January 16, 2023 • 19 mins
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. not only inspired a dream, but he created a legacy that continues in the King family today. Dr. Alveda King is guarding that legacy for this generation amid turbulent times. Join the conversation as Dr. King and Teresa Janzen discuss issues of life and legacy.
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About Alveda King: Alveda C. King, PhD, serves as Chair of the America First Policy Institute’s Center for the American Dream. She is the daughter of the late slain civil rights activist Rev. A. D. King and the niece of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., as well as a Christian evangelist; graduate of Aidan University; and is founder of SPEAK FOR LIFE, and ALVEDA KING MINISTRIES (www.alvedaking.com). Dr. King is also an acclaimed author, Fox News Channel contributor, Fox Nation host, NEWSMAX blog contributor, twice elected to GA State House, past presidential appointee, 2021 recipient of the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award, and is a film and music industry veteran.
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Welcome to the RadicalAbundance Podcast.
I'm your host Teresa Janzen, andtoday I have a special guest.
I know you've heardof her before, but Dr.
Alveda King is here in theRadical Abundance Studio.
Welcome Dr.
King to radical abundance.
Good morning, Teresa and.
name of your show,Radical Abundance.
That is just absolutelymarvelous, and to have that,
(00:25):
of course we know it doesn'tnecessarily come easy, but the
rewards are just marvelous.
Absolutely.
We're all about living lifefull and free, and I know
that you are part of a biglegacy of that theme ideology.
So I wanna share withthe audience your, , bio,
because I don't know thateveryone knows everything
(00:48):
that you've been involvedin, , here's the official Dr.
Alveda King bio.
It says Alveda King is a PhD.
She serves as the Chair of theAmerica First Policy Institute
Center for the American Dream.
She is the daughter of thelate slain civil rights
activist, Reverend Ad King andthe niece of the Reverend Dr.
(01:08):
Martin Luther King Jr.
As well as a Christianevangelist graduate of
Aidan University and is thefounder of Speak For Life
and Alveda King Ministries.
She's also an acclaimedauthor, Fox News Channel
contributor, Fox Nation hostNewsmax blog contributor.
Twice elected to the GeorgiaState House passed presidential
appointee and the 2021recipient of the Presidential
(01:32):
Lifetime Achievement Award.
And that is obvious as towhy you have received that.
And also a veteran of thefilm and music industry.
And you know what?
I didn't even knowabout your history.
Within the music inindustry until I saw your
cd, your Christmas CD out.
So I learned somethingnew about you and I'm
delighted to have you on theRadical Abundance Podcast.
(01:52):
Well, thank you.
I first wrote my first songin 1974, let Freedom Ring,
and it goes on to say, thankGod that King had a dream.
And I, I wrote it to remind usnot to idolize human beings, but
when people serve God, that'snotable so that my first song
was about my uncle Reverend, Dr.
Martin Luther King Jr.
(02:13):
I've written mostlyinspirational songs, but
with one of my sons, werecorded some pop music,
and then more recently,another one of my sons.
Wrote a song, paths ofRighteousness outta Psalms 23.
So I write, I sing, Irecord, I do films as well.
And most people don'tknow that about me.
(02:34):
So thank you formentioning that.
I think that's amazing and Ilove Christmas albums I do
wanna get into exactly whatyou were just talking about,
because I imagine that beinga relative to such a famous
person like Reverend Dr.
Martin Luther King Jr.
Has benefits.
It gives you a platformfor sure, which you have
taken advantage of, andI'm glad that you have.
(02:57):
But it also, I'm surecan be a challenge.
Has that been your experience orhas it always been just a good
thing to have that legacy thatyou can come after and follow.
I am a guardian of theKing family legacy.
Martin Luther the King Jr.
Was born into ourfamily, the most famous
member of our family.
(03:17):
But we have been Christians,people who love the Lord for
many, many generations now.
And the way that Ibecame a guardian.
In every generation you have theguardian kind of personalities.
My grandmother, Alberta King,who was shot playing the organ
in 1974 in Atlanta, Georgia,on a Sunday playing the
Lord's Prayer, but she was thephotographer, the recorder.
(03:40):
The oral historianand all of that.
, in my generation, we have fourdocumentaries now that I am
participating in that talkabout the King Family legacy.
So we are Christians.
Love the Lord.
Perfect.
Absolutely not Jesus Christ.
our Lord and savioris the perfect one.
And even the pro-life stancethat we have, my grandfather
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convinced my mother notto abort me in 1950.
I had secret abortionsduring my young life, but
I was gonna abort anotherchild in the seventies.
And my granddaddy said, no, no,that's a, that's a grandson.
No.
And so I, we are aChristian family.
We love humanity.
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One blood, one humanrace, not separate races,
different ethnicities.
So that's kind of the legacythat I proclaim as a member
of the family of Reverend Dr.
Martin Luther King Jr.
My dad, Reverend A.
D.
King, his brother was a verystrong civil rights leader.
My mother today,Naomi King, still is.
(04:45):
. Well, that's a really strongfamily legacy, and you have
certainly used that for goodand have brought your own
voice and own, message to theconversation about civil rights.
And I know that a real big thingfor you is the pro-life issue.
Tell me why is that whatyou really champion?
(05:08):
Well, as I look back to timethat I was conceived in 1950 by
my parents, God had a plan and,and that's in the Bible too.
God says to, I knowthe plans I have.
For you.
They're not to hurtyou, but to bless you.
Okay?
So I, God had a plan formy life that I would be
rescued from abortion.
(05:30):
I would experience abortion.
I would have my own abortionsand experience the pain and
suffering of that and thereality that two of my children
died by abortion and one bymiscarriage because my body had
been harmed by the abortions.
Mm-hmm.
. And then I would be redeemedlike the woman at the well, and
the woman caught in the act.
And I would repent andbecome a voice for life.
(05:53):
And I know one of my uncle'squotes, he said, the Negro
cannot win if he's willingto sacrifice the futures of
his children for immediatepersonal comfort and safety.
Now, abortion was not legal.
in America, across America likeit is today during his lifetime.
But that was one of hisquotes, and he said,
injustice anywhere is athreat to justice everywhere.
(06:15):
So after I repented from allmy sins and became a born
again Christian in the early1980s, I became a voice for
life, and I still am today.
So the sanctity of life,and I actually had what many
people would call a nervousbreakdown in the, mid,
Seventies when I almost abortedanother one of my children.
(06:37):
I had had two abortions anda miscarriage was divorced
and planned Parenthoodabortion was now with Roe v.
Wade Legal in America.
And I was gonna abort achild in the mid seventies.
My granddaddy said, no,that's a, that's a grandchild.
And I saw an ultrasound.
It was, it was calleda sonogram back then.
And I realized, I saw thatlittle head, that little
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body form, that littlebeating heart, and I said,
Oh my God, they lied.
That's a baby.
And I had to getmyself together.
I bore that child.
God healed my body.
I have six living children andright now, 11 grandchildren are
looking for great-grandchildren.
One of my grandsons got married.
So I became a voice for lifewith the Bible, understanding
(07:21):
that I'm supposed to chooselife, realizing I was
lied to, and that thosewere people and hoping to
see them in heaven again.
So that's why thepro-life movement.
It is personal to me.
It helped me to produce Iwas an executive producer
on the film Roe v.
Wade.
I've done a lot ofdocumentaries for life.
(07:42):
I have an organizationSpeak for Life.
Well, I do see youhave a real personal
connection to that issue.
And then also with thelegacy of civil rights.
I've heard people saythat abortion is not
just an issue of life.
And I know we talked to,you already mentioned
there's one race, and Icompletely agree with you.
But people also see, and I thinkyou also say that this issue of
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pro-life, they seem to target.
People of color, specificallyAfrican Americans,
has that been your experience?
No.
You know that people ofcolor term or biracial
and all of that, thoseare socially politically
correct kind of terms.
Cause everybody has color.
I know we all havecolor, but that's okay.
I I understand.
Cause I have to, it's hard tohave a conversation
(08:28):
without the language.
You know, what is the,how can we find the, a
good language to use?
I agree with you.
completely just say, Hey, willyou say the black community,
the Latino community, theCaucasian community, Uhhuh.
And we look at it asvillages and communities
and ethnicity rather thanseparating us racially.
(08:48):
Cause there's only one.
Blood in one race.
So absolutely just substituteor add the word community.
When you talk about ethnicities,and I'm gonna answer your
question, but during theChristmas holiday, I posted the
brown skin nativity characters.
And boy did thatstart a conversation.
People, one man said I thinkit was a man, and he said well,
(09:12):
something's wrong with your art.
I said, what's wrong?
He says, well, Jesus was Hebrew.
I said, yeah, and I'm tryingto get as close to that
reddish brown complexionthat he would've had he
and his parents, cuz withblind hair and blue eyes.
, if they hid in Egypt,which is in Africa, at
the time, they would'vestood out, wouldn't they?
And the, and there's oneman, it might cause women and
(09:32):
men, different people wereanswering, but somebody said,
oh, I thought he was Latino.
I'm sorry.
And so I'm just laughing.
And you'll see ourrenditions of the nativity
characters as Asian,Latino, Caucasian African.
All types of things, but wewant to begin to understand
that it is not skin colorthat defines a human race.
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Those are ethnicities.
Absolutely.
Americans tend tocategorize people.
I don't know why, but we,they tend to categorize
people on what they can see,what they visualize.
There you go withlight skin, dark skin.
I'm say, what are youguys talking about?
Come great, come on now.
Cuz I'm part African, I'm partIrish and native American.
Cuz we, I did all thatDNA testing and thing.
(10:17):
Uhhuh . Me too.
I'm human.
We're all human, right?
So that's uh, the basisof some of our arguments.
, it's because we will notunderstand that and we
just add the, I use theword community rather than
that, and that will help.
And I have a bookwith Ginger Howard.
We are not colorblind.
(10:37):
If you've not read that,please read that one too.
I will.
And I'll put a link to thatone in the show notes so that
other people can pick thatup because I haven't read it.
So thank you for really helpingme with that whole conversation.
That's great.
And it's my understandingthough, that Planned Parenthood.
has put a lot of theirclinics in traditionally
black communities.
(10:59):
What you have foundtoo, unfortunately, Margaret
Sanger was a eugenicist anda racist thinking that there
was a superior Arian race.
She, along with CharlesDarwin and some others,
and so what they wantedto do was to minimize
what they called the otherracists as inferior people.
And so Margaret Sangerand Planned Parenthood.
(11:20):
Finally, right before Roe v.
Wade was sent back to theStates they found, they
admitted that MargaretSanger really was a racist.
She had spoken to the Ku KluxKlan, for example, the women
of the Klan and all of that.
So with that error, Trying tocome up with a superior race.
They targeted the blackcommunities of America and
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finally around the world withthe abortion clinics finally,
but initially with the being thebirth control league before they
became Planned Parenthood, sothey had free tubal lactations
for the women free vasectomy.
So the men there was aTuskegee project to see how
many blacks you could kill by.
Giving the men's syphilisand giving placebo
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instead of real medicine.
They came up with many waysto minimize what they call
the inferior groups of people.
And she did say somethinglike, colored people are like
weeds, but we don't want to,word to get out that we are
trying to exterminate 'em.
You know?
So these kinds of issues,it were there by the
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error of thinking that byskin color we could come
up with superior races.
. .
And you know, the real tragedythe world of so many gifts
and talents that we won'tknow so many voices that
we won't hear, and so manystories that won't be lived.
And that is tragic.
And I think that they try topresent it as a socioeconomic.
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Situation.
So we want to help your race,we wanna help your people,
don't have so many babies.
And that's the waythey designed that.
But that wasabsolutely terrible.
Mm Yeah.
It's a lie dressed up in, something that looks like
benevolence or a gift andit's absolutely not where
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can people really connectwith this issue if they wanna
find out more about this?
Where, what are some ofthe resources other than
you've mentioned one book.
That's fabulous.
What other resources doyou have for people if you
come to alveda king.com?
I have a, a store.
That has, I've written over30 books on many subjects,
but most of them touch on theissues of life, the sanctity
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of life from the womb tothe tomb to into eternity.
So that's a good place tostart there at the store.
And I'm not just promotethis cuz I need you to buy
my products or anythinglike that, but there's a
lot of information there.
And civil rights for the unborn.
I was at Priest for Lifefor 16 years and I think
civil rights for the unborn.
(13:53):
Page is still there.
Civil rights for the unborn.orgor civil rights for the
unborn.com Speak for Life ismy own pro-life ministry and
it is developing, even now.
It just started in 2021and so there, but alveda
king.com, there are articles,there's information and it's.
(14:17):
Not just pro-life for let'ssave the babies in the womb.
We definitely have to dothat, but from the womb
to the tomb into eternity.
So if you talk to alvedaking.com, that's a
good place to start.
I'm really glad that youmentioned that because I
think there is a, A littlebit of a rising issue coming
(14:38):
up about the, the elderly.
Mm-hmm.
. And you mentioned thewomb to the tomb and this
idea of euthanasia andeuthanasia being a kindness.
What is your position on that?
I haven't heard,well, I'll use my own
mother as an example, a fewyears ago, mom's 91 now.
. I think she wasin her seventies.
That means I would'vebeen in my fifties.
And she had a laceration on herleg and it was very painful.
(15:01):
It wouldn't heal.
We get to the hospital, but theyput her on morphine and things
like that and they says, well,let's, we can just make her
comfortable and ease her pain.
And they were gonna try toreally euthanize her cause
they just said that shewasn't gonna really be able
to live a productive life.
And now mom's 91.
Wow.
(15:22):
So I was encouraged to kindaeuthanize her and get her
into hospice and we just,no, and, and it was really
not even funny, but one of mydaughters at the time said,
let's get up out of here.
And she went by the drugstore.
She bought some neosporinand some peroxide, poured
the peroxide on the woundand kept the neosporin.
(15:42):
And five days later thethings started to, to
dry up and stop hurting.
, amazing.
courage to get her my motherinto hospice and keep her
as comfortable as possible.
And it just simple first aidcare, basic care that
at that time now thereare more serious cases.
I understand that I'm notmaking light, but there is
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value in every human life,in every stage of life.
And I read about a couplerecently who had been very
pro-life and she had a.
Difficult pregnancy andshe and her husband are now
spokespersons for abortion.
Cuz if I had a boy, now they'resaying that if they had had
the abortion, the baby wouldn'thave suffered through that
(16:23):
experience, life experience,and they wouldn't have and
this, that and the other.
But abortion honestlydoesn't solve problems.
It just gives us other problems.
It really does.
And so some people willsay, well, I had one
that didn't bother me.
And then we found one lady thatsaid that for many years, and
she was in a nursing home andshe was in a fetal position and
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she was unconsolable and a nursewhispered in her ear, ma'am,
have you ever had an abortion?
And the lady started to trembleit, almost like seizures.
And she was shakingand everything and she
began to unbend herself.
And yes, and the nurse wasable to console her, pray
with her, assure her that shewould see her child again.
And that lady came outtathat fetal comatose state.
(17:08):
So, it took her all thoseyears to put the two together.
And so sometimes, cuz youknow, in initially I thought
I was fine until I really,that born again experience.
So from the seventiesuntil the early eighties,
I thought I was okay.
I had two abortions and amiscarriages and I was what
I called happy go lucky.
(17:29):
So I, it is just usuallythat's denial when people
say, oh, it was great.
I'm glad I did it.
Let's celebrate the abortion.
No.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do know, and I reallyappreciate you being so open and
honest about your own past tohistory with abortion because
it lets people know this isn'tcoming from a place of, of.
(17:49):
Piety or yourself,anything else just
says, no, it's not.
Yeah, it's a, it's a realplace of love and caring.
I can hear that in your voiceand a place of humility too.
Thank you.
You know, there'sno judgment here.
There's hope, there'san encouragement to be
strong and courageous.
Yes, yes, yes.
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Yeah.
I really appreciate that.
I know our time really is up,so I'm gonna just give you the
mic for this last little bit.
You tell us whatever messageyou think the radical
abundance needs to hear today.
I want you to join Teresa herfamily, her audience says, And
get as much information out.
Ask God to bless ourperspectives where we are not
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negative or bitter or afraid.
Please, fear not.
And if you have anopportunity to do a blog or
a podcast yourself as you'relistening, please do it.
And you says, well, Idon't know so many people.
There might be one personwaiting to hear from you.
So support Teresa.
Support Alveda.
Support all of us and join us.
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Add your voice, speak forlife, liberty, the pursuit
of happiness from the wombto the tomb into eternity.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Thank you, Dr.
King for joining us on radicalAbundance, and I wish you
a radically abundant day.
You too.
Thank you.
Welcome to the RadicalAbundance Podcast.
I'm your host Teresa Janzen, andtoday I have a special guest.
I know you've heardof her before, but Dr.
Alveda King is here in theRadical Abundance Studio.
Welcome Dr.
King to radical abundance.
Good morning, Teresa and.
name of your show,Radical Abundance.
That is just absolutelymarvelous, and to have that,
(00:25):
of course we know it doesn'tnecessarily come easy, but the
rewards are just marvelous.
Absolutely.
We're all about living lifefull and free, and I know
that you are part of a biglegacy of that theme ideology.
So I wanna share withthe audience your, , bio,
because I don't know thateveryone knows everything
(00:48):
that you've been involvedin, , here's the official Dr.
Alveda King bio.
It says Alveda King is a PhD.
She serves as the Chair of theAmerica First Policy Institute
Center for the American Dream.
She is the daughter of thelate slain civil rights
activist, Reverend Ad King andthe niece of the Reverend Dr.
(01:08):
Martin Luther King Jr.
As well as a Christianevangelist graduate of
Aidan University and is thefounder of Speak For Life
and Alveda King Ministries.
She's also an acclaimedauthor, Fox News Channel
contributor, Fox Nation hostNewsmax blog contributor.
Twice elected to the GeorgiaState House passed presidential
appointee and the 2021recipient of the Presidential
(01:32):
Lifetime Achievement Award.
And that is obvious as towhy you have received that.
And also a veteran of thefilm and music industry.
And you know what?
I didn't even knowabout your history.
Within the music inindustry until I saw your
cd, your Christmas CD out.
So I learned somethingnew about you and I'm
delighted to have you on theRadical Abundance Podcast.
(01:52):
Well, thank you.
I first wrote my first songin 1974, let Freedom Ring,
and it goes on to say, thankGod that King had a dream.
And I, I wrote it to remind usnot to idolize human beings, but
when people serve God, that'snotable so that my first song
was about my uncle Reverend, Dr.
Martin Luther King Jr.
(02:13):
I've written mostlyinspirational songs, but
with one of my sons, werecorded some pop music,
and then more recently,another one of my sons.
Wrote a song, paths ofRighteousness outta Psalms 23.
So I write, I sing, Irecord, I do films as well.
And most people don'tknow that about me.
(02:34):
So thank you formentioning that.
I think that's amazing and Ilove Christmas albums I do
wanna get into exactly whatyou were just talking about,
because I imagine that beinga relative to such a famous
person like Reverend Dr.
Martin Luther King Jr.
Has benefits.
It gives you a platformfor sure, which you have
taken advantage of, andI'm glad that you have.
(02:57):
But it also, I'm surecan be a challenge.
Has that been your experience orhas it always been just a good
thing to have that legacy thatyou can come after and follow.
I am a guardian of theKing family legacy.
Martin Luther the King Jr.
Was born into ourfamily, the most famous
member of our family.
(03:17):
But we have been Christians,people who love the Lord for
many, many generations now.
And the way that Ibecame a guardian.
In every generation you have theguardian kind of personalities.
My grandmother, Alberta King,who was shot playing the organ
in 1974 in Atlanta, Georgia,on a Sunday playing the
Lord's Prayer, but she was thephotographer, the recorder.
(03:40):
The oral historianand all of that.
, in my generation, we have fourdocumentaries now that I am
participating in that talkabout the King Family legacy.
So we are Christians.
Love the Lord.
Perfect.
Absolutely not Jesus Christ.
our Lord and savioris the perfect one.
And even the pro-life stancethat we have, my grandfather
(04:04):
convinced my mother notto abort me in 1950.
I had secret abortionsduring my young life, but
I was gonna abort anotherchild in the seventies.
And my granddaddy said, no, no,that's a, that's a grandson.
No.
And so I, we are aChristian family.
We love humanity.
(04:24):
One blood, one humanrace, not separate races,
different ethnicities.
So that's kind of the legacythat I proclaim as a member
of the family of Reverend Dr.
Martin Luther King Jr.
My dad, Reverend A.
D.
King, his brother was a verystrong civil rights leader.
My mother today,Naomi King, still is.
(04:45):
. Well, that's a really strongfamily legacy, and you have
certainly used that for goodand have brought your own
voice and own, message to theconversation about civil rights.
And I know that a real big thingfor you is the pro-life issue.
Tell me why is that whatyou really champion?
(05:08):
Well, as I look back to timethat I was conceived in 1950 by
my parents, God had a plan and,and that's in the Bible too.
God says to, I knowthe plans I have.
For you.
They're not to hurtyou, but to bless you.
Okay?
So I, God had a plan formy life that I would be
rescued from abortion.
(05:30):
I would experience abortion.
I would have my own abortionsand experience the pain and
suffering of that and thereality that two of my children
died by abortion and one bymiscarriage because my body had
been harmed by the abortions.
Mm-hmm.
. And then I would be redeemedlike the woman at the well, and
the woman caught in the act.
And I would repent andbecome a voice for life.
(05:53):
And I know one of my uncle'squotes, he said, the Negro
cannot win if he's willingto sacrifice the futures of
his children for immediatepersonal comfort and safety.
Now, abortion was not legal.
in America, across America likeit is today during his lifetime.
But that was one of hisquotes, and he said,
injustice anywhere is athreat to justice everywhere.
(06:15):
So after I repented from allmy sins and became a born
again Christian in the early1980s, I became a voice for
life, and I still am today.
So the sanctity of life,and I actually had what many
people would call a nervousbreakdown in the, mid,
Seventies when I almost abortedanother one of my children.
(06:37):
I had had two abortions anda miscarriage was divorced
and planned Parenthoodabortion was now with Roe v.
Wade Legal in America.
And I was gonna abort achild in the mid seventies.
My granddaddy said, no,that's a, that's a grandchild.
And I saw an ultrasound.
It was, it was calleda sonogram back then.
And I realized, I saw thatlittle head, that little
(06:58):
body form, that littlebeating heart, and I said,
Oh my God, they lied.
That's a baby.
And I had to getmyself together.
I bore that child.
God healed my body.
I have six living children andright now, 11 grandchildren are
looking for great-grandchildren.
One of my grandsons got married.
So I became a voice for lifewith the Bible, understanding
(07:21):
that I'm supposed to chooselife, realizing I was
lied to, and that thosewere people and hoping to
see them in heaven again.
So that's why thepro-life movement.
It is personal to me.
It helped me to produce Iwas an executive producer
on the film Roe v.
Wade.
I've done a lot ofdocumentaries for life.
(07:42):
I have an organizationSpeak for Life.
Well, I do see youhave a real personal
connection to that issue.
And then also with thelegacy of civil rights.
I've heard people saythat abortion is not
just an issue of life.
And I know we talked to,you already mentioned
there's one race, and Icompletely agree with you.
But people also see, and I thinkyou also say that this issue of
(08:06):
pro-life, they seem to target.
People of color, specificallyAfrican Americans,
has that been your experience?
No.
You know that people ofcolor term or biracial
and all of that, thoseare socially politically
correct kind of terms.
Cause everybody has color.
I know we all havecolor, but that's okay.
I I understand.
Cause I have to, it's hard tohave a conversation
(08:28):
without the language.
You know, what is the,how can we find the, a
good language to use?
I agree with you.
completely just say, Hey, willyou say the black community,
the Latino community, theCaucasian community, Uhhuh.
And we look at it asvillages and communities
and ethnicity rather thanseparating us racially.
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Cause there's only one.
Blood in one race.
So absolutely just substituteor add the word community.
When you talk about ethnicities,and I'm gonna answer your
question, but during theChristmas holiday, I posted the
brown skin nativity characters.
And boy did thatstart a conversation.
People, one man said I thinkit was a man, and he said well,
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something's wrong with your art.
I said, what's wrong?
He says, well, Jesus was Hebrew.
I said, yeah, and I'm tryingto get as close to that
reddish brown complexionthat he would've had he
and his parents, cuz withblind hair and blue eyes.
, if they hid in Egypt,which is in Africa, at
the time, they would'vestood out, wouldn't they?
And the, and there's oneman, it might cause women and
(09:32):
men, different people wereanswering, but somebody said,
oh, I thought he was Latino.
I'm sorry.
And so I'm just laughing.
And you'll see ourrenditions of the nativity
characters as Asian,Latino, Caucasian African.
All types of things, but wewant to begin to understand
that it is not skin colorthat defines a human race.
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Those are ethnicities.
Absolutely.
Americans tend tocategorize people.
I don't know why, but we,they tend to categorize
people on what they can see,what they visualize.
There you go withlight skin, dark skin.
I'm say, what are youguys talking about?
Come great, come on now.
Cuz I'm part African, I'm partIrish and native American.
Cuz we, I did all thatDNA testing and thing.
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Uhhuh . Me too.
I'm human.
We're all human, right?
So that's uh, the basisof some of our arguments.
, it's because we will notunderstand that and we
just add the, I use theword community rather than
that, and that will help.
And I have a bookwith Ginger Howard.
We are not colorblind.
(10:37):
If you've not read that,please read that one too.
I will.
And I'll put a link to thatone in the show notes so that
other people can pick thatup because I haven't read it.
So thank you for really helpingme with that whole conversation.
That's great.
And it's my understandingthough, that Planned Parenthood.
has put a lot of theirclinics in traditionally
black communities.
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What you have foundtoo, unfortunately, Margaret
Sanger was a eugenicist anda racist thinking that there
was a superior Arian race.
She, along with CharlesDarwin and some others,
and so what they wantedto do was to minimize
what they called the otherracists as inferior people.
And so Margaret Sangerand Planned Parenthood.
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Finally, right before Roe v.
Wade was sent back to theStates they found, they
admitted that MargaretSanger really was a racist.
She had spoken to the Ku KluxKlan, for example, the women
of the Klan and all of that.
So with that error, Trying tocome up with a superior race.
They targeted the blackcommunities of America and
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finally around the world withthe abortion clinics finally,
but initially with the being thebirth control league before they
became Planned Parenthood, sothey had free tubal lactations
for the women free vasectomy.
So the men there was aTuskegee project to see how
many blacks you could kill by.
Giving the men's syphilisand giving placebo
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instead of real medicine.
They came up with many waysto minimize what they call
the inferior groups of people.
And she did say somethinglike, colored people are like
weeds, but we don't want to,word to get out that we are
trying to exterminate 'em.
You know?
So these kinds of issues,it were there by the
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error of thinking that byskin color we could come
up with superior races.
. .
And you know, the real tragedythe world of so many gifts
and talents that we won'tknow so many voices that
we won't hear, and so manystories that won't be lived.
And that is tragic.
And I think that they try topresent it as a socioeconomic.
(12:49):
Situation.
So we want to help your race,we wanna help your people,
don't have so many babies.
And that's the waythey designed that.
But that wasabsolutely terrible.
Mm Yeah.
It's a lie dressed up in, something that looks like
benevolence or a gift andit's absolutely not where
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can people really connectwith this issue if they wanna
find out more about this?
Where, what are some ofthe resources other than
you've mentioned one book.
That's fabulous.
What other resources doyou have for people if you
come to alveda king.com?
I have a, a store.
That has, I've written over30 books on many subjects,
but most of them touch on theissues of life, the sanctity
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of life from the womb tothe tomb to into eternity.
So that's a good place tostart there at the store.
And I'm not just promotethis cuz I need you to buy
my products or anythinglike that, but there's a
lot of information there.
And civil rights for the unborn.
I was at Priest for Lifefor 16 years and I think
civil rights for the unborn.
(13:53):
Page is still there.
Civil rights for the unborn.orgor civil rights for the
unborn.com Speak for Life ismy own pro-life ministry and
it is developing, even now.
It just started in 2021and so there, but alveda
king.com, there are articles,there's information and it's.
(14:17):
Not just pro-life for let'ssave the babies in the womb.
We definitely have to dothat, but from the womb
to the tomb into eternity.
So if you talk to alvedaking.com, that's a
good place to start.
I'm really glad that youmentioned that because I
think there is a, A littlebit of a rising issue coming
(14:38):
up about the, the elderly.
Mm-hmm.
. And you mentioned thewomb to the tomb and this
idea of euthanasia andeuthanasia being a kindness.
What is your position on that?
I haven't heard,well, I'll use my own
mother as an example, a fewyears ago, mom's 91 now.
. I think she wasin her seventies.
That means I would'vebeen in my fifties.
And she had a laceration on herleg and it was very painful.
(15:01):
It wouldn't heal.
We get to the hospital, but theyput her on morphine and things
like that and they says, well,let's, we can just make her
comfortable and ease her pain.
And they were gonna try toreally euthanize her cause
they just said that shewasn't gonna really be able
to live a productive life.
And now mom's 91.
Wow.
(15:22):
So I was encouraged to kindaeuthanize her and get her
into hospice and we just,no, and, and it was really
not even funny, but one of mydaughters at the time said,
let's get up out of here.
And she went by the drugstore.
She bought some neosporinand some peroxide, poured
the peroxide on the woundand kept the neosporin.
(15:42):
And five days later thethings started to, to
dry up and stop hurting.
, amazing.
courage to get her my motherinto hospice and keep her
as comfortable as possible.
And it just simple first aidcare, basic care that
at that time now thereare more serious cases.
I understand that I'm notmaking light, but there is
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value in every human life,in every stage of life.
And I read about a couplerecently who had been very
pro-life and she had a.
Difficult pregnancy andshe and her husband are now
spokespersons for abortion.
Cuz if I had a boy, now they'resaying that if they had had
the abortion, the baby wouldn'thave suffered through that
(16:23):
experience, life experience,and they wouldn't have and
this, that and the other.
But abortion honestlydoesn't solve problems.
It just gives us other problems.
It really does.
And so some people willsay, well, I had one
that didn't bother me.
And then we found one lady thatsaid that for many years, and
she was in a nursing home andshe was in a fetal position and
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she was unconsolable and a nursewhispered in her ear, ma'am,
have you ever had an abortion?
And the lady started to trembleit, almost like seizures.
And she was shakingand everything and she
began to unbend herself.
And yes, and the nurse wasable to console her, pray
with her, assure her that shewould see her child again.
And that lady came outtathat fetal comatose state.
(17:08):
So, it took her all thoseyears to put the two together.
And so sometimes, cuz youknow, in initially I thought
I was fine until I really,that born again experience.
So from the seventiesuntil the early eighties,
I thought I was okay.
I had two abortions and amiscarriages and I was what
I called happy go lucky.
(17:29):
So I, it is just usuallythat's denial when people
say, oh, it was great.
I'm glad I did it.
Let's celebrate the abortion.
No.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do know, and I reallyappreciate you being so open and
honest about your own past tohistory with abortion because
it lets people know this isn'tcoming from a place of, of.
(17:49):
Piety or yourself,anything else just
says, no, it's not.
Yeah, it's a, it's a realplace of love and caring.
I can hear that in your voiceand a place of humility too.
Thank you.
You know, there'sno judgment here.
There's hope, there'san encouragement to be
strong and courageous.
Yes, yes, yes.
(18:10):
Yeah.
I really appreciate that.
I know our time really is up,so I'm gonna just give you the
mic for this last little bit.
You tell us whatever messageyou think the radical
abundance needs to hear today.
I want you to join Teresa herfamily, her audience says, And
get as much information out.
Ask God to bless ourperspectives where we are not
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negative or bitter or afraid.
Please, fear not.
And if you have anopportunity to do a blog or
a podcast yourself as you'relistening, please do it.
And you says, well, Idon't know so many people.
There might be one personwaiting to hear from you.
So support Teresa.
Support Alveda.
Support all of us and join us.
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Add your voice, speak forlife, liberty, the pursuit
of happiness from the wombto the tomb into eternity.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Thank you, Dr.
King for joining us on radicalAbundance, and I wish you
a radically abundant day.
You too.
Thank you.
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