April 30, 2025 • 50 mins
The podcast explores how Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s civil rights movement and Nehemiah's biblical wall-building mission demonstrate the power of interdependence and shared vision in accomplishing God-given missions.
• Faithfulness requires us to be steadfast to God's calling despite obstacles
• God places specific missions on our hearts that require collaboration with others
• Dr. King's iconic "I Have a Dream" speech resulted from numerous partnerships and collective effort
• Nehemiah had to secure letters from the king and organize workers to rebuild Jerusalem's walls
• Shared vision requires partnership - no great mission can be accomplished alone
• Successful partnerships depend on choosing the right collaborators who add value
• Both Dr. King and Nehemiah faced significant opposition yet persevered through prayer and community support
• When God gives us a vision, He provides the connections and resources needed to fulfill it
• Faith means taking the first step without seeing the entire staircase
• Many of us hesitate to pursue God's calling because we want to know all the details in advance
• Our generation often gives up easily while previous generations persevered through much greater hardships
If you feel God calling you to something greater, remember that it starts with giving your life to Christ. ACT: Acknowledge you're a sinner, Confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus died and rose again, Turn from your ways, and Seek a Bible-based church.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Then I look up and I just thank God Lest as I can be
there, for I'm gonna lift yourname high.
We just kickin' it and havin'that conversation Cute for
Christ.
Every home so often I look upand I just thank God Lest as I
can be there, for I'm gonna liftyour name high.
(00:23):
We just kickin' it and havin'that conversation.
Cute for Christ, we'll seeright back.
Thank you.
Every home so often I look upand I just thank God.
Bestest I can be.
Therefore, I'm gonna lift yourname high.
We just kicking it and livingout the conversation, you'd fall
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and cry.
Holy spirit reign, holy spiritrule.
Do what you wanna do what youwanna do.
Move how you gonna move, howyou gonna move.
Use who you gonna use, who yougonna use.
I'm so very grateful for theopportunity to build community
and truly be examples to theyouth.
It's a new day with a new way.
Do what you say.
Okay, I will obey praise to thefather for options to blossom
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my god's, to declare that my godis the dopest.
Salute, respect to the bloomingof god and kiana, my girl.
She give hope to the hopeless.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You could be going through something because hey
everyone, this is kiana, yourcreator and your host of q for
christ.
And look, you know, using thisdude, this new technology ain't
always the greatest when youain't used it in a long time.
(02:22):
So y'all, pray, pray mystrength, hallelujah, thank you
jesus.
So, anyways, anyways, we arehere with the books of the bible
and I am so excited about umtoday.
Um, how are y'all doing today?
Look, let me tell y, tell y'allhow the enemy want to come in.
(02:46):
He want to come in because hedone got where the Harvard video
ain't working.
Let me tell y'all that ain'tnothing to deal with y'all.
So, anyways, how are you doingtoday, hillary?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I am doing wonderfully, blessed and highly
favored.
I am so glad to be here ontoday to be able to share with
all of you on today.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yes, I'm telling y'all, it's gonna be a good,
good day.
I'm so excited about what Godhas given us.
Anyways, thank you for being onhere and your time.
How are you, elder Harper?
We can't see her Beautiful faceit's alright Doing pretty good.
Glad to be on here with y'all,glad to be in the number.
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I'm telling you God is soamazing and he's so good, but
you know what he has won again.
That song has been in my spirit, um, it just dropped in my
spirit a second ago, so, um,anyways, anyways, as y'all know,
this is the books of the bible.
(03:59):
We are up here, um, with thebooks of the bible I'm so
excited about today.
First, I want to say happy mlkey mlk day, happy martin king
day, and, and so tonight we aregoing to continue to talk about
what god has given us, aboutfaith, but we're gonna add a
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little twist to it.
So I'm so excited about it.
It's going to be like a tributeto Dr Martin King, on top of
talking about interdependenceand all that stuff.
So I'm so excited.
So, before I go any further, Iam going to go right on in with
prayer, because we want to moveswiftly, since we had technical
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difficulties and so.
So I want to be you know, beswift with everything today.
So, anyways, I'm going to say aquick prayer, then we'll move
forward, okay, so, dear heavenlyfather, we come to you, god.
We say thank you.
We say thank you for everythingthat you have done, god.
We thank you for even bringingus to this day, god, january the
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20th.
God, we thank you now for 20days into this year where we'll
be able to.
We have done so much in these20 days, god, and we thank you
now because we know that you'regoing to take us further, god,
and so we just love you, god,for what you're doing.
God, we just thank you now forthe houses that are represented
on tonight.
God, go with them and go withtheir family, touch them from
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the crown of their head to thesole of their feet, god.
God, we just thank you now foranybody that is on here, god,
that is looking and searching tobe able to know about the books
of the Bible.
God, we just thank you nowbecause we want to be able to be
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a vessel for you and give themwhat you have given us, god, and
so we thank you now for whatyou're doing, god, we thank you
now for anybody that is on here,god, we ask you to hide us
behind the cross.
Allow them to see you, god, andso we thank you for what you're
doing.
We love you, we honor you, wecherish you.
It's in Jesus name that I pray.
So, hey, y'all Look.
Amen, I need to chill out.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I need to chill out.
Hey, good evening.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yes, I love that.
I love that.
Yes, so I'm so excited becausewe are using a new app today,
which is something that you knowhelp us be able to get the
message across, not just oneplatform, but a couple platforms
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at the same time.
So we are talking with peoplefrom YouTube and a lot of people
from the Q for Christ pages andstuff like that, so I'm super
excited about that.
So, anyways, like I said, wewant to jump right on into it.
And so, since it is, we arecelebrating Martin Luther King
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on today because, of course, weknow his birthday was January
15th, but we are celebrating himon today I wanted to kind of
bring what he did and into ourmessage on today, and I'm so
excited because, if you know him, you have been following us.
We have been talking aboutfaith and and of course, the F
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is for faithful we want to befaithful, we want to be faithful
to God, to the calling, what hehas called us to, and then we
want to be available to God'swill, whatever he has called us.
We got to make sure that we say, yes, here I am Lord, yes, and
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then we are to have been talkingabout the interdependence and
then, um, we got the teacherbook coming up next, and then
hunger.
So today we are talking abouthow Martin, how, how Dr Martin
Luther King, with you know hisand how he had to the
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interdependence, and so how allof us had to work together, all
everybody during that time hadto collaborate and go into
partnership in order for him tobe able to do what he had dream
right, for his dream to comeabout.
And so, um, I'm so superexcited about this because it,
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you know, we know that, that youknow the I have a dream speech
was one of the most iconicspeeches that in history, and
especially for us and those thatum there marching, I know my
mom, you know she used to makeus go to all the marches because
she was a part of the marchesback then, and not to say she,
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oh, look y'all, I know y'allthinking, no, I don't think that
.
So, when you think about theinterdependence and how Dr
Martin Luther King had to relyon others, what comes to mind
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when you think about that?
Either L Harper or Hillary.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Well, I mean, it was a lot of people back then.
I know Martin Luther King, hecould not have done all of that
by himself, right, a lot ofpeople coming together, working
together to get it done, and Ithink you know everybody's name
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wasn't mentioned, of course,because it was a lot of people
that was behind the scene.
And we're still, even today,finding out who was there and
who did this and who did that,and you know it took a lot of
work from everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Hey, yes, yes, it did , and um and so, uh, elder
harper, what do you think aboutit?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I know, I wish you could get her video on it anyway
, what you think about it no,yeah, I agree totally with
hillary.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I think, um, that's, that's a big deal, that you know
, it was a great big project, agreat big vision.
It was huge, and nobody can dosomething like that by
themselves.
And I've heard it often saidthat, um, if the thing that we
think that we can do, the visionthat we have, if it seems like
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we can do it ourselves, that isnot from the Lord.
So he really depended on plentyof people to accomplish what he
wanted to do Exactly.
And so, yeah, I mean, we haveto know that you know our vision
.
Yes, god, give us the vision,but we have to have a circle, we
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have to have some people thatcould help us accomplish these
goals.
And so one of the correlationthat in the Bible that God put
to kind of today, you know, kindof, you know, show the
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similarity of what happenedbetween Nehemiah had to, he
wanted, he had a burning to goback and help build the wall for
his people, and, and so we I'ma read Nehemiah 2 and 17 to 17
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through 18.
I'm trying to get you up tospeed because, is you know, and
I'm going to try to get you upto speed because it's you know,
and I'm going to try to go fast,but you know, nehemiah, he was
working for a big king and youknow he was the cup bearer,
where you know that was a veryextreme job, where he tasted the
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wine before the king drunk itto make sure it wasn't any
poison.
But his, you know, his brothercame and his brother told him
how it, you know, their countrywas being burnt and and how it
was the sadness that came on hisheart and so he wanted to go
back and build a wall, and sothe verses that I read to y'all
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he had to really have thecourage to be able to ask could
he go back?
You know what I'm saying.
But he had found favor in theLord and he asked God to.
You know, please help him findfavor in the king's heart.
And so, right here, where, whereI'm gonna read to you, is
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nehemiah 2, 17 through 18, and Idon't want to, I can't go back
and read too much because I knowwe, for the sake of time, but I
plead with you all, I and I dothis every week Please go and,
you know, read the whole, thewhole chapter, and don't just
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read that one chapter.
Go back and read so you can getsome context and be able to.
You know, I can give you alittle bit and get you up to
speed.
I can't, you know, I won't beable to sit here the whole time.
You up to speed.
I can't, you know, I won't beable to sit here the whole time.
So so anyways, verse two, 17through 18, it said then I said
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to them you see the badsituation that we are in, how
Jerusalem is desolate and liesin ruins and its gates have been
burned with fire.
Come and let us rebuild thewall of Jerusalem so that we
would no longer be a disgrace.
And his brother was coming andasking him this.
So in verse 18, it said then Itold them how the hand of my God
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had been favorable to me andalso about the words been
favorable to me, and also aboutthe words that the king had
spoken to me.
And they said let us rise upand build.
So they thoroughly supportedthe good work.
So at this point he had alreadyfound favor with the king and
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they told him they gave himeverything.
Now found favor with the kingand they told they gave him
everything.
Now, when you think about that,darlene, you know how sometimes
we'd be so scared to even askpeople for stuff when we got to
burn it in our heart for certainthings.
How, you know, when you look atthis and you think about what Dr
Martin Luther King had to gothrough when he thought about it
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like, ok God, you called me forthis, and you know when he had
to, like, go ask, how do youthink he felt in that moment
when they had to say, oh, I gotto go ask somebody to help.
You know, I'm thinking, maybe,that what you mentioned
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regarding the passion, thatburning in the heart, there's
something about a dream, there'ssomething about a vision that
really pushes, that reallydrives, yes, and it there's an
unction to function on theinside of us.
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So there it, there has to besome mobility and that picks up
the momentum.
And I believe that he was ableto ride the wave of the momentum
that was created.
And it's not to say that youknow he probably didn't have
hiccups or challenges, you know,along the way, but you know he
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probably was realized.
This was a selfless mission, youknow and it just kind of had to
be done, and that to me, I mean, you're not thinking about
yourself so much, you know,right?
So, though he may have probablyhad some apprehensions, I don't
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think it probably bothered himtoo too much, right?
Because you know, like you said, when you you know, especially
when you have found favor withGod and and it's sometimes you
know we have to we have to knowthat it's a God given mission,
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right?
So when you got a God givenmission, it don't matter, like
it's, yeah, it's it's difficultto open your mouth.
When you know that you got Godbacking, it gets a little bit
easier, right?
And so you know.
So the first point that I wantto talk about is the shared
vision.
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That requires partnership.
We know that Dr Martin LutherKing, the civil rights movement,
was not a one-man mission,right, you know, dr King, he
partnered with organizationslike Southern Christian
Leadership Conference, otherleaders like Ralph Abernathy and
Bayer Rustin and a lot ofpeople that, like you said,
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hillary, a lot of people wasn'tnamed.
It was a lot of activists.
That wasn't named.
It was a lot of people thatmarched and protested and prayed
for this change.
You know, and just like howNehemiah, you know he had to get
a lot of people.
You know the king had to writea letter to allow him to be able
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to go past and allow a letterfor him to get the material to
help build the wall and stufflike that.
And so when you think about thatword partnership and see a lot
of people don't want to humblethemselves enough to have to be
in partnership with people.
But when you think about doinggreat things and how it requires
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that partnership, you know,like for me, you know, I know,
like the scripture says inEcclesiastes 4 and 9, two are
better than one.
So you know, when I think aboutthis, and so I'm looking at you
, hillary, because you like, yougot something to say.
You like, you got something tosay when you think about that
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word partnership, how heavy orstrong that word relies to you.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Well, it all is determined on who you're
partnered with, right?
You know, if you have anawesome partner that is doing
things and all hands on, I don'tmind being partnered with you.
But if you have somebody that'sgoing to let you do all the
work and they take all thecredit, then that partnership is
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not a great partnership.
So it all depends on who youpartnered with.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, right, it all depends on who you partnered
with.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
You know Right.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
If you partnered with God, then yeah, Girl, I was
thinking.
You know, a net partnershipmade me think about a marriage.
You know what?
I'm saying Like everybody, haveto do their part.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, everybody have to do their part.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And everybody have to have that shared vision.
And when it comes to that, youknow we have to make sure that
we are, you know, to achieve thevision I feel like you got to
make it plain right.
Yeah, you got to be on the samepage, because if you get
somebody who is seem likethey're on the enemy team it's
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like Lord Darlene, what do yougot to say about that little
shit?
Look.
I went Lord Jesus about thatlittle shit.
Look, I went, lord Jesus.
What you got to say about that,elder Harper?
No, I don't have anything, Idon't.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You just got to make sure you got the right partner,
honey.
You got to make sure you gotthe right partner, man.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And Harper, what you got to say about that.
Like you know, I'm trying tocome back for that.
I'm stumped back for thatbecause, hillary, I'm stumped, I
don't have it.
Lord, have mercy.
But you know, like you say, youhave to make sure that they're
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not.
They're leaning on the Lord'sside, leaning on the Lord's side
?
Where do you stand?
Who's on the lord's side?
That that is so true because,um, you know.
But you know, elder harvard,have there been any visions that
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god has given you that you justhad to, like, lay down and
humble yourself in partnershipwith and say you know what, I'm
gonna do this with somebody,with you.
Um, I think it was the oppositefor me because, um, it's been
more of he's wanting me to dothings myself.
I think I've been more quickerto look and reach for help and
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want assistance and things likethat.
So I'm kind of on the other endof the spectrum with that.
But partnering overall ingeneral is still good, and the
partnering that I do have toendure is the pushing, is the
pushing when I don't want to bepushed.
So that's still a form ofpartnering, because there may be
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times where it does get hard orchallenging, or we don't want
to go or move or it's not theflow that we are looking for,
but that help is there andDarlene, you got something there
, because a lot of the moviesthat I've seen with Martin
Luther King, he had to be pushed.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
He had to be pushed to do a lot of stuff.
Sometimes you have to be pushedA lot of people are pushed into
their greatness.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It does go both ways.
You know I'm saying you, I mean, but you know that and at in
the end, even if you are goingto be pushed, they, you know
that it's a god, god givenmission and it's like, okay,
well, I'm a, you know, I'm gonnapush you.
I'm gonna push you because Ineed you.
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You know what I'm saying.
Some people don't add value toit.
So if they're not going to addvalue to it, then you ain't got
to push them, you got to worryabout them.
Look, I don't need you anyway.
You know what I'm saying, so Ishouldn't have to push you.
But when you know that God hassent you to this person or
whatever, then that's when youhave to say, ok, I need you, you
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need me, let's, let's get thistogether.
And you know, I see a pictureand I wish I had, or I could
have, could have displayed it,but one of my, one of my um,
they may have put it up and itwas a picture of fish that um
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they were, they were all alltogether.
It was like fish that made onebig fish to kill the shark.
And it was like, oh my God, itwas so powerful.
Because if we all can cometogether like that, we can all
get the mission accomplished,which is to go against the enemy
right, you know what I'm saying.
And so that was so powerful initself I was like, wow, that's
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such a powerful thing, so, butanyways, moving on to the next
one is the overcoming thechallenges through the
collaboration.
And I think that what we wastalking about that's one of the
challenges is when you got topush somebody and like, for me,
that's one of the challengesLike God, you know this person,
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I got to pull a teeth.
I ain't you know.
Like my God, ain't no dentist,you know what I'm saying.
Like I got to pull a teeth, youknow.
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So we know that even with DrMartin Luther King, the civil
rights movement, he faced a lotof oppositions, including
threats, violence and systematicinjustice.
So we know that Dr King reliedon the strength of the
collective to persevere, topersevere.
And then Nehemiah rebuildingthe wall of Jerusalem.
He was not without oppositioneither.
He had enemies that he had todeal with, like Sambalat and
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Tobiah.
They mocked and tried todiscourage the workers.
And so we know that even whenyou do have the partnership, you
have to know that you are goingto face those challenges, those
different types of challenges.
Right, we know that it's goingto come, we don't have to worry
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about it.
We know one thing that's goingto happen for sure is we're
gonna get those oppositions.
So when you, um think aboutthat word, and uh, and, and even
some of the challenges thathappened, um, with dr martha
luther king, um, especially likethe violence that went along
with it, um, how do you thinkthat he felt when he had to deal
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with that?
You, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I can imagine him not feeling good at all.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
He was like God you know why?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Why me Right?
Why do I have to do it?
You know they did a lot backthen and I thank God that you
know for them, because if it wasme, I was, I think they were
built different back then.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, they were built different Like for real Like
you know, and even though I meangirl, just looking at Nehemiah
and how he handled his, heprayed and organized the people
to defend themselves whilecontinuing to work.
You know what I'm saying.
That's almost like Dr MartinLuther King.
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Dr Martin Luther King alwayswanted to result with no
violence.
Right, right, you know.
And yes, you know, like yousaid, I mean I'm sorry.
I mean because you are what youwere saying.
I'm sorry.
Oh, oh, no, I was saying, oh,mama says he had to rely on God.
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Yes, he really did, because Imean violence is violence.
You know that those hardshipswere awful and, like Hillary
said, I really can't imagine,because I think they probably
really lived at a high level ofstress because you know they
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were concerned about their lives, you know for a lot of this
stuff.
You know it was always veryrisky.
It shouldn't have been.
And yeah, I believe, like shesaid, you did have to rely on
God for strength to continue.
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It probably was a lot and Ithink that that's why people who
are called, who are chosen,they're given the grace to be
able to go through those things.
Right, right, and like theBible says in Nehemiah 4.14,.
It says don't be afraid of them.
Says in Nehemiah 4, 14, it saysdon't be afraid of them.
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Remember the Lord, who is greatand awesome, and fight for your
families, your sons and yourdaughters, your wives and your
home.
So when you know that rightthere in itself, like, like you
know, like my mom just said, youhave to rely on God, you know,
even in those things, those arethe things that we have to do is
know that God has our back,regardless of any situation that
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comes, any obstacle that come.
You know our God is greater,greater is he in me than he is
in the world.
So we have to know that wedon't have to.
That is one way that we canhelp others overcome those
challenges.
You know, and make sure that wealways, always speak of how God
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is, is with us.
You know what I'm saying andespecially, you know when we
know that it's a God givenmission.
Right and especially you know,when we know that it's a God
given mission.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Right, oh yeah, you can't mess with me when I know
that it's God.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I know that God sent me.
You know what I'm saying, likeyou know.
So, anyways, the next one istrusting God and relying on
other strength.
You know Dr Martin Luther KingJr.
He relied on prayer and hisunwavering faith in God.
That was his foundational andleadership and his foundation of
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leadership.
So he also trusted in the giftsof others to make the movement
successful, like speech writersand the community leaders, and
played key roles, and so, andwith Nehemiah, he trusted God.
Throughout the building processhe had the interest with all
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the people that was going tohelp, the talents and the
strength of others and stufflike that.
So when you think about that andwe talking about
interdependence, right, and so,like the Bible says in 1
Corinthians, 12 and 12, just asa body, though one has many
parts, but all has many parts,form one body, so it is with
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Christ.
So when you think about that,the interdependence and how this
right here shows that we had torely on others, they had to
rely on other strength, whatcomes to mind when you think
about that?
I mean, because I know, like Isaid, we've been talking about
interdependence, but when youthink about a God-given mission
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like this, like Dr Martin LutherKing and like how Nehemiah,
what y'all think about that, Ithink that it's a person would
have to move with total andcomplete faith because, looking
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forward at what you're supposedto be doing, you're going.
What the lord put on your heart, um, you literally are now, I'm
not gonna say waiting forthings to fall in your lap, but
you definitely have to bestepping forward and reaching
out at the same time, you knowit's like you just automatically
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know the Lord is about toprovide Right, because how else
you know literally how else sois is that that faith is
reaching.
And so if he was praying, thenhe has had already obtained
those things through prayer andhis actions was really just
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following through with what hebelieved he had already received
.
So those connections that he hadto have with various people,
like you said, in the communitywho helped him with various
tasks and everything had to belike like strategic people in
certain locations, all of thosethings are very, very like I
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have to be God led, you know,something so large, like at the
magnitude that he was able toaccomplish, I mean that really
this really could be, um, anexample of a move of God, like
of you know, the power of theLord, the Lord coming through
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for what you know, accomplishingwhat he wants to get done Right
.
And I use people like him forexamples regarding faith and
things like that all the time,because I just believe that when
he chooses people to advancethe kingdom and advance society,
he is taking I'm not going tosay taking over, but he is
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orchestrating things Like yousaid behind the scenes, you see.
So when we see manifestation onthe outside of all this great
action and all of these thingstaking place, we have to know
that it wasn't, you know, peopleby themselves just coming up
with ideas, doing stuff.
You know, for that level ofcohesion and community and
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things like that, it just theLord has to be in it, right and
and, like you said, especiallythe the um faith that he had to
exhibit.
Like can you imagine the faiththat you had to exhibit,
especially when you were?
You know, um, and and I'msaying you know Dr Martin Luther
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King, but even Nehemiah, and Ican even go back to you know how
moses had to depend on certainpeople you know what I'm saying
like you know that faith umespecially to accomplish things
as this big of a magnitude rightyou
know, um, just like with, andthe only reason why I was
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thinking about moses, I wasthinking about how you know the
people, the children of Israelwas praying for a savior, and I
know that even during the civilrights, a lot of people was
praying for a savior.
You know what I'm saying.
Like was praying for a way out,praying for a different, a
change of things, and, and whenGod you know we would they were
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praying about it and God put iton his heart, you know, and for
him to, you know, have had tohave that unwavering faith and
say, okay, you know what, I'mgoing to do something about this
.
You know what I'm saying.
And I need it.
Like Hillary said earlier, allhands on deck, like I need, I
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need everybody, that that isgonna help.
It might not be, it might notlook good on the other side, but
we're gonna make it right andso, um, you know, I think that
that that is that is very huge.
You know, I'm saying like to,especially to complete a vision
that big and that huge.
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So, when you think about thevision that God has given us,
you know what I'm saying.
Like we have a little smallvision.
You know what I'm saying?
Wow.
You know, we be having visionlike writing a book.
You know what be having likevision like writing a book, you
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know saying like oh, I justgotta write a book you know what
I'm saying, or not just saying,you know, god, give us, give
some people little vision.
They be scared to even, you know, partnership with others and
and these and people like drmargaret king had to get, you
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know, do something so huge andso great.
I could just imagine all thethings that he had to deal with,
you know I don't even think heimagined like he even saw the
change that was coming.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
He just knew he had to do something.
Their bats were against thewall.
Like I said, I can't imaginebeing born in that time.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I could just imagine Literally I mean you know like I
said and Mama could attest toit, I know she marched once,
once or twice, I think it was.
I can imagine having to justmarch for my freedom.
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You know what I'm saying.
When we got all this freedom todo whatever, you know what I'm
saying and we take it forgranted, we don't want to
partner with nobody.
We don't want to share nothingwith nobody.
We don't even want to sharewhat the Lord done, did for us.
A lot of people don't even wantto tell the goodness of Jesus.
They be scared.
You know what I'm saying, andit is not that they don't want
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to.
Some people they are scaredbecause people think you
boasting and bragging or whatnot.
You know what I'm saying.
And sometimes we have torecognize that God places people
in our life for a reason.
You know we got to learn how tolean on other people.
We got to learn on, you know,like, be willing to take their
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gifts or help them, you know.
And so we got to be as people.
We got to be united for the Godgiven vision, you know.
You know.
So I mean like, when you thinkabout that darling, like what I
said about how people don't wantto, even want to do the small
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thing.
They only want to do the smallchallenges.
All right, yeah, because Idon't know the world we live in.
Like I said they were builtdifferent and we just be on some
other stuff too.
It's like, why is it so hardfor us to just like be happy for
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each other to um, to do, um,like to, to not be jealous or to
or to, you know, encourage?
And I think some groups got itgoing good, but some it's like
it's still a challenge and so,and on the other aspect of what
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we're talking about, yeah, histask was so great and there are
small things.
Oh my gosh, now I feel like wetalk about me again, because I
mean the simplest stuff that hasto get done you know, the
smallest thing.
It's, like mine, monumental,like it's just so big and it's I
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can't imagine all the stuffthat he had to actually not let
the ball drop on him.
You know what I mean.
Like what if he was like eh, I'mnot going to do it today, or
you know, right, I'm going towait for so-and-so to get back
with me, girl, and we be, so,like you said, we be ready to
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just cancel it.
Well, it is a little slow, butwe be ready to just cancel it.
Well, it is a little snow, butwe be ready to cancel it.
It's just a little snow.
And we be like uh-uh, I ain'tspending the go-ahead.
You want me to march?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Uh-uh, my daughter came to me and she was like can
I stay at home tomorrow?
It's going to be cold, right?
No?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
And they had to march in cold weather.
We be ready to shut it down.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Shut everything down.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
I don't even want to go to work tomorrow.
It's supposed to be 12 degreesand feel like six degrees and
I'm like, look at it.
It's supposed to be 12 degreesand feel like six degrees and
I'm like, look at it.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
It's going to be eight degrees here.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I'm like y'all ain't going to close this door, ain't
nobody going to be thinkingabout this stuff?
You know what I'm saying, like,and we be sitting up here just
complaining, complaining,complaining, when you have
people like Nehemiah and you gotpeople like Dr Martin Luther
King that say you know what myheart burns for this?
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You know what I'm saying, andso we have to keep in mind that.
You know Dr Martin Luther King.
He once said faith is takingthe first step even when you
don't see the whole staircase.
Oh my God, oh my goodness.
And so we know that right there, that whole statement and what
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we've been talking about isfaith, right.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
It takes faith to do all of what Dr Martin Luther
King Jr did.
It takes faith to do all ofwhat Dr Martin Luther King Jr
did.
It takes faith to do all ofwhat Nehemiah did.
It takes faith to do everythingthat we have talked about thus
far.
It takes faith, you know, andso you know, when you think
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about that taking that firststep, when you don't see the
whole staircase, oh my goodness,that is a that's such a
powerful statement.
You know I'm saying when umbecause a lot of people.
You know they don't see.
They want to know the whole,how it's gonna end.
You know where it's gonna start, what, what's gonna happen, who
gonna be there?
You know how, when people call,when you're going over to
somebody's house, you're likewho all over there?
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I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
I think that's the craziest thing.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Sometimes we like that, even when it comes to
working a job, if you don't knowexactly how much you're gonna
get paid and when you're gonnaget paid, you'd be kind of
scared like uh, oh, my goodness,right, you know, I don't even
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want to take this leap and notknow, not know the known right,
oh man, so anyways, anyways, we,I wanted to make sure we
highlighted what dr marthaluther king jr did on tonight.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Um, I didn't want to hold too long because I knew
that we, you know, since, sinceour technical stuff got a little
difficult, we, you know, Ididn't want to hold too long.
So, but I think, I really thinkthat this is something that we
need to keep in mind.
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You know, dr Martin Luther KingJr was very important in our
lives when it comes to ourfreedom, right, and you know,
and the only reason not the onlyreason, but the correlation
with Nehemiah he was veryimportant to the wall in
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Jerusalem, right, because itmade history, the wall in
Jerusalem, right, because itmade history.
And so we need to keep in mindthat, whatever God has called us
, we can link up with otherpeople so we can accomplish
God's visions, god-drivenvisions, god-driven missions.
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God give us all this.
So we have to make sure that weare driven missions.
God give us all this.
So we have to make sure that weare not holding back because we
don't want a partnership withsomeone, or not holding back
because we don't want to shareour vision with someone, and not
hold it back because we don'twant to rely on nobody else.
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We often all the time think thatwe can do it, I can do it
myself, you know what I'm sayingand then yourself messed up
everything.
Like Darlene said, drop theball.
So, ella Harper, if you haveanything else left to say and
you could go ahead on and prayus out, we're going to get up
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out of here tonight.
Yes, I really, I really hopethat we, you know, just don't
hold back that.
This is a whole kind of likesystem that God built, where
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each, each other's assistance isrequired, like it's set up that
way.
It really, really, really isset up that way, not only for it
to get accomplished, yes, butalso for our own souls, because
he doesn't want us to think thatwe did anything by ourselves.
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So to stay like Jesus, to stayin a humble place, to be like
him, working together, keeps usI'm not going to say equal, but
you know, in relationship, inpartnership, knowing that it,
you know you couldn't havegotten anywhere by yourself, and
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I think that does something toour psyche.
I think that helps us fromgetting a big head, you know,
without even realizing it.
So it, he already built it inthere for us to be maintained,
like his character within us tobe maintained.
So it's it's.
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It's just needed all around.
It's need all around because wedidn't even get into, you know
how, like, when we're pulling onother people, like you said,
their gifts, their talents,right, they have an opportunity
to shine, they have anopportunity to blossom, they
have an opportunity to pour outas well.
Their part is just as important, you know, and it sets them up.
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It could even be a launchingpad for their next place.
That's what I love about thekingdom of God, because it
ricochets, it ping pongs, heaccelerates us.
That secretary who helped himwrite his speech, or whoever the
person was, they probably wenton to do bigger and greater
things, you know what I mean wecontinue on from there and go on
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to help even other people, andeven in their process.
So there's a there's a level ofmultiplication that takes place
even in this unity, with usworking together.
So that's our prayer, amen.
So, father God, we thank youtonight, lord God, for your word
, your truth, night, lord God,for your word, your truth and,
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most of all, your examples, lordGod, tonight, that helps us to
stay in faith, to stay in thefaith, to stay believing and to
stay trusting in the way thatyou have set things in order.
I pray, god, that we be peoplewho believe in you, believe in
the things that you have put inour heart, believe that they can
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be accomplished, believe in thethings that you have put in our
heart, believe that they can beaccomplished, but knowing they
can't be accomplished withoutbeing interdependent, without us
relying on each other and, mostof all, partnering with you.
So I pray that your people,lord God, your creation, your
children, father, that we firstconnect with you, that we
receive our salvation, god, thatwe call on you, that we receive
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what we need from you, lord,and be empowered and we have
vision to be able to delegate,to go out, to connect with
others, knowing that you areJehovah, jireh and you will
provide.
So I praise you, God, for thisopportunity to chit chat about
your goodness, lord God, and Ipray that we continue to share
that goodness with others.
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In Jesus name, we pray, amen,amen, amen, oh, amen.
I'm so excited that we wereable to get on here and and
share that.
Um, like you said, elder Harper, and we know that this will not
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take place if you do not giveyour life to Christ.
You have to go and start there.
This is where you have to startand you have to give your life
to Christ and all you have to dois act.
A-c-t-s.
You can acknowledge that youare a sinner, you can confess
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with your mouth and believe inyour heart that Jesus Christ, he
died and he rose on the cross,and you can turn from your ways,
your evil ways they may not beas evil to you, but they're not
pleasing to him and you can seekafter a Bible based church, a
church that is teaching the wordof God and not changing the
word of God.
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And so we thank you.
Thank you again.
Thank you, elder Harper, forbeing on here.
Thank you, hillary for being onhere.
We know that let me tell y'all.
We know that God is real.
He has brought us to this point.
We know that he is going totake us higher to higher.
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Make sure you are going to thewebsite.
You are going to the website.
Don't forget to get your book.
Grab your book why Not Me?
And you could go towwwcuteforchristcom or you could
go to amazoncom.
So I'm so excited.
Thank you, hillary.
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Thank you hillary, thank youelder harper and um.
So, anyways, anyways, y'alljust stay cute for Christ.
All right, bye y'all.
Then I look up and I just thank God Lest as I can be
there, for I'm gonna lift yourname high.
We just kickin' it and havin'that conversation Cute for
Christ.
Every home so often I look upand I just thank God Lest as I
can be there, for I'm gonna liftyour name high.
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We just kickin' it and havin'that conversation.
Cute for Christ, we'll seeright back.
Thank you.
Every home so often I look upand I just thank God.
Bestest I can be.
Therefore, I'm gonna lift yourname high.
We just kicking it and livingout the conversation, you'd fall
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and cry.
Holy spirit reign, holy spiritrule.
Do what you wanna do what youwanna do.
Move how you gonna move, howyou gonna move.
Use who you gonna use, who yougonna use.
I'm so very grateful for theopportunity to build community
and truly be examples to theyouth.
It's a new day with a new way.
Do what you say.
Okay, I will obey praise to thefather for options to blossom
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my god's, to declare that my godis the dopest.
Salute, respect to the bloomingof god and kiana, my girl.
She give hope to the hopeless.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You could be going through something because hey
everyone, this is kiana, yourcreator and your host of q for
christ.
And look, you know, using thisdude, this new technology ain't
always the greatest when youain't used it in a long time.
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So y'all, pray, pray mystrength, hallelujah, thank you
jesus.
So, anyways, anyways, we arehere with the books of the bible
and I am so excited about umtoday.
Um, how are y'all doing today?
Look, let me tell y, tell y'allhow the enemy want to come in.
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He want to come in because hedone got where the Harvard video
ain't working.
Let me tell y'all that ain'tnothing to deal with y'all.
So, anyways, how are you doingtoday, hillary?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I am doing wonderfully, blessed and highly
favored.
I am so glad to be here ontoday to be able to share with
all of you on today.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yes, I'm telling y'all, it's gonna be a good,
good day.
I'm so excited about what Godhas given us.
Anyways, thank you for being onhere and your time.
How are you, elder Harper?
We can't see her Beautiful faceit's alright Doing pretty good.
Glad to be on here with y'all,glad to be in the number.
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I'm telling you God is soamazing and he's so good, but
you know what he has won again.
That song has been in my spirit, um, it just dropped in my
spirit a second ago, so, um,anyways, anyways, as y'all know,
this is the books of the bible.
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We are up here, um, with thebooks of the bible I'm so
excited about today.
First, I want to say happy mlkey mlk day, happy martin king
day, and, and so tonight we aregoing to continue to talk about
what god has given us, aboutfaith, but we're gonna add a
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little twist to it.
So I'm so excited about it.
It's going to be like a tributeto Dr Martin King, on top of
talking about interdependenceand all that stuff.
So I'm so excited.
So, before I go any further, Iam going to go right on in with
prayer, because we want to moveswiftly, since we had technical
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difficulties and so.
So I want to be you know, beswift with everything today.
So, anyways, I'm going to say aquick prayer, then we'll move
forward, okay, so, dear heavenlyfather, we come to you, god.
We say thank you.
We say thank you for everythingthat you have done, god.
We thank you for even bringingus to this day, god, january the
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20th.
God, we thank you now for 20days into this year where we'll
be able to.
We have done so much in these20 days, god, and we thank you
now because we know that you'regoing to take us further, god,
and so we just love you, god,for what you're doing.
God, we just thank you now forthe houses that are represented
on tonight.
God, go with them and go withtheir family, touch them from
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the crown of their head to thesole of their feet, god.
God, we just thank you now foranybody that is on here, god,
that is looking and searching tobe able to know about the books
of the Bible.
God, we just thank you nowbecause we want to be able to be
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a vessel for you and give themwhat you have given us, god, and
so we thank you now for whatyou're doing, god, we thank you
now for anybody that is on here,god, we ask you to hide us
behind the cross.
Allow them to see you, god, andso we thank you for what you're
doing.
We love you, we honor you, wecherish you.
It's in Jesus name that I pray.
So, hey, y'all Look.
Amen, I need to chill out.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I need to chill out.
Hey, good evening.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yes, I love that.
I love that.
Yes, so I'm so excited becausewe are using a new app today,
which is something that you knowhelp us be able to get the
message across, not just oneplatform, but a couple platforms
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at the same time.
So we are talking with peoplefrom YouTube and a lot of people
from the Q for Christ pages andstuff like that, so I'm super
excited about that.
So, anyways, like I said, wewant to jump right on into it.
And so, since it is, we arecelebrating Martin Luther King
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on today because, of course, weknow his birthday was January
15th, but we are celebrating himon today I wanted to kind of
bring what he did and into ourmessage on today, and I'm so
excited because, if you know him, you have been following us.
We have been talking aboutfaith and and of course, the F
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is for faithful we want to befaithful, we want to be faithful
to God, to the calling, what hehas called us to, and then we
want to be available to God'swill, whatever he has called us.
We got to make sure that we say, yes, here I am Lord, yes, and
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then we are to have been talkingabout the interdependence and
then, um, we got the teacherbook coming up next, and then
hunger.
So today we are talking abouthow Martin, how, how Dr Martin
Luther King, with you know hisand how he had to the
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interdependence, and so how allof us had to work together, all
everybody during that time hadto collaborate and go into
partnership in order for him tobe able to do what he had dream
right, for his dream to comeabout.
And so, um, I'm so superexcited about this because it,
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you know, we know that, that youknow the I have a dream speech
was one of the most iconicspeeches that in history, and
especially for us and those thatum there marching, I know my
mom, you know she used to makeus go to all the marches because
she was a part of the marchesback then, and not to say she,
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oh, look y'all, I know y'allthinking, no, I don't think that
.
So, when you think about theinterdependence and how Dr
Martin Luther King had to relyon others, what comes to mind
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when you think about that?
Either L Harper or Hillary.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Well, I mean, it was a lot of people back then.
I know Martin Luther King, hecould not have done all of that
by himself, right, a lot ofpeople coming together, working
together to get it done, and Ithink you know everybody's name
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wasn't mentioned, of course,because it was a lot of people
that was behind the scene.
And we're still, even today,finding out who was there and
who did this and who did that,and you know it took a lot of
work from everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Hey, yes, yes, it did , and um and so, uh, elder
harper, what do you think aboutit?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I know, I wish you could get her video on it anyway
, what you think about it no,yeah, I agree totally with
hillary.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I think, um, that's, that's a big deal, that you know
, it was a great big project, agreat big vision.
It was huge, and nobody can dosomething like that by
themselves.
And I've heard it often saidthat, um, if the thing that we
think that we can do, the visionthat we have, if it seems like
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we can do it ourselves, that isnot from the Lord.
So he really depended on plentyof people to accomplish what he
wanted to do Exactly.
And so, yeah, I mean, we haveto know that you know our vision
.
Yes, god, give us the vision,but we have to have a circle, we
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have to have some people thatcould help us accomplish these
goals.
And so one of the correlationthat in the Bible that God put
to kind of today, you know, kindof, you know, show the
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similarity of what happenedbetween Nehemiah had to, he
wanted, he had a burning to goback and help build the wall for
his people, and, and so we I'ma read Nehemiah 2 and 17 to 17
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through 18.
I'm trying to get you up tospeed because, is you know, and
I'm going to try to get you upto speed because it's you know,
and I'm going to try to go fast,but you know, nehemiah, he was
working for a big king and youknow he was the cup bearer,
where you know that was a veryextreme job, where he tasted the
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wine before the king drunk itto make sure it wasn't any
poison.
But his, you know, his brothercame and his brother told him
how it, you know, their countrywas being burnt and and how it
was the sadness that came on hisheart and so he wanted to go
back and build a wall, and sothe verses that I read to y'all
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he had to really have thecourage to be able to ask could
he go back?
You know what I'm saying.
But he had found favor in theLord and he asked God to.
You know, please help him findfavor in the king's heart.
And so, right here, where, whereI'm gonna read to you, is
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nehemiah 2, 17 through 18, and Idon't want to, I can't go back
and read too much because I knowwe, for the sake of time, but I
plead with you all, I and I dothis every week Please go and,
you know, read the whole, thewhole chapter, and don't just
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read that one chapter.
Go back and read so you can getsome context and be able to.
You know, I can give you alittle bit and get you up to
speed.
I can't, you know, I won't beable to sit here the whole time.
You up to speed.
I can't, you know, I won't beable to sit here the whole time.
So so anyways, verse two, 17through 18, it said then I said
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to them you see the badsituation that we are in, how
Jerusalem is desolate and liesin ruins and its gates have been
burned with fire.
Come and let us rebuild thewall of Jerusalem so that we
would no longer be a disgrace.
And his brother was coming andasking him this.
So in verse 18, it said then Itold them how the hand of my God
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had been favorable to me andalso about the words been
favorable to me, and also aboutthe words that the king had
spoken to me.
And they said let us rise upand build.
So they thoroughly supportedthe good work.
So at this point he had alreadyfound favor with the king and
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they told him they gave himeverything.
Now found favor with the kingand they told they gave him
everything.
Now, when you think about that,darlene, you know how sometimes
we'd be so scared to even askpeople for stuff when we got to
burn it in our heart for certainthings.
How, you know, when you look atthis and you think about what Dr
Martin Luther King had to gothrough when he thought about it
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like, ok God, you called me forthis, and you know when he had
to, like, go ask, how do youthink he felt in that moment
when they had to say, oh, I gotto go ask somebody to help.
You know, I'm thinking, maybe,that what you mentioned
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regarding the passion, thatburning in the heart, there's
something about a dream, there'ssomething about a vision that
really pushes, that reallydrives, yes, and it there's an
unction to function on theinside of us.
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So there it, there has to besome mobility and that picks up
the momentum.
And I believe that he was ableto ride the wave of the momentum
that was created.
And it's not to say that youknow he probably didn't have
hiccups or challenges, you know,along the way, but you know he
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probably was realized.
This was a selfless mission, youknow and it just kind of had to
be done, and that to me, I mean, you're not thinking about
yourself so much, you know,right?
So, though he may have probablyhad some apprehensions, I don't
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think it probably bothered himtoo too much, right?
Because you know, like you said, when you you know, especially
when you have found favor withGod and and it's sometimes you
know we have to we have to knowthat it's a God given mission,
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right?
So when you got a God givenmission, it don't matter, like
it's, yeah, it's it's difficultto open your mouth.
When you know that you got Godbacking, it gets a little bit
easier, right?
And so you know.
So the first point that I wantto talk about is the shared
vision.
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That requires partnership.
We know that Dr Martin LutherKing, the civil rights movement,
was not a one-man mission,right, you know, dr King, he
partnered with organizationslike Southern Christian
Leadership Conference, otherleaders like Ralph Abernathy and
Bayer Rustin and a lot ofpeople that, like you said,
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hillary, a lot of people wasn'tnamed.
It was a lot of activists.
That wasn't named.
It was a lot of people thatmarched and protested and prayed
for this change.
You know, and just like howNehemiah, you know he had to get
a lot of people.
You know the king had to writea letter to allow him to be able
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to go past and allow a letterfor him to get the material to
help build the wall and stufflike that.
And so when you think about thatword partnership and see a lot
of people don't want to humblethemselves enough to have to be
in partnership with people.
But when you think about doinggreat things and how it requires
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that partnership, you know,like for me, you know, I know,
like the scripture says inEcclesiastes 4 and 9, two are
better than one.
So you know, when I think aboutthis, and so I'm looking at you
, hillary, because you like, yougot something to say.
You like, you got something tosay when you think about that
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word partnership, how heavy orstrong that word relies to you.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Well, it all is determined on who you're
partnered with, right?
You know, if you have anawesome partner that is doing
things and all hands on, I don'tmind being partnered with you.
But if you have somebody that'sgoing to let you do all the
work and they take all thecredit, then that partnership is
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not a great partnership.
So it all depends on who youpartnered with.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, right, it all depends on who you partnered
with.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
You know Right.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
If you partnered with God, then yeah, Girl, I was
thinking.
You know, a net partnershipmade me think about a marriage.
You know what?
I'm saying Like everybody, haveto do their part.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, everybody have to do their part.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And everybody have to have that shared vision.
And when it comes to that, youknow we have to make sure that
we are, you know, to achieve thevision I feel like you got to
make it plain right.
Yeah, you got to be on the samepage, because if you get
somebody who is seem likethey're on the enemy team it's
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like Lord Darlene, what do yougot to say about that little
shit?
Look.
I went Lord Jesus about thatlittle shit.
Look, I went, lord Jesus.
What you got to say about that,elder Harper?
No, I don't have anything, Idon't.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You just got to make sure you got the right partner,
honey.
You got to make sure you gotthe right partner, man.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And Harper, what you got to say about that.
Like you know, I'm trying tocome back for that.
I'm stumped back for thatbecause, hillary, I'm stumped, I
don't have it.
Lord, have mercy.
But you know, like you say, youhave to make sure that they're
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not.
They're leaning on the Lord'sside, leaning on the Lord's side
?
Where do you stand?
Who's on the lord's side?
That that is so true because,um, you know.
But you know, elder harvard,have there been any visions that
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god has given you that you justhad to, like, lay down and
humble yourself in partnershipwith and say you know what, I'm
gonna do this with somebody,with you.
Um, I think it was the oppositefor me because, um, it's been
more of he's wanting me to dothings myself.
I think I've been more quickerto look and reach for help and
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want assistance and things likethat.
So I'm kind of on the other endof the spectrum with that.
But partnering overall ingeneral is still good, and the
partnering that I do have toendure is the pushing, is the
pushing when I don't want to bepushed.
So that's still a form ofpartnering, because there may be
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times where it does get hard orchallenging, or we don't want
to go or move or it's not theflow that we are looking for,
but that help is there andDarlene, you got something there
, because a lot of the moviesthat I've seen with Martin
Luther King, he had to be pushed.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
He had to be pushed to do a lot of stuff.
Sometimes you have to be pushedA lot of people are pushed into
their greatness.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It does go both ways.
You know I'm saying you, I mean, but you know that and at in
the end, even if you are goingto be pushed, they, you know
that it's a god, god givenmission and it's like, okay,
well, I'm a, you know, I'm gonnapush you.
I'm gonna push you because Ineed you.
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You know what I'm saying.
Some people don't add value toit.
So if they're not going to addvalue to it, then you ain't got
to push them, you got to worryabout them.
Look, I don't need you anyway.
You know what I'm saying, so Ishouldn't have to push you.
But when you know that God hassent you to this person or
whatever, then that's when youhave to say, ok, I need you, you
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need me, let's, let's get thistogether.
And you know, I see a pictureand I wish I had, or I could
have, could have displayed it,but one of my, one of my um,
they may have put it up and itwas a picture of fish that um
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they were, they were all alltogether.
It was like fish that made onebig fish to kill the shark.
And it was like, oh my God, itwas so powerful.
Because if we all can cometogether like that, we can all
get the mission accomplished,which is to go against the enemy
right, you know what I'm saying.
And so that was so powerful initself I was like, wow, that's
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such a powerful thing, so, butanyways, moving on to the next
one is the overcoming thechallenges through the
collaboration.
And I think that what we wastalking about that's one of the
challenges is when you got topush somebody and like, for me,
that's one of the challengesLike God, you know this person,
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I got to pull a teeth.
I ain't you know.
Like my God, ain't no dentist,you know what I'm saying.
Like I got to pull a teeth, youknow.
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So we know that even with DrMartin Luther King, the civil
rights movement, he faced a lotof oppositions, including
threats, violence and systematicinjustice.
So we know that Dr King reliedon the strength of the
collective to persevere, topersevere.
And then Nehemiah rebuildingthe wall of Jerusalem.
He was not without oppositioneither.
He had enemies that he had todeal with, like Sambalat and
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Tobiah.
They mocked and tried todiscourage the workers.
And so we know that even whenyou do have the partnership, you
have to know that you are goingto face those challenges, those
different types of challenges.
Right, we know that it's goingto come, we don't have to worry
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about it.
We know one thing that's goingto happen for sure is we're
gonna get those oppositions.
So when you, um think aboutthat word, and uh, and, and even
some of the challenges thathappened, um, with dr martha
luther king, um, especially likethe violence that went along
with it, um, how do you thinkthat he felt when he had to deal
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with that?
You, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I can imagine him not feeling good at all.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
He was like God you know why?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Why me Right?
Why do I have to do it?
You know they did a lot backthen and I thank God that you
know for them, because if it wasme, I was, I think they were
built different back then.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, they were built different Like for real Like
you know, and even though I meangirl, just looking at Nehemiah
and how he handled his, heprayed and organized the people
to defend themselves whilecontinuing to work.
You know what I'm saying.
That's almost like Dr MartinLuther King.
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Dr Martin Luther King alwayswanted to result with no
violence.
Right, right, you know.
And yes, you know, like yousaid, I mean I'm sorry.
I mean because you are what youwere saying.
I'm sorry.
Oh, oh, no, I was saying, oh,mama says he had to rely on God.
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Yes, he really did, because Imean violence is violence.
You know that those hardshipswere awful and, like Hillary
said, I really can't imagine,because I think they probably
really lived at a high level ofstress because you know they
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were concerned about their lives, you know for a lot of this
stuff.
You know it was always veryrisky.
It shouldn't have been.
And yeah, I believe, like shesaid, you did have to rely on
God for strength to continue.
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It probably was a lot and Ithink that that's why people who
are called, who are chosen,they're given the grace to be
able to go through those things.
Right, right, and like theBible says in Nehemiah 4.14,.
It says don't be afraid of them.
Says in Nehemiah 4, 14, it saysdon't be afraid of them.
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Remember the Lord, who is greatand awesome, and fight for your
families, your sons and yourdaughters, your wives and your
home.
So when you know that rightthere in itself, like, like you
know, like my mom just said, youhave to rely on God, you know,
even in those things, those arethe things that we have to do is
know that God has our back,regardless of any situation that
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comes, any obstacle that come.
You know our God is greater,greater is he in me than he is
in the world.
So we have to know that wedon't have to.
That is one way that we canhelp others overcome those
challenges.
You know, and make sure that wealways, always speak of how God
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is, is with us.
You know what I'm saying andespecially, you know when we
know that it's a God givenmission.
Right and especially you know,when we know that it's a God
given mission.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Right, oh yeah, you can't mess with me when I know
that it's God.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I know that God sent me.
You know what I'm saying, likeyou know.
So, anyways, the next one istrusting God and relying on
other strength.
You know Dr Martin Luther KingJr.
He relied on prayer and hisunwavering faith in God.
That was his foundational andleadership and his foundation of
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leadership.
So he also trusted in the giftsof others to make the movement
successful, like speech writersand the community leaders, and
played key roles, and so, andwith Nehemiah, he trusted God.
Throughout the building processhe had the interest with all
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the people that was going tohelp, the talents and the
strength of others and stufflike that.
So when you think about that andwe talking about
interdependence, right, and so,like the Bible says in 1
Corinthians, 12 and 12, just asa body, though one has many
parts, but all has many parts,form one body, so it is with
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Christ.
So when you think about that,the interdependence and how this
right here shows that we had torely on others, they had to
rely on other strength, whatcomes to mind when you think
about that?
I mean, because I know, like Isaid, we've been talking about
interdependence, but when youthink about a God-given mission
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like this, like Dr Martin LutherKing and like how Nehemiah,
what y'all think about that, Ithink that it's a person would
have to move with total andcomplete faith because, looking
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forward at what you're supposedto be doing, you're going.
What the lord put on your heart, um, you literally are now, I'm
not gonna say waiting forthings to fall in your lap, but
you definitely have to bestepping forward and reaching
out at the same time, you knowit's like you just automatically
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know the Lord is about toprovide Right, because how else
you know literally how else sois is that that faith is
reaching.
And so if he was praying, thenhe has had already obtained
those things through prayer andhis actions was really just
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following through with what hebelieved he had already received
.
So those connections that he hadto have with various people,
like you said, in the communitywho helped him with various
tasks and everything had to belike like strategic people in
certain locations, all of thosethings are very, very like I
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have to be God led, you know,something so large, like at the
magnitude that he was able toaccomplish, I mean that really
this really could be, um, anexample of a move of God, like
of you know, the power of theLord, the Lord coming through
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for what you know, accomplishingwhat he wants to get done Right
.
And I use people like him forexamples regarding faith and
things like that all the time,because I just believe that when
he chooses people to advancethe kingdom and advance society,
he is taking I'm not going tosay taking over, but he is
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orchestrating things Like yousaid behind the scenes, you see.
So when we see manifestation onthe outside of all this great
action and all of these thingstaking place, we have to know
that it wasn't, you know, peopleby themselves just coming up
with ideas, doing stuff.
You know, for that level ofcohesion and community and
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things like that, it just theLord has to be in it, right and
and, like you said, especiallythe the um faith that he had to
exhibit.
Like can you imagine the faiththat you had to exhibit,
especially when you were?
You know, um, and and I'msaying you know Dr Martin Luther
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King, but even Nehemiah, and Ican even go back to you know how
moses had to depend on certainpeople you know what I'm saying
like you know that faith umespecially to accomplish things
as this big of a magnitude rightyou
know, um, just like with, andthe only reason why I was
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thinking about moses, I wasthinking about how you know the
people, the children of Israelwas praying for a savior, and I
know that even during the civilrights, a lot of people was
praying for a savior.
You know what I'm saying.
Like was praying for a way out,praying for a different, a
change of things, and, and whenGod you know we would they were
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praying about it and God put iton his heart, you know, and for
him to, you know, have had tohave that unwavering faith and
say, okay, you know what, I'mgoing to do something about this
.
You know what I'm saying.
And I need it.
Like Hillary said earlier, allhands on deck, like I need, I
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need everybody, that that isgonna help.
It might not be, it might notlook good on the other side, but
we're gonna make it right andso, um, you know, I think that
that that is that is very huge.
You know, I'm saying like to,especially to complete a vision
that big and that huge.
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So, when you think about thevision that God has given us,
you know what I'm saying.
Like we have a little smallvision.
You know what I'm saying?
Wow.
You know, we be having visionlike writing a book.
You know what be having likevision like writing a book, you
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know saying like oh, I justgotta write a book you know what
I'm saying, or not just saying,you know, god, give us, give
some people little vision.
They be scared to even, you know, partnership with others and
and these and people like drmargaret king had to get, you
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know, do something so huge andso great.
I could just imagine all thethings that he had to deal with,
you know I don't even think heimagined like he even saw the
change that was coming.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
He just knew he had to do something.
Their bats were against thewall.
Like I said, I can't imaginebeing born in that time.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I could just imagine Literally I mean you know like I
said and Mama could attest toit, I know she marched once,
once or twice, I think it was.
I can imagine having to justmarch for my freedom.
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You know what I'm saying.
When we got all this freedom todo whatever, you know what I'm
saying and we take it forgranted, we don't want to
partner with nobody.
We don't want to share nothingwith nobody.
We don't even want to sharewhat the Lord done, did for us.
A lot of people don't even wantto tell the goodness of Jesus.
They be scared.
You know what I'm saying, andit is not that they don't want
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to.
Some people they are scaredbecause people think you
boasting and bragging or whatnot.
You know what I'm saying.
And sometimes we have torecognize that God places people
in our life for a reason.
You know we got to learn how tolean on other people.
We got to learn on, you know,like, be willing to take their
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gifts or help them, you know.
And so we got to be as people.
We got to be united for the Godgiven vision, you know.
You know.
So I mean like, when you thinkabout that darling, like what I
said about how people don't wantto, even want to do the small
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thing.
They only want to do the smallchallenges.
All right, yeah, because Idon't know the world we live in.
Like I said they were builtdifferent and we just be on some
other stuff too.
It's like, why is it so hardfor us to just like be happy for
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each other to um, to do, um,like to, to not be jealous or to
or to, you know, encourage?
And I think some groups got itgoing good, but some it's like
it's still a challenge and so,and on the other aspect of what
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we're talking about, yeah, histask was so great and there are
small things.
Oh my gosh, now I feel like wetalk about me again, because I
mean the simplest stuff that hasto get done you know, the
smallest thing.
It's, like mine, monumental,like it's just so big and it's I
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can't imagine all the stuffthat he had to actually not let
the ball drop on him.
You know what I mean.
Like what if he was like eh, I'mnot going to do it today, or
you know, right, I'm going towait for so-and-so to get back
with me, girl, and we be, so,like you said, we be ready to
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just cancel it.
Well, it is a little slow, butwe be ready to just cancel it.
Well, it is a little snow, butwe be ready to cancel it.
It's just a little snow.
And we be like uh-uh, I ain'tspending the go-ahead.
You want me to march?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Uh-uh, my daughter came to me and she was like can
I stay at home tomorrow?
It's going to be cold, right?
No?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
And they had to march in cold weather.
We be ready to shut it down.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Shut everything down.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
I don't even want to go to work tomorrow.
It's supposed to be 12 degreesand feel like six degrees and
I'm like, look at it.
It's supposed to be 12 degreesand feel like six degrees and
I'm like, look at it.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
It's going to be eight degrees here.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I'm like y'all ain't going to close this door, ain't
nobody going to be thinkingabout this stuff?
You know what I'm saying, like,and we be sitting up here just
complaining, complaining,complaining, when you have
people like Nehemiah and you gotpeople like Dr Martin Luther
King that say you know what myheart burns for this?
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You know what I'm saying, andso we have to keep in mind that.
You know Dr Martin Luther King.
He once said faith is takingthe first step even when you
don't see the whole staircase.
Oh my God, oh my goodness.
And so we know that right there, that whole statement and what
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we've been talking about isfaith, right.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
It takes faith to do all of what Dr Martin Luther
King Jr did.
It takes faith to do all ofwhat Dr Martin Luther King Jr
did.
It takes faith to do all ofwhat Nehemiah did.
It takes faith to do everythingthat we have talked about thus
far.
It takes faith, you know, andso you know, when you think
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about that taking that firststep, when you don't see the
whole staircase, oh my goodness,that is a that's such a
powerful statement.
You know I'm saying when umbecause a lot of people.
You know they don't see.
They want to know the whole,how it's gonna end.
You know where it's gonna start, what, what's gonna happen, who
gonna be there?
You know how, when people call,when you're going over to
somebody's house, you're likewho all over there?
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I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
I think that's the craziest thing.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Sometimes we like that, even when it comes to
working a job, if you don't knowexactly how much you're gonna
get paid and when you're gonnaget paid, you'd be kind of
scared like uh, oh, my goodness,right, you know, I don't even
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want to take this leap and notknow, not know the known right,
oh man, so anyways, anyways, we,I wanted to make sure we
highlighted what dr marthaluther king jr did on tonight.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Um, I didn't want to hold too long because I knew
that we, you know, since, sinceour technical stuff got a little
difficult, we, you know, Ididn't want to hold too long.
So, but I think, I really thinkthat this is something that we
need to keep in mind.
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You know, dr Martin Luther KingJr was very important in our
lives when it comes to ourfreedom, right, and you know,
and the only reason not the onlyreason, but the correlation
with Nehemiah he was veryimportant to the wall in
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Jerusalem, right, because itmade history, the wall in
Jerusalem, right, because itmade history.
And so we need to keep in mindthat, whatever God has called us
, we can link up with otherpeople so we can accomplish
God's visions, god-drivenvisions, god-driven missions.
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God give us all this.
So we have to make sure that weare driven missions.
God give us all this.
So we have to make sure that weare not holding back because we
don't want a partnership withsomeone, or not holding back
because we don't want to shareour vision with someone, and not
hold it back because we don'twant to rely on nobody else.
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We often all the time think thatwe can do it, I can do it
myself, you know what I'm sayingand then yourself messed up
everything.
Like Darlene said, drop theball.
So, ella Harper, if you haveanything else left to say and
you could go ahead on and prayus out, we're going to get up
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out of here tonight.
Yes, I really, I really hopethat we, you know, just don't
hold back that.
This is a whole kind of likesystem that God built, where
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each, each other's assistance isrequired, like it's set up that
way.
It really, really, really isset up that way, not only for it
to get accomplished, yes, butalso for our own souls, because
he doesn't want us to think thatwe did anything by ourselves.
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So to stay like Jesus, to stayin a humble place, to be like
him, working together, keeps usI'm not going to say equal, but
you know, in relationship, inpartnership, knowing that it,
you know you couldn't havegotten anywhere by yourself, and
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I think that does something toour psyche.
I think that helps us fromgetting a big head, you know,
without even realizing it.
So it, he already built it inthere for us to be maintained,
like his character within us tobe maintained.
So it's it's.
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It's just needed all around.
It's need all around because wedidn't even get into, you know
how, like, when we're pulling onother people, like you said,
their gifts, their talents,right, they have an opportunity
to shine, they have anopportunity to blossom, they
have an opportunity to pour outas well.
Their part is just as important, you know, and it sets them up.
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It could even be a launchingpad for their next place.
That's what I love about thekingdom of God, because it
ricochets, it ping pongs, heaccelerates us.
That secretary who helped himwrite his speech, or whoever the
person was, they probably wenton to do bigger and greater
things, you know what I mean wecontinue on from there and go on
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to help even other people, andeven in their process.
So there's a there's a level ofmultiplication that takes place
even in this unity, with usworking together.
So that's our prayer, amen.
So, father God, we thank youtonight, lord God, for your word
, your truth, night, lord God,for your word, your truth and,
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most of all, your examples, lordGod, tonight, that helps us to
stay in faith, to stay in thefaith, to stay believing and to
stay trusting in the way thatyou have set things in order.
I pray, god, that we be peoplewho believe in you, believe in
the things that you have put inour heart, believe that they can
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be accomplished, believe in thethings that you have put in our
heart, believe that they can beaccomplished, but knowing they
can't be accomplished withoutbeing interdependent, without us
relying on each other and, mostof all, partnering with you.
So I pray that your people,lord God, your creation, your
children, father, that we firstconnect with you, that we
receive our salvation, god, thatwe call on you, that we receive
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what we need from you, lord,and be empowered and we have
vision to be able to delegate,to go out, to connect with
others, knowing that you areJehovah, jireh and you will
provide.
So I praise you, God, for thisopportunity to chit chat about
your goodness, lord God, and Ipray that we continue to share
that goodness with others.
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In Jesus name, we pray, amen,amen, amen, oh, amen.
I'm so excited that we wereable to get on here and and
share that.
Um, like you said, elder Harper, and we know that this will not
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take place if you do not giveyour life to Christ.
You have to go and start there.
This is where you have to startand you have to give your life
to Christ and all you have to dois act.
A-c-t-s.
You can acknowledge that youare a sinner, you can confess
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with your mouth and believe inyour heart that Jesus Christ, he
died and he rose on the cross,and you can turn from your ways,
your evil ways they may not beas evil to you, but they're not
pleasing to him and you can seekafter a Bible based church, a
church that is teaching the wordof God and not changing the
word of God.
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And so we thank you.
Thank you again.
Thank you, elder Harper, forbeing on here.
Thank you, hillary for being onhere.
We know that let me tell y'all.
We know that God is real.
He has brought us to this point.
We know that he is going totake us higher to higher.
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Make sure you are going to thewebsite.
You are going to the website.
Don't forget to get your book.
Grab your book why Not Me?
And you could go towwwcuteforchristcom or you could
go to amazoncom.
So I'm so excited.
Thank you, hillary.
(50:21):
Thank you hillary, thank youelder harper and um.
So, anyways, anyways, y'alljust stay cute for Christ.
All right, bye y'all.
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