November 23, 2025 • 38 mins
The inspiration for Brow Down talks his origins with Petros, the Armenian Comedian, Ozzy's rider, and his connections with Loveline!
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We have a special guest today. I don't have a name drop for
him, but let's welcome Inter Misak.
How you doing? I'm doing great.
I'm glad there's no sound bites from my time.
They're out there, they just can't find it.
Yeah, it's it's hard to find everything from what?
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OK, so let's get into Mesoc. Mesoc was an intern at Kevin and
Bean. What years were you an intern?
I I wish it was years. I was there for only a few
months, about six months in the summer of 2007, which now seems
like a lifetime ago. Yeah, and it and you started at
another station with Petros. Yeah, I, you know, I always
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listen to talk radio growing up cuz my dad's business.
We would always be in the car driving around and I would
constantly listen. And one of my friends is like,
hey, you love this stuff so much, why don't you try working
in it, which I never thought of doing before that.
So I did, I applied and I bounded KMPC, the old 1540 US CS
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radio station. It was where the USC football
games were broadcast out of. It wasn't owned by USC.
And I hounded Petros's producersand the radio station secretary
until I annoyed them so much that they actually returned my
phone call. And the funny story is they did.
They interviewed me just to like, shut me up and move on.
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And then that was like a Tuesday.
And on a Friday they had a broadcast at Dodger Stadium.
And I just showed up with no, noanswer to if I got the job or
not. I just showed up and they looked
at me like, hey, what are you doing here?
And I'm like, oh, I'm just here,you know, I want to support
whatever. And they said, oh, Petros, this
is the kid we interviewed earlier this week for the
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internship. And he just looked at me and he
goes, all right, you got the job.
And then he threw a headset at me and I go, what's this for?
He goes, just sit next to me, talk when I talk to you.
And then the show started 2 minutes later.
So I'm frantically texting my family and friends like turn on
the radio, turn on the radio, I'm going to be on the radio.
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They're like, what are you talking about?
I'm like, just turn on the radio.
And of course, he introduced me as a new intern.
And then the rest is history. And then from there, about a six
months later, that station folded because radio stations
come and go so often now. And overnight, it was gone.
So I told him like, hey, yeah, Istill need an internship.
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I never really finished. Can you help me out?
And he said, yeah, let me see what I could do at K Rock.
And I applied at K Rock. He put in a good word and we can
talk about that too. Edwin, you have a clip from when
he was an intern. They did a thing where they
talked about the interns that they interviewed.
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And then I play. I sent this one to you.
I said, is this you? And you said yes, so let me find
it. Oh, yeah.
So this is what they asked you in your interview.
Did did you get a nickname you saw when you were there?
So Kevin himself couldn't pronounce my name and wouldn't
want to remember it because he was too busy because I have a
difficult Armenian name. So he just like, looked at me
and he goes, man, your eyebrows are so thick.
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I'm just going to call you intern browse.
So I was intern browse and thus from that stem the sound brow
down and we can talk about how that kind of came together too.
All right, all right. OK, I found the clip.
We have interns here at K Rock, and they change every semester.
So we have people come in and dointerviews.
We try to figure out, you know, who would be the best interns to
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work here, right? And by work, I mean, you know,
you do a lot of slave labor for for no money whatsoever.
It's making copies and getting coffee mostly, but you do get a
chance to be a family on a wall and see how a radio station
works. Some people are interested in
that and if you are, go to krock.com and just just look for
the intern links. You got to be able to get school
credit for it. That's all we ask in this.
Particular set of interviews cycle Mike was in the room, I
was in the room, this is Kevin Lightning was in the room and
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assistant producer Alex was in the room and we were talking to,
you know, potential interns and one of them was an Armenian kid.
So we had to ask him this question.
Do you like the Armenian comedians?
Honestly, not really that. Thank you.
We all, we all applauded. Yeah.
Because if you said yes, then weknow there's something wrong.
Absolutely. You have to.
That's the one thing that solidifies the city is hatred
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for the Armenian comedian. Plus you can know.
That this guy isn't going to just kiss your butt.
He's going. To tell you the truth, yeah,
because he's, yeah, he risked, you know, us mocking him, but he
gave us the right answer. I love that.
So do you remember that interview?
I do, until you sent that to me.Earlier I I had forgotten about
it, but now it took me back right to that room.
Young kid, I was 20, I was 20 I think at the time and very
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nervous and they put me in the room after just meeting them for
the first time 5 minutes before that and they started grilling
me on tape. So I was very nervous but I
answered right way correctly. Thankfully.
The Armenian comedian guy was never funny.
He was just so wacky that even though he was my same people at,
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I just couldn't stand behind it.Well, Edwin's got hours of the
Armenian comedian that he listens to for fun.
Well. Let me make it clear, I didn't
think he was funny either, but Kevin and Bean were funny when
they talked to him, so yeah, absolutely.
Those were iconic segments and such an integral part of their
show. And when I got to finally meet
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him, I was like, my God, this guy is.
It's not a shtick. It's him.
This is who he is and it was never a shtick.
Did you get a haircut? You know, funny enough, I was
smart enough to not get a haircut from him, but if funny
enough, he for a while he was cutting hair right down the
street from my parents house in Montebello.
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I grew up in fellow and one day I'm walking by a Barber shop and
I look, I go, that's Sam. What?
What are you? And I go, oh, you burn here now.
He goes, yeah, I've been here for a while now and whatever we
tried it. I'd let him know who I was and
you know, but oh, I rot it. Crazy irony, crazy irony.
I just remembered. I'm glad I remembered.
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So in the Armenian community in Los Angeles, there's a very lot
of Armenians here. But at the time, growing up in
the late 80s, early 90s, there wasn't as many vendors and all
that, that were specific for theArmenian community.
Sam was actually a working clownfor kids parties, and he was the
clown that my parents hired at my baptism.
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And one day I'm looking at baby pictures.
My mom was like, oh, this is thebig pictures from your baptism.
And I go, wait a second, who's this clown?
She goes, oh, that's just the clown we hired.
It was Sam, the Armenian comedian in full clown garb
making balloon animals. And I go, I know this guy.
I worked on him at the radio station.
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My parents were blown away. They go, yeah, he was the one
Armenian guy who was doing kids parties back in the day.
Can you like the irony? Is that crazy?
That's awesome. You're so loved.
Imagine I knew that during the internship they would have went
crazy over that story. Yeah, wow, that's I mean how
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it's just amazing. It's just such a small world and
it you meet this guy from the radio that was not your hero was
actually like maybe your anti hero.
Like, I don't want to be like him.
Yeah. And you have pictures with them.
Wow. It's unbelievable like this.
This is how small and interconnected Los Angeles is.
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Yeah. So what was his clown name?
Edwin, Do you remember? Does anybody remember?
Wasn't it just Mr. Clown? Something.
Like that. Yeah.
I I I gotta see if I can find the pictures?
And if you can and send that to us.
I will, I will. It's somewhere in my.
Place. I'll make a T-shirt out of it.
It's like if you weren't to Google a 1991 clown at a low
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income party, that's what you would get.
You would get his face. Oh, no, wow, man.
OK, so and so wow. So he he did your he did your
baptism while and then he was. Oh man, I can't even fathom how
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close that is. That's like one of those stories
that you hear on the Internet where they the woman has a
picture of this little boy that was walking by her at Disneyland
and they got married. Yeah, thank God that didn't work
out for me. But it wasn't it just the irony
that of all people, of all parties, he was the one that
they hired. And crazy.
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Yeah. Did you ever hear the story that
he went to Lightnings kids birthday party too as the clown
and he was like offending everybody?
It's a spectacular story. I, I, I got to imagine in the
90s where he was still more likeput together, if you will, and
he was just doing his job as a clown.
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And then he thought he got some sort of fame with the radio
stuff and he just, you know, he turned into Sam the Armenian
comedian. And when you lose your, I guess,
I don't know, he was just like, you know, it was Sam.
It went through his head. The the little bit of fame went
to his head. So, yeah, he did seem to be a
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jerk at times. I mean, Lisa, who's the nicest
person ever, threw a drink in his face one time.
So you know he must have been a jerk.
Lisa was very, very sweet. As one of the few people who's
actually licked Lisa, I could tell you she was very sweet.
Now you're my idol. I thought you'd, I thought you'd
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go after him, Edwin. I thought you would try and take
him out just from jealousy. Yeah, I have a huge crust on
Lisa so. But you know, what can I do?
I can't change the past. I I could just envy you and
admire you. OK, so you were just there for
the summer And what other stories do you have?
You did brow down with Mike. So let me tell you a little bit
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about that. So after the first couple weeks,
Kevin couldn't remember my name.He's like, I'm just going to
call you brows. I'll remember that because your
eyebrows are so thick, they looklike caterpillars.
So I said, all right. And so we're sitting in the
room, the production room after the show, 1 day, and Mike looks
at me and goes, and those eyebrows are so beautiful.
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I'm going to write a song about it.
And, you know, I, I, I laughed it off, not thinking anything of
it, not knowing the men's talentthat psycho Mike was.
And sure enough, the next morning, I was one of the first
people in along with him. Mike would always get in first
as the engineer. And he looks at me.
He goes, I wrote that song aboutyour eyebrows.
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I go, what are you talking about?
He goes, yeah, I wrote a parody song and we're going to play it
on air today. I go, OK, you know, I was like,
now I'm like, oh, wow, this is real.
So. And then they played the song
and it blew up because it was very catchy, very funny.
Everyone that wasn't Armenian found that hilarious.
The arm, half the Armenians found it offensive.
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And half the Armenians like me found it hilarious that they're
actually talking about us on theKevin show, no less, that there
was a lot of fans that were Armenian because it's LA and
there's millions of listeners. So that video, that song blew
up. Lightning goes, you know what?
This is lightning in a bottle. Let's make a music video.
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So it's like, can you bring somefriends that look very Armenian?
I said sure. So I contacted some cousins
friends and we met at the Glendale Galleria and all over
Glendale and we videotaped, we made the music video Lightning
edited it and it got crazy. It went and back then in 2007,
it had hundreds of thousands of views.
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And then the comments section got so crazy with arguing and
sensitive Armenians trying to defend themselves and it got, it
got nasty. The CBS Lloyd in New York got
involved and said you know what,you guys gotta take this video
down doing more harm than good. So they had to remove it.
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But there was 1 lucky viewer that saved the video and it's
still on YouTube because of it. He just screen recorded it or
whatever. So the quality is very grainy,
but it's on there. If you type in brow down, it's
up there. Yeah, I, I, I typed it up.
I have it. I I'm like right now.
I'm looking at it it so. You're on the video.
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I'm in the video with Psycho Mike and my cousin and two
friends, and it's my BMW that Mike is driving in the end.
And it was like, it was fascinating.
And then they kept talking aboutit and they interviewed me after
the fact. It got so heavy and heated in
the Armenian community. Like an Armenian community group
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called, contacted me and they'relike, you know, this is
offensive. Why are you doing this?
Like, can you have them take it down?
I was like, look, it's a comedy show.
We laugh about everybody. If we can't laugh about
ourselves, then this ain't for you.
You can't be in LA and Hollywoodand and they're like, oh, but
it's offense. I'm like, it's not offensive.
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I happen to have thick eyebrows.You know, the other nationality
has different features that theymake fun of.
They make fun of everybody. They're not isolating Armenians.
They make fun of themselves. So and then they took down the
video and all that and they stopped playing the song on the
radio because they got so many complaints from sensitive
people. But it lives on and infamy now
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till this day when some it'll randomly come up or something
like someone will be like, Oh myGod, I know that song.
I remember that song and out back in the day in like O
809-2010, I'd like go somewhere to a party or something.
They'd be like, wait, your intern brows.
And I'm like, yeah, that's me. And they're like, Oh my God, I
love that show. And you would think it would
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help me find a girlfriend that time.
But it was mostly men who loved it.
But I did end up finding a womanwho had no clue who I was.
And now I'm married and all that.
Well good, she wasn't after you.Just be your brow down fame so
you know it's real love. And the lucrative internship
money, you know, Yeah. Yeah, it's like our lucrative
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podcast money. Same deal.
Oh yeah, riches. So see, this is what we love
about radio is one day Mike saidthat to you, the next day there
was a song and it just blew up and everybody saw it that we
knew, you know, and talk to eachother.
That's something I really miss about the radio days.
Yeah, and I'll tell you and you're absolutely right, the
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radio internships I do, that's why I tell kids now like go do
internships. Doesn't matter where it is, it
will lead to so much more than you can think.
Ultimately my internships at this these two radio stations
and the one I worked at after AM570, which I ended up working as
a part time employee for many, many years.
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It ultimately led to my next jobin corporate America for a
finance company. The CEO of that company knew the
radio station. He listened religiously.
So he told Tim Conway Junior, who was a sponsor for him, hey,
we need a producer. So he goes, I'll send you a
resume. He contacted me and he goes come
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in for an interview. Our interview for the job was
just talking about radio and allthe stories and all that.
I never even handed in my resume.
And then I got the job and it led to a very good career
because of it. And then I attribute it to the
radio station internships. Nice, nice.
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Do they still do internships? I thought that was changed or
they they do. They do.
The rules have changed because afew interns sued radio stations
across the country for some of the, you know, the, what's the
word? Hazing as as they call it.
Yeah. But it was pretty, you know, you
gotta be, you gotta have thick skin.
They made fun of you. They called you names, all that.
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But it's all part of the fun. And if you can't hang, you can't
hang. But a few people sued them for
things, not K Rock specifically,but because of that, nationally,
all the radio stations now, they're very careful.
What they made me do in 2007 would never fly now.
Kevin would hand me 40 bucks andhe'd go go to Del Taco or Taco
Bell down the street at 6:00 in the morning right when they
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open, pick up a bunch of food and come back and then go do
this, go do that. And then now you have to have
like, oh, the is the kids car insured?
Does the, does he have a clean record?
This like you can't, it's just so much liability in California
that now they're so strict and they have to, you can't make fun
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of the interns on there in case they're offended, things like
that. Yeah, I think there.
And then there's the ways interns get paid also changed.
I think they have to pay him nowlike a minimum wage or
something. Back then, no.
I did everything for months and months, almost a year at the
both radio stations with nothing.
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It cost me money to go in every day, you know?
Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah.
So all the laws have changed and, and the whole, I guess
interns used to be kind of like the whipping boys.
That's how they would be. They would kind of turn from in
from intern to whipping boy and then onto more radio
personality. And so now the whole whipping
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boy idea is kind of out of radioas well.
Yeah. You guys want to hear another
funny story? Interesting.
More than funny. Interesting.
So it was big news because, you know, celebrities would always
come in to Kevin and Bean, but when the big names came in,
everybody was on edge. And there was a week they're
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like, OK, we think we have Ozzy Osbourne coming.
You know what Ozzy could be, he could just not show up.
His crazy whatever. So like, we think he's coming in
on this day. So everybody was on edge.
I get there first thing in the morning, it's me and Mike.
They're like, OK, we have his writer list.
You have to go shopping for him.He needs these specific things
or he's going to be upset. So I go to the market down the
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block. I buy everything.
I'm like all panicking, very nervous.
We set it up for him. Ozzy comes in with Sharon and
their handlers and he never evenlooked at the table, didn't
touch a thing. And then that was the day.
You guys will remember this as fans.
Mike, who is also recovering like Ozzy Osbourne was at the
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time, got a tattoo of Ozzy on his chest and a tattoo artist
was there to permanently lock itin as a tattoo, Ozzy's signature
on his chest. So I was in the room for that
and it was amazing. Just Ozzy was blown away that if
someone would want him to sign his chest and have it tattooed
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right there in front of him. So it was really special and
really a powerful moment actually, because you know, Mike
suffered hard. He went through every kind of
addiction and the really the upsand downs of that.
And there's some stories for Offthe Air I can share.
But he was recovering and he's still sober and because of Ozzy
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as his inspiration. And I happened to be there that
summer for that moment, and it was really special.
Yeah, I, I noticed that Mike updated his, the, the name of
his podcast from Mike. He likes me to work in progress.
So I have that in the queue to listen to because it's, it's
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brand new. He hadn't dropped a podcast in,
well, a free one in, in a few months.
And I know he still has his Patreon where he does personal
training. It's always good.
It's always interesting to listen to his podcast.
I love listening to his podcast 'cause they're, they're
actually, they're most of the time they're pretty deep and
they have a lot of, they're not fun, they're not funny where I
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could bring them in normally. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike is actually a very smart and very intellectual person,
went through a very difficult time with his addiction.
And he's genius by every definition of the book, not only
musically and lyrically, but he's just a very smart guy.
And you know, he, him and his family, they moved to Texas and
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they've been out there ever since I can remember and all
that. I've seen him only a couple
times ever since the internship,but every now and then we
connect online. Yeah, yeah.
And I know cuz he's had a coupleof podcasts with Kevin and I
have always listened to those And he's he's got a whole bunch
of livestock out at his his ranch now.
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You can afford it out there cuz it's cheap to afford land.
Yeah. I I wanted to share one other
story that I thought of earlier.Again, a crazy ironic connection
to the show that I could have never seen foreseen coming.
If you guys remember, there was an engineer that worked at K
Rock named Scott. I believe his name was Scott who
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had kidney disease. And Scott Mason.
Scott Mason. Yeah.
And that's his name. Yeah.
And I got to meet him during my time, and it was during his
difficult moments. And then Bean gave him a kidney.
Yeah, of course. Like, we remember all that.
And at the time it was like, youknow, wow, That's incredible.
Unrelated, but ultimately Scott didn't make it.
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Many years later, unfortunately,he's not with us anymore.
But now I have kidney disease and I'm looking for a kidney
donor. So it's a crazy connection.
And you see, I'm wearing a Nebraska medicine sweater.
One of the places I'm registeredfor transplant is in Nebraska.
And ironically, I'm wearing thistoday.
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And I just remembered I was like, Oh my God, that's a great
story to tell because at the time it was like you don't hear
about it too much. And Bean did the ultimate
sacrifice and gave a Co worker as kidney.
And now I'm in search of a donorand I need to find me someone
like being crazy enough to do that.
So but I'm doing OK. I'm on dialysis treatment four
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times a week. I'm surviving the amount of
restricted diet and fluid restrictions and things like
that. But I'm surviving and people
like Bean give me inspiration and friends like you guys to
keep fighting and reminisce about the good days.
Is there a number or website that anybody listening or that
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we could post to share it so that they can?
Yeah. Yeah, I have a micro site, a
website, it's on my Instagram and my on my TikTok.
I'll share it with you guys and you guys could share it when you
post a podcast link. That would be very nice.
Thank you. What is it now?
Can you say it now? It's a link, I know it's like a
well. What's your What's your
Instagram? Oh, my Instagram, yeah,
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obviously it's follow Nisak. Very as Tim Conway junior jokes,
he goes, Oh yeah, that rolls right off the tongue.
Follow. And then Nisak is spelled
MISSAK. So follow MISSAK.
And yeah, there's a lot more info on my page there.
I talk about it and I explain mystory and unfortunately, you
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know, circumstances, it was a genetic thing.
And my kidney numbers just started going down, down, down
those last few years. And the last year and a half or
so, I've been on dialysis tryingto survive.
And then now I'm looking for a donor to see if they can help me
get back to some sort of normalcy.
But I'm doing OK. And these kind of podcasts and
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stories, it's, it's so fun reminiscing about those days.
May I suggest that you reach outto Bean?
You know, I, I will, yeah. I, I hate to bother him.
And I know, especially now that he's across the pond, like he's
trying to kind of do his own thing now.
But yeah, I will reach out. I will reach out.
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Well, Jen, they only have two kidneys, so he can't give
another one. Yeah, I understand that.
But he could, you know, we do great content for their podcast
as well, but just kind of what he went through, what you're
going through, you know, there'sI guarantee there's other tea
baggers going through other family members, you know, so
that would be a great community.Yeah.
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Yeah, that's a great suggestion.All right.
Do you? Do you listen?
You do you listen to a cup of tea in a chat is correct.
I used to when it first came out, but I got so busy with life
and everything that I didn't continue and I didn't want to
pay, which I should because theywere such a big part of my life.
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I got to get back out there and listen to some of their stuff.
Well, I would recommend if you're not already part of like
the Facebook group that, that they have, I don't know if you
do Facebook, but all, all the, that group is really cool and
they're really supportive. So yeah, they, they would be
more than like that's where we would share our stuff as well as
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the Kevin and Bean fan page and,and our, our social media.
So yeah. Ed was actually connected with
me because of Facebook, so I'm glad he did so.
Yeah. It's so weird because when we
were listening to radio as kids,it was impossible to contact
these people, right? And then now, like, you know, I
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contacted you. I've talked to Kevin, I've
talked to Ralph, Lisa May. It's like, it still blows my
mind that I could talk to these people.
It's very interesting what social media has done.
Fascinating, yeah. And we really live in a
wonderful time as far as interconnecting.
And the world is now in the palmof your hand.
You know, I'll I'll tell you a couple more funny stories and
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then I gotta head out, OK? I was at K Rock as an intern for
Kevin and Bean for almost 6 months.
Never once met Bean in person because he was in Victoria
Island at the time. They had a it was 2007, so
technology was very different. They had a, a tiny monitor up in
the corner of the room with grainy footage of a webcam of
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Bean. So every morning I'd come in,
I'd just wave hello and he'd wave back and that's it.
And he never actually came to town when I was there.
He didn't come off and especially back then.
So I never actually met the guy.And I worked with him every day
or every other day, whatever my schedule was, for months.
But I never met him. But of course, Kevin was in the
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room, Mike was in the room, Lisawas in the room, and everyone
else. It was the time with producer
Alex. She had a derogatory name that I
won't mention. Yeah.
And then the King of Mexico, I used to sit next to him in the
phone booth and answer the phones next to him.
And everything you that you hearand described, it's exactly
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them. It was never a shtick.
What you heard was what you got with those guys.
And it was such a fun and crazy time.
I got to meet so many people. I got to lick Lisa.
We did instead of Armo karaoke, we did Armo Roki with DJ Omar.
And like, we've been so many funny segments and random
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things, probably things I'm forgetting now because it's been
almost 20 years, but I got to meet some crazy people, some
people who I was disappointed tomeet and some that I was happy
to meet. Well, tell us one of the people
you were real happy to meet, Oneof the celebrities or one of the
musicians? Ozzy Osbourne was one of them.
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Obviously there was a few athletes, a real, real weird one
that you would think back you'relike, Oh yeah, that's totally
2007. Do you guys remember the
deadliest catch, the TV show? Yes, this, the captains from
that show came into the station and I think all of us were more
excited about that than like Tori Amos coming in cause like
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at that time that show was like the biggest hit on Discovery or
whatever channel it was. And they came in and you think a
celebrity's coming in, but Nope,they're just regular fishermen
who look like they just came offthe docks and they happen to be
on ATV show now. And they were very out of their
element. They, these are just regular
fishermen. But it was so fascinating at the
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time cuz they're like now they're celebrities.
And you know, I mentioned Tori Amos.
She came in very weird, very strange lady.
Who's the famous movie producer Guy Kill Bill?
What's his name? Quentin Tarantino, Quentin.
Tarantino he came in strange catvery like definitely had social
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like he was not on the spectrum definitely and talk about
Asperger's with being this guy was a strange cat Kathy Griffin
I remember. Yeah, and Quentin Tarantino does
not seem like a normal guy. I mean, everybody has to wear
clothes, those shoes, you. Know, you know how they say
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there's a people straddle the line of genius and insanity?
Yeah. He had a foot in both sides,
definitely. And he was just fascinating guy,
but weird, very weird. Adam Corolla would come in.
Norm MacDonald would come in regularly.
Kathy Griffin was a strange cat.She you do not want to see Kathy
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Griffin at 5:00 in the morning with no makeup.
It was like you lost. You lost your appetite.
You take one thing away from theshow today, kids, that that's
it. Yeah.
And as an Internet, when they would ring the doorbell, I would
have to go get them at the front.
And so I would have to usher them to the studio.
And they're like, oh geez, wow, it's early, huh?
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Don't make up. And like, I got to interact with
so many people that I would never get to in any other time.
It was also the time where, Hey There, Delilah was the like,
biggest song in the world. So they came in.
I have pictures with that band. It was just a very unique time
and so special. Oh, man, that's amazing.
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And the, the one of the things II hear in your story and how you
got your job is one of the thingI I hear regularly when
interviewing people for the radio is that they just showed
up or they just like lied on their resume like Omar, like,
oh, yeah, I can, I can run this board or like you just, I just
knew where they were going. I showed up and said I'm here to
work. And they just that's it.
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That's how you started. Yeah, absolutely.
And this is good advice for anybody, especially young kids
who happened to be listening. When there's a door in front of
you that you're trying to get through, don't knock, kick your
way through. That's what I did.
I literally just, I had no shameand I showed up.
I annoyed the producer at KMPC until he said, OK, fine, just
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come in. And then with K Rock, I hounded
them. I used every channel I can with
Petros and whatever and it worked.
I happened to be a little bit unique in my background being of
Armenian heritage and they likedit cuz that's a shtick thing
they could use and it worked. And you just gotta be no shame
and just blunt and kick your waythrough the door you're trying
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to get through, you know? Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, that's the common thread I've just heard through
all of these interviews. Yeah.
Yeah, and it's funny, right after me, one of the interns was
Beer Mug and he ended up stayingand he liked it enough where he
chose to stay and work there. I didn't like the music radio
aspect of it. I'm a big sports guy, so I
wanted to stick to sports. Luckily I did.
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I just ended up working at AM 570 as an intern and then got a
job as a board operator and thena producer.
I was there for almost five years and then I pivoted to the
banking world and I'm still in banking, finance and all that.
Yeah, Edwin, you had something. Yeah, what other interns were
there when you were there? You said bear mug was at the
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end. Yeah, beer mug was there right
at the end. Like we actually didn't meet but
we are right at the same time our schedules didn't align cuz
you would go in every other day because of your class schedules.
Other one I remember was ShaolinRobot.
Do you guys remember? That of her.
Yes, yeah, she was there. Yeah, a few times.
She did the dumpster diving right?
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I think so. I think so.
I don't remember. It was a unique character.
And then there was a few others that I don't remember.
I spent a lot more time at AM 570 KLAC with the Sports than I
did K Rock. But K Rock was such a memorable
place and so unique. Kevin was wacky, Bean was Bean
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and it was just so special. Ralph was Ralph, you know, like.
Just didn't just can do anythingalmost if I was.
Like, I imagine, yeah, just so talented, not the most nicest
compassionate person, but, you know, he everyone was just
trying to survive, you know, and, like, stay on air.
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So I don't blame anybody for notrespecting an intern who's going
to be gone in a few months. Yeah, man.
Yeah, what one other story I have and then I'm going to have
to roll out. All right, all right.
After, when I went to the radio sports station, they ended up
putting me on a specific show. If you guys remember the Tony
Bruno Show, Famous guy, I remember that.
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Yeah. He was in LA radio for many,
many years. Very smart, funny guy.
And he was working his show out of Westwood 1 Studios, which was
where Loveline was. So I used to work right next to
the Loveline Studios for many months and all the Care Rock
people would come either to Kevin and Bean in the morning
and then Loveland at night. So I would meet everybody you
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can think of there. And there was, it was night
time, it was a night time show. So there's nobody there except
us. We're working those shows.
So one day Seth MacFarlane comesin and I'm in the kitchen
getting a cup of water or whatever.
And he goes, hey, can you get mesome ice?
Where's ice around here? So I'm like, sure, I'll get you
ice. And I got him a cup of ice and
he had a bottle of whiskey in his hand.
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I think it was Bushmills or something.
And so he did Loveline for two hours by himself, drank the
whiskey opt in his BMW 7 Series and went home, drank a whole
bottle by himself. I've watched it happen.
And after that we all looked at each other like, wow, this guy.
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Is he's got a liver of steel, yeah.
He is not a regular drinker. This guy is serious business and
he was, you know, one of those genius types who made a multi
millions of dollars with the talent he had and he was K Rock
always gave him an opportunity to put him out there and just
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fascinating. Wow.
Yeah. And Seth Macfarlane's always
just everything he touches is just amazing.
And. He's still going into.
Gold, yeah. Yeah, and here he's a nice guy
too. Like he throws a great Christmas
party. Yeah, he was very nice to me.
But man, that guy, the fact thathe hopped in his car and drove
home after a whole bottle, I wasshocked.
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I would have been in a body bag.I think I know I would have had
to substitute apple juice or something in there.
Yeah, because that Irish whiskeyhits a little different.
He is a trained professional. Don't try this at home, kids, is
what we're saying. Exactly.
Definitely. So you have to head out now,
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Misan. Yeah, I got to roll out, but
I'll happy to come by again one of these days.
With love to. Join definitely.
Oh, I'll talk with you about AM radio all day and day.
Man, I love that stuff. Me.
Too. I love it.
OK bro, how about I embody my shirt a little bit, huh?
Smoke cigarettes, Tell you whereI'm coming from.
Glendale. Glendale's my town.
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I love System of a Down because I'm Armenian bro covered in hair
and jewelry. All right.
So before we say bye to Nisak, give us your Instagram again so
everybody can reach out to you and and.
It's follow Mesak, FOLLOWMISSAK,my first name.
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And yeah, would love to have people come out and learn more
about my story, but I appreciateyou guys having me out.
This was really fun and happy todo it again soon.
All right. Thank you, Misak.
Yes. Thank you for coming.
On Keep in touch, yes. Absolutely.
Take care. Bye.
All right, bye. It's so.
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Hairy that it has a pubic turtleneck so brown down on
medium pride. I slick back my hair as I cruise
to the West side. Glendale Galleria Armani
Exchange gonna get a silk shirt with in my price range.
Marlboro cigarettes and Cologne gonna.
Wow, that was pretty amazing. Yeah, yeah, you know what?
Because I I just put intern on the the Kevin M Bean archive and
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a bunch of stuff came up with Brow but I didn't know that was
him. So now I.
Got to go back and double check.Well, next time he comes on,
when he gives us an update, we'll we'll put some brow on
there. Because I put Misak, nothing
came up, and then I just put intern and there's a lot of
stuff and there was stuff that said Brow, so he has some stuff
on the side. It's funny, you were looking for
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a Miss Double December and you found brows.
It's pretty pretty. Yeah.
It's like, it's like you said, it's a small world.
It is. Started looking for double DS.
I ended up with me suck. Double Brows.
Double brows. Thanks for listening to Quitters
Never give up. Find us on all the socials and
all the places tell you. Where I'm coming from, Glendale.
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Bye bye, Browder. Glendale's my town.
I love System of a Down because I'm Armenian bro covered in hair
and jewelry from head to toe.
We have a special guest today. I don't have a name drop for
him, but let's welcome Inter Misak.
How you doing? I'm doing great.
I'm glad there's no sound bites from my time.
They're out there, they just can't find it.
Yeah, it's it's hard to find everything from what?
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OK, so let's get into Mesoc. Mesoc was an intern at Kevin and
Bean. What years were you an intern?
I I wish it was years. I was there for only a few
months, about six months in the summer of 2007, which now seems
like a lifetime ago. Yeah, and it and you started at
another station with Petros. Yeah, I, you know, I always
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listen to talk radio growing up cuz my dad's business.
We would always be in the car driving around and I would
constantly listen. And one of my friends is like,
hey, you love this stuff so much, why don't you try working
in it, which I never thought of doing before that.
So I did, I applied and I bounded KMPC, the old 1540 US CS
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radio station. It was where the USC football
games were broadcast out of. It wasn't owned by USC.
And I hounded Petros's producersand the radio station secretary
until I annoyed them so much that they actually returned my
phone call. And the funny story is they did.
They interviewed me just to like, shut me up and move on.
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And then that was like a Tuesday.
And on a Friday they had a broadcast at Dodger Stadium.
And I just showed up with no, noanswer to if I got the job or
not. I just showed up and they looked
at me like, hey, what are you doing here?
And I'm like, oh, I'm just here,you know, I want to support
whatever. And they said, oh, Petros, this
is the kid we interviewed earlier this week for the
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internship. And he just looked at me and he
goes, all right, you got the job.
And then he threw a headset at me and I go, what's this for?
He goes, just sit next to me, talk when I talk to you.
And then the show started 2 minutes later.
So I'm frantically texting my family and friends like turn on
the radio, turn on the radio, I'm going to be on the radio.
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They're like, what are you talking about?
I'm like, just turn on the radio.
And of course, he introduced me as a new intern.
And then the rest is history. And then from there, about a six
months later, that station folded because radio stations
come and go so often now. And overnight, it was gone.
So I told him like, hey, yeah, Istill need an internship.
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I never really finished. Can you help me out?
And he said, yeah, let me see what I could do at K Rock.
And I applied at K Rock. He put in a good word and we can
talk about that too. Edwin, you have a clip from when
he was an intern. They did a thing where they
talked about the interns that they interviewed.
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And then I play. I sent this one to you.
I said, is this you? And you said yes, so let me find
it. Oh, yeah.
So this is what they asked you in your interview.
Did did you get a nickname you saw when you were there?
So Kevin himself couldn't pronounce my name and wouldn't
want to remember it because he was too busy because I have a
difficult Armenian name. So he just like, looked at me
and he goes, man, your eyebrows are so thick.
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I'm just going to call you intern browse.
So I was intern browse and thus from that stem the sound brow
down and we can talk about how that kind of came together too.
All right, all right. OK, I found the clip.
We have interns here at K Rock, and they change every semester.
So we have people come in and dointerviews.
We try to figure out, you know, who would be the best interns to
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work here, right? And by work, I mean, you know,
you do a lot of slave labor for for no money whatsoever.
It's making copies and getting coffee mostly, but you do get a
chance to be a family on a wall and see how a radio station
works. Some people are interested in
that and if you are, go to krock.com and just just look for
the intern links. You got to be able to get school
credit for it. That's all we ask in this.
Particular set of interviews cycle Mike was in the room, I
was in the room, this is Kevin Lightning was in the room and
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assistant producer Alex was in the room and we were talking to,
you know, potential interns and one of them was an Armenian kid.
So we had to ask him this question.
Do you like the Armenian comedians?
Honestly, not really that. Thank you.
We all, we all applauded. Yeah.
Because if you said yes, then weknow there's something wrong.
Absolutely. You have to.
That's the one thing that solidifies the city is hatred
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for the Armenian comedian. Plus you can know.
That this guy isn't going to just kiss your butt.
He's going. To tell you the truth, yeah,
because he's, yeah, he risked, you know, us mocking him, but he
gave us the right answer. I love that.
So do you remember that interview?
I do, until you sent that to me.Earlier I I had forgotten about
it, but now it took me back right to that room.
Young kid, I was 20, I was 20 I think at the time and very
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nervous and they put me in the room after just meeting them for
the first time 5 minutes before that and they started grilling
me on tape. So I was very nervous but I
answered right way correctly. Thankfully.
The Armenian comedian guy was never funny.
He was just so wacky that even though he was my same people at,
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I just couldn't stand behind it.Well, Edwin's got hours of the
Armenian comedian that he listens to for fun.
Well. Let me make it clear, I didn't
think he was funny either, but Kevin and Bean were funny when
they talked to him, so yeah, absolutely.
Those were iconic segments and such an integral part of their
show. And when I got to finally meet
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him, I was like, my God, this guy is.
It's not a shtick. It's him.
This is who he is and it was never a shtick.
Did you get a haircut? You know, funny enough, I was
smart enough to not get a haircut from him, but if funny
enough, he for a while he was cutting hair right down the
street from my parents house in Montebello.
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I grew up in fellow and one day I'm walking by a Barber shop and
I look, I go, that's Sam. What?
What are you? And I go, oh, you burn here now.
He goes, yeah, I've been here for a while now and whatever we
tried it. I'd let him know who I was and
you know, but oh, I rot it. Crazy irony, crazy irony.
I just remembered. I'm glad I remembered.
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So in the Armenian community in Los Angeles, there's a very lot
of Armenians here. But at the time, growing up in
the late 80s, early 90s, there wasn't as many vendors and all
that, that were specific for theArmenian community.
Sam was actually a working clownfor kids parties, and he was the
clown that my parents hired at my baptism.
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And one day I'm looking at baby pictures.
My mom was like, oh, this is thebig pictures from your baptism.
And I go, wait a second, who's this clown?
She goes, oh, that's just the clown we hired.
It was Sam, the Armenian comedian in full clown garb
making balloon animals. And I go, I know this guy.
I worked on him at the radio station.
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My parents were blown away. They go, yeah, he was the one
Armenian guy who was doing kids parties back in the day.
Can you like the irony? Is that crazy?
That's awesome. You're so loved.
Imagine I knew that during the internship they would have went
crazy over that story. Yeah, wow, that's I mean how
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it's just amazing. It's just such a small world and
it you meet this guy from the radio that was not your hero was
actually like maybe your anti hero.
Like, I don't want to be like him.
Yeah. And you have pictures with them.
Wow. It's unbelievable like this.
This is how small and interconnected Los Angeles is.
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Yeah. So what was his clown name?
Edwin, Do you remember? Does anybody remember?
Wasn't it just Mr. Clown? Something.
Like that. Yeah.
I I I gotta see if I can find the pictures?
And if you can and send that to us.
I will, I will. It's somewhere in my.
Place. I'll make a T-shirt out of it.
It's like if you weren't to Google a 1991 clown at a low
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income party, that's what you would get.
You would get his face. Oh, no, wow, man.
OK, so and so wow. So he he did your he did your
baptism while and then he was. Oh man, I can't even fathom how
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close that is. That's like one of those stories
that you hear on the Internet where they the woman has a
picture of this little boy that was walking by her at Disneyland
and they got married. Yeah, thank God that didn't work
out for me. But it wasn't it just the irony
that of all people, of all parties, he was the one that
they hired. And crazy.
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Yeah. Did you ever hear the story that
he went to Lightnings kids birthday party too as the clown
and he was like offending everybody?
It's a spectacular story. I, I, I got to imagine in the
90s where he was still more likeput together, if you will, and
he was just doing his job as a clown.
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And then he thought he got some sort of fame with the radio
stuff and he just, you know, he turned into Sam the Armenian
comedian. And when you lose your, I guess,
I don't know, he was just like, you know, it was Sam.
It went through his head. The the little bit of fame went
to his head. So, yeah, he did seem to be a
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jerk at times. I mean, Lisa, who's the nicest
person ever, threw a drink in his face one time.
So you know he must have been a jerk.
Lisa was very, very sweet. As one of the few people who's
actually licked Lisa, I could tell you she was very sweet.
Now you're my idol. I thought you'd, I thought you'd
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go after him, Edwin. I thought you would try and take
him out just from jealousy. Yeah, I have a huge crust on
Lisa so. But you know, what can I do?
I can't change the past. I I could just envy you and
admire you. OK, so you were just there for
the summer And what other stories do you have?
You did brow down with Mike. So let me tell you a little bit
(10:15):
about that. So after the first couple weeks,
Kevin couldn't remember my name.He's like, I'm just going to
call you brows. I'll remember that because your
eyebrows are so thick, they looklike caterpillars.
So I said, all right. And so we're sitting in the
room, the production room after the show, 1 day, and Mike looks
at me and goes, and those eyebrows are so beautiful.
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I'm going to write a song about it.
And, you know, I, I, I laughed it off, not thinking anything of
it, not knowing the men's talentthat psycho Mike was.
And sure enough, the next morning, I was one of the first
people in along with him. Mike would always get in first
as the engineer. And he looks at me.
He goes, I wrote that song aboutyour eyebrows.
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I go, what are you talking about?
He goes, yeah, I wrote a parody song and we're going to play it
on air today. I go, OK, you know, I was like,
now I'm like, oh, wow, this is real.
So. And then they played the song
and it blew up because it was very catchy, very funny.
Everyone that wasn't Armenian found that hilarious.
The arm, half the Armenians found it offensive.
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And half the Armenians like me found it hilarious that they're
actually talking about us on theKevin show, no less, that there
was a lot of fans that were Armenian because it's LA and
there's millions of listeners. So that video, that song blew
up. Lightning goes, you know what?
This is lightning in a bottle. Let's make a music video.
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So it's like, can you bring somefriends that look very Armenian?
I said sure. So I contacted some cousins
friends and we met at the Glendale Galleria and all over
Glendale and we videotaped, we made the music video Lightning
edited it and it got crazy. It went and back then in 2007,
it had hundreds of thousands of views.
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And then the comments section got so crazy with arguing and
sensitive Armenians trying to defend themselves and it got, it
got nasty. The CBS Lloyd in New York got
involved and said you know what,you guys gotta take this video
down doing more harm than good. So they had to remove it.
(12:21):
But there was 1 lucky viewer that saved the video and it's
still on YouTube because of it. He just screen recorded it or
whatever. So the quality is very grainy,
but it's on there. If you type in brow down, it's
up there. Yeah, I, I, I typed it up.
I have it. I I'm like right now.
I'm looking at it it so. You're on the video.
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I'm in the video with Psycho Mike and my cousin and two
friends, and it's my BMW that Mike is driving in the end.
And it was like, it was fascinating.
And then they kept talking aboutit and they interviewed me after
the fact. It got so heavy and heated in
the Armenian community. Like an Armenian community group
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called, contacted me and they'relike, you know, this is
offensive. Why are you doing this?
Like, can you have them take it down?
I was like, look, it's a comedy show.
We laugh about everybody. If we can't laugh about
ourselves, then this ain't for you.
You can't be in LA and Hollywoodand and they're like, oh, but
it's offense. I'm like, it's not offensive.
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I happen to have thick eyebrows.You know, the other nationality
has different features that theymake fun of.
They make fun of everybody. They're not isolating Armenians.
They make fun of themselves. So and then they took down the
video and all that and they stopped playing the song on the
radio because they got so many complaints from sensitive
people. But it lives on and infamy now
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till this day when some it'll randomly come up or something
like someone will be like, Oh myGod, I know that song.
I remember that song and out back in the day in like O
809-2010, I'd like go somewhere to a party or something.
They'd be like, wait, your intern brows.
And I'm like, yeah, that's me. And they're like, Oh my God, I
love that show. And you would think it would
(14:10):
help me find a girlfriend that time.
But it was mostly men who loved it.
But I did end up finding a womanwho had no clue who I was.
And now I'm married and all that.
Well good, she wasn't after you.Just be your brow down fame so
you know it's real love. And the lucrative internship
money, you know, Yeah. Yeah, it's like our lucrative
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podcast money. Same deal.
Oh yeah, riches. So see, this is what we love
about radio is one day Mike saidthat to you, the next day there
was a song and it just blew up and everybody saw it that we
knew, you know, and talk to eachother.
That's something I really miss about the radio days.
Yeah, and I'll tell you and you're absolutely right, the
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radio internships I do, that's why I tell kids now like go do
internships. Doesn't matter where it is, it
will lead to so much more than you can think.
Ultimately my internships at this these two radio stations
and the one I worked at after AM570, which I ended up working as
a part time employee for many, many years.
(15:12):
It ultimately led to my next jobin corporate America for a
finance company. The CEO of that company knew the
radio station. He listened religiously.
So he told Tim Conway Junior, who was a sponsor for him, hey,
we need a producer. So he goes, I'll send you a
resume. He contacted me and he goes come
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in for an interview. Our interview for the job was
just talking about radio and allthe stories and all that.
I never even handed in my resume.
And then I got the job and it led to a very good career
because of it. And then I attribute it to the
radio station internships. Nice, nice.
(15:53):
Do they still do internships? I thought that was changed or
they they do. They do.
The rules have changed because afew interns sued radio stations
across the country for some of the, you know, the, what's the
word? Hazing as as they call it.
Yeah. But it was pretty, you know, you
gotta be, you gotta have thick skin.
They made fun of you. They called you names, all that.
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But it's all part of the fun. And if you can't hang, you can't
hang. But a few people sued them for
things, not K Rock specifically,but because of that, nationally,
all the radio stations now, they're very careful.
What they made me do in 2007 would never fly now.
Kevin would hand me 40 bucks andhe'd go go to Del Taco or Taco
Bell down the street at 6:00 in the morning right when they
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open, pick up a bunch of food and come back and then go do
this, go do that. And then now you have to have
like, oh, the is the kids car insured?
Does the, does he have a clean record?
This like you can't, it's just so much liability in California
that now they're so strict and they have to, you can't make fun
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of the interns on there in case they're offended, things like
that. Yeah, I think there.
And then there's the ways interns get paid also changed.
I think they have to pay him nowlike a minimum wage or
something. Back then, no.
I did everything for months and months, almost a year at the
both radio stations with nothing.
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It cost me money to go in every day, you know?
Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah.
So all the laws have changed and, and the whole, I guess
interns used to be kind of like the whipping boys.
That's how they would be. They would kind of turn from in
from intern to whipping boy and then onto more radio
personality. And so now the whole whipping
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boy idea is kind of out of radioas well.
Yeah. You guys want to hear another
funny story? Interesting.
More than funny. Interesting.
So it was big news because, you know, celebrities would always
come in to Kevin and Bean, but when the big names came in,
everybody was on edge. And there was a week they're
(17:59):
like, OK, we think we have Ozzy Osbourne coming.
You know what Ozzy could be, he could just not show up.
His crazy whatever. So like, we think he's coming in
on this day. So everybody was on edge.
I get there first thing in the morning, it's me and Mike.
They're like, OK, we have his writer list.
You have to go shopping for him.He needs these specific things
or he's going to be upset. So I go to the market down the
(18:22):
block. I buy everything.
I'm like all panicking, very nervous.
We set it up for him. Ozzy comes in with Sharon and
their handlers and he never evenlooked at the table, didn't
touch a thing. And then that was the day.
You guys will remember this as fans.
Mike, who is also recovering like Ozzy Osbourne was at the
(18:44):
time, got a tattoo of Ozzy on his chest and a tattoo artist
was there to permanently lock itin as a tattoo, Ozzy's signature
on his chest. So I was in the room for that
and it was amazing. Just Ozzy was blown away that if
someone would want him to sign his chest and have it tattooed
(19:05):
right there in front of him. So it was really special and
really a powerful moment actually, because you know, Mike
suffered hard. He went through every kind of
addiction and the really the upsand downs of that.
And there's some stories for Offthe Air I can share.
But he was recovering and he's still sober and because of Ozzy
(19:26):
as his inspiration. And I happened to be there that
summer for that moment, and it was really special.
Yeah, I, I noticed that Mike updated his, the, the name of
his podcast from Mike. He likes me to work in progress.
So I have that in the queue to listen to because it's, it's
(19:47):
brand new. He hadn't dropped a podcast in,
well, a free one in, in a few months.
And I know he still has his Patreon where he does personal
training. It's always good.
It's always interesting to listen to his podcast.
I love listening to his podcast 'cause they're, they're
actually, they're most of the time they're pretty deep and
they have a lot of, they're not fun, they're not funny where I
(20:12):
could bring them in normally. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike is actually a very smart and very intellectual person,
went through a very difficult time with his addiction.
And he's genius by every definition of the book, not only
musically and lyrically, but he's just a very smart guy.
And you know, he, him and his family, they moved to Texas and
(20:36):
they've been out there ever since I can remember and all
that. I've seen him only a couple
times ever since the internship,but every now and then we
connect online. Yeah, yeah.
And I know cuz he's had a coupleof podcasts with Kevin and I
have always listened to those And he's he's got a whole bunch
of livestock out at his his ranch now.
(20:59):
You can afford it out there cuz it's cheap to afford land.
Yeah. I I wanted to share one other
story that I thought of earlier.Again, a crazy ironic connection
to the show that I could have never seen foreseen coming.
If you guys remember, there was an engineer that worked at K
Rock named Scott. I believe his name was Scott who
(21:21):
had kidney disease. And Scott Mason.
Scott Mason. Yeah.
And that's his name. Yeah.
And I got to meet him during my time, and it was during his
difficult moments. And then Bean gave him a kidney.
Yeah, of course. Like, we remember all that.
And at the time it was like, youknow, wow, That's incredible.
Unrelated, but ultimately Scott didn't make it.
(21:44):
Many years later, unfortunately,he's not with us anymore.
But now I have kidney disease and I'm looking for a kidney
donor. So it's a crazy connection.
And you see, I'm wearing a Nebraska medicine sweater.
One of the places I'm registeredfor transplant is in Nebraska.
And ironically, I'm wearing thistoday.
(22:05):
And I just remembered I was like, Oh my God, that's a great
story to tell because at the time it was like you don't hear
about it too much. And Bean did the ultimate
sacrifice and gave a Co worker as kidney.
And now I'm in search of a donorand I need to find me someone
like being crazy enough to do that.
So but I'm doing OK. I'm on dialysis treatment four
(22:28):
times a week. I'm surviving the amount of
restricted diet and fluid restrictions and things like
that. But I'm surviving and people
like Bean give me inspiration and friends like you guys to
keep fighting and reminisce about the good days.
Is there a number or website that anybody listening or that
(22:50):
we could post to share it so that they can?
Yeah. Yeah, I have a micro site, a
website, it's on my Instagram and my on my TikTok.
I'll share it with you guys and you guys could share it when you
post a podcast link. That would be very nice.
Thank you. What is it now?
Can you say it now? It's a link, I know it's like a
well. What's your What's your
Instagram? Oh, my Instagram, yeah,
(23:10):
obviously it's follow Nisak. Very as Tim Conway junior jokes,
he goes, Oh yeah, that rolls right off the tongue.
Follow. And then Nisak is spelled
MISSAK. So follow MISSAK.
And yeah, there's a lot more info on my page there.
I talk about it and I explain mystory and unfortunately, you
(23:34):
know, circumstances, it was a genetic thing.
And my kidney numbers just started going down, down, down
those last few years. And the last year and a half or
so, I've been on dialysis tryingto survive.
And then now I'm looking for a donor to see if they can help me
get back to some sort of normalcy.
But I'm doing OK. And these kind of podcasts and
(23:57):
stories, it's, it's so fun reminiscing about those days.
May I suggest that you reach outto Bean?
You know, I, I will, yeah. I, I hate to bother him.
And I know, especially now that he's across the pond, like he's
trying to kind of do his own thing now.
But yeah, I will reach out. I will reach out.
(24:18):
Well, Jen, they only have two kidneys, so he can't give
another one. Yeah, I understand that.
But he could, you know, we do great content for their podcast
as well, but just kind of what he went through, what you're
going through, you know, there'sI guarantee there's other tea
baggers going through other family members, you know, so
that would be a great community.Yeah.
(24:40):
Yeah, that's a great suggestion.All right.
Do you? Do you listen?
You do you listen to a cup of tea in a chat is correct.
I used to when it first came out, but I got so busy with life
and everything that I didn't continue and I didn't want to
pay, which I should because theywere such a big part of my life.
(25:01):
I got to get back out there and listen to some of their stuff.
Well, I would recommend if you're not already part of like
the Facebook group that, that they have, I don't know if you
do Facebook, but all, all the, that group is really cool and
they're really supportive. So yeah, they, they would be
more than like that's where we would share our stuff as well as
(25:21):
the Kevin and Bean fan page and,and our, our social media.
So yeah. Ed was actually connected with
me because of Facebook, so I'm glad he did so.
Yeah. It's so weird because when we
were listening to radio as kids,it was impossible to contact
these people, right? And then now, like, you know, I
(25:41):
contacted you. I've talked to Kevin, I've
talked to Ralph, Lisa May. It's like, it still blows my
mind that I could talk to these people.
It's very interesting what social media has done.
Fascinating, yeah. And we really live in a
wonderful time as far as interconnecting.
And the world is now in the palmof your hand.
You know, I'll I'll tell you a couple more funny stories and
(26:03):
then I gotta head out, OK? I was at K Rock as an intern for
Kevin and Bean for almost 6 months.
Never once met Bean in person because he was in Victoria
Island at the time. They had a it was 2007, so
technology was very different. They had a, a tiny monitor up in
the corner of the room with grainy footage of a webcam of
(26:27):
Bean. So every morning I'd come in,
I'd just wave hello and he'd wave back and that's it.
And he never actually came to town when I was there.
He didn't come off and especially back then.
So I never actually met the guy.And I worked with him every day
or every other day, whatever my schedule was, for months.
But I never met him. But of course, Kevin was in the
(26:49):
room, Mike was in the room, Lisawas in the room, and everyone
else. It was the time with producer
Alex. She had a derogatory name that I
won't mention. Yeah.
And then the King of Mexico, I used to sit next to him in the
phone booth and answer the phones next to him.
And everything you that you hearand described, it's exactly
(27:12):
them. It was never a shtick.
What you heard was what you got with those guys.
And it was such a fun and crazy time.
I got to meet so many people. I got to lick Lisa.
We did instead of Armo karaoke, we did Armo Roki with DJ Omar.
And like, we've been so many funny segments and random
(27:34):
things, probably things I'm forgetting now because it's been
almost 20 years, but I got to meet some crazy people, some
people who I was disappointed tomeet and some that I was happy
to meet. Well, tell us one of the people
you were real happy to meet, Oneof the celebrities or one of the
musicians? Ozzy Osbourne was one of them.
(27:55):
Obviously there was a few athletes, a real, real weird one
that you would think back you'relike, Oh yeah, that's totally
2007. Do you guys remember the
deadliest catch, the TV show? Yes, this, the captains from
that show came into the station and I think all of us were more
excited about that than like Tori Amos coming in cause like
(28:17):
at that time that show was like the biggest hit on Discovery or
whatever channel it was. And they came in and you think a
celebrity's coming in, but Nope,they're just regular fishermen
who look like they just came offthe docks and they happen to be
on ATV show now. And they were very out of their
element. They, these are just regular
fishermen. But it was so fascinating at the
(28:40):
time cuz they're like now they're celebrities.
And you know, I mentioned Tori Amos.
She came in very weird, very strange lady.
Who's the famous movie producer Guy Kill Bill?
What's his name? Quentin Tarantino, Quentin.
Tarantino he came in strange catvery like definitely had social
(29:04):
like he was not on the spectrum definitely and talk about
Asperger's with being this guy was a strange cat Kathy Griffin
I remember. Yeah, and Quentin Tarantino does
not seem like a normal guy. I mean, everybody has to wear
clothes, those shoes, you. Know, you know how they say
(29:24):
there's a people straddle the line of genius and insanity?
Yeah. He had a foot in both sides,
definitely. And he was just fascinating guy,
but weird, very weird. Adam Corolla would come in.
Norm MacDonald would come in regularly.
Kathy Griffin was a strange cat.She you do not want to see Kathy
(29:45):
Griffin at 5:00 in the morning with no makeup.
It was like you lost. You lost your appetite.
You take one thing away from theshow today, kids, that that's
it. Yeah.
And as an Internet, when they would ring the doorbell, I would
have to go get them at the front.
And so I would have to usher them to the studio.
And they're like, oh geez, wow, it's early, huh?
(30:06):
Don't make up. And like, I got to interact with
so many people that I would never get to in any other time.
It was also the time where, Hey There, Delilah was the like,
biggest song in the world. So they came in.
I have pictures with that band. It was just a very unique time
and so special. Oh, man, that's amazing.
(30:30):
And the, the one of the things II hear in your story and how you
got your job is one of the thingI I hear regularly when
interviewing people for the radio is that they just showed
up or they just like lied on their resume like Omar, like,
oh, yeah, I can, I can run this board or like you just, I just
knew where they were going. I showed up and said I'm here to
work. And they just that's it.
(30:51):
That's how you started. Yeah, absolutely.
And this is good advice for anybody, especially young kids
who happened to be listening. When there's a door in front of
you that you're trying to get through, don't knock, kick your
way through. That's what I did.
I literally just, I had no shameand I showed up.
I annoyed the producer at KMPC until he said, OK, fine, just
(31:13):
come in. And then with K Rock, I hounded
them. I used every channel I can with
Petros and whatever and it worked.
I happened to be a little bit unique in my background being of
Armenian heritage and they likedit cuz that's a shtick thing
they could use and it worked. And you just gotta be no shame
and just blunt and kick your waythrough the door you're trying
(31:37):
to get through, you know? Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, that's the common thread I've just heard through
all of these interviews. Yeah.
Yeah, and it's funny, right after me, one of the interns was
Beer Mug and he ended up stayingand he liked it enough where he
chose to stay and work there. I didn't like the music radio
aspect of it. I'm a big sports guy, so I
wanted to stick to sports. Luckily I did.
(31:59):
I just ended up working at AM 570 as an intern and then got a
job as a board operator and thena producer.
I was there for almost five years and then I pivoted to the
banking world and I'm still in banking, finance and all that.
Yeah, Edwin, you had something. Yeah, what other interns were
there when you were there? You said bear mug was at the
(32:21):
end. Yeah, beer mug was there right
at the end. Like we actually didn't meet but
we are right at the same time our schedules didn't align cuz
you would go in every other day because of your class schedules.
Other one I remember was ShaolinRobot.
Do you guys remember? That of her.
Yes, yeah, she was there. Yeah, a few times.
She did the dumpster diving right?
(32:42):
I think so. I think so.
I don't remember. It was a unique character.
And then there was a few others that I don't remember.
I spent a lot more time at AM 570 KLAC with the Sports than I
did K Rock. But K Rock was such a memorable
place and so unique. Kevin was wacky, Bean was Bean
(33:04):
and it was just so special. Ralph was Ralph, you know, like.
Just didn't just can do anythingalmost if I was.
Like, I imagine, yeah, just so talented, not the most nicest
compassionate person, but, you know, he everyone was just
trying to survive, you know, and, like, stay on air.
(33:25):
So I don't blame anybody for notrespecting an intern who's going
to be gone in a few months. Yeah, man.
Yeah, what one other story I have and then I'm going to have
to roll out. All right, all right.
After, when I went to the radio sports station, they ended up
putting me on a specific show. If you guys remember the Tony
Bruno Show, Famous guy, I remember that.
(33:46):
Yeah. He was in LA radio for many,
many years. Very smart, funny guy.
And he was working his show out of Westwood 1 Studios, which was
where Loveline was. So I used to work right next to
the Loveline Studios for many months and all the Care Rock
people would come either to Kevin and Bean in the morning
and then Loveland at night. So I would meet everybody you
(34:10):
can think of there. And there was, it was night
time, it was a night time show. So there's nobody there except
us. We're working those shows.
So one day Seth MacFarlane comesin and I'm in the kitchen
getting a cup of water or whatever.
And he goes, hey, can you get mesome ice?
Where's ice around here? So I'm like, sure, I'll get you
ice. And I got him a cup of ice and
he had a bottle of whiskey in his hand.
(34:30):
I think it was Bushmills or something.
And so he did Loveline for two hours by himself, drank the
whiskey opt in his BMW 7 Series and went home, drank a whole
bottle by himself. I've watched it happen.
And after that we all looked at each other like, wow, this guy.
(34:51):
Is he's got a liver of steel, yeah.
He is not a regular drinker. This guy is serious business and
he was, you know, one of those genius types who made a multi
millions of dollars with the talent he had and he was K Rock
always gave him an opportunity to put him out there and just
(35:13):
fascinating. Wow.
Yeah. And Seth Macfarlane's always
just everything he touches is just amazing.
And. He's still going into.
Gold, yeah. Yeah, and here he's a nice guy
too. Like he throws a great Christmas
party. Yeah, he was very nice to me.
But man, that guy, the fact thathe hopped in his car and drove
home after a whole bottle, I wasshocked.
(35:36):
I would have been in a body bag.I think I know I would have had
to substitute apple juice or something in there.
Yeah, because that Irish whiskeyhits a little different.
He is a trained professional. Don't try this at home, kids, is
what we're saying. Exactly.
Definitely. So you have to head out now,
(35:57):
Misan. Yeah, I got to roll out, but
I'll happy to come by again one of these days.
With love to. Join definitely.
Oh, I'll talk with you about AM radio all day and day.
Man, I love that stuff. Me.
Too. I love it.
OK bro, how about I embody my shirt a little bit, huh?
Smoke cigarettes, Tell you whereI'm coming from.
Glendale. Glendale's my town.
(36:22):
I love System of a Down because I'm Armenian bro covered in hair
and jewelry. All right.
So before we say bye to Nisak, give us your Instagram again so
everybody can reach out to you and and.
It's follow Mesak, FOLLOWMISSAK,my first name.
(36:43):
And yeah, would love to have people come out and learn more
about my story, but I appreciateyou guys having me out.
This was really fun and happy todo it again soon.
All right. Thank you, Misak.
Yes. Thank you for coming.
On Keep in touch, yes. Absolutely.
Take care. Bye.
All right, bye. It's so.
(37:03):
Hairy that it has a pubic turtleneck so brown down on
medium pride. I slick back my hair as I cruise
to the West side. Glendale Galleria Armani
Exchange gonna get a silk shirt with in my price range.
Marlboro cigarettes and Cologne gonna.
Wow, that was pretty amazing. Yeah, yeah, you know what?
Because I I just put intern on the the Kevin M Bean archive and
(37:27):
a bunch of stuff came up with Brow but I didn't know that was
him. So now I.
Got to go back and double check.Well, next time he comes on,
when he gives us an update, we'll we'll put some brow on
there. Because I put Misak, nothing
came up, and then I just put intern and there's a lot of
stuff and there was stuff that said Brow, so he has some stuff
on the side. It's funny, you were looking for
(37:48):
a Miss Double December and you found brows.
It's pretty pretty. Yeah.
It's like, it's like you said, it's a small world.
It is. Started looking for double DS.
I ended up with me suck. Double Brows.
Double brows. Thanks for listening to Quitters
Never give up. Find us on all the socials and
all the places tell you. Where I'm coming from, Glendale.
(38:09):
Bye bye, Browder. Glendale's my town.
I love System of a Down because I'm Armenian bro covered in hair
and jewelry from head to toe.
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