Safe Spaces

Hey y’all welcome back to another episode of the QueerLBC podcast. In todays quick tea we discuss the X-men creator drama, Shake Shack employees that attacked a gay couple, the Orange County Board of Education joining legal challenge against ban on ‘forced outing’ policies, Jools Lebron’s Viral “Very Demure, Very Mindful” drama, and the Mpox global outbreak. Then in on main topic we discuss queer safe spaces! You won’t wanna miss!

 

Episode Transcript

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Our show includes graphic references to topics such as sexual abuse,
self-harm, violence, eating disorders, explicit language, and sexual acts.
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Good morning and welcome back to another episode of the Queer LBC Podcast.

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Today in gay, Biden's new Title IX rules are all set to take effect, but not in these states.
Also in gay x-men creator drama
today in homophobia gay couple
severely beaten by shake shack employees after kissing today
in transphobia orange county board
of education joins legal challenge against ban on

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forced outing policies also in
transphobia someone has tried to trademark jules
lebron's viral very demure very mindful thingy
today in yas the colorado gop
chair who called lgbtq plus people godless groomers just
lost his job today and what

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the fuck mpox declared a global public health
emergency by world health organization do any of you queens know about any of
these things i don't per se because i was out of town and welcome back but i
did read a few of these things i've read that in homophobia about that At Shake Shack.

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So a gay couple, according to Advocate News, a gay couple is speaking out about
the horrific attack they endured at a Shake Shack after employees reportedly saw them kissing.
Christian Dingus, 28, and his partner were at a branch of the restaurant in
Washington, D.C. with their friends.
Late Saturday, when their innocent display of affection sparked a physical confrontation,

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Dingus told NBC that he and his partner briefly began to kiss as they waited
for their food when a worker accosted them.
A worker came out to us and said that, you know, you can't be doing that here.
Can't do that type of stuff here. He recalled when Dingus' partner said that
he had done anything wrong.
He was escorted out of the restaurant, prompting Dingus to follow, follow and defend him.

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Dinkins said he did argument began in which the employees levished harsh words against the two.
He then told them to not speak to them like that, causing the workers to escalate.
And then one of them, man, pretty
forcibly pushed me out of the way on my shoulder. Dinkins continued.
Next thing I know, that kind of just, I think, sparked the rest of them.
They all just kind of started attacking me at that point, dragging

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me back through the floor and intensely punching me in my head video
filmed by another patron and obtained by nbc shows
a man being pushed and punched by two people in
black shake shack shirts before two others approach digas said that he does
not know how the assault ended as he curled up on the ground to protect himself
digas did recall one customer exiting the restaurant after employees to help

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him the patron who obtained the video also offered him the footage afterwards what the fuck is this
a simple assault with an anti-gay bias motivation how is that like how do you like d.
Hate crime they hate crime right like
a simple assault with an anti-gay bias motivation that's a hate crime bitch

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what the fuck sounds like they're trying not to like get these two these employees
that much trouble but i'm saying like even in dupont circle like it seemed like
something Something is missing out of this story.
Do you know about that place? I don't know about that. I know about that area.
Explain. I don't know what is DuPont Circle. I mean, it's just a neighborhood
in Washington and D.C. I mean, it's...

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It's a residential area but i feel like just i
feel like that wouldn't just take place it's like
upper middle class like i yeah like upper middle class so but i feel like dc
is so lgbtq friendly that i feel like like why the fuck is that happening right
you know what i mean that just shows you it's like but well the video was just

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them getting attacked it wasn't like what caused
it yeah better like i can't kiss my boyfriend on the cheek okay now that without,
getting fucking hate crimed or what if it was one
assaulted now what if it was somebody he hooked up with on sniffies
and they never the drama i don't
know straight people are vicious i don't know but that's rude leave us alone

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we're just trying to get our shakes and burgers obviously i hope y'all get justice
i guess the shake shack about to be canceled well now because y'all really any
need fucking counseling well the chick-fil-a oh wait well the the the people
who own shake shack came out and said that they're taking it very seriously
and they're investigating
and have a zero violence policy so and there's no updates yet so i don't know

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what they're doing with it shake shack is from new york oh it's a new york based okay.
But very unfortunate i hope y'all are okay i hope they are okay but i hope y'all
get your money too right motherfuckers for all they worth shake shack enterprises
does not support governments or groups engaged in or any conflicts i asked if

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they fund israel they don't,
only kidding gay people but that's fucked up sorry gay couple for getting beaten
from shake shack employees but this is why i say like y'all need to go to the
gym and y'all need to fucking take some self-defense classes because it's just gonna fucking happen,
also I'm like motherfucker give me my fucking food and quit worrying about what

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the fuck is going on behind this counter,
worry about what's going on the other side of the counter and I'll worry about
what's going on this side of the counter if anybody else get fucking offended
they can talk to me until then you flip their burger and shake my goddamn shake
right go make your fucking twenty dollars.
Flipping burger I'm like shit like that shouldn't even had not happened right,

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I just assume that people get this way just for a personal reason.
But I feel like nowadays people fuckers are just...
Triggered yeah because it's like off any and everything it doesn't
even matter like if it was a peck on the cheek or
he was sucking his dick in the street why are you beating people
up for any reason like control yourself bitch the fuck yeah like i don't have

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the right to go beat somebody's ass because i don't like what the fuck they're
doing like if some lady kissed her husband on the cheek can i go beat her fucking
ass does that make sense right like i'm like sir and you You want to go tell your manager, right?
Right. Yeah. Like, how does that make sense?
I'm going to beat your ass lady because you kissed your husband.
No. But I'd be interested because like, yeah, DC sounds like a very like open

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place, but like, right. There's still everyone.
There's homophobia everywhere. Right. I mean, you are right.
People are getting called groomers and there's all kinds of anti-trans laws.
There's anti-gay laws. so it's like like regardless of where you're gonna come
like you're gonna you hear anti-homophobic anti-trans things all the time everywhere

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so i think again like you that becomes more prominent in society and it emboldens
people so when they see it it fucking triggers them like a fucking,
yeah yeah i mean the where you're at doesn't matter because i mean i've been
accosted in la that's me too in long beach downtown long beach like right near
broadway i've been accosted I've been accosted by queer people.

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Like I mean you also right I just always try to look at it from two different
standpoints and it's just be like you damned if you do and you damned if you
don't it's just like motherfuckers it's just weird these days just let me live my life right,
The Orange County Board of Education has joined a legal challenge that wants
to overturn a California law that bans forced outing policies in school districts.

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The first of its kind bill in
the nation, AB 1955, was signed into law by Governor Gavin Newsom in July.
It will go into effect on January 1st. The Safety Act, Support Academic Features
and Educators for Today's Youth, AB 1955, will do three things.
Prohibit school districts from implementing forced outing policies,

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provide resources for parents and students to navigate conversations around
gender and identity on their terms,
ensure teachers and school staff are not retaliated against for refusing to forcibly out a student.
The law prohibits school districts and charter schools from implementing policies
that require staff to disclose any information related to a pupil's sexual orientation,

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gender identity, or gender expression to another person without their consent, according to AB 1955.
LGBTQ plus pupils have the right to express themselves freely at school without
fear, punishment, or retaliation, including that teachers or administrators
might out them without their permission, the legislation said.

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These forced outing policies put LGBTQ plus students at risk and harm their mental health.
They also lead to increased bullying, harassment, discrimination,
among other issues, experts have said.
Since 2023, more than a dozen state schools,
including Chino Valley, Temecula, Marietta, and Orange, have proposed and or
passed policies requiring teachers to notify parents if their child identifies

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as transgender or asks to be identified by a different name or pronouns than
listed on the one on their birth certificate.
The Orange County Board of Education is the latest on that notorious list.
Blah, fucking blah, blah, blah.
Did y'all see the picture of this board? They look...
That's what mama said. If I ain't got nothing nice to say, don't say nothing
nice at all. Oh, we found Waldo. I took, right? Okay.

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For real, though. So Orange County is coming in because they're joining the lawsuit against.
Against helping. Against, yes. Because the governor just signed a law that we
can't force out trans kids.
Yeah. Or probably any queer kids. But this was specifically trans kids.

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So the orange county school board
is deciding to challenge that and to doing a lawsuit
of other school districts because they want
to out transfer i mean they
i'm quite sure they have a lot of more other shit they should
be worried about in orange county at their schools than this
i mean that's why i'm like we say it

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like all the time but like we keep flip-flopping like back
and forth and back and forth it's like once the law is
settled that's not settled and then once we get the right it's
taken away again and it's just like where is
like what yeah like what
is the point of voting for kamala and getting all
our rights back when in whatever the fuck another

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four years they're gonna get right the fuck back away and then
do the same fucking thing what is the fucking point of all of this yeah look
at this like it's not even a law yet
it's gonna pass and it's gonna go into effect january and
they're already fighting it like what like five months before.
It goes into effect exactly like you
haven't even experienced what this law is and

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you're already fighting already fighting it
yeah don't even know like i understand okay like
we do want to have like because there
are some laws that are like unjust right like we have
slavery right we had segregation like okay
i understand that laws need to be challenged but like there has
to be some like stop to it you know like

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what is this doing that what harm is
this law that's going to go into effect going to have on
people like i just don't understand i don't
know i mean it's
parents rights they have the right to have
their children's gender be what
they decide it is i don't know

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orange county being orange county yeah
that is also true have you guys seen this
demure girl jewels yeah it's everywhere bro
right what are your thoughts on her get your
coin i i'm here for it here for
it but i cannot hear the word again i i'm demure now yeah my fiance was like

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just showing me like who she was all of a sudden yeah and then it was like i
don't know 15 minutes of of all these people doing it.
And I'm like, okay. Or variations of it. Right, and a lot of celebrities is
even jumping on the trend. But that's crazy how.

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And so I heard something similar. So I heard two things.
One, I heard that like when I was in like almost like a week and a half ago
that these individuals, they were able to make a lot of money and be able to
finish their transition.
Yeah. Then comes out that someone is trying to trademark this LeBron's viral,

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very demure, very mindful.
The feel good meme of the year is now at the center of a potential legal headache.
So after Jules uploaded the video, several news outlets seem to report that
Jules had lost the trademark.
However, as pointed out in a subsequent post by TMZ through Bates filed paperwork

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and it has been assigned to an examiner, it has not yet been reviewed and the
trademark has not been granted.
Also, while the trademark is under review, other parties are able to challenge the application.
Fans of jewels and the phrase have now
adopted a wait and see approach to the filing as
many have noted that they would not purchase merch unless they were

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sure that jewel will benefit financially from
the sale we will not be buying any merch from anyone
that isn't you love one person wrote so sorry
but if money isn't going to directly to jewels if i buy merch
this is what the people are saying if i buy merch
that says very demure then i'm not
buying it wrote another person on the social media site x firmly

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known as twitter it seems that it was just
miscommunication in the media standpoint because
i also she made a tiktok that i've seen online where she was like crying saying
that someone is trying to trademark her saying but then like probably like a
couple of days probably like almost i think yesterday she updated her tiktok

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saying that you know like she She has her legal team on it.
And she looked at very high hope because when she made the first one, she was crying.
And so hopefully everything goes to plan with this new trademarking for you.
But I would rather see it on a T-shirt than hear it again.
I'm like, I wonder who this asshole is who did that.

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You know, motherfuckers be hate. Yeah. They're all haters.
I saw a TikTok about it. and he is
someone he's done this before where he's trademarked someone
else's sayings oh so this is just his yeah and I think he's pretty rich too
he kind of understands like that he's just fucking he's probably looking at
the money and seeing how many retweets and how many likes and everything was

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going up it's like oh this is about to become something.
I mean, hopefully something happens and then she can get justice.
But it's kind of like, even if she did get the trademark anyways,
can all these fucking people be stealing your shit and nobody takes it off of
their website and everything is like copyright infringed the fuck out? Yeah.
And it's like nothing ever happens.

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Like, you don't get that money. You never get that whatever.
It's like, fuck, you're always going to get screwed on that kind of shit.
And i feel like it's kind of like you need to get your coin because i feel like,
do you got no other catchphrases right but she but
it's it's not like she's been saying it for a long
time it's just now caught on but she's been saying in all
her posts forever so it's like he

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probably won't let us a chance in that trademark suit anyway because
it was like where's your okay let me see let the first time you read
it yeah wrote in that phrase yeah let me
see because i heard there's more that is involved than just
like owning it you have to like proof that you did
it so she has all these receipts everyone crediting her
but it's also part of it is like your

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not allegiance but like your branding like
if it's part of your branding if it's part of like like you are necessary to
make it go viral or famous like you get the trademark so like right i was hearing
tiktoks where it's like their understanding she was freaking out but like there's
a lot more that she has that she has in her favor for her to witness this.

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That's cool. Which I hope she does. She deserves it. You know like.
She needs it for her transition. And she's getting her coin.
She was on Jimmy Fallon when RuPaul was hosting it. Oh, really?
Really? Yeah. That's so nice. RuPaul brought her on and they were going toe
to toe, throwing jokes and shade. Oh, okay. She's really funny.

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I think I gotta go look it up. Right. Interesting.
So she's not a one trick pony? No. I think, yeah, yeah. Well,
I'm not very demure. I'm not very mindful.
No, I take the bet. i am very mindful i'm very undemure undemure i feel like
most people aren't very mindful what was the other it was no it's just those

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two very demure very mindful very cutesy very okay,
yeah i'm not cutesy i don't really
rep those adjectives is that
an adjective to all right what
was oh i did want to talk about this
but i've seen how long this

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article is the x-men shit yes and i
said uh one thing i'm not gonna do is read all that shit but i did see i did
see well because we all remember because i think we talked about it when x-men
first came back out and released on this disney plus that a black queer man
written and directed or whatever,

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But I think it was probably like in the sixth episode or some shit,
it was noted that he was not going to be returning back.
So apparently the allegations against Bo DeMaio is that sources further told
Variety that DeMaio had been accused of sexual misconduct.

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Separately, they added some of DeMeo's social media posts had breached the terms
of his termination contract, leading the studio to remove his name from the season two credits.
In a paywalled newsletter, Collider senior film reporter Jeff Snyder said he
was privately sent more detailed allegations against DeMeo.

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According to Snyder's anonymous source, DeMaio was alleged to have groped an
assistant and have sent photos of himself in various states of undress to other men on staff.
DeMaio has denied the allegations against him.
The truth will be revealed, he wrote in a statement on X.
After their Disney Plus disaster, Marvel wants to mislead with alleged contract breaches over tweets.

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It's tragic it comes to this, but unsurprising. stay
tuned clear it's not clear whether the disaster referred to Disney lost over
a million Disney plus subscribers over the more recent controversy over the
platform's terms of service which Disney lawyers have argued should nullify
wrongfully death lawsuits y'all heard about that?

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So remember that guy he was at Disney Disney
World and the family was going
to sue Disney but Disney says since that
the person who passed the way did a free trial back
in 2014 or something and was
like it means in that time right
and those terms of contracts you he

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deemed not able to sue us for anything i was like oh y'all gots to be fucking
joking me dang that's some shit that was and that's and i'm quite sure that's
when a lot of people's like oh fuck disney i feel like you even putting that
in your fucking contract is like Like, you signing a death notice to yourself,
bitch. Once that happens and people find out, you the fuck?

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Right. You think they're going to still want you? Right. Trust you?
But shit, it's going to be like, fuck, I already got the Disney Plus now, so shit.
Fuck, I'm already- Yeah, you already can't sue them. I'll fuck now, so shit.
That's ridiculous. I wonder if it was all of them or the free trial,
because that guy did the free trial He did the free trial.
And I think, well, you know what? Maybe it was the free trial.
Dang. Imagine. Imagine. Free Disney, but you can't sue me.

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For seven days, but you can't sue us for nothing else. For the rest of your
life We done gave you Seven days of fucking Free content What the fuck So So
just cause you couldn't Sue a company For murdering your You.
In their park does that not mean that they're not liable for death of human beings i mean,

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manslaughter machine that you just made no one can sue no one can get you in
trouble for that right now you just have a land where people can get murdered
like if i'm a psycho disney employee.
And i feel like killing you man sorry bitch guess
it's your time right great tv show this should

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come out on disney plus yeah but i
mean that would not surprise me because
according to the mayo lawyer my
client never sent lewd videos and photos to his direct reports this is a bald-faced
lie defamatory defamatory no one who reported both to hr received an inappropriate

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photo or video apparent apparent to confirm that the mayo had been the subject
of hr complaints As a proud gay black man,
Disney knew exactly who he was and what he stood up for.
Friedman went on to allege that Disney objected to DeMeo's right to free speech
in addition to enforcing legal NDAs, but did not provide further details.

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He also claimed that a certain person at Disney got rid of DeMeo because he
was becoming more successful than the other creators.
Now, that sounds more on brand. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Because that motherfucker was probably fucking the motherfucker who fired the motherfucker.
But also, if you're alleging that people got videos and pictures and where are they?
These are not allegations. If you have that proof. It should be in my HR file.

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Yeah. And I should have had a meeting about this and I should have signed off saying that, yes, boom.
And why isn't that employee not suing him directly?
Exactly. Because they went to HR and HR said, let me handle it. Yeah.
We'll fire him. We'll fire him. Right. With no pictures or videos that you're claiming to have.
Okay, if you have that, then yeah, what he did wasn't cool. But if you're saying

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you have these things, and you're not like, I don't know.
There's a random image I see of him as like a Marvel character.
And I think that's what, I think, because they also stated that him reposting
shit on Instagram, fan art, of X-Men characters, is the form of him.
Now, I can understand that, but I don't know what your contract looked like.

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So for you to repost something they
said that was that also was in lewd of
a disney or a character of marvel but that's
not true he's just shirtless but it wasn't like
it's like i didn't make it i just fucking reposted it
so like me reposting some fan art is grounds

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for me to get terminated purity contracts like they like
you what you're talking about the fucking show is all fucking lewd
exactly so that's why i'm like what are you
saying is like a gay man topless like
sexualized but a straight man topless is not
because and not even a man a fictional
character because isn't wolverine constantly shirtless constantly

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did you see dead man and wolverine this what are
you talking about disney like i don't well i guess that's not disney but
no it is because they own yeah oh yeah i
mean yeah so like it makes no sense it's all
backwards like people don't understand that people have common
sense like it just it makes no sense i
did find the image very sexual that he reposted yeah it was like because i i

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would imagine i would imagine disney is going to have and want some control
of like what you post as someone that's part of their company right like look
at the disney kids like britney spears like demi lovato like all of them right miley maybe Cyrus.
Like they all had to act and like portray themselves a certain way.
So maybe he did violate something in his contract and that pitcher did do that.

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Maybe if you're thinking that it's hot, then...
Maybe it is sexual. I mean, it's no different than old dude.
Yeah, we have to see what the straight people are posting. If they post similar
things, he's the only one who got busted for something like that.
It is no different from watching WWE, which is an official character,
but a real person. That's true.

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You know what I mean? It's just mind-boggling. But I want to support this motherfucker,
but I also want to see Susan Sue.
Let me see this picture to confirm this. Hopefully it gets,
hopefully he can get his credit i mean he already got paid
for season two but he's just not going to get credited on the
show i mean i don't know if he's gonna get

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justice because if a guy can't get murdered in your park i'm
pretty sure they got a dirty fucking contract i mean you also right we're
gonna murder you actually bo wake up
dead bo watch damn the drama said nothing
then i'm gonna go and follow him on instagram later
but i also think like stories like

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these are easily allegations like these
are easily highlighted for queer people because
we are so sexualized too yeah it'd be like you
know that makes sense like he's gay
he would do that right you know we just had that in one of the quick teas right
now yeah you know and it's also like everybody it seems that everybody is so

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progressive we feel like everybody is so progressive so like if you feel like
i'm quite sure disney studios is in california so i'm quite.
Excuse me i'm quite sure that you
will feel like oh like i should be able to be queer a
professional queer in a professional setting so if

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he didn't send any nude acts or anything electronically and there's no proof
and things of that nature this should be rectified very quickly but it comes
to To show that it can't and it probably won't because the people at hand still are assholes.
I would say yes and no because I feel like when I was working in a children's themed.

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No, scratch that. It was like a youth themed YouTube channel.
And yeah, even though it was like very liberal and progressive and like it was
like the only place that I've ever been like super out at work.
And, like, everybody's, like, really cool and accepting and chill with it.
Like, at the same time, it's, like, there's nothing, like, sexual that you would

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be doing or, like, have your mind in, like, that area to, like,
be, like, I'm gonna post...
A shirtless nude of me like that wouldn't come to my mind like where like like on your social media,
i mean not for your youth group no but
for yourself and for your friends or followers yeah

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but i mean i don't know if you're that big of a name and
you're that in i mean if you're in disney and you're
like the biggest show that's going on it's like you and
you're a director a writer like a producer some
like high up like that you become kind of
like without even wanting to yeah
you you become a face without wanting it i feel like this lets some like purity

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bullshit because that what that reminds me also is like what's happening to
like chaparone where she's like setting a boundary yeah her fans and their people
are having feelings about that you know like i feel like there's such these
high expectations of like well you're famous this.
Is what you get right so it's i feel like that's i
don't know that just feels icky to me like it feels like

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people can't have boundaries it's how it
is though i mean it's true it is icky and
it is gross but that is what is going on because they
won't let you and then they're gonna get in trouble you're gonna get
fucking fired yeah for like
weird shit but i mean he was also saying like it's homophobic right
or like some shit he's gonna like have some shit come out

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i mean obviously people are
doing shit that he's allegedly doing and not
getting in trouble for it exactly and so there's
where their homophobia comes out i guess but if
you're actually doing like weird shit then that's also weird we
don't know yeah still investigating so why
like now that monkey pox

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is a global emergency they're calling
it m pox and when it was like a gay thing it was like monkey
pox what kind of rebrand for the
straights is this homophobia like they definitely were calling
it monkey pox the fuck out oh for sure but also can we highlight that when we
had the mpox in our community all us motherfucking gays lined up got our shots

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and that shit was done in what two three months right and then it came to the straights and is a world.
Epidemic m pox no it's monkey pox bitch you're all monkeys just like how you're called us monkeys.
Game monkeys have any of you guys gotten monkey

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pox i have no but i also know
anybody no actually i haven't either i
haven't i haven't known nobody but i went
straight to the department of health when they said that because i'll be in
these streets i was like i'll be damned and also i went and just i don't know

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if this is necessary but i did it and my doctor and i already you know I went and got a second.
I didn't get a second dose, but I got like a booster.
So I'm like, I'm out here trying to be safe. And I'd be down if I had to get,
you know, monkey pox or COVID.

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Chicken pox. Chicken pox. Okay. I don't want no pox.
If you ain't Tupac, I don't want it.
Did you ever hear that Tupac is gay? Yeah. There's a video of him and he's like
super gay. And I'm like, oh my God, he's fucking gay. I mean, he was very...
Feminine right very interesting but
yeah i want to get my booster so so gays

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go get boosted up but the reason why it is a uh a global public health emergency
is because there's like a huge infection in the congo right now so it was monkey
pox came out originally in july 22 that's when When it spread in Europe and America,
that's when we all lined up and got our shots.

(31:36):
But now, following the death of at least 450 people in the Democratic Republic of Congo,
and with the virus continuing to spread across Central and East Africa,
the organization has done so again to declare MPOCs a global public emergency.
So here we go again with this bullshit.

(31:57):
So, like, they always wanted to try these viruses and drop them off in Africa.
And then now it's a world, like, come the fuck on.
This sounds like the same shit that happened back in the 60s and 70s when AIDS,
when it's like, oh, like, AIDS.
The only people who have it are gays in Africa. Right. Like, come on now. Can we get?

(32:23):
Look, damn it. I'm sticking tight.
This shit like do we not see a pattern here right like come on
cdc like y'all can y'all come up with something better and different better
than fucking different than africa and the gays like we can't be the the cause
of every goddamn thing and every fucking pandemic or epidemic because when i

(32:44):
thought about that i was like that just seems like it makes sense like when
i thought about that that
the government administers AIDS.
Because I was thinking about it like back in the day. And I was like,
maybe that's true. I'm like, there's two most hated groups.
Why wouldn't they just. Right. That's just how the fucking, like the government

(33:08):
put drugs in communities.
So like the government is always trying to take somebody out the goddamn game.
So we might want to watch our backs.
We've already been the targets right damn but
yeah but like i think it really highlights
that like we all need like all

(33:30):
groups that are i don't
want to say oppressed but like not privileged you know like
we're all our struggles connected and united so
we really need to acknowledge that and i think this is a perfect example
right like people in congo are dying
from monkey pox and we knew about monkeypox in 2002 it's been around for two

(33:54):
years why haven't we taken the effort to provide resources to everyone around
the world to vaccinate right no no i'm tired of people,
tired of the powers the powers that be anything else.
Nothing that was on the, but did y'all watch the Democratic,
uh, Democrat National Convention?

(34:17):
I didn't see shit. I saw bits and pieces of it. I didn't see it because I was
out of the country, but I did see bits and pieces of it.
But I do know that I've seen how TMZ had got it wrong again.
The Beyonce shit? Right. But everybody, I just want to give this public announcement.
Beyonce is not coming to y'all stagecoach. She ain't coming to y'all DNC.

(34:39):
If she if if it ain't her throwing it she
ain't coming she don't want it right so just want
to go ahead and throw that at us so for all the halloween parties that's about
to come up all the labor day parties all the
white parties you know all the circuit parties all
any all the parties the beyonce is not coming so if

(34:59):
you see it from tmz motherfucking shade room
let me take a quick poll did you think she
was going to show up no i didn't either no i
had i was like that bitch isn't going to no to chicago
for the dnc she said baby let me go ahead feed my kids
i was like kamala already paid for megan she had no more money
left i can't afford beyonce okay she

(35:21):
said i don't need to show up but yeah
i just wanted to say that that shit was quite funny yeah i
was like what is this star-studded event i was like is
bush showing up i heard some rumor that bush was gonna show up I heard about
that rumor too that would have been so fucking hilarious that he was supposed
to endorse Kamala that would have been fucking sick see that's why you can't

(35:42):
trust or see or read anything on the internet these days I wish to happen that
would have been so good it would have been funny.
I mean it's just another war criminal the
only thing i heard from dnc is they didn't allow
a palestinian speaker but they allowed every other speaker
interesting yeah i wonder why that is like

(36:02):
speaker of the house or like speaker speak at dnc so
like they had like queer that black that asian they
had like a idf soldier family so like an israeli soldier family speak at dnc
talking about their right to defend oh yeah garbage okay one of you queers who

(36:22):
are going to the fucking dnc events can you fucking ask her about why is this
shit happening every four years,
and why we got to do these laws every four years please ask her on camera how
do we make a stick how do we make these laws stick thank you but other than
that i think i'm thirsty after this quick tea.
You're thirsty of all this tea? You haven't been quenched?

(36:45):
I have been quenched. Okay. That's the opposite of thirsty.
We're no longer thirsty. I thought I said, um, what I said? You said the right thing. Oh.
See, my mind's playing tricks on me. And we love you for it.
They're not for kids. Should we go for a break? Break time. Break.

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Also, shit, tell a friend about us. Get the word out.
You know, we your favorite LGBTQ plus podcast in LBC, baby.
And we're back so today i
wanted to talk about safe spaces what are they have you ever been to a safe

(38:46):
space when when you went there did you feel safe safe from what exactly do you
need safety or a safe space you little snowflake who goes there what happens there,
go off queens what's a safe space
have you ever been in a safe space my i think a safe space is just

(39:07):
basically what makes you feel safe so like i feel safe everywhere i go because
if i don't then i'm out like my peace and my energy is so important to me so
like if i don't feel safe i feel off like i'm out of there but other than that i'm usually safe.

(39:33):
But so before we get into safe spaces let's consider what is actually a safe
space let's consider it so i
feel like a safe space is any place a republican is not that yeah the end.
I feel like a safe space is somewhere where

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you can be like authentically yourself and not have to
hide parts of yourself right where you don't have to
hide your identity you don't have to hide your race like and like people are
accepting of it basically like a safe place is anywhere you can like unmask
where you could be authentically yourself and not have to worry about like harm
coming towards you or you being othered because i feel like places i don't feel

(40:19):
safe in or a place where i feel othered or like i feel like like i stand out
i feel like my school that i go to is not a safe space i do not feel safe there
someplace where you can let your hair down yeah i feel the same way like somewhere
where you could just just like you said dr mikey,

(40:40):
emotionally and physically safe from harm truly by being 100 authentically yourself Yeah.
Without trying to, you know, act some way or differently to make sure that you
fit in with the masses. That's in that space.
I'll say spaces where you could come in there and walk in and do whatever,

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do just be you do you without, you know, fill in.
Discriminated against about or othered as
you say like yeah but i like safe
spaces because you for that one reason
i mean of course for that one reason but you are
able to be truly yourself and could

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act as goofy as you want or as serious as
you like but as long as you're not causing harm
to no one yeah then you you know shit let
the motherfucker sit in the corner and talk to himself you know this
is this is a safe space
you know i'm saying like shit i just
so if i want to go and twirl in the middle of the goddamn cafe so

(41:44):
be it just to be it right that's true to motherfucker
g-e-t gotta go.
Whatever the fuck that charlotte may not charlotte may that one
song but yes i do love safe
spaces i've tried to always visit safe
spaces i feel like i'm constantly recently in
i don't know because i feel like i'm so traumatized

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that like most places i'm on
edge no matter where i go and like for
it to feel like a safe space i feel
like yeah there has to be no straight men there but i
think i i think that brings up a point of everyone
needs something different from a safe space because everyone's idea
of safety is different like we all have our own histories we

(42:29):
all have our own traumas so everyone's idea
of safety can be drastically different
okay take that back not all straight men yeah hashtag not all straights there
are some straight men that i have i have to remember that i have can't say i
hate all straight people because there are some straight people that i've come

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to love come to love i've learned right.
I was weary at first of course but i've come to love them oh oh see i'm not
straight phobic completely well i am but that's neither here anyways a safe space,

(43:10):
Have I been to a safe space? Well, traditionally, safe spaces for the queer
community are like the LGBTQ centers.
The original ones were the bars. But I don't know how safe they were.
Right? No, you know what's so funny is... I'm so stupid.
Literally, the first place I ever went to that was gay public facing was a safe

(43:36):
space that had no alcohol.
It was the library on Broadway. in long
beach and it was a coffee shop how
does this oh okay i first i've talked you was
talking about the actual library oh like that's right
i thought so too you're talking about the cat the coffee
shop is it still there yeah it's it's on third i

(43:56):
was on third i thought it was on broadway okay no sorry that's
what's up i was like what fucking no anyways the first
place i ever went so when i fucking found this dude who
i was going around on
my girlfriend with he took me to the
library and i was like oh my god this is
like oh my god i'm not even out of the closet yet and so we were scared i was

(44:19):
scared as fuck i wasn't gonna know the midnight step foot in there that i'm
gay because i was like 19 oh and then we just got a coffee i think i got a hot
chocolate and then And we went on our little date and it was like,
yeah, a little gay coffee shop. And I was like, what the fuck?
And like, I was like, right, still closeted. So I was like, oh my God.
I still didn't even feel comfortable because I was so closeted and so like mortified

(44:42):
that I didn't feel like it was safe.
Because I obviously felt like if I was seen by anybody, I would be like caught dead, basically.
Anyways. So basically, it was a safe space, but you couldn't allow yourself
to be safe and be vulnerable in that moment. and it just be your true self.
Yeah, even though, yeah. Right? Like, I was so scared.

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But yeah, it was really cute.
So if you've ever, if you ever go to a non-drink, non-alcoholic safe space,
there's the library cafe.
It is, but also in our beautiful city of Long Beach, we do have an organization
called Safe Spaces of Long Beach.
And basically, it's an organization that basically just, you know,

(45:31):
serves, goes around to different parts of the community and have businesses, schools, cafes,
churches, any place where people can go to.
And they take a pledge to make this a safe space for the LGBTQ plus community.

(45:52):
So you can follow them or visit or you can go to Safe Spaces Long Beach and
they have an Instagram, Facebook. I'm not sure about a TikTok.
But basically what it is is that you take a pledge and you have a flyer in your
window space or your front door or anything of that nature,
allowing individuals of the community to know that this is a safe space for

(46:17):
them where they They can come and be safe, free from ridicule, discrimination,
being othered.
So hopefully, if you do have the time, follow that.
And if you see those pledges throughout the city, go ahead and walk in and feel
safe for a moment while you walk these streets of Long Beach. Safe streets.

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I've never been to something like that, where maybe I have.
I'm quite sure you probably like if nowadays they feel like
all businesses have so much shit in their windows yeah that
you can't really tell but this one also sticks out because one is
a rainbow flag and say you are
welcome here so i'm quite sure if you've been i'm not sure if they probably

(47:03):
did it when you was at the library then but this is roughly new newer probably
about what four years ago i think they started that's cool yeah have you guys
ever been to like a LGBTQ-specific...
Helping kind of event like something like that so i i
mean when i've other than like a gay bar thing like yeah yeah i've been to a

(47:28):
lot of safe spaces with it within that mindset so like especially in the black
community there were a lot of groups that will meet at the lgbt center in Cleveland.
And when I moved here to Long Beach, just for, you know, as Black gay males,

(47:49):
we, you know, walk a different life.
So, and we are seen in a different light as well.
So that was a safe space where we can
share our stories and know that
we're not alone in this queer space space
that we're in with all of our brothers and sisters and it
was quite you know i mean it

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was different to see because you usually don't even feel like
you you always feel like you're alone in this world as
being a queer black male so when
you see others like you and you're in that
safe space where you can be vulnerable and open up it's it
was very you know at that point i
was like i don't give a fuck what nobody else say you know i know there's others

(48:32):
like me and that feel the the same way but yeah
it was safe you was i i opened up you know some people it takes people some
time to open up in a space like that where you talk about vulnerabilities and
things of that nature of being a queer black man so but i also did that but
i also did the total opposite side.

(48:55):
Where i went to a safe space where it was and now this i won't even now this
is about to be weird no okay fuck that this is a safe space right is queer LBC
a safe space can I talk my shit you can't know why so basically when I was in
Cleveland there used to be a,
man's group where it would just be.

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I don't know if you... Okay, so you would just be... It was a naked man's group. Okay.
And the rules were, like, there was no sex. There were no penetration. There were no kissing.
There was none of that. It was just... Like a nudist. It was like a nudist...
Oh, that's cool, though. It was like a nudist type of environment.
And only touching. So only hand to body. Nothing else. Not to dick?

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Nothing. Nope. Don't even... Not even lip to lip.
Your lip can't touch nothing. and it's only like you can't
even kiss a motherfucker's shoulder so it was just like
but it's also that was a time
where i was able to be like oh my god like just the touch of a man's body was
just like without it technically leading to sex was in a different mindset you

(50:08):
know i'm saying so because it at this group you it was just to be touched experiencing right
you know i'm saying so like it i mean ejaculation wasn't
even interesting and you know i'm saying so it was just like the
touch of a body a man's body
vice versa yeah so that was something different

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and i think you know a lot of people should do that without it being sexual
yeah i mean it could i mean both ways kudos to both because i'm doing both i
think that also highlights the the hyper sexuality our community gets right
like i think we buy into that so much And we internalize that.
So we have a terrible, not terrible. We have a very sexualized relationship

(50:50):
with our bodies and other people's bodies.
Like I feel a lot of gay people think they have ownership over other people's bodies. Right. Yeah.
So those are my two safe spaces. How did you feel after that?
Were you like, I felt good.
I felt, and it was also like, I felt like I felt a rush because I wasn't used to it.

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That was like my first time touching a man. Did you pop a boner?
I mean, well, of course, I mean, the wind blow on me, I'm popping a boner.
Like, I don't, it don't really take much.
So it's just like, yeah, I mean, a boner was had.
So, but you know, and nobody
touched it good you know what i'm saying

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interesting very interesting space to be
safe and yeah have you been in any
safe spaces that was one mind-boggling
or like was able to allow you to see something
different in a total different way you know
it's so funny now that you mentioned that nudist shit once upon

(51:53):
a time our former podcaster guy took me
and my ex-boyfriend now to this like gay naked theater show where like the patrons
were all to be naked watching the show of like this like naked show and we're

(52:15):
like what the fuck are we doing.
But are like you were allowed to be clothed you were allowed to not be clothed
most i want to say most everybody was naked us three we did not get naked and
so we were like i don't know why we didn't even just do it but we didn't i think
also because my ex was like so crazy that like,

(52:37):
He was, like, not about, like, letting that happen, probably.
For you to allow you to not do it or for him to not do it? For other people to see you naked? Both.
Oh. Because you know how he just said that gay men like to own other people's bodies?
So he owned mine. Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. Anyways,
so we didn't get naked, but it was really interesting.

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I felt bad because we didn't get naked. Okay. And I was like,
oh, I feel like we're intruding on, like, these naked people.
And we're being like the stick in the mud clothing people
like i didn't really care about like i
needed to be naked because like i was like obviously it's like
i was still like body shy anyways so i
wasn't like trying to be naked but i just felt like oh i felt like we're intruding

(53:20):
on these nudists and we're like being like sticks anyways it was interesting
i didn't really get anything out of it except for like an awkwardness and then
well what was the show about,
I have no clue. I have no memory. Oh.
No memory of what the fuck went on. Only naked people. I was probably really

(53:41):
high the entire time, too. Oh, okay. I think we all probably took edibles.
And then, I think the other thing like that.
One time I worked an LGBTQ center, like, event.
Like, it was, like, a fair. Like, a LGBTQ plus fair for, like,
special needs, like, LGBTQs.

(54:03):
Btqs and so i was like basically working in this booth of like handing people like these,
i want to say like darts i want to say that's what i was doing it was either
something like handing people darts to throw up balloons okay like like a fair
yeah or like handing them like ping pong balls to like throw in like a cup to

(54:26):
like win like a prize type deal anyways that's what I was doing.
I was working those things.
And then this guy hit on me. But they already told us that we couldn't.
We couldn't flirt with any of the people there. So I had to tell him, I'm sorry.
I cannot accept your invitation.

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So it wasn't a safe space.
I guess it wasn't that safe. That one's off your list.
But I mean, it was LGBTQ player. Anyways, it was supposed to be safe.
They just said that we were not supposed to be like fraternizing.
Fraternizing with the help?
I'm or with the with the patrons with

(55:08):
the patrons because we're the i mean you are at work
exactly but also that makes a knock your shine
i'm off in five minutes right anyways and then is there any other lgbtq plus
type event things that i've ever gone to i don't remember offhand what about
you doctor maybe you'll jog my memory yeah i've done well i used to work at

(55:30):
at an lgbt center Oh, okay.
Yeah. So, I worked at one in Palm Springs during an internship of mine.
And then I worked in the Long Beach one for about like two years doing supervision.
Oh, okay. For the mental health department. Mm-hmm.
So, I'm very familiar with like the centers. And I think they're really cool

(55:53):
because they offer so many great things. They offer groups.
They offer like a space. The one in Palm Springs, they like offered a bunch
of groups. And we actually did... Oh, okay.
Like anti-bullying campaign so we went into the high
schools and did presentations to all of
the high schoolers in that school district about just educating them on the
LGBT community and like doing a lot of anti-bullying stuff so that was really

(56:17):
cool so they do a lot of great things and they're really actively trying to
make it safe around the community so that's why I really
appreciate like those centers and then like i've done like little other like
events like the that the los angeles center puts on like they do like music stuff or.

(56:38):
Or they do like poetry nights oh like
different places yeah yeah yeah so i've been to those and
then um i've done like gay men
retreats okay so those like
i there's like a spot near like
san diego and like there they
do like little workshops during the day and like you

(56:59):
do like naked yoga you go on hikes okay it could
be like a naked hike so you could do like a they have
pool parties clothing optional at night
people go up to like the jacuzzi area usually people
are naked up there so that was like very interesting for
me because like you know body dysmorphia you
know all the fun things so like being in

(57:22):
that type of environment and it it
was interesting for me very
it made me reflect on like we can
make all the space as safe as we want but like we
also need to make like our internal space safe because
i was realizing like no one else cares if i'm
naked or not no one else is judging anyone else's body because like not

(57:43):
all these bodies are like the stereotypical like standard or perfection or whatever
you know like they're all they're all just bodies so like the only person that
was stopping me from like enjoying this or like raining on my parade was myself
and like what i thought about my body and myself so like Like,
for me, that was eye-opening to be like, ooh, I need to, like,

(58:04):
create the safety in myself first.
Yeah. In a sense. Mm-hmm. Is there a, to follow off on that,
is there something that an individual can do that would allow them to...
Be safe internally within themselves to conquer
that type of feeling yeah i mean

(58:25):
you could do self-work but i think work like that would
probably be best with like a professional okay just
depending on like your history like your trauma history like
how you're raised and all that stuff because sometimes if
for people who have like a lot of trauma or even just trauma it's hard to say
a lot of trauma because everyone responds or reacts to trauma differently but

(58:46):
But people who have trauma don't feel safe in their bodies because they get
overwhelmed by those traumatic experiences and events.
So they don't want to be in their bodies because their bodies provide these
like not great reactions or feelings.
So a lot of people disconnect from their body. They do drugs.
They, you know, do sex to distract or like they just numb themselves off and not pay attention.

(59:11):
So a lot of the process requires you just spending time with your body.
But for the reason why I suggest a professional help is because sometimes that
could be overwhelming to like sit with your body, sit with sensations.
So be best to have someone be there with you to kind of pay attention to that.
Because like if you don't feel safe in your body and you sink in or feel it,

(59:32):
then it get overwhelming if like something happens for you, you know.
So like you may need extra support to kind of help like regulate you.
But yeah, I think, you know, if you feel you can do the work,
I think it's just journaling. I think journaling is a great tool.
It's paying attention to your body sensation.
You know, like, oh, like I'm noticing this tightness in my chest or like I have

(59:53):
this like feeling in my stomach.
You know, what does that mean? Just sitting with those sensations and not judging
it because like judging it doesn't create safety, you know.
So like you sit with that feeling, sit with the sensation and journal and kind of see what comes up.
Because usually there's some tie to your past about whatever sensation you're having on your body.

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Okay i was gonna suggest us get naked in the
mirror and just look at you i mean that's
the self-work yeah that's the self-work right i think that's
what i've done to get comfortable because i don't look like i
don't i mean i don't have like the stereotypical gay
body that everybody strives to get so i'm
like sometimes i'll just be like i don't give a fuck

(01:00:37):
shit i'm still gonna go to sleep tonight i'm gonna
go ahead and put this speedo on or i'm gonna
go ahead and walk in this party with my shirt
off and just like i don't give a fuck shit yeah i'm
still gonna go i'm still gonna get home go to sleep say my prayers and i'll
be good yeah one of my one of my mentors one thing she said she was like if

(01:00:58):
you ever work with someone who has like social anxiety you just give them this
mantra you tell them every time they walk into the room half the people want
to to be with you and the other half want to sleep with you and you'll feel better all the time,
i know that's right i'm gonna put that in my motherfucker.
One daily affirmation you just want to fuck me you can't fuck me or be me you

(01:01:21):
can never be me darling i know that's fucking right let's see so what how do
you guys feel about safe digital space,
i don't think we are there yet as a people but do
you feel like you know one day we
might get this i feel like just personally

(01:01:43):
when i watch like anything that's
lgbtq related i feel like more relaxed
for some reason i don't have no idea why when i feel like when i listen to like
a gay voice like on a like on a youtube or like a podcast or something i don't
know why but it like set something off in me and i kind of like relax it's weird

(01:02:04):
i don't know i have your guards up I don't know why it doesn't, but it does.
And I get like, I get in like normalized mode and it can like,
it can almost like take me out of like a bad mood sometimes. It's weird.
So weird. I noticed it. Okay.
So that's what you be listening. That's what you listen to. I listen to gay
people or trans people or whatever.

(01:02:28):
That's why you just listen to Queer LBC all day. Queer LBC all day.
I gotta get those numbers up. I feel so safe.
So i think we're kind of there for some
people for some highly traumatized people i don't
know i feel like digital world is a lot more treacherous

(01:02:49):
than reality because i think people are you
hide behind anonymity so you can
say whatever the fuck you want with no consequences and you don't
have to see the person's reaction so i feel like digital
world just feels a lot lot more unsafe for me
you know especially like i i yes like
i know queer forums exist and they're

(01:03:11):
real but sometimes the call is coming from
within you know sometimes we're mean to ourselves and to
the people in our community you know
so like i i think i think what sometimes lacks
from safe spaces or maybe maybe
not lacks but there's an expectation that the safe space is going to be be a

(01:03:31):
place where you don't get harmed and i think even like i love that idea but
i don't think it's realistic because like people are people and sometimes they're
dicks and they're gonna cause harm you know even in a quote-unquote safe space
so i think safe spaces also need like,
conflict resolution and like like what is it like repair you know also right

(01:03:55):
because not every bar is a safe space like i've been to a million bars where
gay people will be like telling the straight
people to get the fuck out. It's not safe for everybody.
That's not very everybody.
Or, like, where, yeah, like, people use gay slurs on each other inside of fucking
gay bars. Or, like, yeah.

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But, yeah, and I think in digital world, like, yeah, they have,
like, moderators. But, like, I even think that's a flawed system.
As far as, like, digital form aspect, I fuck no. Like, stay the fuck away from
people. That's always my motto is become a hermit.
No. Unless that's your safe space.
In my show. Inside your show. but how would they ever know who you are just

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do only fans okay all right now.
So like yeah there's a lot and that's one thing i do like about long beach is
that there are a lot of safe spaces yeah here that individuals can go to and
hopefully if you're not in long beach and you're listening that you're able
to google to find some of the safe spaces that you

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are welcomed at in your
communities because sometimes you need to
just even if you just go there and just sit down
and just take a deep breath you know that at that
moment in that time you are in a safe space one time
me and dr mikey both went to the lgbtq
plus center and was at west hollywood it was for we went

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to go see the undocumented tales oh yeah the premiere
the undocumented tales great series and
it was just like basically it was like a mini like
hollywood premiere like at the lgbtq plus center it
was like red carpet step and repeat all that
it was cool it's so funny though
because like when i am in a space like that i also do kind of

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like i'm thinking in the back of my head so where's
the mass shooter gonna come and like wipe us all out right now so it's like
yeah it's a safe space but it's still a little bit anxiety yeah especially with
like what happened at pulse yeah and colorado the way things are and san diego no.

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So it's that in the back of my head. And then we went to go see Tela Azul play
there also, I think was out there. The same spot.
Yeah. And it's kind of the same feeling. It's kind of like, it's cool being
around like all these queer people and we're all just like in the chairs and
it's like interesting to live in like a fake gay bubble or like a fake LGBTQ bubble.

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And it's like every character here is LGBT.
There's no straights. so it's fun to like do that for like a minute and then
you hear reality and be like oh okay yeah,
you're like oh we don't live in rainbow land unfortunately i
also fear it's like very feel it's very regional as
well because like i feel like true here

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at the the bars in long beach like i feel
more comfortable compared to like when i go to like we ho
and even like those events you mentioned that we went
to together like i don't know like i go to
those events and i don't know i just feel like like
a baby gay for some reason i don't i don't know like it's
just like a very odd feeling where i'm just like i don't think

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we're the same people you know like they just feel like i don't know
like more mature or maybe i'm having a
posture syndrome there's just something about like like those
events we've been to where it wasn't quite like oh it
can like decompress and relax you know go deeper
i don't know because i feel like because that's
why i bring up regional because like those events were in west hollywood and i

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feel like west hollywood has like a reputation for
being snobby yeah for being snobby so maybe that's my bias so how do you feel
baby gay baby because i feel like everyone that goes to those events feels like
they have like their this is probably my imposter syndrome showing like they
have like their shit together and they're They're like, these vacations.

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They just feel like very adult.
And they feel like they know what they're doing in life.
What was that other fucking LGBT event where we all went?
What was that thing? Oh, the one here in Long Beach? The one in Long Beach.
Yeah, for the Imperial Palace or Imperial Court. Yeah, Imperial Court.
I mean, I'm not trying to offend anybody listening, but it does feel like everybody has an agenda.

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Like a personal agenda and they all have something that they're doing.
And that they're there for a reason or they have money that we don't have.
Or like they feel like they're important for
some reason i don't know what it is they
feel like they're like on some other like shit yeah i
don't know i think it's like but to piggyback off

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what you said earlier it's probably like from within it's the
call is coming from within because i
didn't i didn't feel that way i didn't feel that way at
the period at the at that event but i
do understand like if you go into like the we ho and shit like you
just feel like you out you a fish out of the pond like
what is going on yeah you know what i'm

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saying but yeah i it could be a regional thing as
far as you know that but also i
thought you were talking about like you know east coast west coast but in
the midwest is where i did that you know naked man
thing so that was was kind of progressive but also it was kind
of sketch but it also happens oh but

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another safe space that was going to say that happened this previous weekend
which was like i even though it was a block it was a a feeling of nothing but
queer love and happiness at the lone beach big Big Gay Takeover. Oh, yeah.
So it was a lot of queer and gay vendors, supporters of safe spaces.

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Some of those businesses on that block are safe spaces owners.
Members but it was a good time but also
i feel like what you said earlier is like then you realize that
like okay this is not just like rainbows and
clouds because i mean there were
individuals that were straight there but also you

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just kind of realization like i didn't i continue
to be myself but i can feel like some people may
have like did you feel like it's like
a straight event happening in a or a gay event
happening in a straight world at that moment
no because within those walls and.
Those barriers oh queer shit

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was going down you know i'm saying like you just felt the energy
now granted now when you walked out the
barriers yeah downtown long beach
so but you know it was still queer friendly but no
i didn't feel like that was it per
se i feel like some people i've i tend
to watch the crowd so i i did notice

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there were a lot of people who maybe have
not been in a safe space who didn't
know how to feel in a space where there
are others like them to allow them to have
a good time you know what i'm saying an example so
yeah so like if if there's everybody's dancing
like and you see a person and they are

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just not a smile not moving
not dancing the the dj was killing it and you
know like maybe they were maybe it was
social anxiety who knows but at that moment you
can see that everybody around him the whole festival is having a good time but
that person i don't know what it was but was face blah and a cable you know

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what I mean it makes sense,
but like you know you know what I'm saying so it was like something like that
or some people maybe he just wasn't having a good time maybe it was just too
queer for him who knows but.
But, yeah, I've seen a lot of people that was doing that. And then also I've
seen a lot of people having too much damn fun.
Mm-hmm. Like, some of the straight, well, you know, some of the straights are
probably having too much fun in our space.

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What does that mean? Well, you know, like, I don't know. Because there's one
guy, like, I think he was just, like, on drugs or some shit.
And he might, I don't know what he's doing. Like, he was just dancing,
but also just, like, fridging in with his backpack and shit.
How did you know he was straight?
You're right. I assume. soon because i mean he was
because he was weird i've been

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hanging around youtube long that's probably why like that's a weird motherfucker
oh he would have to be straight but yeah like i think and i think he may have
been on drugs because i've seen the police officer started eyeing him because
he was doing a lot of fidgeting and shit and so then like the officer did ask him to

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you know step outside of the barriers
of the festival and then
like he was still just like and then he like knocked over a
fence and ran it was like so maybe
he was on the cake maybe he was on the cake more than the other person
but yes but that was a great event in
long beach to feel in this and i feel like long beach

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do have a lot of safe space events regardless of
it if it's lgbtq or not like this
week they're going to be having hispanic heritage event i believe that's going
to close down pine as well and so like that would be a safe space as well so
like it's just not just for lgbtq plus it's all for all all types all types

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of long beach residents and,
should we should we allow the straights into the lgbtq,
Should be L-G-B-T-Q-I-A-S. But they are in there. They the A.
They the A-L-I. They the L-A.
They the A-L-I. What the fuck? I'm identified as an ally. Ally.

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Speak Valentino. I mean, you can be in our space, but, you know,
the one issue I have, though, is that,
it's straight men because you know women
come into our dance clubs and then what happens is
creepy guys come in chasing after the girls i've seen that at weho like all
the time i remember when i started seeing that shit in abby like this was like

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back in like 2000 and fucking i don't know eight i would see like the one random
creepy guy and then i'd be like i would like be like oh Oh, what's the deal?
And he's like, I'm straight and I'm looking for ladies.
And then I would be like, I guess that's smart, I guess. And then I guess it

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just turned into a fucking thing. A whole thing.
So, yeah, that doesn't make me feel safe. Oh, my fucking God.
My fucking coworker told me fucking last week, have you been to Hamburger Mary's?
And I'm like, shut the fuck. I told him, shut the fuck up and get the fuck away from me.
Have you been to Hamburger Mary's? I was like,
Why are we It just goes to show you That like it is so Like You just assume

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he's straight huh No he is straight Bitch that's not the point of the story,
What's the point The point of the story is that Hamburger Mary's Is so fucking
not even like a safe space It is like literally Just like for straight people
now That all the straight people know it,
nice little introduction i want to say like straight people

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meant drop hamburger marys to me like all the time
and then they want to be like i know
about the gay place wink wink nudge nudge
hamburger marys ha ha ha every single page straight
people does that to me i swear to fucking god i swear
to god i've never got that
you don't see that many fucking straight people that is true and they all say

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the same thing oh my god bought so many drinks i'm like no that did not happen
and shut the fuck up every straight guy always says that that whenever they
go to gay bar all they do is get
bought drinks and i'm like no that never happened i've seen it happen no.
The gays be lusting no not these men not these men,

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they look like somebody uncle tony or something i'm like a straight woman would never hit on you
bitch oh like that one
y'all see that tiktok i know we're getting on subject real quick but she was
like for all you this is a psa for all you straight men we don't want you and
if the gays don't want you what makes you think we want you nothing it was hilarious

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anyway safe space so is there anything else about safe spaces that you want to talk about,
I mean cafes,
the library the cafe on 3rd like what would that be gay friendly dog park.
Yeah. What else? But yeah, a lot of these safe spaces are, at least on the well

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side of safe spaces of Long Beach, a lot of those places is not just bars.
So there are business owners, salons, cafes, libraries, churches.
So there are a few that is without alcohol being involved.
Walled it's so hard to because i feel like
when people say like that they want like

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a non-alcoholic safe space what we
really are desiring is a non a
safe space where we don't have to buy shit buy anything
because if you go to any of those things those are all businesses
right like even the gay coffee shop
i gotta buy the fucking coffee the gay salon i
gotta get my gay gay haircut what else you can go to church without

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a gay church without girl what churches are letting us
in but you know
what i mean it's kind of right like it's all i mean because we also are known
for though that passive wait how did what they call it the the income that just
never stops passive income passive income since we don't have children was since

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that's the the narrative that That they put out there.
You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, the gays, they have so much extra money.
Expendable income. Right. I wish. For real though, shit.
Like, what else could we make that's like a gay space? I guess you can just,
yeah, just make everything gay.
Everything gay. Gay water park. But shit, everything costs. Everything costs.

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Ain't nothing in here free. And gays don't have no money. And shit,
even if you wanted your house to be a safe space, you still got to pay rent. Keep the lights on.
Somebody's got to be making that money. Making that money, honey.
Someone's got to keep those lights on. But yeah, there need to be more safe spaces.
That's why all prides should be subsidized for gays. If you're gay,

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you should get in for free. Right.
Give me a free concert, Kylie Minogue. Right? Shit. Is that it for safe spaces?
Do you feel safe? I feel safe.
Adjacent i feel what if i need to have like a concealed weapon on me to feel
safe can i come to the safe space make it safe still so it's illegal what if

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it's texas did they then you went in a safe state i mean do you gays in texas
bring your concealed weapons into the gay bar,
let us know in the comments do you truly feel safe if you have to have a concealed
weapon on you Probably not Well,
everybody, I think that was a good one From all of us here at the Queer LBC

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I'd like to thank myself Nina, Dr.
Mike And Crystal From all of us here at the Queer LBC You're good enough,
you're smart enough And doggone it People like you Good night Sleep tight,
Don't snore Don't let the monkeypox bite.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.