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All good things must come to an end. After 187 episodes spanning more than three years, we're signing off with our final Question of Faith podcast. But don't worry—this isn't a somber farewell, but rather a reflection on life's transitions and what truly matters.

We open with a profound realization that's hit each of us at different points in ministry: while we take our work seriously, the Church continues regardless of our individual contributions. As Fr. Eric puts it, "If I don't do my job, there'll still be people in the Seminary, because it's God who calls, not me." This humbling truth has taught us to hold our roles with a "loose grip," recognizing that our legacy isn't found in buildings bearing our names or possessions that burden others after we're gone.

The timing of our finale coincides with organizational changes within the Diocese of Cleveland, where divisions are being combined and new ministries are emerging. While we can't share all the details just yet, we're excited about what's next. And how fitting that we record just after Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit empowered the apostles to spread the Gospel in new languages—a beautiful redemption of the Tower of Babel story that once divided humanity.

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Between theological reflections, we answer one final question about fasting before Communion (it's one hour before receiving, not before Mass begins), share softball league updates, and reminisce about memorable moments from our podcast journey. Throughout it all, our conversation maintains that blend of depth and lighthearted banter that's defined Question of Faith from day one.

Though this chapter closes, our ministries continue. We're not disappearing—you'll still find us serving throughout the Diocese of Cleveland, just in evolving roles. As we say in our final moments: "It's not goodbye, it's see you later." Thank you for being part of our journey. Special thanks to Dan Fuerst our sponsor at Briefcase Marketing.  May the questions of faith continue to guide your path forward.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's Question of Faith.
Is this goodbye?
Hey everybody, this is Questionof Faith.
I'm Deacon Mike Hayes.
I'm the Director of Young AdultMinistry here in the Diocese of
Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
And I'm Fr Damian Ferentz, the Vicar for
Evangelization, and I am Fr EricGarris, Vocation Director
Diocese of Cleveland, that's you.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's all of us, that's right.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
We share that in common.
We share the Diocese ofCleveland.
That's you, that's all of us,that's right.
We share that in common.
We share the Diocese ofCleveland in common, and our
particular ministries aredifferent.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, we are many parts.
We are all one body, but thegifts we have we're given to
share.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
We are all one body.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yes, Vocations is all our job anyway.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
It is.
It says that it is the job ofall within the church to promote
vocations, to build a cultureof vocations.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I love when people ask you how many seminarians you
get this year, you said howmany do you send me?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Quantity, quality.
I did.
I will say I don't know if thisis the area to air this in, but
I had a crisis in my life acouple of days ago, driving, and
I'm like wait, if I don't do myjob, there'll still be people
in the cemetery, because it'sgod who calls, not me.
Yeah, it takes the pressure offyou yeah, that was it was like
wait, what am I doing with mylife?
Well, I know what I'm doing.

(01:14):
I'm, yeah, assisting people,walking with them, all that
that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I think too, like if I die, let's say you know my
plane crashes or the car crashesor somebody hits me as I walk
across the street today.
Okay, someone else is going tobe doing my job and someone else
can offer Mass Not that I won'tbe missed and I don't offer
something particular but it'sgood to keep in mind that

(01:40):
there's other things that willhappen and the church will go on
and life will go on without you.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, and look, we're all very serious about our work
, right?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
And we all take it really seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
And our faith.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
And our faith.
And I'm realizing I forgot tostart.
Oh no, I did start the video.
Never mind, We'll keep goingthen.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Do we start the podcast?
No, we start it, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Rolling.
But we're all serious about ourwork and I would say I used to
be I don't want to say lessserious about my work.
I don't think I'm any lessserious, but I think I I like
held on to it a little moretightly than I do now and, um, I
kind of realized, you know,after a while, like whenever I
left a job, somebody else camein and did that job, you know it

(02:22):
was, and it was fine and theworld kept turning.
You know, my friend, joan is areally good check on this.
She said she got fired one timefrom a job and she was like ah,
the radio station's gonna bereally sorry that they fired me,
they're gonna miss me.
And they didn't.
Yeah, it just went.
You know, the station keptgoing on and she was like yeah,
wow, that's the humility.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I mean, we've all been in ministry and done
different things, but at thispoint in my life I've been in
vocation ministry three years.
I was at St Gabriel for one.
I was at St Raphael for four.
I've been gone from St Raphael,my first assignment, longer
than I've been there.
And now there's a new, newpriest, so my replacement's

(03:06):
already moving on.
And so you see, it's not justus yes, the minister matters,
but it's also the spiritproviding for the church in and
through and at the particulartimes.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Through all of that it's like when I go back to
Busted Halo with the Paulists,people are like, so, Mike, how
do you know Busted Halo?
And I'm like I started it andthey're like what?
And I'm like, yeah, and they'relike, oh, I thought Father Dave
started it and I said no, hecame in like five years after
the project.
I said, as I always remind him,and I said, but it's his.
I said this isn't mine anymore,you know, this is his A couple

(03:33):
weeks ago, Bishop Molesikordained eight men to the
priesthood.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
We were all there was ordained as Father John Hawkins
and I've known John since hewas in high school and his youth
minister was in my youth group,so it was really cool and he
asked me to vest him and soafter we laid hands, the priests
, then those who were vesting,stood together in just behind
the altar in the sanctuary andone of the guys who was standing

(03:58):
next to me in the sanctuary wasRich Semidi.
Father Rich Semidi, who was inmy youth group back in the day
in Hudson, and I assumed he wasvesting Father Jeff Lindholm,
because they're into Hispanicministry, they're both really
great linguists.
Yes, well, as it turns out, Ididn't find out till the next
day he vested Donatelli and atFather Anthony Donatelli's first

(04:19):
mass.
Now, I didn't know him when Iwas in Hudson, but he's a Hudson
kid too.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
He was probably like five Probably.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah, that's probably right, and he was at Kent his
first year or two before hetransferred to Boer Mail, that's
true.
But at his first Mass FatherAnthony was introducing a lot of
the priests that were up thereand he said and over there that
tall priest with the beard,that's Father Rich Semidi, and
he vested me yesterday.
And the reason he vested meyesterday was because he was the

(04:48):
first one to ask me aboutpriesthood.
Wow, and I thought that is soawesome.
I wrote Rich a handwritten notejust to tell him how proud I
was of him, because when he wasin high school he shadowed me
for a week.
And you get to a point likeit's like, do your job and then,
and then you know, sow yourseeds where you sow them and

(05:09):
then you, you'll see fruits waydown.
Now it gets 20 years down theroad.
Now I've been a priest 22 yearsand it's a.
It's, it's great.
And you, you, you deal withlife with a loose grip.
You don't hold on too tightbecause then you can't swing the
bat too loose, the bat fallsout of your hand.
So just enough.
It's like this marion postureto let things be what they're
supposed to be.
That's right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
We all have a tendency to do this, though,
right, I mean, think about justbuildings and street signs,
right, like we're all trying tocheat death.
Right, you know we're puttingnames on buildings, you know, in
memory of you know, or the youknow.
The Wrigley Field is probably agood example, even though it's
a company, but I mean somebody'snamed Wrigley.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's named after a stick of gum.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, named after the guy who made that stick of gum.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
It used to be Jacobsfield.
It's not right Jacobsfield.
It's named after a gum.
Yeah, it's the gum companyWrigley.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I thought it was some guy named Wrigley.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
There was also a Wrigley.
I forgot about it, but thesethings are all named after
somebody and people are thinkingthat this is their legacy.
They're keeping it out.
No, your legacy is in heaven.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's like this is not .
We're kind of holding on tothis to have some remnant of
ourself.
Here I always say how many ofus could remember our great,
great, great, great greatgrandfather.
Now, okay, you could probablylook that up, right, you could
probably find some trace of iton ancestry or something like
that.
But do you know how he laughed?
Do you know anything about thatguy?

(06:31):
No, that guy is gone.
He is a figment of the past.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
At the same time, though, is a part of you, even
though you're not necessarilyaware of that.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Right, yeah, and God willing, he's in the promised
land waiting for his body to getback.
This is where I was going, ohsorry, no, it's okay.
Well, you said he was like God.
I was like oh no.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Are you annihilated?
Yeah, he's gone from our memory, certainly on the earth, but
God never forgets a single oneof us.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
And so we're all you know, we're all bound together.
One of my, one of my weird mindthings that I think about is
like I'm a priest, it's 2025 andI'm a catholic, but like and I
know my grandparents were, butlike, who was the first person
in my family that became acatholic?
That's a good question.
And then like but back to that,then, who influenced that
person?
Who influenced like just how,like it is such a big and

(07:28):
beautiful picture that I thinkwe can get so myopic in our
vision of like oh, I'm justfocused on me and this, but like
we're, we are a part ofsomething bigger.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
And that is why I like to celebrate St Cyril
Methodius, because they were theone who brought Christianity to
the Slavs and that's where mypeople come from.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Zin dobra jak si mas.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Pivo, dva pivo, prosim, that's two pivo.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Zin spože, you're wearing a lot here.
A little Slovak, a littletheology Kapusta A little
history.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
So what's the answer to the question I was?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
going to say so why are we talking?

Speaker 3 (07:59):
about this Good question.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
This may come to you as a surprise, but today is the
final episode of Question ofFaith.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Because we've answered all of them, right,
that's right.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
There's no more or we've exhausted our knowledge.
Our job is done here.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
That's right, god bless Thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Thank you, have a good night.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
We're Question of Faith.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
So we started Question of Faith on January
18th 2022.
So more than three years, Goodrun.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, really good run .
Do you guys have a favoritequestion?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Ooh, yeah, I do Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
What do you got?
Did Carrie Underwood make AxlRose smile?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Was that the topic?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, that was one, did she?
Yeah, she did.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Did she?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, she did, he's always so angry and she played
some music festival and broughthim up to play with her and I've
never seen him smile so muchand I told Mike at the time
before he was a deacon I'm like,could we do this?
Because I love talking aboutthat stuff and it made me so
happy and it was such a weirdthing to talk about.

(09:02):
So that was my favorite episode.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I'm fidgety.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
It might be picking up.
People are going to be hearingit?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I can't hear it Crinkling your mint.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Well you can see this .
If you're listening, there yougo.
Now you can hear it.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
That's like the weird ASMR thing?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
isn't that the thing where people like jiggle jewelry
and say like is that what Ihear at night from your room?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
No, they pour sand into a thing.
So, how many different episodes?
186 episodes.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Wow, should have quit at 200.
I think I've been on.
Maybe let's do 14 more 15, 12.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
This is 187, actually , which is also the code for
murder.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I thought it was 18.
187.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
That's from a police code.
Well, there you go, becauseit's a 187.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Taking out the podcast, exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
And we're not being told to do this.
They're not firing us, it's runat scores.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Transitions happen and changes are real.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, and changes are afoot.
You know we're combiningdivisions here in the diocese,
or a division of catechetics andparish life, and special
ministries are combining intoone division and so some changes
are happening on.
I can't say too much about thisbecause we're going to make an
announcement on July 1st, butyou know I'll be moving into
some new areas, that's all that?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
What do they say?
In a little while you will seeme, but then you'll see me, and
then you'll see me.
It's like the resurrection,just in a different form.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
But the same form.
Tuesday our new priests andthose who are on the move in
this rotation show up at theirnew assignments.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
That's right, yes, so that's a change.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
And your assignment is still fairly new over at the
cathedral Still fairly new yeah,I'm getting into it, picking up
some weddings now, trying tofigure out building a young
adult group at the cathedral.
That's exciting, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
You got Wednesday Night Lives, yep.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'm moving too.
I'm moving from the fifth floordown to the second floor.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh right, yeah, here in this building, in this
building, yes, in this buildingyeah, not in your residence With
Mrs Mary Fugate, she's going tocome down with me?
Yes, she's coming down.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I'm inheriting Mary's desk because I'm moving offices
also, so I'm moving just acrossthe hall A lot of movements
like musical chairs up on thefifth floor.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah, I'm almost all moved, so I'm kind of ready to
settle in.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
I'm just saying, hey, let's get a move on.
I'm actually looking forward tothe move.
I'll miss my view, but I wasn'tin my office that much.
But what I'm really excitedabout is now I could put my
books on the south side of myoffice so that they won't be
facing the sun and experiencesun damage.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
And I was really worried about that.
Have they experienced fading?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
They've started to, they've started to, and it's
caused deep concern within mysoul.
I don't collect many things andI am like the anti-hoarder I
try to get rid of stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
But I do like books.
I do like books.
Yeah, I'm a much more of ahoarder than probably both of
you are.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah Well, I told this story before my dad was in
the nursing home.
We ran out of money.
We had to sell his house.
So my brother is like MrBusinessman, so he took care of
all the sales and all that.
My job was emptying out thehouse Worst job ever.
You know, my dad was a greatestgeneration guy so we held on to

(12:17):
a lot of stuff and it waspainful, not just physically but
like emotionally, to let go ofmy childhood home and I had a
lot of good memories there andso I told myself when I die
whether I get hit by a car, myplane crashes or I get hit
jaywalking across the streettoday this is the second time
I'm saying that.
I'm going to say you it'spartly partly.
I went to confession yesterday,so I'm cool, you're good.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I did too, but oh good, I'm going tomorrow yeah
well, it's a good thing to do.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I just don't want to burden my family or my friends
when I die.
They could say, wow look, heput everything in four
Tupperware boxes and he's justgot a lot of books.
We could handle that.
I'm trying to do a service, anact of charity toward those whom
I love when I die, even if it'stoday, if I get hit by a car,

(13:07):
the plane crashes or I get hitcrossing the street jaywalking.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I have a lot of framed pictures and books, like
you, so those are the things Ihad to move all the way into my
new office.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
The framed pictures.
I'm slowly getting rid of those, because how many framed
pictures can you have?
And then, when you die, whatare people going to do?
They're going to be like whatare we going to do with this?
You know what I mean, but it'snice to have for now.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's nice to have for now.
I'm actually not a big picture.
I have a whole crate of framedpictures.
See, I think that they wouldtell a story when they find me,
they'll.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
I think that's generational, though, because
you entered adulthood prior toiPhone.
That's also true, so I thinkpeople's new framed picture is
your cloud.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
And your phone.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
If I really like a picture, I'll print it and then
I'll Well, I have a wall of famewith Bruce Springsteen, teddy
Griffin, gillian Welch and Julesautograph behind my couch.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
That's like you know, those are in frames.
Those aren't going anywhere.
I don't have any pictures in myroom.
I have pictures in my office.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Don't you have a picture of Dr Brule in your room
somewhere?

Speaker 3 (14:16):
No, I have a signed picture from Gary Busey.
It says To Father Eric Godbless Gary Busey.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
When I was ordained, Father Steve Breck got me an
autographed picture of BrettMichaels, the lead singer of
Poison, and I had it in my musicroom at my first parish.
And one of the maintenance menreally liked Brett Michaels.
I'm like do you want it?
He's like I would love it, so Igave it to him.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
That's nice of you.
He's got my Bret Michaels, getyour hands up.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
When Father Jacob Bearer.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I don't know maybe it was his birthday or something,
but Gary Busey wrote a bookcalled Buseyisms where it was
his life story and every chapterwas one word but it was an
acronym, so I got him the onethat said FREEDOM, which stands
for Facing Real Exciting Events.
No, facing Real ExcitingElephants, real exciting events

(15:11):
no.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Facing real exciting.
Elephants, energy developingout of forget, forget what it is
.
That doesn't spell feelings,freedom.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Facing real exciting energy developing out of forget?
I don't know I remember cat wasconniving and tactical memory
well developing out of miraclesfacing real exciting energy
developing out of miracles.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I remember cat was conniving and tactical Memory.
Conniving and tactical Verynice.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Developing out of miracles.
Facing real, exciting energydeveloping out of miracles.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
That's freedom, that's very nice.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
And then I got a free 8x10 from Lethal Weapon 4.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Well speaking of random things.
Didn't you get some question,some question about something we
did?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
So someone wrote in this week and said do I have to
fast before I receive communion?
How long do I have to fastbefore mass starts?
Do I have to fast before Ireceive communion?
What's the deal with this?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
And we answered this question before the show in a
matter of 30 seconds.
So somebody go.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yes, but the church also doesn't ask you to do that,
which is impossible, and so ifyou are in a situation where you
need to eat food, you're ableto be dispensed from that, and
it's an hour before communion.
So, essentially, don't beeating a donut walking into the
church building, and part of itis to create a.
It's not like it's just tocreate a disposition and a space

(16:20):
and a longing within your heartwhere it's like I'm not just
going from thing to thing tothing.
This means something, so I'mwilling to wait for it and to
anticipate it and, yeah, preparefor it.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
If you need proof, Canon 919 is the one that lists
this, and it is one hour beforeyou receive communion, not one
hour before Mass begins.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Correct.
So if you go to a long Mass,like if you go to the Easter
Vigil, you can actually eat aRice Krispie treat at the
beginning and still be fine.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
You could probably eat a Rice Krispie treat during
the first reading, but Iwouldn't encourage it.
I wouldn't encourage it either.
I just said you could if youwere a child.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, if you're a kid and you got a bag of Cheerios.
It's always Cheerios, or ifyou're an adult and you see a
rogue Cheerio on the ground, youcan eat that.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
You could, you should blow it off first, there might
be some like dust on it A littlebit, or a hair, that's right.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
One never knows.
I mean, hopefully the churchfloor is clean.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Right, but sometimes they're not.
You never know.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Depends on your parish.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Sometimes there's dermis D-O.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
It's good that you're bringing words like dermis back
into the lexicon there.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Thank you words like dermis, back into the lexicon
there.
Thank you, no problem, yourdermis is showing your skin.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Good thing this is the last show, because if it
wasn't, yeah canceled the uh the.
The other thing, too, is thatmedication uh does not count
that's yeah and water does notcount.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah, like if you need to eat before, yeah, water
does not also, if you're hungry,just drink a huge glass of
water and you won't be hungryyeah, that's the first thing I
do 32 ounces in the as soon as Iwake up go for it same I don't
measure mine, I just drink outof my water bottle until I'm
satisfied.
Well, good for you.

(17:57):
Wow, but I wonder if it's 32ounce I don't know how much is
in an algin depends on how big,the now gene is?
I think it's a 32 ounces.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
There you go.
See, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Actually I think it's 64 if it's in Nalgene.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I have too many stickers on it to know yeah,
right, exactly, maybe you shouldweigh it.
Does 32 ounces of water weigh32 ounces?
I, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, huh, wow, you never know Again.
You'll learn a lot here Alittle math, a little biology,
you guys listeners are going tomiss this show.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
They will.
I can tell there's some peoplewho are starting to tear up Miss
Garris taking us off the track.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Tear up a little bit out, there it's going to be okay
, it's going to be all right.
Goodbye, podcast Podcast.
What's the next line?
Goodbye, stranger.
The next line is Is the nextline?
Hey?
What about like church websitesand stuff?

Speaker 1 (18:51):
There's always an opportunity for your church
website to get a little bitbetter.
You know how they do that.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
How Just to wipe in the dust off your monitor?
You think no.
There's more than that.
Briefcase marketing actuallycreates marketing for your
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Speaker 3 (19:11):
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Speaker 1 (19:13):
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so that you can convert merevisitors into customers, donors,
volunteers, parishioners, allthat fun stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
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Speaker 1 (19:24):
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Maybe we should just gettogether once a week for coffee
and talk about briefcasemarketing.
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It's briefcasemarketing and, asDeacon Mike said, add this
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Marketing.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Hey, softball started .
Oh yeah, by the way, you want meto do a quick softball update.
Bring you guys up to date.
Sure, sure, why not Last show?
So the season kicked off at StJohn Bosco, the Parma Peacocks
all good things come from Parma.
Right, they thrashed the StVitus Lions 8-1.
The Peacocks had an amazingdefense all day long.
They've really solved theirinfield woes from last year.

(20:58):
They allowed a first inning runand only six hits all day long.
Pablo Garcia-Jaraz two hits,two RBIs a stellar day on the
mound.
The defending champions, bigLeague Chew, defeated their
longtime rival, catchingFlamingos 13-8.
Matt Liberatore a huge home run, along with newcomer Joe
Kottmeyer, tom Cranes and JimKottmeyer three hits apiece.
Chosen Ones knocked off theHoly Rosary, a new team in the

(21:22):
league.
The Holy Rosary Parish cameinto the league.
Are they the?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Holy Rosary Beads.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
That would be good.
I'm going to give them thatsuggestion.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, we should be the Beads.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Or Spaghetti.
They need some Rosary Beadsbecause they lost 17-2.
And the game shortened fiveinnings.
Johnny Reynolds and StevenNewbold with home runs in that
one.
A nine-run fourth inning thatput the Mercy Rule in play.
Game of the day West SidewayCaps squeak by the St Joe's
Vikings 8-7.
Tom Bruno three hits, two RBIs.
Play of the day Captain LoganFeltkamp saves the day.

(21:56):
A defensive spark slaps the tagon father Ian Kelly at second
base.
I bet she was mad.
He was.
He was trying to catch himsleeping.
He's very competitive and so hejust took off to second base.
They fired the ball towardmegan bolin who was standing at
second, and logan jumped infront of her, slapped the tag on
ian in one motion.
Then ian's foot hit the bag andI was the umpire and I called

(22:17):
him out and immediately manageranthony mincini comes running
across the diamond to me.
He goes what do you?
Did you see there?
And I said I saw Logan tag himand then his foot hit the bag.
He went.
Oh okay, he turned around andwalked back to the dugout.
So that was a great game 8-7.
Really good win for the WestSide Whitecaps over the St Joe's
Vikings.

(22:37):
The night cap, the Itay MightyDoves got past the Blue
Scapulars 14-10.
Andrew Kukla, three RBIs and ahomer.
Gabby McGuire back in action.
Gabby actually had a.
You know this is really rough.
She played in a summer leaguethat was not our league and she
took a line drive off the face.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
And was really, really hurt out of concussion,
all those kinds of things.
So she is fully recovered,which is great, and she pitched
Jim yesterday and she also gotthree hits in the ballgame, so
good for her.
Dave Smith, with two RBIs aswell.
Next week we'll transition thesoftball update into sort of
like little YouTube videos forthe week, so we'll do something
sort of live to tape, so tospeak.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Grab people off the field and do a little interview
with them.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Are you going to reel them in?

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Do some little reels for the softball update, that'll
be good.
Are you going to reel them in?
Do some little reels for thesoftball update, that'll be good
.
Keep it real Out at St JohnBosco in Parma Heights.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
St John Bosco.
I'll be there on Sunday morning.
They've got a little 5K goingon, oh really yeah In the
Metropark.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
What time is?

Speaker 3 (23:34):
that Maybe 8.30 am or so.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I'll be there on July 19th for the 4 and then
pilgrimage down to IncarnateWord.
Tom Mevinshuck's going to play,knights of Columbus is going to
grill out.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Do you think that should be our church?
Did you guys already do thatbefore?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
I mean, we've done them all, I think.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Well, you've had a hundred and 87.
Yeah, yeah, how about thechurch being you?
The church is you what?

Speaker 2 (23:58):
I mean, I understand what you mean the body of.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Christ, the people that's right, we are.
Animated by the power of the.
Holy Spirit, speaking of theHoly Spirit, what Pentecost,
pentecost, oh nice segue.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Good job so, from the Acts of the Apostles, our first
reading.
When they—let me do this oneNow there were devout Jews from
every nation under heavenstaying in Jerusalem.
At this sound, they gathered ina large crowd, but they were
confused because each one heardthem speaking in his own
language.
They were astounded inamazement.
They asked are not all thesepeople who are speaking

(24:30):
Galileans?
How does each of us hear themin his native language?
We'll go through all thevarious places.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
So the funny thing about that list every time I've
had Mass a couple of times,occasionally at the Guardian
Stadium.
They do a.
Sunday morning Mass for staffand whomever.
Tom Hamilton oftentimes reads,and last year was this reading,
I think as well.
Is it always this reading?

(24:55):
I think so.
It was something.
It was like the Edomites andall those things.
But I remember a couple yearsago he was like reading and he's
like there were Parthians andMedes and Nagos and people from
a number of other places.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
And he just continued on.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
And so I went into him last year or two years ago,
whatever it was.
I'm like, do you do when youget like a real hard name?
You know like he's like, well,I read the media guide.
You know like, yeah, they giveyou a phonetic.
Yeah, like I'm what's?
Who's a hard baseball name?
Let's, let's go back in theannals Garcia Parra, yeah, nomar
.
Nomar Garcia Parra.
Andres Galarraga, paul Zovellawow, troy.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Tulewitzki, that's a fun name.
One of the best was the YankeePA announcer, the great Bob
Shepard.
For many years he had that nowabout a number two, derek Jeter
number two.
So he comes into the lockerroom one day and Paul Zovella, a
little-known infielder for theYankees, is standing in his
locker and Mr Shepard comes overand taps him on the shoulder

(25:52):
and goes is it Zovella orZovella?
And he goes, zovella.
He goes, thank you.
And he just turns around andwalks away and Zovella just goes
.
Who the?

Speaker 3 (26:03):
heck was that.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
And we said that was God.
And he goes.
What it was?
Vox Dei.
He was like what?
And I said you'll understandafter you're first at bat.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, but I told Tom I'm like so go to the media guy
before mass and check out allthose places.
And all those places matterbecause there's people coming in
and going out and the spirit'sworking and it's not contained
just to their language.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I thought of some really difficult baseball player
names.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Ty Cobb, yeah and Babe Ruth.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Babe Ruth, pete Rose, you can really get those
confused.
Mickey Mantle yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
So, pentecost, I like doing the typology business and
if you remember, back inGenesis, when humankind got so
arrogant, they thought theywould just build this tower up
to God and become God themselves.
There's actually a really goodshort story called the Tower in
the latest issue of the DappledThings, which brought this to

(27:01):
mind.
And then, in order to punishthem, god gave them all
different languages.
So now at Pentecost, there is aredemption of that Babel moment
where the apostles are giventhe gift of tongues so that they
can go out and take the gospelto all the corners of the earth
in all different languages.
So I like making thatconnection.
I think it's cool, very nice.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
And they do that and we're here because of it.
Si, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Indeed, gave the apostles the courage to go out
in the first place when the HolySpirit comes and descends on
them as well.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Tak.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
That's yes in Russian , russian.
Russian and dak is in Polish.
Yes and da.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Da dak, tak Si, we Ja in.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
German Ja.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Da man the linguist among us.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah, this is the gospel going out.
Yes, that's right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I say yes my Lord.
And everyone heard it in all oftheir languages.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I say yes, my Lord.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
All of our bilingual things.
Ceasing things Exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, it's been real, it's been real, it's been fun,
it's been real.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
It's been real, it's been fun.
But I wouldn't say it's beenreal fun, no.
I always enjoy coming on theold pod.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
You do, that's why we asked you back.
It's not like we're not goingto be around, so we'll see you
around at some point, and wemight show up in some kind of
form like this again at somepoint.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yes, stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
You never know, we can do the.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Ryan Seacrest.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Like a rhinestone cowboy.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
You're just going through the musical lexicon that
I owe you.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Well, I got my hair cut.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
That's true.
That automatically just equatesto the musical.
Okay, good to know.
It activates part of my brain.
I don't have that problem.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Isn't that that Holy Spirit activate?
Wasn't that a thing?
See, yeah exactly.
Well.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Father Damien, I remember when we first got
together and we met in youroffice and asked to come up with
some creative ideas, I said weshould do a podcast.
And you just looked at me andyou went yes, please.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, and I thought you were going to do it, and
then you said you do it with me,and so it's been fun, it's been
a good run.
It has been fun, it's been agood run.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Good three and a half years listening to us here in
Question of Faith.
We've certainly enjoyedproducing this podcast and you
know we'll be around, we won'tgo anywhere.
So we might even drop in alittle like maybe program note
when I'm able to say what I'mdoing here.
So I'm not leaving the diocese,I could say that much.
I'll still be working at thediocese, yeah you're a deacon,
you're doing your thing, yeahthat's right, and I'll still be

(29:30):
at St Chris as the deacon StChris, so you can catch me there
.
You can catch me.
And I'll be podcasting homilies, at least going forward.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Do you know that a group of dolphins is called a
pod I did know that and a groupof ravens is called a cast.
So when the dolphins play theravens, you're watching a
podcast.
A pod coming up against a cast.
What do you call?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
a group of peacocks?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
I don't know, I don't either.
We should ask, we should ask.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Next time on Question of Faith.
Just kidding.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
This is the last one.
What do you call?

Speaker 1 (30:05):
a group of peacocks.
Loden, loden.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Loden.
I found three.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Muster ostentation and pride Pride, Pride of
peacocks, Expectation and pride.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Pride, pride of peacocks.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
I like the word muster.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
A muster of peacocks.
Yeah, I'm going to go get somemustard and ketchup, unless I
get hit by a car.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
This is just delaying the inevitable now.
All right, we'll see you later.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Thanks everybody Take care everybody.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Have a good night, it's not goodbye.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
It's see you later.
It's see you later.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Goodbye podcast.
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