The Queued4Christ Show with Marcus J. Little: "No More Excuses: How Discipline Births Determination"
August 30, 2025 • 60 mins
What happens when God keeps waking you up through unimaginable loss, health battles, and personal struggles? Marcus J. Little discovered it means destiny is attached to your life.
In this soul-stirring conversation, Marcus shares his remarkable journey from seeking church notoriety to discovering authentic purpose. With disarming honesty, he admits his initial ministry motivation was simply wanting to be a "local celebrity" before God refined his heart through profound trials. After losing five family members in 2019 and battling COVID hospitalizations where he "woke up mad" each day, Marcus found himself at a crossroads of belief.
The turning point came through an unexpected encounter when a young man from "the hood" told him, "Mr. Marcus, I could listen to you talk all day." This divine appointment revealed his calling to reach people who might never enter church doors but desperately need hope. Marcus explains how God positioned him to speak life into people from all walks of life—"from the church person to the person in the club."
Marcus offers transformative wisdom about gifts, explaining that "your gift will make room for you" isn't just about external opportunities but creating internal space for God to pour more in. "If I'm full, there's nothing to be poured in because there's no room," he shares. This perspective challenges us to release our gifts generously rather than hoarding them.
The conversation builds to Marcus's powerful framework of the three Ds: discipline, determination, and destiny. "Determination doesn't get birthed until discipline is conceived," he explains, encouraging listeners to take one small step daily rather than attempting everything at once. His rallying cry of "No More Excuses" has become both personal mantra and ministry focus.
Ready to move past what's holding you back? Follow Marcus @Iammarcjai on social platforms and visit Iammarcjai.org to learn about his upcoming "No More Excuses" experience in November.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Thank you.
I just thank God, lest, as Ican be, therefore, I'm gonna
lift your name high.
We just kicking it and havinghappy conversation.
(00:29):
Cute for Christ.
I'm so very grateful for thejourney.
Brought me a mighty long way asI praise and I pray, give
thanks for your grace and yourmercy.
See, I'm a living testimony.
Went from living vagrant phonyFull of acrimony.
Dang had to get right whenChrist God came.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We'll see you next time, thank you hey, hey, hey
everyone, this is Kiana, yourcreator and the host of Q for
Christ, and I want to get onhere first.
I want to say thank you toeveryone that has liked, you
shared, you commented, whateveryou done.
I'm so excited and I'm so happy, and I tell you I do not take
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this for granted, because thisis something that I take very
serious, right, and it's not apunishment.
Being a vessel for Christ, it'sa privilege, and so one thing I
try to tell people is that makesure that whenever God calls
you, you do it to the best ofyour ability, right?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So, anyways, I don't know who that's for, but anyways
, I'm so excited tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Make sure you go ahead on and share you like this
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Share this with someone thatmay need this.
We are queued for Christtonight and this is another
success on purpose and I'm superexcited to be here.
Make sure you are going to thewebsite at wwwqforchristcom.
(03:12):
Okay, you know I got somethingbig coming up so you do not want
to miss it.
All right, and I promise youyou're going to be blessed, all
right.
So, anyways, I'm super excitedabout tonight.
Like I said, we are back, right.
I'm telling you when I sayseason four of Q for Christ,
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that is consistency in you know,at his best right.
When I tell you that the enemywants to come and he wants to
come steal and kill.
But I have prevailed and keptgoing.
And so we are back with seasonfour of the Success on Purpose
and the Cube for Christ show andI'm so excited.
(03:58):
And tonight I have such anincredible person that I'm
telling you you don't want tomiss this, okay.
So, anyways, anyways, I'm goingto go ahead on and bring him in
Tonight.
I have the special honor andprivilege to have Marcus J
Little on here.
How are you, Marcus?
(04:18):
I?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
am amazing, Kiana.
How are you this evening?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You know what, like I said a few minutes ago, I can't
complain, you know.
I can but it ain't going tochange a thing, absolutely.
It's still going to be hotoutside.
It's still.
I can complain about the heat.
It's still going to be hot, Ican complain about it?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's definitely going to be hot.
You know that Georgia heat isdifferent.
It's different.
Georgia heat is different.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Look, if you ain't been to Georgia, child, I'm
telling you, the weather isdefinitely definitely different.
We could have well, not lately,but usually it'd be winter in
the morning and spring in theevening, and there's something
like it just goes.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Right, right, exactly .
And then it's been there's rain.
Lately it's trying to seem likeit wants to rain every day now
at least for 10 minutes, rightyeah.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Like you know, that's that Florida weather, though
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Like Florida, would rain at any given moment.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
At any given moment.
It was like that when I livedin Jacksonville they said
anytime between 4 and 6, justknow it's going to rain, so plan
accordingly, right.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Right, so that's what I'm saying.
So, anyway, as I said, all thatto say that I'm doing okay.
So I'm super excited to haveyou on here.
I can tell y'all a little bitabout how we met.
We've been knowing each otherfor years and years and years
(05:54):
and years.
I'm telling you we both sung inthis choir called Young
Choraleers.
And you know about the YoungCorleas, right, especially if
you're around our age, like inthe 40s.
You know who the young Corleasare and I'm telling you, you
(06:17):
know, matter of fact, the youngCorleas have birthed some very,
very incredible people out of it.
You know, and anyways, we'vebeen knowing each other since
I'm like teenage, like I was ateenager.
I'm super excited to have youon here and to be able to catch
(06:37):
up with you, and so why don'tyou just kind of let everybody
know who Marcus is?
Because I can tell you a littlebit about him, but I know he
can do it better for himself.
So if you just let everybodyknow who you are, Well yeah,
marcus Little, actually born inSeattle, washington.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I tell people that, even though I came back, I came
to make when I was a kid, so itdoesn't really count.
I said that one time tosomebody and they was like, oh
well, I got some family.
I'm like, no, don't ask meanything about Seattle.
I was just born out there,right, but grew up in Macon,
georgia, pk to the core.
(07:20):
Both parents and preachersGraduated from the amazing
Central High School, the onlyhigh school in Macon that
matters.
Hold up, hold up.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You're not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Oh yeah, I just thought I'd put you up my school
is not here anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We're not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh, never mind.
Yes, you went to that school, Igot you, but from a family of
six, five boys, one girl.
Pretty much all of the childrenare, you know, church raised.
So but just came, came out of achurch family, been in church
pretty much all my life.
(08:02):
Literally went off to school,played basketball at Alabama
State One of the pivotal partsof my life.
Just really enjoyed being asports fanatic and now currently
have stepped out into that gift.
That's always been there and soI'm currently still here in
Warner Robins in middle Georgia.
(08:23):
Lived in Jacksonville for awhile while lived in Charlotte
for a while.
Shout out to Mecklenburg County.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I lived in Charlotte too, for about three, three and
a half four years.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Love me some Charlotte, love me some
Charlotte.
And so here back in middleGeorgia, you know, for the time
being, just see what God sayswith that and just enjoy life.
I am at a point now just had abirthday in June, so turned 53.
(08:57):
Feel real good about that.
You know, 25 years ago I felt,you know, by the time you're 53,
you'd be rode in a wheelchairlooking crazy.
But thank God that it was notmy lot in life.
So, yeah, just enjoying lifeand, oh man, just I enjoy every
minute at this point.
So I'm in a great space rightnow.
So, and I thank you so much forallowing me to be a part of q
to christ, I just love whatyou're doing.
(09:18):
So, yeah, that's, that's me ina nutshell well, you are welcome
.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You know, after you said 53, I was like wait a
minute, Hold on.
I don't look 53 at all, but no,I'm excited to have you on here
because being able to displaythe people that have been around
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me, I'm excited about it, likeliterally.
So, anyways, anyways, we arenot going to hold you all alone.
I'm going to say a quick prayerbefore we go further, because
you know I like to always usherin the Holy spirit.
And and then, once we go anyfurther, before we go any
further, and then then we'll godive into the interview and see
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how Marcus have been cued forChrist, how he's been cued to be
able to do what he has beencalled to do.
So, anyways, I'm going to say aquick prayer.
All right, dear Heavenly Father.
God, I say thank you for thistime that you have carved out.
God, I say thank you forallowing us to be able to just
(10:26):
have the beings of our life, god, to be able to move and be able
to just say thank you foreverything that you're doing,
god, we know that it's all you.
God, we thank you now forallowing us to be here.
We thank you now for evenallowing Marcus to be able to
sit with us, god, and we ask youto touch him, god, anything
that he is doing, god, we askyou to turn it into gold.
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God, god, we know that you areleading and guiding him, and so
we thank you for what you aredoing in his life and even the
people that are surrounding him.
God, we ask you to just go withhis family, his children, god,
and so we just thank you foreverything that you're doing,
god.
We ask you for the ones thatare here, god, that are watching
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God, to touch them in a mightyspecial way.
God, we know that you know theneeds, god, that your people
need, and we ask you now to beable to say something that will
allow them to ask what they mustdo to be saved.
So we thank you for everythingthat you're doing.
We thank you for all the lovethat you have given us, god, and
shown us, god, because it couldbe different, but we are here,
and so we thank you for justbeing in our lives and in our
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presence, and so we just loveyou.
We honor you, god, for the restof this evening, and we are
going to give your name topraise.
It's in Jesus' name that I pray, amen.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Amen Amen.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Amen.
Look, I'm a prayer warrior.
Look, I love you.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I love you.
That's one of my things I'mtelling you I'm about to say
we're about to have a moment ofintercession, let's go then.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
We're going to walk there.
If we have, to Come on nowlet's go, then we're gonna walk
there.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
If we have to come on now you don't you know?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
yes, absolutely no.
So, anyways, I'm super excitedto um to have you on here.
I just want you um to just kindof tell everybody um about you
know, when you um decided, howdid you get to this point where
you were like you know what, I'mready to step into my calling.
(12:33):
What cued you to say let me,let me get up and do this?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
yeah, um, I, I was one of those where there was
this expectation with me all mylife, from being a kid coming up
.
You know, I was that kid.
You know where, if there was 20children that got in trouble,
they'll fuss at all the children.
(12:59):
Then they'll get to me and saywell, you, you of all people,
you should know better.
You know, and that wasirritating because I'm like I
want to be bad just like theother kids.
I got to be different, you know.
And so, growing up in, growingup in church, you know, my
father had a very impactfulministry, so there was always
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that spotlight and so I was that, that child that was like, yeah
, no, I don't want to do thatand I'm gonna try to rebel on
purpose, um, you know, and so itbecame.
It became a piece for a while,um, and then got into ministry,
um, and I knew it was a part ofme, because my approach to
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ministry initially had illintent.
I initially got involved inchurch because I wanted the
notoriety, I wanted to be alocal celebrity and I embraced
my ministry, calling inJacksonville back in 1996.
God, that's so long ago, jesusChrist.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I was 19.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
As soon as it came out, I was like wait a minute.
But yeah, and it was reallybecause I was just fascinated.
You know, at the church I wasat, I was just fascinated by
everything that went along withit.
So initially it wasn't genuine,and I tell people that, you
know, sometimes people don'tlike to hear that.
I was just fascinated byeverything that went along with
it.
So initially it wasn't genuine,and I tell people that, you
know, sometimes people don'tlike to hear that.
But yeah, it wasn't.
I'm like no, I just I justwanted to be popular and as time
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progressed, you know, I wentthrough a lot of things in
reference to just God kind oftugging on me, and so it got to
the point where, just in thelast couple of years, you know,
being a part of church, being apart of ministry whether it's
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musician, whether it's preaching, whether it's teaching, whether
it's administration I alwayshad this heartbeat of providing
hope for people.
And so, you know, but it waskind of a but I don't know if I
want to be a pastor.
You know, I'm like God, I knowthat you called me to pour into
people and sometimes I feel likepeople rush into what they
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consider that box.
And so you know, like, well, Igot to get behind a podium and
let me go get this building here, and you know, get me, you know
, some signs and some flyers,and I'm going to be a pastor,
you know.
So, in that, in the midst ofministry, I began seeing that
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there were people that wouldnever, ever come to the located
building of our church.
Wow, but there was still acalling on my life to be an
encouragement to them.
Right, and you know, and therewere people who would probably
immediately turn off theirreceptor as soon as you say
anything.
You know what they considerreligious, consider religious.
(16:07):
And so God just kind ofpositioned me in different
spaces to where I would be anencouragement to people in all
aspects.
And so I'll never forget walkinga friend of mine.
Her and her companion, herboyfriend, came by the house and
they wanted to go swimming,that was the thing, and he came
to the house to get the food,and so, as they were leaving, I
was just walking them to the carand he was a young man that was
(16:28):
, you know, you could tell he'sfrom the hood.
So we was just having smalltalk and this was about three,
four years ago and I'll neverforget him looking at me and
saying man, mr Marcus, I'm goingto tell you, bro, man, I could
sit and listen to you talk allday.
I said, okay, I'm just saying,you're just so encouraging man.
He made a statement.
(16:49):
Then he was like man, youshould be a motivational speaker
.
I kind of laughed it off.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Over time, I started recognizing that God started
putting me in position to speakto people who were probably
never done the church doors, youknow, but yet he gives me that
ability to give them hope.
And so lately I've beenhashtagging all of my posts with
this phrase no more excuses.
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Because that's kind of what Inoticed I was doing and it just
came.
That's kind of what I noticed Iwas doing.
And um, and it just came.
And then, being at work, youknow, we do what we call a
beginning of the shift huddle,and um, it got to the point
where other team members fromother departments would come and
be a part of our huddle.
And God brought the exact samephrase back to me when another
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young man who works out therewalked up to me and he was like
hey, bro, I ain't gonna lie, man, I had to ask my supervisor,
can I be a couple minutes late?
Because, man, here you talk,man, and how you talk to your
team bro, hey bro, for real, man, bro, you got it, man.
You know, I was just like, okay,god, I said you just, you just
brought this full circle, and soit just encouraged me to just
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say, okay, it's no longer aboutthe notoriety.
It's no longer about trying tobe a local celebrity.
It's about being able toprovide hope for people and
being in tune with what Godwants me to say, because I don't
want them to feel like they'recoming to a church service, but
they're going to always hear you.
They're going to hear who Godis through me, because that's
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the essence of who I am.
So it just became, it became athing that was birthed out of
that young man's statement rightwhen he walked, when I walked
him and his girlfriend to thecar, um, to this point now,
where this is, and it is, youknow when I say a passion and a
heartbeat for me.
I love it, I absolutely love it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I, you know, I love that.
You know because, um, one thingthat you said is that a lot of
people are some people may noteven step foot in a church you
know what I'm saying and somepeople, um, you can be that
people will only see, you knowwhat I'm saying, you know?
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and so sometimes we have torealize that our calling is not
just behind a pulpit.
And that was one of the thingsthat I had to realize is that,
oh, I do have a calling, butit's uncommon, as, as my pastor
would call it uncommon, becauseit's not behind the pulpit.
Everybody don't have to bebehind the pulpit Now.
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Granted, you know, we might endup there every now and then.
But that is not our calling.
Our calling is to be out in themarketplace or out telling
people about how you couldchange your life.
Right, because that is the mainthing.
We don't want to, you know,just hit them upside the head
(19:50):
with the Bible, but we want themto be able to know that it's
there, right?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
And I love that.
I love that what you said,because a lot of people don't
realize that.
And when you said that, thatwas so transparent about you
saying that you wanted to bejust the local celebrity.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Because there's a lot of people that are in ministry
for the wrong reason.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yes, absolutely, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They done got that they done, got that that 501c3
and they just like yeah, yeah,you know.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I said sometimes it's unfortunate.
I came across so many peoplethat and I remember the first
time I said it it really hithome for me.
I said sometimes you'll havepeople that will start a church
only because they have no levelof authority in any other aspect
of their life.
Wow, and now they want to bethat person.
You know I have four membersand three of my members are
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armor bearers.
Right, you know.
I mean you know, because I wantto be that person, I want to be
acknowledged as that guy.
You know and we know,especially the African-American
church.
That's one of those pieces whereyou know, because when I grew
up you were supposed to, man,don't do that.
That's the pastor you know andthat's I mean that.
You know meeting people.
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Yeah, you know, like I havepeople.
I have people sometimes try tocorrect me because I would
introduce myself as, hey, I'mMarcus Little.
Oh, you should tell him you'reReverend.
My mom called me Marcus andwhen God talks to me he don't
come and be like Pastor Little.
Oh, he says Marcus.
That's what I hear in my spirit.
But, yeah, it's one of thosepieces where I was guilty of
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that.
I was, I was guilty of that.
So I'm thankful God allowed meto live long enough to be pulled
out of that stigma and thatmindset.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Man, that is so good, like literally, you know,
because, like I said, it's a lotof people that won't even
acknowledge the fact why theystarted ministry you know what
I'm saying, right, you know it'sbecause people, you know,
anyways, it's just, it's peopleout there that is just really
really leading people the wrongdirection and you're not doing
they doing a whole bunch of lipservice.
So, anyway, were there anybodythat I mean besides that young
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man, because I know that beingable to get in, in in your
calling and being able to dowhat God has called you to do
Sometimes you have to be aroundsomeone Were there any kind of
mentors that say you know what,let me, you know, you were like,
this is what you know I want tobe like, or or whatnot?
Were there any kind of mentorsthat that you could say?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Were there any kind of mentors that you could say
yes.
So I have a very close andclosed circle of people that I
really call friends.
My brothers are just unreal.
They are always reminding me.
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You know of who I am Jason,steve, my brother David, you
know, they just they're really.
They're really impactfulbecause we could be playing golf
, me and Steven can be playinggolf, and he'll just say
something like hey, man, youknow, this is what you should be
doing, know these type ofthings?
Um, I have some ministrymentors that I can tell really
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laid a solid foundation drwalter scott thomas, who is a
retired pastor from new psalmistchurch in baltimore, maryland
okay membership of thousands ofpeople and I can call him and he
will just act like I just madehis day.
You know, Um, but he was reallyone of the ones that always kept
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me in a space of don't keepyourself in a box.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Right, you know, he kept saying Marcus.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Marcus, you are different.
He said you're different.
He said and don't be pressured.
There were moments where therewere churches that wanted me to
really come and serve as theirpastor and I would talk to him
and he just blatantly said no,that's not it.
He said don't get stuck.
He said that's not, that's notfor you.
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And so he was definitely one.
And then, when it comes tosocial media presence, I got to
give a shout out and I've neverhad a chance to talk to him.
I don't know if God will everordain for me to meet him, but
there's this guy named EricThomas.
He calls himself ET.
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The hip hop preacher is what hecalls himself man, the Kiana.
The first time I came acrossthat man's videos, he just he.
He broke the mold.
You know he wasn't the.
You know shout outs to tonyrobbins and les brown when they
get up with the suit song.
But et was one that I listenedto more every morning.
He he's very animated, but itjust kind of helped me.
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I kind of started studying hisbackground.
I started studying just hisapproach.
There's people like that,whether they have a personal
touch to me.
I would probably say if I hadto make that list.
It would probably be JasonSteve, dr Walter Thomas, eric
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Thomas, et.
And I got to give a shout outto my homeboy.
I do, I got to give a shout outto him.
He's a little unique way.
We have a local pastor here inmiddle Georgia, christopher
Cadmus.
That's my guy.
That's my guy, I tell people.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
You know Chris.
We've been knowing Chris foryears.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Right, because he played a drum for the Young
Corleas Local pastor here, who'sbeen through a lot, hasn't done
a lot, but he has his way.
You know he's unique.
Hey bro, hey bro, listen, Makesure that you don't be afraid to
step out.
Step out, bro, Step out.
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You know he's an actor too?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Let me think about this so, yeah, those would be
the people that I would trulysay that in the last few years
have really been a major piecefor me in stepping out and doing
this.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I love that because you know, like you say, it's
some people that we may notnever meet.
You know what I'm saying, thatwe can unite with and just say
you know what I unite with thisministry because it helped us,
it grows us right and the thingabout it, you know, for me, when
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I went through the pandemic andI started watching, you know we
had to watch it online and thathelped me to the point where it
was like, oh, it's more peopleout here in the world, more
people in the world, and youknow, and it drew me closer and
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instead of taking me further,and so that is one of the things
that I, when I understood whereGod was taking me Right, one of
the things that I, when Iunderstood where God was taking
me right.
So how, how did it look whenyou, um, when you got to that
point, how did you understandwhere God was like, oh, okay,
how did that understanding lookwhen you say you know what?
This is what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Scary.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Scary Um.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Scary.
I can imagine Scary.
Why is it scary for you?
You get up in front of all ofus and go hey.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Kiana, if this was a script, if this was a scripted
conversation, you said exactlywhat you would have said in the
script, because that's whateverybody says about Marcus.
You know they say oh, it's justso, it's so flawless for you,
like you could talk to.
You know thousands of peopleLike it's nothing.
But I think the part you know Iam big on and the reason I
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wanted to use that word was togive a sense of connectivity to
people, because I do stand onthe scripture that say God has
not given us a spirit of fear,okay, um, so, without being
preachy, the etymology of thatword in that statement was to be
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controlled by the enemy'spresence.
When it said he does not giveus that spirit of being
controlled by the enemy'spresence because God gives us
the emotion of fear and concern,that's an emotion he gave us.
So when I said scary, you knowthe super holy people like oh,
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oh, no, no, no, god is notgiving up the spirit of fear.
Okay, but if there's a gunbeing pointed at you, you're
going to feel that.
So the the anxiety of me walkingin my purpose with a genuine
desire to please God, it itfeels different than me saying,
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hey, I could take a text, set upmy introduction, relevant
question, three points at aclose, and tap into the
emotional status of people andmake them holler, preach, boy,
right.
But that's not what I know.
God has really gifted me andpurposed me to do so.
When I come into this,understanding that, okay, god,
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you have now placed me in thisspace to be a vessel and a voice
of hope for people from allgenres, from the church person
to the person in the club, tothe plant manager at the job, to
the CEO, to the board ofdirectors, you have given me a
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platform where I can speak lifeinto them, and it's something
that I want to do and I want tomake sure I please you.
Now I take my conversationsdifferent.
I approach my conversationsdifferent because I know I'm
really representing you now,because I'm in line vertically
and I could not be effectivehorizontally until I got in line
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vertically and it became a newthing to where I'm in my fifth
decade of living.
And now, oh, this is what youanointed me to do.
This feels different.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
And that's where now, when I start seeing how, in all
these years, I tried to makethings happen.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
But then when I get in line, things just start
happening.
And now there was a statementat the end of Job's life.
I think a lot of people skipover because we celebrate the
double for his trouble.
Right, but Job made a statementhe said all my life I had heard
of you Right, but now my eyeshave seen you for myself.
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Meaning Job had already gottenthe teachings about who God was,
but when he experienced God forhimself, oh, this is different.
This is different.
This is not just what hearsayis.
So all my life I've beenhearing oh God, I do this and
he'll open up the windows ofheaven.
Right, you know he be therebefore your child but then when
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I right exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So when I came into that space, where now I start
seeing him say Right, grab it.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Like you know what I'm saying, grab it Exactly,
exactly.
So when I came into that spacewhere now I start seeing him say
, yeah, now here you willexperience Mark, the I'll do
exceedingly and abundantly.
Before, above all, you couldever ask or even think, and
stuff just starts coming Right.
So now, when I say scary, it'slike scary in a way, like wow,
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this is it, like I'm here, okay,I got it now.
So let me make sure I handle itappropriately and handle it in
the way he ordained.
So, yeah, it.
When it did that, that was thefeeling, that was that, that was
that feeling like, ooh, okay,I'm here now, yeah, man, I don't
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think y'all heard this likelike dude.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I'm over here trying not to scream because because
that you know, literally I talkabout that, because it's
different when you get thattouch.
You know what I'm saying, likeit's just and the thing about it
.
You know, we've been in churchfor years and years and years,
and now to get to this point,and it's like, oh, it's real,
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you know what I'm saying.
And and, man, like I'm overhere trying not to run because
that's exactly how I feel.
It's like I want to be pleasingin this.
Yeah, I done went to church, Idone did this, but now it's
different, because I want tomake sure that I'm staying in
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alignment, like you said, withhim and not just saying okay,
you know what I'm doing, it I'mgiving, I'm doing what you said
to do.
God, you know what I'm saying,but it's different, whew.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like it was.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
It was.
He gave me a differentperspective on the scripture of
your gift.
Will make room for you.
He gave me a differentperspective on the scripture of
your gift.
Will make room for you.
He gave me a differentperspective.
And I'm careful when I saythose things because I don't
want to say it's a revelation,because normally we'll say God
gave me a revelation, whichsometimes gives the impression
that whatever was said beforewas wrong, and that's not the
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case.
He gave me a differentperspective.
But what he gave me was he saidwell, mark, what do you do with
gifts?
Because we made it seem likeokay, if I my gift, my ability
to sing, will put me in positionto go sing in different places
right, so your gift make roomfor you, you know.
but in essence what he said isso, with a gift, I give it out,
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I present it to someone, and hesaid the room that it's making
is because the gift is inside ofus and sometimes we'll try to
harness it.
I don't want to release this.
If I'm full, there's nothing tobe poured in because there's no
room.
But the more I release thisgift that's why I tell people
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all the time you can't just sitback and be like I don't know
what I want to do with this, I'mjust going to stay here Then
there's no room for God to pour,there's no room for God to
replenish.
So now my ability, just tonight, in this setting, I'm making
room because God has given methe opportunity to release some
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stuff.
So now, when I get ready to laydown, he can bring his angel
and say, okay, pour some more.
Which is why I wake up tomorrowand certain things are now
available to me that would nothave been available if I was
full.
I would not have been availableif I was full, I would not have
been able to take advantage ofthem, because I decided I'd
rather stay full to keep this tomyself.
Gifts are meant to be given out.
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And that's what really puts mein this space of appreciation is
you're really allowing me tojust keep pouring out so you can
pour in, just keep pouring outso you can pour in.
Right, and I'm experiencingthat now.
I'm experiencing, oh, I wouldhave never made that phone call
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that's because he was walkingaround heavy and full.
You, you wouldn't be able tohave the presence of mind to
even make that contact becauseyou're heavy and full.
That's why when you before youget up for work and go home and
go to sleep because you're full,but when you before you get up
for work and go home and go tosleep because you're full, but
when you start pouring out, youget off of work and you got
energy.
I'm gonna stop by this placebecause god ordained this ram to
come up the other side of themountain for you to meet and
make that connection.
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So I just love it.
I love when he communicateswith us in that, in that way,
and opens up our perspective onthings.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Right, look, let the church say Well, it's time to
pass the collection plate.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Well, the preachers say everybody's standing over
the building, everybody'sstanding across the building,
right, I'm sorry, is standingover the building.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Everybody's standing across the building, right, I
understand.
You know we got nobody, I'msorry.
No, but that was so good.
You know, because you know alot of people, like you said,
when they see that scripture orhear that scripture, you know
your gift will make room for youthey thinking that it's going
to take them in different places, like you know, know how you
(37:03):
did it is, of course it'sdifferent perspective perception
.
I mean perception of that um youknow, and and in different
types of settings, of course,but, at the same token, the way
you put it and broke it down, oh, I never heard it broken down
like that.
You, you know what I'm saying,and so we have to make sure that
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we, you know the gift that Godhas given us, we are giving it
back to his people so he cancontinue to pour into us, right,
and that is that is just, youknow, incredible how you, how
you put that, because a lot ofpeople don't understand that,
and you know, and I know, thatwe have to continue to keep that
(37:50):
, because, on that other side,that's where that excitement
comes from when you want to workand you want to do everything
that God has called you to do,regardless of how you keep your
excitement when you see thestorm coming right.
Because?
So how do you keep thatexcitement when now you're
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stepping into that, calling umto say you know what, here I am
yeah, my, why my?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
why my?
Why um?
So I think you probably see it,um, as my name.
My birth name is marcus um.
My mother always called me markwhen she talked to me.
Hey, mark, mark, can you comeum?
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If she introduced me or wastalking about me, she she would
say well, that's my son, marcus,but she's my wife.
The middle name, my middle name, is actually just the letter J
without a period.
It's Marcus J Little.
And when I was a kid, I waslike I want a middle name and I
used to tell her make up middlename.
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My middle name is Jareel andshe's like I'm on a middle name.
I used to tell makeup middlenames.
My middle name is Jarell.
She's like I just made a uniquebaby.
I just did.
I spell it now J-A-I.
There's two connections to that.
In 2019 was the year that I wassupposed to literally commit the
suicide that I kept planning.
In 2019, god took my mother inJanuary.
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He took my uncle in March.
He took my godmother in June.
He took my grandmother, whichwas my mom and my uncle's mom,
in September and he took whowould have been my first
grandbaby in November.
Wow, all of that in 2019, mygrandbaby's middle name was
going to be J, but she was goingto spell my daughter was going
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to spell it J, a, I, hence thetwo names put together, which I
go by Mark J and and the why isbecause my mother, I went
through a phase where I was likeGod, why didn't you allow her
to see this, marcus Right, whydidn't you allow her to see the
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fulfillment of what she spoke?
And he calmly said oh, she did.
I showed her all of it.
She saw all this, which is whyshe said this on that date,
which is why she said this onthat date.
And so my why, right now?
And then, when it comes to mygranddaughter, who would have
been my first granddaughter, godspoke to me and said I'm
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creating a healthy legacy foryou.
Wow, because, keona, I haveevery reason, you know, to say
this is why I can't do it.
Every reason from being aconvicted felon in 1998, you
know to being, you know, in andout of jail, to going down the
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road 12 years later for aprobation violation and spend
two years in prison.
You know, and I would.
I could easily say well, thisis why I can't do it Right, but
in essence, I switched that andsaid this is why I must do it
Right, because there are men andwomen out there who have had an
ugly past.
Right, you know.
And one thing about the churchand I love the church to life.
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However, one thing about thechurch they'll be quick to say,
well, god will forgive you.
We just don't feel like he canuse you because of what you did.
Right, we celebrate David as amurderer, we celebrate Noah as a
drunk, we celebrate all thesedysfunctional people.
Oh, but yeah, but God used himin the end.
Yeah, but you got this guy overhere that you're not letting be
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used because he had attained itpast or she had attained it
past.
So my why?
Is because of the legacy that'sover me and the legacy that
pushes me.
So when I don't feel like doingit, I have an event coming up
Saturday and the whole tone ofit is get up.
That's the first thing we'vegot to do.
We've got to get up.
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When we don't feel like it,we've got to get up when we feel
like this.
You know, and's a why am Igetting up?
Why do I get up?
When I get up in the morning togo to work, the biggest hurdle
is getting my feet on the ground.
That's my biggest hurdle,because once I do that, I'm off
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and running the biggest hurdleis coming from this horizontal
position and holding up, gettingin my 90 degree position.
And getting up, getting in my 90degree position and get these
feet on the ground.
You know, um, but that's my why, my level, my excitement is my
why.
That's what, that's what pushesme and I encourage everybody
that, if you have not taken timeto be able to identify your why
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, it's going to be difficult togo through those storms.
Right, because we, we, we dowhat we do.
When we're driving through astorm, we pull over right and we
wait for it to pass.
And in the natural, because ofthe way the earth works, storms
pass.
That's why the song came outthe storm is passing over right.
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In the spirit realm, stormsdon't move.
They're set.
It's our job to move throughthem.
So we can't pull over in thespirit realm, we can't sit still
and be like let me just waittill this get over.
I'll do this and I'll push thisconference back because now I
got to deal with this.
No, god's like.
No, marcus, I got you equippedto move through this.
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So that's what my excitement is, my why.
Every time I don't feel like it, I'm like, nope, legacy, nope,
I got to push.
I got to push Because there'sgoing to be my
great-great-grandchildren thatmay never meet me because God
may take me home, but they'llhear the story like yeah, you
know your great-pa-pa, mark.
Yeah, that's him.
That's his picture right there.
Yeah, that Mark.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
I love that.
Literally one thing that yousaid is you wish that your mom
would see this.
I often think about that.
We're living our parents, ourgrandparents and parents um
prayers right now yes, you knowwhat I'm saying.
(44:09):
Yes, um and like, and one thingthat used that stuck out to me.
And you say that god said shesaw this.
Yeah, she saw this.
That's why she was praying forit right but now we're stepping
into those prayers, the amen.
Those prayers answered that ourgrandmother and our grandfather
and you know, and even my dadprayed for us and to say you
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know what, now we're able tostep into those that call it,
and I love how you, you know youput that.
And even when I was thinkingabout, when you're talking about
the storm, we cannot stop whenthe storm comes Right.
And even though sometimes thestorm, like you know, and I'm
going to say I went through ahailstorm Right and I and I
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pulled to the side and I say youknow what, god, I'm going to
make it through here but andkept going slow and sometimes
you have to go slow?
Yes, absolutely.
It doesn't matter.
And sometimes you have to payattention to when God tells you
to stop, because sometimes thereis a time where you need to
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stop and reflect and refocus andstuff like that.
But you have to keep going,regardless of what the storm is,
regardless of what thesituation is, regardless of how
it looks.
And you know, like even yousaid in 2019, where you know you
had multiple of death, you hadreasons why you could stop.
(45:41):
You know it's always a reason.
You know what I'm saying yes,but it's not an excuse.
You know what I'm saying, butit's not like you say right,
right, I love that.
You know how you, um, and youeven kind of show your
determination in that, um, youknow going forward, but going
forward now, even, how more,much more are you determined to
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get to that legacy or get tothat goal which you're trying to
get to?
Speaker 3 (46:07):
No excuses.
No excuses, you mean to tell me, god, you kept me alive through
all of this?
Right Determination man, that'sit.
I'll use Kobe Bryant's phrasewhen a young athlete, kyrie
(46:29):
Irving was real young, he's likeman when I put $10,000 in, I
can beat you one-on-one.
And Kobe's response was easymoney.
Just easy money.
Determination is easy for menow.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
It's easy for me now and because I've seen too much,
I've seen God bring me throughtoo much, mm, hmm, and that's
the piece that I think the otherD in my alliteration is I
couldn't get to get intodetermination if I didn't have
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discipline, determination if Ididn't have discipline.
I think that's what a lot of usmiss.
We want to be determined, butwe don't want to be disciplined.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
It sounds good that I'm going to get up at 3 o'clock
every morning and go to the gym, or 4 o'clock in the morning
and go to the gym before I go towork.
When the long clock goes off, Ihave every reason.
I didn't get enough sleep, soI'm going to eat this food.
But when I got to get up and go, get showered and go to work,
I'm going to go to the gym afterwork.
But now I got the agenda afterwork so I miss the whole day.
And it's the only thing aboutthis Monday thing, like I'm
(47:37):
going to start on Monday.
What Monday?
Monday never comes, mondaynever comes.
I'd have had so many Mondays,oh my goodness.
And so the determination.
For me it's a no brainer right.
(47:59):
I'm all in.
I have literally jumped off theboat with no life jacket, Mark,
you got to swim.
You have literally jumped offthe boat with no life jacket,
Mark, you got to swim.
Right, you chose to jump offthis boat.
No, I don't need a life jacket,I'm going to swim.
And so that's what drives me towhere God.
You kept me through all of this2019.
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You kept me through COVID andhospitalized and wishing for
death.
Wow, because I hit COVID inJanuary, so my granddaughter
dies in November.
I catch COVID.
I'm laying up in the hospitaland I'm mad when I wake up.
Why do you keep waking me up?
And I'm literally saying thisdoctors, I really don't want.
Is there anything?
(48:41):
Y'all?
I know it's unethical, but quitgiving me well, just send me
home.
I really I wanted to call mybrothers and say hey y'all.
Jason, you know you're mybeneficiary.
You know you got it.
I'm done.
I just can't do this, no more.
But God kept waking me up everyday and people ask how did you
get through that?
I don't know.
I just woke up every day.
But now I realize destiny wasattached to me.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Right.
So in order to get to that, mydiscipline had to be in place,
determination had to exist sothat destiny can occur.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Right.
And so determination right now.
If for those of you guyswatching I sound like I'm
tele-imagining, but for thosethat are watching, the
determination doesn't getbirthed until discipline is
conceived.
You've got to put that in placeand start.
Start, that's it.
(49:38):
Start One minute.
Do one thing better today thanyou did yesterday.
Don't try to paint the wholepainting.
Don't try to put the wholepuzzle together.
Find the edges.
That's how we used to putpuzzles together when I was a
kid.
Find the edges.
Quit trying to bring off.
If you put any two piecestogether, you will drive
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yourself crazy.
Where's the piece that fits?
Find the edges, get them alltogether.
That's the first step.
We get them all together.
That's date.
That's the first step.
We put them all together andthen we go from there.
So that's the thing that I wantto encourage people to take
that first step, one step.
Do one thing better today.
Get one percent better than youwere yesterday, whatever it is.
Write five sentences in yourbook, put it together, have a
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sense of accomplishment so youcan see yourself moving forward.
That's the determination.
So that discipline has to exist, it has to be conceived before
you give birth to determination.
My discipline took years ofconsistency before I get to this
point of determination.
So that's where I am mentallywhen it comes to that.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Right, that's, I love that and I need, I need my
notebook, I should, I shouldwrite my notebook.
I need some notes.
You know what I'm saying.
You know.
I think that that is.
That is that you know, like yousay about about discipline.
You need discipline because inorder for you to be able to do
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or stay consistent in anything,you got to be disciplined.
I don't care what nobody say.
You know people, I get up hereon the podcast and I'd be.
It'd be days where I'd be like,oh, I don't feel like doing that
Right right, especially, youknow, even now, you know, being
that I do this and get on socialmedia, I'd be so sad, I'd be
(51:30):
like Lord, I don't feel like,but that is how I'm reaching
people, right, Right right.
I have to continue to do thatbefore you know and stay
consistent at doing it.
You know what I'm saying, so Ican be you know, get to that
determination or get to thatdestiny that God is calling me
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because in order for me to getthere and like I often say,
destiny is not a place, it's ajourney, because you're going-
to keep moving towards somethingyou ain't going to never get
there, I'm telling you You'rejust going to get to a certain
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level and then you start over atthe next level and keep moving.
That's one thing that I like tosay to people.
I just want to ask you one morequestion.
If you had to leave your18-year-old self something, what
advice would you give your18-year-old self?
Speaker 3 (52:40):
Believe who God says you are.
Believe, believe.
My 18-year-old self was Believewho God says you are.
Yeah, believe, believe.
My 18-year-old self was giftedbeyond measure Right Basketball
star.
You know, I was that guy.
But when I got to that nextplace, my belief system was
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contaminated.
And I say this in church a lotthe enemy doesn't care anything
about you coming to worship.
He don't care about you singing.
He don't care about youshouting, running, sweating,
falling out.
He cares nothing about.
He'll stand right next to youand be like there.
You go, shout, holler, yeah dothat.
The one thing he does not wantyou to do is wake up one morning
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and believe, once you believeyou're who God says you are.
He has been disarmed.
He has been disarmed, andthat's his daily arsenal is to
keep you in doubt, to keep yousecond guessing, to keep you
giving excuses, to keep youblaming.
(53:42):
And so that would be what Iwould say Is believe you are who
God says you are.
Believe what you heard, becausethey were telling you since you
were six You're different,you're special.
You just don't believe it yet,and if you get to this point
where you can start believing,things will really, really be
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different for you.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
But the last thing I would tell him, though, is but
don't change it, because I likethe 53-year-old.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
You're going to catch hell.
You're going to catch hell, butI like where the 53-year-old
ended up.
I love that he's that guy, he'slove that he's that guy, he's
that guy.
He's that guy.
Okay, people tell me they sayat work they be like ooh, when I
grow up I'm going to be justlike you.
Back in the day he's like ooh.
No, don't say that.
You know what I say to him now.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
I'm a hell.
I'm him.
Oh, my goodness, that is just.
You know what you were talkingdirectly to me.
You know about belief.
You know we have to knowbecause a lot of people have
imposter syndrome, right.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
They are doing something and they don't feel
like they are supposed to bedoing it, but God has brought
you there for a reason.
So don't, don't, don't worry,don't care about the imposter
syndrome.
Believe in who God has createdyou to be.
Believe where God has put youand in rooms that God has put
you in and in places that Godhas put you before, has put you
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in and in places where God hasput you before.
So I'm so excited that you havebeen here.
Like you have really, reallyblessed my soul, like I
literally have learned moreabout Marcus than I've learned.
Yeah, and I'm so excited thatyou've been here.
Just let everybody know wherethey can reach you at.
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If you have anything else leftto say, do that and then you can
pray.
Go ahead on prayers and thenI'll end us out.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Okay, you can reach me on.
I am Mark J.
I've just got into theInstagram, so, yeah, that part.
But I do have an event comingup in November.
You can go to my website I'vejust created as a landing page
right now, exclusively for theNovember event, but it's
(56:14):
IamMartJorg.
We have a no More Excusesexperience November 15th here in
Warner Robins, bringing a bunchof motivational speakers
together to speak life intopeople from different genres as
well as preach.
You know speakers and pastors,but it's going to be a day of
just celebrating, you know,celebrating who we are.
(56:35):
But, yeah, you can reach me onI am Mark J, across all
platforms.
And yeah, and I would just wantto encourage you guys, get up.
Get up, no more excuses.
Get up, take that one minuteand change.
Do something better.
Do something better Tonight,you still got time.
If you're watching this live,you still got time.
Do something better today thanyou did on yesterday and keep
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progressing.
God got you.
God got you.
We'll pray, father.
God, we thank you so much forthis amazing day that you have
blessed us to see.
You have given us life andyou've given us life more
abundantly, regardless of whatthe enemy tries to portray as
not where we want to be.
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We are definitely right wherewe were ordained to be.
You knew this day would come.
You knew we would be right herebefore you even said let there
be light.
So, god, because of that,because you're sovereign,
because you know all things, wetrust and we thank you for where
you have us.
God, I thank you for Kiana.
I thank you for this gift thatyou have deposited into this
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space for this season.
God.
I thank you for what she isdoing.
God, I thank you for this giftthat you have deposited into
this space for this season.
God, I thank you for what sheis doing.
God, I thank you for everythingthat you have in store for her.
Lord, I thank you for blowingher mind.
I thank you for releasing intoher life those things that she
could not even imagine, shedidn't even put on her vision
board.
She didn't even put into hervision board that she didn't
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even put into her plans.
Thank you for releasing that andfor everyone that has the
opportunity to hear this prayer,whether now or recorded, god, I
thank you now, lord, for givingthem that place of peace and
comfort and confidence inknowing that you got them, that
they are in your hands, god.
Lord, I speak into thosevisionaries to give them the
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desire to take that first step,to get up.
To get up.
Let the alarm clock in theirminds go off and do not let the
enemy convince them to hit thesnooze button, but to put their
feet on the ground, get up andwalk in their purpose.
God, we love you, we praise youand we thank you in Jesus name.
Amen, amen.
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Amen.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Oh, you're about to have me tearing up over here.
I don't want to be crying.
So I'm so excited, lord.
I tell you I'm so full rightnow.
Tell you I'm so full right now.
I thank you so much thank you, Ienjoyed it anytime we get
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together, I do enjoy it because,I tell you, god has really,
really, like you said, heplanned this time years ago and
so, anyways, I thank you all fortuning in.
Like I often say, if you wantto give your life to Christ, you
can ask, you can acknowledgethat you are a sinner, you can
confess with your mouth andbelieve in your heart that Jesus
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Christ died on the cross, youcan turn from your ways, and
then you can seek after aBible-based church, a church
that is teaching the word andnot changing the word.
Ok, so, anyways, I thank youagain.
Thank you again.
You can always, if you want tobe a blessing in this ministry,
you can always scan the barcode,go to buy, buy me a coffee and
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and go, and you know, buy me asmany coffees as you want.
You know, and don't forgetabout the book.
You can always scan the barcode, go and get the book.
Why Not Me?
It's a blueprint frombrokenness to breakthrough.
I guarantee you it is going totransform your life.
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So, anyways, I thank you again,mark, for being on here.
I'm so excited and please,please, please, just thank you
for Christ.
All right, bye, y'all.
Thank you.
I just thank God, lest, as Ican be, therefore, I'm gonna
lift your name high.
We just kicking it and havinghappy conversation.
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Cute for Christ.
I'm so very grateful for thejourney.
Brought me a mighty long way asI praise and I pray, give
thanks for your grace and yourmercy.
See, I'm a living testimony.
Went from living vagrant phonyFull of acrimony.
Dang had to get right whenChrist God came.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
We'll see you next time, thank you hey, hey, hey
everyone, this is Kiana, yourcreator and the host of Q for
Christ, and I want to get onhere first.
I want to say thank you toeveryone that has liked, you
shared, you commented, whateveryou done.
I'm so excited and I'm so happy, and I tell you I do not take
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this for granted, because thisis something that I take very
serious, right, and it's not apunishment.
Being a vessel for Christ, it'sa privilege, and so one thing I
try to tell people is that makesure that whenever God calls
you, you do it to the best ofyour ability, right?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So, anyways, I don't know who that's for, but anyways
, I'm so excited tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Make sure you go ahead on and share you like this
.
Share this with someone thatmay need this.
We are queued for Christtonight and this is another
success on purpose and I'm superexcited to be here.
Make sure you are going to thewebsite at wwwqforchristcom.
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Okay, you know I got somethingbig coming up so you do not want
to miss it.
All right, and I promise youyou're going to be blessed, all
right.
So, anyways, I'm super excitedabout tonight.
Like I said, we are back, right.
I'm telling you when I sayseason four of Q for Christ,
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that is consistency in you know,at his best right.
When I tell you that the enemywants to come and he wants to
come steal and kill.
But I have prevailed and keptgoing.
And so we are back with seasonfour of the Success on Purpose
and the Cube for Christ show andI'm so excited.
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And tonight I have such anincredible person that I'm
telling you you don't want tomiss this, okay.
So, anyways, anyways, I'm goingto go ahead on and bring him in
Tonight.
I have the special honor andprivilege to have Marcus J
Little on here.
How are you, Marcus?
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I?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
am amazing, Kiana.
How are you this evening?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You know what, like I said a few minutes ago, I can't
complain, you know.
I can but it ain't going tochange a thing, absolutely.
It's still going to be hotoutside.
It's still.
I can complain about the heat.
It's still going to be hot, Ican complain about it?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's definitely going to be hot.
You know that Georgia heat isdifferent.
It's different.
Georgia heat is different.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Look, if you ain't been to Georgia, child, I'm
telling you, the weather isdefinitely definitely different.
We could have well, not lately,but usually it'd be winter in
the morning and spring in theevening, and there's something
like it just goes.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Right, right, exactly .
And then it's been there's rain.
Lately it's trying to seem likeit wants to rain every day now
at least for 10 minutes, rightyeah.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Like you know, that's that Florida weather, though
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Like Florida, would rain at any given moment.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
At any given moment.
It was like that when I livedin Jacksonville they said
anytime between 4 and 6, justknow it's going to rain, so plan
accordingly, right.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Right, so that's what I'm saying.
So, anyway, as I said, all thatto say that I'm doing okay.
So I'm super excited to haveyou on here.
I can tell y'all a little bitabout how we met.
We've been knowing each otherfor years and years and years
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and years.
I'm telling you we both sung inthis choir called Young
Choraleers.
And you know about the YoungCorleas, right, especially if
you're around our age, like inthe 40s.
You know who the young Corleasare and I'm telling you, you
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know, matter of fact, the youngCorleas have birthed some very,
very incredible people out of it.
You know, and anyways, we'vebeen knowing each other since
I'm like teenage, like I was ateenager.
I'm super excited to have youon here and to be able to catch
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up with you, and so why don'tyou just kind of let everybody
know who Marcus is?
Because I can tell you a littlebit about him, but I know he
can do it better for himself.
So if you just let everybodyknow who you are, Well yeah,
marcus Little, actually born inSeattle, washington.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I tell people that, even though I came back, I came
to make when I was a kid, so itdoesn't really count.
I said that one time tosomebody and they was like, oh
well, I got some family.
I'm like, no, don't ask meanything about Seattle.
I was just born out there,right, but grew up in Macon,
georgia, pk to the core.
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Both parents and preachersGraduated from the amazing
Central High School, the onlyhigh school in Macon that
matters.
Hold up, hold up.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You're not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Oh yeah, I just thought I'd put you up my school
is not here anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We're not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh, never mind.
Yes, you went to that school, Igot you, but from a family of
six, five boys, one girl.
Pretty much all of the childrenare, you know, church raised.
So but just came, came out of achurch family, been in church
pretty much all my life.
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Literally went off to school,played basketball at Alabama
State One of the pivotal partsof my life.
Just really enjoyed being asports fanatic and now currently
have stepped out into that gift.
That's always been there and soI'm currently still here in
Warner Robins in middle Georgia.
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Lived in Jacksonville for awhile while lived in Charlotte
for a while.
Shout out to Mecklenburg County.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I lived in Charlotte too, for about three, three and
a half four years.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Love me some Charlotte, love me some
Charlotte.
And so here back in middleGeorgia, you know, for the time
being, just see what God sayswith that and just enjoy life.
I am at a point now just had abirthday in June, so turned 53.
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Feel real good about that.
You know, 25 years ago I felt,you know, by the time you're 53,
you'd be rode in a wheelchairlooking crazy.
But thank God that it was notmy lot in life.
So, yeah, just enjoying lifeand, oh man, just I enjoy every
minute at this point.
So I'm in a great space rightnow.
So, and I thank you so much forallowing me to be a part of q
to christ, I just love whatyou're doing.
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So, yeah, that's, that's me ina nutshell well, you are welcome
.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You know, after you said 53, I was like wait a
minute, Hold on.
I don't look 53 at all, but no,I'm excited to have you on here
because being able to displaythe people that have been around
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me, I'm excited about it, likeliterally.
So, anyways, anyways, we arenot going to hold you all alone.
I'm going to say a quick prayerbefore we go further, because
you know I like to always usherin the Holy spirit.
And and then, once we go anyfurther, before we go any
further, and then then we'll godive into the interview and see
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how Marcus have been cued forChrist, how he's been cued to be
able to do what he has beencalled to do.
So, anyways, I'm going to say aquick prayer.
All right, dear Heavenly Father.
God, I say thank you for thistime that you have carved out.
God, I say thank you forallowing us to be able to just
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have the beings of our life, god, to be able to move and be able
to just say thank you foreverything that you're doing,
god, we know that it's all you.
God, we thank you now forallowing us to be here.
We thank you now for evenallowing Marcus to be able to
sit with us, god, and we ask youto touch him, god, anything
that he is doing, god, we askyou to turn it into gold.
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God, god, we know that you areleading and guiding him, and so
we thank you for what you aredoing in his life and even the
people that are surrounding him.
God, we ask you to just go withhis family, his children, god,
and so we just thank you foreverything that you're doing,
god.
We ask you for the ones thatare here, god, that are watching
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God, to touch them in a mightyspecial way.
God, we know that you know theneeds, god, that your people
need, and we ask you now to beable to say something that will
allow them to ask what they mustdo to be saved.
So we thank you for everythingthat you're doing.
We thank you for all the lovethat you have given us, god, and
shown us, god, because it couldbe different, but we are here,
and so we thank you for justbeing in our lives and in our
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presence, and so we just loveyou.
We honor you, god, for the restof this evening, and we are
going to give your name topraise.
It's in Jesus' name that I pray, amen.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Amen Amen.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Amen.
Look, I'm a prayer warrior.
Look, I love you.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I love you.
That's one of my things I'mtelling you I'm about to say
we're about to have a moment ofintercession, let's go then.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
We're going to walk there.
If we have, to Come on nowlet's go, then we're gonna walk
there.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
If we have to come on now you don't you know?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
yes, absolutely no.
So, anyways, I'm super excitedto um to have you on here.
I just want you um to just kindof tell everybody um about you
know, when you um decided, howdid you get to this point where
you were like you know what, I'mready to step into my calling.
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What cued you to say let me,let me get up and do this?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
yeah, um, I, I was one of those where there was
this expectation with me all mylife, from being a kid coming up
.
You know, I was that kid.
You know where, if there was 20children that got in trouble,
they'll fuss at all the children.
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Then they'll get to me and saywell, you, you of all people,
you should know better.
You know, and that wasirritating because I'm like I
want to be bad just like theother kids.
I got to be different, you know.
And so, growing up in, growingup in church, you know, my
father had a very impactfulministry, so there was always
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that spotlight and so I was that, that child that was like, yeah
, no, I don't want to do thatand I'm gonna try to rebel on
purpose, um, you know, and so itbecame.
It became a piece for a while,um, and then got into ministry,
um, and I knew it was a part ofme, because my approach to
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ministry initially had illintent.
I initially got involved inchurch because I wanted the
notoriety, I wanted to be alocal celebrity and I embraced
my ministry, calling inJacksonville back in 1996.
God, that's so long ago, jesusChrist.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I was 19.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
As soon as it came out, I was like wait a minute.
But yeah, and it was reallybecause I was just fascinated.
You know, at the church I wasat, I was just fascinated by
everything that went along withit.
So initially it wasn't genuine,and I tell people that, you
know, sometimes people don'tlike to hear that.
I was just fascinated byeverything that went along with
it.
So initially it wasn't genuine,and I tell people that, you
know, sometimes people don'tlike to hear that.
But yeah, it wasn't.
I'm like no, I just I justwanted to be popular and as time
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progressed, you know, I wentthrough a lot of things in
reference to just God kind oftugging on me, and so it got to
the point where, just in thelast couple of years, you know,
being a part of church, being apart of ministry whether it's
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musician, whether it's preaching, whether it's teaching, whether
it's administration I alwayshad this heartbeat of providing
hope for people.
And so, you know, but it waskind of a but I don't know if I
want to be a pastor.
You know, I'm like God, I knowthat you called me to pour into
people and sometimes I feel likepeople rush into what they
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consider that box.
And so you know, like, well, Igot to get behind a podium and
let me go get this building here, and you know, get me, you know
, some signs and some flyers,and I'm going to be a pastor,
you know.
So, in that, in the midst ofministry, I began seeing that
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there were people that wouldnever, ever come to the located
building of our church.
Wow, but there was still acalling on my life to be an
encouragement to them.
Right, and you know, and therewere people who would probably
immediately turn off theirreceptor as soon as you say
anything.
You know what they considerreligious, consider religious.
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And so God just kind ofpositioned me in different
spaces to where I would be anencouragement to people in all
aspects.
And so I'll never forget walkinga friend of mine.
Her and her companion, herboyfriend, came by the house and
they wanted to go swimming,that was the thing, and he came
to the house to get the food,and so, as they were leaving, I
was just walking them to the carand he was a young man that was
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, you know, you could tell he'sfrom the hood.
So we was just having smalltalk and this was about three,
four years ago and I'll neverforget him looking at me and
saying man, mr Marcus, I'm goingto tell you, bro, man, I could
sit and listen to you talk allday.
I said, okay, I'm just saying,you're just so encouraging man.
He made a statement.
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Then he was like man, youshould be a motivational speaker
.
I kind of laughed it off.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Right.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Over time, I started recognizing that God started
putting me in position to speakto people who were probably
never done the church doors, youknow, but yet he gives me that
ability to give them hope.
And so lately I've beenhashtagging all of my posts with
this phrase no more excuses.
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Because that's kind of what Inoticed I was doing and it just
came.
That's kind of what I noticed Iwas doing.
And um, and it just came.
And then, being at work, youknow, we do what we call a
beginning of the shift huddle,and um, it got to the point
where other team members fromother departments would come and
be a part of our huddle.
And God brought the exact samephrase back to me when another
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young man who works out therewalked up to me and he was like
hey, bro, I ain't gonna lie, man, I had to ask my supervisor,
can I be a couple minutes late?
Because, man, here you talk,man, and how you talk to your
team bro, hey bro, for real, man, bro, you got it, man.
You know, I was just like, okay,god, I said you just, you just
brought this full circle, and soit just encouraged me to just
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say, okay, it's no longer aboutthe notoriety.
It's no longer about trying tobe a local celebrity.
It's about being able toprovide hope for people and
being in tune with what Godwants me to say, because I don't
want them to feel like they'recoming to a church service, but
they're going to always hear you.
They're going to hear who Godis through me, because that's
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the essence of who I am.
So it just became, it became athing that was birthed out of
that young man's statement rightwhen he walked, when I walked
him and his girlfriend to thecar, um, to this point now,
where this is, and it is, youknow when I say a passion and a
heartbeat for me.
I love it, I absolutely love it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I, you know, I love that.
You know because, um, one thingthat you said is that a lot of
people are some people may noteven step foot in a church you
know what I'm saying and somepeople, um, you can be that
people will only see, you knowwhat I'm saying, you know?
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and so sometimes we have torealize that our calling is not
just behind a pulpit.
And that was one of the thingsthat I had to realize is that,
oh, I do have a calling, butit's uncommon, as, as my pastor
would call it uncommon, becauseit's not behind the pulpit.
Everybody don't have to bebehind the pulpit Now.
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Granted, you know, we might endup there every now and then.
But that is not our calling.
Our calling is to be out in themarketplace or out telling
people about how you couldchange your life.
Right, because that is the mainthing.
We don't want to, you know,just hit them upside the head
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with the Bible, but we want themto be able to know that it's
there, right?
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
And I love that.
I love that what you said,because a lot of people don't
realize that.
And when you said that, thatwas so transparent about you
saying that you wanted to bejust the local celebrity.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Because there's a lot of people that are in ministry
for the wrong reason.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yes, absolutely, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
They done got that they done, got that that 501c3
and they just like yeah, yeah,you know.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I said sometimes it's unfortunate.
I came across so many peoplethat and I remember the first
time I said it it really hithome for me.
I said sometimes you'll havepeople that will start a church
only because they have no levelof authority in any other aspect
of their life.
Wow, and now they want to bethat person.
You know I have four membersand three of my members are
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armor bearers.
Right, you know.
I mean you know, because I wantto be that person, I want to be
acknowledged as that guy.
You know and we know,especially the African-American
church.
That's one of those pieces whereyou know, because when I grew
up you were supposed to, man,don't do that.
That's the pastor you know andthat's I mean that.
You know meeting people.
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Yeah, you know, like I havepeople.
I have people sometimes try tocorrect me because I would
introduce myself as, hey, I'mMarcus Little.
Oh, you should tell him you'reReverend.
My mom called me Marcus andwhen God talks to me he don't
come and be like Pastor Little.
Oh, he says Marcus.
That's what I hear in my spirit.
But, yeah, it's one of thosepieces where I was guilty of
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that.
I was, I was guilty of that.
So I'm thankful God allowed meto live long enough to be pulled
out of that stigma and thatmindset.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Man, that is so good, like literally, you know,
because, like I said, it's a lotof people that won't even
acknowledge the fact why theystarted ministry you know what
I'm saying, right, you know it'sbecause people, you know,
anyways, it's just, it's peopleout there that is just really
really leading people the wrongdirection and you're not doing
they doing a whole bunch of lipservice.
So, anyway, were there anybodythat I mean besides that young
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man, because I know that beingable to get in, in in your
calling and being able to dowhat God has called you to do
Sometimes you have to be aroundsomeone Were there any kind of
mentors that say you know what,let me, you know, you were like,
this is what you know I want tobe like, or or whatnot?
Were there any kind of mentorsthat that you could say?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Were there any kind of mentors that you could say
yes.
So I have a very close andclosed circle of people that I
really call friends.
My brothers are just unreal.
They are always reminding me.
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You know of who I am Jason,steve, my brother David, you
know, they just they're really.
They're really impactfulbecause we could be playing golf
, me and Steven can be playinggolf, and he'll just say
something like hey, man, youknow, this is what you should be
doing, know these type ofthings?
Um, I have some ministrymentors that I can tell really
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laid a solid foundation drwalter scott thomas, who is a
retired pastor from new psalmistchurch in baltimore, maryland
okay membership of thousands ofpeople and I can call him and he
will just act like I just madehis day.
You know, Um, but he was reallyone of the ones that always kept
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me in a space of don't keepyourself in a box.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Right, you know, he kept saying Marcus.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Marcus, you are different.
He said you're different.
He said and don't be pressured.
There were moments where therewere churches that wanted me to
really come and serve as theirpastor and I would talk to him
and he just blatantly said no,that's not it.
He said don't get stuck.
He said that's not, that's notfor you.
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And so he was definitely one.
And then, when it comes tosocial media presence, I got to
give a shout out and I've neverhad a chance to talk to him.
I don't know if God will everordain for me to meet him, but
there's this guy named EricThomas.
He calls himself ET.
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The hip hop preacher is what hecalls himself man, the Kiana.
The first time I came acrossthat man's videos, he just he.
He broke the mold.
You know he wasn't the.
You know shout outs to tonyrobbins and les brown when they
get up with the suit song.
But et was one that I listenedto more every morning.
He he's very animated, but itjust kind of helped me.
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I kind of started studying hisbackground.
I started studying just hisapproach.
There's people like that,whether they have a personal
touch to me.
I would probably say if I hadto make that list.
It would probably be JasonSteve, dr Walter Thomas, eric
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Thomas, et.
And I got to give a shout outto my homeboy.
I do, I got to give a shout outto him.
He's a little unique way.
We have a local pastor here inmiddle Georgia, christopher
Cadmus.
That's my guy.
That's my guy, I tell people.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
You know Chris.
We've been knowing Chris foryears.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Right, because he played a drum for the Young
Corleas Local pastor here, who'sbeen through a lot, hasn't done
a lot, but he has his way.
You know he's unique.
Hey bro, hey bro, listen, Makesure that you don't be afraid to
step out.
Step out, bro, Step out.
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You know he's an actor too?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Let me think about this so, yeah, those would be
the people that I would trulysay that in the last few years
have really been a major piecefor me in stepping out and doing
this.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I love that because you know, like you say, it's
some people that we may notnever meet.
You know what I'm saying, thatwe can unite with and just say
you know what I unite with thisministry because it helped us,
it grows us right and the thingabout it, you know, for me, when
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I went through the pandemic andI started watching, you know we
had to watch it online and thathelped me to the point where it
was like, oh, it's more peopleout here in the world, more
people in the world, and youknow, and it drew me closer and
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instead of taking me further,and so that is one of the things
that I, when I understood whereGod was taking me Right, one of
the things that I, when Iunderstood where God was taking
me right.
So how, how did it look whenyou, um, when you got to that
point, how did you understandwhere God was like, oh, okay,
how did that understanding lookwhen you say you know what?
This is what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Scary.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Scary Um.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Scary.
I can imagine Scary.
Why is it scary for you?
You get up in front of all ofus and go hey.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Kiana, if this was a script, if this was a scripted
conversation, you said exactlywhat you would have said in the
script, because that's whateverybody says about Marcus.
You know they say oh, it's justso, it's so flawless for you,
like you could talk to.
You know thousands of peopleLike it's nothing.
But I think the part you know Iam big on and the reason I
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wanted to use that word was togive a sense of connectivity to
people, because I do stand onthe scripture that say God has
not given us a spirit of fear,okay, um, so, without being
preachy, the etymology of thatword in that statement was to be
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controlled by the enemy'spresence.
When it said he does not giveus that spirit of being
controlled by the enemy'spresence because God gives us
the emotion of fear and concern,that's an emotion he gave us.
So when I said scary, you knowthe super holy people like oh,
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oh, no, no, no, god is notgiving up the spirit of fear.
Okay, but if there's a gunbeing pointed at you, you're
going to feel that.
So the the anxiety of me walkingin my purpose with a genuine
desire to please God, it itfeels different than me saying,
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hey, I could take a text, set upmy introduction, relevant
question, three points at aclose, and tap into the
emotional status of people andmake them holler, preach, boy,
right.
But that's not what I know.
God has really gifted me andpurposed me to do so.
When I come into this,understanding that, okay, god,
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you have now placed me in thisspace to be a vessel and a voice
of hope for people from allgenres, from the church person
to the person in the club, tothe plant manager at the job, to
the CEO, to the board ofdirectors, you have given me a
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platform where I can speak lifeinto them, and it's something
that I want to do and I want tomake sure I please you.
Now I take my conversationsdifferent.
I approach my conversationsdifferent because I know I'm
really representing you now,because I'm in line vertically
and I could not be effectivehorizontally until I got in line
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vertically and it became a newthing to where I'm in my fifth
decade of living.
And now, oh, this is what youanointed me to do.
This feels different.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
And that's where now, when I start seeing how, in all
these years, I tried to makethings happen.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
But then when I get in line, things just start
happening.
And now there was a statementat the end of Job's life.
I think a lot of people skipover because we celebrate the
double for his trouble.
Right, but Job made a statementhe said all my life I had heard
of you Right, but now my eyeshave seen you for myself.
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Meaning Job had already gottenthe teachings about who God was,
but when he experienced God forhimself, oh, this is different.
This is different.
This is not just what hearsayis.
So all my life I've beenhearing oh God, I do this and
he'll open up the windows ofheaven.
Right, you know he be therebefore your child but then when
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I right exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
So when I came into that space, where now I start
seeing him say Right, grab it.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Like you know what I'm saying, grab it Exactly,
exactly.
So when I came into that spacewhere now I start seeing him say
, yeah, now here you willexperience Mark, the I'll do
exceedingly and abundantly.
Before, above all, you couldever ask or even think, and
stuff just starts coming Right.
So now, when I say scary, it'slike scary in a way, like wow,
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this is it, like I'm here, okay,I got it now.
So let me make sure I handle itappropriately and handle it in
the way he ordained.
So, yeah, it.
When it did that, that was thefeeling, that was that, that was
that feeling like, ooh, okay,I'm here now, yeah, man, I don't
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think y'all heard this likelike dude.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I'm over here trying not to scream because because
that you know, literally I talkabout that, because it's
different when you get thattouch.
You know what I'm saying, likeit's just and the thing about it
.
You know, we've been in churchfor years and years and years,
and now to get to this point,and it's like, oh, it's real,
(32:53):
you know what I'm saying.
And and, man, like I'm overhere trying not to run because
that's exactly how I feel.
It's like I want to be pleasingin this.
Yeah, I done went to church, Idone did this, but now it's
different, because I want tomake sure that I'm staying in
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alignment, like you said, withhim and not just saying okay,
you know what I'm doing, it I'mgiving, I'm doing what you said
to do.
God, you know what I'm saying,but it's different, whew.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like it was.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
It was.
He gave me a differentperspective on the scripture of
your gift.
Will make room for you.
He gave me a differentperspective on the scripture of
your gift.
Will make room for you.
He gave me a differentperspective.
And I'm careful when I saythose things because I don't
want to say it's a revelation,because normally we'll say God
gave me a revelation, whichsometimes gives the impression
that whatever was said beforewas wrong, and that's not the
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case.
He gave me a differentperspective.
But what he gave me was he saidwell, mark, what do you do with
gifts?
Because we made it seem likeokay, if I my gift, my ability
to sing, will put me in positionto go sing in different places
right, so your gift make roomfor you, you know.
but in essence what he said isso, with a gift, I give it out,
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I present it to someone, and hesaid the room that it's making
is because the gift is inside ofus and sometimes we'll try to
harness it.
I don't want to release this.
If I'm full, there's nothing tobe poured in because there's no
room.
But the more I release thisgift that's why I tell people
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all the time you can't just sitback and be like I don't know
what I want to do with this, I'mjust going to stay here Then
there's no room for God to pour,there's no room for God to
replenish.
So now my ability, just tonight, in this setting, I'm making
room because God has given methe opportunity to release some
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stuff.
So now, when I get ready to laydown, he can bring his angel
and say, okay, pour some more.
Which is why I wake up tomorrowand certain things are now
available to me that would nothave been available if I was
full.
I would not have been availableif I was full, I would not have
been able to take advantage ofthem, because I decided I'd
rather stay full to keep this tomyself.
Gifts are meant to be given out.
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And that's what really puts mein this space of appreciation is
you're really allowing me tojust keep pouring out so you can
pour in, just keep pouring outso you can pour in.
Right, and I'm experiencingthat now.
I'm experiencing, oh, I wouldhave never made that phone call
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that's because he was walkingaround heavy and full.
You, you wouldn't be able tohave the presence of mind to
even make that contact becauseyou're heavy and full.
That's why when you before youget up for work and go home and
go to sleep because you're full,but when you before you get up
for work and go home and go tosleep because you're full, but
when you start pouring out, youget off of work and you got
energy.
I'm gonna stop by this placebecause god ordained this ram to
come up the other side of themountain for you to meet and
make that connection.
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So I just love it.
I love when he communicateswith us in that, in that way,
and opens up our perspective onthings.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Right, look, let the church say Well, it's time to
pass the collection plate.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Well, the preachers say everybody's standing over
the building, everybody'sstanding across the building,
right, I'm sorry, is standingover the building.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Everybody's standing across the building, right, I
understand.
You know we got nobody, I'msorry.
No, but that was so good.
You know, because you know alot of people, like you said,
when they see that scripture orhear that scripture, you know
your gift will make room for youthey thinking that it's going
to take them in different places, like you know, know how you
(37:03):
did it is, of course it'sdifferent perspective perception
.
I mean perception of that um youknow, and and in different
types of settings, of course,but, at the same token, the way
you put it and broke it down, oh, I never heard it broken down
like that.
You, you know what I'm saying,and so we have to make sure that
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we, you know the gift that Godhas given us, we are giving it
back to his people so he cancontinue to pour into us, right,
and that is that is just, youknow, incredible how you, how
you put that, because a lot ofpeople don't understand that,
and you know, and I know, thatwe have to continue to keep that
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, because, on that other side,that's where that excitement
comes from when you want to workand you want to do everything
that God has called you to do,regardless of how you keep your
excitement when you see thestorm coming right.
Because?
So how do you keep thatexcitement when now you're
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stepping into that, calling umto say you know what, here I am
yeah, my, why my?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
why my?
Why um?
So I think you probably see it,um, as my name.
My birth name is marcus um.
My mother always called me markwhen she talked to me.
Hey, mark, mark, can you comeum?
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If she introduced me or wastalking about me, she she would
say well, that's my son, marcus,but she's my wife.
The middle name, my middle name, is actually just the letter J
without a period.
It's Marcus J Little.
And when I was a kid, I waslike I want a middle name and I
used to tell her make up middlename.
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My middle name is Jareel andshe's like I'm on a middle name.
I used to tell makeup middlenames.
My middle name is Jarell.
She's like I just made a uniquebaby.
I just did.
I spell it now J-A-I.
There's two connections to that.
In 2019 was the year that I wassupposed to literally commit the
suicide that I kept planning.
In 2019, god took my mother inJanuary.
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He took my uncle in March.
He took my godmother in June.
He took my grandmother, whichwas my mom and my uncle's mom,
in September and he took whowould have been my first
grandbaby in November.
Wow, all of that in 2019, mygrandbaby's middle name was
going to be J, but she was goingto spell my daughter was going
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to spell it J, a, I, hence thetwo names put together, which I
go by Mark J and and the why isbecause my mother, I went
through a phase where I was likeGod, why didn't you allow her
to see this, marcus Right, whydidn't you allow her to see the
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fulfillment of what she spoke?
And he calmly said oh, she did.
I showed her all of it.
She saw all this, which is whyshe said this on that date,
which is why she said this onthat date.
And so my why, right now?
And then, when it comes to mygranddaughter, who would have
been my first granddaughter, godspoke to me and said I'm
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creating a healthy legacy foryou.
Wow, because, keona, I haveevery reason, you know, to say
this is why I can't do it.
Every reason from being aconvicted felon in 1998, you
know to being, you know, in andout of jail, to going down the
(40:54):
road 12 years later for aprobation violation and spend
two years in prison.
You know, and I would.
I could easily say well, thisis why I can't do it Right, but
in essence, I switched that andsaid this is why I must do it
Right, because there are men andwomen out there who have had an
ugly past.
Right, you know.
And one thing about the churchand I love the church to life.
(41:16):
However, one thing about thechurch they'll be quick to say,
well, god will forgive you.
We just don't feel like he canuse you because of what you did.
Right, we celebrate David as amurderer, we celebrate Noah as a
drunk, we celebrate all thesedysfunctional people.
Oh, but yeah, but God used himin the end.
Yeah, but you got this guy overhere that you're not letting be
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used because he had attained itpast or she had attained it
past.
So my why?
Is because of the legacy that'sover me and the legacy that
pushes me.
So when I don't feel like doingit, I have an event coming up
Saturday and the whole tone ofit is get up.
That's the first thing we'vegot to do.
We've got to get up.
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When we don't feel like it,we've got to get up when we feel
like this.
You know, and's a why am Igetting up?
Why do I get up?
When I get up in the morning togo to work, the biggest hurdle
is getting my feet on the ground.
That's my biggest hurdle,because once I do that, I'm off
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and running the biggest hurdleis coming from this horizontal
position and holding up, gettingin my 90 degree position.
And getting up, getting in my 90degree position and get these
feet on the ground.
You know, um, but that's my why, my level, my excitement is my
why.
That's what, that's what pushesme and I encourage everybody
that, if you have not taken timeto be able to identify your why
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, it's going to be difficult togo through those storms.
Right, because we, we, we dowhat we do.
When we're driving through astorm, we pull over right and we
wait for it to pass.
And in the natural, because ofthe way the earth works, storms
pass.
That's why the song came outthe storm is passing over right.
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In the spirit realm, stormsdon't move.
They're set.
It's our job to move throughthem.
So we can't pull over in thespirit realm, we can't sit still
and be like let me just waittill this get over.
I'll do this and I'll push thisconference back because now I
got to deal with this.
No, god's like.
No, marcus, I got you equippedto move through this.
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So that's what my excitement is, my why.
Every time I don't feel like it, I'm like, nope, legacy, nope,
I got to push.
I got to push Because there'sgoing to be my
great-great-grandchildren thatmay never meet me because God
may take me home, but they'llhear the story like yeah, you
know your great-pa-pa, mark.
Yeah, that's him.
That's his picture right there.
Yeah, that Mark.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
I love that.
Literally one thing that yousaid is you wish that your mom
would see this.
I often think about that.
We're living our parents, ourgrandparents and parents um
prayers right now yes, you knowwhat I'm saying.
(44:09):
Yes, um and like, and one thingthat used that stuck out to me.
And you say that god said shesaw this.
Yeah, she saw this.
That's why she was praying forit right but now we're stepping
into those prayers, the amen.
Those prayers answered that ourgrandmother and our grandfather
and you know, and even my dadprayed for us and to say you
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know what, now we're able tostep into those that call it,
and I love how you, you know youput that.
And even when I was thinkingabout, when you're talking about
the storm, we cannot stop whenthe storm comes Right.
And even though sometimes thestorm, like you know, and I'm
going to say I went through ahailstorm Right and I and I
(44:58):
pulled to the side and I say youknow what, god, I'm going to
make it through here but andkept going slow and sometimes
you have to go slow?
Yes, absolutely.
It doesn't matter.
And sometimes you have to payattention to when God tells you
to stop, because sometimes thereis a time where you need to
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stop and reflect and refocus andstuff like that.
But you have to keep going,regardless of what the storm is,
regardless of what thesituation is, regardless of how
it looks.
And you know, like even yousaid in 2019, where you know you
had multiple of death, you hadreasons why you could stop.
(45:41):
You know it's always a reason.
You know what I'm saying yes,but it's not an excuse.
You know what I'm saying, butit's not like you say right,
right, I love that.
You know how you, um, and youeven kind of show your
determination in that, um, youknow going forward, but going
forward now, even, how more,much more are you determined to
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get to that legacy or get tothat goal which you're trying to
get to?
Speaker 3 (46:07):
No excuses.
No excuses, you mean to tell me, god, you kept me alive through
all of this?
Right Determination man, that'sit.
I'll use Kobe Bryant's phrasewhen a young athlete, kyrie
(46:29):
Irving was real young, he's likeman when I put $10,000 in, I
can beat you one-on-one.
And Kobe's response was easymoney.
Just easy money.
Determination is easy for menow.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
It's easy for me now and because I've seen too much,
I've seen God bring me throughtoo much, mm, hmm, and that's
the piece that I think the otherD in my alliteration is I
couldn't get to get intodetermination if I didn't have
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discipline, determination if Ididn't have discipline.
I think that's what a lot of usmiss.
We want to be determined, butwe don't want to be disciplined.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Right.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
It sounds good that I'm going to get up at 3 o'clock
every morning and go to the gym, or 4 o'clock in the morning
and go to the gym before I go towork.
When the long clock goes off, Ihave every reason.
I didn't get enough sleep, soI'm going to eat this food.
But when I got to get up and go, get showered and go to work,
I'm going to go to the gym afterwork.
But now I got the agenda afterwork so I miss the whole day.
And it's the only thing aboutthis Monday thing, like I'm
(47:37):
going to start on Monday.
What Monday?
Monday never comes, mondaynever comes.
I'd have had so many Mondays,oh my goodness.
And so the determination.
For me it's a no brainer right.
(47:59):
I'm all in.
I have literally jumped off theboat with no life jacket, Mark,
you got to swim.
You have literally jumped offthe boat with no life jacket,
Mark, you got to swim.
Right, you chose to jump offthis boat.
No, I don't need a life jacket,I'm going to swim.
And so that's what drives me towhere God.
You kept me through all of this2019.
(48:21):
You kept me through COVID andhospitalized and wishing for
death.
Wow, because I hit COVID inJanuary, so my granddaughter
dies in November.
I catch COVID.
I'm laying up in the hospitaland I'm mad when I wake up.
Why do you keep waking me up?
And I'm literally saying thisdoctors, I really don't want.
Is there anything?
(48:41):
Y'all?
I know it's unethical, but quitgiving me well, just send me
home.
I really I wanted to call mybrothers and say hey y'all.
Jason, you know you're mybeneficiary.
You know you got it.
I'm done.
I just can't do this, no more.
But God kept waking me up everyday and people ask how did you
get through that?
I don't know.
I just woke up every day.
But now I realize destiny wasattached to me.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Right.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Right.
So in order to get to that, mydiscipline had to be in place,
determination had to exist sothat destiny can occur.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Right.
And so determination right now.
If for those of you guyswatching I sound like I'm
tele-imagining, but for thosethat are watching, the
determination doesn't getbirthed until discipline is
conceived.
You've got to put that in placeand start.
Start, that's it.
(49:38):
Start One minute.
Do one thing better today thanyou did yesterday.
Don't try to paint the wholepainting.
Don't try to put the wholepuzzle together.
Find the edges.
That's how we used to putpuzzles together when I was a
kid.
Find the edges.
Quit trying to bring off.
If you put any two piecestogether, you will drive
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yourself crazy.
Where's the piece that fits?
Find the edges, get them alltogether.
That's the first step.
We get them all together.
That's date.
That's the first step.
We put them all together andthen we go from there.
So that's the thing that I wantto encourage people to take
that first step, one step.
Do one thing better today.
Get one percent better than youwere yesterday, whatever it is.
Write five sentences in yourbook, put it together, have a
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sense of accomplishment so youcan see yourself moving forward.
That's the determination.
So that discipline has to exist, it has to be conceived before
you give birth to determination.
My discipline took years ofconsistency before I get to this
point of determination.
So that's where I am mentallywhen it comes to that.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Right, that's, I love that and I need, I need my
notebook, I should, I shouldwrite my notebook.
I need some notes.
You know what I'm saying.
You know.
I think that that is.
That is that you know, like yousay about about discipline.
You need discipline because inorder for you to be able to do
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or stay consistent in anything,you got to be disciplined.
I don't care what nobody say.
You know people, I get up hereon the podcast and I'd be.
It'd be days where I'd be like,oh, I don't feel like doing that
Right right, especially, youknow, even now, you know, being
that I do this and get on socialmedia, I'd be so sad, I'd be
(51:30):
like Lord, I don't feel like,but that is how I'm reaching
people, right, Right right.
I have to continue to do thatbefore you know and stay
consistent at doing it.
You know what I'm saying, so Ican be you know, get to that
determination or get to thatdestiny that God is calling me
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because in order for me to getthere and like I often say,
destiny is not a place, it's ajourney, because you're going-
to keep moving towards somethingyou ain't going to never get
there, I'm telling you You'rejust going to get to a certain
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level and then you start over atthe next level and keep moving.
That's one thing that I like tosay to people.
I just want to ask you one morequestion.
If you had to leave your18-year-old self something, what
advice would you give your18-year-old self?
Speaker 3 (52:40):
Believe who God says you are.
Believe, believe.
My 18-year-old self was Believewho God says you are.
Yeah, believe, believe.
My 18-year-old self was giftedbeyond measure Right Basketball
star.
You know, I was that guy.
But when I got to that nextplace, my belief system was
(53:01):
contaminated.
And I say this in church a lotthe enemy doesn't care anything
about you coming to worship.
He don't care about you singing.
He don't care about youshouting, running, sweating,
falling out.
He cares nothing about.
He'll stand right next to youand be like there.
You go, shout, holler, yeah dothat.
The one thing he does not wantyou to do is wake up one morning
(53:22):
and believe, once you believeyou're who God says you are.
He has been disarmed.
He has been disarmed, andthat's his daily arsenal is to
keep you in doubt, to keep yousecond guessing, to keep you
giving excuses, to keep youblaming.
(53:42):
And so that would be what Iwould say Is believe you are who
God says you are.
Believe what you heard, becausethey were telling you since you
were six You're different,you're special.
You just don't believe it yet,and if you get to this point
where you can start believing,things will really, really be
(54:04):
different for you.
Speaker 1 (54:05):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
But the last thing I would tell him, though, is but
don't change it, because I likethe 53-year-old.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (54:15):
You're going to catch hell.
You're going to catch hell, butI like where the 53-year-old
ended up.
I love that he's that guy, he'slove that he's that guy, he's
that guy.
He's that guy.
Okay, people tell me they sayat work they be like ooh, when I
grow up I'm going to be justlike you.
Back in the day he's like ooh.
No, don't say that.
You know what I say to him now.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
I'm a hell.
I'm him.
Oh, my goodness, that is just.
You know what you were talkingdirectly to me.
You know about belief.
You know we have to knowbecause a lot of people have
imposter syndrome, right.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
They are doing something and they don't feel
like they are supposed to bedoing it, but God has brought
you there for a reason.
So don't, don't, don't worry,don't care about the imposter
syndrome.
Believe in who God has createdyou to be.
Believe where God has put youand in rooms that God has put
you in and in places that Godhas put you before, has put you
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in and in places where God hasput you before.
So I'm so excited that you havebeen here.
Like you have really, reallyblessed my soul, like I
literally have learned moreabout Marcus than I've learned.
Yeah, and I'm so excited thatyou've been here.
Just let everybody know wherethey can reach you at.
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If you have anything else leftto say, do that and then you can
pray.
Go ahead on prayers and thenI'll end us out.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
Okay, you can reach me on.
I am Mark J.
I've just got into theInstagram, so, yeah, that part.
But I do have an event comingup in November.
You can go to my website I'vejust created as a landing page
right now, exclusively for theNovember event, but it's
(56:14):
IamMartJorg.
We have a no More Excusesexperience November 15th here in
Warner Robins, bringing a bunchof motivational speakers
together to speak life intopeople from different genres as
well as preach.
You know speakers and pastors,but it's going to be a day of
just celebrating, you know,celebrating who we are.
(56:35):
But, yeah, you can reach me onI am Mark J, across all
platforms.
And yeah, and I would just wantto encourage you guys, get up.
Get up, no more excuses.
Get up, take that one minuteand change.
Do something better.
Do something better Tonight,you still got time.
If you're watching this live,you still got time.
Do something better today thanyou did on yesterday and keep
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progressing.
God got you.
God got you.
We'll pray, father.
God, we thank you so much forthis amazing day that you have
blessed us to see.
You have given us life andyou've given us life more
abundantly, regardless of whatthe enemy tries to portray as
not where we want to be.
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We are definitely right wherewe were ordained to be.
You knew this day would come.
You knew we would be right herebefore you even said let there
be light.
So, god, because of that,because you're sovereign,
because you know all things, wetrust and we thank you for where
you have us.
God, I thank you for Kiana.
I thank you for this gift thatyou have deposited into this
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space for this season.
God.
I thank you for what she isdoing.
God, I thank you for this giftthat you have deposited into
this space for this season.
God, I thank you for what sheis doing.
God, I thank you for everythingthat you have in store for her.
Lord, I thank you for blowingher mind.
I thank you for releasing intoher life those things that she
could not even imagine, shedidn't even put on her vision
board.
She didn't even put into hervision board that she didn't
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even put into her plans.
Thank you for releasing that andfor everyone that has the
opportunity to hear this prayer,whether now or recorded, god, I
thank you now, lord, for givingthem that place of peace and
comfort and confidence inknowing that you got them, that
they are in your hands, god.
Lord, I speak into thosevisionaries to give them the
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desire to take that first step,to get up.
To get up.
Let the alarm clock in theirminds go off and do not let the
enemy convince them to hit thesnooze button, but to put their
feet on the ground, get up andwalk in their purpose.
God, we love you, we praise youand we thank you in Jesus name.
Amen, amen.
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Amen.
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Oh, you're about to have me tearing up over here.
I don't want to be crying.
So I'm so excited, lord.
I tell you I'm so full rightnow.
Tell you I'm so full right now.
I thank you so much thank you, Ienjoyed it anytime we get
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together, I do enjoy it because,I tell you, god has really,
really, like you said, heplanned this time years ago and
so, anyways, I thank you all fortuning in.
Like I often say, if you wantto give your life to Christ, you
can ask, you can acknowledgethat you are a sinner, you can
confess with your mouth andbelieve in your heart that Jesus
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Christ died on the cross, youcan turn from your ways, and
then you can seek after aBible-based church, a church
that is teaching the word andnot changing the word.
Ok, so, anyways, I thank youagain.
Thank you again.
You can always, if you want tobe a blessing in this ministry,
you can always scan the barcode,go to buy, buy me a coffee and
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and go, and you know, buy me asmany coffees as you want.
You know, and don't forgetabout the book.
You can always scan the barcode, go and get the book.
Why Not Me?
It's a blueprint frombrokenness to breakthrough.
I guarantee you it is going totransform your life.
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So, anyways, I thank you again,mark, for being on here.
I'm so excited and please,please, please, just thank you
for Christ.
All right, bye, y'all.
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