December 17, 2024 • 21 mins
In this special holiday episode of Queue Points, DJ Sir Daniel and Jay Ray unwrap a soulful gem deeply rooted in Black music history: The Temptations' iconic "Silent Night." Often referred to as "In My Mind," this timeless classic bridges generations during the holidays. But did you know there are two versions of this beloved tune, recorded a decade apart?
Join the hosts as they uncover the story behind both renditions of "Silent Night", the evolution of The Temptations, and why this song resonates so profoundly in Black culture. From the power of Black male vocal harmony to the enduring legacy of group unity, DJ Sir Daniel and Jay Ray break it down with their signature mix of knowledge, humor, and heart.
If you love Black music, vocal groups, and holiday nostalgia, this episode is your invitation to sing along, learn something new, and appreciate the art of timeless music.
Links to Content Referenced in This Episode
- "Silent Night" - The Temptations (1980)
- "Silent Night" - The Temptations (1970)
- Carols and Culture: A Dialogue about the Influence of Black Christmas Music | Queue Points Show #125
- The History of The Temptations' "Silent Night" - Queue Points' TikTok
- The Temptations' Two Silent Nights - Queue Points Magazine
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00:16 Welcome to Queue Points Podcast
01:14 The Temptations' Holiday Classic
02:20 The Two Versions of 'Silent Night'
08:14 The Impact of Black Male Voices
12:17 The Importance of Group Harmony
16:35 Closing Remarks and Subscription Info
18:32 Outro Theme
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DJ Sir Daniel (00:16):
Greetings and welcome to another episode of Queue Points podcast.
I am DJ Sir Daniel.
Jay Ray (00:22):
And my name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my government as Johnnie Ray
Kornegay, the third and Sir Daniel.
I think we're about to blow some minds
DJ Sir Daniel (00:30):
today.
Listen, we wouldn't be Queue Pointsunless we dropped a little gem in your
Christmas stockings like we always do.
So check this out.
The holidays are in full effect.
And Jay Ray, we've actually uncovered thisgem a while ago, a couple, and it's in one
of our, um, Tick tocks or what is that?
(00:51):
But yeah, in one of our tick tocks andone of our sizzle reels, but we thought
it would be very interesting to bringthis back as a matter of fact, when you
get finished watching this episode, wewant you to go and check out our "Carols
and Culture" episode in the archives.
If you're subscribed,you know how to find it.
If you're not subscribed, do that now.
Jay Ray (01:13):
Yes.
DJ Sir Daniel (01:14):
Ray, I want you to have the honor of informing our audience of
this little known fact about a soulfulChristmas classic by The Temptations.
Jay Ray (01:27):
Oh, Sir Daniel.
In Black households,
DJ Sir Daniel (01:34):
hmm.
Yes.
Jay Ray (01:36):
are certain songs that represent the holiday season, and And as Black
folks, we will name a song, something thatis not named and we refer, and many people
will refer to this song as in my mind,
DJ Sir Daniel (01:54):
The In My Mind song.
Yep.
Jay Ray (01:56):
my mind song, that is not the title of the song.
The song is actually "Silent Night".
It is the temptations versionof "Silent Night" and in Black
households during the holidays.
And on radio, you will hear thissong ad nauseum, it is beautiful.
It's the temptations.
(02:16):
It represents the holiday andit represents Black culture.
Sir Daniel, there are two versionsof "Silent Night" by the temptations
that were recorded in two completelydifferent eras of the temptations career.
And the one that we know the most.
Is the second version.
DJ Sir Daniel (02:35):
Ain't that something?
Now tell us, when wasthe first one recorded?
Jay Ray (02:41):
I am so glad you asked this Sir Daniel.
So here's how we stumbledonto this fact y'all.
So Sir Daniel just mentioned, go listento the carols and culture episode.
did this episode called carols and culturebecause we wanted to talk about the
impact of Black Christmas music, right?
(03:02):
And so we use this article, thebest Black Christmas albums of
all time ranked, it included.
"The Temptations Christmas Card",which for us was just like, Oh,
"The Temptations Christmas Card".
It has "Silent Night" on it.
That album ranked number two.
(03:23):
on that chart.
We thought nothing of it.
One day we decided to play "TheTemptations Christmas Card" and that
is the moment that we figured out,
DJ Sir Daniel (03:36):
Wait a minute.
This ain't it.
Jay Ray (03:38):
This ain't it.
DJ Sir Daniel (03:40):
What is this?
Okay.
Jay Ray (03:58):
Temptations had many lineups, so this is the third version.
Um, Dennis Edwards, Melvin Franklin,Eddie Kendricks, Paul Williams, and
Otis Williams was in this versionof The Temptations at the time.
This song,
uh, was actually done orsang live by Eddie Kendricks.
(04:19):
So Eddie Kendricks sings the 1970version of "Silent Night" from
"The Temptations Christmas Card".
This song was, um, produced by BarrettStrong And Clay McMurray and what
the, what the, uh, Temptations weredoing at the time is they were kind
(04:40):
of infusing like a little seventiesfunk into some Christmas stuff
and really became like their firstkind of foray into holiday music.
This is not the version of thesong that most people know.
of the song that most peopleknow was recorded in 1980.
So this is the version of the Temptations.
(05:00):
This version of the Temptations.
still Dennis Edwards, but it was DennisEdwards, Melvin Franklin, Richard
Street, Glenn Leonard, and Otis Williams.
Otis is in every versionof The Temptations.
Um, so, but 1980 was, this was "Give LoveAt Christmas", and, uh, this album was
produced by Gil Askey, uh, Gil Askey, andit was like a smooth jazz R& B, version
(05:29):
of, uh, the Christmas album by the temps.
they had this version of the littledrummer boy on there, which is actually
the version of the little drummerboy that most people know as well.
It's kind of like a funky grooveand also includes the timeless
temptations version, which welovingly refer to as "Silent Night".
(05:50):
In my mind.
DJ Sir Daniel (05:51):
In my mind.
No.
You know, I've been to severalChristmas parties in the past where,
you know, after a site of, I thinkit was, it was, it was a cowboy.
(06:13):
If I believe it was DJ cowboy withlove after we've, you know, getting
people up into a sweat would drop, um,"Silent Night" just to break it up in
the middle of the set and it turnedinto this huge, huge sing along and
you know, that moment of in my mind.
(06:34):
It was like, I don't care whereyou go, where you put Black people.
There's going to be a momentwhen we get to, we could become
a unified choir and we are allgoing to sing in unison in my mind.
And it's one of the most gloriousthings that you can ever witness.
And if you're a DJ out there listeningto this, try it, drop it, drop it
(06:57):
in the set and see what happens.
If you clear out the floor.
Don't blame me, but go aheadand let us know what happens.
Um, and also what I find very interestingabout this, um, this version and what
the temptations were very skillfulat doing was marrying a falsetto
Jay Ray (07:17):
hmm.
Oh yeah,
DJ Sir Daniel (07:24):
And,
Jay Ray (07:25):
Silence.
DJ Sir Daniel (07:54):
male groups to come along and give us an offering.
Of a Christmas classic.
And yeah, yeah.
Cause I don't think has Jodeciever done any Christmas classics?
Not that I can think of.
Jay Ray (08:11):
Not that I can think of.
Definitely let us know, folks.
And Sir Daniel, I'm wondering yourthoughts, because you mentioned
something that I think is reallyimportant that is missing today.
And we also included this.
So if you follow, um, QueuePointsMag, talk about this.
I think theory, DJ Sir Daniel normallyhas the theories, but I have a Jay Ray
DJ Sir Daniel (08:36):
It's Jay Ray's time.
Yes.
Jay Ray (08:39):
I think that one of the reasons this song endures is because
of the distinction of the Black malevoice is very clear on this song,
DJ Sir Daniel (08:56):
Yes.
Jay Ray (08:57):
So,
DJ Sir Daniel (08:58):
The range.
Yes.
Mm hmm.
Hmm.
Jay Ray (09:02):
which is a gravelly, you've got an Otis Williams in the, in the,
in the bottom, you know what I mean?
so there's this very clear rangeof voices, but it's all anchored
by this distinctly deep male voicethat we do not hear music and
(09:26):
pop culture pretty much anymore.
Right?
so I'm also thinking that thereason why this song indoors, um,
so much is it also represents,um, that connection to that sound.
Of voices which we just don't getbecause one we don't even have a
lot of vocal groups anymore Thetemptations were a proper vocal group
DJ Sir Daniel (10:06):
days.
Not in groups.
And just to, so Jodeci doesnot have a Christmas album.
However, like Casey and Jojo havea few like Christmas or holiday
offerings on their solo projects.
And I'm pretty certain maybe agospel project here or there, but as
far as the male groups of concern.
(10:26):
Yeah, we don't have that anymore.
I think, and we've discussed this.
We have a couple of episodes wherewe celebrate Black male voices.
Um, I think it was a series.
We talked about, uh, Teddy Pentagrass,um, Barry White, Isaac Hayes.
Make sure you go back and check outthose episodes because we celebrate those
Black voices that we don't get anymore.
(10:48):
Uh, we talked about Maxwell who, uh, Andhimself can, has been able to do both.
Jay Ray (10:54):
Yeah.
DJ Sir Daniel (10:54):
will give you a falsetto and then he'll go down in the
basement and give you something else.
So there's a range and maybe it's areflection of, Oh God, I don't want
to sound, start sounding like one ofthose podcasts about, well, you know,
Black men nowadays, or, you know, Ithink it might be a reflection of what
people are attempting to be, what peoplefeel like, um, Their performances of
(11:25):
masculinity need to be these days.
Um, and it also reflects the lack ofgroups, maybe reflect the fact that
people don't, there's not a lot ofunison anymore, or the idea of doing
things together as a team might bepart, you know, just, just theories.
(11:45):
You know, we good for a good conspiracytheory here on Queue Points, but it
might just be a reflection of the time.
And that's why we'renot seeing a whole lot.
Of male groups like that anymore, youknow, one year, of course, a voice to
men, his sons have formed a super group.
So we'll see what happens with them.
They've been working on music for awhile now, and they sound amazing.
(12:08):
They definitely earned it from their dad.
And so, um, I don't know, we'll see.
Maybe it will change withinthe next couple of years.
Jay Ray (12:17):
So Daniel, I think you said that's really important and the holidays,
I think the reasons why songs likethis endure is they also remind us of
the importance of coming together in
DJ Sir Daniel (12:33):
Mm hmm.
Jay Ray (12:34):
and groups like The Temptations, to your point,
people working together, right?
are people who do leadthings in groups, right?
But the groups themselves on each other.
(12:55):
Um, SWV is an amazing group becausethose three women rely on each other.
Say what you want to say.
Miss Coco is the bomb.
Like Sir Daniel had a theory that, yo,Coco, we talk about who are the voices of
the nineties and you know, we name all ofthese people, but it might be Coco, right?
DJ Sir Daniel (13:15):
Listen, you know, I said it that y'all can come after me.
I know we, we've deemed people, the,you know, the, the voice of the,
of the nineties and whatnot, but Ireally do believe that Coco is the
voice of the nineties, but let's,we'll save that for another episode.
Jay Ray (13:29):
Absolutely.
And, uh, but I think what that,what the, what we have to remember
is, and the reason why I bring thatgroup up is because they still,
Coco still needs Lili and Taj.
DJ Sir Daniel (13:41):
Totally.
Jay Ray (13:42):
a role in that group,
DJ Sir Daniel (13:44):
They absolutely do.
Jay Ray (13:45):
There's this, this is an aside, but I think it's really important.
There was this, uh, there's thisTikTok when they were doing week
on the Arsenio Hall show, acapella.
Taj, Coco was singing,Coco was singing down.
Um, Taj and Lili come in with thatweak Arsenio falls out because all
of a sudden voices now come togetheryou are like, Oh, I completely get
DJ Sir Daniel (14:13):
Now we get why they're sisters with voices.
Jay Ray (14:18):
The temptations.
that.
DJ Sir Daniel (14:23):
Yes.
Jay Ray (14:23):
And I think when we hear "Silent Night", particularly
in my mind version, the
DJ Sir Daniel (14:31):
Yeah.
Agreed.
Okay.
Jay Ray (14:47):
and that's a, that's a beautiful thing.
It's in our D it's in our DNA.
that's why I think, um, that songindoors one, it's just a beautiful
rendition of "Silent Night", period.
Both versions, by the way,are really, really good.
So you should definitely go back andlisten to the Christmas card version,
uh, with leads by Eddie Kendricks.
Um, check it out just so youknow, but both versions of
(15:10):
these are unique and distinct.
And I thought that was interestingtoo, where you have one group, but
two versions of the same song thatare miles apart from each other.
The only thing connectingthem is the group themselves.
Yes.
DJ Sir Daniel (15:36):
don't understand the vocal arrangements.
And we're done.
We've been diving into that a lot latelyhere on Queue Points, um, on that aspect,
because that's a very important aspectof creating music, creating songs so that
you can have different versions of Of thesame song that will live forever and grow
the legs of a caterpillar and continueto, to crawl through our generations.
(16:01):
But yes, the idea though, ofcoming together and working is what
we're about here on Queue Points.
Um, I couldn't do theshow without Jay Ray.
I think I like to think that he cando it without me, you know, right?
Jay Ray (16:16):
I could not, there is no Queue Points without,
I couldn't do it without you.
And thank you for you notbeing able to do it without me.
I think that's important.
That's what this also I thinkrepresents is the coming together
during this holiday season.
DJ Sir Daniel (16:34):
Absolutely.
Well, we come together to createQueue Points, uh, content for
you and we enjoy doing it and wewant you to find out about it.
So there's things that you need todo in order to be kept in the know.
Jay Ray, tell him right now, takeyour part and tell him slowly.
And while you do that, I'll.
(16:55):
I'm narrate behind.
No, I'm going to do the, you'regoing to, you're going to say your
spiel and I'm going to narrate it in,um, in the base voice after, yeah,
Jay Ray (17:04):
Well, well, thank you.
Um,
DJ Sir Daniel (17:08):
go ahead.
Jay Ray (17:08):
tickled me.
So I don't know what he's goingto do y'all, but, uh, thank
you all so much for joining us.
DJ Sir Daniel (17:15):
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Jay Ray (17:18):
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DJ Sir Daniel (18:03):
You know, I don't have no sense and y'all already
know it, but what I do know is thatin this life, you have a choice.
You can either pick up the needleor you can let the record play.
I'm DJ Sir Daniel,
Jay Ray (18:15):
My name is Jay Ray, y'all.
DJ Sir Daniel (18:18):
and this is Queue Points podcast, dropping the
needle on Black music history.
We will see you on the next go round.
Peace.
Peace.
Greetings and welcome to another episode of Queue Points podcast.
I am DJ Sir Daniel.
Jay Ray (00:22):
And my name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my government as Johnnie Ray
Kornegay, the third and Sir Daniel.
I think we're about to blow some minds
DJ Sir Daniel (00:30):
today.
Listen, we wouldn't be Queue Pointsunless we dropped a little gem in your
Christmas stockings like we always do.
So check this out.
The holidays are in full effect.
And Jay Ray, we've actually uncovered thisgem a while ago, a couple, and it's in one
of our, um, Tick tocks or what is that?
(00:51):
But yeah, in one of our tick tocks andone of our sizzle reels, but we thought
it would be very interesting to bringthis back as a matter of fact, when you
get finished watching this episode, wewant you to go and check out our "Carols
and Culture" episode in the archives.
If you're subscribed,you know how to find it.
If you're not subscribed, do that now.
Jay Ray (01:13):
Yes.
DJ Sir Daniel (01:14):
Ray, I want you to have the honor of informing our audience of
this little known fact about a soulfulChristmas classic by The Temptations.
Jay Ray (01:27):
Oh, Sir Daniel.
In Black households,
DJ Sir Daniel (01:34):
hmm.
Yes.
Jay Ray (01:36):
are certain songs that represent the holiday season, and And as Black
folks, we will name a song, something thatis not named and we refer, and many people
will refer to this song as in my mind,
DJ Sir Daniel (01:54):
The In My Mind song.
Yep.
Jay Ray (01:56):
my mind song, that is not the title of the song.
The song is actually "Silent Night".
It is the temptations versionof "Silent Night" and in Black
households during the holidays.
And on radio, you will hear thissong ad nauseum, it is beautiful.
It's the temptations.
(02:16):
It represents the holiday andit represents Black culture.
Sir Daniel, there are two versionsof "Silent Night" by the temptations
that were recorded in two completelydifferent eras of the temptations career.
And the one that we know the most.
Is the second version.
DJ Sir Daniel (02:35):
Ain't that something?
Now tell us, when wasthe first one recorded?
Jay Ray (02:41):
I am so glad you asked this Sir Daniel.
So here's how we stumbledonto this fact y'all.
So Sir Daniel just mentioned, go listento the carols and culture episode.
did this episode called carols and culturebecause we wanted to talk about the
impact of Black Christmas music, right?
(03:02):
And so we use this article, thebest Black Christmas albums of
all time ranked, it included.
"The Temptations Christmas Card",which for us was just like, Oh,
"The Temptations Christmas Card".
It has "Silent Night" on it.
That album ranked number two.
(03:23):
on that chart.
We thought nothing of it.
One day we decided to play "TheTemptations Christmas Card" and that
is the moment that we figured out,
DJ Sir Daniel (03:36):
Wait a minute.
This ain't it.
Jay Ray (03:38):
This ain't it.
DJ Sir Daniel (03:40):
What is this?
Okay.
Jay Ray (03:58):
Temptations had many lineups, so this is the third version.
Um, Dennis Edwards, Melvin Franklin,Eddie Kendricks, Paul Williams, and
Otis Williams was in this versionof The Temptations at the time.
This song,
uh, was actually done orsang live by Eddie Kendricks.
(04:19):
So Eddie Kendricks sings the 1970version of "Silent Night" from
"The Temptations Christmas Card".
This song was, um, produced by BarrettStrong And Clay McMurray and what
the, what the, uh, Temptations weredoing at the time is they were kind
(04:40):
of infusing like a little seventiesfunk into some Christmas stuff
and really became like their firstkind of foray into holiday music.
This is not the version of thesong that most people know.
of the song that most peopleknow was recorded in 1980.
So this is the version of the Temptations.
(05:00):
This version of the Temptations.
still Dennis Edwards, but it was DennisEdwards, Melvin Franklin, Richard
Street, Glenn Leonard, and Otis Williams.
Otis is in every versionof The Temptations.
Um, so, but 1980 was, this was "Give LoveAt Christmas", and, uh, this album was
produced by Gil Askey, uh, Gil Askey, andit was like a smooth jazz R& B, version
(05:29):
of, uh, the Christmas album by the temps.
they had this version of the littledrummer boy on there, which is actually
the version of the little drummerboy that most people know as well.
It's kind of like a funky grooveand also includes the timeless
temptations version, which welovingly refer to as "Silent Night".
(05:50):
In my mind.
DJ Sir Daniel (05:51):
In my mind.
No.
You know, I've been to severalChristmas parties in the past where,
you know, after a site of, I thinkit was, it was, it was a cowboy.
(06:13):
If I believe it was DJ cowboy withlove after we've, you know, getting
people up into a sweat would drop, um,"Silent Night" just to break it up in
the middle of the set and it turnedinto this huge, huge sing along and
you know, that moment of in my mind.
(06:34):
It was like, I don't care whereyou go, where you put Black people.
There's going to be a momentwhen we get to, we could become
a unified choir and we are allgoing to sing in unison in my mind.
And it's one of the most gloriousthings that you can ever witness.
And if you're a DJ out there listeningto this, try it, drop it, drop it
(06:57):
in the set and see what happens.
If you clear out the floor.
Don't blame me, but go aheadand let us know what happens.
Um, and also what I find very interestingabout this, um, this version and what
the temptations were very skillfulat doing was marrying a falsetto
Jay Ray (07:17):
hmm.
Oh yeah,
DJ Sir Daniel (07:24):
And,
Jay Ray (07:25):
Silence.
DJ Sir Daniel (07:54):
male groups to come along and give us an offering.
Of a Christmas classic.
And yeah, yeah.
Cause I don't think has Jodeciever done any Christmas classics?
Not that I can think of.
Jay Ray (08:11):
Not that I can think of.
Definitely let us know, folks.
And Sir Daniel, I'm wondering yourthoughts, because you mentioned
something that I think is reallyimportant that is missing today.
And we also included this.
So if you follow, um, QueuePointsMag, talk about this.
I think theory, DJ Sir Daniel normallyhas the theories, but I have a Jay Ray
DJ Sir Daniel (08:36):
It's Jay Ray's time.
Yes.
Jay Ray (08:39):
I think that one of the reasons this song endures is because
of the distinction of the Black malevoice is very clear on this song,
DJ Sir Daniel (08:56):
Yes.
Jay Ray (08:57):
So,
DJ Sir Daniel (08:58):
The range.
Yes.
Mm hmm.
Hmm.
Jay Ray (09:02):
which is a gravelly, you've got an Otis Williams in the, in the,
in the bottom, you know what I mean?
so there's this very clear rangeof voices, but it's all anchored
by this distinctly deep male voicethat we do not hear music and
(09:26):
pop culture pretty much anymore.
Right?
so I'm also thinking that thereason why this song indoors, um,
so much is it also represents,um, that connection to that sound.
Of voices which we just don't getbecause one we don't even have a
lot of vocal groups anymore Thetemptations were a proper vocal group
DJ Sir Daniel (10:06):
days.
Not in groups.
And just to, so Jodeci doesnot have a Christmas album.
However, like Casey and Jojo havea few like Christmas or holiday
offerings on their solo projects.
And I'm pretty certain maybe agospel project here or there, but as
far as the male groups of concern.
(10:26):
Yeah, we don't have that anymore.
I think, and we've discussed this.
We have a couple of episodes wherewe celebrate Black male voices.
Um, I think it was a series.
We talked about, uh, Teddy Pentagrass,um, Barry White, Isaac Hayes.
Make sure you go back and check outthose episodes because we celebrate those
Black voices that we don't get anymore.
(10:48):
Uh, we talked about Maxwell who, uh, Andhimself can, has been able to do both.
Jay Ray (10:54):
Yeah.
DJ Sir Daniel (10:54):
will give you a falsetto and then he'll go down in the
basement and give you something else.
So there's a range and maybe it's areflection of, Oh God, I don't want
to sound, start sounding like one ofthose podcasts about, well, you know,
Black men nowadays, or, you know, Ithink it might be a reflection of what
people are attempting to be, what peoplefeel like, um, Their performances of
(11:25):
masculinity need to be these days.
Um, and it also reflects the lack ofgroups, maybe reflect the fact that
people don't, there's not a lot ofunison anymore, or the idea of doing
things together as a team might bepart, you know, just, just theories.
(11:45):
You know, we good for a good conspiracytheory here on Queue Points, but it
might just be a reflection of the time.
And that's why we'renot seeing a whole lot.
Of male groups like that anymore, youknow, one year, of course, a voice to
men, his sons have formed a super group.
So we'll see what happens with them.
They've been working on music for awhile now, and they sound amazing.
(12:08):
They definitely earned it from their dad.
And so, um, I don't know, we'll see.
Maybe it will change withinthe next couple of years.
Jay Ray (12:17):
So Daniel, I think you said that's really important and the holidays,
I think the reasons why songs likethis endure is they also remind us of
the importance of coming together in
DJ Sir Daniel (12:33):
Mm hmm.
Jay Ray (12:34):
and groups like The Temptations, to your point,
people working together, right?
are people who do leadthings in groups, right?
But the groups themselves on each other.
(12:55):
Um, SWV is an amazing group becausethose three women rely on each other.
Say what you want to say.
Miss Coco is the bomb.
Like Sir Daniel had a theory that, yo,Coco, we talk about who are the voices of
the nineties and you know, we name all ofthese people, but it might be Coco, right?
DJ Sir Daniel (13:15):
Listen, you know, I said it that y'all can come after me.
I know we, we've deemed people, the,you know, the, the voice of the,
of the nineties and whatnot, but Ireally do believe that Coco is the
voice of the nineties, but let's,we'll save that for another episode.
Jay Ray (13:29):
Absolutely.
And, uh, but I think what that,what the, what we have to remember
is, and the reason why I bring thatgroup up is because they still,
Coco still needs Lili and Taj.
DJ Sir Daniel (13:41):
Totally.
Jay Ray (13:42):
a role in that group,
DJ Sir Daniel (13:44):
They absolutely do.
Jay Ray (13:45):
There's this, this is an aside, but I think it's really important.
There was this, uh, there's thisTikTok when they were doing week
on the Arsenio Hall show, acapella.
Taj, Coco was singing,Coco was singing down.
Um, Taj and Lili come in with thatweak Arsenio falls out because all
of a sudden voices now come togetheryou are like, Oh, I completely get
DJ Sir Daniel (14:13):
Now we get why they're sisters with voices.
Jay Ray (14:18):
The temptations.
that.
DJ Sir Daniel (14:23):
Yes.
Jay Ray (14:23):
And I think when we hear "Silent Night", particularly
in my mind version, the
DJ Sir Daniel (14:31):
Yeah.
Agreed.
Okay.
Jay Ray (14:47):
and that's a, that's a beautiful thing.
It's in our D it's in our DNA.
that's why I think, um, that songindoors one, it's just a beautiful
rendition of "Silent Night", period.
Both versions, by the way,are really, really good.
So you should definitely go back andlisten to the Christmas card version,
uh, with leads by Eddie Kendricks.
Um, check it out just so youknow, but both versions of
(15:10):
these are unique and distinct.
And I thought that was interestingtoo, where you have one group, but
two versions of the same song thatare miles apart from each other.
The only thing connectingthem is the group themselves.
Yes.
DJ Sir Daniel (15:36):
don't understand the vocal arrangements.
And we're done.
We've been diving into that a lot latelyhere on Queue Points, um, on that aspect,
because that's a very important aspectof creating music, creating songs so that
you can have different versions of Of thesame song that will live forever and grow
the legs of a caterpillar and continueto, to crawl through our generations.
(16:01):
But yes, the idea though, ofcoming together and working is what
we're about here on Queue Points.
Um, I couldn't do theshow without Jay Ray.
I think I like to think that he cando it without me, you know, right?
Jay Ray (16:16):
I could not, there is no Queue Points without,
I couldn't do it without you.
And thank you for you notbeing able to do it without me.
I think that's important.
That's what this also I thinkrepresents is the coming together
during this holiday season.
DJ Sir Daniel (16:34):
Absolutely.
Well, we come together to createQueue Points, uh, content for
you and we enjoy doing it and wewant you to find out about it.
So there's things that you need todo in order to be kept in the know.
Jay Ray, tell him right now, takeyour part and tell him slowly.
And while you do that, I'll.
(16:55):
I'm narrate behind.
No, I'm going to do the, you'regoing to, you're going to say your
spiel and I'm going to narrate it in,um, in the base voice after, yeah,
Jay Ray (17:04):
Well, well, thank you.
Um,
DJ Sir Daniel (17:08):
go ahead.
Jay Ray (17:08):
tickled me.
So I don't know what he's goingto do y'all, but, uh, thank
you all so much for joining us.
DJ Sir Daniel (17:15):
We want to thank you.
Jay Ray (17:18):
if you can hear our voices, if you can see our place, our
faces, please subscribe wherever
DJ Sir Daniel (17:23):
on and subscribe.
Jay Ray (17:24):
share the show with your friends, family, colleagues.
If you love Queue Points, chancesare they will love Queue Points
DJ Sir Daniel (17:29):
You know, you do
Jay Ray (17:33):
Please visit our website at Queue Points.
com where you can checkout our newsletter.
You can check out otherepisodes of the show.
Um, also last but not least, you
DJ Sir Daniel (17:45):
not least y'all
Jay Ray (17:47):
you can shop our store at store.
Queue Points.
DJ Sir Daniel (17:51):
get you some merch,
though.
You're right.
Jay Ray (17:58):
We thank you so much.
DJ Sir Daniel (18:03):
You know, I don't have no sense and y'all already
know it, but what I do know is thatin this life, you have a choice.
You can either pick up the needleor you can let the record play.
I'm DJ Sir Daniel,
Jay Ray (18:15):
My name is Jay Ray, y'all.
DJ Sir Daniel (18:18):
and this is Queue Points podcast, dropping the
needle on Black music history.
We will see you on the next go round.
Peace.
Peace.
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