January 28, 2025 • 24 mins
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The episode explores the distinctiveness of the Ignite Conference for young adults, highlighting its focus on identity, community, and mission. Through the experiences of the hosts and guests, listeners are encouraged to invite others to join and participate in this transformative journey.
Ignite Conference
February 22, 2005 at St. Ignatius High School
Doors open at 8AM
Eucharistic Procession and Mass at St. Patrick's on Bridge Ave. at 4:30PM
Speakers:
Jackie Angel
Fr. Patrick Schultz
Sr. Mercedes Torres, OP
Episode Highlights
• Discussion on the uniqueness of the Ignite conference for young adults
• Importance of identity in Christ for spiritual growth
• Building a supportive community among young adults
• Emphasis on outreach and mission for living out one's faith
• Overview of the dynamic schedule and key speakers for the conference
• Invitation to attendees to bring others who are seeking a faith community
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's Question of Faith.
Are all young adult conferencesthe same?
Hey everybody, this is Questionof Faith.
I am Deacon Mike Hayes.
I'm the Director of Young AdultMinistry here in the Diocese of
Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And I'm Fr Damian Ferencz, the Vicar for
Evangelization.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I'm Joe Vacario and I am the co-founder of Catching
Fire Young Adult Ministry andthe and the co-founder of Ignite
Catholic In-N-Out Conference.
Wonderful to have you back, joe.
I'm happy to be here.
It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm so happy to be here, we could edit this out,
but isn't it true that since thelast time you were on the show,
you became engaged?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well, I'm actually married now.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh, you're married.
I'm't know Congratulations.
How's that going?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's great Phenomenal .
What date did you get married?
October 5th, St Faustina'sFeast Day.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Wonderful In the wonderful state of South
Carolina.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, charleston, south Carolina, it's St John the
Baptist Cathedral.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh, very cool.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Is that where?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So her family is from Charleston Well, not from
Charleston.
She's from, originally,columbus, and then her family
moved to Charleston area.
But there's a whole back story.
There was a miracle with herfamily that occurred at that
cathedral on Easter years prior,and so that was a large reason
why we went back.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Very cool, you've got to say a little more about that
now.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
So her family.
They weren't originallyplanning to go to Easter Mass at
the cathedral that day andSophia wasn't even there.
She was in Ohio at Universityof Cincinnati, and it just so
happened that every part of herfamily started to went to this
mass at the cathedral and it'slike 45 minutes away from their
home for Easter Mass a few yearsago and her dad had a
(01:43):
widowmaker heart attack.
I don't know if you knowanything about that.
Well, it's self-descriptive.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
If you have a widowmaker, you're supposed to
die.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You die on the spot.
Your heart stops.
There's no signs or symptoms.
And he did.
He just died and everyone wasfreaking out.
He was dead, I think, for sevenor eight minutes before they
got the AED on the scene broughthim back to life.
But it was a miracle justbecause they weren't even
originally planning to go to thecathedral for mass, and if they
(02:12):
were back at home or anywherenear home they wouldn't have
been able to have himresurrected.
And then there was a doctorthere, apparently on scene, that
they still to this day can'tfind.
That helped out a ton.
That's very cool on scene.
That they still to this daycan't find that helped out a ton
.
That's very cool, so, yeah, soit really is a huge reason, I
think, why he's here today andwhy we wanted to get married
there.
That's a great story.
Yeah, I didn't know?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, cool, I didn't know that one either.
That's great.
Yeah, it was incredible, Ithink you know a guy.
You know a guy engaged.
I just haven't seen you in awhile.
That's appropriate.
That's appropriate Newlyweds,All right.
So how about the?
So the question of the day isare all young adult conferences
(02:53):
the same?
Just recently there was the bigseek.
It was in Utah and in DC.
There's a young adultconference, or a few of them,
down in Damascus.
That happened from time to time.
But here you are the co-founderof our own Young Adult
Conference and we should saythis too.
Up until very recently, we didnot have a director of young
adult ministry in the Diocese ofCleveland.
(03:14):
In fact, Deacon Mike Hayes isthe first correct.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Correct, you are the first.
Yes, you are.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And so he's been collaborating with you and a lot
of these other young adultleaders to do new and exciting
things, and one of these new andexciting things is a young
adult conference that happensevery other year, correct?
So this is the second one andwhat makes it different than the
others.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, that's a great question, Father.
This whole thing from the verybeginning, before Deacon Mike
showed up, it was just acoalition of random young adult
leaders throughout the diocesethat just kind of happened to be
together in different areas andhappen to know each other.
Having Deacon Mike show up onthe scene, it just really
allowed us to all coalesce ontoone specific mission within the
diocese, which really helped outa lot.
(04:00):
And I think one of the thingsthat really spoke to our hearts
was specifically forspecifically for Ignite was
because there's this like weirdsplit between, once you get out,
like college age kids that are,I shouldn't say kids anymore,
they're adults.
With the college age youngadults that are there, they are
seeking something, I would say alittle bit differently.
(04:21):
That's why I can they call itseek, you know, and the
environment there it's verycharismatic, it's highly, highly
impactful with great talks andyou get a lot of you know, feel
the spirit moving sort of dealand it's a lot of fun.
But then there's kind of like alittle gap because right after
that, you know, the next likemore, I guess national thing you
(04:42):
could go to is like a YCPconference, which is a lot more
professionally driven and YoungCatholic Professionals is YCP
Sure, and they do a really goodjob bringing faith into the
workplace, but it's almost likethere needed to be a cross
between that.
But there are some young adultswho are not professionals.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Exactly, they do all kinds of work, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And I think that's where this is where I think
Ignite for Cleveland really kindof stepped forth was, because
it's really that thatopportunity to be able to have
that cross, in my opinion,between like a professional YCP,
where you're able to enact your, your, your, enact your, the
gifts of the spirit that ourLord has endowed upon you for
your own workplace, in youreveryday life, but also really
(05:22):
have that influentialcharismatic conference that you
would see at a Sikh and it seemsto me, too, that the fact that
this is regional, it is for ourdiocese, although people can
come from other dioceses in is abig deal, in the same way that
we have Francine Costantini, whois the director of our youth
(05:42):
ministry, who hosts CLE 216.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And, yes, there's life team conferences and
there's, you know again,damascus and all this, that are
more national.
This is regional, although wedo have national speakers coming
in.
We do, but it's a way to rallythe troops locally as well.
And so do you want to talk alittle bit more about what's
going to be happening there,deacon Mike?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, I mean Joe's really in charge of the show.
So I mean we can have them bothgo.
We'll go back and forth here.
Tell us about the pillars thatwe covered throughout the day,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
So when we first started praying about how Ignite
should look, we really thoughtabout what is really
quintessential to becoming aformed Catholic adult in a
flourishing community.
We came down to three differentpillars and we feel like the
first, most important thing fora young adult is to have their
identity.
So the first thing is identitytheir identity in Christ, their
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purpose in life and how thatfalls in line with our Lord.
I think that's really thedriving home factor to your
foundation in your Christic life.
The next would be you have tofind a community to support you.
So that second pillar iscommunity, because there are
going to be ebbs and flows inlife.
You're going to want people tohold you accountable, you're
(06:58):
going to want people to buildoff of, and I think with that in
particular, it's going to allowyou to grow in a more effective
way.
And then I think, finally, thethird pillar is mission, and
with that we all know that youcan't just stay in your homes
and have your own little bubbleof friends.
We're called to be sent forthand to go on mission and
(07:19):
evangelize the rest of the world, and so that's what the three
pillars are identity, communityand mission.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
We've got three fantabulous speakers who will be
coming in to talk about those,so we'll start locally with.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Father Pat Schultz, so he is a local hero for a lot
of people that are here.
I mean not as high as FatherDamien, as we all know.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Father Patrick Schultz was in my youth group.
Did you know that In Hudson hewas one of my teens?
Oh, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
That was the only reason he went.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
See how the Lord's good he knows what you need to
draw you in.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Hey right, Sometimes it's attractive women.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Did you see that Father Stew movie with Mark
Wahlberg?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's how he got Mark Wahlberg.
It was when he was workingbehind the counter the meat
counter.
And that beautiful woman walkedin Yep yep, and the Lord used
that woman to draw him in, todraw him closer, yeah.
So beauty works on men.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I think it does.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, that's how Schultz is a priest today Anyway
.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I've known him for a long time.
He's great.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
He's a better preacher than I am and I'm glad
that you have him there.
He's wonderful yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And then Jackie Angel is our big national speaker
who's coming in.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yep.
So Jackie, jackie is thespeaker that we're going to be
having coming in.
She is the big dog that'sreally coming into town.
She works with Father MikeSchmitz over at Ascension
Presents and, honestly, ifyou've seen any of her work,
it's phenomenal.
She and her husband, bobbyAngel.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's a great name, by the way, Bobby Angel.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Oh yeah, it sounds like a magician, honestly.
Yeah, honestly.
But if you see any of theirwork on YouTube, honestly it's
phenomenal for young couples,young married, single young,
married, young, single young,anything in that area.
They do phenomenal work to beable to really just bring your
(09:14):
own understanding of what God iscalling to you in your own
vocation and how you shouldshare that to the rest of the
world.
Yeah, great, and SisterMercedes is coming in.
I believe the religious orderis Sister Mary, mother of the
Eucharist, correct, I believe,because I always butcher that.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Dominican Sisters of Mary, mother of the Eucharist,
in Ann Arbor, michigan.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yes, yeah, and this is not her first time in
Cleveland.
She's come before.
She actually spoke at CatchingFire previously and she just lit
it up.
I didn't know much about herprior, but she's phenomenal when
she speaks.
It just grabs everyone'sattention and she'll have a line
of young women coming up to her.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think she'll have like 10 women join her order.
At the end of the day, her namelooks like Mercedes like a
Mercedes Benz, but it's Mercedesand she's also been to
Cleveland to speak to my youngpeople at Tolle Legge Summer
Institute.
We always bring in some youngreligious to give a witness on
Wednesdays.
In fact, I knew Sister Mercedesand I lived with her in Rome.
Oh really.
So at the Casa Santa Maria,where the American priests live,
there are two convents withinthis big.
(10:23):
It's a 400-year-old convent, soit has all these partitions.
All the priests live in thisone area and then the Dominican
sisters live in another area andthe guys would fight over who
gets to celebrate Mass for themthat week.
Oh my gosh.
So it's better than celebratingall the time, you know.
So I lived with her for oneyear there.
They rotate the nuns in.
(10:44):
Usually they get one or twoyears at a time, unless they
have a job in Rome, and one ofthem is like the vice chancellor
, vice, something or other, forthe Angelicum.
So she's been there a while.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But yeah, those Dominican sisters are pretty
cool.
Yeah, they're, oh, I love them,and Sister Mercedes, she's
purifier, so it's perfect forIgnite.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Those are three outstanding speakers.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Priests never fight to hear the nuns' confessions
because they say it's likegetting pelted with marshmallows
.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I don't talk about hearing confessions too much.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That's awesome.
That's awesome, but yeah, andso what's the day going to be
like?
So those are our three mainspeakers.
They'll be with us throughoutthe day.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And wait.
Where is it?
St Ignatius High School correct, correct, yes.
Free parking yes.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, different than last time.
Yes, indeed, yeah last time wewere at the Marriott One
Marriott One of our biggestcritiques was the parking.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So yeah, you've remedied it.
You listen to your people.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
We listen you know, we listen.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So what time does it start and what happens?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So the doors open at 8am.
It starts at it's February 22nd.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
We probably should have prefaced that.
Yeah, february 22nd atSaginatious High School, which
is a Saturday, so all daySaturday?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
essentially yeah, and so the doors open at eight, the
conference starts at 9.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I believe it goes until 8 or 9 pm.
Yeah, so we'll have mass at4.30.
So the formal conference willend with a Eucharistic
procession.
We'll process through thestreets and we'll head down to
St Pat's on Bridge and that'swhere we'll have mass, and then
they actually have a nice littlesort of social hall across the
street and we're going to takeover sort of the upper level.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
At Ignatius or St Pat's.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
At St Pat's Okay, and that's very rarely used.
Like I have this big ballroom,like we opened it up and we're
like, wow, this is a nice littlehidden gem.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, lovely little wood floor I mean it was really
lovely, like they opened up.
They we don't use this much,but if you want to use it, go
ahead, do it.
So we'll have a little lightdinner after Mass and then
praise and worship.
After that, with Damascus,worship will be in the church
after that.
Confessions available for folks.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, it's really a full-day event.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's a full day.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
With three talks, breakout sessions, lunch Mass
praise and worship confession.
Yeah, it's in a procession.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And in my housemate, Father Eric Garris and I, the
vocation director of the diocese, plan to be there all day.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You're celebrating Mass.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yes, because Bishop is having surgery so he's not
able.
So his little vicar will takecare of it and Father Garris
will preach it.
So it'll be a good tag team andI'll be the deacon of the words
.
Nice Three in a booth.
There we go.
I love it.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
It's great, always good, yeah, and so you've been
working really hard on this, andso what are your expectations?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I think they're different than last time.
I think last time we had about250 people show up and I just
wanted to keep our heads abovewater.
I think that was my hope just toprovide something that would
entice our young adults to wantto come back later.
This time I really am.
I'm a lot more at peace aboutit than I was the first to go
around, and I think it's largelybecause we have a great team
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that you know that is doing somereally good stuff and taking a
lot of work off our plates.
But I think what I reallydesire, and really what I think
is going to come out of it is Ireally do think there's going to
be true, you know,transformation of people's
hearts from this one, because Ido believe the content that
we're putting forward isdifferent than anything people
(14:02):
have seen before.
And I'm truthfully not one forconferences, I'm not one to go
to big events and whatnot but Ireally do feel that the content
we're bringing forward, thespeakers that we have, are
really going to change somehearts and people are going to
walk away not only more formedbut really on fire to live it
out more effectively in theirown lives, and whether that's in
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the Diocese of Cleveland orwherever they're coming from.
I really do think that it'sgoing to.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
This is going to set a spark really for them to take
off, and it's not often thatyoung adults get together as a
cohort right.
No, it's very difficult yeahwhen I first started studying
young adults, I said well, whereare places that young adults
just naturally gather right?
And so what we found was thatthere were very few places.
What do you think the top threeare?
You probably know this the bar,the bar.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
No Concert hall sporting event Someone's house.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So all those things are true, but those things are
also true across ages.
Yeah, that's, true, olderpeople go to sporting events,
older people go to bars, allthings.
But, there are places that, ingeneral, young people are just
automatically present atColleges and universities are
obviously the biggest one.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
First right they go figure.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
The second one is the military.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, All these young people are's the military.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You know, all these young people were in the
military.
What's the third one?
It's sad actually.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Prison.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Correct, oh really, prison is the third one when you
said it was sad.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
that was the good one I was going to say the parishes
, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
We could only hope, joe, we could only hope.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Last week I was down at Ashland University one of our
seven Newman centers in thediocese and I gave a little talk
on the bishop's letter andprophetic call.
Mary Kate Lowe was the weekbefore on priesthood and then
drew quarters this week at King,like the royalness of our
baptism, and I talked to theyoung people about the Ignite
(15:53):
Conference and I encouraged them.
I said here's what you need todo Not only sign yourself up,
but invite somebody else in andI think that would be great for
all our young adult ministriesnot only to get yourself, but
maybe someone who's beendisconnected or who has never
been invited to something before.
Invite them to come, becausethe worst they could say is no.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Or I didn't like it and I don't think it's going to
happen.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, but try it Like this is very important because
a lot of people don'tparticipate actively in the life
of the church because they'venever received an invitation.
And if you love someone andyou're just or maybe you're
learning to love someone, justextend the invitation to it
could be a great gift and agreat grace that could change
someone's life, and it's so easytoo.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It could be a great gift and a great grace that
could change someone's life.
And it's so easy too.
It's such a low-hanging fruit,whereas, like they just have to
sit, go there and just listen.
They don't have to do anything.
They can socialize if they want.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
There's, you know, it's, yeah, I totally agree, who
doesn't like to be invited tosomething, especially by another
individual?
It's way different.
I mean, yeah, we need to usesocial media and have things
online in our parish bulletin,but the personal invite is the
way that the Lord worked andit's the most effective way.
So invite someone in and theworst they could do is reject
(17:03):
you.
And if they do come, as Joesays, they'll enjoy it.
There'll be something, there'llbe community there, there'll be
sacraments there, there'll beall sorts of things there.
So, and it's fun to do anadventure and we like to be in
the presence of each other.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, and all your meals are taken care of, so you
don't even have to do that.
If you want a more extensivedinner, you could feel free to
go out, but we'll give you asmaller dinner after Mass, which
is great.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Breakfast and lunch.
Anybody going out for beersafterwards?
Just asking for a friend.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I'm happy to take you out for a beer.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Okay, yeah, there's a couple bars, that's awesome.
Anyways, that's great.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So $65.
You can sign up online.
It's dioceseofclevelandorgslash ignite and you can
register there.
Register a friend and Joe,thanks for all your hard work.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
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Speaker 1 (19:18):
Let's take a look at the readings for a presentation
of the Lord this coming week.
There are animals in the gospelwhich always gets my attention
turtle, doves and pigeons in thegospel which is the sacrifice
of a poor person.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
From the book of Leviticus.
And so Mary and Joseph bringthis offering once they present
Jesus in the temple, theoffering that only poor people
could give the least of whatthey can do.
And yet Simeon still is able torecognize Jesus as the sign of
God, even though he appears tobe a poor person of no means
whatsoever.
And so Simeon can recognizeJesus even through all of that.
(19:56):
Can we recognize Jesus in thesmallest of things?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, I think from this passage, in particular with
Simeon, the fact that his wholelife he had been waiting just
to see the Christ child, or theChrist in whatever form he was
going to come.
He, I think, shows such abeauty of reverence to our Lord
and the Holy Family and I thinkit inspires us to think about
(20:21):
when we see Christ, whether it'sin the tabernacle or at Mass or
even in other people, like howdo we display ourselves, how do
we prostrate ourselves to Christand to others, because I think
it's just such a good image forus and how we should display
ourselves.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
We like to talk about my deacon, friend and classmate
, Deacon Mark Temeco your highschool classmate who recently
said that he was lightingcandles before mass and he
stopped at the altar and hebowed and he lit one candle.
And then he bowed and lit theother candle and he turned
around.
There was an older gentleman inthe front row and he appeared
(20:59):
to be crying and so he walkedover to him and he said I'm
sorry, sir, is everything okay?
And he said yeah, just no onehas such reverence at the altar
anymore.
I was just really moved by that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Thank, you, that's beautiful, isn't that nice,
that's awesome.
Sometimes, nice, that's awesome.
Sometimes, little acts of pietyand reverence go a long way,
absolutely Indeed.
So I was thinking of thissimple act of sacrifice, which
isn't so simple, but the wordsacrifice comes from two Latin
words, meaning to make holy.
And love is sacrificial bynature.
And it starts with the Lord.
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He loves us so much he giveshimself to us.
The Father gives us a son, theson gives us himself on the
cross and the Eucharist, andthat our lives make sense when
we receive that sacrifice of theFather and then offer up our
hearts as a sacrifice back.
And so sometimes, you know,when we think of sacrifice, it
takes on a pejorative tone andreally I try to always frame it
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in terms of an act ofself-giving love, making oneself
a gift for others.
And once that happens, then youcan say Lord, now you let your
servant go in peace, like I'vereceived what I'm made for and
I've given what I'm made for,like my heart's finally at rest.
I think there's somethingbeautiful there, amen.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So presentation of the Lord.
We'll put those readings in theshow notes.
Ignite Conference, february22nd Starts at 8 o'clock.
Ignatius High School, lovelyvenue.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Not St Colmcille Parish, not St Colmcille Parish,
which is our church search forthis week.
Father Damien reminding me thatwe didn't do church search.
I did that subtly Always.
Good, I'm learning.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
So, joe, that's your home parish actually.
So tell us a little bit aboutwhat you like about St Colmico.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, it's one of many parishes in Parma, so we
were very blessed to have somany different parishes there.
I grew up at St Colmico prettymuch my entire life, but the two
things I love there the mostone I love our two priests there
, father Spicer and FatherAnthony Sousa.
I think they're phenomenal.
They're great shepherds for theparish.
And then two, I would say, isthe culture, the people that are
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there.
They're very welcoming.
You're seeing new faces eachand every day.
They're really changing in sucha profound way.
I was recently on a committeethere and just over the last few
years you can just see how thepeople that are flowing through
the doors are just coming with anew spirit.
They're coming more alive andthey're walking away just more
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enlivened than they ever havebefore.
Very nice.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I was at Father Bill Buhall's father's funeral at St
Charles, borneo Parish this pastSaturday at 1230, and Father
Pat Spicer who's a formerstudent of mine, believe it or
not, was sitting behind me andthe offertory hymn was Our Lady
of Knock.
So I'm sitting next to FatherCarlin, irish, blind Irish,
anderson Irish and Spicer, irish, behind me, and those guys were
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singing their hearts out.
It was really lovely.
One of them was even hittingharmonies, so yeah, and the nice
thing too.
You say about the priests there.
They're both great priests, butthey're so different from each
other.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
They are Extremely, which is just wonderful.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It's the one body, many parts thing.
It's just wonderful, so cool.
Thank you for being on the showagain.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Joe.
Oh, thank you guys for havingme.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Ignite Conference, february 22nd, st Ignatius High
School, starts at 8 o'clock,eucharistic procession will lead
us to Mass at 4.30, and we'llwrap up the day with praise and
worship by Damascus Worship.
We'll have this and we'll havea whole lot more next time here
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on Question of Faith.
On today's Question of Faith.
Are all young adult conferencesthe same?
Hey everybody, this is Questionof Faith.
I am Deacon Mike Hayes.
I'm the Director of Young AdultMinistry here in the Diocese of
Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And I'm Fr Damian Ferencz, the Vicar for
Evangelization.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I'm Joe Vacario and I am the co-founder of Catching
Fire Young Adult Ministry andthe and the co-founder of Ignite
Catholic In-N-Out Conference.
Wonderful to have you back, joe.
I'm happy to be here.
It's been a while.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm so happy to be here, we could edit this out,
but isn't it true that since thelast time you were on the show,
you became engaged?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well, I'm actually married now.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh, you're married.
I'm't know Congratulations.
How's that going?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's great Phenomenal .
What date did you get married?
October 5th, St Faustina'sFeast Day.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Wonderful In the wonderful state of South
Carolina.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, charleston, south Carolina, it's St John the
Baptist Cathedral.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh, very cool.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Is that where?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So her family is from Charleston Well, not from
Charleston.
She's from, originally,columbus, and then her family
moved to Charleston area.
But there's a whole back story.
There was a miracle with herfamily that occurred at that
cathedral on Easter years prior,and so that was a large reason
why we went back.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Very cool, you've got to say a little more about that
now.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
So her family.
They weren't originallyplanning to go to Easter Mass at
the cathedral that day andSophia wasn't even there.
She was in Ohio at Universityof Cincinnati, and it just so
happened that every part of herfamily started to went to this
mass at the cathedral and it'slike 45 minutes away from their
home for Easter Mass a few yearsago and her dad had a
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widowmaker heart attack.
I don't know if you knowanything about that.
Well, it's self-descriptive.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
If you have a widowmaker, you're supposed to
die.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
You die on the spot.
Your heart stops.
There's no signs or symptoms.
And he did.
He just died and everyone wasfreaking out.
He was dead, I think, for sevenor eight minutes before they
got the AED on the scene broughthim back to life.
But it was a miracle justbecause they weren't even
originally planning to go to thecathedral for mass, and if they
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were back at home or anywherenear home they wouldn't have
been able to have himresurrected.
And then there was a doctorthere, apparently on scene, that
they still to this day can'tfind.
That helped out a ton.
That's very cool on scene.
That they still to this daycan't find that helped out a ton
.
That's very cool, so, yeah, soit really is a huge reason, I
think, why he's here today andwhy we wanted to get married
there.
That's a great story.
Yeah, I didn't know?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, cool, I didn't know that one either.
That's great.
Yeah, it was incredible, Ithink you know a guy.
You know a guy engaged.
I just haven't seen you in awhile.
That's appropriate.
That's appropriate Newlyweds,All right.
So how about the?
So the question of the day isare all young adult conferences
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the same?
Just recently there was the bigseek.
It was in Utah and in DC.
There's a young adultconference, or a few of them,
down in Damascus.
That happened from time to time.
But here you are the co-founderof our own Young Adult
Conference and we should saythis too.
Up until very recently, we didnot have a director of young
adult ministry in the Diocese ofCleveland.
(03:14):
In fact, Deacon Mike Hayes isthe first correct.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Correct, you are the first.
Yes, you are.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And so he's been collaborating with you and a lot
of these other young adultleaders to do new and exciting
things, and one of these new andexciting things is a young
adult conference that happensevery other year, correct?
So this is the second one andwhat makes it different than the
others.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, that's a great question, Father.
This whole thing from the verybeginning, before Deacon Mike
showed up, it was just acoalition of random young adult
leaders throughout the diocesethat just kind of happened to be
together in different areas andhappen to know each other.
Having Deacon Mike show up onthe scene, it just really
allowed us to all coalesce ontoone specific mission within the
diocese, which really helped outa lot.
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And I think one of the thingsthat really spoke to our hearts
was specifically forspecifically for Ignite was
because there's this like weirdsplit between, once you get out,
like college age kids that are,I shouldn't say kids anymore,
they're adults.
With the college age youngadults that are there, they are
seeking something, I would say alittle bit differently.
(04:21):
That's why I can they call itseek, you know, and the
environment there it's verycharismatic, it's highly, highly
impactful with great talks andyou get a lot of you know, feel
the spirit moving sort of dealand it's a lot of fun.
But then there's kind of like alittle gap because right after
that, you know, the next likemore, I guess national thing you
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could go to is like a YCPconference, which is a lot more
professionally driven and YoungCatholic Professionals is YCP
Sure, and they do a really goodjob bringing faith into the
workplace, but it's almost likethere needed to be a cross
between that.
But there are some young adultswho are not professionals.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Exactly, they do all kinds of work, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And I think that's where this is where I think
Ignite for Cleveland really kindof stepped forth was, because
it's really that thatopportunity to be able to have
that cross, in my opinion,between like a professional YCP,
where you're able to enact your, your, your, enact your, the
gifts of the spirit that ourLord has endowed upon you for
your own workplace, in youreveryday life, but also really
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have that influentialcharismatic conference that you
would see at a Sikh and it seemsto me, too, that the fact that
this is regional, it is for ourdiocese, although people can
come from other dioceses in is abig deal, in the same way that
we have Francine Costantini, whois the director of our youth
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ministry, who hosts CLE 216.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And, yes, there's life team conferences and
there's, you know again,damascus and all this, that are
more national.
This is regional, although wedo have national speakers coming
in.
We do, but it's a way to rallythe troops locally as well.
And so do you want to talk alittle bit more about what's
going to be happening there,deacon Mike?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, I mean Joe's really in charge of the show.
So I mean we can have them bothgo.
We'll go back and forth here.
Tell us about the pillars thatwe covered throughout the day,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
So when we first started praying about how Ignite
should look, we really thoughtabout what is really
quintessential to becoming aformed Catholic adult in a
flourishing community.
We came down to three differentpillars and we feel like the
first, most important thing fora young adult is to have their
identity.
So the first thing is identitytheir identity in Christ, their
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purpose in life and how thatfalls in line with our Lord.
I think that's really thedriving home factor to your
foundation in your Christic life.
The next would be you have tofind a community to support you.
So that second pillar iscommunity, because there are
going to be ebbs and flows inlife.
You're going to want people tohold you accountable, you're
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going to want people to buildoff of, and I think with that in
particular, it's going to allowyou to grow in a more effective
way.
And then I think, finally, thethird pillar is mission, and
with that we all know that youcan't just stay in your homes
and have your own little bubbleof friends.
We're called to be sent forthand to go on mission and
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evangelize the rest of the world, and so that's what the three
pillars are identity, communityand mission.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
We've got three fantabulous speakers who will be
coming in to talk about those,so we'll start locally with.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Father Pat Schultz, so he is a local hero for a lot
of people that are here.
I mean not as high as FatherDamien, as we all know.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Father Patrick Schultz was in my youth group.
Did you know that In Hudson hewas one of my teens?
Oh, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
That was the only reason he went.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
See how the Lord's good he knows what you need to
draw you in.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Hey right, Sometimes it's attractive women.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Did you see that Father Stew movie with Mark
Wahlberg?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's how he got Mark Wahlberg.
It was when he was workingbehind the counter the meat
counter.
And that beautiful woman walkedin Yep yep, and the Lord used
that woman to draw him in, todraw him closer, yeah.
So beauty works on men.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I think it does.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, that's how Schultz is a priest today Anyway
.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I've known him for a long time.
He's great.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
He's a better preacher than I am and I'm glad
that you have him there.
He's wonderful yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And then Jackie Angel is our big national speaker
who's coming in.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yep.
So Jackie, jackie is thespeaker that we're going to be
having coming in.
She is the big dog that'sreally coming into town.
She works with Father MikeSchmitz over at Ascension
Presents and, honestly, ifyou've seen any of her work,
it's phenomenal.
She and her husband, bobbyAngel.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's a great name, by the way, Bobby Angel.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Oh yeah, it sounds like a magician, honestly.
Yeah, honestly.
But if you see any of theirwork on YouTube, honestly it's
phenomenal for young couples,young married, single young,
married, young, single young,anything in that area.
They do phenomenal work to beable to really just bring your
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own understanding of what God iscalling to you in your own
vocation and how you shouldshare that to the rest of the
world.
Yeah, great, and SisterMercedes is coming in.
I believe the religious orderis Sister Mary, mother of the
Eucharist, correct, I believe,because I always butcher that.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Dominican Sisters of Mary, mother of the Eucharist,
in Ann Arbor, michigan.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yes, yeah, and this is not her first time in
Cleveland.
She's come before.
She actually spoke at CatchingFire previously and she just lit
it up.
I didn't know much about herprior, but she's phenomenal when
she speaks.
It just grabs everyone'sattention and she'll have a line
of young women coming up to her.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think she'll have like 10 women join her order.
At the end of the day, her namelooks like Mercedes like a
Mercedes Benz, but it's Mercedesand she's also been to
Cleveland to speak to my youngpeople at Tolle Legge Summer
Institute.
We always bring in some youngreligious to give a witness on
Wednesdays.
In fact, I knew Sister Mercedesand I lived with her in Rome.
Oh really.
So at the Casa Santa Maria,where the American priests live,
there are two convents withinthis big.
(10:23):
It's a 400-year-old convent, soit has all these partitions.
All the priests live in thisone area and then the Dominican
sisters live in another area andthe guys would fight over who
gets to celebrate Mass for themthat week.
Oh my gosh.
So it's better than celebratingall the time, you know.
So I lived with her for oneyear there.
They rotate the nuns in.
(10:44):
Usually they get one or twoyears at a time, unless they
have a job in Rome, and one ofthem is like the vice chancellor
, vice, something or other, forthe Angelicum.
So she's been there a while.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But yeah, those Dominican sisters are pretty
cool.
Yeah, they're, oh, I love them,and Sister Mercedes, she's
purifier, so it's perfect forIgnite.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Those are three outstanding speakers.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Priests never fight to hear the nuns' confessions
because they say it's likegetting pelted with marshmallows
.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I don't talk about hearing confessions too much.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
That's awesome.
That's awesome, but yeah, andso what's the day going to be
like?
So those are our three mainspeakers.
They'll be with us throughoutthe day.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And wait.
Where is it?
St Ignatius High School correct, correct, yes.
Free parking yes.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, different than last time.
Yes, indeed, yeah last time wewere at the Marriott One
Marriott One of our biggestcritiques was the parking.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So yeah, you've remedied it.
You listen to your people.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
We listen you know, we listen.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So what time does it start and what happens?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So the doors open at 8am.
It starts at it's February 22nd.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
We probably should have prefaced that.
Yeah, february 22nd atSaginatious High School, which
is a Saturday, so all daySaturday?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
essentially yeah, and so the doors open at eight, the
conference starts at 9.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I believe it goes until 8 or 9 pm.
Yeah, so we'll have mass at4.30.
So the formal conference willend with a Eucharistic
procession.
We'll process through thestreets and we'll head down to
St Pat's on Bridge and that'swhere we'll have mass, and then
they actually have a nice littlesort of social hall across the
street and we're going to takeover sort of the upper level.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
At Ignatius or St Pat's.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
At St Pat's Okay, and that's very rarely used.
Like I have this big ballroom,like we opened it up and we're
like, wow, this is a nice littlehidden gem.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, lovely little wood floor I mean it was really
lovely, like they opened up.
They we don't use this much,but if you want to use it, go
ahead, do it.
So we'll have a little lightdinner after Mass and then
praise and worship.
After that, with Damascus,worship will be in the church
after that.
Confessions available for folks.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, it's really a full-day event.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's a full day.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
With three talks, breakout sessions, lunch Mass
praise and worship confession.
Yeah, it's in a procession.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And in my housemate, Father Eric Garris and I, the
vocation director of the diocese, plan to be there all day.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You're celebrating Mass.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yes, because Bishop is having surgery so he's not
able.
So his little vicar will takecare of it and Father Garris
will preach it.
So it'll be a good tag team andI'll be the deacon of the words
.
Nice Three in a booth.
There we go.
I love it.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
It's great, always good, yeah, and so you've been
working really hard on this, andso what are your expectations?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I think they're different than last time.
I think last time we had about250 people show up and I just
wanted to keep our heads abovewater.
I think that was my hope just toprovide something that would
entice our young adults to wantto come back later.
This time I really am.
I'm a lot more at peace aboutit than I was the first to go
around, and I think it's largelybecause we have a great team
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that you know that is doing somereally good stuff and taking a
lot of work off our plates.
But I think what I reallydesire, and really what I think
is going to come out of it is Ireally do think there's going to
be true, you know,transformation of people's
hearts from this one, because Ido believe the content that
we're putting forward isdifferent than anything people
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have seen before.
And I'm truthfully not one forconferences, I'm not one to go
to big events and whatnot but Ireally do feel that the content
we're bringing forward, thespeakers that we have, are
really going to change somehearts and people are going to
walk away not only more formedbut really on fire to live it
out more effectively in theirown lives, and whether that's in
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the Diocese of Cleveland orwherever they're coming from.
I really do think that it'sgoing to.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
This is going to set a spark really for them to take
off, and it's not often thatyoung adults get together as a
cohort right.
No, it's very difficult yeahwhen I first started studying
young adults, I said well, whereare places that young adults
just naturally gather right?
And so what we found was thatthere were very few places.
What do you think the top threeare?
You probably know this the bar,the bar.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
No Concert hall sporting event Someone's house.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So all those things are true, but those things are
also true across ages.
Yeah, that's, true, olderpeople go to sporting events,
older people go to bars, allthings.
But, there are places that, ingeneral, young people are just
automatically present atColleges and universities are
obviously the biggest one.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
First right they go figure.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
The second one is the military.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, All these young people are's the military.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You know, all these young people were in the
military.
What's the third one?
It's sad actually.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Prison.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Correct, oh really, prison is the third one when you
said it was sad.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
that was the good one I was going to say the parishes
, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
We could only hope, joe, we could only hope.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Last week I was down at Ashland University one of our
seven Newman centers in thediocese and I gave a little talk
on the bishop's letter andprophetic call.
Mary Kate Lowe was the weekbefore on priesthood and then
drew quarters this week at King,like the royalness of our
baptism, and I talked to theyoung people about the Ignite
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Conference and I encouraged them.
I said here's what you need todo Not only sign yourself up,
but invite somebody else in andI think that would be great for
all our young adult ministriesnot only to get yourself, but
maybe someone who's beendisconnected or who has never
been invited to something before.
Invite them to come, becausethe worst they could say is no.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Or I didn't like it and I don't think it's going to
happen.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, but try it Like this is very important because
a lot of people don'tparticipate actively in the life
of the church because they'venever received an invitation.
And if you love someone andyou're just or maybe you're
learning to love someone, justextend the invitation to it
could be a great gift and agreat grace that could change
someone's life, and it's so easytoo.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It could be a great gift and a great grace that
could change someone's life.
And it's so easy too.
It's such a low-hanging fruit,whereas, like they just have to
sit, go there and just listen.
They don't have to do anything.
They can socialize if they want.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
There's, you know, it's, yeah, I totally agree, who
doesn't like to be invited tosomething, especially by another
individual?
It's way different.
I mean, yeah, we need to usesocial media and have things
online in our parish bulletin,but the personal invite is the
way that the Lord worked andit's the most effective way.
So invite someone in and theworst they could do is reject
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you.
And if they do come, as Joesays, they'll enjoy it.
There'll be something, there'llbe community there, there'll be
sacraments there, there'll beall sorts of things there.
So, and it's fun to do anadventure and we like to be in
the presence of each other.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, and all your meals are taken care of, so you
don't even have to do that.
If you want a more extensivedinner, you could feel free to
go out, but we'll give you asmaller dinner after Mass, which
is great.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Breakfast and lunch.
Anybody going out for beersafterwards?
Just asking for a friend.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I'm happy to take you out for a beer.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Okay, yeah, there's a couple bars, that's awesome.
Anyways, that's great.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
So $65.
You can sign up online.
It's dioceseofclevelandorgslash ignite and you can
register there.
Register a friend and Joe,thanks for all your hard work.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
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of the Lord this coming week.
There are animals in the gospelwhich always gets my attention
turtle, doves and pigeons in thegospel which is the sacrifice
of a poor person.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
From the book of Leviticus.
And so Mary and Joseph bringthis offering once they present
Jesus in the temple, theoffering that only poor people
could give the least of whatthey can do.
And yet Simeon still is able torecognize Jesus as the sign of
God, even though he appears tobe a poor person of no means
whatsoever.
And so Simeon can recognizeJesus even through all of that.
(19:56):
Can we recognize Jesus in thesmallest of things?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, I think from this passage, in particular with
Simeon, the fact that his wholelife he had been waiting just
to see the Christ child, or theChrist in whatever form he was
going to come.
He, I think, shows such abeauty of reverence to our Lord
and the Holy Family and I thinkit inspires us to think about
(20:21):
when we see Christ, whether it'sin the tabernacle or at Mass or
even in other people, like howdo we display ourselves, how do
we prostrate ourselves to Christand to others, because I think
it's just such a good image forus and how we should display
ourselves.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
We like to talk about my deacon, friend and classmate
, Deacon Mark Temeco your highschool classmate who recently
said that he was lightingcandles before mass and he
stopped at the altar and hebowed and he lit one candle.
And then he bowed and lit theother candle and he turned
around.
There was an older gentleman inthe front row and he appeared
(20:59):
to be crying and so he walkedover to him and he said I'm
sorry, sir, is everything okay?
And he said yeah, just no onehas such reverence at the altar
anymore.
I was just really moved by that.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Thank, you, that's beautiful, isn't that nice,
that's awesome.
Sometimes, nice, that's awesome.
Sometimes, little acts of pietyand reverence go a long way,
absolutely Indeed.
So I was thinking of thissimple act of sacrifice, which
isn't so simple, but the wordsacrifice comes from two Latin
words, meaning to make holy.
And love is sacrificial bynature.
And it starts with the Lord.
(21:31):
He loves us so much he giveshimself to us.
The Father gives us a son, theson gives us himself on the
cross and the Eucharist, andthat our lives make sense when
we receive that sacrifice of theFather and then offer up our
hearts as a sacrifice back.
And so sometimes, you know,when we think of sacrifice, it
takes on a pejorative tone andreally I try to always frame it
(21:53):
in terms of an act ofself-giving love, making oneself
a gift for others.
And once that happens, then youcan say Lord, now you let your
servant go in peace, like I'vereceived what I'm made for and
I've given what I'm made for,like my heart's finally at rest.
I think there's somethingbeautiful there, amen.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So presentation of the Lord.
We'll put those readings in theshow notes.
Ignite Conference, february22nd Starts at 8 o'clock.
Ignatius High School, lovelyvenue.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Not St Colmcille Parish, not St Colmcille Parish,
which is our church search forthis week.
Father Damien reminding me thatwe didn't do church search.
I did that subtly Always.
Good, I'm learning.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
So, joe, that's your home parish actually.
So tell us a little bit aboutwhat you like about St Colmico.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, it's one of many parishes in Parma, so we
were very blessed to have somany different parishes there.
I grew up at St Colmico prettymuch my entire life, but the two
things I love there the mostone I love our two priests there
, father Spicer and FatherAnthony Sousa.
I think they're phenomenal.
They're great shepherds for theparish.
And then two, I would say, isthe culture, the people that are
(23:01):
there.
They're very welcoming.
You're seeing new faces eachand every day.
They're really changing in sucha profound way.
I was recently on a committeethere and just over the last few
years you can just see how thepeople that are flowing through
the doors are just coming with anew spirit.
They're coming more alive andthey're walking away just more
(23:22):
enlivened than they ever havebefore.
Very nice.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I was at Father Bill Buhall's father's funeral at St
Charles, borneo Parish this pastSaturday at 1230, and Father
Pat Spicer who's a formerstudent of mine, believe it or
not, was sitting behind me andthe offertory hymn was Our Lady
of Knock.
So I'm sitting next to FatherCarlin, irish, blind Irish,
anderson Irish and Spicer, irish, behind me, and those guys were
(23:47):
singing their hearts out.
It was really lovely.
One of them was even hittingharmonies, so yeah, and the nice
thing too.
You say about the priests there.
They're both great priests, butthey're so different from each
other.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
They are Extremely, which is just wonderful.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It's the one body, many parts thing.
It's just wonderful, so cool.
Thank you for being on the showagain.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Joe.
Oh, thank you guys for havingme.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Ignite Conference, february 22nd, st Ignatius High
School, starts at 8 o'clock,eucharistic procession will lead
us to Mass at 4.30, and we'llwrap up the day with praise and
worship by Damascus Worship.
We'll have this and we'll havea whole lot more next time here
(24:30):
on Question of Faith.
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