
So in 92 and 93, there were twoSuper Bowl Nike ads Hair Jordan
and Aerospace Jordan and theyaired on TV and they featured
Michael with Bugs Bunny.
And they conceived this ideafollowing the popularity of
advertisements where Jordanplayed with Mars Blackman, spike
Lee from the character he hadfrom.

(10:33):
She's Gotta have it.
So the creative director, jimRiswold, he's the one that kind
of pushed it forward and hechose Bugs Bunny for the next
campaign because the characterwas his childhood hero Logical.
So Joe Pitka's just thecommercial guy.
They shot this the first one,hair Jordan six months is how
long it took and a milliondollars to make, because Warner
Brothers was constantly pushingback because they didn't want

(10:55):
Nike to modernize Bugs'character.
However, the commercial successof both ads kind of was a nice
bit of research for WarnerBrothers to kind of understand
that Bugs has relevance stilland there's a lot to do, that
you can tie it in with Michael.
So this led to the companygreen lighting a film featuring
Jordan and Bugs which came outof a plane meeting between Nike
executive and and then andproducer Ivan Reitman of the

(11:18):
Ghostbusters fame.
Jordan was offered movie dealspreviously but his manager,
david Falk, turned them downbecause he felt like Michael
Jordan could only act as himself, which is fair because, like,
if you see michael jordan in amovie or a tv, it's michael
jordan.
He can't.
He's also an athlete, likeathletes, turned actors.
They they're here and they'rehit and miss.
A lot of the time.
We have some wrestlers that aredoing okay, but that's a
different mold yeah you'retrying to get an athlete to do

(11:38):
something other than play asport yeah, this is pre-rock
yeah, um, this was written byleo benvenuti and steve rudnick.
They're a writing duo that'sdone things like the santa claus
okay and kicking and screamingokay, and then also timothy
harris, who did trading placesfalling down and twins falling
down like the hardcore michaeldouglas losing it.

Cory (11:56):
Yep, that's it, yep, all right.

Nick (11:59):
So if you need to know what space jam is about, if
you're new to this, I don't knowwhy you're clicking on at this
point, because we're about tojust spoil the crap out of it.
But you know, in a desperateattempt to win a basketball
match and earn their freedom,the looney tunes seek the aid of
retired basketball championmichael jordan naturally
naturally, um, this is obviouslya fictionalized account of what
happened between michaeljordan's retirement in 93 and
when he came back to playingbasketball in 95, like we talked

(12:20):
about as far as we know, as faras we know, it's a I I'm, it's
a documentary corey as far asI'm concerned this is what
happened the looney tunes cameout of retirement the looney
tunes brought back his love forthe game, and that's why we're
here right now.
That's why he has six instead ofthree titles.
It wasn't because he was bad atbaseball no, never.

Cory (12:35):
No, he was, he was doing.
Well, you know, all right he'sdoing minor leagues everybody
loved him.

Nick (12:40):
That team was selling a lot of tickets.
They were.
That was tons of tickets.
So, but and but.
That's the thing I think a lotof people don't touch on, and I
think that's why one of themagic ingredients for why this
movie works is because theyplayed with reality.
Yeah, they played with histimeline Because to compare
Space Jam and New Legacy, theLeBron movie not trying to hate
on lebron, but the problem wasis that they didn't.

(13:04):
If he had made it about, youknow, his last season in miami
and it was about him deciding togo home and try to win the
title for cleveland and makethat down from three.

Cory (13:13):
One run that would have been so much better.

Nick (13:14):
That would have been a lot better, because we're invested
in the reality right, it's themelding and it's putting it in
this very specific moment inthis athlete's life yeah and
kind of playing with thatfantasy level of it.

Cory (13:24):
I think that's why space jams lore kind of like blends
into the jordan mythos instead,it's about a father son bonding
between him and a fake kid right, I made it.
I guess it's based off his, bythe way none of lebron's kids
are computer geek nerds thatwant to build video games.

Nick (13:39):
They're both tremendous athletes they tried this, they
tried to update it, they triedto make it cool for the gen z
kids and stuff.

Cory (13:46):
The gen z didn't buy it look my kid's just like all you
nerds.
It's like your son is brawnyjames, we know he's about to go
into the draft unwarranted yourother kid is like six foot three
already and he's like 12 andhe's probably gonna be better
than brawny.

Nick (14:00):
It's a little bit ridiculous.
So, yeah, basically gory.
The answer is they madecommercials and they said this
is a fun pairing, let's make amovie about it.
And there is some discussionabout whether the director, joe
Pitka, made it or Ivan Reitmanmade it.

Cory (14:14):
I love these stories.
I love the fake director.

Nick (14:16):
So a lot of people who worked on the film, mostly the
voice actors, have all said thatIvan was the one who was the
actual director and that.
Joe Pitka was only a directorfor the animation, so for
whatever reason, pitka got themain credit.
Reitman was only credited asproducer.

Cory (14:30):
I would believe Ivan Reitman made this movie over the
guy I've never heard of, right,because it's a well-made movie.

Nick (14:35):
I feel like Pitka is the one that, like helped transition
it, because he's like heprobably had a good working
relationship with Jordan and onthe commercials and stuff,
allegedly he's the one, heclaims to be the one also that
convinced jordan to allow forthe uh, the pickup of dennis
rodman, because they were justhaving a conversation about it.
And he's like what you, youdon't want the guy who's going
to rebound the ball, so you canshoot it all the time.

Cory (14:56):
And jordan's like I just don't see jordan taking advice
from a guy who's never made amovie before, or he's made the
one movie before.
Come on, you don't believe itcommercial guy that's I don't
know.
And also the last dance tellsus anything.
It's the chicago bulls officedidn't listen to jordan a whole
lot?

Nick (15:14):
that's true, not at all.
Yeah, I feel like they just sawa guy who had a bad reputation
and they went this guy's cheapand he's really good at
rebounding.
We just lost a rebounder to themagic.
We should make this deal allright, yeah, no, I agree, I
agree so the thing about beyondthis, from a technical
standpoint the production ofthis movie is interesting.
So it's kind of up there withlike, who framed roger rabbit as

(15:36):
one of those live actionanimation combos?
Even reitman phoned up robertzemeckis and was like, hey,
we're making this movie, do you,do you have any advice?
And he just said don't do it.

Cory (15:45):
It nearly killed me.
This is a pain in the ass.

Nick (15:48):
Because the classic animation faction of Warner
Brothers.
They were the ones that weresupposed to just be responsible
for Space Jam.
However, Corey, after only oneweek, the animation work was so
complicated that Warner Brotherscontacted more studios and
reassigned people from the othermovie.
They were making quest forcamelot to space jam.
So if you're wondering whyquest for camelot suddenly dips
in quality, it turns out, bugsbunnies are really hard to

(16:11):
animate along.
Playing basketball apparently isstupid hard um production
quarry total around 19 months in10 of those were the actual
filming.
The rest of the animation iswhat I'm reading here more than
700 workers in 18 studios inlondon, canada, california and
ohio that's wild that's insane,I mean.

(16:31):
And they complained aboutpitka's uh camera style because
he would use a lot of thosedutch tilted angles and stuff
and it made it really hard forthem to like and he was shooting
with tons of cameras so theyjust never.

Cory (16:41):
It was making it hard to like animate as they were going
along and stuff yeah, but I likethe dutch angles because it's
like in toonville, yeah, and itshows you.
It's wacky, right if anything.

Nick (16:48):
If pitka is the director, like he gets it, he gets the
concept that this is looney toonland there's.
This isn't.
This isn't cinema cory.
This is bugs, bunny and michaelplaying against aliens and I, I
get, I get that.

Cory (17:00):
Just to end the whole pitka thing.
He probably directed the movieto some degree.
It's just like the Cosmatostombstone thing.
Cosmatos is there, he doesn'tknow what he's doing.
So you have this.
Actors that are like, well,we've been on 100 sets before,
we'll just kind of self-directand kind of shove him there.
And Reitman's made Ghostbustersand stuff.
He's like hey, if you havequestions, I'm right here and I
bet Pit a lot of questions he'sjust like how do I make a movie?

Nick (17:22):
he's like glad you asked that question.
Let me step in right here and,uh, make, push some gears and
stuff let me tell you something.

Cory (17:29):
Uh, none of those ghosts were real.
What?
So I know a lot about filming alive actor.

Nick (17:34):
Next, something that's not really there so just let me,
let me take the reins here for alittle bit here.
So the other thing about thismovie, like we're talking about
it did the dual live actioncartoons.
It's also one of the earliestanimated productions to use
digital technology and this iskind of one of the first of it
was that it was filmed in avirtual studio.
Michael jordan filmed in this360 degree green screen room
with motion trackers around him,green suited nba players and

(17:57):
improv actors from groundings,theater and school served as uh
placeholders for the looneytunes and stuff, and then he
just had.
The backgrounds of stuff werekeyed in later.

Cory (18:06):
So okay.

Nick (18:07):
So I say that also to think about.
You know, we talk about actors,athletes turned actors and
stuff, and if anyone is tryingto rag on this movie or try to
be like, well, michael Jordan'snot a good actor, it's like,
well, he's not an actor, but thefact that he was playing

(18:27):
against green people, yeah, saysa lot about michael jordan's
natural charisma, I think, andthat's really what they were
basing it off of.
Like we talked about earlier,it's like you can't put michael
in a movie.
It's why it's why they didn'tcast michael jordan in the air
movie that came out last year,because it's like you see
somebody that isn't michaeljordan, that you're completely
thrown out of the movie, andvice versa.
Like you have to have michaeljordan because he just has his
own natural charisma and justleans into it.
And I do think that thecommercials kind of acted as

(18:47):
like prep work for him to kindof get ready for such a big
thing.
I mean, six months on acommercial, I feel like you're
going to be ready for whateverthey throw at you and I mean
like I think they work to thoselike the weaknesses of an
athlete.

Cory (18:58):
It's most of his lines are kind of one-liners it's just
responding.
Most of the Looney Tunes aredoing all the heavy lifting and
it's just.
It works.

Nick (19:04):
It does.

Cory (19:05):
You know, I think it works .
I don't think I've seen it evenas an adult and never felt like
, ooh, this didn't age well.

Nick (19:09):
It's kind of like Hook, where I hear a lot of people say
like it's bad.
Who the hell says Hook is bad?
People say it's bad, criticssaid it was bad.

Cory (19:18):
They do.
I mean, like you have to.
You have to bash shit as acritic or you don't have a job.

Nick (19:24):
You can't just be the five-star guy.
No one's going to listen to you.

Cory (19:27):
But who the hell today that isn't just being a
contrarian on the internet hatesHook?

Nick (19:33):
I don't know, Corey.
There's nothing wrong with themovie Hook.
There's nothing wrong with it,I agree.
But there's some weird pocketwhere it's like the millennials
Hook and we love Space Jam andeverybody else scratched their
heads and went what are youtalking about?

Cory (19:44):
People who hate Hook now are probably the same people
that will watch Back to theFuture and be like I don't get
it.
This is stupid.

Nick (19:49):
Probably they're also just a bunch of adults that grew up
and they're lame now.

Cory (19:52):
Yeah, what the hell, get it together, people.
I would honestly if someonetold me they hated Hook and they
were an adult in my age, evenlike if an 18 year old, that's
whatever gen alpha.
I'm never talking to you again.
What value is there in holdinga conversation?

Nick (20:07):
depart from me.
I never knew you exactly.
It's just like get out of myface satan.

Cory (20:12):
You're just some contrarian hipster.
Go choke on your ipa.

Nick (20:15):
We're gonna sit here and enjoy our happy meals with space
jam, tie-ins with our giantcoaster cups my thing is hook
like space jam.

Cory (20:22):
It's fine.
Anyone can watch space jam andsay it's not their thing.
Sure hook though they're wrong,but hook it's like this is.
I don't even like hook fornostalgic reasons.

Nick (20:29):
It's a good, it's just a good movie, right?

Cory (20:31):
yeah, it's an incredible movie, yes, 100 so if you hate
hook, you're just a contrarianand you suck, and it must suck
to live in a life, in a worldwhere you have to hate things to
feel like smart right, so, andyou guys should go back and
listen to our our first episodeof the season, recasting hook
but anyways, and just re-watchhook.
Yeah, we know that you're wrongit's fine.

Nick (20:48):
Well, core, we talk about useless critics stats.
I'm gonna give you the rundownfor space jam.
Are you ready?
Yes, okay, so sort of when thismovie came out, the critics, or
I guess.
Just where it sits now imdb ithas a 6.5.
All right, kind of low.
But you know it is what it isrot tomatoes.
Critics gave it a 43 percentout of 100.
Okay, that's audience.

(21:09):
Audience gave it 63.
All right, so metacritic,better 59 critic and I'm not
even gonna do the stupid, it's71, 71 of 100 is what the?
grade is for uh regular filmgoers okay letterbox 3.2, 3.2
cory all right um, I had itlisted as a four have I ever
rated it?

Cory (21:27):
you have never rated it, but in your mind.

Nick (21:29):
What would?
What would you put it at um?
I would give it space jam spacejam, the michael jordan.
I'd give it three and a half.

Cory (21:35):
Okay, sure, out of five, right, yeah, out of five.

Nick (21:36):
Yeah, three and a half I was gonna note these quick two
because letterbox is full ofjust fun like-length reviews
that people have.
But somebody else pointed outthese two fun things.
Courtney B said Michael Jordanis so noble that he offers
himself into slavery in order tofree the Looney Tunes, despite
having met the Looney Tunes halfan hour ago and having a wife
and three kids at home.

Cory (21:57):
Yeah, but I mean it's like Jordan knows who they are.
He's aware.

Nick (22:01):
He knows what the stakes are.
If we don't have Looney Tunes,then we don't have joy in the
world, Corey.

Cory (22:05):
It's true.
I'm just saying it's not likehe met them.

Nick (22:09):
I mean, he met them, but he knows them.
It's not like this is hisintroduction to the.

Cory (22:11):
Looney Tunes, it's like if Michael Jordan walked in right
now.

Nick (22:28):
I would be meeting him for the first time, be like sure,
like if and if michael jordanwalked this room and said I need
you two guys to go playbaseball with me to save the
world, I'd be like, all right,this isn't great odds, no, we're
not gonna do well, I trust you.
And then the other one, sopatrick fiscar fiss, fissackerly
.
Patrick fissackerly said look,all I'm saying is you write a
movie where the looney tuneskidnap michael jordan, force him
to play basketball againstaliens.
You do a better job, go ahead.

Cory (22:46):
I mean, I just it's fair, so I feel challenged but, no,
I'm just going to say it doesn'tneed to be touched.
Yeah, it does.
I don't think it does.

Nick (22:54):
I think it fits where it does, perfectly in the 90s.
There's this perfect storm ofeverything.
Are you ready for Ebert'sthoughts?

Cory (23:06):
thoughts am?
I don't know you tell me am Iwild?
Guess I'm gonna say he gave it.
I don't know he's sounpredictable.
Yes, um, I'm gonna say he gaveit three, three point five.

Nick (23:11):
Damn so, ebert had a good time he gets it, he gets it he
had a wonderful time at the box,he said space jam is a happy
marriage of good ideas threefilms for the price of one court
, giving us a comic treatment ofthe career adventures of
michael jordan, cross with thelooney tunes cartoon and some
showbiz warfare.
The result is a delightfulfamily movie in the best sense,
which means adults will enjoy ittoo.
Hey, and even siskel.

(23:32):
He focused on his praise forjordan's performance, saying he
wisely accepted as a first moviethat builds nicely on his
personality.
In an assortment of tv ads, thesound bites are just a little
longer hey, you know what we canalso credit Jordan for doing?
What's that?

Cory (23:44):
Getting the hell out of Hollywood.
He, just he did it.
He came, he did his thing.

Nick (23:48):
He dipped and left I'm out .
He didn't feel like I gotta beon every Fast and Furious movie.

Cory (23:52):
And I guarantee you someone was there and was like
hey, we can make more, and he'slike no, they tried.

Nick (23:58):
There was a plan in place, but Michael didn't sign for a
second movie Space Jam 3?

Cory (24:02):
Or Space Jam 2.
Sorry, just recently followingLeBron, no, no, no.
Someone said LeBron made oneand people are saying it's
better Jordan's like what thehell.

Nick (24:12):
That's when I took it personally Corey.

Cory (24:14):
He's like I'm going to call Scorsese.

Nick (24:17):
He would probably pick up.
He'd be like holy shit, michaelJordan just called me.

Cory (24:20):
I've make this movie, Looks at his wife and is like
this is quite a pickle.

Nick (24:25):
I can de-age Michael Jordan.
I don't know if I can.

Cory (24:27):
I don't know if I believe in the project, but I also don't
know if I can say no to this.

Nick (24:33):
So the only person that I found generally so, chuck Jones,
famous animator, made a lot ofLooney Tunes back in the day.
He actually had some critiquesof the movie.
He had some critiques of themovie.
He said it straight, too farfrom the source material, in
particular saying that bugs hismain, yeah, yeah, yeah, his main
.
His main complaint, cory, wasthat bugs would never openly
recruit others in his battles,that he would just wipe the

(24:55):
floor with the monster himselfno way jojo, this is like.
This is like all those star warsfans that are mad that luke
skywalker got old and didn'tpull down the Star Destroyers
himself.

Cory (25:06):
Is Chuck Jones the creator of Bugs Bunny?
He's not the creator.
He's the guy that in the laterdays after the classical era.

Nick (25:10):
But yeah, I get that he was a huge part of the Looney
Tunes.

Cory (25:13):
But I, like you know what I respect the opinions he has
that he watched this movie andwas going hmm, this doesn't work
.

Nick (25:23):
This is illogical.

Cory (25:24):
I don't think Sylvester would have joined this team.

Nick (25:27):
Not my Bugs, Bunny Corey.

Cory (25:30):
Or he's just like his wife just hears him yelling and he
comes to her and he's like whatis this?
They ruined it.
Daffy and Bugs would not be onthe same team In 50 years.
When have they ever beenfriends?

Nick (25:42):
Daffy would clearly join the Monstars because there's
money involved.
He figures out that it's a hugething.
He'd sell out all the LooneyTunes for it.

Cory (25:50):
Morphin the Martian he's an alien.

Nick (25:52):
Why is he on the team?
That's why he's the referee,Corey.
Oh, he's like neutral.
Yeah, he's Switzerland in this.
All right, all right.

Cory (26:09):
He's just his opinion.
Bugs.
Bonnie would not have neededmichael jordan, but I would ask
chuck, give me the sourcematerial where he's ever played
basketball.
That's true?
I don't think it's there it'snot so yeah, bugs might just be
like man.
If this was blowing up a hunteror something, then yeah, I've
got this.

Nick (26:28):
I'm in, yeah, but this is a sport.
Yeah, we're going to add someviolence to it because we're
Looney Tunes, but we've got tofollow some rules here.
There's some guidelines.

Cory (26:36):
He would hate what they're making now, where they're all
you know.

Nick (26:41):
They're friends.
Yeah, they share a leasetogether.
Where's the dynamite?
So, corey, so the budget?
So the budget for this moviewas 80 million, which is a lot
for back in the day in the 90s,yeah, but domestically it
debuted at 27.5 million, toppingthe box office.
It ended up making 250 millionworldwide.
Yeah, they got their money back.
It's the highest grossingbasketball film of all time,

(27:03):
corey, are you serious?
And it's also the highestgrossing Looney Tunes film.

Cory (27:06):
Suck it, lebron, suck it.
This is another thing Jordancan call him.
That's why he's the scout, Ihope.
Oh, michael Jordan just calledLeBron when all the numbers came
back in for Space Jam 2 andsaid Still not on my level.

Nick (27:26):
Call me when you get that top, that top spot and LeBron's
like can I make another movie?
What are the?
What's Mickey Mouse doing?
What are the Muppets doing?

Cory (27:30):
and, like I respect LeBron , he is playing better
basketball than any 40 year oldshould, yeah, absolutely.
But I love that it thisprobably ate at him a little bit
just couldn't quite get there.
Mj hangs up.

Nick (27:41):
He's like so in other media.
So yeah, so this thing, it wasa big deal cory it was, it was
an event, for I mean our age,for beyond the movie there was,
there was merchandise beingdelved out.
I mean this movie.
Cory the space jam franchise isestimated to have generated six
billion in total revenue.

(28:02):
This includes air jordans, bugs, bunny shirts, happy meals,
bugsy bogues, jerseys and likekids stuff for tweeters probably
wasn't selling, probably not.

Cory (28:11):
It boosted his sales a lot and that's why not sean bradley
.

Nick (28:13):
Huh, no, sean bradley.
Well, I mean it wasn't listedin the small amount of things,
like I couldn't list everythingthat it made money off of it,
but even the legacy of thismovie, cory.
Even the film's website, spacejamcom, was created 96, along
with promotion of the movie.
It remained unchanged butactive for years, and it got
re-brought up because ofaresurgence around 2010 as a
historical artifact of the earlydays of the web, because this

(28:33):
thing's like if you made yourown website geo city.
Yeah yes, it looks likesomething a middle schooler made
in their computer science classwith gifs and stuff and
everything like.
It's insane that's awesome um,the accompanying video game.
It was a PS1.
I'm surprised I didn't justrent the crap out of this game,
but it's a clone of NBA Jam andyou basically play through the
game and there's also mini gamesat the ends of quarters and

(28:54):
stuff.

Cory (28:54):
Oh, okay.

Nick (28:54):
It's pretty fun.
Corey, I'm going to ask youreal quick what does Space Jam
mean to you?

Cory (29:00):
Again, it's just an event.
Man, I was like 11.
I was 10 going on 11 in 1996.
And I was just, by the way,1986 when I got into basketball
heavily Like, obviously,jordan's a big thing, jordan's a
big thing, but I live inOklahoma, on the border of Texas
and the.
Dallas Cowboys were a biggerthing.

Nick (29:16):
Like, I feel like in the In the region.

Cory (29:18):
In.
Like my parents, they weren'tin football, so it's like I
didn't really care that much.
You know, I was like alrightand I think I liked the Steelers
, just despite my parents infifth grade.
And they're still, to this day,my favorite football team.
It's never changed but, likeyou're aware of Jordan, right.
And then, like in 1986, thatdraft class happens and, like my

(29:39):
favorite player gets drafted, Igot really into Allen Iverson
in fifth grade and then, like,obviously, kobe bryant comes out
of that, steve nash comes outof jason kidd ray allen, you
know come out of that draftclass and so um and uh.
So I got really into basketball.
So this was a big deal it wasan event.
I remember it very much.
You watched it in theaters Iabsolutely watched it in

(30:00):
theaters and anyone who missedout miss seeing it in theaters
missed, like the quintessentialexperience of being a millennial
kid cory, uh, I have a story totell you.

Nick (30:13):
Shoot.

Cory (30:14):
I may have told this story before on the podcast, but
since it's the space, since it'sthe space jam podcast, I feel
this is the biggest betrayalthat ever went through, possibly
in his life, possibly ever.

Nick (30:26):
This is long story short.
Basically, I don't get to go tomovies very often as a kid,
cory, because you were from ashelter, because I was from a
sheltered upbringing cory and mybuddy that I went to church
with for his birthday he wouldtake his friends to go watch a
movie.
Year before this we go see toystory perfect, awesome awesome
amazing, caught that moment, gotit, nailed it and this year
space champs coming out corycory.

(30:46):
When I'm hyped for a movie as akid, I'm buying the magazine,
I'm begging for the magazines orI'm reading them on the shelf
while I'm waiting I'm parentsare like talking rabbits.

Cory (30:55):
What is this?
What's going on?
Looney tootie michael jordan.

Nick (30:59):
I don't know I, cory, I bought the because I had to wait
till it came out on VHS, andI'll get to why.
Because I bought like thescholastic read along book, like
from like those old.

Cory (31:09):
That was a good loophole, if you wanted a book that your
parents weren't like.
Cool about.
I bought.

Nick (31:13):
Like those scary story like the most banned book ever,
those scary story books.

Cory (31:16):
I got them in the scholastic and I was like I got
these from school because, likeI, could.

Nick (31:20):
I could tell you Toy Story , space Jam and Phantom Men.
I had like novelization, kidsnovelization of all three of
those, because I had to waittill all those movies generally
came out on VHS.
But I saw Toy Story because ofmy friend and then Space Jam was
coming out.
We were all so hyped.
I was so hyped about it Gettingready Love Looney Tunes, love
Michael Jordan, the week beforeCorey he changes his mind.

(31:42):
It turned out.
It was a good movie.
It's a holiday classic.

Cory (31:45):
You hated it.
I was, like that whole time, soupset.
Probably hated ArnoldSchwarzenegger more than
anyone's ever had.
My mom's, like my mom's likeit's his birthday.

Nick (31:54):
He has to.
You gotta let him choose.
And I'm like you're right, nomovie but, and I remember he's
like, see guys, it was good,right, and we're watching people
walk out of space and they'relike dribbling on each other,
like that was so cool.

Cory (32:12):
Oh my gosh.
And we're just like space jamman, but space jam.
But you know I okay.
When arnold schwarzenegger'swife found out he knocked up and
impregnated their nanny, I betyou still hated arnold
schwarzenegger more than she.
No, that's his like, real life.

Nick (32:24):
Oh, okay, I was like I remember that part of Jingle all
the way.

Cory (32:29):
But I'm just saying you probably hated Arnold more
Weirdly.

Nick (32:30):
I didn't hate Arnold, I just, I was just upset at the
situation you had to be seething.

Cory (32:34):
I was seething in my eight-year-old body, were you
wearing like a Jordan jerseyjust at a protest, if I just, oh
man, turbo man, all right, hey,we've cast recasted that too.
Go check that out.

Nick (32:47):
Yeah, for sure, but in too many movies but to wrap it all
up, it has a happy, glimmerousending because, you know, when
it did come out, my mom rentedit on pay-per-view back when he
had to get the box and watch it,and my cousins came over we had
pizza.
It was a perfect 90s night andit was.
It was legitimate.
So there was some justice inthe end there, for sure.
But yeah, this is kind of a bigdeal for us growing up.

Cory (33:06):
It was a massive moment a little bit.

Nick (33:09):
So we're on a little long here on the front end, but we
have a lot to talk about.

Cory (33:12):
Yeah, it's space jam, so let's not kid ourselves the
legacy of space jam.

Nick (33:17):
They've.
Obviously they had space jam uh, a new legacy with lebron, but
before that there were othermovies they tried to make in the
Space Jam franchise.
Corey, are you ready for these?

Cory (33:25):
yes.

Nick (33:26):
So, after Space Jam 1, they, like I said, they talked
about Space Jam 2, where Jordanwould come back with the Looney
Tunes and play Against an alienvillain named berserk.
Oh they, he did not agree tostar in the sequel and they just
canceled plans.
So then they, so then theiridea.

Cory (33:38):
It's like right here guys.

Nick (33:41):
So he says they pivot instead into this movie called
spy jam starring Jackie Chan.

Cory (33:48):
That did not get made I'm aware I would have seen it.

Nick (33:51):
We would all seen it, but that became looney tunes.
Back in action with brendanfrazier um, a prop it's I.
I liken it to the muppets, youknow, in the 90s they had
christmas carol, the muppettreasure island.
They had this formula addpopular actor into this timeless
tale, classic.
And then after that they werelike no, we're just gonna go
back to like, we're not gonna dothis again.

(34:11):
And it's kind of the problemthat Space Jam is having.
It's like they have the ideas,are like we're going to do Race
Jam with Jeff Gordon or Golf Jamwith Tiger Woods or Skate Jam
with Tony Hawk, and all thosewere discussed, never happened.
And then LeBron gets Justin Lin, the director famous for Fast
and Furious movies, to makeSpace Jam a new legacy in 2021.
Space Jam, a new legacy in 2021.
I will also throw out that atie into this.

(34:32):
For the original Space Jam theyhad the Teen Titans show.
Teen Titans Go did like thismovie where they literally just
watch the movie and commented onit.
So it's kind of like the what'sthat?
The show where they watch allthe old horror movies and
mystery science.

Cory (34:44):
Thank you.

Nick (34:45):
Mystery science theater.
I was thinking.
I was like what is the name ofthat?
I can't remember.
So they did that.
But that's pretty much thelegacy of Space Jam and
currently I don't know if it'scurrent, current or it's the
last couple years, but directorMalcolm Dealy, known mainly for
Undercover Brother, if you watchthat classic has discussed a
sequel moving into theprofessional wrestling world
with Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

Cory (35:04):
I mean at this point, I think they've missed that.
I think they did too Rock'smaking A24 movies.

Nick (35:13):
He's in his Please take me seriously face of life.

Cory (35:14):
You could do cena, john cena maybe, but he's perfect,
other than he says fuck a lotnow in peacemaker shows.
So does michael jordan.
Um yeah, but at the time no atthe time.

Nick (35:23):
No, he was very squeaky clean.
Yeah, they're really good onthat.
We'd bet we silence button onlive games we don't want to talk
about that gambling addiction.
Nothing at all, nothing at all,nothing at all.
See here Awards-wise, corey.
It won an Annie Award for BestIndividual Achievement and
Technical Achievements and itgot Grammys for Best Song for a
Motion Picture.
I Believe I Can Fly.

Cory (35:42):
It didn't win the Oscar for Best.

Nick (35:43):
Song.
It didn't win the Oscar forBest Song.

Cory (35:45):
Listen again, despite the horrible connotations that come
with it now I mean that's, it'sa cory.

Nick (35:50):
This song was big.
Space jam was big.
This was the other piece of itcore.
The soundtrack was just as bigit was.
I'm gonna look that up itbecause core this is and this is
the.
You know we've already talkedabout r kelly and sat infamously
.

Cory (36:03):
Now is uh canceled, as he should be, and he committed
horrible crimes and filmed them,so it's not really up for
debate, it's not there's nodiscussion about it, but this
song and it's so.

Nick (36:12):
I think the reason it's so painful is because this song
has like been played in churches.
People have covered it likeit's a big deal, like it's one
of those like feel good songs ofthe 90s and it's it's a shame
that when it comes on you'relike am I okay to sing this?
Are we okay to sing this?
Is it okay?
What did you find?
Did you find anything?

Cory (36:27):
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Man, it wasn't even nominatedfor Best Original Song.

Nick (36:34):
And you're talking about the Oscars for that year, right?

Cory (36:36):
Yeah.

Nick (36:36):
Because it would have been in 97 was when the Oscars would
have happened.

Cory (36:39):
Yeah, that's right, I'm in 97.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the 69thAcademy Awards, yeah.

Nick (36:43):
What are the nominees?

Cory (36:44):
They have me.
Okay, listen straight up.
The hell, I'm mad.
It's that's.
How does it not get nominated?
That song was everywhere, okay,well, just to tell you that
thing, you do got robbed by avita.

Nick (36:58):
A vita, oh my god.
Yeah, you must love me in avita.
That's madonna, right?

Cory (37:00):
yes, yeah is that a madonna movie no one saw, I mean
we didn't, because we were.

Nick (37:05):
We were eight and eleven.
It's fine, it's fine, it's fineit's not seriously.

Cory (37:10):
I don't even know what.

Nick (37:11):
The mirror has two faces, one a song from one fine day got
nominated, which is a fantasticmovie.

Cory (37:17):
Oh, is it okay, but it's a rom-com, right like a romantic
it's kind of like almost adramedy okay, all, right, okay
but I'll say this I couldn'ttell you the song, and I've seen
that movie at least a dozentimes, but I don't know the song
.
Okay, but I know I believe Ican fly.

Nick (37:33):
Yes, we all know it.

Cory (37:34):
I don't even know the Aveda song.
That's not coming to my head.

Nick (37:37):
Don't cry for me.
Argentina Is that it.

Cory (37:39):
No, it's called you Must Love Me.
Oh, okay, never mind, Iapologize you ass.

Nick (37:44):
Anyway.
I mean, the English patient wonbest picture from that year and
Jerry Maguire was popular Vargowas nominated.

Cory (37:50):
This is okay, alright, we gotta move on.
We gotta move on.
That was like indie time.
We were really in indie time.

Nick (37:56):
For sure, for sure.
Needless to say, the otherelement of this was the music
was huge.
They literally played throughthe whole soundtrack at the end
because they're like we have somany good songs we can't pick
just one.
It's a great movie.
I love it to death Because itdoes.
It brings that childhood loveof the Looney Tunes with Michael
Jordan which kind of acted, Ithink, for a lot of 90s kids,
especially in our area, as agateway to the NBA, to

(38:19):
basketball, when we were growingup, and now you and I will
reference basketball on thepodcast and stuff and we felt
like it was a necessity torecast it and talk about it on
here.
Yeah, so before we dive intothe casting, casting cory.

Cory (38:32):
Yeah because we, since we take it to two different years,
we're not going to break downany right, we're not, definitely
not gonna break down two years.

Nick (38:37):
No, no, not at all.

Cory (38:37):
Also since we're in a basketball season, we have to
break down two years a piece.

Nick (38:40):
Yes, yeah, not doing that, not doing that sorry about you,
but we're running, we're tryingto give this decent time length
, not three hours later, so whatwe're doing, cory.
So do you want me to break itdown for everybody?

Cory (38:50):
Yeah, break it down.

Nick (38:51):
Break it down so normally we have our cast list.
We go through it.
We have a lot of smaller castpeople that are 30 seconds or
less that we quickly run through.
Today again, corey and I havepicked a NBA superstar from past
and present, from differenteras, beyond Michael Jordan's
time, and we're going to build aSpace Jam roster around him.
He's still playing with thelooney tunes, they're still
playing against the monsters,but we're picking our for lack

(39:13):
of a better discussion, ourmichael jordan of that of that
period, and then we're pickingthe five players that are turned
into the monsters.
And then we've got two peoplefrom the real world that we're
casting in bill murray and wayneknight's character, stan podlak
yeah.

Cory (39:27):
so like, mainly what we're doing is we are straight up
saying what is we're doing?
What we did on normal podcast,but instead of saying, like,
what would the Matrix look likein 1971?
Yeah, it would be terriblebecause there's no Internet.
But we're saying what wouldSpace Jam look like in this
other star's era?

Nick (39:44):
if it's made around that person.
Yes, exactly, for sure.
Yeah, because that's what we dohere on Quantum Recast we take
movies forwards and backwardsand sideways in time.

Cory (39:52):
So yeah, because that's what we do here on Quantum
Recast we take movies forwardsand backwards and sideways in
time.
So again, a brief rundown ofSpace Jam.
What we need, nick, is we needan all-star basketball player to
carry this film and put us inseats.
Right, we need to cast acomedic assistant that's just
faithfully loyal to him, that heliterally goes into a cartoon
land.
You got it.
We need a famous friend.

Nick (40:09):
Yes.
A famous celebrity friend, thatwe need a famous friend, yes, a
famous celebrity friend thatnobody asks the question why
he's playing golf with michaeljordan, larry, bird and charles,
not none other than I know billmurray does love golf.
That's true, I'm aware of that,but that is the only reason,
yeah I can think of that.

Cory (40:21):
He's in this movie.
It's as weird as dan akroydbeing a part of we are the world
yes it's no one ask why we justlet it have.
The ghostbusters are justallowed to go where the hell
they want.
Yeah, and we just don't askyeah, and so and then we need
five other players that wererivals to our respective
All-Star to be the villainbasketball team.
You got it.
That's what we need.

(40:41):
Yes, okay, and we don't have todo anything else.

Nick (40:43):
Nothing else.

Cory (40:47):
The Looney.

Nick (40:47):
Tunes stay as is.
We're just going to say DannyDeVito.
He's been around almost as longas the Looney Tunes, so no
matter where we took it, hecould still be Swaghammer, he
could still voice it.
Man, yeah, he could still bethe bad guy.
Take it back to the 70s, he'sin Taxi.
Jesse is fist pumping right nowsomewhere.

Cory (40:59):
Danny DeVito is, was and always will be Swaghammer.

Nick (41:02):
Swaghammer forever.
But one thing I was going realquick yeah, I, I had some, some
free time strangely in my lifeand I asked myself the question
I was like what would thesoundtrack look like in the
respective years we're going?

Cory (41:16):
to without telling me who your all-star is, because we're
not casting yet.
What year are you?

Nick (41:20):
in.
I'm going, so I'm doing a weirdthing.
I'm going to 2021.
Okay, most people that arespace jam fans will go.
Well, nick, that's when lebronmade space jam was like space
jam legacy doesn't exist in ouralternate reality.

Cory (41:30):
It doesn't.

Nick (41:30):
Because this is where this is, as if Michael never made it
.
This is as if it's being maderight now, so I'm taking it to
2021.

Cory (41:35):
Okay.

Nick (41:36):
Now my soundtrack.
I'm sitting there trying toredact all this stuff, so I'm
sitting there thinking you know,Space Jam by the Quad City DJs
it's on Jock Jams for the past30 years.

Cory (41:49):
That's also a big deal.
It's a big deal.

Nick (41:51):
Yeah, it was on everything .
Every basketball game played it.

Cory (41:53):
Whoop there it is it's not from this movie, right?
No, it's not.
I was like jeez.

Nick (41:58):
But I thought you know you take the DJ group Justice and
you let Rihanna sing the songover it.

Cory (42:05):
Okay, yeah.

Nick (42:06):
I think it fits pretty well.
Fly Like an Eagle.
You gave me the Weeknd to singit instead of Seal.

Cory (42:10):
Fly Like an Eagle is from this sound track that was
supposed to be the big hit.

Nick (42:13):
He thought that was going to be the one, and then R Kelly
had some words of inspiration.

Cory (42:17):
I believe I Can Fly came out.

Nick (42:18):
Now if we were playing this super safe, corey, given
the allegations, not theallegations, the convictions
that have happened.
I would give you Kirk Franklin.

Cory (42:25):
Okay.

Nick (42:35):
And just hopefully and everybody's fine.
But I'm gonna go frank oceanokay, because he's also great
and people should listen to himmore.
But the real one I jumped intowas the hit them high monster's
anthem.
That nobody talks about is theraps single on it that pretty
much has five different peopleon it.
It has be real coolio methodman ll, cool j and buster rhymes
.
You can't find it on spotify,you gotta find it on youtube
because I guess of copyright andstuff like that.
But it's, it's basically theirtheme.
If you hear it it's when theycome out in the game as well.
But if I was giving you mylineup for that song, cory, I'm

(42:56):
giving you denzel curry, littlewayne tyler, the creator, k dot,
kendrick lamar himself and ofcourse, shady eminem, because
it's the monster's.

Cory (43:06):
So okay that's who I'm giving you um thoughts and
concerns I don't have any okay,it seems like you really gave
that a lot of thought.

Nick (43:13):
I did.
That's how my mind works, Corey.
I'm sorry.

Cory (43:16):
I did not do this.

Nick (43:17):
That's okay.

Cory (43:18):
But I can tell you right now I'm an 89-90.

Nick (43:20):
Okay, cool.

Cory (43:21):
So you're looking at an album just Vanilla Ice, mc
Hammer, and probably we're goingto let one of the hair bands
get a rock song in there beforenirvana kills them.

Nick (43:30):
In two years it'll be a very different space jam album.

Cory (43:33):
Thank you, we're talking like poison or bon jovi probably
gets a song because kurt cobainhasn't murdered their careers
yet that's true.

Nick (43:39):
So well, I think you could go with a lot of like that late
80s.
I mean, they're not gonna letnwa I feel like nwa would be
perfect first of all, I thinkthey're broken up.
Mainly ice cubes out by now Imean I, I think Hit Em High is
literally just, it's an NWAstyle song, just for a PG
cartoon.

Cory (43:54):
I mean they wrote Express Yourself Like they can do this.
For sure, for sure.
Yeah, it's just like hey, canwe tone it down?

Nick (44:02):
Or you do like some mix mash of the remaining members of
NWA, the Beastie Boys and RunDMC.

Cory (44:08):
I like the idea of NWA doing this in 90, because Ice
Cube's gonna tear them a new oneon his next album for being
involved in this.
So, honestly, dre may not havea career.
His credibility might just begone if he does this so it'll be
fine.
I don't know, if it's fine,then we don't get Eminem, we
don't get cool headphones, ohyou're right, we don't, yeah.

Nick (44:27):
Okay, all right, we don't even get Kendrick Lamar
potentially yeah so like, let's,we'll just Never mind.

Cory (44:31):
Yeah, corey, stop talking, you're off the record.

Nick (44:34):
Okay, so let's actually dive into the casting here.
So we're going to do itdifferently.
So obviously, everything isbuilt off of who we are picking
for our superstar.

Cory (44:41):
Yes, we're actually going to start there, right.

Nick (44:46):
Yeah, we're going to start there and build from there, so
turn off after this movie's gotto be built around this, yeah
you got to hear why we put thepeople around this individual,
exactly, exactly casted everyoneelse first it's like, it's,
it's like okay, you can probablyjust guess what we're right.

Cory (44:58):
Yeah, for sure then it'd be anticlimactic yes.

Nick (45:01):
So, corey, I'm gonna let you go first.
Who is your?

Cory (45:04):
nba superstar.
Now you're going post or prejordan era, or at Michael Jordan
, who is your NBA superstar.

Nick (45:15):
Now you're going post or pre-Jordan era, or at least the
dynasties, right?

Cory (45:18):
So is this where I can talk about some of my
considerations?
Sure, All right, Because wekind of talked we didn't want to
land in the same era.

Nick (45:25):
Yeah yeah.

Cory (45:26):
So we said like we need to do at least one pre one post or
go outside of the box.

Nick (45:29):
Yeah, yeah.

Cory (45:31):
I tried to do two outside of the box ideas first, okay One
, I thought same fricking year,but we don't do Jordan.

Nick (45:38):
Like, what if we just don't have the budget?
He's really focused on baseball, that kind of attraction.

Cory (45:42):
You know, like or like, this might be more of a 97, 98,
you know, type of thing.
Taking my all-time favoritebasketball player, allen Iverson
, one rookie of the year in 96,destined for absolute greatness.
Unfortunately he's on that listof all-time greats that didn't
win a ring.

Nick (45:57):
Hey Barkley's there.
He's in great company.

Cory (46:02):
He's part of this draft class.
That's probably the best NBAdraft class of all time.
I know there's some 2003purists out there, but this was
Allen Iverson, steve Nash, kobeBryant, ray Allen Kidd.
I mean it's just a massive.

Nick (46:13):
You can keep going and add things like HS, stoyakovich,
jermaine O'Neal.

Cory (46:16):
Stefan Marbury.

Nick (46:18):
Derek Fisher, Sharif Abdul-Rahim All of our movie
fans are just losing.
They're like I don't know whothey're talking about.

Cory (46:23):
We've lost all credibility , All of our sports fans are
like yeah, 96 was a solid draftclass.

Nick (46:31):
And they just you know they clink their Budweiser's
together.

Cory (46:34):
But you didn't go with that I didn't, because it just
seemed it's just in the same eraand I don't know.
It's just, it would have beenweird, that's fair.
I don't know if Iverson can act.
He turned out to be a reallycool guy who is the most humble.
He has this massive legacy.
He has this massive legacy.
He's probably gotten theclosest to recreating a jordan,
one type of shoe, in terms of aniconic shoe.
We talked about this it's himand jordan there's really not a

(46:55):
third person checknosis.

Nick (46:57):
And then you have kobe and lebron shoes, but that's more
because they're just becausethey're lebron and kobe, but all
the shoes look way different.
It's just so weird.

Cory (47:02):
Whereas like, iverson's question just has a thousand
different colorways yeah likethe jordan one and so, but like
again, it's just kind of like Idon't know.
So then I said, what about theWNBA?

Nick (47:14):
It's getting hot right now .
We're all in.

Cory (47:17):
Let's see this happen.
Caitlin Clark has been fed tothe lines, like I mean they have
just thrown her out there.

Nick (47:23):
We don't hate her.
Elbows are in the ring I don'tknow what you're talking about.

Cory (47:34):
ESPN the only clips they ever show.
It's not her hitting threes.
She has amazing stats, she doesrookie she does.
We don't see any of that.
They're like, hey, look at this, this is kelsey plum.
Just like punched her right inthe jaw.
It's like angel reeseclothesline, you know.
And it's just like.
It's like okay, we'reconcentrating on the negative,
you know but again it would belike if you were gonna do it now
like there is actually like aworld where you're like, hey,
wmba, we've got a lot oftraction, let's make, make a
movie.
But the problem is I don't knowif you do Caitlin Clark.
Okay, she's still like unproven, she's still a rookie, she's

(47:55):
just honestly, probably the mostfamous WNBA star right now.

Nick (47:58):
Yeah, yeah.

Cory (47:59):
But of course now we're digging in and we're going like
oh, kelsey Plum's good, oh nice.
She just got to do the threelike maybe one of them, rihanna
stewart might have been one of.

Nick (48:10):
You know the one to go.

Cory (48:11):
Britney grinder's definitely a monster, you know
like she's the sean bradleymonster because she's huge yeah
so she's like seven feet tall,so um, but like it's just too
soon, it's too soon and I don'tknow enough I'm still.

Nick (48:23):
I'm like everyone else.
I'm learning, we're learning,we're progressing, we're getting
, we're learning about all thesenew people and all the older
veteran players the CameronBrinks we knew about, dion
Taurasi, the Becky Hammonds ofthe world.

Cory (48:36):
But I'll say this.
Let me ask you this one on thesubject Did you have a
subscription to SportsIllustrated for kids?

Nick (48:40):
I did not.
Our school library did.

Cory (48:43):
I did.
I don't know how I swung thatwith my parents.

Nick (48:53):
It's probably one of the best gets.
I got as a kid somehow, and soI remember the wmba okay being
created because sports for kidswas behind it.
Yeah, hard.
Okay, I do remember that thatthey really pushed it hard, like
girls play basketball andyou're like yeah, they do.

Cory (49:00):
Partly our fault, it didn't catch on I guess so and
also the fact that the gamescame on while we were in school
also.
Yeah, also so um, but so Idecided all right, I'm not gonna
be outside the box, nick.
I went pre Okay, pre-jordan89-90?
, but not before he's drafted.

Nick (49:16):
Okay.

Cory (49:16):
He's in the league he's going through his Caitlin Clark
runs.
He is he's like.

Nick (49:20):
Well, at that point he's won.
I believe he's won an MVP, he'swon scoring titles, he's taken
the Boston to the limit.

Cory (49:33):
But it's too good, right?
How can we destroy magic andburn or not done?
Who the hell is this guy andwho does he think he is?
Is the narrative?
Yes, in the late 80s, withjordan for sure like this guy is
overstepping his damnboundaries, you know and uh, no
one's seen anything like him.
However, one of my all-timefavorite.
I'd put him in my top five okayplayers yeah, still stood in
the way.
It was the last thing thatstood in Jordan's way oh.

(49:53):
Isaiah Thomas.

Nick (49:55):
Okay.

Cory (49:56):
Michael Jordan probably hates more than life itself.

Nick (49:58):
He does.
He hates him more than Kendrickhates Drake.
Hates this man, yes.

Cory (50:02):
But probably one of the greatest point guards of all
time is Isaiah Thomas.
He was part of the Pistons inthe late 80s.

Nick (50:09):
Yes.

Cory (50:10):
The Bad Boy Pistons, which is my all-time favorite NBA
team, is the 89 through 91Pistons.
Dennis Rodman's there.
It's his rookie team.
It's Bill Lambeer.
I love Bill Lambeer.
He's just a weird preppy whitedude who was just an absolute
dick.
His entire play style is justthrowing elbows and just taking

(50:31):
people to the ground.
He played so dirty and I loveit and so, like, I love this
team and if you need to knowanything about the pistons is
they created this thing calledthe jordan rules which is
essentially beat the shit out ofmichael jordan comes in the
paint, he's not.

Nick (50:46):
He's not going to take him out, he's not landing on his
feet yes, it was trying to hurtthe guy, which it's yes, which
only made him stronger.
This is the thing they created,the jordan rules, which in turn
created michael jordan so ifanyone's mad about the 90s run
by michael jordan, point to thedetroit pistons made the monster
that would go on to win sixalmost consecutive almost if he

(51:09):
didn't do baseball right the guymay be looking at seven, eight,
maybe eight straightchampionships wild so they
created the man yes he got past,he, he transcended bird magic
and then, all of a sudden, thistiny point guard got in his way
and won two championships andbeat magic for him too.
Yes, yep, he went througheverybody.

Cory (51:29):
Yeah, no, isaiah thomas went through bird yep, he went
through everybody.
Yeah, no, isaiah thomas wentthrough bird jordan and magic,
which is crazy to think aboutphenomenal.
And then he almost beat magicjohnson in 88 on a bum ankle he
did?

Nick (51:39):
he essentially played on one foot, nearly beat.
If anybody other than jerrywest deserved an mvp on a losing
team oh, it was him.

Cory (51:45):
It was isaiah thomas.
Yeah, it was him.

Nick (51:47):
So okay, so I don't want to dive too deep into that
because it's intriguing, but I Igotta hear.
Hear the rest of it first.
But I'm going to give you minebefore we dive into that.
So I moved to 2021.
I'm giving you not LeBron, I'mgiving you Steph Curry, corey,
who arguably the best player oflebron's era.

Cory (52:03):
The best is the meme.
The meme is the best player oflebron's era, which is hard to
argue.
It's the.
Thing is it's an actual debateright.

Nick (52:15):
But the logic behind it was obviously I don't want to
pick lebron because he's alreadyhad his movie come out and
stuff.
I could have gone down thatpath and be like if I was going
to do it the right way, this isthe way I would have done it.
We kind of were discussed thatwith the cleveland thing yeah,
and you're a jordan, acolyte?
yeah, yes, this is a jordanhouse, corey, in case you
haven't noticed, um, but I thinkkind of playing into the same
ideas with with jordan, wheresteph has already come out of

(52:35):
three titles, one without kd2with him and in this period of
time in in 19 he loses clay toinjury, he injures his hand for
a while and is out and then kdleaves for the, for the nets.
So it's kind of a low periodfor him.
So I think that this is a greatmoment for him to uh, it's
great for a story in terms ofthat character being at their
lowest point and having to comeout of it.
And if we remember, there wasthe doubts that were going on,

(52:56):
the pundits and all them weresaying like, well, he's won
three titles, but is he part ofa system he's never won the
finals mv.
Two of those are because KD wasthere.
They already had the winningestteam in history that lost to
LeBron.
So I want to put it in thatspot and kind of like before he
wins the title in 22.

Cory (53:11):
Before he gets his title, where they shut everyone up,
gets his groove back basicallyis where I'm going to, for sure,
other ones that I considered.

Nick (53:17):
You know, I did think about Kobe, but I thought more
about Kobe and Shaq, so aboutkobe and shack.

Cory (53:26):
Ah, so I thought maybe it's a thing either before they
win their first title.
The narrative is it's about howthey can't get along, right?
Yeah, exactly in the looneytunes make them friends.

Nick (53:31):
You got it yeah, or you flip it and make it more and
it's after they've left.
Then they hate each other andlooney tunes like we have to get
the best teammates of all time,and so they pull them together
and they in it.
They, you know, begrudginglypull together to help the looney
tunes win the game and at theend they have a more of a
respect for each other at theend.
So now.

Cory (53:49):
So shack has turned out to be a pretty cool guy yeah in
his later, like he's very humblehe obviously gives a lot of his
money away and all this stuffand he's really cool dude.
Now um, but back in his days hewas very self-confessed, petty
right you could make it to wherethey get kobe and jack's.
Like they chose kobe and he goesand joins the team he's the

(54:10):
villain and they're like yourealize, the end of the world
and humanity is like enslaved,if you, if you win.
And he's like I don't care, I'mbeating kobe bryant, I'm the
best laker it's there's a lot ofof fun options with those two
that you could have.

Nick (54:25):
but I thought like the feel good kind of ending or like
the post now that we don't haveKobe anymore, like having a
moment where they're likerespecting each other again and
they kind of are friends again,is nice, cause they did come to
terms at the end before it wasover.
But the other, the third optionI kind of thought of, was more
of the individual accolade kindof thing, you thing.
You know, there's the yanastory, the dirk nowitzki story.
The one that I thought was mostfun would be kawaii, just

(54:46):
because it's kawaii and he'shilarious, like he's so awkward
is all get out and you just puthim in the looney tune world he
would not, I don't know.
He seems like he might be calmright and if you're like look
around going, all right but it'slike he gets a little bit of
looney tuneness and that's whathelps him win that game.
Seven shot against the Sixersthat bounced like six times for
winning the rim.
And that's the story you kindof build it to when he goes to

(55:06):
Toronto.

Cory (55:07):
I just see the scene where he sucked through the golf hole
ends up in like sees all thechaos like watches Sylvester
Stallone or like Sylvester thecat, sorry, like hit something
with a hammer and him just go.
It does this weird laugh?

Nick (55:19):
I think you it's like 2019 and you lean hard into like the
weirdness and then he's justsuper weird.
Yeah, you, nicholas cage, koalaand like, and you make things,
you make since he's in toronto,you make his assistant drake,
who's just going out of his way,to like.
Try to do everything for himhe's like I can play basketball.

Cory (55:34):
I guess I'm good.
I'm slow and that's finebecause we're before tendrick
lamar right destroys him and andouts him yes, but anyway.

Nick (55:43):
So you've picked isaiah thomas, I have picked steph
curry.
So before we pick the monsters,tell me who is the assistant
that you're going with.
I may not be very tall, but I'mslow and large and it's dark way
night plays stan podolak tojust a great effect.
He's so miserably like, doingwhatever he can to make jordan's
life easy.
He literally like, is trying todrive him in his crappy car but

(56:05):
he, he literally follows him toLooney Tunes land to try to
help him and save him.
And does join the team, getsflattened and blown up.
He's the most Looney Tuneshuman I've ever seen.
At this point, yeah.
But Wayne Knight does a goodjob.

Cory (56:15):
And he's on a run here, he's in Seinfeld and he's
Jurassic Park, and so he he'sdefinitely a recognizable face
and name yeah, some notes Iwanted to just point out about
this particular character.

Nick (56:26):
You know was, according to pitka, it was difficult to get
most actors involved just due tothe odd premise of space jam.
Um, his choices were michael jfox or chevy chase, but warner
brothers rejected both of themfor some reason.
Jason alexander also turneddown the role speaking of
seinville people and matthewbroderick was ivan reitman's
second choice for stan I don'tsee that I don't see I don't see

(56:47):
a lot of those for thatcharacter well, especially not
the.
I feel like they really leanedinto the desperate, like kind of
dweebish side of things whenwayne knight took over the
character.

Cory (56:55):
Okay, I'll give you my two or I.
I was down to two okay okay, Ithought initially I just said
I'm gonna pull someone else fromtv at the time that's on a good
TV show.

Nick (57:05):
And.

Cory (57:05):
I thought Dave Coulier it's Joey from Full House who in
the movie is obsessed with theLooney Tunes, does a lot of
voices.

Nick (57:13):
It could be a lot of fun.

Cory (57:15):
But Full House is only in its first season.
That's the problem, it's notcaught on yet, so I went with
Paul Rubens Pee Wee Hermanhimself not as Pee Wee, by any
means, but playing just a funlike crazy but he's going to do
have a ton of fun when it getsto like Toon World and he's got
a jersey on.

Nick (57:35):
I just feel like there's going to be some point that you
have to make some Pee Weereference.
Oh yeah absolutely, becauselike it would be a lost
opportunity if he's not eitherin the suit or it's just
something, or just as the voice.

Cory (57:45):
yeah, at some point yeah, and so like I think that's what
it is okay you know, and so, um,I I went with paul rubens
because at this point he isestablished, he is.
It is at the height of pbherman.
He has not been.
He is still a year from beingarrested in the theater from the
incident, um, but yeah okay,okay.

Nick (58:03):
I almost wish you had picked him as the bill murray
character and it was just himbeing like.
Perhaps I could be of someassistance that would have been
good too.

Cory (58:11):
Um, you're gonna find my uh bill murray uh choice
slightly odd.

Nick (58:15):
Okay, actually it's not bill murray, right it's not okay
, that's good.

Cory (58:18):
I don't play that game.
Got it got it well, okay.

Nick (58:20):
So initially I thought, yeah, like a character actor,
comedic character actor like DanFogler, who's known for like
Good Luck Chuck, fantasticBeasts he's just the big guy in
those and I was like that wouldprobably be, he would do well.

Cory (58:31):
Tony Award winning.
Tony Award winning Dan Fogler,I believe, oh excuse me.

Nick (58:35):
Pardon me, sorry, mr Fogler, excuse me.

Cory (58:46):
But I went with because I just thought it'd who doesn't
love paul.
It's a good one, yeah, which isalso weirdly like a guy that
like, I think, a lot like danfogler and josh it's weird,
we're in a weird, not even cycleI don't even think it's weird.
I think it's like maybe justappropriate that we're in this
era of the fat comedic actor,you're only we pick one.

Nick (58:57):
All brilliant.

Cory (58:58):
Yeah, they're all great they're like josh gatz producing
things with like mel brooks andlike he, like he has his own
production.
Paul Walter, he's gotten Oscarnominations.

Nick (59:07):
He was in a Clint Eastwood movie.

Cory (59:09):
Incredible dramatic actor.

Nick (59:11):
And then Dan Fogler's won a Tony.
That's wild.
Yeah, Cheers to the big boys.

Cory (59:16):
I love it.
I love that we're in this erawhere it's not just like happy
fat dancing clown in the smalljacket.

Nick (59:20):
Chris Farley crawled, so these men could run.

Cory (59:22):
Exactly, and Paul Walter.

Nick (59:24):
Hauser's playing him and Paul Walter Hauser's playing him
.
I think both of those are goingto be fun in different ways.
I just think Paul Walter Hauser.
I was going through the listand I was like, yeah, who
doesn't want some more?
Paul Walter Hauser.

Cory (59:34):
You know how badass of the guy that is.
He pulls out of a Tarantinomovie to go make the Chris
Farley biopic and Tarantino hasto pivot.

Nick (59:40):
That's amazing.
Okay, so we've got that.
So who is your Bill Murray?
Perhaps I could be of someassistance.

Cory (59:52):
That's our fifth guy Now you get to live up your dream.
Okay, it's weird because I wasunaware of his attachment to the
other role.

Nick (59:59):
Okay.

Cory (59:59):
But I chose Michael J Fox.
Oh.

Nick (01:00:02):
It's 89-90.

Cory (01:00:04):
Okay, we're coming off of the Back to the Future trilogy.

Nick (01:00:06):
He's massive Post-Teen Wolf as well, and that's the
thing when he's in Toonville.

Cory (01:00:10):
I want him to go into Teen Wolf.

Nick (01:00:12):
Like he becomes a Teen Wolf.
Yes, so he's like channels.

Cory (01:00:15):
Michael J Fox has played weird basketball before.

Nick (01:00:22):
I'm not mad about it.

Cory (01:00:23):
He's going to show up in Toonville and because it's
Toonville, he can become TeenWolf.

Nick (01:00:28):
He goes and talks to the witch, or somebody says, hey,
listen, so how can you give me?
And he comes at the end of thegame and he's just like perhaps.
I could be some assistance.

Cory (01:00:36):
They open the thing, and it's the moon, it's Michael J
Fox.
He's going to say how can I beof assistance?
They're going to, they're gonnalook at him because he's five
foot three right, you know, andeven maybe isaiah thomas, who's?
Not tall though, but he's likeI don't know if this game's for
you.
Yeah, this, the roof opens, thewitch does something and he's
like well, I've playedbasketball before.
Maybe you've heard of a littlehigh school team called the
beavers, and then he better teenwolf 2.

Nick (01:01:09):
No no, yes, no notes, no notes.
Beautiful, oh my god.
Because cory also knows I'm abig back to the future fan.

Cory (01:01:15):
So yeah, yeah, we're riding that, that train that
wave.

Nick (01:01:19):
You know, you got to get marty mcfly, you got to get
michael j fox.

Cory (01:01:21):
While you can, because, sadly, you know, his career was
short.
Yeah, he picked some weird onesin the 90s he did.
Hey, hey, doc, hollywood'sgreat.
Honestly, a lot of his moviesare good.
It's just it was hard to seehim as an adult.

Nick (01:01:31):
Yeah, it's true, spin city was fun yeah also touching on
bill murray.
Uh, they didn't.
This is what bill murray'sknown for, though, like the
filmmakers were unable to bookhim until filming starting, but
he was already written into thescript, so they basically again
didn't know if he was going toshow up for the movie or not
until it was time.
But there's more.
I could talk more and moreabout it.
He wears the jersey 22.
Uh, it's a.
It's a nod to groundhog day.
He accepted the role because heregretted missing out on who

(01:01:53):
framed roger rabbit.
There's a lot of connectivetissue there, but uh, thanks,
bill murray for making ourchildhood great again.
Yeah, all right.
So it.
Had it been any period of timebefore, like the 2021, I would
have given you Adam Sandler,probably naturally naturally and
I even thought about like thestoryline.
I was like, oh, you could throwRyan Reynolds in there because
Adam Sandler is notoriously goodat best right.
Strangely good at basketballfor being the man that's

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overweight and wears bigt-shirts and chubby guy
apparently can ball and ball I'mgiving you Jason Sudeikis, who
has had apparently really goodall-star game.
Showing good all-star game.
Showings celebrity all-stargame showings.
Oh, I've seen like viral clipsof him just nailing threes and
so he's going to fit right inwith Steph Curry, you know, but
this is right in the middle ofhis Ted Lasso run.

Cory (01:02:34):
I've still never seen an episode of Ted Lasso.
I haven't yet either, but Iknow it's massive and people
love it.

Nick (01:02:39):
And you know, if you don, jason sudeikis is from that.
Uh, I don't know where you'vebeen the past three years, but
he's also in.
We're the millers.
Horrible bosses I have run intojason sudeikis on you have in
maui, and he thought I wasfamous.
He did it for a second.

Cory (01:02:50):
He double-taked me.
He was like I thought you're,as a guy and I know the ultimate
respect.
Yes, yeah, I know who.

Nick (01:02:54):
He thought it's not me, but no, I I just, I just think
he's gonna you lean a littleinto the, the Ted Lasso-ness of
it, but it's still JasonSudeikis.
Obviously he's just kind ofplaying that chummy bro
character that he does on.
Snl and stuff.

Cory (01:03:09):
Okay, I like it.
It's kind of fun.
It is fun.
It's not as fun as.

Nick (01:03:13):
Michael J Fox turning into Teen Wolf.
But I was just right there man,the arrow was right there.
It presented itself.

Cory (01:03:25):
I mean, if we're making this movie, if I did the Iverson
, one.

Nick (01:03:27):
I probably would have had Air Bud, the golden retriever,
but okay.
So before we get okay, I keepteasing the Monstars I do want
to, really quick, just give yousome quick tidbits about the
Looney Tunes themselves, becausethere's a couple things we
haven't talked about.
So we talked about Swackhammer.
He was supposed to be a liveaction character.
Dennis Hopper was potentiallygoing to play him as a live
action character, but the LooneyTunes themselves were voiced by
Mel Blanc.

(01:03:48):
If you don't know that, that'sthe guy who pretty much did most
of the voices, but he passedaway.
His last movie was actually theJetsons movie that we talked
about previously.
Who, mel Blanc?
Okay, yeah, and so his son wasoriginally booked, but him and
Warner Brothers couldn't agreeon a contract and that's where
Billy West came in.
Billy West is a voice actor.
Most people know him from Fryon Futurama, but he's done a lot

(01:04:09):
of different other roles beyondthat.
Yeah, he's Doug and stuff in the90s, but he learned a space jam
through Reitman on the HowardStern show who was producing
Stern's film Private Parts, andhe just and Ivan signed him on.
He plays the voice of BugsBunny and Elmer Fudd.
Now the other piece of thisthat we haven't talked about is
Lola Bunny.

Cory (01:04:29):
Don't ever call me doll Shit, okay.

Nick (01:04:34):
Lola Bunny is an interesting character in the
Looney Tunes pantheon becausethis is her first movie.
This is her first appearance ofall time.
Madonna, cyndi Lauper and PaulAbdul were considered to voice
Lola Bunny, but the part wasgiven to Kathy Sochi a voice
actor, I'm assuming, which isgreat if it's a voice actress
that's getting a part In theLeBron movie.
I forgot about this completely.
She's voiced by Zendaya and Ithink it was fine, but in the

(01:05:00):
first Space Jam she's definitelysexualized, I would say.

Cory (01:05:04):
Yeah, yeah, it was weird I think a lot of kids our age had
a weird feeling about lolabunny.

Nick (01:05:09):
Yes, it's that's.
And then they kind of tried tolike pivot on that with the
lebron movie, which I don't knowif it was like a necessary
thing per se, like you couldstill make her like the
bombshell of the looney tuneswas curvaceous.
She was in 1996, it's likevoluptuous yeah yeah, not, not
that she was overtly, but theydefinitely she's not bad.

Cory (01:05:27):
They drew her that way.
Yeah, she curves yes and youwere, as a child, like okay, I
have.

Nick (01:05:34):
Why is lola bunny doing this?

Cory (01:05:35):
jessica rabbit and lola bunny yeah, just grab it,
there's the connection there aswell.

Nick (01:05:39):
But uh, she was actually.
They had a different characterin mind.
That was just some.
It was like bugs bunny's othergirlfriend, that was only like
comic books and like hadappeared in like a video game
Bugs Bunny, crazy Castle 2.
But they were as they weredeveloping it.
They were like it was acompletely different character
of that point, okay, and she wasgiven several names, including
Bunny Bunny, lola Bunny withthat I Lola Rabbit and even

(01:05:59):
Daisy Lou, because they thoughtabout giving her a southern
tomboy personality.
Okay, and I don't really thinklike she's, I don't.
I think it's more ourretrospective thoughts on lola
bunny, because re-watching themovie it's like, yes, she's,
there's a sexual component.

Cory (01:06:11):
Yeah, it's all.
Joking aside, I think as a kidyou never actually noticed.

Nick (01:06:14):
Yeah, when you're an adult you're like oh, they did okay
bugs is fawning over her, butthey definitely make her like
her own woman, basically because, again, you don't call her
dolls because she's the secondbest basketball player on the
team, yeah, but I just want tothrow a shout out to lola bunny,
a quick discussion about that,along with other voice actors
and stuff, because you know thisis a animated movie.
We should talk a little bitabout them, um, so, all right,

(01:06:37):
it's time to round this thing up, cory.
So who do you have?
You got isaiah thomas, soexplain to me the monsters and
what's going on.
Time to play a littlebasketball.

Cory (01:06:50):
Little titsqueaks just turned into superstars.
They're monsters Sufferingsuccotash.
They're Monstars.
So I mean, like, what it is islike Isaiah Thomas.
For me it was like also tryingto figure out again why I didn't
do Caitlin Clark, because itwould have been hard to make a
Monstars without sounding likean idiot.

Nick (01:07:09):
Okay.

Cory (01:07:10):
I don't know enough Whereas Isaiah Thomas has this
really impressive rivalry, likealmost Rogue's Gallery of Rivals
, throughout his career.
Sure, you know, and so Icouldn't tell you the names of
the Monstars you want me to justgive you my five.

Nick (01:07:23):
I will give you the names of them, but you don't have to
name them by that.
So the names were Pound, newt,bumpkus, bang and Blanco.
They originally took over thepowers of Charles Barkley,
muggsy Bogues, larry Johnson,patrick Ewing and Sean Bradley.
I'm learning now that they evenhad names.
They are not mentioned in themovie.

Cory (01:07:40):
Oh, okay, so it's just a credits only thing.

Nick (01:07:42):
Neither is the word their team group name.
They're called Nerdlux.
Wait what?

Cory (01:07:47):
Nerd, like that's what their species is, I guess.
Oh, okay, I was like their teamname's Monstars.
Yeah, they're the Monstars,yeah you're correct, but anyway
you need five.
Give me five, corey.
Okay, you know I can do this.
Actually, sure Is John StocktonPerfect, whose rivalry with
Isaiah Thomas goes all the wayback to high school.

Nick (01:08:05):
It's bloody.

Cory (01:08:05):
And it was in it's the two best point guards of their time
.

Nick (01:08:08):
Yes, by all means, undoubtedly, other than if Magic
Johnson but he kind of was thisall around player, but he was
also huge.
Yeah, I'm talking about like atraditional point guard.

Cory (01:08:14):
Yes, and so, by all means, and so Johnson would probably
be my orange guy.

Nick (01:08:22):
Okay, pound, you know, pound the Charles Barkley.

Cory (01:08:25):
Yeah, he would be the Charles Barkley.
Okay, I got Larry Bird comingin for like Murderer's row right
now.

Nick (01:08:30):
Yeah.

Cory (01:08:30):
Larry Johnson, because these are all guys that stood in
his way.
Yeah.
You know like at least he hadto go through magic in Bird Bird
humiliated.
Actually, they both beat him inthe years prior Bird famously
like getting an inbound pass anda steal and a last shot to send
him home.

Nick (01:08:45):
Even the Celtics when they lost, they walked out off the
court before the Pistons did itto the Bulls.

Cory (01:08:50):
Yeah, so yep, they didn't shake hands, only Kevin McHale.
He didn't get the memo.
Oh, we're leaving.
Okay, my bad.
Hey, you played great Good gameguys.
And so, and then I guess, mygreen guy who was originally
patrick ewing, yes, bang um,that would.
That's michael jordan okay I'mmaking.

(01:09:10):
I'm making michael jordan badguy here.

Nick (01:09:12):
This is young, freakishly athletic, michael jordan.
Okay, he has to be in this.
Okay, yeah, at the time.

Cory (01:09:17):
Again, he, I agree he is universally hated by the league
for being way too good, too soonyeah but like he's not michael
jordan yet, yeah, people aregonna know him, which you should
.

Nick (01:09:26):
We should also note that they did not pick the five
biggest names right, it was morekind of a yeah, charles barkley
would have by far been thebiggest name it's like him then
ewing and then larry johnson,because he was in those
commercials playing a grandmaplaying basketball and then
mugsy bogues and john bradley'sjust a circus thing.

Cory (01:09:41):
They're like hey, look at this, seven foot seven guy.

Nick (01:09:42):
This guy's a freak five foot two guy who's in the nba.

Cory (01:09:46):
It's like, so that's what that is, yeah, um and so uh.
And then I'm bringing home mysean bradley, my center.

Nick (01:09:53):
Uh blanco, bring me akeem lajwan oh, wow, yeah, okay he
was in the league and he was onthe up because?
Because you're not picking likekareem.
And was kareem still going onor was he done?
Kareem was at the end.
Yeah, he's not.

Cory (01:10:05):
Kareem was.
I don't even know if he.
I don't know if Kareem was onthe Lakers team that they
eventually beat In that yearfollowing, I don't know.
I don't know if he was on the90s Lakers.

Nick (01:10:14):
Yeah, I mean, he played to 89, so it's probably.
Yeah, he's on top.
Yeah, I'm going okay.
So you're, you're definitelygiving like the murderous rule,
the who's, who, you know what.
Like we talked about like itwas more of like, well, we want
a tall guy and kind of a smallguy charles barkley's here but
and but you're giving likeisaiah's greatest enemies

(01:10:35):
against him.
Yeah, like you.

Cory (01:10:37):
You have a poster in your living room of michael jordan.
It's from the back yeah facing30 something players which would
be considered his biggestrivals or notable players in his
era.
I just kind of did the samething like.
I'm just saying like who wasisaiah thomas's in each position
?
Who would have been like a painin the ass yeah, you know I
could have done kareem, but hewas retired so to to touch on

(01:10:59):
kareem.

Nick (01:10:59):
So kareem's last title win with magic was in the 87 88
season so it would have followedwould have been my last 80 like
88, 89 would have also been uhI think the lakers won 88 89
because, uh, I believe thepistons first one is 89, 90 and
then 90 91 um, no, no, it's thepistons.

Cory (01:11:19):
The pistons won in 89 and 90, okay, in the 91, okay, okay
so yeah, kareem would have beenthat last game he retired on top
yeah so interesting.

Nick (01:11:28):
So any other thoughts about that?
Like, I think it's justinteresting because it's going
to be isaiah who's viewed assomewhat of a villain.
So what's the logic?
I guess because they, becausethe monster stars, have taken
the talent of the best players.
They're like what about isaiahthomas?

Cory (01:11:41):
isaiah thomas is, yes, he got vilified, but at the same
time he's probably the heart ofthe bad boy Pistons.
He's, like, weirdly, almostguilty by association yeah he's
not Lambert, he's not Rodman.
No, what he is is.
He got a lot of crap for sayingthat people only care about
Larry Bird because he's white.
He said that in a pressconference and Larry Bird is one
of the greatest basketballplayers ever ever but I don't

(01:12:03):
think he was meaning that asmuch as he was saying like
people just concentrate him onbecause he's white yeah, you
know like it's like he's just,that's one of the things that
sticks to larry bird.
It's like look at this whiteguy who's really good in a sport
that's mostly dominated byblack athletes, right and so.
But they like made up andthey're fine but that was like
the most villainous thing he didother than you know, also not
shaking the bull's hands right,yeah but you know it's like come

(01:12:25):
on so in this, in the period oftime it's, this is so.

Nick (01:12:28):
They've lost in 88 to the lakers.
They won in 89 and 90 to thelakers and then the portland
trailblazers respectively.
So is this during their titlerun, I guess?

Cory (01:12:37):
yeah, this would have been like the repeat, okay, repeat.
In between there he's gonnahave the cred for um bugs money
to come get.
I think.

Nick (01:12:43):
And I think that's the thing.
He's on top of the world.
He's won the title, but it'sthe bad boys piston style.
Everybody kind of hates him.

Cory (01:12:48):
So even though he's won, it's like I would say that's the
history of it.
It's just like, hey, he's beendeemed this bad guy.

Nick (01:12:52):
Yeah.

Cory (01:12:53):
You know and stuff like that, and of course he'll go on
cost him a spot on the dreamteam yes, that's infamously so.

Nick (01:13:04):
I think also it's interesting because it's not
like the players you're talkingabout are the monsters
themselves.
It's that their talent is beingtaken.
So what will be great forisaiah is this is almost like
this redemptive story for him oflike I'm, I've beaten the
monster as we got your talentback and I'm giving it to you,
yeah, so like.

Cory (01:13:20):
So maybe that's my thing you can have like like bill
andbert, like to like crush itlike say destroy, yeah, like you
know.

Nick (01:13:25):
And rodman, and like do it , and then he says, no, yeah,
exactly.
That's the.
That's where my thinking,that's the end he chooses to
give his biggest rivals theirgame and they still don't put
him on the dream michaeljordan's, like f you do you
think that they put him on thedream team if he saves them?

Cory (01:13:38):
I mean they would be dicks , not to, it'd be kind of rude.

Nick (01:13:41):
So no, I like that that's.
It's not what I expected.
You know, we were kind ofthrowing around ideas and you
mentioned magic and maybe birdbeing the one to come in at the
end to save him.

Cory (01:13:51):
I kind of thought about it and played around with it, but
it just felt like I like theisaiah thomas story.
Yeah a lot I really do so cool,cool, well for mine.

Nick (01:13:59):
So steph curry, we're in that 2020 2021 season right
before the 2022 run.
He's.
He's come out of injury.
Clay's still injured.
He's kind of on his own, he'sat his low point.

Cory (01:14:07):
Like the Warriors, have been counted out yeah, and
they're.

Nick (01:14:10):
This is where they actually get to develop their
younger players and stuff, andit's really where Steph's going.
Like I have to ball out andprove myself that I'm still that
guy, and I think that's thestoryline that the Monstars show
up, they take the talent fromthe people I'm about to describe
you to, and then he has to goout with the looney tunes and
kind of find his groove back andremember I'm steph curry.
That's right yeah and that willpropel them, in our narrative,
into the 2022 championship.

(01:14:31):
So I'm going to give you themurderer's row of my own,
because I thought about if thiswas, if this was made in 2024,
this year, I would be tempted topick the next generation of
stars.
So you're anthony edwards, yoursga, your luca, kind of as like
as step Steph's, like trying toprove himself one more time
against that talent kind ofthing.
Ok, but I'm giving you a ghostof girlfriend's past.
Corey, all right From thebottom to the top, I'm going to

(01:14:54):
reverse you.
So for Blanco, the blue tall one, kevin Durant it's got to be,
it's got to be, it's got to be.
He's left.
He thinks he can do it on hisown.
They take the talent from him,but but that's the attention
with.

Cory (01:15:03):
Yeah, yeah, but I think that's the.

Nick (01:15:05):
The other fun element is like, even if steph is seeing
the talent, like he sees themonsters, but he's noticing
their moves, I think in thisversion and he's going they,
that's kevin.
And it's like the flashbacks oflike things are like well,
you're not as good without kevinand I kind of like that.

Cory (01:15:18):
I like that as a scene like he doesn't know whose
talent's been stolen, but he'sfiguring it out.
But then he starts seeing themand he's like that's Kevin
Durant, yeah.

Nick (01:15:24):
For Bang the green one, originally Patrick Ewing
Draymond Green.
Everybody says you can't dowithout Draymond.

Cory (01:15:29):
Took his own teammate man.

Nick (01:15:31):
You're a team player, you're a system player.
You can't do without.

Cory (01:15:33):
Draymond.
I considered that with thecenter about giving them Bill
Lambier instead of AkeemOlajuwon.

Nick (01:15:40):
Oh, that'd purple.
Larry Johnson, kawhi Leonard,who beat them in the finals.
He stopped their three Petewhen Steph couldn't do it on his
own without Clay or KD, so it's.

Cory (01:15:50):
Katie went out.
Because Katie went out faceturn final and clay got hurt too
.
Yeah, that was the face turnbecause the Warriors were kind
of the villains, yeah they wereyeah.

Nick (01:15:57):
So I got that for Newt, the small one I thought about,
like Kyrie and Russell Westbrook, like all those guys, john
Moran, if we had gone younger.
James Harden, because he'sstill it's his last time in the
Rockets, he's transitioning tothe Nets and he's always been a
thorn in Steph's side this wholetime.
So you're getting the end ofJames Harden's peak run where
he's just scoring 30 plus a gameand he's the step back three my

(01:16:19):
gut would say Westbrook, butWestbrook's a good guy and
Harden's not, so it works better.

Cory (01:16:24):
Yes, absolutely, he's the Barkley.

Nick (01:16:27):
And for Pound the Charles Barkley role, and I'll explain
this kind of like you did LeBronJames.

Cory (01:16:32):
Yeah.

Nick (01:16:34):
Because, again, like we talked about, lebron and Steph
are going to forever be etchedin history as the two best
players of this era, and theargument's going to be LeBon's
arguing as he should beconsidered for the goat and
everybody's going.
But the warriors won four titleswhile you played basketball,
yeah, in your peak prime andtowards the end.
That's the argument thateverybody always has.
So I think you can't have onewithout the other.

(01:16:54):
It's lebron made the movie, butit was more like the people he
knew in the new legacy and sohis friends.
I guess he should have hadsteph in that movie.
I don't know why he didn't popin.
They had damien lillard, kindof the smaller point guard type.
But the also the fun of this isit allows lebron to have fun
because like in the charlesberkeley role where he loses his
powers and you see the montageof him like going to church,
being praying, like I'll nevergo out with madonna again, or

(01:17:15):
like he's going to the therapistand stuff, where he goes to
play basketball with the girlsand it's like this girl, five
foot nothing, block my shot.
Like, I think, lebron, who'sshown that he has comedic chops
in in movies and stuff, I thinkhe can have a lot of fun in that
role yeah and I just thinkit'll be again kind of the same
thing with isaiah, of like doyou really want to give these
guys their power back?
it's I mean, it's what mj had todo at the end of the original
space gym was like I could keepthese and I could.

(01:17:36):
I could run even worse on therest of the 90s without you guys
in the picture.
But I just think that that theghost of steph's past coming
back to kind of haunt him onelast time would be a fun idea of
him getting while he gets backinto being steph curry.
The other thought of this toois like so you have isaiah
thomas, I have steph.

Cory (01:17:54):
They're not known dunkers no, oh, anybody could do that,
doc.

Nick (01:17:58):
Even you watch this, no sweat, this is so the concept at
the end of the movie Well,yours is easy, mine's easy.
He has to just shoot a threepointer from like space.
Basically, yes, like themonster, chucks him, because
it's like 10 seconds left,you're not going to make
anything.

Cory (01:18:14):
Steph Curry is the closest thing that there's ever
actually been to a HarlemGlobetrotter.

Nick (01:18:18):
Yes, in the NBA.
Yeah, it's just like bam.
I do this every day becausethat's gonna be the moment that
he remembers he's steph curry,basically, and like, and then
these reminder you're in looneytune lane, you can do whatever.
So like, yeah, something likethe monsters try to throw him
out of bounds, like you're nevergonna make the shot and he just
goes, throws the hill mary upand makes it and they just watch

(01:18:40):
it.
It's almost like maybe a forcetype thing montage, like it's
going through all this crazystuff trying to not touch
anything.
Okay, but it was isaiah.
I guess it's like he.
He would have to just kind oflike involve his team to get
them to be.
He would have the.
He would have that half timespeech and be like you guys need
to toughen up.
We're gonna play some jordanrules here.
I'm gonna introduce.

Cory (01:18:58):
It's gonna be the speech.
It's gonna be the like you know.

Nick (01:19:02):
Maybe you bring the bum ankle into it, maybe his ankle
goes, or something like that Iwould actually say it could be
your mighty ducks, the thing hebecomes the coach he can't go
back out on the fourth quarteror, like on the last play.
Hurt the jordan rules, get puton him.

Cory (01:19:17):
Yeah, oh, that's great, yeah, maybe michael jordan's guy
like, just like, says take himout you know blah blah blah and
maybe it's like he has to willthe looney tunes to believe in
themselves.
And then I think you have likea yosemite sam like say, should
we play dirty?

Nick (01:19:30):
and he said no, we don't we we win clean, but they have
to play like looney tunes.

Cory (01:19:35):
Cory, that is clean in looney tune land that's true,
but like maybe don't shootanyone, we don't get the well,
it is too early for the pulpfiction reference with him and
Elmer Fudd.
So but like, yeah, I think it'slike some probably a little bit
, which is more 80s clicheanyway, yeah, no, we got to do
the right thing.
And even like it's even, likehe even benches J-Fox.

Nick (01:19:53):
Yeah.

Cory (01:19:54):
Teen Wolf.
He says they need to win this.
Come on, I'm ready to go.

Nick (01:20:10):
He's just covered in fur and he's like come on um quick
notes.
The scuff basketball used atthe end of the film is a
treasured souvenir owned by joepitka the director when playing
basketball.

Cory (01:20:12):
Yes, jordan is wearing the air jordan 11s.

Nick (01:20:13):
It's like most famous shoe and bill murray's wearing the
jordan twos okay so, uh, larrybird also appeared in celtic
pride in the same year as 96, sotwo movies, which is a
wonderful movie.

Cory (01:20:22):
I need to watch it.
I need to about it.

Nick (01:20:25):
But yes, apparently there were attempts to replace Michael
Jordan's character with a moreexperienced actor, but they
couldn't find anyone better andI'm like there's no one else you
pick for this movie.

Cory (01:20:33):
Like to play Michael Jordan.

Nick (01:20:35):
To play the lead.

Cory (01:20:35):
So it'd be like.
I'm guessing they're talkingabout like athletes or something
.
Like the Damon Wayans characterin Celtic Pride, he's playing a
fictional greatest of all timeSomething I was like this movie.

Nick (01:20:45):
It doesn't exist again without the combination, the
coming together of the LooneyTunes peaking in the 90s and
Jordan peaking in the 90s.

Cory (01:20:52):
No, you have to have it.
This concept doesn't happen.
It's a perfect storm, yeah.

Nick (01:20:55):
And I think that's just the thing.
I don't know if anybody outsideof the 90s just doesn't
everything and it was likeamazing and it's just one, and
maybe it's not this mostcritically like great movie, but
again, I watch it, you watch,we both go.
I had fun, I enjoyed it.
That's looney tunes.
That's michael jordan makingthe shot at the end, yep and it.
And weirdly it all just workedlike on paper.

(01:21:16):
It probably shouldn't, but itdoes I think it's great.

Cory (01:21:19):
I like our cast, I like I like.

Nick (01:21:20):
I like how we played with it and again, I think the
precipice, the thing that makesit work, is playing into the
character's real lives andmaking it like part of it, and I
think that that's what makes itstand out versus have they just
again LeBron tried to do whereit was just like a storyline,
you know, instead?
Well, that's it, corey.
That's all I got for Spaceship.

Cory (01:21:40):
I could keep talking about it, but I was very excited.

Nick (01:21:41):
Trying to find a way, and we did it.

Cory (01:21:43):
I like how you put your movie in a format where we
couldn't wreck it.
You kind of protected yourmovie.

Nick (01:21:49):
I guess.
But how would we have done itwith like a cast?
I don't know.
There's no way to possibly doit, I feel like you've kind of
just protected your movie fromus getting to mess with it.
I guess we could have gone to ayear and had Ali or Cass or
somebody odd and like picked,but they don't know basketball.
They don't know ball Corey.

Cory (01:22:05):
I mean, for all we know they do.
I don't know, ali's like a deepbasketball fan.
Yeah, that's true, yeah we'lldo it.

Nick (01:22:11):
We'll do a touchdown jam or something.

Cory (01:22:13):
Yeah, a whole movie of kid actors.
That'll be fun.
So we'll go ahead and apologizeto normal listeners.
Sorry if basketball's not yourthing and we've outed ourselves
as sports fans.

Nick (01:22:26):
We're not the typical sports fans no we're a very
small demographic no, we are.

Cory (01:22:30):
So that is space jam.
Um.
Look what it looks like in twodifferent eras yeah, past,
present.
Um, I, I okay hopefully we'llget to.

Nick (01:22:38):
Maybe maybe down the road we'll do a future one with
caitlin clark.

Cory (01:22:40):
We'll see where she's at yeah, yeah, we'll give her a few
years, yeah, yeah, I mean, Ithink, she's destined for
greatness so it'll be, it'll befine, yeah so everyone will come
around on her.
Yeah, we'll do it when,inevitably, her and angel reese
end up on the same team, becausethat'll happen, it'll 100
happen and it'll just be thismassively dominant thing.

Nick (01:22:56):
So I'm here for it all right.

Cory (01:22:58):
Well, that was space jam.
Can't say a year like Inormally do, I want to.
So bad.
That was space jam 90 2001pretty much yeah, 2021 yeah so
all right um well, just makesure to subscribe.

Nick (01:23:11):
Tell them to go to the places at quantum recast like
and subscribe.

Cory (01:23:13):
Follow us for more episodes yeah, check us out on
the social medias at quantumrecast.
Uh, don't spend too long on theinternet though, um it'll kill
you um and uh say good night,nick good night nick.

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