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(00:00):
Queer Women Rising I come to youlive from my closet while I pack
to go on the luxury lesbian retreat in Canyon Ranch with the
most incredible single lesbians from around the world.
Yes, OK. But I will admit this is the
first time we go on a trip wherenot everyone coming is single

(00:21):
because someone found love inside of Queer Country Club.
Someone went on a retreat with me last May and someone was
like, can you make an introduction for me so that I
can take her on the retreat? Or we could meet up on the
retreat in August. And from that moment, since we
made the introduction and got this lovely, beautiful woman

(00:45):
that one of my past clients was interested in on board, they've
fallen in love. So we have our first couple
coming on the retreat because ofthese special circumstances.
Oh. Excited.
OK, so I ordered some clothes for the retreat.
My thing that I'm most excited about this is a dress for

(01:06):
Meshki. It comes with a scarf that if
you're watching this on YouTube or Spotify, you're going to get
to see. So this is going to wrap around
my neck. Now, the reason I got this dress
is because it is like a walking lesbian flag.
If you're not watching this and just listening, it is a maxi
dress with like a knit top and pleated ombre deep plummy hot

(01:33):
pink fuchsia that goes down intoa terracotta and it's strapless
and it goes down to the floor. Actually have to wear like the
highest heels to get Oh, I even have the heels ready over here
packed because they're so high that I the the dress won't make
sense without it. I also got a cute little rammy

(01:55):
Brook like sun dress. This is definitely our most warm
retreat because we're going to be in Arizona normally like at
night. It's still cool.
This is my first time going to Tucson, AZ in the total heat of
the summer so I don't know what it will be like.
So I'm just bringing like at night I probably won't even wear

(02:17):
like a little coverlet but I will bring something just in
case if I have a feeling it willstill be warm at night.
And I'm just pop this retreat. Like 9 incredible women that I
genuinely can't wait to hang outwith and two that are in love,
that found love inside of the Queer Country Club.
And like the intention was to like during the interviews,

(02:39):
interview team interviews, everyone who applies for the
retreat. So the point was like, hey, can
you just check her out? Can you see like what the vibe
is, 'cause I know my client, my client Reyna has been with me on
a retreat. I get close to my retreat
attendees. I know genuinely their hearts,
what they're looking for. And yeah, I wanted to check her

(03:03):
out for myself. So during her interview, I was
like, I'm popping in and she ended up coming on the retreat
and now I get to hang out with them together.
I don't know, this is just crazy.
Like, this is my freaking life. Like, I don't even I could have
never imagined or dreamed of this for myself, that it'd
literally be my JOB to connect incredible queer women together.

(03:24):
Like, it was always in the cardsfor me.
I always wanted to have a datingplatform.
It was always the dream. Nine team members later, three
years later, here we are living the dream, busting my booty.
Everyone's like, how did you do this?
I'm like, I don't sleep that much.

(03:45):
I work 24/7. I'm literally thinking of my
clients, like, how can I connectso and so and so and so and so.
It's like an insane web on the inside of my head.
But OK, let me read a little bitabout my guests before I play
the episodes. You can know a little bit about
them because they're so, so cool.
OK, Reyna who? OK, let me give you the

(04:05):
contacts. She has been a client and
Inquire Country Club for a while.
She came on the last retreat seeking healing, really just
falling in love with herself. And she did just that.
So she's 40. She's a school counselor based
in Arizona who finds peace and yoga and creating safe spaces
for others. Lori is 48 and works in

(04:27):
advertising in California and loves spending her free time
antiquing and hunting for beautiful old treasures.
They didn't meet on a dating app, not a regular dating app.
They met inside of the Queer Country Club, my lesbian dating
platform for monogamous women who are ready to find that
forever person. There's no question when you get

(04:47):
on Queer Country Club, like what's your intentions?
Are you not looking for forever?Like if you're there, you're
like, when I meet my person, it's going to be the person, one
person, no polyamory, that vibe.So I'm excited that I mean, I
know it works. I get messages every day from
women around the world being like, I fell in love.
But finally, to have two women willing to share their story

(05:09):
because love is personal, right?Share it on the podcast.
Like my heart is just exploding.So yeah, we're going to hear how
they met, what long distance love has been like for them,
what their connection has been like and how spicy it is.
Is this this conversation is like it goes from the depths of

(05:32):
love to the sexiness of the mostdeep, intimate moments with your
partner. Turns out we both went to the
sex same sex toy shop which is hilarious to me.
Shout out to the Pleasure Chest in Los Angeles.

(05:53):
It was my first ever experience with a woman when I first came
out with my first Catalyst girlfriend, so I had to just
find that hilarious. If you if you know, you know.
You know. You know about the Abby and
about the Pleasure Chest. Anyway, welcome to the show
Rayda and Lori who I will be seeing on the retreat in three

(06:15):
days. So I'm recording this on June
30th. If you are interested in coming
with us on a retreat in the future, finding soul sisterhood
and possibly finding the love ofyour life, DM me Getaway or go
to the link in the show notes where you are going to see
information about our next retreat.

(06:38):
When this comes out there will be one more happening in
November that will be the last retreat of the year.
Perfect to go on before you are forced into family festivities
that may not be as fun for no the late November, December
holidays. They can be stressful.
This can be your like breath before all that takes place.

(07:01):
I don't know. I will be honest, I don't know
that I will have quite as many retreats that I hosted this year
next year, simply because matchmaking has been a
beautiful, growing part of my career, but demands time and I

(07:21):
have a great matchmaking staff that helps me.
But yeah, there may be fewer retreats on the calendar next
year simply because of the othergrowth that I am doing and the
way that I'm helping women connect outside of retreats.
So if you are interested, let meknow.

(07:42):
For November, we want to interview you.
We want to make sure you get to join.
We have a wait list of like 200 and we have 10 spots tops so.
You do the math. I will see you.
Inside the interview, This is going to be a juicy one.
Don't let your kids be listeningbecause the love story gets

(08:03):
spicy. Welcome to Queer Men Rising,
Reyna and Lori. I'm so glad you're here.
Hello. Hello.
Sweetheart, let's take a moment to just ground in the love.
The love energy that is so real and thick between you guys and

(08:25):
the universe, and I'll never take it for granted that it gets
to be like literally my JOB to bring souls together.
And what you 2 have is truly magical.
So let's get into it. What was it like the first

(08:45):
moment that you met? Who wants to start with this
story? Rayna, you start.
Do you want me to start? OK, so I joined.
I joined, I think back in April and I was like very skeptical.
I'm like, I'm not going to meet anyone, just going to have fun.
See if there's anyone out there.And one day I got Adm and it was

(09:10):
this beautiful girl. And I was like, wait a minute,
who is this? Why is she messaging me?
And we just started talking. And yeah, it just took off from
there. It it took off from there.
I I don't know. Makes my heart so happy.
How long were you like on the platform before you got that

(09:31):
message? About a month.
OK, It was about a month. Yeah.
I had gotten some weird interactions, some very rude
interactions. And I was like, OK, if this is
what it's about, count me out. But.
That's interesting. I've never heard someone say
that, so I'm sorry that you had an experience like that that.

(09:53):
Person's not even on there anymore, but it was like, it was
just this weird message of like,hi, do you think I'm attractive?
Oh, and I didn't respond. And then like a couple days
later they're like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize it took
a PhD for you to answer the question.
I have a feeling, I have a feeling I know who this was and

(10:16):
that's why we have really good community managers.
And yeah, I think that person was removed.
If I'm thinking of the same, we won't talk about it, you know,
just in case for a confidentiality.
But I yes, we take that stuff very seriously.
But OK, so you have like, like adating platform interaction.
You're like, whatever, OK, this is not going to be my miracle.

(10:38):
And then Reyna comes in. Are you guys like, friendly at
first? Or is it like there's a vibe
immediately? Like does it grow?
Reyna, do you want to add or youwant me to talk?
Yeah, well, I knew I had been there for about a month as well.
And I did the retreat in May. So I was only on the platform

(10:58):
for the retreat while still figuring out my situation.
And I was just on it for communication community, like
contacting, you know, some womensee who's out there.
And then when I saw Lori's picture, I like, blew it up.
And I just, I felt it because I can, I can read energy through

(11:21):
pictures, I guess. And I saw her eyes and her smile
and it was more like a come hit her like, yes, I was like, yes.
So I wrote her and I said something to the along the lines
of you are gorgeous. And that was it.
Because what else am I gonna say?
You're hot. Hey, beautiful.

(11:43):
What's good, you know? No, I was like, you are
gorgeous. And that's how I felt.
So. Beautiful the way that you 2
look at each other like they've been sending me videos from
their dates because it's been a a slightly long distance
interaction. As a lesbian relationships are,
I mean I think if we could find love in our backyard so we
already would have. So most members end up finding

(12:06):
love, you know, across some miles.
And every time you 2 get together, I get the sweetest
messages and it just makes me sohappy because you can see the
energy between you. What makes this energy different
than anything that you've experienced before you?

(12:28):
Want to go or you want me to go,I'll go.
It sounds cliche that like when you meet someone and you know,
and you just know my past relationships have, there's
always been obstacles and insecurities.

(12:50):
And with Reyna, I feel like I can be myself 100%.
I don't have to hide certain things about myself.
I'm quirky. I'm like a big kid.
I mean, I'm 48 years old, but I act like a teenager.
And she embraces that. She's accepting of it.
And this just, it's refreshing. It's nice.

(13:10):
It's what I've been wanting. She allows me to do my thing
without, you know, who are you going out with?
What are you doing? You know, we touch base with
each other all throughout the day.
But it just, it feels right. It just feels right.
There's no hesitation in my heart.
Yeah, I think that like peacefulfeeling without fear, I always

(13:36):
lead with in coaching. Is it love or is it fear?
Because there's really only two feelings that drive us to make
any decisions. And so the way to know if it's
love or if it's fear and you don't know, is, is it peace?
Because some people don't know what love feels like yet.

(13:59):
And maybe you've gotten a momentof peace in your life, even if
it was just a moment. So then you're like, oh, OK,
this is what it's supposed to be.
Exactly, this is what it's supposed to feel like.
I mean, I'm sure I'm not speaking for you, Rayna, but we
both felt love before with partners.
To me, this is different. This is a whole other level.

(14:20):
This is like, I can breathe. And yeah, I mean, she's already
met some of my friends. She met my mom and that's a big
deal to me. Stop laughing.
I'm just, I'm just also like accepting.
Like she's going on a large, my whole family, my whole family.

(14:45):
She's coming on a cruise with usin September, my mom's 70th
birthday. Like she's going with my kids,
with my sisters, their husbands,my nieces, my nephews, my mom's
70th. It's gonna be crazy.
And my sisters are so excited. My mom's even a little weirded
out, but she's also like, OK. And but your mom hasn't been

(15:07):
traditionally accepting of you being a lesbian, right?
Right. But as soon as I told her she's
Russian, it was like, OK, 'causeI swear it's like a European
component where we both are so similar.
We're both like high end but like laid back but like fancy

(15:28):
but like it's, it's we. It's the same perfumes, the same
products, the same pools, the same shoes.
I'm like the same traditions, the same like conversations, the
same food. It's perfect.
I know I have the Angel bumps, too.
I feel like it's just like this friendship that is truly on
fire. Like you've met.

(15:49):
Yeah, like it it. There would be no way that you
couldn't have not met in this lifetime.
It's just a magnetic pool. So obviously instant chemistry.
I know Raina like I'll just be like honest sometimes I play
like little fairy godmother in the DMS but only for I do not

(16:09):
like make introductions for people just in QCC right?
Like you have to either be a private matchmaking client or
you are talking about a retreat.But she's like, hey, I want her
to come on this retreat. Like I'm coming again.
Like I came once before I'm coming again.
Can you just when she goes on her application call, can you
just be honest? Like when you interview her for

(16:29):
the retreat? Can you just tell me like, do
you think like she's good people?
Because I'm feeling and I was like, I got you, girl, I got
you. So I didn't the.
Call came through. I was like, oh hi.
I thought it was just going to be your team and I was like, OK.
Well, normally it is my team to interview for the retreats.

(16:49):
I've like, you know, got to maintain the energy for the
private matchmaking clients. And then once I'm on the
retreat, like Raina could tell you, it's very personal.
Like I am in it with you guys. But for the those calls, yeah,
it's normally A-Team member, butI was like, I got this, like,
I'm going to go fill it out for myself.
So I was so excited to meet you and just see that your

(17:10):
intentions for Reyna were reallygood because I do get to know my
clients, whether it's through any capacity.
It could be QCC, just their own live calls all the time, which
Reyna was. It could be coaching.
It could be a retreat experience.
But I began to really care. I see the trauma that they've

(17:31):
gone through. I see what's been triggering in
their life and what they need inthe future.
And so being able to see you be so sincere in your care and
concern for how you approach therelationship was all I could
really honestly gather in one interaction, right?
But for me, that was such a goodfoundation of like, OK, cool.

(17:54):
I cannot wait to see you on the retreat.
I know this is going to go good.And normally it's a single
lesbian retreat. This is actually the first time
that we have a couple join us because I helped make that
introduction for the retreat. So yeah, this is this is like
another level. I'm so excited.
So anyone who's listening like, yeah, we can bring you and

(18:17):
someone you're interested in QCCon the retreat.
Like if that's your intention, you could also meet your future
wife there. Reyna came the first time met
soul sisters there and within what, 2 weeks or something in
QCC. Then later Matt, Lori, and it's
like. Oh my God.
So yeah, when I got to meet you,it was like, OK, this is good.
She's good people from what I can read, and I think I read

(18:40):
people pretty well. I see a lot of people every day.
And I'm like, oh God, that's crazy.
I don't say it, but I'm like, OK, I would have gone.
I would have gone back and told her right now.
I would have been like, I wish Ihad better.
No, but yeah, all I could do waslike, OK, great.
This looks incredible. Cannot wait.
And there's that compatibility there that you were sharing.

(19:03):
Like everything seems to be the same.
What about lifestyles? Like how do you see yourself
growing in the future because you both have pretty big
careers. Take this one right now.
Well, I mean, we before we even started talking like the second

(19:23):
time, because there was a periodof like a week or two where we
didn't really touch base. And then she had written
something in the QCC that said, where's my future wife and I had
responded probably in Arizona and then just go back in the DMS
and was like, hey, and I was like, oh, OK, go back.
Got your attention. So from that point forward, from
that point forward, I was finally in a position where I

(19:45):
was ready to accept my last relationship ending.
And really I I used the whole full to clear, to cut cords, to
salt my front door, edit it all.Yes, but.
Intentionally the next day therewas a scorpion in my house and I
knew that was my my little last get out of my house.

(20:05):
You're not wanted and then. Excuse.
Me, I I was back in touch with Lori.
And so basically it my, her first thing was I cannot move.
I am solo child to my elderly parents.

(20:27):
I am responsible for them, blah,blah, blah.
And I was like, I would never expect you to move.
But your tag says open to relocation for love.
And I thought that I screenshot it, I shared it to her and I was
like, explain this. And, and she's like, well, what
I meant was, you know, I'd be, I'd be willing to travel.
So I said, look, we don't even know each other yet.

(20:49):
Can we like just see where this goes?
And in a year, if we're both like ready and in love and
wanting, I will move to Los Angeles.
And she was like, OK, right. And so like literally the next
week, I'm like flying out there visiting.
Then a couple weeks later, I flew out there again.
And now she's coming on the retreat.

(21:11):
And then she already has her next flight booked for August
30th. And then we're going to see each
other in September, and then we're going to Maui for New
Year's. This is so amazing.
So this is so, so important. Like when people say, how do I
know someone's into me? It's truly are they preparing

(21:32):
for like a future? Not in a creepy future pacing
way, but like you're making plans to see each other.
There's no like, well, I don't know.
I don't know how they feel like that.
That sureness comes from making those plans.
And if you have to explain to someone why making those plans
are like, important to you more than once, then that's your your

(21:52):
big clue. Like hey.
This is it. This is my person.
It was. Never an issue.
It was like I need to see you before the retreat.
Like I literally have to see youit.
Was a phone call. It was a phone call like in the
morning she's like, what are youdoing?
I said I'm working and she's like, well, what are you doing
the next few days? And I'm like, I'm working, I'm

(22:14):
I'm doing whatever I'm doing. I have no plans.
I'm not doing. She's like, OK, boop, boop,
boop, boop. She's like pick me up at the
airport tonight. And I was like, let's do it.
That daddy initiative, I love it, but.
She wanted to stay at my house and I was like, I don't know
you. Yeah, I know you, but I don't
know you yet. So I was like, that's a little
weird. So she did book a hotel.

(22:36):
Was the hotel used the. First night she stayed at my
house. Everything was used.
The second night I stayed at thehotel with her SO.
I'm telling you there not even aquestion in my mind.
We go into dimensions, we go into different worlds, we go.

(22:59):
We. Go round.
Oh. My God, thank you.
Someone listening to this needs to hear I'm.
Coming again, I said OK, you're not staying in a hotel, you're
staying with me. And it was nice to have her here
for a whole week. Yeah.
You know, just to see what my vibe is and, and what my routine
is, you know, like, I would haveto go to my mom and take care of

(23:20):
something, you know, that happened the first trip.
But like, yeah, it just, it worked.
It worked. It usually it works on one end
more than the other. Right.
This is like both of us coming together, just the energy is
there on both ends. Oh, it makes me so happy to hear

(23:42):
because I will say, I always saylike love isn't enough over 30,
especially when you're in a grounded place in your life and
have a steady career and like a social life, things that are
important to you. You need someone who's going to
fit into your lifestyle more than anything.
The the chemistry obviously has to be there, but beyond that

(24:05):
basic baseline need, you have tofit into each other's lives.
And things get so much more complex as we get older with the
responsibilities of either children or elderly parents.
And to know that you guys can balance that so well together.
And I think it's really beautiful that Raina felt it so
stronger. She's like, I'll literally move
there in a year. Like I'm very clear on this.

(24:28):
Like knowing the destiny and seeing the vision.
I think that's incredibly hot. And like you gave her this, like
I've, I always go back to a little polarity like that space
for Lori to respond to you and like receive the offer that you
put out is really beautiful. And I think so many women get

(24:52):
stuck because they're both initiating so hard.
And then there's no, like, flow or it's one person initiating,
but the next person never takingthe baton like Lori did was
like, yeah, no, actually come here and like, let's, let's
vibe. Let's see if it works.
Like you said, it has to work. It has to fit.

(25:14):
I love this. I love this.
What is Raina? What's your favorite thing ever
about Lori? Like, it could be a habit or
personality trait, anything. What's your favorite thing?
And she is so emotionally secureand like, safe and grounded and

(25:38):
she's so touchy with me and complimentary.
And I know that sounds selfish because I'm saying what she does
for me, but her words match her actions, match her story, match
her history. I mean, she is so honest and so
beautifully humble and she makesme feel that way, like she, I,

(26:06):
I'm a, I'm sometimes a game player.
I like to, you know, I'm going out with someone tonight.
You know, I'll talk to you later.
You know, I try, you know, I want to see what's going on.
And she was like, what are you doing?
Don't play those games with me. I love you, you're mine, I'm
yours like don't be stupid. Like I can get tough if I need

(26:27):
to, but I'm not going to becauseI love you and I'm just going to
kiss you and come here. And that is literally what I
need. I don't need someone to try to
one up me to counter me to to show, you know, jealousy or
anything. I do it to kind of see where
they stand in the beginning and she her words match her actions
and I'm like, I'm blown away. I'm like, you say everything

(26:48):
perfect, you do everything perfect.
And it's like, but that's because our connection.
And even if it's not perfect in her eyes, in my eyes, I'm like,
I see, no, I, I accept you, I, Isupport you, I I'm here for you
because I'm not looking at it inany other way.
Like makes me want to own up to my words.

(27:10):
And I really feel like I'm, I'm changing in the way that I'm
like, no, like this is I'm not, I'm not going to play these
games anymore. And we've, we've put some ground
rules. Yeah, because it's like there's
these patterns, right, that we want to get pulled back into, no
matter how much work we do. I know I feel it when I start to
get into something with somebody.

(27:31):
And that's amazing that you had someone like Lori ground you
and, like, make you realize thatthis is exactly what, like, you
freaking prayed for. And the patterns that want to,
like, rise to the surface, you're strong enough to be like,
no, like, I'm choosing A healthier, better way this time.
I've grown. And being able to be honest

(27:52):
about it and be like, look, I dostruggle with this.
I do struggle with that. And she's like, well, you don't
have to. And I'm here and you can always
talk to me. And it's like, I've been able to
be open about it because I have felt safe and it's completely
accepted and honored and validated.
And I'm like, what the hell is happening?
Like, is this real life? And then we go into like

(28:15):
different levels of like chemistry and emotional and
sexual and physical like it's, it's wild.
I can't explain it when other neither of us can.
We're just like, I don't know. It, I mean on the outside
looking in, it found it sounds like you found someone who
really meets you in every capacity, like someone who's not

(28:38):
going to challenge you for the sake of challenging you, but
challenging you to actually staytogether, be together, be
better. That sounds like what's going
on. So beautiful.
I think we don't romanticize enough healthy relationships
where we talk about like, hey, there are still these like hard

(28:59):
conversations. There are still patterns that
want to come up and what should be romanticized is having that
partner that sees it in you and like wants to protect what you
have. And you being someone who's
willing to continually put in the work.
Because as I've shared with you in the last retreat, like our
healing, we just got to put on our big girl panties because we

(29:21):
don't want to be healing forever.
But when things come up, like inour wholeness, we could still be
triggered. We could still have things come
up. And so will we rise to that
occasion, which you are, and will we have partners support us
in those challenging moments, inthose moments of wanting to
revert back because of pain? It's like not even something

(29:45):
that our current partners doing,but like, wow, if you've had
five toxic relationships before this and you've in your head,
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(32:38):
about Raina? My favorite thing about Raina,
again, it's going back to me. But she sees me, she accepts me.
She gives me just as much as I give her.
I'm not used to that. And it's nice.

(33:00):
She has a we can talk for hours about anything, anything,
everything. She's just, she has a kind
heart. I don't feel like she's going to
take my heart and break it. You know, there is, you know,
with any new relationship that'sin the back of your head, like,

(33:23):
what if this ends? But I'm not thinking that with
her. I'm thinking like, where is this
going to go? Because we are so compatible.
You know. I just, I feel like I, I this
morning she called me, Facetimedme this morning and she starts
today earlier than I do, but like she was still in bed.

(33:46):
I was still in bed and I just was like staring and I'm just
like looking at her is like looking at the most beautiful
painting, you know, and it just makes me feel so warm and happy.
And you know, I haven't felt this.

(34:10):
I honestly don't know if I've ever felt this much.
I've felt things before in previous relationships, but this
is like a whole other level. Yes, she lives far away.
I've done the the long distance before.
I had a four year relationship that was long distance and it
wasn't even like this, you know,like I want to talk to her every

(34:32):
minute of the day because she just, she makes me happy and I
feel peace, like inner peace. I'm content in my own self and
joining the, the QCC. I was like, OK, I have
everything that I want. I have my career, I have my
friends, my family, my cats, my,you know, apartment, whatever.

(34:55):
But I need someone to share thatwith and I need someone to share
life with. And when Raina came around, I
was just like, this is the, thisis the one that I want to do
things with, you know? And when she came here for the
week, we were like non-stop doing things.
Even though you say I don't takeyou anywhere, I took you
everywhere in that way. You know what that is though?

(35:19):
It's because you just want to stay in bed.
That's why you don't go anywhere.
I mean, I was working the whole time.
I, you know, I was working. But like at night, 5:00 came
around. I'm like, let's go.
And we would go out and what do you want to do?
What do you want to see? Like she had never seen a
Hollywood sign. I see it all the time.
So we drove up this Canyon and. It was the full moon.

(35:42):
We did a release. I've talked about it like what
up? That was the night.
That was the the full moon night.
The Rose Quartz night. Yes, OK, Rose Quartz.
So in the DMS, Reyna was like wegot to talk about the Rose
Quartz and I'm like, what do youmean the Rose quartz?
And she's like, we'll go save itfor the podcast.
So without further ado, I am curious we.

(36:05):
Had Reyna, this is all you. So we are very open sexually and
and not. Just like.
Randomly we're like, we want more, we need more, we want to
be inside each other at this point.
But to clarify. You mean not polyamory open?

(36:25):
No, we. We.
Want we like are we, we connect on different levels, like we go
to different realms. Like I can't explain it.
She can't explain it, but it happens and it's something
unique. And so we were just talking
around like toys and, you know, and then all of a sudden you're
your video with the carrot came in to play and she's like, did

(36:46):
you see the carrot? And I'm like, Oh my gosh.
And so anyways, that night, whatweek or what not, we went to a
store and she's like, do you wanna?
And she's like a big toy, like actual toy, like Mickey Mouse
toy person. And she's like to go to the toy
store later. And I'm like, yeah, I wanna go.
I'm thinking like, get my kids some Hello Kitty stuff, you

(37:07):
know, not that kind of toy. Store.
She rolls me up to the toy. Store and I'm like oh OK and
she's like let's go you know walk around or whatever and I'm
like all right so we're like EW weird gross what's this I
thought you know all awkward andthen is this in.
Hollywood yeah, I so I there wasa store that was like my first

(37:27):
experience with my girl. Ever.
Yes, that was the first. With the big sex sign in there,
yes, I that was I could cry. That was my first ever
experience with OK, go on. I'm sorry to interrupt what
makes it so much more. Beautiful because of what we

(37:48):
found in there. In the glass case behind the
counter was a rose quartz dildo.OK.
Actual. Rose.
Quartz sealed. Beautiful.
Yes, in a. Beautiful.
Case so we got it I. Needed to open some chakras.

(38:11):
That night and we got it and. It was the full buck.
Moon we we bucked, we bucked it out.
We we full mooned it out, but weliterally went in there with
intentions and we were like, this is gonna be beautiful.
We're gonna make like we were sointentional.

(38:33):
That's the Rose Quartz. That's the Rose quartz it.
It you, you went to another. Planet with the Rose quartz,
literally. Yeah.
Our sick. We it's so beautiful, though it
it wasn't even like it's not like phallic looking.
It's gorgeous. It's a it's a stone.

(38:54):
I might. Need this then like 'cause I
need to work out my trauma. Can you show the?
Stone, you really want me to go get it?
Yes, I'll be. Right back.
One moment. Please, ladies and gentlemen, or
ladies and ladies, Oh my gosh, it's.
So. Beautiful and it's.

(39:14):
Cold and it's like it's like rock.
Do you like put it in the? Freezer or I don't even have to,
it just is. You don't have to.
It's. Cold, naturally.
It's a gorgeous stone that's. So 'cause my my.
Cousin in Brooklyn is like during this podcast, you're
gonna have to tell me when it airs.

(39:35):
And I'm like mortified now for abit of this.
So OK. Sorry cousin in.
Brooklyn, My apologies this beautiful.
Box. OK, it's little.
This isn't scaring me. It's not.
It's not scary. OK, I'm.
Going back to the pleasure chest, let's go.

(39:56):
It's not it's not scary at. All so.
I was so little. This is so great.
It's just a piece of rough sports.
I love. It I love it.
That is amazing. OK.
So essentially you just like take care of each other one at a

(40:18):
time ceremonially? Sure.
Yes. Love it, love.
It so I am sure that by now you've listened to the podcast
like and Rena knows from the last retreat obviously won't
share other people's trauma, butI learned I'm not alone.

(40:39):
I'm not like the only lesbian who doesn't like penetration.
And so I know that that's going to come from internal healing
like without a partner. I need to like try certain
things. So yeah, maybe something like
that that's like really little would be a great place to start
and there's like so. Much symbolism in it to me.

(41:02):
It wasn't just like you. Know it was it was more.
So like the stone itself, the meaning behind the Rose quartz
and then using it in the way we did, it wasn't, it was just
beautiful. Like to me it was.
And so yeah, no, I agree. Rose Quartz.
Is like opening your heart, but you're also like opening your

(41:25):
sacral chakra. There's been so many things
that, I mean, I believe the bodykeeps the score.
So I never had low back pain in my life.
And then I've been going throughsome things that go back to like
certain roots, which I will probably share with you guys at
the retreat. But like the lower back pain's
been there ever since then. And even like random, like UTI

(41:48):
pain, I don't have a UTI. Like there's nothing.
I've tested my pee, all the things gone to the gynecologist,
like random things that have to do with the sacral chakra.
And I know it's because of the energy that still exists that I
need to work through and heal. So that's what I'm working on.
That's my personal thing right now.
I'm glad that you guys got to work through this together.

(42:09):
I think it's so important. It's one of my biggest points
that I share with everybody, even just my audience online, is
aligning values is so important.For instance, I think it would
be really challenging for someone who's extremely
spiritual to be with someone who's atheist.

(42:29):
Nothing wrong with being atheist, right?
Or having a really religious rigid religious belief.
But if you do, then finding someone who's going to align
with that because I cannot, I don't know you yet as well as I
know Rayna Laurie. But what I know about her is
like she needs someone to be able to match this level of

(42:52):
spiritual openness and curiosity.
And it sounds like she's met her, matching her.
That makes me so happy, a spiritual.
Person. I'm not a religious person, but
opening up conversations with Rayna, I'm like, yeah, let's
talk about crystals, let's talk about cards.
You know, I got her a couple cards.
Decks, thorough decks. Yay.

(43:15):
I know I'm like pull your. Card, let's clear your energy.
Let's set an intention and she'sdoing it all.
And I'm like, Oh my God. No.
One's ever been like, I usually don't because they don't
understand it. Where she's open to receiving it
and I'm like, I know you've got a spiritual side, 'cause she
sees things and hears things. I'm like, there's your, there's
your, there's your clue I'm. Always reminding her.

(43:39):
Oh, Reyna will. Find it everywhere like me, like
side from the universe. What are you thinking right now?
What? What is that animal right there?
And like, what are you thinking?And then she looks it up and
tells me what it means. Yes.
One of the little quirks. Oh, my gosh.
OK. What advice would you give to

(44:00):
somebody? I'll start with Rayna,
specifically this question because I know that it took a
lot of healing for you because your last relationship was
actually like a divorce. So what?
When did you feel like, OK, I'm actually ready to open my heart
again? What cues in your life made you

(44:22):
feel like you were whole enough to be able to really be open to
somebody again? Because some people think I'll
never be ready. So what was it for you?
So Claus, I am still married, however I've been separated
almost two years and. Back in.

(44:46):
May when Lori and I kind of reconnected ish and it was just
casual at this point. I had a dinner planned with my
ex. We were going to go talk about
things specifically the future. We went to dinner.
The conversation did not go as Ithought it would.
It went down to my ex wants to start dating, my ex wants to

(45:06):
divorce. She's not feeling it anymore and
this was like in May, so I, I didn't.
Know what steps to take? Right.
I was like wanting my family back, wanting whatever I had
back, like conforming, but I knew my universe was screaming
at me to take the next step, to go the next opportunity.

(45:31):
Whatever to. Heal to get over that everyone
was telling me every sign was there every, you know, personal
and internally was telling me move on and I finally did.
I, I accepted the downfall. I grieved the the relationship I
healed. I said my, you know my.

(45:51):
Sorries or whatnot. And I finally felt ready to be
able to say I can. I can now date.
I'm not going to be doing. Wrong under my vows.
And I had the conversation with her and and I said I released
you and I ended it and I grievedyou and I accepted and I'm ready
and I hear you. And up 3 weeks later maybe

(46:13):
Laurie and I were back. Sounds amazing and I think
people. Might be like, whoa, that's so
fast, but let's recap. You had a like children with
this person and you were going through separation for so long.
I guess it was a long drawn out thing and you needed that like
final moment to be ready to date.

(46:34):
Yes, I did. Because I had been told for two
years you can date if you need to go out.
I hope you meet someone new. I'm not worried about it.
And I never was there. I was like, I'm not, I don't
want to move on, you know? And then finally I was like, she
straight up told me she does notwant to be with me and she wants
to start dating new. Now I can finally be ready to
also open up my heart. Let me ask Lori if your past

(47:02):
self, the one who is feeling like unsure about dating again.
I'm so good about everything that's going on, like I built a
peaceful life. I'm feeling stuck.
Maybe I'm stuck on apps. Maybe I'm not even on the apps.
Could. See you now.
What would that past version sayto you?

(47:29):
I was never an app. Girl, I never I mean I've done
it, but I was like unsuccessful.I was like, this is not for me.
My past self. I was always.
I guess I was looking for the wrong.
Type of I wasn't looking the wrong type of people found me.

(47:51):
I was married in my 20s from thetime I was 22 to 29 and after
that got back together with an ex from when I was 19.
Just, you know, back and forth. And then there was a period of
time where I was single, like I was single.

(48:13):
And then these women just started finding me.
And these were the wrong type ofwomen.
These were women that were questioning their sexuality and
you know. After my last relationship.
Ended And I thought, you know, Ihave to stop entertaining these
these types of women because it's just not healthy.

(48:35):
I've been out since I was in high school.
God, it's over 30 years now. You look so.
Young, 48. But I was.
Like there, there has to be. Something better and I found
your your QCC on Instagram just scrolling one day and I've been

(48:57):
following you for a while beforeI decided to actually join.
But my my previous self, you know, like I settled.
It settled a lot I. I went to something that felt
familiar and. It didn't get me the happiness.
Where I am now so my. Past self like I should.

(49:21):
Have I know what? I want in a partner.
You know, I know what I want, I know what I deserve, and I
wasn't getting what I deserve from these past relationships
and. Take that leap like.
My my younger self would have never taken the leap I my self
esteem was at a low for a long time and it's only been within

(49:45):
the past. I don't know, past year.
That my self esteem has been growing and I'm like, you know
what? Fuck this.
I know who I am and I know what I deserve and someone has to be
out there for me. I'm not finding her in Los
Angeles. You know, I've try.
There's no. And then this beautiful girl

(50:07):
shows up. You know, I, I took a leap to
join your platform and I was like, OK, let's, let's give this
a go and let's see what happens.And it worked.
I. I.
Just I don't know. I don't know if that I
completely went off topic. No, it's perfect.
Like that just warms my heart. I'm so happy.

(50:28):
Like I can't wait to see you guys in person 'cause now
they're like, we're filming. Might be a lot of us in.
Person. Yes.
You'll see a lot of us in person.
Yeah, but y'all might be like just.
Like in your room, you know? I'm pretty sure using.
That Rose Quartz out in public is a It's a cry we.

(50:53):
We have already like we've already talked about because
Lori has more male friends and isn't like the best around
female lesbians for that and I'm.
Like and. I already know like what the
experience could be like becauseof what we experienced last
time. There's some strong personality,
there's different of opinions. There's a round table where

(51:14):
someone might talk really loud and you're in a shared space.
Yeah, it gets. It gets, like real, real.
Yeah. This is a whole new experience.
For me, like, all of my friends are like, wait, you're going on
a lesbian retreat? You're going with a group of
women. Oh yeah, And it goes deep.
It's not like a party, it's likea yeah, virtual.

(51:35):
Journey. Yeah, it's a.
Journey I don't have. A lot of female friends.
Yeah, my circle. Is gay.
Men and drag Queens, that's it. I love that for you.
And honestly, yeah, until I had Queer Country Club, I didn't
have queer community either because how I was trained to

(51:59):
believe about women was they weren't trustworthy.
Like just as a woman, that's what I heard so much, especially
from my own mom, God bless her. Like she was always like, I
never had friends. You shouldn't have friends.
You should work by yourself. You should be an entrepreneur.
Don't even try to do something in a team.
You'll always be let down. And I didn't realize that those

(52:21):
had actually penetrated my heart, like in a way that I
couldn't even recognize. And I wasn't really open.
Like, I would be like, Oh yeah, I'm open to community.
I'd go hang out with a friend's friend, never make an attempt to
build a relationship with that person after.
And I, I mean, obviously I can'tbuild like super deep
relationships with every single person after the retreat.

(52:41):
But on the retreat, I'm fully fucking present and like going
deep with every single person insuch an expedited way.
It's like, have we known each other for 10 years or two hours?
It's it. It goes, yeah.
So get ready. I will tell you it's intense.
But as described by Grace, one of the last attendees, it's like

(53:05):
a dinner party that you can stepin and out of and go do
activities. And of course, now with Raina,
you you 2 can just go do whatever you want on the
property, your activities. Yeah.
So yeah, I'm more excited. I'm excited we're.

(53:28):
Going to be there what are like 11/10/30 at 11.
Awesome, I can't wait. I can't wait.
You'll be the first people I hugat lunch, I know.
I think my flight. Lands at like 1005 OK.
Perfect. Well, I I try to get to lunch as
early as 11:30 and then it officially commences at 12.

(53:50):
So if I get to hang out with youguys before, that would be
awesome, Yes. Yes.
Well, thank you all for. Being here, thank you for
sharing your story. I cannot wait to hang out with
you. I cannot wait to see your energy
together in real life. She's going to be.
Showing, Yeah. Showing people.
What's? Up.

(54:11):
She's taller than me. Really.
How? Tall are you, Lori?
57. No, I'm not 5/8.
I love it I. I'm only 5-6 and a half.
I've always wanted to be 5/8. I was like I could have modeled
if I was 5/8 and maybe 5-7. I don't know, depends on the

(54:33):
shoes. They're like shoes.
Wait, that's another thing like.Reyna gives like tomboy but like
sporty. Spice.
Hybrid. Hippie babuji.
Hybrid, Yeah. What's your vibe?
This is not my normal. Vibe.
She is like LA. Jew, rich money there's none of.

(55:00):
That. I mean, who I That's what I knew
when I washed my hands with Gucci soap.
I was like, Yep. She's all.
Dior. I mean everything.
Everything. All the vintage Tiffany's the
She's a putzi. Gather Bougie.
Bitch. But I don't.
I don't. Look, I I'm not wearing

(55:21):
anything. I'm not that person.
I usually have a backwards baseball cap on and my hair is
in a ponytail and I'm wearing, you know, and you'll see how
sexy. She looks just.
I'm serious. I'm like.
Oh my God, whatever it is the energy is, it's perfect for each
other. Totally there and we married

(55:42):
like. Soul mates.
But we don't know what else we, we don't know what else there
is. But we think, I think we're soul
mates. I see.
Oh, she's yen. She's.
Yen, and I mean you were watching.
The podcast you would see Lori just covered her eyes.
She's like, I blush all the time.

(56:05):
So sweet. Well, I think this will go down
as one of the like QCC sayings. If you know, you're now, you're
like, I knew when I was washing my hands with Gucci soap, like.
I think it's just going to be over.
Think if you've listened to thispodcast DMS, like obviously
you've seen me tag Granny 'causeshe's like, I knew when I was
washing my hands with Gucci soap.

(56:25):
It's like the code that you listen to the show and you're
just vibing. And thank you ladies for being
here. Thank you for sharing your love
story. I wanted to share for you're
welcome for for you guys for being here today.
I want to buy you a dinner. So after this, I'm going to send
y'all a little visa gift card for a date night.

(56:46):
And for anyone else who's in Queer Country Club, who's found
love through me putting you together where it was not
whether it was matching the retreats or Queer Country Club,
I would love to buy you dinner. If you Share your story, I would
love. And obviously you guys don't
have to do like you go to dinnerand you can literally never
share anything. But if you share it, I'll tag

(57:08):
you. And like I just, it's all about
sharing. I know.
It's so cute sharing the. Story I know like she's.
So proud, like it makes my hearthappy.
It's like. Like.
You know, like that person. 'S like all about you when
they're so open, like they're they're not leaving any room for

(57:30):
someone to wedge. And you know what I mean?
Like that's I don't know, that'sjust a vibe I get all in.
Thank you all for being all in on each other.
Thank you for showing the world what's possible.
And I will see you and Canyon Ranch in two days.
Goodbye, ladies. Bye you guys.
Bye.
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