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March 2, 2025 45 mins

In this episode of Radio Cloud Native, former host John Jainschigg, Director of Open Source Initiatives for Mirantis, returns to proctor a great interview with Zero Trust pioneer George Finney, CSO at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, TX. George is the author of the recent IT-cybersecurity thriller Project Zero Trust with a forward written by Zero Trust founder John Kindervag (note - mentions of "John" during this interview is in reference to John Kindervag). The book is available in print form on Amazon and in audio book form on Audible. You can access the Amazon links in this episode's chapters.

During the interview, John Jainschigg and George Finney discuss the exciting opening to Project Zero Trust before jumping into an informative discussion about how the novel provides an actionable framework for the "Zero Trust Model" of cybersecurity - one that can actually be implemented in existing enterprise architectures. Zero Trust is not a specific package or set of tools, but rather an overall way of thinking that can help any IT professional who is concerned with the security of their applications (spoiler: that's every IT professional).

A full list of what's discussed in the interview:

  • Meet George Finney, author of Project Zero Trust
  • Quick synopsis of Project Zero Trust
  • "Trust" as a vulnerability (courtesy of Zero Trust founder John Kindervag)
  • Project Zero Trust - a true IT cybersecurity guide
  • Implementing a "Zero Trust" framework
  • Zero Trust and its connection to Cloud
  • Public vs Private Cloud - in terms of security
  • "Trusting" components in production
  • Actionable steps for implementing "Zero Trust" in the enterprise


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