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Can your heart keep up with the digital nomad life?

Our queer guest, Yvonne Wilson, has experienced a transformation that is nothing short of inspiring.

In 2018, she hit rock bottom—binge drinking, drowning in debt, and renting rooms in strangers’ homes—but by 2019 she reinvented her life with the help of a money coach.

After paying off 15k in collections and embracing the digital nomad lifestyle, Yvonne now travels the world and empowers others as a Certified Financial Educator. Her journey of financial and emotional rebirth is wild!

 

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Hey lesbians, how does the heartkeep up with the digital nomad
life? Can it does it?
Welcome back to Queer women Rising where iPhone my lesbian
friends and we talk about lesbian love, dodging the dating
drama and embracing the peacefulconnections with our self, with

(00:21):
God, with our relationships thatwe have in our life.
Today is special. We're talking about our
relationships as we travel, our relationships in the future, our
dream relationships, and our relationship with abundance and
our ability to create it. Just a little update before we

(00:41):
get started. I'm coming off the heels of the
Queer Country Club retreat and Iam just in awe of all the love
that was shared. I thought there were no love
connections made, just maybe some beautiful forever
sisterhood connections. But I just got a DM and we have
a love connection. Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and

(01:01):
gentlemen, no gentlemen, ladies and ladies, ladies and days and
the gays. We have a love connection.
My heart is so happy. Yesterday actually I got another
DM so it was 2 couples and one day that I got a notification
saying that we have helped them find love inside of the Queer
Country Club. My little lesbian matchmaker

(01:22):
heart is so happy. And beyond that, last night was
our Queer Country Club meet up. It was different.
I did live coaching. We wrote a letter to our future
wife telling her what our day islike together and what we love
about her. And scripting.

(01:42):
Truly using one of the most powerful manifestation
techniques out there, Scripting feeling at all, connecting with
other growth minded women aroundthe world in the Zoom room and
then doing soulful conscious speed dating.
It was so cool. After my VIP lesbians.

(02:03):
These are the lesbians who come to the after party.
It's like a private after party.So like for instance, yesterday
we had I think 90 RSVPS for the event, but the after party only
has like usually three to six other lesbians inside.
And that's where you can do one day with me, talk to each other
and get some more intimate groupcoaching.

(02:25):
It was powerful. Everyone in that room was
talking about their spiritual connection and it was weird.
We all had some religious traumaand we were just discussing that
and affirming each other and howhow much effort we're putting
into building our relationships with God, the divine source
universe as queer women, becausewe've literally been told that

(02:48):
we can't or that it's harder. And I just want to encourage
anyone who's listening to this, anyone who wasn't in that
private VIP room with me last night, I feel called to share.
Your connection to God is not dependent on what anyone else
says about you. Your connection to the divine
has nothing to do with anyone else.

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You are worthy of that connection.
God made you gay. You're not worthy of that
connection in spite of being gay.
You are celebrated as you are. You are beautiful and created as
you are. And I want to tell you that if
you have pursued a relationship with the divine after religious

(03:32):
trauma, after deconstructing, after going through horrific
things, like one woman last night shared her own mother got
her fired when she found out shewas gay because her mother just
thought that it was a sin and itwas horrible, Her mother got her
fired from her career. How do you forgive something
like that? Only through the love of God.

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Only through the love of God could someone ever forgive
something that horrific. I want to applaud you if you
have continued to pursue connection to the divine after
being told you can't. And I pray that this podcast
that shows you queer women rising around the world just

(04:15):
proves to you that there is love.
There's an abundance of love. There's an abundance of
connection. There's an abundance of
beautiful women. There's an abundance of
community. There's an abundance of support,
guidance. Whatever you need, the divine
has it for you. And you are not forgotten, you
are not forsaken, and you are soloved by all that is good, by

(04:36):
the purest light, by God. OK, let's get into a little bit
about my guest. Today I'm going to read her
little bio. Our queer guest Yvonne Wilson
has experienced the transformation that is nothing
short of inspiring. In 2018 she hit rock bottom,
binge drinking, drowning in debt, renting rooms and

(04:57):
strangers homes. But by 2019 she reinvented her
life with the help of a money coach.
And after paying off over 15,000in collections and embracing the
digital nomad lifestyle, Yvonne now travels the world and
empowers others as a certified Financial Educator.
Her journey of financial and emotional rebirth is truly wild.

(05:18):
Welcome to the show, Yvonne Wilson.
How are you doing today? Hello, I'm doing so good.
I'm so excited to be here and tohave this juicy conversation
with you. I know right before we started
you were telling me about your morning routine.
What's the boundaries you set? Because as queer women who are
building businesses or have big dreams, have big goals, big

(05:39):
creative projects, we can get caught up in the passion and not
start the day right. I'm guilty of that.
How do you start the day right? Yes, and I used to be there too.
I totally understand. It's really just a matter of
having that discipline to to have the practice to set the
boundary and soon enough it becomes a ritual and just a part

(06:01):
of your daily routine. So I kind of touched on how I
set the boundary with looking atmy phone and responding to even
family members, even my partnersat the time or my team and
clients. And So what I do is I make sure
that I have a full morning routine, meaning getting up,
having gratitude, shaking it outa little bit, getting some

(06:22):
movement, fully dressed, have breakfast, and then pick up my
phone. And that's something that I've
practiced, I would say for probably 2 years and it's been
very successful and it's allowedme to make space and time for me
and being fully present and responsive to everyone that
needs my attention. Yes, yes, I think that is

(06:45):
something that I can get so muchbetter at is being presents,
whether it's with my grandma or it's with my team or it's with a
client, I'm always present. But just setting aside proper
time for different things, different time blocks, that's
always worked for me rather thanjust a random To Do List with no

(07:07):
time on it. But what we can all get better
at is scheduling that for you time, because sometimes we
forget that part. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I think time blocking has definitely helped me too.
And I think some people prefer to live and flow, but I find
that with the structure it it, you get more done and you're

(07:28):
more likely to just like, OK, let's get to work.
And then the rest of the day as a nomad, I can go for a walk and
go to an event. And so I like to take care of
what I have to do meetings and everything like the first half
of my day, so that I can enjoy the rest.
That's amazing. How many hours a day do you
work? I would say, I mean, of course

(07:49):
this is going to vary right, with between launches going
live, but I would say probably like 4 hours, four hours or less
unless it's a busy season. Oh my gosh, I'm jealous.
That sounds amazing. How often do you?
Work. We should not answer that.

(08:10):
It's not that inspiring. Well, I got to a place in my
business where I didn't have to work that much.
Like it was like things are in flow and I had the profitable
personal brand coaching program.And I'm at a time in my life
where I'm ready to retire from social media coaching as one of
my main services. Like if someone reaches out to
me and wants a private consultation, yes, I will take

(08:33):
that. But I had a program where I was
only having to work like 4 hoursa day as well, maybe even less
if I was on a trip or something.But growing the Queer Country
Club has required 14 hour days sometimes and many times.
Realistically, like 8 hour days every single day.

(08:55):
So yeah, yeah, every single day.That's weekends included.
So. Oh.
My goodness. Yeah, yeah.
So I'm grateful, though I wouldn't change it for the
world. And I really want the client
experience to be good. And at this point we're like
gonna be cusping 1000 members. So managing that many clients is

(09:16):
a lot of work. And I want everyone to be happy
and having that great experienceand making sure that AI is on
point, even though I'm not the one directly doing that, like
just overseeing it. And the DMS that come in can be
intense. So, yeah, yeah.
Wow, you have a full plate. It just, it just shows the

(09:37):
amount of integrity and dedication that you have for
your work, your brand and the movement that you're, you know,
impacting thousands of women. It's so inspiring.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
And what you're doing is also inspiring because you're showing
people what's possible for you with less.
And it's so true. Like there's two different ways

(09:59):
to do business. You can absolutely structure
your life where you work so much, lots of makes so much
more. And in business coaching world,
Oh, I was, I was just hitting that mark.
But then, you know, I got the itch, the entrepreneur itch to
do something a little different as we do so.
But it's amazing. And you having the secret to not

(10:21):
only and we can get into this later, but the fact that like
you show people how to manage their money so they can work
less and say more like that is that is what it is all about.
OK. But before we get into it all, I
put the L in L GB TQI want to know.
I always ask my guests, how do you identify?
Yes, so I love this question because I think it's such a it's

(10:45):
such a like bold question to askme being such a like Unicorn and
like kind of, you know, non binary and I'm so fluid and open
to experiences and people and just life that romantically I
want to marry a woman. However, I do really enjoy being

(11:07):
handled and although I won't won't do everything physically
with a man, I do prefer to be submissive at times rather than
being dominant all the time. Never thought this in a million.
Years. So, so there's there's a I'm
very, I do have high standards, so it's not like I'm willing to

(11:29):
be intimate with, you know, all of the male genders, but I
definitely am attracted to them.It's just there's there's really
strong boundaries with what I'm willing to do and what I'm
willing to receive. Interesting, I love this for
you. That is the most unique answer
and like just based on appearance alone I thought you'd

(11:53):
be like, I am a solid lesbian, End of story.
Yeah, yeah, most people assume, but I'm actually, I identify as
pansexual, so I'm actually even romantically or sexually
attracted to trans people and I've been intimate with them as
well. But at the end of the day, I do
want to marry a woman and I do feel most aligned and compatible

(12:16):
with that so. I love it and I, I will say I've
been attracted to trans women aswell.
Like I, we have some really beautiful trans women in queer
Country Club. Most of our clients are Gold
Star lesbians, cold blooded lesbians, you know what I mean?
But we have trans women who are lesbians who are absolutely

(12:39):
stunning. And I mean stunning.
Knock your socks off, gorgeous. So yeah, I yeah, I have a very
happy heart when I say I have attracted to trans women.
But as. You should.
Yes, yes, as I should. But I love hearing this.

(13:01):
I think it's a, a conversation that can be really, really
taboo. And like, I get that everyone
can have their preferences, but I don't even think I hear many
people say so. I know people would be nervous
to say I'm not attracted to trans people, but I don't even
hear people say it. I haven't even said I don't

(13:23):
think. I think this is the first time I
say like, I am attracted to trans women.
And so it was really beautiful to hear you say that as well.
Yeah, yeah, that's so true. It's it's not commonly just
discussed or people are even afraid of the judgement of what
comes with that. And though where I could

(13:45):
identify as bisexual, I'm so I recognize our community as a
whole and it's like that's not possible because they are a part
of our group and they should notbe left out ever.
Yeah, 100% ever. And especially with what's going
on in the world right now, it's very important to stand with all

(14:06):
of our siblings, all of our community.
Thank you for sharing it. Yeah, I think, I think people, I
don't know, maybe maybe you relate.
I'm attracted obviously to the feminine body, but I'm attracted
to feminine energy. And so it sounds like what you
were just sharing is you're sometimes attracted to masculine

(14:27):
energy as well. So that's.
Cool. Yeah, Yeah.
I think having a little bit of both is, is not necessarily like
some people would perceive this as like selfish or you don't
know what you actually want. But when in reality it's like, I
know exactly what I want and that's why I'm open to these

(14:48):
things and these experiences andthese people.
And I know exactly what I want them to do to me and what I want
to do to them. So it's it's really just a
matter of like how well do you know yourself and how confident
and secure are you with that? I love it.
At what age did you realize like, OK, I'm not straight.

(15:10):
I think I want to say I was around either 10 or 11 when I
was really like, OK, there's something going on here.
I mean, here's here's my story. Like really quickly.
Did you watch or do you rememberwhen Transformers came out?
Like the first ever Transformers?
I remember, but I was like a Barbie Princess girl so I

(15:31):
didn't. OK, I was kind of a tomboy, but
I was, I remember watching MeganFox walk around the car and I
was like, OK, there's there's noway I didn't just like overheat
and nervous sweat for no reason.Yes, well, it is Megan Fox, so
that I know that I can picture. Yeah.

(15:52):
Yeah. So she was your queer awakening?
Pretty much. OK.
And then from there, I usually go into some religious trauma
too on this podcast because I'm from the South, was raised
Christian, homeschooled, come out gay, all the things was
married to a man. Were your parents chill with
this? Was that something you didn't
even bring up to them? Like what was that like coming

(16:15):
out? They were actually very
accepting. So I was, yeah, I was actually
adopted at a young age. So this wasn't even my
biological family. And I think because I was so
like, I'm, I'm such an athlete. Like I was always in sports.
I was, I had an older brother sowe were always watching WWE, so

(16:37):
wrestling, watching sports and Iwas interested, but I wasn't
like, you know, like super dedicated and I get too deep,
but I was open to it and I really enjoyed that kind of like
interaction with my brother. So I think for me, kind of like
my mom always wanted to put me in dresses and I would just be

(16:57):
like, I don't, I just don't wantto wear that.
Like, I just don't. And I would, and that would be
OK. But it just was a part of me.
I just didn't feel like aligned.And they were, there were subtle
hints where they would. My mom would, like, pull out a
magazine with a woman and asked me if I thought that she was
attractive. And I'd say yeah.
And then she'd she'd like, open it to a man and she'd ask me if

(17:21):
I thought that the man was attractive.
And I'd say, yeah, he's OK. Like it was just like, like,
kind of like whatever. And so, yeah, I remember her
telling me. She, she told me, honey, you
know, it doesn't matter who you love, who you end up with, we
accept you. We love you for whoever you are.
And that is really special. That is so special, so I'm

(17:43):
assuming you still have a great relationship with your parents.
Yes, we we do. It is healthy.
It's not something that was verydifficult.
However, because I'm adopted, there are some nuances to that.
Of course. There's it just there's, there
needs more, more depth, more connection.
It's a total different topic. But yeah, I definitely was

(18:05):
accepted and it was easy for me to say, hey, mom, I I think I
like girls and I think I was 12 when that had happened.
That makes me so happy. Like, it's not a story I hear
often on the podcast. Honestly.
That's beautiful. Yeah.
I feel like everyone has their struggles, and you may have had

(18:25):
it with other people or other places in life, but to know that
you got that acceptance, like, Idon't know what my life would be
like. Obviously, I believe everything
happens for a reason. If you're listening to this in
your late life, like everything happens for a reason right here,
right now on the map the universe wants you to be.
But where would you be if you would have grown up fully

(18:47):
accepting yourself like that andlike understanding, just
understanding yourself? I think that's really
interesting. Like you said, I think people
say, but this is like you're confused or whatever, but I
actually like understand myself really well and what I want from
somebody. So, you know, you want to end up
marrying a woman. So let's go there.

(19:08):
Do you really want to get married or are you looking for
like partnership without marriage?
What does that look like for you?
Like what's the dream? Ideal life for Yvonne.
I believe in marriage. I believe in getting having
someone for the long term for them to be a partner and to
build a beautiful life with. And I think that it's a

(19:31):
beautiful thing whether there's a prenup or not.
I think that it's just somethingthat, you know, I, I really
want, I want to dedicate my lifeto someone and to be all in
because that there's nothing like that kind of feeling.
Yeah, I really want that, like alook at my little sisters who
have been married since really young and like, they share bank

(19:54):
accounts with their partner and like, have No Fear.
And I'm like, oh, my ex drained my savings to pay his back
taxes. So like, I have some money
trauma. I'm like, I'm very like, hold it
close. Yeah, As the money maestro,
would you say to get a prenup? Like what's your thoughts around
that? This, this is really like a

(20:15):
personal preference because, youknow, for me it's a matter of
OK, and do I think that this person and do I believe that
they're trustworthy to, to buildthis beautiful life and to not
do me dirty? Really.
Like, it's like, it's like betting on yourself and the
other person. So I've joked about it to like

(20:38):
past partners, like, hey, you know, I'm going to be pretty
successful. I just, you know, would it be OK
if like, are you open to this? And they have, she's joked in
the past like, fuck no, if you're going to make me do that,
we're not doing this. And it was funny at the time,
but yeah, I just, for me personally, I think for my
person, I wouldn't want to have the prenup.

(20:59):
But this is something that if you feel that you've been
through something in the past, you're worried about it
happening again, and you just want to protect yourself, then
go for it. And if your partner does not
respect that, then that's on them, you know?
Yeah, it is. And you're right, it's different
for everyone. It's a personal preference.

(21:20):
This is funny. This topic came up in the last
podcast too, which is hilarious because like you said the word
like, let's go there. I kind of want everyone's
opinion on a prenup now. But for me, I think it's really
different because I tend to datepeople who are older.
Plus I'm building a big businessfor myself, but they're like
already beyond established. So for them to feel a sense of

(21:41):
safety, I think it's like on my part to be like, hey, like I
totally expect a prenup. Plus, back whenever I was dating
the last boyfriend I had, that'swhere that whole conversation
started because I perceived him as extremely successful, whether
or not that was reality, I perceived him as extremely

(22:03):
successful. And I told him, like, I fully
expect a prenup. Like, you've been married before
and that went bad. Like, don't you not want to go
through that kind of hell again?And I remember him looking at me
like very seriously. And I thought he was going to be
like, duh, bitch, you know? But instead he was like, I won't
marry you if I think I need a prenup.

(22:24):
So to him, it was like this sacred, like, doesn't matter.
Maybe there was not so much to protect.
I didn't know. But like that in my head was
like, whoa, like kind of like what you said, like I, you know,
maybe maybe I'm betting on this with you.
But I think at this stage of my life and after what I've been

(22:46):
through with heartbreak, it's like a nuance.
I'm open to love, I want to receive love, but I don't want
to be stupid because I'm workingso hard to build something.
Of course, of course. So using discernment, you know,
really taking into account for that person and like, what are
their morals and values? Because if they align with you,

(23:07):
it's, it's really not necessary.And that's why I say like for
me, it's probably not going to be necessary.
And even if we do divorce and wesplit, then I would happily
support them. Like it's not even something
where I would resent anything. Yeah, yeah.
No, that's that is true. Like I can't imagine.
I literally can't imagine what that past partner did to me.

(23:32):
Like just being like, Oh yeah, Iaccess your bank account.
So let me just like, what? So that.
Yeah, I it's going to come down to will I ever feel that full
trust? And maybe you shouldn't even be
getting married if you don't feel that full trust.
Otherwise you just don't even bewith that person.

(23:54):
Interesting. I guess I'm just not there quite
yet. And when you meet the person you
know, you know, and you feel that safety and how transparent
someone is with you, I've alwaysfelt like I'm the more
transparent one. Like I'll be like, hey, this is
like, let me pull open this account.
Let me show you this my credit score.
Like I whatever. Once I'm in a very serious

(24:16):
relationship, I've never had someone be as transparent with
me yet. OK.
I wish I would have made the ex-husband do that because that
I would have seen the credit score.
Yeah, yeah. I would say so, especially to be
at the considering marriage level.

(24:37):
I think that's that's very the money conversation is so
important. Which is it's hard conversations
because people don't like to talk about money in general,
which is why they get stuck and aren't able to budget, aren't
able to plan for the future. And that's where you come in and
help these lovely women. Can you tell me more about what

(24:58):
you do and what makes it different than like a financial
advisor? Yeah, of course.
So I am licensed to help you with your management.
So I can, I can tell you what toinvest in, how to budget, how
much you should have in savings,like all those basics.
But I, I realized that so much more.

(25:20):
There's so much more with the way that you approach your
situation. You talk about it, you
acknowledge it. And so when I was able to figure
out how to heal my relationship with money, I realized I used to
be a huge impulsive spender. I used to be super anxious
avoidant, like many of us very avoidant.

(25:41):
Like I don't want to talk about it.
I don't want to look. I wouldn't open any mail that I
got at my apartment. It's like it just was like, heck
no, you know, And so to understand how to actually move
forward from those kind of reactions and it just, you have
my nervous system like freezing and closing down.

(26:02):
It was, it's been a process and I realized that you know, 95% of
it is subconscious. It's your subconscious taking
over and the strategy is only 5%.
So when yes, I can help you withmore of the management, the
tactical logisticals, but it hasso much more to do with like
who, the energetics and the embodiment and your relationship

(26:25):
with money so that you actually have healthy money habits.
You're improving your situation and you're not just in a place
where you're making good money, but at the end of the month you
actually have no idea where it'sgoing.
Yes, very much needed in our world now.
This was not always the case foryou.
You are not always good at managing money.

(26:48):
Your life was not what it is today.
Can you take us back to your rock bottom moment and how you
climbed out? Because someone's listening who
needs some hope. I know that.
Yes, yes. OK, so this is this is such a
transformational journey becausefor me, although I had a middle

(27:08):
class upbringing, so my parents weren't super wealthy, but they
also weren't really struggling. And most of our subconscious
money beliefs come with our kindof like set in stone during our
childhood. And so my parents didn't
necessarily have the worst moneybeliefs, but they also never
taught me how money works. So they never taught me how to

(27:29):
actually budget. They never taught me how to use
a credit card. So I got in a lot of credit card
debt. I was financially independent by
18. I decided to move out and to
support myself because as an entrepreneur for me, I didn't
want to go to college. I I'm an artist.
So I actually applied to art schools in California.

(27:51):
I got accepted to a few, but my parents told me, hey, we totally
support you with what you want to do in your dreams, but we're
not going to pay for this. So figure it out.
And so it came down to, OK, am Igoing to be thousands in dollar
of dollars in debt or am I goingto just figure this out?
And of course, I decided to justfigure it out and kind of just

(28:15):
ride the wave and see where I ended up.
So what basically happened is I had to support myself really
young and I got a serving job, which led to a catering job,
which led to becoming a bartender.
And because of this, I was too social.

(28:36):
I was like getting to know everybody at work.
And then it was like super easy to go out and to drink and to
party. And then I started using drugs.
I became an addict. And this was the beginning of me
like spiraling because I don't know what the heck I was doing,
where I was going with live and I was it was taking control of

(28:57):
me and I could barely afford rent, let alone my food.
I was in a lot of toxic relationships and at some point
I was I did have suicidal intentions.
I was even prostituting, sleeping on the street like it
was. It was like rock bottom, the
furthest that you could get. And it didn't really, I didn't

(29:18):
really move out of this until I found myself on a freeway
overpass and I was telling myself, and I remember I'm a
huge Gaga fan. So all of my little monsters
listening, I'm, I'm, I'm with you.
I remember sitting on the freeway overpass and thinking,
Yvonne, you are meant for so much more.

(29:38):
And the song Mary the Night camethrough my head and I started
singing it out loud because if you're familiar with it, she
says, I'm going to marry the knight.
I won't give up on my life. I'm a warrior queen.
Live passionately tonight. So I had a moment of like, holy
crap. Like, what are you doing?
Like what is going on? This is a mess.

(30:01):
And of course I can talk about that now because I'm healed and
I've I've accomplished so much. So coming out of that, I really
like had a mirror in front of meand I was like, what, where do I
go from here? Like what, what happens next?
And so I made the decision of, OK, if I shouldn't work with

(30:21):
liquor, I should probably work with coffee.
And so I applied to. Starbucks.
Oh my gosh. We pause, though.
Pause. You say this so calmly, so
casually. You just poured your soul out
and like, wow, wow. Like you, you went from having

(30:42):
this life, like you said, it wasn't rich, it wasn't poor.
It was pretty darn great. And then just went down your own
path and you, you change everything because you're on an
overpass. Like how long did it take to go
from I'm 18 leaving to the the the cyclone of it leading up to

(31:06):
that night? Like how long?
Because it just sounds like you've been through so much.
Yeah, I was, I was 21 when it's,it was the worst because that's
when I became a bartender and I started just spiraling and I was
even having like episodes. So my mother is actually
schizophrenic and she, you know,like my biological mother.

(31:28):
And so I have very addictive traits because of my genes.
And so I was just in situations that you would be like holy
crowd, like, how are you here? Wow, my heart, I'm so glad
you're here. I'm so glad you didn't let those
thoughts win. You are strong in this.
This is just I, I didn't know because I've never seen a video

(31:49):
where you go that deep on socialmedia, but I'm sure your clients
getting to like, feel not only the empathy, but the wisdom that
has come from these situations is so powerful.
Yes, yes. Thank you so much for sharing.
OK, so you you have your turn around moment.

(32:09):
You Marry The Night. I can like hear the song in the
night air and you decide you're going to start working with
coffee, which was the the gayestthing to do by the way, so.
A little bit. And so, yeah, I mean, I'm not a
huge Starbucks fan, but once I Istarted working there, I was
like, Oh yeah, blonde shots all the way.

(32:31):
And it just was my happy place. And through applying there, I
actually met my next partner andwe decided to move in together
very quickly, which is very common.
But yeah, we were crazy about each other.
And at the time she was working or had just got a new job at

(32:53):
Disney. So we decided to move to
Anaheim, 10 minutes away from Disney.
And it was, it was magical. It was a dream come true because
I am also a huge Disney fan. Or Disney adult, if should we
say? Disney gay.
Totally. And so it was so cool to get in
for free after having passes forso many years and to live like

(33:16):
10 minutes away. And so, yeah, that had happened.
And then the transition of us living there was so beautiful.
But then COVID hit, right? So COVID hits and we were like,
holy shit. So it was like that weird time
where you don't know if you're going to get laid off or if
they're just going to tell you to come back in like a month.
It was so weird. It was so weird.

(33:38):
So thankfully it was tough, but we were able to support
ourselves and kind of like stay afloat financially and it was,
it was OK. However, the relationship
started getting pretty unhealthy.
Like I started gaining a lot of weight.
I gained like 100 lbs within like, I don't know, six months
probably like just being in my sweats and not really being as

(34:00):
active or dedicated to myself and my partner.
She also gained weight. It kind of like there's a lot of
insecurities that were coming upfor her.
So it just, it just got ugly, right?
You know, you know, what I talked about, we're just like,
OK, this is just not it anymore.Like the spark is kind of gone.
So it really came down to, are we going to sign another year or

(34:24):
are we going to part ways? And yeah, and both her and I
both knew that we were going to part ways.
So coming out of this like beautiful transition of like,
OK, I was able to sober up. I got a, a relationship, but now
I'm starting from scratch back to 0 because I had dedicated so
much of my energy, my time, I love and of course, my my hustle

(34:49):
in the span of the COVID years, right, Living by Anaheim.
And that was around the time that I actually met my money
coach. It was.
Yeah. And it was like, kind of like
the birthing of my business. And I didn't really know what it
would be or what that meant. I just knew that I'm a I'm a
dreamer. Like I have a huge vision.
And, and I knew that I wanted to, to inspire others to dream

(35:14):
big. And now I can show them how to
make it possible, Right. So it's like I saw the value in
the work itself for helping me, but also in helping others.
Wow, were you hustling Starbuckswhile you were building your
business? Like what did that look like?
It was, I think that was like right before, it was right

(35:34):
before I had learned about the How Money Works brand and became
a part of Wealthwave. It was, it was just it, yeah, it
was just right before. And then I got I got a remote
job. So during COVID, we actually
were working remote. I think, I think my partner was
working HR in the office, but I was working remote.
So at the time when we did split, I was getting pretty

(36:00):
decent pay for having no collegedegree.
You know, it's only some customer service and sales
experience. And So what I did really was
like, OK, I'm going to put a plan together to get my own
apartment because at that time, I think by then I think I was
23. And for context, I'm 28, right?
So this was only like 5 years ago.
And so I remember like being so excited to have my own place.

(36:25):
But if you're from California, you know that it's really hard
to to qualify because you have to make either two to three
times the rent and then your credit score has to be really
good. So what I did have for me, even
though I didn't have my savings,my credit score was really good.
And so I was like, cool, yeah, Iwas like, cool, All I need to do

(36:46):
is have my savings, right? I need a buffer for whatever may
happen. And I think within two or three
months, I was able to qualify for my first apartment.
And I moved in, and I was so excited.
It was such an accomplishment. But then I found myself in
lifestyle inflation. And next thing I knew I was like
all I was living paycheck to paycheck behind my screen,

(37:09):
working remote, trying to build my business.
And it was just so exhausting and just life sucking.
And I just, I just, I'm, I love adventure, I love being social.
So I just thrive off of, you know, expression and connection.
And so and that is what really initiated me to want to become a

(37:32):
nomad is that that freedom to travel, to make my own schedule
and to actually, like, live lifebecause.
Yeah, yeah. Like working from home all day
is exhausting. And it's.
Yeah, it's. And I know you know.
I know. Oh man.
Yeah. And it's, you know, traveling

(37:52):
can be a little like, hectic as well.
Like, there's two sides of the coin.
But it's also so exhilarating. And it's so like, you get to
learn a new language. You're always meeting new
people. And there's just moments that
you can't rewind, right? It's like there's so, so much
changing and that sometimes I love the stability, but I also

(38:17):
love just the freedom of like, Oh my God, I get to go walk down
the same St. and look at some different art or see, you know
what I mean? Try the next smoothie shop.
Like I love doing spontaneous things.
So it just, it just fuels me andit makes me feel like I'm
living. Yeah, I totally get that.
If I don't go on a trip like every eight weeks, I like lose

(38:39):
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I am, I am. I've been, I started in Costa
Rica last year. I was like, you know what, my
business mentor, she bought a home in Costa Rica.
There's a lot of people in this group that are going there.
There's got to be a reason why. Like it just kept just popping
up and I was like, OK, I feel called to go there.
So I started there and then I made my way to Nicaragua and

(41:32):
then I came to Mexico and I planto keep travelling, but I have
there's just so much community that I didn't know I needed here
in Tulum that is like nothing else.
Like it's like these people haveyour back.
They're so understanding, compassionate.
And that aside from the good food, of course, the beautiful

(41:56):
beaches, the weather, like it's,it's so it's so amazing here.
And I think that, you know, as Itravel, I'm not the person to
really navigate in like a tourist segue.
I really like to like, get to know the city and the people.
Yeah. So it's, it's like I got to know
this town and connect with the entrepreneurs here.

(42:17):
And it's just like, they are some of the coolest freaking
people I've ever met. And it, and it's like it's, it
just feels so good to feel so seen and so understood.
I've heard that the entrepreneurscene there is just amazing,
like everybody's digital nomad in Tulum and the vibes are high.

(42:37):
I did like a cacao ceremony there a year ago or a year and a
half ago I went on like this first date.
I do this, I go on 1st dates, I fly to meet girls on 1st dates
and. No judgement.
Yeah, so we met in Mexico. I was like, let's just do a
trip. And yeah, we went to Tulum for a

(42:59):
day. I think we stayed in another
area, I can't remember the name of it, but somewhere basic, you
know, where all the white peoplego.
But we ended up in Slim for a day because she was like you've
got to experience Tulum. And now I'm like I don't want to
go back to Mexico unless I stay in Tulum.
Like it was just so magical. I walked up on this cacao
ceremony and like I was so meantto be there.

(43:22):
This like little old man was like I don't know just told me
everything I needed to know about my life.
Made me realize like I was not healed enough to be on this day
because I was still hung up withall my ex-girlfriend.
I ended up crying my eyes out atthat cacao ceremony.
That poor girl was just like what the is going on right now.
She's not healed. But we ended up having an
amazing dinner and like the guy who owned the hotel, like he was

(43:45):
obsessed with the art and the live music inside and like he
came and sat at our table and drank wine with us.
And it was just like, like you said, the community aspect was
just so strong and just that 24 hours that I was there that I
know if I go back, I would end up being friends with that owner
of the hotel and the guy who wasrunning and hit the girl that

(44:05):
was helping run the Casa morning.
Like we stayed in touch. Like, I don't know, it meant
something. It was just cool how special it
was. It's a special place.
So while you're there, do you stay in like 1 Airbnb or do you
kind of bounce around? Like what is that like?
Yeah. So as I've been traveling, I
actually stay in hostels. Are you familiar with those?

(44:29):
Yeah, yeah, I've heard of them. Like where there's multiple
people. Yeah, yeah, so some are 8 beds,
6 beds, 4 beds. But I will once I have, I've had
enough of, you know, people around and being super social.
I, I will get an Airbnb, say forlike a week, 2 weeks and then
I'm like, OK, it definitely addsup, especially in this beautiful

(44:51):
town. So I will go back to hostels and
kind of just, that's how I've been navigating.
I haven't actually got an apartment yet, but I'm actually
really considering that pretty soon.
That's awesome. Yeah, I know a girl.
She was actually on the podcast before.
Shout out to Jasmine B She's a femme lesbian in Tulum.

(45:12):
She has like, the most beautiful, I don't know what you
call it, Penthouse. I don't know.
Bougie Apt. I met her at Freedom Queen by
the way. I don't know if y'all know each
other but you should connect. But yeah, she's I.
Don't think so. It's like a very beautiful space
in Tulum and apparently it's notthat crazy to have a beautiful

(45:32):
space like like luxurious out ofyour mind, luxurious space in
Tulum, so. Prices range from like getting
them a nicer to like from like 1000 to maybe 2000 a month.
But I was paying close to 2000 for like a one bedroom in
California with like not nearly any of this, right so.

(45:53):
It's. It's so worth it.
Yeah, that sounds amazing. I didn't even realize that.
I was thinking like, OK, maybe it's 3000, but it's like, the
most luxurious in the world. But knowing, like, 2000's top
is, like, wild. And it makes sense why so many
people are going there. Our housing in America is
insane. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I hear all

(46:16):
about it and people wondering ifthey're ever going to be able to
afford a home someday. Yeah, I mean, with interest
rates, I don't know. I often tell my parents, my
grandparents, like our generation probably won't get to
own homes unless they just choose homes that are very,
very, very small, very, very much out of the city.

(46:37):
Like no modern conveniences or beauty, but what matters to me
is location above all. Like I love a nice space, but
location above all. Like I want to be able to walk
everywhere and like I live in a little community so that matters
to me. That does not matter to some
people at all. So yeah.

(46:58):
Yeah. And I think too, a lot of people
think that it's not possible when they're thinking in terms
of like saving for the first time when really they should be
investing for the first time. So if you're.
Someone more? That it's not.
Yeah. If you're someone that thinks
that it's not possible for you to have the exact dream home
that you've ever wanted, I made her tell you that it is.

(47:19):
But you need to shift your perspective to investing so that
you can leverage that investmentor your down payment.
OK, OK, OK, so and then it's noteven the down payment that I'm
personally afraid of. It's the interest rates that are
in fucking sane that just like, blow my mind.

(47:41):
And taxes. Yeah, like the taxes where you
want to live if you want to livein a really nice area of the
city is insane. And the interest rates are, I
don't know, I added it up and it'd be like 40,000 a year just
in interest or 60,000 for the house that I'm looking at, yeah.

(48:04):
Yeah, it's insane. And you know what, too?
This is like the other. The other idea is like so many
Americans want to have a typicalAmerican lifestyle, which is
understandable. However, what I tell my clients
is like, think like what if you take this same vision that you
have for your home, but instead it's in another country?

(48:25):
Like it may not be exactly what you want or what you you
picture, but you can get pretty damn close.
And there might be some workarounds to, you know, that
whole process, but it's probablygoing to be way worth it.
Yeah, especially if you can findcommunity in that country and
you're open to like start, you need that fresh start that why

(48:48):
not? Why not?
I think I'm I'm too like connected to my family to
imagine doing that. I think that would be hard.
But I will tell you, Vaughn, when I went through a really bad
breakup a year and a half ago, Ithought I'm I'm going.
I said the same thing. I was like, I saw my mentor do
it. I'm going get a house in Costa
Rica. I'm going start over and and and

(49:12):
different things happen. Ended up dating someone and that
it it led me to planning more roots here.
So it's fine. It's good.
I'm exactly where I'm meant to be.
But like, holy shit, I almost did it.
I almost did it, but that was like a mental breakdown.
Like, you know, lesbian heartbreak.
Sure, that's what that was. That's what that.
Was well, congratulations on your home.

(49:34):
I know thank you. It must feel so special to have
your own space and you've workedso hard for it so.
It feels really, really special to have roots and to like
actually be like, I, I know thatI'm going to be here a long
time. I haven't been able to feel that
as an adult. So very.

(49:55):
Grateful. Very grateful.
What does your dream date look like in Tulum?
Oh, my gosh. OK, so you know what?
This, this is something that I had to really think about
because I wasn't sure where. I wasn't sure where it would,
because this could be like anywhere in the world, right?
Yeah, it could be anywhere in the world.

(50:17):
Yeah, as much as I love Tulum, Ialso love Hawaii.
But I've also heard a lot about a lot of great things about
Thailand and Bali. Yes.
So for the. Gays in Bali.
Really. Are they That's.
What I've heard, I don't think so, like unless I'm mixing it up
with somewhere else like Thailand.
It's great. It's so good.

(50:38):
Someone I really love and cherish just got engaged in
Thailand and I'm so happy for them.
Amazing. Yeah, So it's it's so positive
there, LGBTQ positive. But Bali, I've heard like it's
dangerous to hold hands. Wow, that's good to know.
I'm apda girlie, like I want to slap your ass in public.

(50:59):
I don't want to go to jail. Physical touch is your love
language. I'd say physical touch and
gifts. I love thoughtfulness.
Yeah. And we're.
I don't know. I kind of need it all.
I'm. I'm a hot mess.
Express. I expect everything.
What about you? Hey, your insane awareness is
very attractive so I think whoever is giving that is going

(51:22):
to really respect it. Thank you.
I think so too. I'm very aware of it.
Like I need it all and I'm, I'm very good at giving it all as
well. So when it's the right person, I
think it's reciprocal, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
OK. OK.
Yeah, So wait, my my love language.

(51:42):
Love languages. Oh, I think, crap, I haven't, I
haven't actually, I've I've written this down.
I just I can't think of the top three.
Oh, I can give you them. OK, so words gives time like
quality time together. Time.
Acts of Service, touch and wait.Words, gifts, service, touch.

(52:11):
What's the last one is escaping me?
The last one is quality time. Oh, time.
OK, yes. OK OK, found line.
My top three are words of affirmation, gifts, and acts of
service. OK, I love it.
I love it. I think words are so important.

(52:32):
No matter what someone says, if they say it's not their love
language, I'm like, no, you wantto be told like affirming words.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So, OK, so I would this, it's
like the ideal, like really justfun full day of events, kind of
dates. And it really could be anywhere,

(52:52):
but I realistically it's going to be in a tropical location and
it could be anywhere. It could be anywhere tropical
really. So what I would want is to wake
up like kind of have a slow morning, have like a full course
breakfast. So nobody's cooking.
All right, We're just enjoying the day.
We get a deep tissue massage. We go for a walk on the beach.

(53:14):
We dive in the ocean because I, I love to surf.
I love the ocean. So I'm definitely getting in
there. We're going to add tan for a bit
and kind of relax. We get back home, we freshen up
and then we jump on our Moto andthen we go to a hiking trail.
So super active. We share some laughs, we go to a
waterfall, we have lunch and then we head home.

(53:35):
We freshen up again and then we go have a beautiful sunset
dinner on the beach with like romantic live music and just
like activating conversations. Oh my gosh, that sounds like a
dream. So good.
Yeah. It sounds so so, so fucking
good. Yeah, I love that.

(53:58):
I'm sure there are many ladies listening who are like, yeah,
sliding in T-bond's DMS to go onthat date.
Yeah, get your outfits ready. I know you need to like
literally plan like outfit one to like your cute little pajama
breakfast outfit, then your hiking outfit or whatever.
You know where to go to the massage.

(54:19):
Yes. I recently went on a date where
we did like the morning breakfast thing, except it was
like leftover gluten free treatsfrom a lesbian owned cafe in
town. So no one had to cook.
But it wasn't like extravagant. We just had these little treats
and then we went to go on a walkand Pilates and then had a

(54:42):
massage book that was amazing and then dinner.
So I was like very close, close,very normal day because it was
just like in my hometown. But yeah, that was, that was the
date And it, it, it went swimmingly.
The couple's massage was so cute.
I never done that except like going to a resort.
So I don't know, it's kind of just interesting in my hometown.

(55:06):
Like, I guess just cause like ofwhat I do, I'm like, oh, great,
people know I'm on a date right now.
You know, like it's like in my head.
And I don't know, that was just I get in my head about that
stuff as much as maybe I shouldn't.
Do people recognize you in public?
Yes. Wow.
Yeah, it's not that bad anymore because like, I'm nobody on

(55:30):
TikTok anymore. But back when like TikTok was
like a thing thing during COVID and I like blew up so fast
before anyone else was a thing thing.
It was like, yeah, I had people like finding out where I live
and knocking on my door. It was over that time.
But nothing, nothing bad, like, happy, like, so sweet, like
little kids. OK.

(55:52):
It was adorable. It was like, does your mom know
that I'm a lesbian influencer? You might want to like, not.
I don't know. People getting weird in the
South. Yeah.
Anyways. Weird.
Talking OK, yeah, it's still a little odd and strange but I
mean yeah, I wouldn't want people knocking at my door
because I've seen my tik toks but.

(56:15):
Have you ever had that happen? Like people were like, Oh my
gosh, like your contents helped me.
Or I mean, I'm sure at some point it will if it hasn't yet.
Yeah, I've definitely seen people that wave at me that say
my name like I'd be walking downthe street and somebody will say
hi. And I'm like, I swear I have no
idea who that is. So, like it has happened, but I
haven't thankfully had anybody like come to my, my apartment

(56:38):
and to where wherever I am and, you know, stalk me.
But yeah, other than just, you know, comments on my lives,
like, Oh my God, you really helped me with XYZ.
It's like we have an impact and a ripple effect whether we
realize it or not. And we see the validation.
Yeah, no, it is. It's really, really sweet.
Like I I cannot complain. Anyone who said hi in real life

(57:00):
like that makes my heart so happy.
What doesn't make my heart happyis online stalkers.
I've had three of them so far. Those have never showed up at my
door, thank God. But for anyone who wants to, I
have protection and I have security and I have police on
dial and I've recently invested in other security because the

(57:22):
online stalkers situation has gotten really rough in the past
three months actually. Wow, yeah, don't even try.
Good luck. Good luck.
Good luck. OK, What are your non
negotiables in your next relationship, Yvonne?
You know, I'm going to ask because as a lesbian matchmaker,
I want to know what people don'twant to help them find what they

(57:43):
do want. Right, of course.
And I think that mine are like everything I mentioned are
pretty are pretty cool. I think they're interesting.
So some are pretty generic, likeOK, so she holds herself to high
standards. So in all four areas that I
teach right in the energetic, sohealth, wealth, relationships

(58:03):
and joy. Like she has to have that down.
Absolutely. And she wants to build a
partnership. Like the hormoneses.
Do you know the hormoneses? Yes, yes.
So I want a partner that can really take on life with me.
She doesn't necessarily need to represent our brand, but I want

(58:24):
that level of partnership. Yeah, I love it.
You're like our brand, this shared entity secret.
It is, right. Or it would be if we get if
we're married. So, but yeah, she loves to
travel. She loves to learn new
languages. She's spiritual or of faith, but
has to be kind of like intuitive, like she has to have

(58:45):
her third eye has to be open, right?
It's like bottom line. And I feel that.
Yeah. And she's, she's honest, She
believes in serving others. And she has a very expansive
belief system about money, goalsand life.
That's so good. Growth mindset is everything and

(59:09):
you said like about like a diverse belief system, I think,
but and you don't give any specifics.
This is a conversation we had last night in queer Country
Club. We have like our live virtual
meetups and women will come in and we do speed dating,
conscious speed dating. And at the end we had AVIP
session and we got on the topic of spirituality and church hurt.

(59:32):
And the women in there were saying how even though they
don't cling to Christian roots anymore, it's so important to
them that their partner does have some sort of faith.
And I told them I was like, thisis the most common thing.
Like, you're not asking for a lot.
Like, everyone wants this. And I think it's because
personally, it would be scary tobe with someone who didn't

(59:54):
believe in answering to something greater like, or had a
greater purpose than just themselves.
That's my reason. Sure.
So like having believing in a higher power and something that
is leading you in some ways and being the answer to, you know,
just leaning in and having that faith.

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Yeah, Is it hard to date as a nomad?
Yeah, you know, it's I thought about this.
I don't think it's it's difficult to, nor easier.
And if anything, there are more compatible people that I have
met, but it has so much more to do with like what they're doing,

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right. So it's like I'm on my own
mission and so are they. So like, sure, I've seen some
beautiful women that have come my way and I've only really like
had a few flames. Like I'm very like, if I invest
my time in somebody, it's going to be like somebody that's not
gonna waste. Like, I don't want to waste
their time. I don't want them to waste my

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time. So I'd rather not get involved.
So I've been single for years and wow, I think that my person
is right now so focused on building their movement that I'm
not going to meet them until I go to like a business conference
or an event or somewhere where we're like, we meet in the
middle where we know that we're actually building traction.

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Because right now it just feels like there's a lot of like
flybys, There's a lot of like potentials that are like, OK,
you're, you could be. But The thing is too, and I'm
sure you've heard this or even teach this, is like don't settle
for potential. Like you don't want to be with
somebody for who they're going to be.
You need to be with them for whoyou are and who they are right

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now. Yes, 100%.
Definitely something I teach. You cannot look at potential.
And if you're looking at potential in someone, you can
probably look back on all your relationships and notice where
you stayed so much longer. Like the moment you see that
that's not who someone is and that's why you want them to be

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is the moment where you get to decide to have some grace for
that person, but you're meant tobe together.
Or hey, this is just not it for me.
Not it. It takes faith to do that.
It takes faith that the right person is out there to do that.
Yeah, so it does. And that's settling.

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Yeah, 100%. With what I do, as much as I
like have been like, I want to help people find their future
wife. I want to find my future wife.
My focus is helping other peoplefind the future wife because
right now I am like you, like you said, it's going to have to
be like an intersection. That's like undeniable because

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of the level of focus that I have is like, yeah, I mean, you
can do both. You can, but it would have to
just be. I don't know.
No time for distractions really.It's like once I start shifting
my focus to like, you know, being selfless and reaching and
wondering how their day is going, where what they're

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working on, it's like it, it does, it takes away from the
energy I'm pouring into myself. Yeah, and it's like I'm, I'm
open to doing that for the rightperson.
I just don't want it to ever weigh me down where it's like,
OK, now I'm like managing someone else's emotions right
now. And yeah, and relationships
aren't always easy. So it's not fair to somebody to

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just, yeah, I don't know. I'm, I'm in a space where when
the right person walks in, I I'mnot going to deny that, but I'm
also not on the prowl for myself24/7.
It's like, if that pops up, awesome.
But I am so, so, so focused. Another day I got this message
from someone being like, you need to change your marketing

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because you make it all about you and like you're looking for
your future wife. And I was like, there's nuance
and truth, but also so much morethan just that to all of it.
Like I'm marketing to the woman who thinks like me, like who
these are her standards. So it's tangible and it's great

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messaging to say this is what I'm looking for rather than just
creating an ad of are you looking for this?
And I was like, it's not all about me, but people who aren't
in our world, I guess don't realize that.
So they think that I'm just being like so selfish.
And I'm like, no, I'm every timeI create a video like that, if I
can bring in another woman that is a quality woman that I would

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consider dating for you to date,you should be thanking me so.
Yeah, exactly. I agree.
It's like you're sharing what your standards are and that
reflects your work. And so for someone to like,
feel, I don't know, intimidated by that level of what you want,
then it's like, OK, well, like you're not a match for what I

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have. So yeah, don't worry about it.
That that's literally, and I waslike, OK, like you're not a
match for the community that it's fine.
Like I think anyone who has any form of intelligence can see
that there's truth of that's what I'm looking for.
But also, like, I am a quality marketer looking for quality
women to add to a unique bespokeexperience.

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So yeah, what about you? Like, who is the ideal client
for you? Like, who are you looking to
help? If someone's listening to this
and they're like, Yvonne's cool.I want to talk to Rob money.
But like, what it what? What stage of life is she at and
where is she at? She can be at any stage of life
really. So me and my team, we help

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people who are really just getting started.
So say let's just call it like mid 20s to, you know, 4050 plus.
Like we really help people from the whole spectrum as far as age
situations, divorces, marriages,children.
It really is more sort of matterof like, how committed are you
to actually doing this deep workand being vulnerable enough to

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be open to the idea of new information.
Because here's the thing, a lot of finance gurus, they give a
lot of misinformation. It's really confusing.
And most of it is just paid sponsorship.
So it's like not even the information that you even need.
And for my approach, it has so much more to do with like, OK, I
want to make sure that you understand that you don't feel

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dumb, that you feel respected and you feel heard because this
is like doing, like even healingyour relationship with money is
like going to therapy, right? It's like I've had clients that
have been in the darkest hole oftheir life to in a matter of a
month or two telling me that they're like, like, holy crap, I
don't know what you did, but youdid more than my therapist ever,

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ever has. And it's really just such a
beautiful transformation to to show you how it can be so easy.
And like specifically for all ofthe people, for all of my
clients that are mentors, movement makers, they're someone
that is building a mission and abrand so big you need this kind

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of foundation. Like you need the foundations to
understanding, you know, like how much is it actually going to
cost to plan for a conference, aretreat, you know what I mean?
So there's like the the level ofservice for me is the person
that has a business for the, forthe online coach that wants to

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become someone that is on billboards in New York City,
like Bridget, you know what I mean?
So it's like I have the capacityto support those people.
And I meant to also lead you through the energetics and the
embodiment and all of the fear, scarcity and guilt.
And so that's why I say like, wereally can't help anyone at any

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stage. But and at the end of the day,
I'm here to support the person that has a movement so massive
that they it makes like people that like the every average,
everyday average person. Look at you like Oh my God,
you're fucking crazy. Yes, I get that.
I get that a lot. That's that's awesome.

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That's awesome. Yeah.
It's, it's interesting what you were saying about how in your
past, like we right before you were hitting rock bottom, like
you weren't even able to open your mail.
And I think whether you're a business owner or you're working
9:00 to 5:00 and you're, you're hustling the way up the
corporate ladder, being so awareof what's coming in, what's

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coming out, what the proper investment is so important.
Like I have a call next week with my what do you call them?
Financial advisor? Yes, to like make sure things
are proper and I don't I don't think about it like I just kind
of like have my person do the things.

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But I was like, it's important for me to have this call and
like really understand and look at what's in savings looks all
the things, all the things, but it took me a long time to want
to get there. Like it took me a long time to
be open to looking at it becauseuntil I felt stable I didn't

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want to look at it. And I think it would have been a
lot faster if I would have done the energetic work first, so.
Yeah, yeah. It's, you know, it's not going
to be what you want it to be. And the reality is it's, it's
probably won't. If you are an entrepreneur like
us, it's going to be like, OK, cool.

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Like that's what it is. And that's OK.
And it's like anything else, like your relationship with
food, with yourself, with your partner.
It's something that you have to check on every single day.
You have to feel and you have toreceive, build trust with
yourself to hold on to it. And of course, understand what
you can spend. Yeah.

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What's the next thing that you're working on like that
you're most excited about? Right now I've actually really
diving into the money magic and the energetics.
So there's there is the, the energetics, the embodiment.
And then of course there's like the inner work where you like
really reframed certain beliefs.And I'm going back to the, the

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energetics and the step right before the belief system because
it's, it really is about aligning your brain with your
nervous system. And especially for the business
owners, for those of you listening, if you want to call
in a level of success in your life, in your business, it is a

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matter of the capacity that yournervous system can hold and feel
safe with. And so there are so many other
little nuances, right? So like our beliefs about sales,
our beliefs about being seen showing up, but at the end of
the day, it's the capacity of feeling safe and just
recalibrating your system. 100% like I can think back to every

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season of life, right right before like an up level or even
in the beginning of an up level where I felt freaking scared.
But then you push yourself to like some new level and you
literally in that moment, at least for me as an entrepreneur,
whether it's taking on new team members, like really expanding
the team or taking on much higher expenses for my living.
Like it was like a moment of I either calibrate to this or I

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don't. And choosing to calibrate above
and be able to energetically hold it.
And then it just becomes normal.Like I cannot even explain it.
I'm sure this is what you do explain and teach people.
But I'm so proud of myself because like the things that I'm
able to hold now before breakfast, literally.

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And like I don't, I used to talkabout numbers a lot because of
what I did as a business coach. But like we won't even go there.
But before breakfast on certain days, I'm just like, how is this
happening? Now, Granted, there's a lot more
expenses, right? Like as your business grows,
it's not always you get to keep cash and sales does not equal

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like your take home, right? I still live a very modest life.
Anyone who knows when you're like that girl's cheapest fuck,
like she's save, save, saves. Yeah, because I've got 6-7
people now to put food on the table for her, not myself.
But the fact that I'm able to hold it is just insane.
And I, I don't take it for granted.
I wake up every day and I'm like, God, thank you.

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And let's go, Let's, let's, let's go like, let's, let's get
to the next level. And I will hold it and I will do
right by you with it. Like anytime, any time I feel
stuck or I don't believe I should get to that next thing,
always lean into being like, whynot me?
Why not? Because I would cherish whatever

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The thing is, I would be responsible with it.
Like that is what I always lean into.
And it's just crazy to exist in a reality because you calibrated
to the thing. So if anyone wants to learn more
about this, I highly recommend it because it's the only way
that I've gotten to where I'm atin every way, shape or form.

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And Yvonne's content is full of information about calibrating
and just great money tips. So I love every time you come up
in my feed, I'm like pause, watching, absorbing.
Amazing. Yeah.
And of course I go into the strategy and the more of the

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tactical things. But for me, even having the
Money Theory podcast, I launch that because I enjoy the
conversations around all of this, all of the OK, so this is
a construct, this is an idea, but what does that actually
mean? Because all of the information

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out there, like how to manifest your life, how to manifest more
money, it's bullshit because it's surface level.
And so at a point I came, I cameto a point where I was wondering
like, OK, I've journaled, I've gotten really clear and I'm like
meditating, like, what am I missing?
And so I really had to like crack the code of like what it

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actually meant to get yourself in a high vibrational state
because money is just energy. So the more energy you have, the
more money you can make. So it has everything to do,
which is being a very healthy and active person.
And I love that. I love that for me.
And I love witnessing others like, actually like audit their

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whole life in a way that's goingto allow them to just be
authentically happy and fulfill their mission.
Yeah, yeah, I, I love it. I mean, making time like we were
talking about like your morning routine, making time is like
hard for people, no matter what your career looks like.

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And like you said, energy, if money is just energy, then we've
we've got to have it. We've got to make time to to
have that energy. Anyway, this has been a great
conversation. If people were thinking they
want to work with you, how do they do it?
What do they go to? Sure.
So you can connect with me on Instagram.

(01:15:26):
So if you're someone that is a movement builder and you need a
money plan or you want to improve your money habits and
your behaviors so that you can buy your dream home stack assets
and really not have to worry about outliving your money.
DM me the word plan on Instagram.
And what we'll do is we'll have a conversation about where you

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are now and where you want to begoing into 2025 or going into
2026. And at the time of filming this,
there is a free wealth expansionmaster class on my profile.
And this is going to teach you how to align your brain and
nervous system for effortless cash flow in your business.
I love that. OK OK so DM the word what again?

(01:16:10):
Plan. Plan.
Awesome, and your screen name isthe same on TikTok and
Instagram. Yeah, so on Instagram it's the
money maestro. OK, awesome.
I'll put this all in the show notes for you all.
I highly recommend raising your vibration, whether it is actual
money or just bringing in abundance in your life or

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bringing in love in your life. Like it all actually kind of
goes together. It's really whatever you're
putting your focus on, that's what will manifest and it's
important to take control and know how to hold on to the reins
of your life and create the reality that you want.
Thank you for sharing your reality with us, Yvonne.

(01:16:53):
That was just beautiful. Thank you for sharing your
vulnerable story and. Yes, thank you for making space
and or listening because you know, so often it's it's not
easy to talk about these things,but more importantly, there's
not many people that know these things.
So I definitely feel safe with you.
So thank you. I'm honored to hold that space.

(01:17:15):
Thank you anyone listening, if you have a story similar to
Vaughn and you've been through it and you're ready to just live
your best life, continue listening to this podcast.
I promise you'll be encouraged. Queer Woman Rising started
honestly as my business podcast back in the day because I wanted

(01:17:35):
to show people that lesbians could be successful.
When I first came out of the closet, someone I love very much
told me that I would never be successful or blessed by the
Lord because I'm gay. And that was fun.
It made me cry at 1st and then it made me mad, and then it made
me try really hard and then it made me win.
And I am a queer woman who's rising, who is so connected to

(01:18:00):
God and who is thriving in life.And if I wanted to, even in
love. But right now, I'm so focused on
the business. But The thing is, there are
other lesbians out there living your dream life.
And if you're already living your dream life, you're not
alone. There are queer women who are
extremely successful, who are thriving.

(01:18:22):
And it's just hard to see that visibility in the world, in the
media around us actually, like only 2.4% of the population
actually identifies lesbian. It's hard.
It's hard to find lesbians in the wild doing the thing.
If that's been something you want to see more of, continue
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(01:18:43):
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Ciao.