October 15, 2024 • 48 mins
Quest for Power is Back! New music, new narrative structure, new host; same backstabbing bloody nonsense.
In this premiere episode of Season 5, we are traversing through the very beginning of the First Kingdom of the Burgundians. Hear how myth turns into legend and how legend becomes history.
We also get a guest appearance by our first ruler, King Alaric I of the Visigoths.
Protagonists: Gebicca, Gundomar, Giselher, Gunther
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The Roman Empire is tearingitself apart.
Nightmares from the east areheading west.
In all this chaos rises a newburgundian kingdom.
This is the quest for power.
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Welcome to the quest forpower, where we are raiding and reviewing
all european monarchs from thecollapse of the western Roman Empire
to World War one.
I am Michael, and if youdidn't notice, I have a new co host
joining me today.
And that is Roberto from TsarPower and history of.
I cannot say it blank, Georgia.
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The history of Sacramento, Georgia.
Happy to be here, Michael.
Hey, everyone.
I hopped onto this podcast.
You can say it's a bit of an invasion.
Yes.
Yes, it definitely has.
I can't.
Can't thank you, Roberto,enough for helping me continue this.
This podcast was literally onthe brink of extinction, and I was
gonna have to do somethingcompletely different.
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So I am very excited tocontinue this ambitious project that
I have set out.
Well, if there's one thing,it's that I'm addicted to podcasting.
So let's.
There you go.
Perfect.
Before we also forget, Ireally want to make sure I thank
Scott for helping me start all this.
I asked him out of the clearblue, and it was very more than enough
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that he helped me start thisambitious project, especially when
he heard probably what I saidis like, that's a long time, so I
get it.
Scott, you're awesome.
He definitely is.
Alrighty.
So kind of little backgroundthings of how we're going to continue
forward in writing this seasonand future seasons.
I have cut out quite a bit ofthe historical analysis, and I'm
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putting a much more intensefocus on the story itself, which
is a significant shift in thecurrent structure.
The reason I'm doing this isone the stories, to me, are the heart
of history.
That's kind of being takenaway as we keep getting more and
more down the line for moremodern historians, I've noticed,
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and I want to bring it backinto focus of what these people would
have felt like in their time.
So magic is real, dragons arereal, goblins, werewolves, witches,
because that is what they believed.
They are real.
Yeah, exactly.
In the most b's stories, thereis a kernel of truth, and often you
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completely miss that truth ifyou don't hear the story and you
just write it off.
So that's kind of the excusethat I give myself for and putting
in fantastical elements in thestory because I'm obsessed, obsessed
with fantasy.
In case everyone hasn'tnoticed by now, I am, too.
And I promise I'm gonna makeMichael watch the extended lord of
the Rings at one point in his life.
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Yeah, I've stopped middle ofthe similarian right now because
House of Dragon is on, and soGame of Thrones is everything right
now.
So here's the thing.
I've seen Game of Thrones.
I have not watched House of the.
Dragon so better than Game ofThrones, which is probably a hot
take, but I have reallyenjoyed what they have done with
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this show.
Here's the thing.
You have to get me to watchHouse of the dragon because I refuse
to until fire and blood parttwo is out.
You know, that's fair.
And like, we, I know we wantto do for premium episodes to like,
do the kings and queens ofWesteros, but at a certain point
we're going to hit theBlackfyre rebellion, which I think
is part two.
So we would have to do it andthen we'd have to stop in the middle.
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Can wait for George RR Martinto finish a book.
Yeah, exactly.
That's a joke.
It's been twelve years,actually 13 now.
Yeah.
I don't even know theBlackfyre rebellion, other than some
king legitimized all hisbastards right before he died, which.
That's a fantastic start tohis story, honestly.
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Yes.
Which is why I'm so excitedfor part two.
Alrighty.
So to help you kind of followalong with this new narrative, I'm
going to try and write thescript in terms of scenes.
These scenes, though, can spananywhere from a couple of minutes
of dialogue between hishistorical characters.
Two years at a time, if that'swhat it takes to kind of describe
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what's going on.
And then once our protagonistis killed off, we stop the narrative
and we go into the ratingportion of the podcast.
Since we're still a rexypodcast, like we, it must be done.
We will rate the kings, queensand other power players when they're
killed off.
As I have said, only if theyhave, like, enough information to
give them a rating.
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There are tons of kings andqueens where they're one line in
the Chronicle, and that is it.
Especially when we go toIreland, Scotland, England.
All of those early petty kings can't.
Wait for the Heptarchy.
Yes, if they have enoughinformation, we'll give them a rating
based on, of course, royal power.
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We will never get rid of that infamy.
And then instead of religiouspassion, we now have oath of devotion
because d and D bardicinspiration and legacy.
And like I said, more the truth.
It's about the 80 20 rule.
Certain episodes, 80% of thefacts are true, 20% is false.
It's up to you to decide whichone and others.
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It's going to be 20% true, 80% false.
I will give you the bestinformation that I can get from the
sources at the time.
But the sources at the timeare awful and they have their own
agendas that they're setting.
Are you telling me that thechroniclers like to lie about stuff?
I know, I know.
Especially this one historianI constantly get in fights with.
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You might know him as Greg.
Wait, Gregory of tours?
Yes.
That man can slander.
In this season, season five ofthe Burgundians.
I will get in a fight with Greg.
So you can look forward to that.
I can't wait because I knownothing about other than that he's
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just a bit of a jerk, a bit ofa bastard, just so to say.
I hate him so much.
I, but I love him because itgives us all of this rich information
that we wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
Oh, also, but people think Imay be not a good audience member
because I do history research.
I do eastern european history.
So, uh, you know, if it'spast, like the Balkans and like the
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Czech Republic, I'm out.
So it'll be fun.
That's good.
That, that's, that's not my forte.
So when we get over there, ifwe ever get over there, that we'll
have to really, really be onmy game then.
All right, before we begin, Ihave to catch up with some podcasts
that have given their promosfor us.
And the first one we're goingto start with is autocrat.
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They are a great podcast topair with ours.
They go through the entiretyof roman history all the way back
from mythical creation likethey do the greek myths as like the
roman style and they end allthe way at the fall of Constantinople.
So they are ambitious and acompletionist after my own heart.
I like that.
I should listen to them.
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You really should.
They're really fun.
And so without further ado.
Hello.
Hello and welcome to autocrats.
I am Vince, one of the co hosts.
And so what is autocrat?
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Well, we are a podcast that isgoing to be going through the entire
journey of roman civilization essentially.
That sounds nice.
So roman civilization, whatdoes that mean?
Well, we are going to be goingfrom greek mythology, the kingdom
of Alba Longa.
What is that?
Alba longa?
Yeah, it's basically the statethat came before the roman kingdom.
Oh, cool, cool, cool.
And then the roman kingdom.
Yes, the roman kingdom.
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The Republic.
Then going through, you know,empire, what we call Byzantium.
But shouldn't we'll get tothat, listeners, all the way to Constantine
Xi and beyond.
So if that sounds likesomething you'd be interested in,
feel free to come and join us.
We can be found on places suchas Spotify, YouTube, under the Handle
autocrat podcast, on ourwebsite at www.
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Dot autocratpodcast, dotworldpress.com, or on TikTok, where
we upload a few shorts.
We hope to see you there.
Our very first king.
We're gonna jump right into it.
Of the first kingdom of theBurgundians is Gyuki.
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I'm going to call him Gabaka,which is one of the number of spellings
I.
This original spelling is G ju k I.
Yucky, yucky, yucky.
I'm going with Gebica becauseI like that so much better.
Wasn't he yucky, though?
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I don't know.
I thought, he's fine.
Spoilers.
The problem with Gebica is hemight not have existed.
I'm gonna say in the quest forpower canon that he is our first
king of the Burgundians, andtherefore we don't have a beginning
date to his reign.
There is no idea.
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We do know that this kingunited several separate Burgundy
tribes under one banner.
And I'm guessing it's througha combination of marriage and conquest
as most.
What happens when you knightand tribe together.
That makes sense to me.
So that's.
Yeah, he did something wedon't know.
Yeah, exactly.
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We're in that time of a blackhole of information.
Speaking of that time, hecurrently rules a piece of land on
the right bank of the Rhine river.
They weren't really clear onwhere the right bank is.
I'm gonna guess somewhere in Germany.
They're not quite in modernday burgundy yet, so.
Okay, that's interesting.
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During this time of rule in395, King Alaric was raised on a
shield in defiance of the Romans.
So we have that going on whilethis guy comes to rule.
I heard he was pretty great.
Yeah, he was pretty solid.
He's definitely my favoriteVisigoth so far.
Hands down.
Uric was fun, but Alaric, whojust made life hell for the Romans,
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was a good time.
We know that Gebbica had sexat least three times with a woman
in his life because he is saidto have fathered three sons named
Gundamar, Gehizer and Gunther.
Gunther.
Gunter.
Thank you, Gunter.
Gunter.
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In 406, he decided that nowwould be a good time to invade the
western empire.
Basically, the western empireis collapsing in on itself.
They're constantly infighting, and I'm pretty confident
this is with a bunch of otherbarbarians that they're coming across.
And then he, in 407, he caughtthe deadly case of no longer existing
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in late antiquity and died.
Oh, well.
Do we rank him already?
We're gonna continue.
What we're gonna do is we'regonna do all of the kings together,
because now you see whythere's not much to go off of.
So what we know so far is hesomehow united the tribes.
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Yep.
He had sex at least three times.
Correct.
He lived somewhere near the Rhine.
Right bank of the Rhine.
And he died.
He, uh, invaded Rome.
He invaded Rome, then he died.
Correct.
How did he die?
Sickness or.
I don't know.
Come up with it.
What do you think?
Oh, he drank from the wrongbottle of wine.
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Perfect.
It was actually the one thathad gone sour.
He hated it so much.
Threw up to death.
Yeah.
Oh, that's.
That's not a good way to go.
Well, that's quest for powercannon now.
So we had a scold next.
You know how to skull andcrossbones on it for some reason,
but, you know, whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
He.
He can't read.
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It's fine.
Yeah.
Can't look at pictures either, apparently.
Yes.
So that is the life and reignof Gevica of House Burgundy, the
first of his name, king of the Burgundians.
Like I said, normally, thatwould be the most anticlimactic episode.
And it's over, and it's like,why would you even bother?
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We're gonna continue.
Womp womp.
Once the mythical king Gebbaqadies in 407, his three sons become
the kings of the Burgundians.
This is based on a heroictradition of several kings ruling
together at the same time.
They each have their ownarmies, but it's like they rule as
a confederation of kings.
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It is not what Gregory oftours thinks it is.
He thinks that it is threeseparate kingdoms.
It's not that at all.
They do think.
Only the Franks do stupidstuff like that.
They rule it together, but asa confederation.
Okay, so it's not like they'redoing gavelkin, where it's like,
you separate your territoriesamongst your kids.
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Correct.
They get their.
They get their armies, theyget land, but they the angles altogether.
Correct.
Yeah.
So, like, they each have,like, their own, as we'll learn later
on, they each have, like,their own power base from specific
cities or towns that they're in.
And that's the most kingdom,like, separate kingdoms that they
get.
And there is.
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The older brother will get themore powerful city, because there's
still kind of primogeniture in it.
But it's not like anythingthat is normal.
It's actually normal, I think,in the sagas.
I don't know for sure.
I don't know the sagas that well.
I need to, but it's calledheroic tradition.
From what I could gather, the roost.
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Kind of do the same thing.
Actually, they do.
They have those.
They have a set of lands wherehere's the most important one, the
eldest gets it, then here'sthe lesser cities and all that, but.
Sorry, I should stop.
But it's just something similar.
But they still fight for eachother, so.
Correct.
I'm so expecting the threebrothers or the three burgundian
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tears to do that today.
Just fight against each otherto get land.
Yeah, yeah, we'll.
We'll have to see.
Oh.
So while this is going on, myfavorite visigothic king, Alaric,
is being an absolute royalpain in the ass to the east and the
west, roman empires.
And speaking of Romans, thethree Burgundians kings allied themselves
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with the Suebi, the Vandals,and the Alans, forming what I will
call the germanic alliance.
The Alans.
The Alani, if you want to sayit correct.
Oh, no.
I.
I was thinking, there's abunch of guys named Alan now.
That is what Totalis Rankium.
I know.
He's like, yeah, there's Alan.
But now.
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But now that I'm in thisscene, I'm like, yeah, this is what
I'm seeing now.
I'm like, great.
That's all I hear.
It's like, oh, there's a bunchof guys named Alan in a tribe.
Yeah, sorry, the Alani.
I'll be better.
No, no, it's funny.
You just say Alan's.
I'm sorry.
One of these kings in thealliance is our previous Vandal,
king, Gundarek, who is thefather of Geyser the cruel.
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So our kingdoms are startingto form together already and interlock,
which is the one main reason Idid the podcast this way.
So I really find that fascinating.
Yeah, everything's starting tomesh together, you see, like, oh,
yeah, I've heard about the vandals.
I've heard about these guys.
Oh, everyone's coming together now.
Oh, the storylines are converging.
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Yeah.
And you start to get a moreclear picture.
Every king you continue into,you're like, oh, so that's why they
did that.
And then all that makes sense.
Nothing's in a vacuum, butit's hard to tell a story without
some sort of vacuum andcutting stuff out.
The Germans were quite awarehow vulnerable Rome frontier forces
were, so they seized the opportunity.
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They attacked defense, andthey absolutely steamrolled their
way through what were calledborders of the Rhineland.
But let's face it, they werestruggling at best to hold the line.
You can't contain me.
Yeah, exactly.
The thing is, invading is one thing.
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It is a whole other thing tohold conquered lands.
And in order to do this, thealliance had to now engage in this
psychotic mess of the roman politics.
So they had to get themselvesinvolved into this disaster.
I wouldn't touch that with aten foot pole during this.
No, no.
I would have been like, no,I'm good.
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I'm.
No, I want to sit here.
Just.
Just give me the money.
I'll leave.
Oh, you have nothing?
Damn.
Yeah, that was probably.
They were like, well, youdon't got anything?
Damn it.
Does the east have anything?
Yeah.
The three brothers put supportbehind a roman gallic aristocrat
named Jovian or Jovinus in hisbid as emperor.
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This was over in Gaul.
He was a gallic aristocrat, so he.
I think this was also duringAlaric's episode.
If not, it was Atolf'sepisode, when jovian kind of came
into the picture.
Mm hmm.
In exchange for their support,Jovian granted the Burgundians the
land around the modern day city.
Worms in Germany.
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Is that how you say it?
It's spelled worms.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Forms in Germany.
Almost a bit of a language nerd.
Guys, I'm sorry.
No, perfect.
That I have.
I stumble across so manydifferent languages in this.
So.
No, that's great.
It is at this point in theconfederation of the Burgundians,
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now known as the kingdom of Worms.
In 411, one of the kings,Gundamore, falls victim to this thing
known as death.
How did he die, Michael?
I'm going to say in the questfor power cannon that he was cut
down in battle while fightingalongside the pretender Jovinus.
There is no evidence to backthat up.
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It is just covered in wormswith the time.
Yes.
So that is the life and reignof Gundamar of House Burgundy, the
first of his name, king of Worms.
Literally.
Now, two to go.
Man, this is going by quick.
Yeah, it is.
The two remaining burgundiankingdoms continue the fight on the
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side of the pretender emperorJovinus in southern Gaul.
However, in 413, Jovenus wasdefeated, and his head was sent to
honoris to be displayed in Ravenna.
Wow, that's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I always wonder.
He was all the way in gall, right?
How do you keep the head,like, from rotting away in that trip
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from gall all the way to Ravenna?
Probably ice from the mountains.
Oh, I guess I could see that.
Yeah, they go through the alps.
Okay.
You know what they say, don'tlose your head.
Hey, where is it?
That reminds me of the don'tlose your head song from six, the
musical about King Henry's wives.
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I've never.
King Henry the 8th.
Oh, it is so good.
I love it so much.
I listen to it all the time.
You would think that being onthe losing side of a war, especially
with the Romans, is going tospell disaster for the Burgundians.
And normally you'd be correct.
They generally don't.
They're pretty unkind to people.
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They would consider helpingusurpers and things like that out.
But the Romans have enoughinternal problems right now that
they can't afford to deal withthe burgundian kingdom.
Hey, that guy just won a battle.
Let's make him emperor.
Exactly.
They're dealing with thatissue right now.
So a treaty is being drawn upbetween the house of Burgundy and
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the western roman empire.
The Burgundians were allowedto exist.
Exist on the land given tothem by Jovenus in return for essentially
becoming the foedorati or aroman vassal state, is the way I
would basically say what they are.
Confederation thing.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then around the year 430,terrifying news was coming from the
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east.
There was a force ofunstoppable onslaught of death and
destruction that was headedtheir way.
Refugees carried stories thatwere the stuff of nightmares.
Entire cities were ravaged,burned and wiped from existence.
Men were being slaughtered inthe streets while these hunnic beasts
forced themselves upon thewomen and the girls before they were
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chained and sold into slavery.
Oh, no, that's terrifying.
Yeah.
This destructive force knownas the Huns is actually what inspired
the army of the dead in Gameof Thrones.
I believe I talked about thisin Attila the Huns episode, but Dothraki
Horde?
Yeah.
No, not the Dothraki horde.
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That's the Mongols.
This is the army of the dead.
And Attila being the Night king.
Oh, now I get it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Think about it with.
So the reason that is so muchis much like the wild folk in Game
of Thrones, the Burgundiansand all of those other germanic tribes
are getting intense pressurefrom the Huns that are displacing
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just massive swaths of population.
And as a result, they have toeither try and kill Romans and take
their land or be wiped out bythis oncoming Horde.
Yeah, okay, I get that now.
So a title of the Hun iscausing some issues and making people
move, and that's causing issues.
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The romance is like, who arethese barbarians?
We're fleeing from a biggerperson that we're more scared of
than you.
So get out of the way.
This is my house now.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And what really sucks for alot of these germanic kingdoms is
they're in no man's land.
They're between thisunstoppable force that is coming
at them and this unmovableobject that is kind of starting to
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crack of the roman empire.
But that would just be aterrifying position to be in.
Yeah, I can see.
And I can see who are thehedge by bets on, like, oh, this
guy's actually winning.
And we've actually won a fewbattles and they have issues.
Let's go to the Romans becauseat least we can get them to deal
with us.
Yeah, exactly.
They're not actively burningeverything down other than themselves.
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Yeah, they.
They had their heyday andburning everything down.
They're.
They're done with that now.
Unfortunately for the Romans,they did not have a magical ice wall
that kept out unnatural forces.
So in order to get the hellout of the way of this oncoming storm,
the Burgundians attacked theroman province and Belisia Prima,
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which is the land aroundmodern day trier in Germany.
So in 435, the Burgundianswere defeated in battle by an actual
competent roman general named Aetius.
Pretty rare.
Was he made emperor, too?
No, and I believe it's becausehe is part germanic and therefore
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roman enough.
And he is.
I don't think he's quite thepower behind the throne, but he's
damn close.
I don't think it's quite yetthat that's around.
He might have been, but stilla call.
Still was okay for during,during Alaric's time, but he was
killed during Alex reign.
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We're way past Alaric now.
We're in atolf time.
I think it's 435.
I don't have my map up, but.
So best boy Silico is dead.
Actually, during around thistime in 435, we have Theodoric the
first.
He.
I don't remember what we didwith him.
I'm pretty confident he wasjust a standard king because I don't
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remember hating him and Idon't remember loving him.
I don't remember either.
I just did all the episodesand it was just a lot all at once.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, Iretained, like, the cool bits, but
now I remember what therankings were.
Yeah, that was over a year agofor me, so I just barely.
He was.
He was fine.
Even though, again, this isnot confirmed.
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I'm going to go ahead and saythe quest for power cannon records
that the burgundian kingGeisler was slain in battle.
He got impaled by a spear andthen got his head crushed by a horse.
I love it.
Perfect.
I'm a very gruesome person.
I.
We're gonna do a lot ofgruesome things in this podcast,
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so that's good.
History is unkind.
That is the life and reign ofGeisler of House Burgundy, the first
of his name, king of worms.
Alrighty, we have one kingremaining game.
Gunter.
Gunther.
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Gunter, Gunter.
Give you an idea of what theRomans are dealing with at this point
in history.
The vandal king, Geysrich thecruel, one of my favorite kings we
have ever done, is being anabsolute menace in northern africa
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right now.
And Theodorek the first, hey,I have it on here on my notes, is
constantly waging war on andagain and off again with the Romans.
So I'm just letting you knowthat I'm imagining this king as a
penguin because of adventure time.
So Gunter is just.
The king of Worms is just apenguin from adventure time to me,
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I.
Guess he eats birds.
I mean, he's a bird, so hecould eat worms, even though penguins
I don't think do, but fish,because it's.
Gonna be worm like wormints ofthe sea.
Mm hmm.
Certain ones.
We know that Gunther had sexat least twice in his life with a
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woman since he father two sonsthat are named Gundiak and Kilbrick.
During some point in his life.
In 436, Gunther was made awarethat he had some unwanted guests.
Roman general, atheists, waslike, I'm back.
Except he had.
Except he had a bunch ofhunnic mercenaries with them.
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The roman force attackedGunther's forces with cold vengeance
and obliterated the burgundian kingdom.
Gunther and many Burgundianswere slain in the vicious assault.
It was borderline genocide.
That is the end of the shortlylived kingdom of Worms and the tragic
reign of Gunther of HouseBurgundy, the first of his name.
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King of Worms.
No, not the penguin I know.
So.
But first of his name.
So there could be other ones.
There could be.
Okay, so that's, uh, that'swhat we have.
I will say that we are notdone with the Burgundians.
Two princes that we mentionedthat he fathered somehow survived.
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Somehow, somehow.
Somehow their mom took theminto, like, a small cave and fed
them to the wolves.
Wait.
Yeah, there you go.
No, not.
The wolves fed them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The wolves fed them and nursedthem to health.
All right, are you ready torank all four of these guys at once?
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We're completely breaking withrexy tradition on your first episode.
So are you ready to rank anentire kingdom in day one?
I'm ready.
Alrighty.
Royal power.
How well did they acquire,wield, and maintain power?
How long do you think thisfirst kingdom of the Burgundians
lasted?
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At least, I'd say around 30 years.
Holy crap.
So we don't know exactly whenGabaka formed the kingdom, but he
died around 407.
Gunther was slain in 437, so30 plus years.
Hey.
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Love it for the good intention works.
It does.
Gebika united several smaller,separate kingdoms under one banner.
They seized the opportunity toestablish themselves as a vassal
kingdom within the empire, andthey were able to kind of hold their
own against Rome for a time.
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Yes, Rome was tearing itselfapart, but that's still pretty good.
Rome has still got aformidable army.
Like, we can't understate that enough.
Like, Rome is just theirlogistics are always superior, and
logistics are what win wars.
They're the.
Still the big kid on the block.
They may be having a bunch ofissues, but, like, you mess with
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Rome, and especially as asmaller nation, so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They're struggling.
I can do some.
I can put in some pot shots,but if they pay attention to me,
I'm fucking screwed.
Yeah.
Chris Ford.
There you go.
You can say all the ones you want.
Yeah.
So I can see there's, like,some good having lasted that long.
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But they did get crushed atthe end.
I was gonna say the bad.
They were pushed around likeeveryone else by the Huns, so they
had no agency there, and theygot absolutely annihilated.
Obliterated.
There's nothing left by the Romans.
Yeah, it's.
It's nothing good.
And we don't really have muchinformation for, like, what they
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did, because all I kepthearing is like, yeah, they built
something up, and then they got.
They got destroyed.
They got destroyed.
They got destroyed.
I'm like, oh, not a fun time.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it was not the strongestof starts for the kingdom.
Mm hmm.
But, yeah, so I get it.
So I think I'm gonna give him,like, a three.
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Three.
Because it's like you said,the kingdom was destroyed after this,
right?
No, two princes.
Yeah, yeah.
This is called.
Yeah, but this kingdom iscalled the first kingdom of the Burgundians.
This season is the burgundian kingdoms.
Oh, plural, plural, plural, plural.
Okay, so I get that now.
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So because the kingdom isgone, it's.
Yes, there's nothing left.
So I'm giving them a point forbuilding up the kingdom from, like,
a bunch of small tribes,getting them together.
Yeah.
You know, another point fordoing the Federati thing with the
Romans, because that's a smartplay to survive and get.
And it opens up trade with theRomans and then, you know, an extra
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point just because it's thefirst kingdom of the federal.
And, um.
But they got their asses wipedby the.
By the Romans and the Huns.
So then I get too much morefor me.
Yeah, the bad's really bad,and the good is.
It's solid.
Oh, so you said three?
Yeah.
I can feel like you're gettingeven lower.
I'm gonna be harsh.
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I'm going one.
Okay, that's fine.
You know, that's a four forroyal power.
Infamy.
What are they infamous for?
It doesn't have to be true or not.
I haven't come across anythingthat I would deem infamous.
Did you see anything?
I don't know.
Zero.
Zero?
That's a zero for infamy.
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Oath of devotion.
How devoted were they to their faith?
They were just trying tosurvive while the world around them
is going to hell.
There's no time for devotionto the church.
I will say there is a solidchance that they are nicene christians.
We don't know for sure, butthere's a solid chance.
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I mean, but we don't know.
So they also could be aryan christians.
Oh, heretics.
Oh, no.
They could be either or.
And there's, we don't know.
Zero for me.
Yeah, zero.
Oathbreaker bardic inspiration.
So should myths, legends bemade about their life and death?
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Inspiration for, like, entertainment?
These kings, to me, aretextbook lore founder kings that
you could see in a novel that,like, the first kingdom that was
destroyed, you can kind of seethat, like, in the lore of, like,
a video game or a fantasy novel.
The other thing is, all ofthese kings are in the norse sagas,
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poems, or completely othergermanic myths and legends that they
don't exactly match theirhistorical character at all.
I couldn't.
If I could, I would havesynthesized them together with the
historical to make tell acomplete story.
But it's just far off.
Like, I can't even do that.
So they're kind of alreadylarger than life at a pretty early
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time in history.
An example of, like, what I'mtalking about.
Is our last king, Gunther, Gunter.
Gunter.
Met his death at Attila theHun's court, which is completely
different than Atis wiping about.
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Yeah, that makes it sound somuch cooler that he was, like, captured
by Attila.
However, I don't, basically,the way, it's like how you said at
the beginning, I see this as ablurb in a video game, a side note
in, like, a history book oreven a footnote.
This is something that, okay,this is how it got started, and it
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disappeared.
This isn't something that Iwould see that this is worthy to
be written more about thanjust a, this happened.
This is, you know, it happened.
Another gun.
It didn't last long enough forme to want to make something special
out of it other than just a ithappened, it's gone.
Oh, what were we talking about?
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Kind of thing.
The thing for me is thatthey're in the norse sagas, which
means something.
They were important enough toget into that.
So that's kind of.
I'll give them a single pointfor that.
I will give them a point forbeing a footnote in history because
there's something there.
And I will give them.
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I will give them four points,one for each king in the.
That they each made it in thenorse sagas.
So for a total of five points.
See, I'm being way moreconservative bardic inspiration than
royal power, and you're theopposite there.
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That's funny.
I mean, I'm more about, like,the story, and I'm like, if I can't,
like, write a story aboutthis, then for me, it's not worthwhile
because I like writing storiesas well, and I didn't see myself
enraptured by their tale.
Yeah, it could.
It could be.
I'm obsessed with thefootnotes of history, hence why I
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started this podcast doing alot of kingdoms that are the footnotes
of history.
That's exciting to me.
Like, I, last night, spent waytoo long looking into the kingdoms
before Aegon the conqueror's reign.
So that is a six for bardicinspiration legacy.
Did they bring their dynastyfrom the ashes or burn it to the
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ashes?
They did both.
They.
They united the realm, and itwas absolutely obliterated.
Um, the one good thing is onhis, on Gunther's specific line is
two of his sons, the princes,live through the complete destruction.
Otherwise horrible.
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Like God awful.
Yeah, that.
It's, it's okay.
I get.
It's like, oh, yeah, theybrought it up, but then they also
crashed and burned.
It's like a one hit wonder fora musical artiste.
It's great.
This song is amazing.
And then you hear nothing elsefrom them forever.
So, you know, it's like, itwas nice for the time, but it just
crashed and burned.
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And then you forget about themuntil you hear the song years later
and you're like, oh, yeah, Iknew about that song.
Or, hey, I heard about themthat one time, but, you know, they're
not that important or thatgood to actually keep producing things.
So I'm gonna give them a zero.
Wow.
Because they.
Because for me, it's the whole.
They rose up from the ashes,but they crashed and burned it.
And, you know, in onegeneration, here's the thing.
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We have modern day burgundyfrom these people, and it wouldn't
have happened without these.
This king uniting the tribes.
We have the first kingdom of Burgundy.
That's the issue.
So someone else made a second kingdom.
So.
And if that one stays for awhile, I'll give them that legacy
point.
However, I'm gonna go out forblood today and be like, no, they.
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If it crashed and burned andthey couldn't hold on to it, and
they have to wait for secondkingdom of Burgundy to come up from
the ashes.
And I will give that one pointbecause they brought it back.
I am going to give a one forthe simple fact that the line continues.
By the hair of their chinnychin chin, two princes survive.
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Alrighty, so that's a total ofone for legacy.
And are you ready for thetotal score, Michael?
Oh, boy.
This is a rough first go.
Let's hear it.
It's a total of eleven.
Oof.
That's going to be hard to beat.
In terms of bad, their bardic inspiration.
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Was their best score with a six.
Yeah, you're.
You're welcome.
First kingdom of Burgundians.
Well, Michael, I think it'stime for the all important question.
So, are these kings goodenough, exceptional enough, starting
kingdoms enough to be crownedas legendary kings?
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Are they just good enough toretire as lesser nobles?
Or were they so incompetentand we hate them that they need to
be burned at the stake?
Well, Michael, I think I knowhow I'm leaning.
Oh, Mandy, burn the witches atthe stake.
To me, burning at the stake isthe level of I hate you.
Um, I mean, yes.
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I don't hate these guys.
They did the best they could.
Like the coin flip already.
Do you have a D 20?
Um, I have so many D 20s.
Perfect.
Okay, so the question for youis, I have a witcher coin that is
two sided, so I have evenbetter the shining coin which has
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an axe on the back that I have.
Then I have a d.
A red D 20.
I have a necronomicon D 20.
Have a witcher D 20.
I have a glow in the dark D 20.
I have a red and black D 20.
I think I have, like, the red.
And black D 20.
It's a metal one, too.
Okay, so odds or evens?
Or do you want to do ten to 20?
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1110.
Yeah, one to 1010 to 20.
I mean, 1120.
All righty.
I called low end curse, my dear.
Good rolls.
What?
They get 13?
That's enough.
I am gonna say lesser kingbecause they.
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They did enough that I don'thate them.
I would have marked this as a.
This.
That is so funny.
It's our first episode thatit's that way.
To me, this.
The burning at the stake isyou have to have some level of incompetence.
I mean, they lost their kingdom.
I don't think that wasincompetent, though.
That was just running intoAetius, who is a.
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Not a footnote in history.
Ats could be an entire podcaston himself.
Like, he is an absolute wild character.
I mean, but, like, we wentthrough four people in less than
an hour.
However, the dice have spoken.
They are lesser nobles.
Congrats.
They can go retire, make itfrom land, go retire on estate, live
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out their lives.
You can pick up your kids fromthe wolves I sent them to.
So, Roberto, what have youbeen listening, consuming what recommendations
you got?
Has been something interestinghappening in a d and Da 20 campaign
or not a d and d 20 in a d andD campaign that you have going on.
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Oh, I'm in five D and D campaigns.
Let's go with it.
So I'm currently playing onebased off the darkest Dungeon series,
which is, like, an online gamethat's auditor.
And my character is a Hexbladewarlock, rogue assassin that's also
a dampier.
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So he could walk on walls and,like, upside down, and he doesn't
need to breathe or anything.
He's a bit broken.
But I do min Max.
But I love it because I roleplay my min maxing.
Oh, great.
Yeah.
So I.
I don't go for just, like.
I like the power builds, but Ialso do the role playing with it.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So we're currentlyinvestigating a whole series of fish
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people invading a current coastline.
And what I did was the wholeparty is like, we should probably
hide.
And I'm like, I want to hide.
I'm going to sneak with myelven cloak which is like the Lord
of the rings one.
We're like, it shades in andthen they saw us because we took
too long talking to each otherabout what to do.
And my teammates were like,don't run there.
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And I'm like, I want to run there.
So I ran really fast becauseI'm a rogue and I'm dampier of extra
speed so I can run 105ft in asingle turn.
And did that.
Got up to them and combatstarted and of course it was an ambush,
but we managed.
I ran out of spell slots inlike no time because I'm a warlock
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and we're like, we met withone of the, like the last main NPC's
to help, help us and we stopped.
But yeah, I'm a bit of a.
I'll just run in and do thingsbecause I'm like, I can hide.
It's fine.
I was like, oh, wait, no, I can't.
But like, oh, no, I took damage.
Bare my teeth, biting someone,drained their blood.
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Heal myself.
It's fine.
There you go.
Love it.
Alrighty.
How about you?
Pretty fun.
I am just gonna go ahead andsay I've been consuming House of
Dragon.
I love House of Dragon.
They have absolutely nailed it.
They just had a dragon fightthat was superb.
The dialogue is on top.
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It is just premium old Game ofThrones room dialogue, like, with
Tyrion and like, the Tywinconversations, like stuff like that.
It was just.
Every line written was just sowell done and it's just.
It's been really fun.
They've been doing anincredible job with taking a history
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book and turning it into a show.
So I will say I will watchHouse of the Dragons.
What's the finished sopranosin true blood and band of brothers.
There you go.
I will let you guys know.
It has been three years sinceI've seen both sopranos and true
blood, so I need to rewatch everything.
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You know, if I were to watchHouse of the dragon, I need to rewatch
Game of Thrones before that.
No, it's a prequel.
You don't need to watch that.
No, no, no.
I need to see how bad it gotjust to enjoy the goodness of House
of the dragon.
Okay, that's fair.
Just watch season eight andthen watch.
No, no.
The thing is, I watched thefirst four seasons and then I skipped
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to season six.
I kept watching from there.
I mean, season five wasn'tterrible, but it wasn't great either.
Basically, whenever they gotaway from the books, it was like,
well, well, I.
Started watching with theBattle of the Bastards.
So that was, uh oh, that was agreat episode.
I want I came into my parents watching.
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I'm like, oh, what's this?
Like, Jon Snow's back?
And I'm like, well, I guess Ihave to rewatch.
So that is awesome.
That brings us to the end ofGebica, Gundamar, gizzle hire and
Gunter.
Gunter, Gunter.
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Let us know what you thoughtof them.
Do you agree with me lettingthem live as lesser nobles, or are
you more like Roberto and youwant them to be burned at the stake
just because life is hard sometimes?
I mean, yes, they shouldshould have done better.
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Love the changes to thescaling system.
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Only thing I would like to seeis the older episode of kings to
be re ranked so we can do thatas a premium episode.
We don't have time to do it inthe regular show.
But as a premium episode, wecould probably speed through kingdoms
and kind of rank them based onthe new standing and see what Roberto
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thinks of these kings.
Let us know if you want to seethat happen.
Otherwise, I've got plentyother plans for it.
Next episode, we are going todiscover how the princes, gundiac
and kilperic handle thecomplete annihilation of their kingdom
and the death of their father.
And with that, the kings are dead.
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Long live the kingdom.
The Roman Empire is tearingitself apart.
Nightmares from the east areheading west.
In all this chaos rises a newburgundian kingdom.
This is the quest for power.
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Welcome to the quest forpower, where we are raiding and reviewing
all european monarchs from thecollapse of the western Roman Empire
to World War one.
I am Michael, and if youdidn't notice, I have a new co host
joining me today.
And that is Roberto from TsarPower and history of.
I cannot say it blank, Georgia.
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The history of Sacramento, Georgia.
Happy to be here, Michael.
Hey, everyone.
I hopped onto this podcast.
You can say it's a bit of an invasion.
Yes.
Yes, it definitely has.
I can't.
Can't thank you, Roberto,enough for helping me continue this.
This podcast was literally onthe brink of extinction, and I was
gonna have to do somethingcompletely different.
(01:18):
So I am very excited tocontinue this ambitious project that
I have set out.
Well, if there's one thing,it's that I'm addicted to podcasting.
So let's.
There you go.
Perfect.
Before we also forget, Ireally want to make sure I thank
Scott for helping me start all this.
I asked him out of the clearblue, and it was very more than enough
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that he helped me start thisambitious project, especially when
he heard probably what I saidis like, that's a long time, so I
get it.
Scott, you're awesome.
He definitely is.
Alrighty.
So kind of little backgroundthings of how we're going to continue
forward in writing this seasonand future seasons.
I have cut out quite a bit ofthe historical analysis, and I'm
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putting a much more intensefocus on the story itself, which
is a significant shift in thecurrent structure.
The reason I'm doing this isone the stories, to me, are the heart
of history.
That's kind of being takenaway as we keep getting more and
more down the line for moremodern historians, I've noticed,
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and I want to bring it backinto focus of what these people would
have felt like in their time.
So magic is real, dragons arereal, goblins, werewolves, witches,
because that is what they believed.
They are real.
Yeah, exactly.
In the most b's stories, thereis a kernel of truth, and often you
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completely miss that truth ifyou don't hear the story and you
just write it off.
So that's kind of the excusethat I give myself for and putting
in fantastical elements in thestory because I'm obsessed, obsessed
with fantasy.
In case everyone hasn'tnoticed by now, I am, too.
And I promise I'm gonna makeMichael watch the extended lord of
the Rings at one point in his life.
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Yeah, I've stopped middle ofthe similarian right now because
House of Dragon is on, and soGame of Thrones is everything right
now.
So here's the thing.
I've seen Game of Thrones.
I have not watched House of the.
Dragon so better than Game ofThrones, which is probably a hot
take, but I have reallyenjoyed what they have done with
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this show.
Here's the thing.
You have to get me to watchHouse of the dragon because I refuse
to until fire and blood parttwo is out.
You know, that's fair.
And like, we, I know we wantto do for premium episodes to like,
do the kings and queens ofWesteros, but at a certain point
we're going to hit theBlackfyre rebellion, which I think
is part two.
So we would have to do it andthen we'd have to stop in the middle.
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Can wait for George RR Martinto finish a book.
Yeah, exactly.
That's a joke.
It's been twelve years,actually 13 now.
Yeah.
I don't even know theBlackfyre rebellion, other than some
king legitimized all hisbastards right before he died, which.
That's a fantastic start tohis story, honestly.
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Yes.
Which is why I'm so excitedfor part two.
Alrighty.
So to help you kind of followalong with this new narrative, I'm
going to try and write thescript in terms of scenes.
These scenes, though, can spananywhere from a couple of minutes
of dialogue between hishistorical characters.
Two years at a time, if that'swhat it takes to kind of describe
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what's going on.
And then once our protagonistis killed off, we stop the narrative
and we go into the ratingportion of the podcast.
Since we're still a rexypodcast, like we, it must be done.
We will rate the kings, queensand other power players when they're
killed off.
As I have said, only if theyhave, like, enough information to
give them a rating.
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There are tons of kings andqueens where they're one line in
the Chronicle, and that is it.
Especially when we go toIreland, Scotland, England.
All of those early petty kings can't.
Wait for the Heptarchy.
Yes, if they have enoughinformation, we'll give them a rating
based on, of course, royal power.
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We will never get rid of that infamy.
And then instead of religiouspassion, we now have oath of devotion
because d and D bardicinspiration and legacy.
And like I said, more the truth.
It's about the 80 20 rule.
Certain episodes, 80% of thefacts are true, 20% is false.
It's up to you to decide whichone and others.
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It's going to be 20% true, 80% false.
I will give you the bestinformation that I can get from the
sources at the time.
But the sources at the timeare awful and they have their own
agendas that they're setting.
Are you telling me that thechroniclers like to lie about stuff?
I know, I know.
Especially this one historianI constantly get in fights with.
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You might know him as Greg.
Wait, Gregory of tours?
Yes.
That man can slander.
In this season, season five ofthe Burgundians.
I will get in a fight with Greg.
So you can look forward to that.
I can't wait because I knownothing about other than that he's
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just a bit of a jerk, a bit ofa bastard, just so to say.
I hate him so much.
I, but I love him because itgives us all of this rich information
that we wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
Oh, also, but people think Imay be not a good audience member
because I do history research.
I do eastern european history.
So, uh, you know, if it'spast, like the Balkans and like the
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Czech Republic, I'm out.
So it'll be fun.
That's good.
That, that's, that's not my forte.
So when we get over there, ifwe ever get over there, that we'll
have to really, really be onmy game then.
All right, before we begin, Ihave to catch up with some podcasts
that have given their promosfor us.
And the first one we're goingto start with is autocrat.
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They are a great podcast topair with ours.
They go through the entiretyof roman history all the way back
from mythical creation likethey do the greek myths as like the
roman style and they end allthe way at the fall of Constantinople.
So they are ambitious and acompletionist after my own heart.
I like that.
I should listen to them.
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You really should.
They're really fun.
And so without further ado.
Hello.
Hello and welcome to autocrats.
I am Vince, one of the co hosts.
And so what is autocrat?
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Well, we are a podcast that isgoing to be going through the entire
journey of roman civilization essentially.
That sounds nice.
So roman civilization, whatdoes that mean?
Well, we are going to be goingfrom greek mythology, the kingdom
of Alba Longa.
What is that?
Alba longa?
Yeah, it's basically the statethat came before the roman kingdom.
Oh, cool, cool, cool.
And then the roman kingdom.
Yes, the roman kingdom.
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The Republic.
Then going through, you know,empire, what we call Byzantium.
But shouldn't we'll get tothat, listeners, all the way to Constantine
Xi and beyond.
So if that sounds likesomething you'd be interested in,
feel free to come and join us.
We can be found on places suchas Spotify, YouTube, under the Handle
autocrat podcast, on ourwebsite at www.
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Dot autocratpodcast, dotworldpress.com, or on TikTok, where
we upload a few shorts.
We hope to see you there.
Our very first king.
We're gonna jump right into it.
Of the first kingdom of theBurgundians is Gyuki.
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I'm going to call him Gabaka,which is one of the number of spellings
I.
This original spelling is G ju k I.
Yucky, yucky, yucky.
I'm going with Gebica becauseI like that so much better.
Wasn't he yucky, though?
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I don't know.
I thought, he's fine.
Spoilers.
The problem with Gebica is hemight not have existed.
I'm gonna say in the quest forpower canon that he is our first
king of the Burgundians, andtherefore we don't have a beginning
date to his reign.
There is no idea.
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We do know that this kingunited several separate Burgundy
tribes under one banner.
And I'm guessing it's througha combination of marriage and conquest
as most.
What happens when you knightand tribe together.
That makes sense to me.
So that's.
Yeah, he did something wedon't know.
Yeah, exactly.
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We're in that time of a blackhole of information.
Speaking of that time, hecurrently rules a piece of land on
the right bank of the Rhine river.
They weren't really clear onwhere the right bank is.
I'm gonna guess somewhere in Germany.
They're not quite in modernday burgundy yet, so.
Okay, that's interesting.
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During this time of rule in395, King Alaric was raised on a
shield in defiance of the Romans.
So we have that going on whilethis guy comes to rule.
I heard he was pretty great.
Yeah, he was pretty solid.
He's definitely my favoriteVisigoth so far.
Hands down.
Uric was fun, but Alaric, whojust made life hell for the Romans,
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was a good time.
We know that Gebbica had sexat least three times with a woman
in his life because he is saidto have fathered three sons named
Gundamar, Gehizer and Gunther.
Gunther.
Gunter.
Thank you, Gunter.
Gunter.
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In 406, he decided that nowwould be a good time to invade the
western empire.
Basically, the western empireis collapsing in on itself.
They're constantly infighting, and I'm pretty confident
this is with a bunch of otherbarbarians that they're coming across.
And then he, in 407, he caughtthe deadly case of no longer existing
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in late antiquity and died.
Oh, well.
Do we rank him already?
We're gonna continue.
What we're gonna do is we'regonna do all of the kings together,
because now you see whythere's not much to go off of.
So what we know so far is hesomehow united the tribes.
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Yep.
He had sex at least three times.
Correct.
He lived somewhere near the Rhine.
Right bank of the Rhine.
And he died.
He, uh, invaded Rome.
He invaded Rome, then he died.
Correct.
How did he die?
Sickness or.
I don't know.
Come up with it.
What do you think?
Oh, he drank from the wrongbottle of wine.
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Perfect.
It was actually the one thathad gone sour.
He hated it so much.
Threw up to death.
Yeah.
Oh, that's.
That's not a good way to go.
Well, that's quest for powercannon now.
So we had a scold next.
You know how to skull andcrossbones on it for some reason,
but, you know, whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
He.
He can't read.
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It's fine.
Yeah.
Can't look at pictures either, apparently.
Yes.
So that is the life and reignof Gevica of House Burgundy, the
first of his name, king of the Burgundians.
Like I said, normally, thatwould be the most anticlimactic episode.
And it's over, and it's like,why would you even bother?
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We're gonna continue.
Womp womp.
Once the mythical king Gebbaqadies in 407, his three sons become
the kings of the Burgundians.
This is based on a heroictradition of several kings ruling
together at the same time.
They each have their ownarmies, but it's like they rule as
a confederation of kings.
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It is not what Gregory oftours thinks it is.
He thinks that it is threeseparate kingdoms.
It's not that at all.
They do think.
Only the Franks do stupidstuff like that.
They rule it together, but asa confederation.
Okay, so it's not like they'redoing gavelkin, where it's like,
you separate your territoriesamongst your kids.
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Correct.
They get their.
They get their armies, theyget land, but they the angles altogether.
Correct.
Yeah.
So, like, they each have,like, their own, as we'll learn later
on, they each have, like,their own power base from specific
cities or towns that they're in.
And that's the most kingdom,like, separate kingdoms that they
get.
And there is.
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The older brother will get themore powerful city, because there's
still kind of primogeniture in it.
But it's not like anythingthat is normal.
It's actually normal, I think,in the sagas.
I don't know for sure.
I don't know the sagas that well.
I need to, but it's calledheroic tradition.
From what I could gather, the roost.
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Kind of do the same thing.
Actually, they do.
They have those.
They have a set of lands wherehere's the most important one, the
eldest gets it, then here'sthe lesser cities and all that, but.
Sorry, I should stop.
But it's just something similar.
But they still fight for eachother, so.
Correct.
I'm so expecting the threebrothers or the three burgundian
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tears to do that today.
Just fight against each otherto get land.
Yeah, yeah, we'll.
We'll have to see.
Oh.
So while this is going on, myfavorite visigothic king, Alaric,
is being an absolute royalpain in the ass to the east and the
west, roman empires.
And speaking of Romans, thethree Burgundians kings allied themselves
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with the Suebi, the Vandals,and the Alans, forming what I will
call the germanic alliance.
The Alans.
The Alani, if you want to sayit correct.
Oh, no.
I.
I was thinking, there's abunch of guys named Alan now.
That is what Totalis Rankium.
I know.
He's like, yeah, there's Alan.
But now.
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But now that I'm in thisscene, I'm like, yeah, this is what
I'm seeing now.
I'm like, great.
That's all I hear.
It's like, oh, there's a bunchof guys named Alan in a tribe.
Yeah, sorry, the Alani.
I'll be better.
No, no, it's funny.
You just say Alan's.
I'm sorry.
One of these kings in thealliance is our previous Vandal,
king, Gundarek, who is thefather of Geyser the cruel.
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So our kingdoms are startingto form together already and interlock,
which is the one main reason Idid the podcast this way.
So I really find that fascinating.
Yeah, everything's starting tomesh together, you see, like, oh,
yeah, I've heard about the vandals.
I've heard about these guys.
Oh, everyone's coming together now.
Oh, the storylines are converging.
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Yeah.
And you start to get a moreclear picture.
Every king you continue into,you're like, oh, so that's why they
did that.
And then all that makes sense.
Nothing's in a vacuum, butit's hard to tell a story without
some sort of vacuum andcutting stuff out.
The Germans were quite awarehow vulnerable Rome frontier forces
were, so they seized the opportunity.
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They attacked defense, andthey absolutely steamrolled their
way through what were calledborders of the Rhineland.
But let's face it, they werestruggling at best to hold the line.
You can't contain me.
Yeah, exactly.
The thing is, invading is one thing.
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It is a whole other thing tohold conquered lands.
And in order to do this, thealliance had to now engage in this
psychotic mess of the roman politics.
So they had to get themselvesinvolved into this disaster.
I wouldn't touch that with aten foot pole during this.
No, no.
I would have been like, no,I'm good.
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I'm.
No, I want to sit here.
Just.
Just give me the money.
I'll leave.
Oh, you have nothing?
Damn.
Yeah, that was probably.
They were like, well, youdon't got anything?
Damn it.
Does the east have anything?
Yeah.
The three brothers put supportbehind a roman gallic aristocrat
named Jovian or Jovinus in hisbid as emperor.
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This was over in Gaul.
He was a gallic aristocrat, so he.
I think this was also duringAlaric's episode.
If not, it was Atolf'sepisode, when jovian kind of came
into the picture.
Mm hmm.
In exchange for their support,Jovian granted the Burgundians the
land around the modern day city.
Worms in Germany.
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Is that how you say it?
It's spelled worms.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Forms in Germany.
Almost a bit of a language nerd.
Guys, I'm sorry.
No, perfect.
That I have.
I stumble across so manydifferent languages in this.
So.
No, that's great.
It is at this point in theconfederation of the Burgundians,
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now known as the kingdom of Worms.
In 411, one of the kings,Gundamore, falls victim to this thing
known as death.
How did he die, Michael?
I'm going to say in the questfor power cannon that he was cut
down in battle while fightingalongside the pretender Jovinus.
There is no evidence to backthat up.
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It is just covered in wormswith the time.
Yes.
So that is the life and reignof Gundamar of House Burgundy, the
first of his name, king of Worms.
Literally.
Now, two to go.
Man, this is going by quick.
Yeah, it is.
The two remaining burgundiankingdoms continue the fight on the
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side of the pretender emperorJovinus in southern Gaul.
However, in 413, Jovenus wasdefeated, and his head was sent to
honoris to be displayed in Ravenna.
Wow, that's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I always wonder.
He was all the way in gall, right?
How do you keep the head,like, from rotting away in that trip
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from gall all the way to Ravenna?
Probably ice from the mountains.
Oh, I guess I could see that.
Yeah, they go through the alps.
Okay.
You know what they say, don'tlose your head.
Hey, where is it?
That reminds me of the don'tlose your head song from six, the
musical about King Henry's wives.
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I've never.
King Henry the 8th.
Oh, it is so good.
I love it so much.
I listen to it all the time.
You would think that being onthe losing side of a war, especially
with the Romans, is going tospell disaster for the Burgundians.
And normally you'd be correct.
They generally don't.
They're pretty unkind to people.
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They would consider helpingusurpers and things like that out.
But the Romans have enoughinternal problems right now that
they can't afford to deal withthe burgundian kingdom.
Hey, that guy just won a battle.
Let's make him emperor.
Exactly.
They're dealing with thatissue right now.
So a treaty is being drawn upbetween the house of Burgundy and
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the western roman empire.
The Burgundians were allowedto exist.
Exist on the land given tothem by Jovenus in return for essentially
becoming the foedorati or aroman vassal state, is the way I
would basically say what they are.
Confederation thing.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then around the year 430,terrifying news was coming from the
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east.
There was a force ofunstoppable onslaught of death and
destruction that was headedtheir way.
Refugees carried stories thatwere the stuff of nightmares.
Entire cities were ravaged,burned and wiped from existence.
Men were being slaughtered inthe streets while these hunnic beasts
forced themselves upon thewomen and the girls before they were
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chained and sold into slavery.
Oh, no, that's terrifying.
Yeah.
This destructive force knownas the Huns is actually what inspired
the army of the dead in Gameof Thrones.
I believe I talked about thisin Attila the Huns episode, but Dothraki
Horde?
Yeah.
No, not the Dothraki horde.
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That's the Mongols.
This is the army of the dead.
And Attila being the Night king.
Oh, now I get it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Think about it with.
So the reason that is so muchis much like the wild folk in Game
of Thrones, the Burgundiansand all of those other germanic tribes
are getting intense pressurefrom the Huns that are displacing
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just massive swaths of population.
And as a result, they have toeither try and kill Romans and take
their land or be wiped out bythis oncoming Horde.
Yeah, okay, I get that now.
So a title of the Hun iscausing some issues and making people
move, and that's causing issues.
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The romance is like, who arethese barbarians?
We're fleeing from a biggerperson that we're more scared of
than you.
So get out of the way.
This is my house now.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And what really sucks for alot of these germanic kingdoms is
they're in no man's land.
They're between thisunstoppable force that is coming
at them and this unmovableobject that is kind of starting to
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crack of the roman empire.
But that would just be aterrifying position to be in.
Yeah, I can see.
And I can see who are thehedge by bets on, like, oh, this
guy's actually winning.
And we've actually won a fewbattles and they have issues.
Let's go to the Romans becauseat least we can get them to deal
with us.
Yeah, exactly.
They're not actively burningeverything down other than themselves.
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Yeah, they.
They had their heyday andburning everything down.
They're.
They're done with that now.
Unfortunately for the Romans,they did not have a magical ice wall
that kept out unnatural forces.
So in order to get the hellout of the way of this oncoming storm,
the Burgundians attacked theroman province and Belisia Prima,
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which is the land aroundmodern day trier in Germany.
So in 435, the Burgundianswere defeated in battle by an actual
competent roman general named Aetius.
Pretty rare.
Was he made emperor, too?
No, and I believe it's becausehe is part germanic and therefore
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roman enough.
And he is.
I don't think he's quite thepower behind the throne, but he's
damn close.
I don't think it's quite yetthat that's around.
He might have been, but stilla call.
Still was okay for during,during Alaric's time, but he was
killed during Alex reign.
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We're way past Alaric now.
We're in atolf time.
I think it's 435.
I don't have my map up, but.
So best boy Silico is dead.
Actually, during around thistime in 435, we have Theodoric the
first.
He.
I don't remember what we didwith him.
I'm pretty confident he wasjust a standard king because I don't
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remember hating him and Idon't remember loving him.
I don't remember either.
I just did all the episodesand it was just a lot all at once.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, Iretained, like, the cool bits, but
now I remember what therankings were.
Yeah, that was over a year agofor me, so I just barely.
He was.
He was fine.
Even though, again, this isnot confirmed.
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I'm going to go ahead and saythe quest for power cannon records
that the burgundian kingGeisler was slain in battle.
He got impaled by a spear andthen got his head crushed by a horse.
I love it.
Perfect.
I'm a very gruesome person.
I.
We're gonna do a lot ofgruesome things in this podcast,
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so that's good.
History is unkind.
That is the life and reign ofGeisler of House Burgundy, the first
of his name, king of worms.
Alrighty, we have one kingremaining game.
Gunter.
Gunther.
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Gunter, Gunter.
Give you an idea of what theRomans are dealing with at this point
in history.
The vandal king, Geysrich thecruel, one of my favorite kings we
have ever done, is being anabsolute menace in northern africa
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right now.
And Theodorek the first, hey,I have it on here on my notes, is
constantly waging war on andagain and off again with the Romans.
So I'm just letting you knowthat I'm imagining this king as a
penguin because of adventure time.
So Gunter is just.
The king of Worms is just apenguin from adventure time to me,
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I.
Guess he eats birds.
I mean, he's a bird, so hecould eat worms, even though penguins
I don't think do, but fish,because it's.
Gonna be worm like wormints ofthe sea.
Mm hmm.
Certain ones.
We know that Gunther had sexat least twice in his life with a
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woman since he father two sonsthat are named Gundiak and Kilbrick.
During some point in his life.
In 436, Gunther was made awarethat he had some unwanted guests.
Roman general, atheists, waslike, I'm back.
Except he had.
Except he had a bunch ofhunnic mercenaries with them.
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The roman force attackedGunther's forces with cold vengeance
and obliterated the burgundian kingdom.
Gunther and many Burgundianswere slain in the vicious assault.
It was borderline genocide.
That is the end of the shortlylived kingdom of Worms and the tragic
reign of Gunther of HouseBurgundy, the first of his name.
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King of Worms.
No, not the penguin I know.
So.
But first of his name.
So there could be other ones.
There could be.
Okay, so that's, uh, that'swhat we have.
I will say that we are notdone with the Burgundians.
Two princes that we mentionedthat he fathered somehow survived.
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Somehow, somehow.
Somehow their mom took theminto, like, a small cave and fed
them to the wolves.
Wait.
Yeah, there you go.
No, not.
The wolves fed them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The wolves fed them and nursedthem to health.
All right, are you ready torank all four of these guys at once?
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We're completely breaking withrexy tradition on your first episode.
So are you ready to rank anentire kingdom in day one?
I'm ready.
Alrighty.
Royal power.
How well did they acquire,wield, and maintain power?
How long do you think thisfirst kingdom of the Burgundians
lasted?
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At least, I'd say around 30 years.
Holy crap.
So we don't know exactly whenGabaka formed the kingdom, but he
died around 407.
Gunther was slain in 437, so30 plus years.
Hey.
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Love it for the good intention works.
It does.
Gebika united several smaller,separate kingdoms under one banner.
They seized the opportunity toestablish themselves as a vassal
kingdom within the empire, andthey were able to kind of hold their
own against Rome for a time.
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Yes, Rome was tearing itselfapart, but that's still pretty good.
Rome has still got aformidable army.
Like, we can't understate that enough.
Like, Rome is just theirlogistics are always superior, and
logistics are what win wars.
They're the.
Still the big kid on the block.
They may be having a bunch ofissues, but, like, you mess with
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Rome, and especially as asmaller nation, so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They're struggling.
I can do some.
I can put in some pot shots,but if they pay attention to me,
I'm fucking screwed.
Yeah.
Chris Ford.
There you go.
You can say all the ones you want.
Yeah.
So I can see there's, like,some good having lasted that long.
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But they did get crushed atthe end.
I was gonna say the bad.
They were pushed around likeeveryone else by the Huns, so they
had no agency there, and theygot absolutely annihilated.
Obliterated.
There's nothing left by the Romans.
Yeah, it's.
It's nothing good.
And we don't really have muchinformation for, like, what they
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did, because all I kepthearing is like, yeah, they built
something up, and then they got.
They got destroyed.
They got destroyed.
They got destroyed.
I'm like, oh, not a fun time.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it was not the strongestof starts for the kingdom.
Mm hmm.
But, yeah, so I get it.
So I think I'm gonna give him,like, a three.
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Three.
Because it's like you said,the kingdom was destroyed after this,
right?
No, two princes.
Yeah, yeah.
This is called.
Yeah, but this kingdom iscalled the first kingdom of the Burgundians.
This season is the burgundian kingdoms.
Oh, plural, plural, plural, plural.
Okay, so I get that now.
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So because the kingdom isgone, it's.
Yes, there's nothing left.
So I'm giving them a point forbuilding up the kingdom from, like,
a bunch of small tribes,getting them together.
Yeah.
You know, another point fordoing the Federati thing with the
Romans, because that's a smartplay to survive and get.
And it opens up trade with theRomans and then, you know, an extra
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point just because it's thefirst kingdom of the federal.
And, um.
But they got their asses wipedby the.
By the Romans and the Huns.
So then I get too much morefor me.
Yeah, the bad's really bad,and the good is.
It's solid.
Oh, so you said three?
Yeah.
I can feel like you're gettingeven lower.
I'm gonna be harsh.
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I'm going one.
Okay, that's fine.
You know, that's a four forroyal power.
Infamy.
What are they infamous for?
It doesn't have to be true or not.
I haven't come across anythingthat I would deem infamous.
Did you see anything?
I don't know.
Zero.
Zero?
That's a zero for infamy.
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Oath of devotion.
How devoted were they to their faith?
They were just trying tosurvive while the world around them
is going to hell.
There's no time for devotionto the church.
I will say there is a solidchance that they are nicene christians.
We don't know for sure, butthere's a solid chance.
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I mean, but we don't know.
So they also could be aryan christians.
Oh, heretics.
Oh, no.
They could be either or.
And there's, we don't know.
Zero for me.
Yeah, zero.
Oathbreaker bardic inspiration.
So should myths, legends bemade about their life and death?
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Inspiration for, like, entertainment?
These kings, to me, aretextbook lore founder kings that
you could see in a novel that,like, the first kingdom that was
destroyed, you can kind of seethat, like, in the lore of, like,
a video game or a fantasy novel.
The other thing is, all ofthese kings are in the norse sagas,
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poems, or completely othergermanic myths and legends that they
don't exactly match theirhistorical character at all.
I couldn't.
If I could, I would havesynthesized them together with the
historical to make tell acomplete story.
But it's just far off.
Like, I can't even do that.
So they're kind of alreadylarger than life at a pretty early
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time in history.
An example of, like, what I'mtalking about.
Is our last king, Gunther, Gunter.
Gunter.
Met his death at Attila theHun's court, which is completely
different than Atis wiping about.
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Yeah, that makes it sound somuch cooler that he was, like, captured
by Attila.
However, I don't, basically,the way, it's like how you said at
the beginning, I see this as ablurb in a video game, a side note
in, like, a history book oreven a footnote.
This is something that, okay,this is how it got started, and it
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disappeared.
This isn't something that Iwould see that this is worthy to
be written more about thanjust a, this happened.
This is, you know, it happened.
Another gun.
It didn't last long enough forme to want to make something special
out of it other than just a ithappened, it's gone.
Oh, what were we talking about?
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Kind of thing.
The thing for me is thatthey're in the norse sagas, which
means something.
They were important enough toget into that.
So that's kind of.
I'll give them a single pointfor that.
I will give them a point forbeing a footnote in history because
there's something there.
And I will give them.
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I will give them four points,one for each king in the.
That they each made it in thenorse sagas.
So for a total of five points.
See, I'm being way moreconservative bardic inspiration than
royal power, and you're theopposite there.
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That's funny.
I mean, I'm more about, like,the story, and I'm like, if I can't,
like, write a story aboutthis, then for me, it's not worthwhile
because I like writing storiesas well, and I didn't see myself
enraptured by their tale.
Yeah, it could.
It could be.
I'm obsessed with thefootnotes of history, hence why I
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started this podcast doing alot of kingdoms that are the footnotes
of history.
That's exciting to me.
Like, I, last night, spent waytoo long looking into the kingdoms
before Aegon the conqueror's reign.
So that is a six for bardicinspiration legacy.
Did they bring their dynastyfrom the ashes or burn it to the
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ashes?
They did both.
They.
They united the realm, and itwas absolutely obliterated.
Um, the one good thing is onhis, on Gunther's specific line is
two of his sons, the princes,live through the complete destruction.
Otherwise horrible.
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Like God awful.
Yeah, that.
It's, it's okay.
I get.
It's like, oh, yeah, theybrought it up, but then they also
crashed and burned.
It's like a one hit wonder fora musical artiste.
It's great.
This song is amazing.
And then you hear nothing elsefrom them forever.
So, you know, it's like, itwas nice for the time, but it just
crashed and burned.
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And then you forget about themuntil you hear the song years later
and you're like, oh, yeah, Iknew about that song.
Or, hey, I heard about themthat one time, but, you know, they're
not that important or thatgood to actually keep producing things.
So I'm gonna give them a zero.
Wow.
Because they.
Because for me, it's the whole.
They rose up from the ashes,but they crashed and burned it.
And, you know, in onegeneration, here's the thing.
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We have modern day burgundyfrom these people, and it wouldn't
have happened without these.
This king uniting the tribes.
We have the first kingdom of Burgundy.
That's the issue.
So someone else made a second kingdom.
So.
And if that one stays for awhile, I'll give them that legacy
point.
However, I'm gonna go out forblood today and be like, no, they.
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If it crashed and burned andthey couldn't hold on to it, and
they have to wait for secondkingdom of Burgundy to come up from
the ashes.
And I will give that one pointbecause they brought it back.
I am going to give a one forthe simple fact that the line continues.
By the hair of their chinnychin chin, two princes survive.
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Alrighty, so that's a total ofone for legacy.
And are you ready for thetotal score, Michael?
Oh, boy.
This is a rough first go.
Let's hear it.
It's a total of eleven.
Oof.
That's going to be hard to beat.
In terms of bad, their bardic inspiration.
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Was their best score with a six.
Yeah, you're.
You're welcome.
First kingdom of Burgundians.
Well, Michael, I think it'stime for the all important question.
So, are these kings goodenough, exceptional enough, starting
kingdoms enough to be crownedas legendary kings?
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Are they just good enough toretire as lesser nobles?
Or were they so incompetentand we hate them that they need to
be burned at the stake?
Well, Michael, I think I knowhow I'm leaning.
Oh, Mandy, burn the witches atthe stake.
To me, burning at the stake isthe level of I hate you.
Um, I mean, yes.
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I don't hate these guys.
They did the best they could.
Like the coin flip already.
Do you have a D 20?
Um, I have so many D 20s.
Perfect.
Okay, so the question for youis, I have a witcher coin that is
two sided, so I have evenbetter the shining coin which has
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an axe on the back that I have.
Then I have a d.
A red D 20.
I have a necronomicon D 20.
Have a witcher D 20.
I have a glow in the dark D 20.
I have a red and black D 20.
I think I have, like, the red.
And black D 20.
It's a metal one, too.
Okay, so odds or evens?
Or do you want to do ten to 20?
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1110.
Yeah, one to 1010 to 20.
I mean, 1120.
All righty.
I called low end curse, my dear.
Good rolls.
What?
They get 13?
That's enough.
I am gonna say lesser kingbecause they.
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They did enough that I don'thate them.
I would have marked this as a.
This.
That is so funny.
It's our first episode thatit's that way.
To me, this.
The burning at the stake isyou have to have some level of incompetence.
I mean, they lost their kingdom.
I don't think that wasincompetent, though.
That was just running intoAetius, who is a.
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Not a footnote in history.
Ats could be an entire podcaston himself.
Like, he is an absolute wild character.
I mean, but, like, we wentthrough four people in less than
an hour.
However, the dice have spoken.
They are lesser nobles.
Congrats.
They can go retire, make itfrom land, go retire on estate, live
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out their lives.
You can pick up your kids fromthe wolves I sent them to.
So, Roberto, what have youbeen listening, consuming what recommendations
you got?
Has been something interestinghappening in a d and Da 20 campaign
or not a d and d 20 in a d andD campaign that you have going on.
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Oh, I'm in five D and D campaigns.
Let's go with it.
So I'm currently playing onebased off the darkest Dungeon series,
which is, like, an online gamethat's auditor.
And my character is a Hexbladewarlock, rogue assassin that's also
a dampier.
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So he could walk on walls and,like, upside down, and he doesn't
need to breathe or anything.
He's a bit broken.
But I do min Max.
But I love it because I roleplay my min maxing.
Oh, great.
Yeah.
So I.
I don't go for just, like.
I like the power builds, but Ialso do the role playing with it.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So we're currentlyinvestigating a whole series of fish
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people invading a current coastline.
And what I did was the wholeparty is like, we should probably
hide.
And I'm like, I want to hide.
I'm going to sneak with myelven cloak which is like the Lord
of the rings one.
We're like, it shades in andthen they saw us because we took
too long talking to each otherabout what to do.
And my teammates were like,don't run there.
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And I'm like, I want to run there.
So I ran really fast becauseI'm a rogue and I'm dampier of extra
speed so I can run 105ft in asingle turn.
And did that.
Got up to them and combatstarted and of course it was an ambush,
but we managed.
I ran out of spell slots inlike no time because I'm a warlock
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and we're like, we met withone of the, like the last main NPC's
to help, help us and we stopped.
But yeah, I'm a bit of a.
I'll just run in and do thingsbecause I'm like, I can hide.
It's fine.
I was like, oh, wait, no, I can't.
But like, oh, no, I took damage.
Bare my teeth, biting someone,drained their blood.
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Heal myself.
It's fine.
There you go.
Love it.
Alrighty.
How about you?
Pretty fun.
I am just gonna go ahead andsay I've been consuming House of
Dragon.
I love House of Dragon.
They have absolutely nailed it.
They just had a dragon fightthat was superb.
The dialogue is on top.
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It is just premium old Game ofThrones room dialogue, like, with
Tyrion and like, the Tywinconversations, like stuff like that.
It was just.
Every line written was just sowell done and it's just.
It's been really fun.
They've been doing anincredible job with taking a history
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book and turning it into a show.
So I will say I will watchHouse of the Dragons.
What's the finished sopranosin true blood and band of brothers.
There you go.
I will let you guys know.
It has been three years sinceI've seen both sopranos and true
blood, so I need to rewatch everything.
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You know, if I were to watchHouse of the dragon, I need to rewatch
Game of Thrones before that.
No, it's a prequel.
You don't need to watch that.
No, no, no.
I need to see how bad it gotjust to enjoy the goodness of House
of the dragon.
Okay, that's fair.
Just watch season eight andthen watch.
No, no.
The thing is, I watched thefirst four seasons and then I skipped
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to season six.
I kept watching from there.
I mean, season five wasn'tterrible, but it wasn't great either.
Basically, whenever they gotaway from the books, it was like,
well, well, I.
Started watching with theBattle of the Bastards.
So that was, uh oh, that was agreat episode.
I want I came into my parents watching.
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I'm like, oh, what's this?
Like, Jon Snow's back?
And I'm like, well, I guess Ihave to rewatch.
So that is awesome.
That brings us to the end ofGebica, Gundamar, gizzle hire and
Gunter.
Gunter, Gunter.
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Let us know what you thoughtof them.
Do you agree with me lettingthem live as lesser nobles, or are
you more like Roberto and youwant them to be burned at the stake
just because life is hard sometimes?
I mean, yes, they shouldshould have done better.
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Pick your allies better, man.
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Giving us a five star reviewon your podcatcher of choice or just
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We will read every five starreview that is on pod Chaser.
It is the best way for me tokind of see the reviews so I will
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be able to stay better on topof it.
And I'm going to start all theway back at one because I don't remember
where I last landed.
So I'm going to say thank youto jdeheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheh.
48 305 who wrote back to usall the way in March of 2023.
He said an excellent podcast.
Love the changes to thescaling system.
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Only thing I would like to seeis the older episode of kings to
be re ranked so we can do thatas a premium episode.
We don't have time to do it inthe regular show.
But as a premium episode, wecould probably speed through kingdoms
and kind of rank them based onthe new standing and see what Roberto
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thinks of these kings.
Let us know if you want to seethat happen.
Otherwise, I've got plentyother plans for it.
Next episode, we are going todiscover how the princes, gundiac
and kilperic handle thecomplete annihilation of their kingdom
and the death of their father.
And with that, the kings are dead.
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Long live the kingdom.
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