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September 16, 2024 • 76 mins

Episode 62: Erotic Trance States and Sexual Control Dynamics (GOONING) Hey y'all and welcome back to another episode of the QueerLBC podcast! In today's quick tea we discuss George Santos facing prison time, Hawaii's first trans lawmaker Kim CoCo Iwamoto, what the democrats wish to do for the LGBTQ community if elected to office, Trump's wild claims, and The Abbey earning safe space certification! Come get a cup of this hot tea sis! Woof. Then in our main topic we discuss the topic of Erotic Trance States and Sexual Control Dynamics. We talking about GOONING y'all, that and a list of similar experiences that fall under the umbrella of Erotic Trance States and Sexual Control Dynamics. Ooh honey this is gonna be spicy you won't wanna miss!

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Hey y'all, this podcast contains potentially disturbing content.
Our show includes graphic references to topics such as sexual abuse,
self-harm, violence, eating disorders, explicit language, and sexual acts.
Listener discretion is advised.
This show is for mature audiences only.
Good morning and welcome back to another episode of the Queer LBC Podcast.

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I'm your host, Nino. My pronouns are he, him. Thank you for asking.
I have with me here my fabulous cohorts.
Yo, it's me, Kristoff, your city top liaison. My pronouns are he,
him, and that, motherfucker.
Dr. Mikey here, your local licensed and practicing therapist for entertainment purposes only.

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My pronouns are he, she, all of them. So, what's the tea, sis? The tea is today in gay.
George Santos faces prison after pleading guilty to fraud.
Australia's census to ask about sexuality for the first
time after backlash Today in homophobia Retired gay teacher sentenced to five
years after threatening judge over don't say gay case Today in trans Kim Koko

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Iwamoto will be Hawaii's first trans lawmaker after beating the house speaker Today in transphobia,
Donald Trump falsely claims that trans kids are getting gender affirming surgeries
at school cool today in what the fuck the abbey west hollywood earns lgbtq plus
safe space certification.

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And today in pandering a list of what democrats promise to do for lgbtq plus
people in their 2024 platform any of you queens know about any of these things
lol at the fucking west oh my god we're just talking about that i know right it was like.
Really? And I looked at the comments under the Instagram post and literally

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almost every single person in the common has been drug has been drugged at the fucking Abbey.
And I was like, what in the fuck? So what is this certification that allowed you to rank this place?
So a safe space. What's your criteria? Right.
Because if most of the people that has been there or know somebody that has
been there have been drugged, then how is it safe?

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It's safe for lgbtq people to
dance not even really because most motherfuckers ain't
even in there dancing it's so fucking packed and nobody the fucking
dance floor right you just like wiggling that's funny
pretty much i wrote in the comments too and i was like my
friend has also been drugged here saying that's crazy so i'm
like of all the bars in west hollywood i

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saw that homo clown our former guest speaker
wrote disgusting and disgusting it's true
that's crazy i don't know i haven't i never liked the
abbey even like before all this hoopla the first time i went it's
just it's pretentious it's like yeah you can't
like you said you can't dance it gets so packed and it's like

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it's not very gate oriented for being in west hollywood
it's like it's a a beautiful space oh i
love the venue you know i'm saying the venue was nice and beautiful but
like the i think the
only time i do enjoy it is when i go like early in the daytime like on a sunday
like brunch like not even brunch just like a you know right after brunch or

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some shit like when it's just like dying down and just like in that weird time
frame of brunch and you know nightlife.
So it's, like, not that busy, but, you know. Yeah. Well,
the WeHoTimes.com says that the Stonewall In-Gives-Back Initiative announced
that the Abbey Food and Bar in West Hollywood has officially been certified

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as LGBTQ plus safe space. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
They worked with the Abbey to provide the necessary training,
policies, and standards to ensure the iconic gay bar is creating a safe space
for LGBTQ plus employees and customers while also advocating for equality.
In addition to completing a 10-step safe spaces certification program,

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the Abbey's employees participated in a training component designed by Jennifer
Brown Consulting to ensure they are fostering an inclusive environment.
Do they train their staff not to drug their uh
customers let's see
gay bars have long been considered a safe space for our community but
it's important that they are actually safe and our entire

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community feels welcomed inside of them being the
first nightlife venue in los angeles to be certified
certified by the stonewall inn gives back initiatives
official safe spaces program speaks to my
personal commitment to keep the abbey a safe space said tristan
in shulcraft owner of the abbey i
hope other venues in west hollywood and across the country

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will join us and get certified okay so maybe
they're on the way of doing right yeah well
i heard that they have a new owner so i
think they're trying to like repair their reputation okay and
like so this is like a training program that everyone went through
so i guess by those standards right they're
safe but like historically you're not

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very safe and i was talking to another other friend of mine i was like hey so
like i don't understand why a staff member a
bartender will you know drug somebody because.
They still got to be at work like there's not like that person
unless you know what i'm saying so but then it was also
seems like because when you drug people some of them like
they'll continue to buy and spend and spend

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and don't remember what happened so when they wake up and
have a 600 fucking tab from the abbey then you
can't really remember and then you can't really dispute it
i'm assuming and i was like oh i didn't think about
it like that because i was shade yeah it was like that's shady as hell but nonetheless
there's a lot of angry comments about this it like everywhere it's very controversial

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i don't so that's all i had on that one and hawaii trans women and former member
of the hawaii civil rights commission and hawaii Board of Education,
just beat the incumbent in her district, Democratic primary,
who has been in the office for three decades,
becoming the first trans person elected to the body.

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Iwamoto defeated incumbent state House Speaker Scott Psaki by around five percent
of the votes and Iwamoto receiving forty nine point three and Psaki receiving forty four point six.
It feels great to have this experience, especially knowing that so many very
powerful endorsed him as well, said Iwamoto.

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So I wasn't just campaigning against him.
I was campaigning against the entire Democratic establishment.
Establishment she worked previously as an attorney and
has been elected for two terms to the hawaii board of education in
the mid-2010s she was appointed as a commissioner to the hawaii civil rights
commission she previously ran office unsuccessfully she ran for a lieutenant

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governor in 2018 and challenged saki's seat twice in the past third time's a
charm buddy so like that's,
actually great but she is also particularly progressive on
lgbtq plus rights her campaign pain website list among
her proposed policies kim coco supports
measures that prohibit discrimination on the bias of

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sexual orientation gender expression and identity to ensure the lgbtq plus community
are protected in our community kim coco supports fully funding the enforcement
division at all the state agencies that ensure compliance with all of the state's
non-discriminatory laws so that's It's amazing.

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You go, Kim Coco. Come on, Kim Coco.
Get it, queen. See, that's how we need to make change. The future is woman.
We need to get an office. We can't let these streets think they're going to protect us.
And she'll also be the house speaker, which is a pretty big deal,
too. Someone's been there for 30 years.

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So I think it's a great sign of how times are changing. you know like this is
a great win for like leftists and progressives that is retired teacher let's see.
So, a retired gay teacher sentenced to five years after threatening judge over don't say gay case.

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Following his guilty plea in May, Stephen Thorne, 66, of Pensacola,
Florida, of course, right?
Was sentenced to five years imprisonment for threatening to harm a federal judge
and her family, according to the U.S.
Attorney's Office for the Middle District of Florida.
According to court documents, in October 2022,

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Thorne was unhappy with a ruling issued by the judge in regard to a challenge
of the state's don't say gay law and left her vulgar, obscenity-laden voicemail messages.
In a letter filed to court, Thorne apologized for rashly and angrily overreacting

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after reading a news story about the judge's ruling.
Florida's controversial Don't Say Gay Bill, formerly known as Parental Rights
and Educational Act, prohibits classroom instruction to students in pre-K through
grade 3 on sexual orientation or gender identity.
While for grades 4 to 12, such discussions are prohibited except when such instruction

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is either expressly required by state academic standards or part of an opposite sex education class.
Although the judge in the case was not named, it was widely believed to be Wendy
Berger who dismissed a lawsuit by LGBTQ plus students,
their families, and civil rights groups in Orlando who sought to halt the legislation

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from being enforced in the Sunshine State.
Date in the voicemails thorn said that
dismissing the challenge meant the
law was basically giving green light for lgbtq plus
students to be thought of as second-class citizens
and bullied the judge was very
easy to track he added he also said

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let's see how you like it if somebody endangered your children or
grandchildren in school damn that
don't sound like a threat that sounds like fucking every child
in fucking public schools shit dang thorn
was sentenced to the maximum sentence possible twice as
long as sought by prosecutors by judge william young on wednesday august 28th

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reporters that's crazy like that don't even sound like a a real direct threat
though unless he said others you
know i mean like that's how would you how yeah how would you like Like,
if your children or your grandchildren was to be bullied. Like, five years.
Right. That's over. That's crazy. Like, when straight people,

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like, threaten to bomb, like, gay people's spaces all the time and then nothing even happens.
Yeah. And then this person gets fucking five years.
Not that I'm saying that it's okay to be threatening people,
but that seems a little harsh.
Right. Seemed like that's not really. Uh-huh.
Like, bitch, don't get on the internet. Right? right
don't read those comments the fuck

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that's wild five years i mean
you know maybe he would have gone away with it if he didn't add that you're
very easy to track you know like i could definitely see how that's very threatening
right you're very easy but it's also true like it's not like you know i'm saying
like everybody is reachable it's true okay like it's very easy,

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it's not like this motherfucker saying like i'm gonna do something to you it was i didn't hear
a direct threat i'm like did the
judge in this trial like judge their
own right well and that's another fucking thing
because that's what judges do they use their own perception and
shit on cases and that's fucked up because i didn't hear anything of a direct

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threat but then again we didn't listen to the whole message the whole message
wasn't prescribed transcribed in the fucking newsletter right yeah that's like
come on now five fucking years though but the reality is is that, like, the judge,
increased it to five years and the prosecutors weren't even going for five years.
They wanted it, like, two and a half years. So, the judge was like,

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I'm gonna give you the maximum.
So, like, even that feels very homophobic. Right? Like...
They're just like in just want
to show your power and shit but also why wouldn't
a judge do that because they're protecting themselves at the same time
like they're seeing a case in which a judge is being threatened
so they want to send a message like don't fuck

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with us right right like that's a very see
don't be fucking with us judges because we'll put you
in right we're gonna use our power crazy right
don't you step up to speaking of judges did y'all and
this is about to get off sidetracked but did y'all hear about the judge who
there was like a classroom visit and
one of the girls fell asleep in the class in

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the in the courtroom and the judge made
her like put on like a like a
jail suit and came
in and like put her on trial in front of the students and
shit for falling asleep and when i first
heard it i was like you don't know what that child is
going on through you are using your power to show something

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like I don't want this child to grow up and be
in a courtroom and think that this is okay I was like what that
sounds stupid then it later came out that one that girl is she volunteered she
volunteered to be there like she wasn't even it was like a green it was like
an organization that was there to like you know hear about cases and shit but

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she's unhoused they got in late they sleep in their car and this motherfucker did all of this.
And just embarrass the fuck to him right and then he don't even know what's
going on in this person's life that's why i'm like you don't know what nobody
is going through and then he literally embarrassed this girl in front of the
whole courtroom i was like wow that's wild you're not a judge who can't read

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hello right like girl like that's your fucking job is to read,
and you can't but yeah but like i think that we definitely need to acknowledge that like.
They're still part of the system, right? And they're biased,
too, in their own beliefs. Yeah, that's true.
Damn judges. Locked up, they won't let me out.

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I mean, I'm not going to say it's bad to threaten anyone, but also be part of the solution, y'all.
And then George Santos faces prison after pleading guilty to fraud From the BBC.

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George Santos, the disgraced former Republican congressman, is facing years
in prison after pleading guilty to two federal counts of fraud.
Santos, 36. 36?
Hard life. Hard life. What? Girl.
Appeared in court in the federal, in the central East Slip. New York Monday.

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Admitted wire fraud and aggravated identity theft for stealing the IDs.
Of campaign staff and misusing campaign fundments. Wow.
The judge estimated a sentencing of range sentencing range a sentencing range
of six to eight years for the charges he had admitted.

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His guilty plea cements the downfall of the novice New York politician who was
expelled from Congress last year for a brief scandal-plagued tenure.
I deeply regret my con- No, that's not his voice. I deeply regret my conduct
and the harm it has caused and accept the full responsibility for my actions,
Santos said in a statement read to the court.

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It reverses his denial last year of charges, including lying to Congress about
his finances and using campaign contributions for personal expenses.
The plea agreement calls for Santos to make restitution of at least $374,000 American.
The aggravated identity theft charges carries two-year mandatory prison term

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that must be served consecutively with any sentence for the wire fraud charge.
In court, Santos admitted to theft and applying for unemployment benefits that
he was not entitled to receive. Fucking ghetto bitch.
You fucking ghetto bitch.
Making a joke. I mean, get your coin.
He also acknowledged making false statements and omissions on financial statements

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submitted to the House of Ethics Committee and the Federal Election Commission.
Mission santos was charged with 23 felony federal
felony crimes including wire fraud money laundering and
the misuse of campaign funds in december he
became the first member of congress to be expelled in more than 20 years and
only the sixth in history his brief tenure in
office was marked by several controversies alleged lies

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and alleged allegations of fraud dang girl she fascinates me mean i just want
to like sit down just like just tell me about you i want to figure you out why
are you the way why do you do the things you do what happened yeah who hurt you right.
The House Ethics Committee voted in 2023 to investigate Santos over several

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allegations that he engaged in unlawful activity during his 2022 campaign,
lied to Congress, and engaged in a sexual misconduct. What is that?
Like, what sexual misconduct was he doing? Probably trying to hit on somebody. Hmm.
Federal prosecutors filed 13 charges against him. 13 months later these included

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7 counts of wire fraud 3 counts of money laundering 1 count of theft of public
funds and 2 counts of lying to House of Representatives,
He was later charged with 10 additional counts accused of stealing the identities
of campaign donors and using their credit cards,
House Ethics Panel report was then released,
accused him of misusing campaign funds yeah yeah yeah yeah for Botox credit
card debts and subscriptions to porn heavy OnlyFans websites Bitch that's gay as fuck,

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Botox,
two of his.
Looking out for his health former health aides have already pleaded guilty to
fraud in connection to Santos' campaign his sentencing is scheduled for 7 February,
damn that's wild bye girl man I would

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watch a reality show I'm sorry like I will feed that
right he needs to be on that new show the villains what's
the y'all ever heard about that show it's like the house of villains it was
like last year like tiffany new york pollard was on it and i'm a mosa not a
mosa i'm a rosa i'm a rosa oh oh that sounds cool i'm down for that yeah was

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tiffany a villain during her my hero,
they painted her as a villain they painted her as a villain especially in flavor
of love yeah I feel like he could be like on the villains series cause he is
a villain mhm who would play George Santos in the movie.

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We don't want to give them that much credit oh have you seen that tv show in the shadows,
the vampire one yeah the assistant i
don't know i don't know bye georgie wow
i can't wait for a reality show dang that's like six
to eight years messy like but also

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like you're about to get elected why are you gonna do that you know it's gonna
come up she's like well everyone else is doing it it's true they're smart about
it though right they're also like cis white men girl oh yeah hello facts get
it together you're not like them.

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Not much to say on her i guess no unaffected,
oh no go ahead because i was just looking at
something stupid did y'all hear about out today and pandering no i
did not there's a here's a list of promises from
democrats what are these brats doing for us to oh
my god by the way one of her

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songs is written about one of her friends
that has a video up of her like shooting
at a doll dressed as a palestinian wait
wait what yeah there's a controversy with charlie
oh my god look it
up later anyway i digress

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so the democrats have released their 2024 platform for lgbtq plus ia individuals
so they their platform features dozens of policies that would improve the lives of lgbtq plus people.
Can you just give me the initiatives included include demonstrate a stark difference

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between the Democratic and Republican
parties, particularly in how they relate to the queer community.
The DNC's platform features policies across education, health care,
the judicial system and beyond that would directly benefit LGBTQ plus people,
not just in the US, but around the world.

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That's right, y'all. We're saving the world.
Here's a look at all the initiatives. So first we have the Equality Act.
The Democratic platform vows to enact the Equality Act, which would at last
outlaw discrimination against LGBTQ plus people in housing, public accommodations,
access to credit, education, jury service, and federal programs.

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Democrats applaud the 2020 U.S. Supreme
Court decision that made clear that employment discrimination based
on sexual orientation and gender identity violates the
law but we know we know we
still have work to do to ensure lgbtq plus people are treated equally under
under the law and in our society wait were we not allowed to do jury duty before

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well you probably get like not put in certain juries based on how you look and
i was like you You don't need to bring that to me.
I don't need to go to jury duty. Thank you.
Keep us out. But the Equality Act is essentially like codifying us to be protected
on national level. About time.

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And then there's healthcare discrimination. So as they vow to reverse the Trump
administration discriminatory actions against the LGBTQ plus community,
including the dangerous and unethical regulations allowing doctors,
hospitals, and insurance companies to discriminate against patients based on

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their sexual orientation or gender identity.
It promises to restore non-discrimination protections for LGBTQ people and people
living with HIV AIDS in health insurance.
They want to expand healthcare coverage. health
insurance would be required to cover all medically necessary care for trans

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for gender transition federal health plans would also be mandated to provide
coverage for hiv aids testing and treatment and hiv protection prevention medications
like prep and pep gender confirmation,
surgery and hormone therapy dang that's not nationwide already can we just just

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do it dang we're already a democrats right right yeah why are you just doing
out joe why aren't you doing first walk in bitch maybe you wouldn't be in shambles like you already are.
But i guess thank you i mean
but it's also just pandering so like i mean they gotta do it i mean these are

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just promises promises i've been lied to i can't take any more democrats they
will take a number of actions to end hiv aids epidemic which disproportionately
which disproportionately,
affects communities of color and the lgbtq plus community they're gonna do what
about it They're going to take a number of actions to end the epidemic.

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They're finally going to cure AIDS. That's their goal. They're like,
we have the cure, but we're going to do something with it. Yeah, do the rounds.
They're going to lift the discriminatory lifetime ban on blood donations by
healthy gay and bisexual Americans.
And they will protect act protect

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access to the full range of family planning services that
are essential to ensuring that people can decide if when and how to start a
family so like getting in virtual authorization abortions surrogates contraception
you can get abortions trans rights beyond the party's health care protections

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they would require federal health
care plans to provide coverage for gender-confirming surgery and hormone therapy.
They want to enact policies making legal services more accessible to trans people.
And they want to ensure that all trans and non-binary people can procure official
government identification documents that accurately reflect their gender identity.

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That's what's up. And they want to have more protections to extend hate crime
investigations and data keeping.
They want to recognize sex workers. as what
criminals it is promised to work with states and localities
to protect the lives of sex workers and they
want to tackle homelessness and mental

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health platform recognizes lgbtq individuals suffer disproportionately they
want to expand mental health and suicide prevention services nice so they got
a full list of things that they want to tackle if they win the,
allegedly the election I would love to pull up a 2020 platform and see how much

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was just copied and pasted over I mean I'm quite sure I didn't have any of this
shit I'm quite sure it's all copied and pasted next episode right okay like every year it's,
each side really shit cause I don't even want to get into it because to follow

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off of that y'all homeboy Boy...
What did Trump say? He said that the trans kids are getting gender affirming
surgeries at school. At school.
With what budget, bitch? They can't even afford books at school.
Do you even give your teachers healthcare?

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And with what nurses? They're only there on Tuesdays. Right,
and they only get Mondays and gauzes.
Teachers might be crowdfunding for students' basic school supplies,
but according to Trump's false and completely baseless claims,
free sex change procedures are being offered on this year's curriculum.
Ahead of Tuesday's night debate, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump

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has been spreading lies about transgender people on his campaign trail once again.
Most recently at a rally in Mosley, Wisconsin this past Saturday,
Trump reported that the unfounded lie that children are, for some reason,
receiving gender affirming surgeries at school behind their parents' back.
Can you imagine you're you're a parent and your
son leaves the house and you say jimmy i love you so much

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go have a good day in school and your son comes back with
a beautiful brutal operation trump said in
a video posted on x can you even imagine this what the hell is wrong with with
our country like that's like come on now like and i can't believe that people
like oh the crowd went crazy like oh yeah like okay that makes no fucking sense

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trump so they hired these gender swapping
doctors but they're brutalizing the children so they're not even good.
Dang but i get it for free hey i'm down i'm gonna get my gender swapped at school,
no they would do it gross they would do a bad job they would brutalize me yeah

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i have to go to a real doctor what are we saying this is so stupid it is like
do like students okay maybe Maybe you,
we don't know what kind of private school you went to, but we don't have surgeons.
I don't know why, but lately my fiance has been playing nothing but like stupid
Trump clips. I'm like, why are you obsessed with this stupidity now?

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It's like, because it's also like, damn, you can't believe, like you really
be looking at it and be like, damn, like this can't be coming out your mouth, man.
Like this really cannot be coming out your mouth. And literally fucking spews
out. But then people believe it. Eating it up.
That's the hard part like I don't understand why people,

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cherish the ground he walks on and like he don't care about nobody but himself
nobody but himself and especially with that shooting that happened earlier this last week they asked.
The other stupid motherfucker, what's his name? His running mate. Oh, Vance. Vance.
This fool said something about like guns, like we don't have a problem with guns in America.

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Then he went and did a fucking, he was going to talk or something and was covered by bulletproof glass.
I said, okay, but we don't have a problem with guns in America.
He said, there's no problem about it.
I don't have a problem. Y'all got the problem.
It's like fucking crazy he's like i accept that we live in this wild west right

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and i feel safe in this wild west because i have a gun so it's fine.
Dang maybe we just need to get strapped up so are kids allowed to like carry
guns if like let's say you live in one of these open carry states are kids allowed
to carry guns no you have to be,
over it's almost like cigarettes so you can't even hear it right like 21 to

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18 i want to say 18 or 21. It's 21 S for cigarettes now.
So you can't even properly protect yourself as an American child in school because
you can't carry a gun on yourself.
So can, like, you be like, what if you were, like, that kid and you're like,
I'm just gonna wear, like, a legit, like, bulletproof vest on school every day?
Like, that would be a good protest. They make bulletproof backpacks now. That's good.

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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I'm sorry, children. But, I mean, also,
like, I have seen guns...
In school twice you said you've seen
a gun in school twice my own personal experiences with
guns in school thing this is why you was
like in in middle school okay like i mean
yeah it's scary but it's also like we also had

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like a bunch of like drills all the time where
there was like always constantly like allegedly some kind
of like person with a gun just roaming campus because
we like lived in norwalk and i guess
that was just normal the way and so like there was always like some random like
yeah person with gun around the campus near the campus we have to go into lockdown

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mode okay yeah that does happen a lot so i mean i've definitely experienced
that and it's whatever i guess but damn i was about to say something.
Damn gun school what's about to fucking set drill it's a fucking because i remember
when i was uh had like got like a really quick part-time job at amazon they went through this whole.

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Rigmarole about what to do in like active shooter scenario and it's like no
don't go back and save anybody you need to get the fuck out yeah don't be a
hero oh and you know what a lot of kids,
think that is cool so that their parents have
a gun or something and they like bring it for show or like you
know it's just like the curiosity of kids to bring something like that to school

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without the intent you know harming someone now that i can understand but also
parents have to do a better job with you know locking they shit up safely and
not keeping it readily available for
children to play with even in their home like children
are killing themselves in their own home with parents guns so
just like we do have a fucking gun problem like even

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just because you tell your dumb ass kid don't fucking touch the gun
oh okay right you tell them not
to touch the stove and they still do it thank you jesus anyways
but yeah gender affirming surgeries are not happening at school guns are though
that's dangerous that's true work on that work on that republicans or people

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and beat power somebody somebody anybody.
Was that it for these quick teas? I think so. I think we touched all the teas.
I am no longer thirsty. All right. I think these queens have deserved a break.

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podcast in lbc baby and we're back so today i wanted to talk about gooning what
is it are you a goon have you gooned.

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Just kidding, laughing my ass off. No, today I wanted to talk more specifically
about the topic of erotic trans states.
Erotic trans states and sexual control dynamics.
But yeah, Goonie actually falls into that. I wanted to talk about Goonie because
I keep seeing that word everywhere, but it's almost like a non-topic.

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So I decided we should talk about the plethora of small little sexual things
that encompass the greater topic of erotic trans states and sexual control dynamics.
So what exactly is that?
So an erotic trans state refers to a mental and emotional condition where a
person enters a heightened state of arousal that feels almost hypnotic or trans-like.

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This state often involves prolonged sexual stimulation or focus,
which can lead to a sense of euphoria, disconnection from time,
or even a meditative state of mind.
Individuals in an erotic trance are typically absorbed in the sensations of
their body or fantasies, experiencing a deep mental immersion in the sexual act itself.

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Practices like edging, gooning and erotic hypnosis are commonly associated with
achieving such a state where arousal is sustained at a high level for extended periods.
But sexual control dynamics refers to the power exchange that takes place during

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sexual activities where one partner may dominate or control the sexual experience
while the other consent to a submissive or controlled role.
This could manifest in practices like BDSM, chastity play, JOI,
jerk off instruction, or ruined orgasm, where controlled over pleasure,

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arousal, or orgasm is a key focus.
These dynamics are often about the interplay of power, trust,
and emotional connection where the dominant partner manages the intensity or
outcome of this sexual experience.
The control partner may find excitement, pleasure, or emotional fulfillment
in surrounding control or being guided throughout, I mean, through various sexual scenarios.

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So in combination, erotic trans states and sexual control dynamics explore the
psychological and physical aspects of sexual experiences that are deeply immersed
and focused on the power balance between control and surrender.
Render which one do you feel do you have any of you done well i guess we all done some form of.

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These things yeah you know what i'm saying extra control yeah right you know
what i'm saying but you don't even think about it like that which is wow but
i would like i don't think i had a erotic trans state experience yet not that
i can recall you know i'm saying like i've i think that that would probably
be like quite interesting,

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but like, what does that in that's right.
I feel like just like, damn, I guess that's yeah. Like.
Damn i don't know what actually makes that trans state like because this is all about,
psychological right right because i'm trying to like think

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i'm like well how is it different a different state
of being than like regular sex because i feel
like you're already in that distracted right yeah like intense
focus mode when you're fucking so like
maybe it's like the extended period of
time well like yeah i think exactly that's what it is it's the extended period
of time yeah i feel like i feel

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like i've had experiences with sexual partners
in which like you're in like this flow with each
other and it just like it's just doing its thing and
it just feels like very like there's
a lot more energy to it like it's a lot more palpable that makes sense and i
feel like when i've had like i feel like the closest i've gotten to this energetic
state it was like that where it felt like there was like energetic connection

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where I felt like it was like tingling in my forehead and like in my stomach
and it just felt like energy was just flowing between the two of us as we're having sex.
Okay. And I feel that's a very different state than like I've had other times
where I've had sex and it hasn't had that like energetic connection.
Okay. But when I'm in that energetic connection like everything feels like super heightened.

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So how do you allow yourself to open up in regards to allowing that.
That connection to happen i feel it's a lot about like familiarity
like this person that i've had this experience with
is someone that i've had like a lot of sexual encounters with and
i think we're very like familiar with each other so i
think that that helps and i think it's just i can't
do it all the time but like that it's like for me

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like i just say it's like just like a flow where y'all it finally just
like clicks in and sinks in and just feels like bigger
and bigger i don't know i don't know how to get into it it just happens sometimes
i feel like like when you describe like that i feel like it makes
me understand so like it really depends on the other person like
you have to both be in it together yeah and like
obviously you can't be like flowing

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in this state while the other person is like either not
liking you or like a dead fish yeah or like
whatever right so you both and i
feel like it's not even about like letting yourself get there it's almost
like we're already there yeah when you
and that person like are like engaged in the
they act or like even just locking each other's

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eyes right as when it begins yeah and then
it's just like you both are just like yeah in this whirlwind i
feel like breath is also important to it okay yeah like
when your breath sinks together and it kind of just
flows yeah like have you ever done that thing where like you're like
literally breathing into somebody else's like mouth while you're making out and
then it's like you're getting like lightheaded yeah because it's

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just all carbon dioxide natural poppers but.
I feel like i would like get off.
On doing that with guys like when i was like younger like in
my early gay world it's very tantric like i don't know much about tantric and
i've like only done like great light research of it but like that energetic

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state flow feels like a very tantric related yeah i don't know anything about
tantric sex i just know that it's like long.
Like this was straight people do but i remember
like when me and my fiance had like
hooked up right after we had broken up
and like we literally

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like got together like at 10 o'clock p.m and then
like literally we're just like fucking around until
like i guess like the sun came up and
we weren't on anything like that was like illegal you know
what i mean so like the only thing we had to fuel us was
alcohol and weed but like the
time went so quick and it was crazy because i was like what the sun yes yeah

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that does happen and i'm just in the zone yeah so i was like i don't know maybe
that was part of that kind of flow thing maybe or like altered states yeah but
like Like, I don't understand gooning.
I mean, I know that it's basically just like allowing yourself to goon.

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Like, I don't know. Find the word with the word. With the right.
To be gooned. From what I can just assume what it is, it's just basically like
you just allow your body to feel.
But your facial expressions is like you don't control like you don't control

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as you're not able to control your facial expression yeah or your body while you're edging or.
Right yeah i thought that the facial expression has something to do with there
so i was reading somewhere like how like those anime chicks are like cross-eyed and like.

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Like that right but then i was asking my younger co-worker who's like a z a
gen z or whatever and i was like hey what does gooning mean,
i know he was just looked at me like what the fuck and then he was like he started
laughing and he was like what and i was like what is gooning and he was like

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do you know what it means and i was like i don't know and then i was like are you gooning over there.
And he was like oh my god but no i guess he said that he described it to me
as like just like prolonged like jerking off basically like edging okay but
like i always heard of edging but like don't you come when you're edging like

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the purpose is to have like a huge cum load because of the
edging i have a bigger orgasm yeah the bigger orgasm yeah
but then allegedly this gooning is just like this like heightened sexual experience
forever but without an orgasm oh they're just doing it for the pleasure along
the way yeah i guess so i i've heard of gooning in the context of like more

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of the facial expressions like i remember i seen like when i had x,
people would post that they're gooners and like it was always pictures of like
what their face altered so the eyes were bigger and their tongues were sticking
out okay so like i always stupefied yeah i've always connected gooning with
some sort of like facial expression and in terms of like you're just so in it

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like you're not even paying attention to like what your body is doing.
I did y'all just about to
get off subject for like a quick second but beyonce came
out with a video of like her wash day of her
hair and she made a facial expression and it looked like she was goony like
it's right it's crazy right but she wasn't she was just making a face but it

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looks like goony yeah because she was just like it's like she made like a crazy cross-eyed look,
just freeze framed it badly yes no it was it was like in a video so it was just
like Like somebody like, you know, like when you see it, I immediately thought of Goonie.
I was like, oh, because that's what you usually see when you see people going

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is like cross side or mouth open a little slob. Yeah. I mean,
she wasn't doing all that.
But like the more extra you are, the more fun you're having.
Beyonce, the queen of Gooners. I do like, you know what?
When I do watch porn, I do like looking at the people's facial expressions.
Me too. You know what I'm saying? i don't know how i would feel if i saw like

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a gooner face in porn though oh yeah i feel like i would laugh like how you
laughed in the beginning of this right yeah if it's like some of the more goofy
motherfuckers like no like but like i like to see they're like that they're
enjoying themselves and like having a good time and the the pleasure that they're.
Getting i want to say i must have done gooning at some point with my with anybody

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i feel like because it's so extra and it's like almost like you're just putting on a show right Right.
Because obviously you're never going to get to that point.
Will you? That you're just like so intensely pleasured that you're just like stupefied?
Or is it all just for the aesthetic?

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Because everybody, I mean, you do know like sex is a show sometimes.
So, I mean, I feel like it's just part of the show and I feel like I must have done it.
At some point some point and then also you're not looking in the mirror so you
yeah you know what i'm saying that's true because i am also the kind of person
who likes to like give a show and i'm like extra because i'm extra it was the

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quotes for me the air quotes,
because i am extra in bed too i think off broadway like like yeah like i'll
get verbal too like okay like just like to get like my fiance going even more
because i noticed that like he
like when we're messing around and i start getting verbal and i start getting

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like dirty then he like starts jerking himself off a lot more furiously so that
means i guess that he likes it.
Okay that's understandable so yeah
i feel like it's part of the show i also i
also associate poppers with gooners like yeah i feel like i've heard a lot of

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them like using poppers like obsessively to get to that state in point two now
that you mention it i feel like that is the thing because then it's like you
are stupefied and then you start going like.
Take enough poppers feel my brain i'm so high on everything all at the same time that i'm,

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out of it let me see but there is like but yeah i want to so i'm going to try
my best to have a erotic trans state erotic trans state experience how when who fucking knows,
it's i'm gonna make it happen but i mean

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i guess i fucking ash before so shit that's but i
never got to a neurotic trans state though
you know i'm saying yeah me either so like
that's what i'm gonna try to aim for but like the sexual control dynamics i
mean like yeah i mean i think we all have done those like but like bdsm i've

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not have done that per se but have y'all ever did any,
bdsl one second i just wanted to get a quick definition of
bdsm no of gooning oh so
slang term gooning generally refers to state of extreme arousal
or sexual stimulation often associated with prolonged viewing of pornography

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or other explicit material is described with being in a trance-like state almost
euphoric state where person is so immersed in the act of self-pleasure they
lose track of time and surroundings the term has gained traction in online forums
and some cultures related to kink and fetishes.
But edging is different because that is the practice of delaying orgasm to intensify the eventual climax.

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I just want to get that out of the way.
Go on. But no, BDSM. So that's like, I guess I should probably see what that acronym means.
I think it's, if memory serves me correctly, domination, well,
B is for? Bondage. Bondage.

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Domination what's that s words like uh.
Sadomasochist yes yes is it that though because i feel like we did an episode
on it and that wasn't it let's look it up all right so bdsm is a variety of
often erotic practices or role playing involving

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bondage, discipline,
dominance, and submission,
and sadomasochism, and other related interpersonal dynamics,
given the wide range of practices, some of which may be engaged in by people

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who do not consider themselves being practicing BDSM culture.
Oh, okay. So, yeah. What is sadism?
Okay pain or humiliation okay so you either like getting pain or giving i you
know what i think i might like pain because i like that and look i i'll get

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tattoos so but like it don't really,
okay maybe i because i don't get a boner when i fucking getting
tattoos and shit but like doesn't hurt
it doesn't hurt you know what
i mean like i don't like it's weird
so i might be into wanting more
well hold on now well like

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under bsm it's like power play role play pain
play bondage like wax play okay edging
sensory deprivation humiliation have you
ever done sensory deprivation no i saw something
on pose where they put someone
in a sensory deprivation or they like put them in like a whole
full leather suit body and then they put them in

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this like huge container and they were
just left there for like weeks ever watch the episode of pose i think
so yeah so i've seen that like on
in like media interesting huh but i'm sure it could be also as light as like
maybe like covering your eyes and like just relying on your touch as well yeah

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there's different like pie gradients to it like being blindfolded and just.
What about sissification have you
ever explored sissification or feminization in your sexual experiences I have
so I used to mess around with this dude and he was bi but he would like to wear

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his girlfriend's underwear when we fucked,
and I was into it.
It's over like yeah it was just like but it is crazy because like you would
like if you see him you wouldn't have,
that that would be something that that person would be

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into but you never know until you interact with people
that's true and i allow people that
i mess around with like i look i'm open-minded you know very i guess i give
individuals the the energy that they can you know be honest and upfront and
free to express their sexual desires because he asked us i don't give a fuck,

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do you do what's gonna make you happy yeah because at
the end of the day the day gonna end and we're gonna both bust another
so i had a
friend with benefits like the first time we met up he wanted me to wear panties
and so he actually gave me a pair oh nice yeah so we hooked up i i wore them
and then like we became friends with benefits after that so like every Every

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time I went to go hook up with him, I would wear them for him.
Interesting. Did you get off to it too? It was cool.
Yeah, I think I liked it because it was like, oh, I feel very Femi. This is kind of cool.
It was definitely an embracement of another part of me.
Nice. Yeah. Interesting. What about you?

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No, I have not explored that. One time, this cholo in a factory warehouse that
I met up with off of Craigslist tried forcing me to wear, like, this women's panties.
Like, they were, like, these red lacy panties. But I was like, what?
Because I was caught off guard because, like, it wasn't even,

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like, talked about. Oh, okay. It was just, like, out of the fucking blue and shit. Uh-huh.
And so I was like, what? and i was like no because
he was also giving like he's possibly straight in
the closet vibes and so it
was like dangerous feeling oh so
like he felt like he was like trying to

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force me to wear them but i was like no i stood my ground and i was like no
i don't want to wear it if he would have like maybe talked about it before would
you have been more open probably yeah but like the it It was just like,
I don't know. I was caught off guard. And I was also like, what?
I was like, because it made me feel like he was trying to make me be his woman

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in a way like that he couldn't deal with being with a guy.
So he had to force the other person to be the woman.
And I think that's what he was trying to do in that scenario.
That's how you felt? Yeah. Oh, okay. And so that's why I also took it to kind of be like, oh, no.

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Like, I don't know what you're on.
Like, I'm not going to pretend with
you that I'm a lady so you can get off because you're scared to be gay.
Or he just probably just liked...
You know just almost like how your friends would benefit
but it felt it felt it felt different though yeah

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it felt like it was the way that i was oh okay it didn't
feel like this is interesting and fun
and okay like it was more like and he was like probably like pushy with it yeah
this is the only way i'm gonna have sex with you it was like i'm gonna beat
your ass like vibes oh okay so it was like yeah i'm in danger not conducive to a boner,

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Yeah, it was kind of scary. But also kind of hot.
You went home and jacked off to it. He had a rosary tattoo around his neck.
Oh, a tattoo. He was extreme.
Girl, I would put them on. Like, okay, let's do this. Let's do this story.
Let's see what else we got in here. Or hypnosis. Have you guys ever been hypnotized? Never.

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Never, never. I don't know if that... See, now, this is...
I do i don't know if i i believe in so much
shit that i don't know if i believe i i
guess you can if you allow yourself to be
hypnotized you know i'm saying i believe that
you can achieve that but you have to be mentally mentally prepared for that

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and allow yourself to want to accept it you know i'm saying yeah because if
you i feel like if you fight it it's not gonna work but i was like i I also
don't want to do it because I don't know what I'll be fucking doing.
You know what I mean? Yeah. I've seen that the fair.
Is it the same way? Right. Like, is it the same kind of hypnosis that you see

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like in fairs and like, and you're going to bark like a dog?
Like, what the fuck? Like, I don't know.
I'll be open to trying it. But I'm like, how would, doctor, what is the,
maybe it's like ramifications of. I think it's also like there's a difference
between like pop culture hypnosis and then like.

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Like this type of hypnosis which is like a meditative state
like body connection probably hypnosis
like that's why i would imagine because like that doesn't
sound very consensual if you're hypnotizing someone right and especially like
i don't know what i'm gonna be doing if i'm not in my right state of mind yeah
so like when i seen like therapists who got like a hypnosis training their their

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hypnosis isn't like what you see at the fair it's more of like a very meditative kind
of like we're connecting to your
body and sensations and kind of going in okay yeah
so there's no like spiral and watch like no i
i one time i went to like a training like
a training when my jobs was having it but it was

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it wasn't necessary but it was helpful okay yeah well i'm maybe it's like you
know how like two people like engage in like weird ass shit like cannibalism
maybe it's like the person is like that kind of a person where they're like
yeah I'll engage in being hypnotized cause I'm,
fucked up but addiction and compulsivity.

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And pornography use have you guys ever found yourselves losing control over
watching too much porno? what do you mean by that?
Excuse me I mean like I like watching porn because one, you get to see so many different types of.

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People i'm of white men right exactly like
exactly like you get to see so many and especially and one thing i have found
myself doing now or like seeing is actually like different countries and like
just listening to them like i don't know what they're saying but like just you know

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what i'm saying just to like wow like it's i
find it interesting like yeah so i
think i do find myself indulging into
porn more just because
of that like being able to see different types
of people and body types instead of just white

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people brazilians czechoslovakian right
who else international yeah international
players baby no i've
never like lost track of time because of porn well
have i no i don't think so i'm pretty
sure like no i don't think

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pornography has ever like gone into my life where it's like caused me to like
miss work hours or like no no no no no right like miss like social obligations
no oh no like the only thing that probably happened is that I fucking went to
sleep later than I meant to right.
But shit damn that's crazy to get off subject one more time I seen a post earlier

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this week where it was like,
what they need to do in the gay clubs now to bring it back to our safe space
and start playing gay porn oh I know I saw that to get the straights out.
They right I was like that does kind of make sense mhm i don't see why not you
ally or not right you an ally or not one or the other but yeah like i do,

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like porn but i don't let it get out of hand i don't think i don't have like
a addictive state of mind when it comes to like those type of things,
but i wouldn't mind like have y'all tried bondage no i haven't but like i feel like you know just
like time to motherfucker up and you know, like at least a hands and like,

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you know, like on the band and just like pleasuring them would be a good experience.
Oh shit. Yeah. I never really think about bondage like that.
Right. What you, you think of it more like with pain.

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Yeah, or no, I just don't ever think about it for myself, I should say.
Oh, okay, okay. What about cock and ball torture? Oh, no.
Have you seen those things that it's like these little dick cages?
What is it, cock cage? Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so you put your flaccid
wiener and balls in a metal cage.
And it is for your partner to, I guess, decide when it can be released.

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That could also be like the chastity thing, too. Yeah, the chastity fetish.
But I've definitely seen the cock and ball cage.
Like, and you get it locked up, and then, like, you can give the key to someone,
or you can keep it yourself, or promise yourself something. Like,
it's very, like, intentional.
I feel like me and my fiance almost got one of those when we were,

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like, getting together.
And then, I don't know why, the purchase was never made, but we were both very
interested in this idea.
Idea because i was i feel like do we
make it's for the pleasure of just
being locked and you know put away i'm assuming
but for some reason i felt like do it shrink your
dick too no but i don't know how like

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if you did get an erection like that would
not hurt it would hurt so i guess
that's probably why because then you probably won't be able to
get aroused so you mentally it
just stops right you feel like and then
so when it happens it's like oh euphoria like
a motherfucker maybe because they look small they do they look hella small and

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i'm like oh that look like that painful you wouldn't try that doctor no i don't
think i would scary it's scary like what if something happens and like right penis gets chopped off.
That definitely definitely does not but yeah I'm looking at these and they look
kind of small like I feel like it's that's interesting,

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yeah see look at it that's tiny yeah I mean if you're definitely maybe they
come all shapes and sizes mhm.
Growers, not showers. Yeah. Let's see. Anything else? Anything else? Anything else?
Have you ever heard of this ruined orgasms? No, this is the first time I've
ever heard of it. Right. And I don't understand what it means.

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So, what does it say?
Fuck, where did it go? A practice where the orgasm is intentionally made unsatisfying
by stopping or disrupting simulation at the moment of climax.
Hmm. Wait, say that one more time. a practice
where the orgasm is intentionally made unsatisfying by stopping or disrupting

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stimulation at the moment of climax so like the person's about to like come
and then you just like stop abruptly moving yeah i guess so or you're like just
i don't know are you like pull out,
both i guess right maybe it's like
connected to like getting caught jerking off where
you have to to like stop oh okay suddenly oh

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and you're into that oh maybe like you
get caught like by i don't know your parent and then or somebody and then it
like turns into this like secret like fetish right the rush of getting caught
i gotta stop oh maybe i don't know right like i yeah that's,

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would never known that to be a thing right like why would you not want to have
what i mean i guess a lot of these like the theme is like not getting off right
i've like known about like people who are like into that idea but i'm like but
are why are you not you're not getting off.
And they're like but the whole sensation is the great part but i'm like but

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wouldn't the orgasm also be an also added bonus.
Right. On top of everything. Why can't we enjoy it all? Right.
But I would say that people who are more orgasm focused probably don't enjoy
the pleasure part leading up to it as much. The journey.
Long trek. Just focus on beating off as fast as you can so you can get to that orgasm.

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I feel like I'm a one minute man and proud.
I achieved that orgasm in one and done one time efficiency, right?
Nobody ever puts it in that, in that light.
I'm very efficient and good at this orgasm. Thank you.
What was it? Sensory deprivation. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Anything? I've never tried that before. Me too.
I feel like even getting blindfolded would be considered, right?
Yeah, I think so. You say what? Blindfolded. Oh, yeah.
I'm not putting in earplugs.
I don't want to hear this shit. I don't want to hear this shit.
You can do everything else, just earplugs. Right. That's wild.

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But yeah i think i would like probably do blindfold i mean no i wouldn't i mean
i feel like that's part of your like being bound up no yeah you'd be blindfolded
well you'd like to blindfold another person right yeah because i got this i'm
a visual motherfucker like,
yeah i don't think i can be blindfolded no now

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that i think of it yeah i feel like i've definitely walked in like many a grinder hookup where
they have been sensory deprivated and i
am walking in so like like
in a dark room or something like that yeah like i feel like
i've been with like people who have either like
worn like a mask or even like just
even a blindfold itself or what is it like even like just like an eye what are

(01:08:14):
those like sleeping masks or what else or i don't know if like ball and gag
would be considered like i guess it's some kind of deprivation or like restraint.
Yeah, because I don't think you can't talk. And most people like to breathe
through their mouth. So you have to breathe through your nose.

(01:08:34):
So that's probably like a different... So yeah, I feel like I've definitely
explored what other people are doing it. Right.
Because I guess if you go to a bathhouse, that's mostly a lot of...
I wonder, like, would you be able to consider that like almost like an erotic
trans state because when you're in that type of environment it's like you well

(01:09:02):
i guess well i guess it is an erotic train i mean train.
Oops but i feel like that would be like a the same sense of like being in that
trans state of mind because when you're in there it's also like a it's a cold
when you're it's like this is almost
like the hunt when you're in the bathhouse like the

(01:09:24):
cruising yeah you become like an altered state of
mind yeah right yeah you get into a different
headspace exactly right you turn into predator and prey you gotta look for you
gotta you just can't go into a bathhouse and just get straight to it which is
like a definitely a different experience right than just like walking in the
grocery store right like those type of cruises because at least you know those

(01:09:47):
people that are there are,
you don't wanna be cruising on their own, motherfucker.
You know what I mean? They're most likely not gonna roll up on anybody. Exactly.
Like maybe you'll eye somebody from far away.
Yeah. But it's a little different inside the bathhouse, I guess.
That's true. When's the last time y'all been to one? I've never been to one.
You've never been to one? Of all the things I've done in my fucking life. In your life. Right.

(01:10:10):
Wow. If you go on the next, well, no, you're, yeah.
Well, because when I was like younger, I'm like, I would talk to guys,
like there would always be like a random guy, like I would talk to who would
like talk about going to one together.
And then, I don't know, I was just young and inexperienced. so
i was like what they described to me did not sound
safe so i was like not trying to go like i

(01:10:31):
imagined it like being in like skid row and then
like some random like like shack rolls up
warehouse right yeah it was like dirty like that's what
i imagined it was like dirty floors everywhere and it's like sketch
as fuck that's the only thing i could have ever imagined it
being so i never went okay that makes sense it's a
great experience yeah like i don't imagine it as being

(01:10:52):
like we spa ball some of them are yeah
some of them are a steam room jacuzzi pool
dark room well there ain't
no real jacuzzi like i imagine like just like it being like concrete floors
and like come on the ground like also like wet and steamy but with like steam

(01:11:16):
pipes very industrial i imagine Oh,
okay. Very killer vibes.
1920s. Yeah, I was imagining that house. I was imagining like dilapidated warehouse. Great depression.
Is that it for any other trance states? Any other trance moments you've had
that you can't remember? I'm trying to see. I think definitely poppers help,

(01:11:39):
bring out this trance mode not that i recommend that to anybody you're a guest cleaners never,
jalapeno poppers only even though those are gross i don't eat those right especially
the ones with the cream cheese in the middle oh who's eating that i know it
was like one time i ordered that who the fuck put cream cheese you raggedy bitch

(01:11:59):
give me my goddamn nacho cheese and my jalapeno Papas. They love putting cream cheese in shit.
Who do? People. Oh, people, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Cream cheese only belongs on a bagel. Right? Mm-hmm. Or I guess a cheesecake.

(01:12:20):
Yeah, that would sound good. Is there any more gooning thoughts?
I want to goon. Go goon. I want to goon. Goon across America. Everybody's gooning.
Make america goon again.
Goon 2025 right that's the only mag i'll fuck with,

(01:12:42):
make america goon again great i love it t-shirt i put that on the t-shirt no
other trans like states doctor um i could think of has anyone ever had gone
into like a mode have you been
in with anybody who's seemed to gone into like a drooning mode does your husband goon,

(01:13:05):
no because you know what it is i don't think he
does i don't think that right i mean i
have seen people go into those i
mean when you fucking you can
just assume that's the the state of
mind that they're in because they're getting pleasurable but i'm
like is it a difference because i think reality that right because that erotic

(01:13:28):
trance state of mind is just like is it the difference between going on a run
and getting like a runner's high who gets a runner high i don't know not me
so they say so they say it's like gooning of running.
Gross but i feel like there is a difference between kind of just like

(01:13:49):
wanting to come because of like you haven't
in a while versus like really like being
involved in present insects yeah so it makes sense i feel like i've seen gooning
the most in like that like anime bara porn which is like gay anime muscleman

(01:14:10):
porn okay and they're always gooning,
any other goons no more goons you guys gooned out I'm gooned alright goons,
that's what we're gonna call our listeners the goons yeah right,

(01:14:33):
alright goons.
From all I think that was a good one I'd like to say thank myself Nino Dr.
Mikey and Christoph From all of us here From all of us here At the Queer LBC,
I'd like to say thank you Oh I already said that From all of us here at the

(01:14:57):
Queer LBC You're good enough You're smart enough And doggone it People like you Good night,
Wait P.S.
One last thing I saw the river as I was driving over here The river?
Yeah the river Oh, like the LA River?
Yeah, the one that L.B. Boulevard goes over. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

(01:15:18):
And I'm like, why is everybody making fun of France? Like, bitch,
we don't even have a river.
What are they going to do to swim over here? They're not going to swim in the
river. They're going to swim in the ocean. That's even worse.
Well, that's true. All that trash. Well, that'd be pools.
Right. Because all the shit goes into the ocean.

(01:15:40):
I don't... I mean...
When it rains. Just saying. Just like how it does in the France River.
Their plumbing is the same as ours. Where it just overflows with the water into
the water. Into the river. Anyways.
From all of us here at Olympics Headquarters. Don't swim in the water.
Don't drink the tap. Get a bit of filter. Good night. Good night. Ha ha! Damn.

(01:16:08):
Good night. Good night. Good night. You're welcome.
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