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July 2, 2025 45 mins

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The conversation started with Chuck's diverse career as a singer, songwriter, guitarist, and horror author. Debra introduced Chuck, who shared insights into his busy lifestyle, balancing music promotion, songwriting, and acting. He reflected on his early inspirations, particularly from the band KISS and his father's country music background, which initially discouraged him but later became a source of support. Chuck expressed his enjoyment of performing live, despite the challenges of touring as an indie artist, and emphasized the importance of camaraderie with his band members.

The conversation delved into the meaning behind Chuck's EP title, "Outcast, Among Outcasts," which reflects his feelings of disconnection from both mainstream society and the communities he identifies with, stemming from his Native American heritage. Debra acknowledged the depth this personal narrative adds to his music. Chuck also recounted his journey in music, including a hiatus after getting married and having children, and how the COVID-19 pandemic reignited his passion, leading to a successful EP release that garnered interest from Bentley Records. He discussed his spontaneous songwriting process and his belief in the interconnectedness of storytelling across various creative mediums.

Chuck shared memorable experiences from his collaborations, including a notable partnership with Cherie Currie, which highlighted the excitement of live performances. He also spoke about his work with producer Kevin Stewart Slane and guitarist Jimmy Stiff, emphasizing the growth and support he receives from respected peers in the industry. Despite facing challenges in a local music scene dominated by country and death metal acts, Chuck expressed enthusiasm for an upcoming performance as the opening act for a Doors tribute band, encouraging fans to attend.

The discussion also touched on the struggles indie artists face in gaining exposure and support from venues, with Chuck advocating for clubs to actively promote events rather than expecting bands to bring their audience. Debra and Chuck shared their thoughts on the importance of collaboration within the creative community, with Debra highlighting the role of her podcast in connecting artists. They both expressed a commitment to supporting indie musicians and fostering a more vibrant music scene. At the same time, Chuck offered practical advice for fans to support his work amidst the challenges of the music industry.

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