Episode 200!!!

The legendary Gean Bean Baxter talks tattoos, sound bytes, donkey times, the future of radio, erasing moments in history, his interview style, the Too Beautiful to Live podcast, a Tea Party, and to catch a .... what?!

Episode Transcript

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So many people, holy moly. Holy.
Way too many. Why does it take as many people
to host a podcast? Oh my God, this is this is a
mob. It's like the Brady Bunch
opening, isn't it? It is.
Yeah, very much so. Yeah.
Well, everything's looking good.We're right on time or early
even. This is very professional kids,

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very professional. Enjoy the professionalism now.
I was going to say give it time.We're off the tracks in no time.
Sure. Yeah.
Hello Bean, Thank you for comingon.
My pleasure. Can I just say I don't
understand what you guys are doing with the with the show.
I don't know why it exists, has no business to exist. 200

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episodes. You know how rare it is for any
podcast to reach 50 episodes 100200I mean, you're in the top
1% of podcast ever with that many episodes.
It's I'm not even joking about that.
It's really, it's really remarkable.
I just can't believe you're interested in much less anybody
else. Although I don't know, maybe
nobody's, maybe nobody's listening.

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Maybe you guys are, I think. I think.
Well, our Twitter bio and our Instagram bio are this show
should not exist Dash Bean Baxter so.
It's very true. We take this very seriously.
That we should, and I know that I'm sure I'll say this number of
times, but it's a tremendous honor and a compliment that

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anybody even remembers the work that we did back in the day on
the radio. You know, the thing about the
thing about radio, the thing about the daily newspaper is
usually, you know, it's, it's inthe bird cage the next day.
That's an older reference only. Edwin might appreciate that.
Was going to put my screen on the bird cage.
Yeah. But what I mean is you're on
that day and generally it's never thought about or talked

(01:50):
about or heard about again. So the fact that you guys are
digging up these old tapes and keeping it alive.
And we know because we hear frompeople, new generations of
people are discovering the show thanks to your work and the work
of Kevin Stockdale at the Archive.
And it's just, it's really, it's, it's very, it's very
humbling. And I just want to thank you.
No matter what else happens today, I want to at least say

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thank you to that. Let's stop now.
Well, we love it and we love youvery kind.
Very kind. All right, Christopher, are we
ready to start the show? Yeah, I'm, I'm ready to end it
actually. That was perfect.
I don't. I don't know what else to ask.
Sorry, we're out of time. It's OK with me.
All right, here we go. That's.

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About. Me as me GVGVG Vexer inside
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is Hey Little Walter by Tony, Tony, Tony.
If you don't mind, I would beginat the beginning.
It's a new day, let's get going.123456 it's.

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A pretty sweet corner right there.
Had everything I need. Yeah, hello.
Sadly, it is. Here's the.
Thing is that who is that? Who's that for?
Sorry, sorry, hello. I'm I'm a horse and I'm on

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Viagra and when I run a race my name is Old 5 legs.
I'm now coming to the Rose Bowl.And tickets are on.
Tickets are on sale now. Three tickets now what?
Did it sound like what I thoughtI said?
Buy the T word. Can you buy those?
Did it come out like our future presentation?
Quitters never give up. Go ahead.
Repping for all of quitters never give up.

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Check off Christopher. Check off Jen Pastorini check
off Lindsay. Hello, Drew.
Aw. The great Ed Wynn, ladies and
gentlemen. I love him so much.
Because I said quitters never give up.
And he said that's. All they do, like I said, I
would listen to that podcast allday man Good stuff.
I love party people. It is quitters never give up.
They never give up. Perfect episode 200.

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All the quitters are here. We got Lindsay, we got Drew, we
got Edwin, we got Jen. And for today's show we have a
very special guest, our great white whale, the our personal
Lord and Savior 2 time all of favor, Bean Baxter.

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Yay. Thank you for that generous
introduction, Christopher. I appreciate that.
You know what's very funny? I I don't listen to the show, as
you know, but on occasion when Ido, I don't recognize any of the
clips. None of it, none of it sounds
familiar to me, including the intro you just put together.
As far as I know, that was all AI generated.

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You made a voice that sounds like mine and put those things
in my mouth because I don't recognize any of the air checks
that you ever play. It's kind of sad, really.
But it goes back to what you're saying earlier, how it was, it's
a newspaper. It was gone in your mind the
next day. Sure.
We've talked to Lightning and and Kevin and they even like

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whatever great moments we brought up, they were like, that
was fun, that was great. We got to do the next day, we
got to prep, so it was gone and in the air.
That is true, yeah. Plus I have all these memory
issues too that I've had my entire adult life as well that
you guys all know about. But yeah, it's just, it's it's
wild when you hear your own pastand it just doesn't sound

(05:35):
familiar. It's just weird.
Same thing here, to be honest. We do this podcast and we don't
remember what we done, what we do.
We have fun every week talking about the Kevin and Bean Show
and going over memories that we had, but ask us what we talked
about last week and it would be kind of gone.
Sure, yeah. So Bean, you never have

(05:55):
listened. Like anything old, you should go
to the Stockdale archive and just choose an old show just for
fun and listen to it. I think you'd enjoy.
It I'm really not that interested in what I did though
five years ago, 10 years ago, 20years ago.
I'm just, I'm not, I don't thinkabout it that much.
You know, I, I talked about thisjust very briefly on a recent
episode of the podcast that, that Ali and I do a cup of tea

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in a chat for people who don't know.
And a memory was suggested to meby our old friend Dave, the King
of Mexico, former producer of the Kevin Abean Show, about
something that had happened withOzzy Osbourne.
And on the episode where we werepaying tribute to Ozzy Osbourne,
I was paying tribute to him as afan, and it never even occurred
to me, oh, wait, I had several interactions with him over the
course of my K Rock time. I just am not in that space

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anymore. I don't try to draw from it.
I'm just not that interested. I don't think about it.
I don't have any interest in revisiting or redoing it.
It's just, it's, it's another lifetime ago and I just, does
that make any sense? Yeah, it does, absolutely.
And to me, it's kind of like this is an analogy I I thought
of the other day. It's like, you know how there

(07:02):
are some people who their entireidentity, their whole
personality is who they were in college.
They're just obsessed with theircollege years.
It was the best time of their life and they that's all they
want to talk about. Those are the friends that they
want to have. They're always wearing the
merch, right? All of that stuff to remind them
of those salad days in college. And then there are other people

(07:23):
who are like, that's I never thought about it again once I
graduated because it's not relevant to me today.
And that's kind of what K Rock is like for me is it's just,
it's so long ago now and it has no impact whatsoever on my life
with the exception of that's where I was able to meet a lot
of people that are still friendstoday and thankfully have a
bunch of listeners from the old radio show who are kind enough

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to subscribe and listen to Ali and me.
And I'm very grateful for that. And I know that it's important
to them, but I just, it's not something I think about Edwin.
So there's no reason for me really to go to the archive and
check it out again. Well, that is healthy because
you're looking forward, you're moving forward, you're not stuck
in the past. So I understand that.
Yeah. Well, I think this is the
perfect time to introduce our quiz.

(08:06):
I'm resisting the urge to jump in because I am not going to
host this thing. You guys are the hosts.
I am here as a guest to ask questions or help you give you
input whenever you need it. But I'm not going to jump in to
fill in the gaps, man. That's your job.
OK. This is my day off.
We have some audio, we have someaudio clues of things that
happened in 2014 and it's not just going to be like what did

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happen in 2014. So we've got lots of clues.
So I am going to play a couple of different drops and then give
you a few hints. And if you don't remember, then
we can steal. I think you're going to remember
who this guy is, though. Yeah, I.
Mean I've tattooed on my penis. Yeah, we know.
We're on the air now, Bean. Hey Bean, we're on the air.
Where did that? And if you don't know yet, I

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have another clue. And what?
What is the question? I have blank tattooed on my
penises. I I've like leaped out a bunch
of. These Oh, OK, gotcha, gotcha.
No, I I definitely don't know the answer to that.
OK, all right, so next clue. But in 2014, the fact that has
the number one best selling album in America, as he does

(09:08):
right now on iTunes, that's pretty remarkable for a guy
who's been doing what he's been doing as long as he has.
I mean, it's astonishing that he's still so popular, right?
It's also astonishing that I really do have Weird Al tattooed
on my penis and didn't think of that when you played the first
clip. So good, so good.
Avi. Avi so do you recall what

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milestone Weird Al hit in 2014? That was his first ever number
one album with Mandatory Fun. Wow.
And his last ever album apparently, because it seems
like he's not going to make any more.
Doesn't have to. But isn't it remarkable to see
that he is one of those performers who is literally
getting more popular every year the longer he goes from
releasing new music? The fact that he sold out

(09:51):
Madison Square Garden and sold out the Forum, he's doing all of
these unbelievable shows right now.
It's amazing. I mean, no one deserves it more.
You know, he's the greatest human that ever lived, but I'm
just so darn happy for him. I saw him in Vegas, great show.
Great show, right? What an entertainer.
How about the rest of y'all you guys all on board the Weird Al
train? You love him as much as as we

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do. Oh.
Yeah, Oh, of course. Grew up.
Yeah, he's incredible. You know I love him.
So much. They played a montage.
You just played a montage of that one album and they were all
bops. They were bops.
Yeah, he's great. You know, people sometimes will
ask me because I have the one tattoo, I was very late to the
tattoo game. I was almost 60 when I got my
first one. And people say would you ever
get another one? Because it's not not uncommon

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for people to get addicted in some small way.
If you get one, a lot of people get a second, a third.
And then when does it stop? And I always say that I, I don't
think I will, But if I did probably be weird Al, that would
probably be the next tattoo I would get.
I've got the queen on one arm, have Weird Al on the other.
I mean, that's pretty strong. That's, that's two different
kinds of royalty right there. I.
Love to hear. Absolutely.

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All right. Next question.
This is a little bit of a long clip.
Bean's world and Ralph's world rarely intersect and by rarely
mean never never. You get a circle for nerd stuff,
right Ralph? No, a circle with Ralphs world
in it and a circle with beans world in it.
Just nowhere near each other andwhose circle think is bigger
but. Ralphs sure Beans looks like a

(11:17):
dot. All right, it's not a.
Circle so much as it is a dot. But the other day they were
talking in the office and one ofthem started talking, the other
one started talking and it was weird and they were so excited.
And so I kind of tuned in. I was like, what's going on?
Mead and Ralph are agreeing on something.
It's like we found out we went to the same college and we were

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in the same fraternity. That's right.
It's strange. It's like what, you 2?
That's so odd. You 2 also were intersecting, so
I so I. I'll take it.
So I tuned in to figure out whatthey were talking about.
They were talking about their love their their overwhelming
love of. Their overwhelming love of OK.

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I don't know the answer to this,but I do know Ralph Garman was
his name right? That was the guy on the show.
It was, I believe. So, yeah, I do know that we both
shared a love for a lot of 70s television 70s.
And like The Rockford Files. I know you mentioned on the last
episode where The Rockford Fileswould have been a show that
Ralph and I would have been on the same page about, but I don't

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remember what specific thing we're talking about on this clip
you brought us, Lindsay. All right, this this answer will
surprise you. OK, they're overwhelming love of
office supply stores. Oh man.
Really, get me in a Staples or an Office Depot, I'm in heaven.
God, I mean, it's just, it's super.
Fun. That's all, it's just fun.

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I bet I've got some badass plastic coated black paper clips
now. Right, that just raw how?
Badass can a paper. Clip.
Because you get your average. BS.
Boring silver paper clips. I've got plastic.
Coated black ones. Right.
OK. Oh, come.
On. I like the red ones better.
Black rocks. Black is gangster.

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I've got gangster paper clips. There's no such thing as a
gangster paper clips too. Gangster paper clips.
I see a Kevin to be the singles party.
He's not wrong, he's not wrong. Man.
Love me some office supplies. Is it a better office supply
scene in the UK or is it about the same?

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No, we'll see. I can't speak to the rest of the
UK because I wasn't even living in London, which is if you've
been in New York City, you know,you don't have a big staples
like you would in LA where you can go in and just aisle after
aisle. So the office supplies that we
find now are much smaller specialty stores.
So I would have to give the nod to the US on that one.
Just not have any options, not have any choices for things.

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You're not going to find 20 different kinds of or colors of
paper clips here. Put me in that Venn diagram, by
the way, because when I go to a Staples, I'm like, oh, I need
that and I can organize that. So I'm with you guys.
I mean, I'd. Love to hear it do.
We have good fond memories of look a lot of times you're not
excited about back to school. Some people are but that school
back to school shopping for a new peachy folder super fun a.

(14:12):
Peachy folder. I'm into it.
All right, the next question. All of the complaints about
being typing or clicking or whatever on his computer, and
there are a lot over the years, yes, but so we're saying.
No wonder he has to type on his.15,000 of them to sift.
Through. Jesus, you're a mental case.
Being is a mental case. How dare you?

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All right. What's the question now?
So you have 15,000 of them? Uh huh.
And they're what? What possibly could you be
typing and looking for? Is it?
Is it 15,000 emails that I have in my inbox maybe?
Bean Baxter Sound. Hoarder.

(14:56):
Is the name of this feature not bad Now you have so much
nonsense. Let's be honest, you have,
there's a lot of stuff that you play sometimes where it's where
it's perfect and it's funny and it adds to the show.
Not everything you have I I don't think is maybe necessary.
Yeah, I think we can make some. Room in your in your catalog
there or perhaps? There's some new, more relevant

(15:17):
sound sound bites. All right, let me tell you
that's true. I am a sound hoarder now I have
over 50,000 sound bites and I know I've said this before but a
lot of people don't listen to our show.
They may be hearing it for yourson the first time in the amount
of time that I was off when I left K Rock in November of 2019

(15:38):
until I started the podcast withAli in October of 2020.
So that's about what, 8 months, nine months, something like
that. I collected like another 200 or
excuse me, another 1200 sound bites in that period of time,
1200 sound bites and I was a guywithout a show.
I had nothing to do. It's not like I was collecting
them because I wanted to play them on something.
I just did it because I cannot give up that habit, that hobby

(16:03):
I'm obsessed with. If I'm watching TV, It happened
today, I'm watching TV and I here's something I go, I got to
grab that and make a note. What's the show?
What's the time code? Then I'll go back later and pick
it up. I have hundreds, maybe thousands
of sound files on my machine to my right here that have never
been played, but I've got them if I need them.
And it is a hobby of mine. And I know it's a little bit of

(16:24):
a weird one. And Edwin has been kind enough
to send me some over the years from his old, old time radio
that he listens to or some of the animated shows that he
watches and stuff. And I always appreciate it, so
thank you. Yeah, I'm like you because I
mean, I have a show barely, and I'm watching something like, oh,
I got to get that. And especially if it's a tea
thing, I'm sending that to Bean.Oh, but that reminds me when I

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listen to an old show, like you'll be gone lock and suddenly
something is mentioned and then you have like 10 clips, 10 drops
about it. So would you be like typing when
they mentioned something to try to bring stuff up?
How did that work? Yeah, I think so.
I think if it was I I think in that case, I either remembered
that I had a clip that might be appropriate or I just went

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fishing to see if I had a clip that might, you know, somebody
might bring up a celebrity's name and I'll go, oh, I wonder
if I have anything on David Lynch or whoever we're talking
about. Just if I could add to the to
the storytelling. But yeah, you just type in a
keyword on the system that I have right now and it just
brings up, and sometimes I'll dothat just for fun as I'll just
type in a word, I'll type in theword goat and see how many

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things come up that have a reference to a goat.
You mean the vegetable the. Vegetable, right?
By the way, I love doing that. I love Spotify.
I know it's uncool to say that because it's a bad, evil
corporation now more than ever now that the owner of Spotify is
investing a whole bunch of moneyin AI weapons.

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So really we should all be off Spotify at this point.
But one of the fun things that Ilove to do is think of any
random word goat as the example again, type that in and see what
songs come up that have the wordGOAT in the title, and you find
yourself listening to lots of crazy music by tiny artists,
artists you've never heard of, songs you don't know.
And it's just kind of a fun music exploration way to go is

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just to to bring it up just based on a random keyword.
Well, Speaking of which, we go on to list a couple of sound
bites or drops that you might beable to get rid of in 2014.
So the next one is here's an audio clue.
I don't know how you would ever use that.
I don't either but it. It does feel, I mean you're in a

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major. Motion picture and I feel like
that's. The type of thing that we ought
to have. Audio.
Kevin in a major motion picture.Well, Kevin means rock star,
obviously that comes to mind, but I don't think they would be
questioning hanging on to that. Kevin did a voice over in a
movie called Project XI. Want to say he was one of the

(18:54):
voices on the radio? I'm just going to, if I got to
make a guess on the spot here, I'm going to say maybe I had
saved some audio of him from Project X.
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.
Very good. Does that mean that's where?
Oh, I'm stunned. It's Kevin Abeam from the world
famous K Rock. Can we please talk about this
insanity in Pasadena last night?It looked like the greatest

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party I have ever seen. Big boy goes.
On and he does it. Right.
What do you think about that? That clip from Planet XI?
Don't know what? That means or what?
What it was it was that was a the movie that we did a voice
in. We were a voice in a movie and
yes and and it was both of us, but they already projects.
I think it was called Project Jacks.
That's what it's called, yeah. Not planet.

(19:35):
Yeah, it was like there. Was a what about that house
party that got out of control and.
Hundreds of people. Showed up and Kevin was a voice
on the radio. So Bean.
And I both cut a bunch of lines and then they just use mine,
which cracks me up. Cracks me up with big boy.
Uh huh. Which?
You've always wanted before. I don't know how that'll come in
handy because I don't make any mistakes.
It's not bad, really. It's not bad.

(19:55):
Enough to be good. Very good.
I'm glad he mentioned it becauseif he didn't, I was going to.
Yes, we were both hired to both record a bunch of lines and then
they didn't use any of mine, butI still got paid, which was kind
of cool. Love to hear it.
All right, we're going to go on to a Halloween video vault.
Hit it, Steve. Now it's time for the Beans

(20:21):
Halloween Video vault. Came out in 2011 and it's a
movie for no particular reason. It's about a that comes to life
and goes on a killing spree. So the movie's called Rubber.
OK, yes, it's a tire. I know it's a tire.
I've seen this movie. I remember this movie and the

(20:42):
bit must have been that we were getting recommendations from
everybody on the show. Hey, here's an under known movie
that you should check out if you're looking for horror for
the Halloween season. Yeah, Rubber was the movie, and
it is about a killer tire that just bops on down the street and
just takes people out left and right.
I think. I think it had a little bit of a
cult following for a while, but gosh, I haven't thought about

(21:03):
that in a long time. Based on a true story.
Based you have based on a a realkiller tire.
All right, so you had a visit toSeattle and there's a couple
clues on that one. By the way, has been my most.
Frequent visitor since the last few years since I've lived here
in Seattle, he comes up about once a year.

(21:25):
Got to be the king of Mexico I would think.
Very good. So there was a debate as to
something that he might do at your house.
That I hope he, you know, understands the house rules is,
you know, know, while you're staying at my house.
And Kevin, you were surprised bythat?
I I can't imagine thinking aboutthat or, or caring about that.

(21:48):
Why are you upset about? Why would you be upset about
that? I feel like it's AI feel like
it's a violation. It's a violation in my home is
what I feel like. Like I don't.
Ever do that at somebody else's house?
It's rude. I think it's rude too.
Well, this is a long standing rule in all of my houses with
all of my guests. No sexy time when you're a
visitor in my house. That's just the rules, sorry.

(22:09):
Those are the exact words. I don't care if you're married.
I don't care if you're young andin love.
I don't care what the situation is.
You could wait till you get home.
Manners, kids, Manners do. You put a sign on the guest
door. No sexy time.
No sexy time. And on the front door, it says
no, Kevin. Right.
The bathroom door says no, Kevin.

(22:30):
How many? How many quiz questions are
there, Lindsay? We've got one more.
OK, OK, so there was a moment with that.
It won't play, but you, there was a person who has a show, a
frequent Kevin and Me personality, and you called it
To Catch a Predator when it was actually called to catch A to

(22:54):
Catch. To catch, I think you just keep
thinking of the Grace Kelly movie To Catch a Thief.
That's not it. The actual name of the show is
to catch a something, and I called it To Catch a Predator.
That's what you're saying to catch, to catch AI got AI got a
buzz out on this one. I don't know that one.
Would it help if Adam Corolla was part of it?
No. OK, it's to catch a contractor,

(23:18):
but it was very funny. I don't even.
Remember that at all. Oh, can we stop for a moment?
First Chris Kelly reference on the show.
So we got to note that. Yeah.
Oh, really? OK, last one is a kind of an
audio clue. Or Bean.
It reminds me of that gold digger song. 18 years 18.
That's all. That's all that loops in my
head. Only Kanye's song I know. 18

(23:40):
years. 18 years, still pay for his care every month but I had
not been personally to see him if.
You have too much money. Well, that's not it.
But I think this is going to be one of the great.
Love stories of all time this. Reunion of me with.
My of me with my. This has to be donkey times,
right? We got to be talking about
happy, right? The saddest day of my whole

(24:01):
life. Yes, that would still hurts.
Thanks a lot for bringing that one up, Lindsay.
Well, let's just relive that in Kanye form.
Or. Being praying for this donkey
for 18 years. It reminds me of that gold
digger song. 18 years 18 that's all that loops in my head.
Only Kanye song I know. 18 years. 18 years.

(24:21):
Yeah, I did save his testicles Agerm, but the point is happy
lips up there. I still pay for his care every.
Month but I. Had not been personally to see
him if. You have too much money.
I kept thinking how excited is Happy going to be when his man
shows up and I think this is going to be 1.
Of the great love stories of alltime, this reunion of me with.
My Dog, we Go again love stories.

(24:43):
Yeah, man, oh man. You're.
Creepy if you ain't no. So.
And that you need to hang and when she leave your way and she
going to leave with half. 18 years. 18 years and I show up
and I walk out to the corral where Happy is and he sees me.

(25:04):
And nothing. For the price of one bullet, you
could have ended this all. Wow.
I love What's the City? Vancouver.
Vancouver Shut up, Bobarr. You're not even supposed to be.
It's just a great moment with Kevin to start that segment.
Not a great moment in Bean's life though, I'll tell ya.

(25:25):
Very sad. I miss that guy.
That donkey loved him. You still have his testicles in
a jar. No, no, that was I think, I
think something went bad in thatjar and eventually they had to
be had to be turned out, yeah. Oh dear.
All right. I thought you left him at K
Rock. Did you leave him at K Rock in

(25:45):
the line? I don't, I don't think so.
I think I cleaned. Them out as a prize I.
Think I threw, I think I threw them away.
I think I, but you know what I mean?
That was kind of a big, a big moment 'cause I assisted the
veterinarian who came out to do the castration.
My donkey was 11 at the time, and he had never been castrated.
And, you know, just like with having a dog or something, it's

(26:06):
behaviorally. And also it's more healthy for
them to be neutered or spayed. And the vet came out and asked
me to assist him with the operation.
I'd never been as up close and personal to a donkey's testicles
as I was that day. But he had me holding on to, you
know, clamping down the veins sothat he could suture them and
everything to try to stop the bleeding during the surgery.

(26:27):
It was a crazy thing. I didn't mind it, but it was
just, it was. It's a.
It is a memory I have maintained.
You know how to party. What you got to do for your pets
guys? Come on now.
Quick see, this is what's fun about listening to the old
shows, because I was listening to that and I'm like, wait, is
that happy the donkey? That stuck in my mind?
Happy the donkey. And so when I heard that thing

(26:49):
play out, it was a lot of fun. Oh good, I'm glad you enjoyed
it. And that is the quiz.
I think you did great. I think you did great, Lindsay.
Well done. Appreciate you putting that
together. Thank you so much, Christopher.
What's next? What's next is I guess we're
going to ask a bunch of questions.
Edwin, what do you got on? I'll start off we're all big
radio fans and I know you've loved radio got since you were a

(27:11):
kid. Where's radio going?
It seems to be. I wouldn't say it's dying
because they always say radio's dying.
What do you think's going to happen to radio in the future?
Well, radio now means more than just what you get on your AM or
FM radio essentially has morphedinto just another option in the
audio landscape. Cape Radio is shows, whether

(27:33):
they're podcasts or they're on satellite or they're on YouTube
or they're on AAMFM radio. I mean, essentially that's where
it's going. I think the device is certainly
losing relevance. All you have to do is look at
any figures on any station and you'll see how small the numbers
are getting the younger people are.
You're just not going to find any 18 year olds really that are
going to voluntarily want to turn on the radio because those

(27:56):
are kids even older than that. 30 year olds at this point have
grown up with their programming available on demand.
So why turn on the radio and listen to a show that may or may
not entertain you over the course of several hours when you
can just wait for the podcast orlisten to another show that is
going to be exactly what you want and exactly what you need?

(28:16):
So not a great time to be a radio company, that's for sure.
The reach is still impressive. It's still, I think for most
people in the car, I still thinkit's the number one option by
far, just because it's easy and it's free.
You don't have to fuss with setting something up and running
it through your car play or whatever.
But eventually I think we're going to say goodbye to the AM

(28:36):
and the FM. I mean, I live in Europe, right?
There's virtually no AM anymore,virtually none.
And they are now. Every country now, including
mine, is shutting down FM stations too, because we're
miles ahead of the US in terms of digital radio.
Everything is on DAB or DAB Plushere in the UK, for instance,
and you don't, it doesn't even matter if you're on AM or FM

(28:58):
anymore. That's not where the people are.
That's probably the direction America is going as well.
Yeah, that is an interesting point because because like
podcasting and what whatever youchoose, that's what radio used
to be. You know, you would choose K
rock, you would choose KHJ, whatever.
So that's an interesting point that it it is kind of the same
thing where you're choosing youraudio entertainment.

(29:19):
Well, so the irony is I put on Krock at my store and they had
Nicole Alvarez. It has the 90s at noon and it's
just a wonderful mix of amazing music that I've it's all K rock,
right? So, but it's all the music I
grew up on. And so it's kind of like, I need

(29:42):
to hear that everyday, you know what I mean?
It's just kind of like, and I'vetried other websites and things
like that, but the the mix is just not the same.
And so there's some goodness to it.
And then where I live they have that we only have like 2 radio
stations and one of them I thinkit's an 80s station and it's

(30:05):
John Tesh. You know what?
I don't want to hear John Tesh ever.
Sorry, but I'd rather Nicole Alvarez, Megan Holiday.
Kevin, obviously, you know what I mean?
I just don't. It's just it's so banned and so
scripted, it doesn't seem real, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's, I mean, there's

(30:27):
obviously there are people who enjoy John Tesh, he's
syndicated, he's all over America, he's got fans, but not
every kind of entertainer or presenter is going to be for
everyone. It's interesting what you say
about enjoying That 90s Show with Nicole though, because
you're listening to at least a playlist that is being hand
picked by people who know that music.
And maybe that would be the answer to why you enjoy that
more than going on Spotify and looking at one of 1000 playlists

(30:50):
that are on there that are 90's rock music for you.
It may not hit the same buttons because it's just an algorithm,
as opposed to a human who grew up in Los Angeles in the 90s and
knows what was popular exactly. And listening to the old shows
and there's just this spontaneity, this live thing
that just doesn't happen in podcasts.
You got the callers, the Afro line.

(31:11):
It's just so much chaos that youguys would rein in really
masterfully, just make it hilarious all the time, even
when shows would kind of explode.
Like one of one of the interviews I love is the
Cardigans interview because it was such a a disaster and I've
been listening to since 1990, since day one.
I've been AK Rock fan for prettymuch my whole life.

(31:34):
And when you came on, I started listening.
And so, you know, just that disaster and how you've changed
that over the years to just be a, a funny fond memory is it's
amazing to me. Well, that's a great compliment.
Thank you very much. You're right.
When you're doing a live show for a long time, there are
always going to be days where things don't go the way you

(31:54):
expect them to go. But I think we were all
improvers, right? I mean, obviously Ralph is the
master of improvisation. Nobody's better.
But Kevin and I did learn after doing the show for a while to
just kind of roll with the punches because you just don't
have any choice. And because we always knew that
we weren't really very good at it, I think it was easy for us

(32:15):
to. We didn't have super, super high
standards. We weren't expecting it to sound
slick. So it was OK for us when things
fell apart because we felt like that was some, that was a place
we were comfortable living in. Yeah, I mean, for me, K Rock I,
I didn't really grow up listening to a lot of radio DJs.
I didn't like radio DJs. But listening to K Rock and Jet
the Fish and Poor Man and just their chaotic way of talking,

(32:38):
just if that drew me to the station.
Yeah, I've had a lot of radio stations that I have been a fan
of, that I've admired a lot of personalities that are, that are
broadcasting heroes of mine. But I always say, and I believe
it's strongly that K Rock in the80s was maybe the best radio
station in America. To this day, I think it's maybe
one of the most entertaining stations I ever heard.

(32:59):
I mean, I've, you've probably heard me mention this before,
Christopher, that I used to fly to Los Angeles from DC where I
live to record K Rock to becausethat was the only way back in
the day, right? I was just obsessed with K Rock
in the 80s. And the personalities you
mentioned, along with, you know,Freddie Snakeskin and others,
Swedish Eagle, there was nothinglike it anywhere in the country.

(33:19):
And it was a perfect mix of leftof center music and
personalities who really could do whatever they want.
And they were one-of-a-kind. There was nothing cookie cutter
about it. And none of those DJs would have
worked on any other radio station but K Rock either.
Oh, it was a magical time. I've often said also that, and
I'm only half joking here, that that Blade and the Poor Man was

(33:41):
the last good morning show they had on K Rock.
And what I mean by that is just once it got into the 90s and K
Rock went from an independent station to being bought by CBSA,
lot of things started to change and the playlist started to
tighten up. And it was still fun and we
still had a number of good years.
But it was not the same kind of spontaneous radio that you're
talking about from back in the 1980s.

(34:03):
That really was the golden age. Was that a challenge to you
because you were the outsiders at the beginning?
You know, you were taking potshots at Rick DS because he
was #1 and suddenly you guys were number one in the 90s.
What's the question? Was it a challenge?
Was it a challenge? What was different about being
the big guys as opposed to beingthe outsiders?
Well, you're right. We did have a stint at #1 and I

(34:26):
do remember one or a couple of different ratings periods where
we were number one in every demo, which would still blows my
mind. It just doesn't happen. 12 + 18
to 3425 to 54. It was just, it was amazing.
We got, you know, we had a lot of things going for us.
Obviously the music at that timewas very, very hot and we had a
very good radio station and we were just contributing our

(34:48):
little part in the morning. But here is why I was able to
handle it. Even when we were number one, it
never felt like we were #1 and part of the reason is, and I
think this is one thing that a lot of people may not know about
it. If you're the number one show in
Los Angeles, that still only means you have 5% of the
audience or 6% of the audience, right?

(35:09):
So once you think about it that way, you realize I am not all
that. This show is a minority show at
best because 95% of the radio listening audience is not
listening to us 'cause it's so spread out.
You got a bunch of shows and thefives and the fours and the
threes and the twos and the ones.
It's all spread out, but there'snobody.
It's not like a television show that has five times they don't

(35:33):
exist anymore either. But you know what I'm saying?
Back in the day, there might have been a television show,
American Idol, at its peak that might have five times the
viewers of any other show on in its time slot.
That's a winner, right? Our show was big compared to
other shows, but not big compared to the general
audience. And I think that made it pretty
easy to not get too excited about it.
And I'll also say this, and thisis, look, Jimmy Kimmel's maybe

(35:55):
the most talented person I ever worked at in radio and one of
the nicest, too. But he drummed into our heads
that whatever ratings you had, we're going to drop off in a
month anyway, right? So you really couldn't get that
all that excited about it. Because even if you were #1
three days from now, those numbers drop off and you're
looking at new numbers. What are those going to be?

(36:16):
That's what we need to be focused on.
Kind of makes sense now when thea segment that's wise being
pretty sad, it sounds like you had a lot of people telling you
to be pretty sad about a lot of different successes.
Well. I was going to say it makes
sense with just the whole radio mentality of, you know, we just
finished recording, we just finished being on air.

(36:36):
What's tomorrow? You know, I think we when we
talked to Ralph, they brought upthe calling Jacques Chirac and
how amazing that moment was. But once that was over, you guys
were what's the what's the plan for the next show?
Well, in that particular case, and that is a memory that I
actually do have, because it wasso significant in our lives.

(36:58):
I think it's the greatest singlemoment of my broadcasting
career, even though I had next to nothing to do with it, just
being in the room for that. I couldn't believe it happened.
None of us could believe it happened.
It blew our minds so much. But that particular day wasn't
as much about what are we going to do tomorrow.
It's why do we hate this job so much that we got called into the
general manager's office immediately after to be told

(37:20):
that it didn't happen, to be told that we could never forget
replaying it, forget cutting it up and putting it in a promo.
We could never even acknowledge that it happened.
We could not talk about it to anybody in or out of the
building. If there were any press
inquiries, we had to pass. They just wanted it to go away.
And in our mind, this is the kind of moment that any radio

(37:40):
show would pray for. This is the type of thing that's
going to get you on TV. It's going to get you the
newspaper. It's going to get people who
don't know anything about your show to hear about you, possibly
for the first time and go, oh, that sounds funny.
I want to hear these guys, right?
It was so disappointing. It was crushing.
It really, really was. That's really more my memory of
that day than the elation at Jacques Chirac, the president of

(38:03):
France, picking up the phone, and how unbelievably in awe I
was at Ralph Garmin's ability tostay in character and have that
conversation as if it were real.It was a fantastic moment.
How quickly after that happened did the fallout occur?

(38:25):
The fallout within our own building, you mean?
Oh, within 1/2 an hour? Because it was right near the
end of the show. I think it was around 9:30 or so
in the morning when we made the call.
And yeah, so the show ends and we're high fiving ourselves and
we're talking about they should throw us a parade, right?
And then we get called into Tripp Reeves office, the general
manager, and that's when he smacks us down.
And he was not playing. And it's not even like he said

(38:48):
to us, listen, guys, that was great.
But here's why we can't roll with it, right?
This is why it might cause feedback, get us in trouble,
whatever. It wasn't even like that.
He was mad at us for doing it. And that was the part, and this
is where the business and the creative side bump heads, I
guess, because from a creative standpoint, it was a great idea

(39:10):
and it was Florida State executed and we were really
proud and happy about it. And that's what made it sad.
And by the way, in case you're wondering what was their problem
with it? Their problem with it is that
they considered it illegal that we made the phone call and put
somebody on the air without themknowing about it.
And technically they're right. It was worth the risk, though if
we, if that had been an FCC violation, we would have had to

(39:31):
pay a fine. I still think it was worth the
risk. And our argument would have been
there was no damage done to the president of France because the
only people who were listening to it were people who knew that
it was a joke, who knew that we that it wasn't really Jerry
Lewis on the phone, it was us. And this was our argument when
Jerry Lewis tried to sue us as well, by the way, was that

(39:52):
nobody thought Jerry Lewis had said anything to the president
of France because they were listening to the show and they
knew that it was Ralph. So the whole thing just went
away. And still to this day, it's a
it's a real, as the expression goes, Burr in my saddle.
That's something though that youguys handled so well was the
friction with the the suits and it was really funny over the
years. So that's something that I

(40:14):
actually enjoyed. Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it,
Edwin. I don't know if you enjoy
friction with with your boss. I don't know.
I don't know if that's fun for you, but it was not the best
part of our job. And for the most part, to be
fair, for the most part, we wereleft alone for a long time.
It's not like we had a program director like a lot of DJs do,
who is in his face all the time,are always calling in the office

(40:35):
to listen back to a tape and criticize.
And Mr. Weatherby was actually pretty good.
And I think it was frankly, because he didn't care that much
and also because he thought, well, I've got this mature
morning show that kind of knows what they're doing and I need to
put my attention somewhere else.So in general, in general, they
treated us pretty well. But yeah, once in a while we

(40:55):
certainly did run up against them.
And it was tough. Yeah, I remember the one.
And we brought it to our show when Psycho Mike did the version
of Hey there, vagina. Like one person called in and
complained. And you guys are just like,
what? We can't do anything fun.
We were just for a few episodes.You guys were just beaten.

(41:18):
That's the that's a great example because there is, look,
it's a matter of personal taste.That is not funny to some
people. But for to us, it was funny.
And to a lot of our listeners, it was funny.
And that ought to be our call asfar as long as something is not
putting the license in jeopardy.I think we as the talent ought
to be the ones to decide what's funny on our own show.

(41:38):
And we trusted our instincts. And that was a great Mike
Catherwood bet. And by the way, let's all
remember sometime later, I don'tremember when, at some point he
ran into that guy who wrote, sang that song and he was a huge
fan of it and they ended up performing it together.
Remember that video we've seen of the hallway at Loveline,
right. So not even he wasn't even
offended by it. So what right does anybody else
have to be offended? But the guy wrote the song.

(41:59):
So was there a point, and I'm thinking of the gummy bear
incident where I think it was like Psycho Mike or maybe Dave
was going to eat a giant gummy bear.
And the lawyers were like, hey, no, you're not going to do that.
But then they delved into like, well, why don't you like do a
song about gummy bears? Like was there a point where
they like delved from? You can't do that too.
Like here's my creative ideas. I don't remember the gummy bear

(42:24):
incident at all, but I'm sure that there were other people who
made suggestions of things that they thought would be more a
palatable to the suits. We, I don't remember us ever
getting one of those ideas and going with it though.
Now going back into some of yourradio date, well, going back
into some of the, the, the talents of the show, one of the

(42:46):
things we just recently recentlylistened to was the Paul
McCartney interview where Kevin hung up on Paul McCartney.
We all remembered Kevin hanging up on Paul McCartney.
But going back and listening to that, for me, the thing that I
was that I really enjoyed was the way you interviewed Paul
McCartney. I'm not a big Beatles fan and I
feel like there's just everybodytalks about The Beatles

(43:08):
relentlessly. So there's nothing new for me to
learn about Paul McCartney, but listening to interview him was
really a delight. And so just your interview
style. I, I really want to compliment
that and, and, and get your thoughts on, on interviewing
people because I feel I'm doing a poor job right now.
You're not. You're doing a great job.

(43:28):
Good until the end. That's a very nice compliment.
Thank you. I very much enjoyed interviewing
people and most of the people I interviewed I really didn't care
that much about because you havepeople on, because they're
people you think your audience can like even like I'm
interviewing X Games athletes orskateboarders or Sublime, you

(43:51):
know, just people that I don't care about.
But the people that I do care about I get very excited about.
And there were people I always look forward to having on the
show, you know, people like JackWhite that I just am such a huge
fan of. And mostly my interviewing comes
from curiosity really. That's the, I think that's the
number one, if I have any trait that made me well suited to be
on radio in a position like that, it's that I really am

(44:14):
genuinely curious about people. I really don't run out of
questions of things that I want to know about somebody if it's a
subject that I'm interested in. And I am a huge Beatles fan and
I understand what you're saying.And you know, Kevin is a perfect
example of somebody who would probably be fine with listening
to The Beatles. They wouldn't bother him.
But he feels like they've been forced out his throat his whole

(44:35):
life because everybody talks about them being the best fan in
the world and he just wants to rebel against that.
That's not really The Beatles fault, though.
That all that hype. You know, it's so funny.
I was texting with a friend thisweek about Oasis because they're
in town here in London at Wembley.
And he's like, I really like Oasis.
But I'm so I, I wouldn't go because of the hype.
And I'm like, well, that's not the band's fault.

(44:56):
The band is great. The hype is just from how
excited their fans are and have been, how long they've been
looking forward to this. And I think that's the case with
The Beatles, too, is they just, every musician says they're the
best band of all time. And I think people get tired of
hearing about that. And also they're at the point
now where you've heard every Beatles song that you're going
to hear so many times that I canunderstand why at this point

(45:17):
somebody's not excited the next time yesterday comes on the
radio. But it was a thrill for me to
talk to Paul McCartney and that every once in a while somebody
would be on. Neil Young is another one we
interviewed when he was in some festival.
I mean, some of those giants of rock'n'roll I often point out
when people say to me, you've interviewed everybody in your
career, who was your favorite interview?

(45:38):
That's a hard question to answer, but the one that
immediately comes to mind is thefact that we had Johnny Cash in
studio. Oh yeah.
Johnny Cash, I mean, there's a guy who was at the the birth of
Rock'n'roll, right in his son records days.
And to have an opportunity and Iwas still in studio, still
living in Los Angeles at the time.
But to be able to shake his handand ask a man questions about

(46:00):
his time hanging out with Elvis Presley.
I mean, how do you not love a job like that?
So if it's a subject or a personthat I'm really interested in,
I, I go for it. And you're very kind to say that
you enjoyed that. Oh yeah, it was amazing.
And like, and I've, I've heard abunch of Paul McCartney's
stories and interviews, but you brought out and I feel Paul

(46:21):
McCartney enjoyed that interviewtoo.
Well, I don't know. He's he's probably he first
place of as I understand that I don't know him.
He's a very, very nice man, a very gracious man.
And he understands that any timehe walks into a room or gets on
the phone, people are going to have butterflies in their
stomach. I think he's kind of used to
being people just so starstruck over Paul McCartney that if you
just have a regular conversationwith him where you're just not

(46:43):
stumbling and ruling, he probably appreciates it.
He was. He was very nice and very
generous with his time. So going back to more technical
stuff with all the files you save and all the sound bites you
save, I doing this podcast, I feel like this podcast sometimes
is like a cover band of the Kevin and Bean show.
So it's made me start collectingaudio files.
Well, send them my way. Where are you?

(47:05):
Why am I not getting emails fromyou Christopher?
Well, I, I'm busy doing this show for one, and busy being a
dad. It's weird.
All right, all right, but I will, I'll start sending you
more stuff. But I, I have like, how do you
keep it all organized? What's the best way to keep it
all in your mind? I don't have an answer to that

(47:26):
question. I mean, a lot of times I'll be
stunned by what I have and surprised by what I don't have.
You know, when I, you know, I left with the files that I had.
But there were so much stuff that Kevin had on his side of
the Control Board, for instance,I don't have any of the moments
with as an example, right? He has all of those and he had a
bunch of other stuff that maybe stuff is that that he brought in

(47:49):
that he had on his side. It's a lot of that stuff from
back in the K Rock days I don't have, but I just try to keep it
organized by being smart with mylabeling, just exactly like you
would be with how you store files that you keep on your
computer. If it's your income taxes from
1998, you make sure to write income taxes 1998 because that's

(48:09):
what you're going to be thinkingof if you ever have to go look
for that. So I just tried to always pick
out a title that includes words that I am going to look for and
sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't, but that's
the best I can do with it. Speaking of moments with Kevin,
do you collect moments with Kevin from his new podcast?
No, I don't really. I enjoy his new podcast, by the

(48:33):
way. I've listened to all 50 episodes
so far. But no, I mean, would I pull a
piece of audio if I thought it was funny and I thought it was
something that could be repurposed, something that I
could use for a show open, for instance, or just as a generic
drop? I probably would pull audio like
that, but I'm not specifically looking for something that has
Kevin on it, no. OK, Eddie and Jen were recently

(48:57):
on the show and it was probably the greatest moment with Kevin
on this podcast. Oh, I listened to the episode
but I it's not coming to mind. What happened?
Let me play it for you. Yes, please.
And now it's time for a moment with Kevin.
All right, Kevin, here we go. What is the largest planet in
our solar system? Let's see if you.

(49:18):
Know the sun Is it the sun just?Say the sun is the largest
planet. I don't am I wrong?
Oh my. Can I steal?
Can I steal? Yeah.
It's Jupiter. Woo.
Is it Jupiter? Corny.
You got it. Jupiter is indeed the largest
planet. Nice job.

(49:38):
That's all right. We'll edit that out.
That was a moment with Kevin. It's fantastic.
So it's perfect, perfect Kev DogKevin was so good at moments
with. And you know, what I like about
it is that he thought they were just as funny as we did.

(49:59):
It would be easy for somebody tobe embarrassed by something like
that. But Kevin's like, we're all
having fun here. We're all having a good time
here. And I love that.
That's his attitude. I really do.
And that's a very funny one. I'm glad you saved that.
We have a note here and I just want to read it because it's
Jen's question, but why did you never get your nose fixed?
Jen, take it away. When you sneeze, which is the

(50:22):
best thing in the whole world, don't get me wrong, But you said
it's painful, so why did you just keep it?
So for comedy or just fine? I don't know.
I don't think most people are inthe market for unnecessary
surgery. I feel like it's not that big a

(50:43):
deal. I don't sneeze that often.
It does hurt when I sneeze. I don't like it, and I don't
know why it does, but it's certainly not worth going under
the knife for. So I just feel like it's just an
inconvenience. I'll just live with it.
All right. And we enjoy it, so thank you.
Well, good. I'm glad you do.
Keep it. Up.
Absolutely. So I have a question and you

(51:03):
don't have to answer if you don't want to talk about it, but
one of the things that we were all really inspired by you
sharing was your journey with your issues with mental health
and needing to take a break on that.
So I would just love to know if you have any like kind of
memories of that or was it hard to share that?
I feel like a lot of us who never really talked about mental

(51:26):
health and their mental health journeys really appreciated you
sharing that journey so publicly.
I don't remember very much aboutthat.
I think that would have been in 2018, I want to say, because it
was during that time that I decided that I was going to
retire the following year, once we got to 30 years of the Kevin
Bean Show. It was during that time I
realized I'd been doing that jobfor long enough.

(51:49):
I don't remember about very muchabout it, but I do think,
Lindsay, that I was also a person who benefited from it
becoming more commonplace for those discussions to play out in
the media and more and more people coming out and saying,
hey, I'm not OK and I need you to know this or stepping away
for reasons like I did. And I think that just made it a

(52:11):
little bit easier for me. You know, I certainly wasn't the
first to do it. And I was lucky that the people
that I worked with were accepting of that and they
understood that they were supportive of that.
Management was not, by the way, I don't think I've ever talked
about that, but they did try very hard to not pay me while I
was out, even though I was out on medical leave.
Essentially. They tried really hard.

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They at some point, at one point, I think they may have
even threatened to sue me to getme to come back to work.
And I really wasn't gone that long.
It's not like I left for three years and continue to get paid.
I think I was only gone for, do you guys remember four or five
weeks maybe is all it was. But anyway, the show was great
about it and I felt a lot better, but it was dark times

(52:54):
because I didn't know really what was causing it.
The anxiety was off the charts. And I think I've talked about it
before, but I mean, I was wakingup in the morning and I was
vomiting before we did the show,right?
Like 15 minutes before the show started.
And that went on for a while frequently.
And then I got to the point where I was starting to doubt

(53:16):
whether I knew what I was doing.Like, do I know how to do a
show? I mean, it was almost like I
was, it was a blackout, kind of like, all right, I'm getting
ready to go on the air in Los Angeles for 4 1/2 hours.
And I'm not sure I remember how to do it.
Like what buttons to hit and what's my role and do I remember
the questions that I read and those sorts of things.
And I just knew at that point that it was going to get worse

(53:36):
if I didn't take some time off from it.
So I'm really, really glad I did.
I wish that I could tell you because I kind of don't remember
now how I felt better, except for maybe just having a break
from it. Having a month off probably
helped a lot, clear my head a little bit.
But it's not like I remember a bunch of therapy and I don't
remember, although I have tried antidepressants throughout the

(53:59):
years. I don't remember anything being
super successful or sticking at the time.
But for whatever reason, I was able to come back and I think it
helped a lot that I had an end insight too.
When I did come back, I had madethe decision and I think I
announced it not long after that, that, hey, at the end of
next year I'm going to retire and I'm going to move back to
England. And I think even if something is

(54:20):
difficult, if you've got an end date on it, it's like when
you're running, right, But at least you can see the finish
line. You're like, OK, I can make it.
This is how close I am. I'm not going to be running
forever. And I think that's what I was
going through. Does that answer your question
at all? Because I appreciate the.
Question, absolutely. Thank you for sharing that.
Well, and then because of that, then we got the magic of

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Stryker. So it all worked out.
He was amazing filling in. I love Ted, He's a great dude.
I don't talk to him often enough, but I I, I think he's a
wonderful man. He's a great broadcaster too.
He sure is when he. Stepped in for you and then he's
still on. What is he on the alt station?
But he's really good at everything he does.

(55:03):
Yeah, he sure is. He's a first class talent, man.
I love it. We had a lot of good people at K
Rock in the years we were there.I mean, Kat Corbett I think is
fantastic. And we had a lot of great
talent. You know, even beyond the first
generation of the K Rock people that were still sort of there
when Kevin and I got there, the,you know, they had a great
hiring plan where they brought in people who are really, really
good. We all benefited from that.

(55:23):
Yeah, even the Megan Holiday with Kevin is really good.
Too. She's fantastic.
I love Megan, love her. Are there any other podcasts
that you can recommend for us tolisten?
Because what I do for the show is I round up all the podcasts
in the Kevin MB. Yeah, you don't need any more
podcasts, Christopher. You're tapped out, man.
You're doing 1 and listening to the five others.
What the heck? Well, but I also need a break to

(55:45):
be honest. Like I'll listen to a history
podcast just to like, cleanse mypalate.
Yes, that's exactly what you should be doing.
Yeah. You were so happy when Jankytown
went away, weren't you? I mean, that was, you know,
anything to reduce your workload.
At this point, you're probably hoping a cup of tea goes away.
That'd free up three more hours a week for you.
Jankytown released an episode last night.

(56:08):
And you say 5 podcasts but like he listens to an Eddie Pence
podcast, he listens to all the even offshoots of the offshoot
podcast. So I feel like it's more like 11
or 12. Than he listens.
To weekly, yeah. That's crazy.
And then for this show, I listento the Week with Edwin and we
kind of like pull some of the memories from there.

(56:31):
And it's awesome. It's completely different than
the podcasts because it's it's got this, I mean it's pre
recorded, but it's got this vibeof anything can happen.
Oh good, good, good. Who's on Janky Town?
Is it just Dave talking by himself?
It's just Dave. Yeah, Yep.
That's got to be good, right? That's.

(56:51):
Gonna be he still gets my dollar.
Oh my God, you pay for it. All right, I got to listen to
that. I pay for it and I don't get the
episode. What?
There's a there's a dollar here.You don't get anything.
You just give them a dollar. I do have a podcast
recommendation that I have mentioned before, but I really
owe this guy so much credit because he's been a real

(57:16):
inspiration. He was a friend of mine who was
on radio in Seattle. His name, Luke Burbank, you may
have heard the name before. Maybe you've seen him as a
correspondent on CBS Sunday Morning.
He's also the host of a show called Live Wire on PBS or NPR,
I should say. Anyway, he's a dear friend of
mine. In fact, he's going to be in
London this week, so I'll see him in person this week.
But when he got fired from his radio show, he was doing a

(57:36):
nighttime radio show at AM 710 Cairo Radio in Seattle.
He got fired and he did the exact same thing Corolla did
when Corolla left K Rock, which was to say, all right, I got a
strike while the air in his hot.I've got an audience now.
I'm going to start a podcast. So two days later, he started
his own podcast named after the radio show Too Beautiful to
Live. That's the name of his show,
TBTL, Too Beautiful to Live. And he started doing this

(57:59):
podcast and I became obsessed with it.
I listened to it. I've listened to, I mean, people
joke about my show being at almost 700 episodes.
They are at 4500 and something episodes.
I want to say the show's been going on for like 17 years.
We're talking about like Jimmy Pardo territory.
It's as long as this show's beengoing on, right?

(58:20):
Anyway, so he started doing the show and it was a real
inspiration for me because he's somebody that I looked at as a
contemporary who was able to make the transition into
podcasting and have it be successful and have it be
addictive, have it be a show that you'd be really interested
in without really ever talking about politics or even current
affairs to the most part. I mean, he mostly just talks

(58:42):
about dumb stuff that we all talk about on podcast, like I do
on my show, like you sometimes do on yours.
And I just looked at that and he's had a Co host change since
then quite a few years ago, but they are still putting out a
fantastic show. It's five days a week, so I
usually don't get to listen to all of them.
I just don't have that kind of time, but I always listen to it
at least two or three every week.
But I always say if people go, is there a show that's kind of

(59:04):
like yours that you would recommend?
If you have room for another one, you should try these guys,
Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh. The show is called Too Beautiful
to Live and it's free wherever you get your podcasts.
Nice. OK, too beautiful.
I'll put that in. I'll put that in the the
schedule. Give it a try Schedule.
Schedule first of all, but give it a try and see what you think.

(59:25):
I'd love to know what you think about it.
I mean, it's always, you know, any time you start a new show,
you're a little bit lost. You're a little bit, I don't
know who these people are. I don't know whether they're
talking about, but you listen toany show a little bit, you start
to get it. Nice.
Now, I believe a few months backthere was talk of a Kevin and

(59:45):
Bean reunion, getting every getting the whole band back
together, you know, and I don't know, it's just been a a pipe
dream of ours just because we'vealways we listened to the show
and going back to some of the memories like your your last
day. I remember your last day Jimmy
Kimmel and Adam Corolla came on and when I heard about that,

(01:00:06):
they kind of had like differing political opinions.
So I was like, I don't know how these guys are going to work
together, but being back on together, it was like you guys
hadn't lost a step. And every time you and Kevin get
back together, it's like. Just you guys mesh so well.
Any idea about a reunion? Maybe.
Possibly. Well, when you say there was

(01:00:27):
talk of a reunion, I think you were the one who was making that
talk. It was your talk, right?
That's where you heard it. You heard it coming out of your
own mouth. There hasn't been any talk like
that that I'm aware of. I know we heard it somewhere.
Well, Allie brought it up on your show one time not too long
ago. Allie brought it up.
Saying what? Saying she'd like to see it
happen, a reunion and. And, you know, having Lisa Mae,

(01:00:51):
Ralph and everybody. And then we had Lisa on our show
and we asked her about it, and she said that I'm totally in for
that. So.
Well, I mean, I live in London, so it's not like I see these
people very often, right? Would it be fun if we were to do
something like that? Yeah, yeah, it would be fun, but
there hasn't been any any specific talk or anything like
that about it. No calls from Mr. Weatherby yet.

(01:01:13):
No, never. You guys know, I have been very
open about this, that I was disappointed.
Of course, I'm going to say no, by the way, if they do call.
But I'm just, you know, I just like to be invited, right?
It still kind of hurts. I mean, I worked there for 30
years and I left on good terms. This is an important distinction
here. I didn't get fired over the
phone during a pandemic. I had already retired and

(01:01:35):
already left. So I left in pretty good shape.
I thought a good relationship with management there.
And I really thought that they would see some value in keeping
in touch and have me on once a while, even if it's just to do a
specialty show or a weekend shift or be part of a top 500
countdown or just something justto say, hey, remember this guy?

(01:01:55):
Zero, man, absolutely never a call.
And we talked about it on a cup of tea when when Kevin went
back, surprising many of us. And then Omar did that little
Jingle talking about how we called being and he said no or
he didn't answer the phone or whatever.
Nobody ever reached out. Nobody ever has reached out to
me. So to answer your question,
Lindsay, no, still no. Are you too expensive?

(01:02:19):
Is that the writing on the wall here?
No, not at all. I mean, I'm not going to do it.
The point is I'm not going to doit.
So it doesn't matter if they askme or not, but they should ask
me. That's all I'm saying is I'd
like to be invited. That reminds me, there is a tea
party, tea party, tea bag or meet up on August 9th in Orange,
CA. I'm inviting you.

(01:02:41):
August 9th, I can't make it. I got that thing.
Shoot, I got that thing on the 9th, man.
What's this meet up? Is this another movie or
something or a hike or what? Yeah, it's just a get together
party. DJ Omar Khan's gonna be spinning
on the ones I've. Heard about this one.
And Lightning's gonna be there too, right?
Yes, we've had a few of the teabaggers reach out to a lot of

(01:03:01):
the old Kevin and Meecho get a lot of people there.
That's cool, Had. Had had really.
Yeah. It's so weird.
I mean, I've always been in touch with Chip.
Chip and I are, you know, I consider a very dear friend and
we text all the time. But it has been fun being back
in touch with Tad, who I had lost track of for a number of

(01:03:22):
years, but he and I text all thetime now too, and he's a
teabagger. So that's been fun.
By the way, you guys have had somany people on from the show,
from the old show. You've had Lightning on, you've
had Ralph on, you've had what beer mug has been on, right?
Miss Cleo has on no beer mug yet.
No beer mug. King of Mexico, you've had on,
you've had Kevin on, you've had Lisa on.

(01:03:44):
You just mentioned. Have you had an alley on?
No, no. Alley is the only one who we
asked way back in the day and actually said thanks for asking
but no thank you. Oh.
Interesting. So she never said since and
you're no Asaki or anything likethat.
But you know, if you can put in a good word for us, that was a

(01:04:04):
long time ago. And like people, some people
keep saying, well, we should askher again.
And I'm like she said no. So unless we have an in well.
You're very kind to respect that.
OK, Who else have you? I know there's somebody else I'm
thinking of that you've had on. I mean, you really have hit so
many people from the show. It's really kind of impressive.
We had Nick the sign holder. Oh wow.

(01:04:28):
Oh, Gia was on too. Yeah, go to.
Drink Murphy. Drink Murphy.
Yeah. Yeah, you had doto on.
We had doto. How was that?
That's like it was. Great Kevin Dabine.
He was great. Kevin Dabine.
I will text Doto from time to time just to see how he's doing
and he never disappoints. He's never not Doto, right?

(01:04:52):
I have a mega mix of like 5 hours of DOTO and it's still
funny to listen back-to-back to back.
Wow, like. Sam back-to-back to back not so
great. Dodo delivers I'm.
Sad that Sam is dead. Obviously it was very, very
tragic and I feel terrible for his family, but he he was not
always a winner. Sam did not always pay off at

(01:05:14):
all. I am sad we never got Sam on Oh.
He would have been great. He would have been really fun on
your show. He would have been like, they
should have put me on more, Theyshould have paid me.
Yeah. It was never enough.
Whatever you're doing for Sam, it was never enough.
I think Johto was a little a challenge as well.

(01:05:35):
We got a lot of comments like you guys are so patient.
You have the patient of Saints. It was mostly, I think
Christopher and Eddie, just kindof it was.
Like John's like talked him down.
He kept asking, do you think Kevin be like me?
Do you think they don't like me anymore?
Jen was trying to talk him down.I love that.
Does. I really do.
I actually love that guy. I remember he called in on the
show. Well, you asked him to call in

(01:05:56):
and then and his message was gold.
Amazing, right? Yes.
I always appreciate when people call and leave messages.
It means a lot to me. I know these days most people
don't talk on the phone anymore,so it means a lot.
By the way, no one's contributedmore calling the chat line than
Lindsay has. Lindsay, aren't you?
Refresh my memory. Aren't you the one who came up
with teabaggers, for instance? That was you, wasn't it?

(01:06:20):
Yeah, that is the rumor. That is, that's not a rumor.
It's true. I think that's verified.
But Lindsay has called in so many times.
Edwin, you have to, Chris, you have to and left great messages.
And believe me, we really, really appreciate it because I
love that feature at the end of the I don't know how most people
feel about it. I always enjoy hearing what the
listeners have to call and add on to and bring up new topics
and stuff because sometimes, youknow, we'll start talking about

(01:06:42):
something and it'll go in a whole different direction after
somebody calls in and points outsomething that we hadn't thought
about or talked about. I just love the interaction.
Well, it's like the new Afro line.
Yeah, it's exactly what it is, Yeah.
But a bit more coherent how? Many calls do you get, would you
say? So many, you know, the Afro
line, you know, we had an audience of hundreds of

(01:07:04):
thousands when we were doing theradio show, yet we would only do
the Afro line about once a week.Now, maybe it's that Omar was a
little more discriminating than I am, but you know, we do it
three times a week. You know, I play about four
minutes of calls three times a week.
So, you know, those are the onesthat get played and get edited
down. Almost every call gets edited
down, if for no other reason that people in 2025 can't give

(01:07:29):
you a sentence without an UMM init.
So I do a lot of editing on those calls, but we're probably
getting, I would bet 40 calls a day, maybe something like that.
That's. Good.
Yeah, roughly, I think it is some some weeks busier than
others. But yeah, there's there's always
plenty to choose from and I am so grateful for that and the
interaction means a lot to me. But by comparison, I put out a

(01:07:52):
thing on the Facebook for our 200 episodes.
Send us your messages. We got 3, so we're there.
Well, God bless those three. Right?
Exactly. And they and they were Drew, Jen
and Edwin. Those were the three.
Yeah, and yeah, Lindsay hasn't called yet.
You know it. Lindsay lives in her car.
Give her a break. I never do, All right.

(01:08:15):
I think we've taken up a lot of time already, so I think we
should. This would be a good time to
wrap it all up, right? No kidding.
Wow, it went by so fast you guys.
I know we had a great time. I'm actually a little bit
surprised that you've done 200 episodes now with the jumping
off point being the Kevin Le Bean Show and you didn't have

(01:08:35):
more questions about the Kevin Le Bean Show.
I'm actually a little bit surprised by that.
And maybe it's just that you know all the answers already or
you've already asked other people, but I was expecting more
questions that I didn't know theanswers to.
I was. Going to say why I listened to a
cup of tea this morning and you were talking about how you were
not going to remember stuff withall of us.
I was just like, OK, well, this quiz may be a, a test, but I, I

(01:08:58):
don't think, I think we would have just asked stuff and you've
been like, I don't remember. Well, I'm glad that it didn't
turn into that because believe me, there is a lot of stuff that
I don't remember. But thank you again, you guys,
for not only all the hard work you do throughout the year with
putting this show together, but also for the invitation and
yeah, let's do it again. Oh man, love to.

(01:09:18):
Do I mean whenever that date is that you're thinking about what
we do it again, I can't make it obviously I'm very busy that
day, but I. Episode 400. 304 hundred yeah,
in a couple two years. I'm looking forward to the Senor
Nostaki. OK.
How long is this going to how long is this going to go?
By the way, do you guys ever talk about are you ever going to
be done? Is there an end game or is it

(01:09:40):
just till further notice or until this is start dropping?
Dead. We're done.
It was a long con to get you. I didn't.
Think that far the honor? It's been great.
Like how long do you want to do this?
Well, I mean, for me, it's just it's so much fun to do.
I have, I have two little kids that I'm pretty much a single
dad. And so most of you know, this is

(01:10:03):
kind of a break from being a dad, right?
And the Kevin and Bean show has just been a big part of my life
growing up. And it's just really great to
revisit. And then, you know, Lindsay,
Drew, Edwin and Jen are just amazing people to just sit and
chat with for a couple hours every week.
Well, you got a great friend group, you really do.
You guys are all awesome, so thanks again for inviting me.

(01:10:25):
Thank you so much. Thank you much.
This has been. Great.
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Predator. Oh, you know what?
You know what it's. That's going to be a great show,
Yeah, look forward to. It it's similar to that, but
it's in fact to catch a contractor, but they're but
they're also touching kids, though, right?
It's the same concept, right? It's all put together.
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