Is The Elite Mental Game Really Worth It? These Parents Answer Honestly

Is mental training for young athletes actually worth it? If you’ve tried pep talks, advice, or even therapy and still feel stuck, this episode brings you real parent stories that lay it all out. Hear how two families faced mental struggles, found new tools, and saw their athletes regain confidence and love for their sports.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

• How common parenting pep talks might be doing more harm than good
• Why including parents in mental training makes a big difference
• How hesitant teens can be gently introduced to mental skills
• What real confidence looks like beyond "just be confident"
• Creative ways busy athletes fit mental training into their day
• The power of live community calls and coach texting support
• Differences between mental training and therapy approaches
• How these mental skills also help in non-sport performance areas
• What the no-risk, two-week trial means for families trying it out

Curious about the honest ups and downs these parents experienced? Ready to hear how mental training brought peace, focus, and fun back to their families?

Listen to the full episode now. You won’t want to miss a minute!

Episode Highlights: 

[00:00] Introduction to Real Parent Stories. Two parents share honest experiences about how the Elite Mental Game program helped their daughters overcome mental struggles in sports.

[00:01:00] Chris’s Daughter’s Mental Challenges. Chris talks about her 15-year-old volleyball player who used to break down in tears at tournaments and how traditional pep talks made things worse.

[00:01:30] Carlos’s Daughter Nearly Quitting Gymnastics. Carlos shares his daughter’s loss of confidence and how nothing was working until they joined the program.

[00:06:00] Presenting the Program to Teens. Chris and Carlos discuss their approaches to getting their daughters on board without making it feel like something was wrong.

[00:12:30] Overcoming Mental Blocks and Shifting Mindset. Carlos shares how his daughter went from struggling with confidence to trusting herself and enjoying her sport again.

[00:22:00] How Mental Training Fits Busy Schedules. The parents describe how their daughters fit 15-60 minutes of mental training into their busy days, including during car rides and before practices.

[00:46:00] What Parents Gain from the Program. The program helps parents redefine their role, to support without over-coaching or pressuring, and improves family communication.

[00:52:00] Mental Training vs. Therapy and Other Programs. Carlos explains how previous therapy didn’t help but the practical, tool-focused approach of this program did.

[00:58:00] Easy Getting Started and Lifetime Access. Athletes get clear, self-paced steps to begin, plus lifetime access to materials and parent support communities.

[01:01:00] Recap: Building Trust, Confidence, and Joy. Mental training builds trusting self-confidence, equips for challenges, and helps athletes enjoy their sport, while parents learn effective support.

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• Join our FREE Training for Sports Moms - How to Strengthen Your Athlete Daughter's Mental Game so She Believes in Herself as Much as You Do
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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Welcome back to the RaisingElite Competitors podcast.

(00:03):
I'm Coach Bre, a mentalperformance coach for girl
athletes, and I'm so excitedyou're here for a really special
episode.
I actually got to sit down withtwo parents of athletes who have
gone through.
Our program, the Elite MentalGame.
Now this is our signatureself-paced mental training
program for girl athletes,designed for girl athletes age

(00:24):
12 to 18 to help them level uptheir mental game so they get
more confident and play theirsport to their potential, enjoy
their sport.
Again, and I know a lot of youare just curious, like what,
what do we actually do in theprogram?
What skills do athletes learnand what results.
Can actually happen.
And so I got to sit down withChris and Carlos who got to lay

(00:48):
it all out from a, like a realperspective of this is how it
worked for our family.
So you hear from Chris, she's amom of six who's 15-year-old
daughter played volleyball andshe used to spiral into tears at
almost every tournament.
And the pep talks that Chris washoping would land things like
shake it off and you got thenext one only made things worse.

(01:11):
But after starting EMG.
Chris says this has been theirmost peaceful season yet no
meltdowns.
Just a confident athlete who nowuses her snapback routine and
even applies the breathingtwirls outside of sports, which
is pretty awesome.
You're also gonna meet Carlos.
He's a dad of three whose levelnine gymnast daughter went from
loving her sport to nearlyquitting.
And nothing.

(01:31):
He tried quotes, pep talks, eventherapy seemed to help.
And she finally told him, pleasestop.
This isn't working.
And so they joined EMG, andwithin weeks of joining, she
overcame a mental block, startedsmiling again, and told her Dad,
I actually enjoy my sport again.
So these are real parents.
With real athletes seeing realchange, and I cannot wait for

(01:52):
you to listen to their stories.
So without further ado, enjoythis panel conversation with
Chris and Carlos.
Okay.
Welcome moms and dads, to ourpanel.
So if you are just wondering alittle bit about like, you know,
EMG sounds great.
Maybe you've been hearing aboutit over this past week.
You've been to a live training,but you're like, I just wanna

(02:13):
hear it from somebody who hasbeen through it.
Well, this is for you.
So, in a second I'll have Chrisintroduce herself, Carlos as
well, but maybe Carlos just inthe chat, if we can't get audio
to figure to connect, just sothat you can get some i an idea
of, you know, actual parents whohave been through it, who are
using this with their athletesand kinda understanding what the

(02:33):
results are that they'regetting.
So let's get going.
Chris, I will have you introduceyourself first.
Tell us a little bit, about yourdaughter, her age, sports that
she plays.
If you have more than oneathlete, give us the dates.
Awesome.
Well, we actually have six kids.
So one that I joined this for isour last one.
All the rest I have launched andthey're out doing their own.

(02:55):
We have one in college playing,college, baseball.
But my daughter that I joinedthis for was, she's 15.
She was just going into a newclub season and I've just been
playing volleyball for six orseven years.
And, I just felt like I neededto be proactive.
I felt like this was going to bea tough, mental season for her.
Mm-hmm.
Um, she was being pulled up.

(03:16):
She should have been playing inlike 15 sixteens and rumor was
she was going to be pulled up tothe eighteens.
Oh.
Um, And, we just were concernedthat maybe there were some
personality challenges that shewas gonna have in this coaching
season.
So we were trying to beproactive.
And I also had recognized frompast seasons that the more I'm
like giving these pep talks andthese encouragement and things,

(03:36):
it seemed like it did theopposite of help.
And so I was like, okay, I needsome help here.
Mm-hmm.
I didn't know there was anyprogram out there that helped
with the mom.
And so, I was just starting tolook for mental performance
coaching for her.
She had done a short program inthe past.
And, so when I came onto thisone, I was like, oh my gosh,
this is so good.
I need help and how tocommunicate with my daughter

(03:58):
because I, I knew it just frompast experience that whatever I
was doing wasn't working.
Mm-hmm.
And so I stumbled onto thisprogram.
He had some like free,information or free training,
that you had put out there.
And we were just going into, Ican't remember if it's just a
tournament or a game, but wewere going into something and I
was like, I'm gonna try thesecouple little tips you had.
Yeah.
And I noticed right off the bat,that I'll have more peace and

(04:22):
that she responded differently.
So, then we, I took the nextstep to, to join.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's great.
Can't wait to hear like kind ofhow this story unfolds, but I
love that you started from yourside because that is a unique,
we always talk about like, ourapproach to mental training is a
little bit different than whatyou would typically see in this
like, mental toughness, mentalperformance space.

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And one of the ways that it isdifferent is that we include the
parent and because what you sayand your body language and
really like your support foryour athlete impacts your
confidence.
And so I love that you startedwith yourself and you know, just
even those tweaks make a bigdifference For sure.
Cool.
All right, Carlos, if you wanna,drop in, like how many kiddos do

(05:03):
you have?
What sports do they play?
I love that we have a dad on aswell, because that's one of the
top questions that we get islike, how do I get my husband on
board?
Or like, I am totally in, butlike, I'm trying to kind of show
the value to my partner or myspouse.
So, so happy that you're here,Carlos.
But, yeah, we'll work with whatwe got.
Cool.
So Chris, you mentioned that,you kinda stumbled across it,

(05:25):
your daughter was, you werehonestly being a little bit
proactive.
Can you explain a little bitmore about what you were
noticing in her that made youthink like, this might be a
good, I know you shared a littlebit already, but kind of paint
us the picture, again, of like,where were you at?
Yeah.
So, my daughter is reallyindependent and like
self-driven, and her attitudeis, I got this, I got this.

(05:49):
Um, but we've noticed this inthe past that she just takes a
lot of the mental, the mental,um, um, well, one, one person
had recognized she has like,grace for everybody else and
zero for herself.
Mm-hmm.
And so in past seasons, we wouldsee her like, take any mistake
of the team, like it was all onher and all her fault.
And then she would spiral.

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And then pretty much everytournament would, at some point
she would be in tears.
And, and she's just verycompetitive and stuff.
So when we started looking atthis program, I was like, I, she
just really, she's really gonnabe playing like high, higher
level.
Mm-hmm.
And, I wanted her to besupported in a way that I just
felt like it wasn't, it wasn'tgonna come from me.

(06:29):
Mm-hmm.
She needed some skills that shewasn't gonna hear from me.
And so, when she startedlistening to a little bit and
she was hesitant.
She was resistant.
We'll probably get into itlater, like just how I
approached it with her.
Yeah, that's my next question.
But I noticed, yeah.
So I noticed with her that, shejust seemed lighter and she
seemed more confident.
She's not a real, you know, shedoesn't communicate, she doesn't
share and gush and all these,like, I feel like this.

(06:51):
And I feel like that you justhave to really like, watch her
body language and she willshare.
But it will come at her own, youknow, at her own pace I guess.
But, uh, she would just, shewould share things about how she
was applying the differentthings that she was learning on
her own.
And I had peace'cause I feltlike I didn't have to force it.
Like I would take the thingsthat you would talk about or in

(07:12):
the Facebook, the group.
Or the text.
I love the text.
So text support that comes outwith just little nuggets.
And it was just little thingsthat I would, um, use and I
would apply.
Mm-hmm.
And I would notice her almostlike, she would relax, like, oh,
good mom's not gonna gimme alecture, or everything's not a
lesson, or everything is just bepositive.
Or you, you know, like all thethings that I was saying you

(07:33):
would say, like in your stopsaying, just shake it off.
I was like, oh my gosh.
I say that all the time.
Which is not necessarily bad,but it's just not really like,
super helpful.
Yeah.
And that's exactly what I saw.
I was like off, you know, like,why does she not seem to be
receiving my encouragement?
Well, and um, and then I stoppeddoing it.

(07:53):
It was like she just, sheapplied the tools you were
giving her like the Snapbackroutine.
And I would hear her say thesethings to her coach, like.
One of my goals is, you know,for this tournament is to,
really apply my snapbackroutine.
And like, I would just overhearlike her thoughts and her
comments mm-hmm.
And we would see it.
We're almost at the end of clubseason.
She hasn't had one meltdown.
She's, and she's had some reallytough situations.

(08:16):
And she just, it's like, it justrolls.
Like she's shaking it off.
Without me harping on her aboutit.
Like, but she's using the tools.
She's referenced the breathingtechnique.
She's, mentioned thevisualization.
Like I see her doing the thingson the way to tournaments.
I give her space afterwardsbecause I'm like, I don't need
to fill all the space with allthe questions afterwards.

(08:37):
Like, she needs to just be ableto process how much she wants to
talk.
So, I mean, I could probably goon for hours.
I love this program so much.
Like, I feel like this hasprobably been her toughest
season of volleyball.
And she's had, you know, like Isaid, she's had some tough stuff
in the past, but this has beendefinitely a tough season in
different areas.
But I feel like in a lot of waysthis has been our most peaceful
season.

(08:57):
Because she has some tools.
I have some tools going into it,so, yeah.
Oh my gosh.
And that's the ultimate thing.
Like just that feeling of peace,that no, you can't control the
challenges, you know, thecoaches, the teammates, the
situation she's going to be in,but to be able to be at peace
knowing like she's got the toolsto handle it.
Like that's where it's at.
Okay, let's see.
We've got a couple of things,but to ask you.

(09:18):
But first, Carlos, any, anyluck?
I mean, can, can you hear menow?
Oh my gosh, yes.
Sorry about this.
I'm not an IT expert, so sorryabout this.
It's okay.
You don't need to be.
Well, I'm so happy that we canhear your voice.
So yeah, Carlos, will you pleaseintroduce yourself?
How many kiddos you have, whatsports they play.
Yes.
So thank you.

(09:39):
Thank you for being patient withme.
Yeah.
So, uh, my name is Carlos.
I'm originally from Mexico.
I have three kids, threedaughters.
Two of them are gymnast.
The other one is practicingvolleyball.
The reason that I learn and tryto join this program is try to
be some kind of support to myoldest daughter.

(10:00):
She's a gymnast level nine mm.
And she was struggling withconfidence.
Yeah.
So that's the main reason,trying to help a little bit with
something to improve herconfidence.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think that's a perfectrepresentation of where most
parents are right now.
And it's interesting becauseyour athlete themselves probably
wouldn't articulate it that way.

(10:21):
Who would be like, I'mstruggling with confidence, but
like, as a parent, you're like,yeah, that's what it's, yes.
We, we were noticing something,something was not okay.
One of the puzzle was notmatching.
Mm-hmm.
She went from being an amazinglevel three, level seven, level
eight.
Suddenly when she, jumped tolevel nine.

(10:41):
Gymnastics, something happened.
Mm-hmm.
And she was disconnected.
She was a totally differentathlete.
So we try, I tried to give hersome advice, trying to work with
some, uh, quotes, some uhphrases, some breath talk.
Nothing works, nothing.
Mm-hmm.
The reason to start diggingabout, different programs, about

(11:04):
this program was when she askedme, to stop doing whatever was I
was doing, that I'm not surewhatever you are doing is not
working, please stop, don't doit anymore.
Mm-hmm.
So it was like a big red flagfor me.
Yeah.
I said, okay, what whatever I'mdoing is not working is actually
worsening everything.
So I need to try a differentstory.

(11:25):
Yeah.
Okay.
That's great.
I mean, I'm glad she feltcomfortable articulating and
telling you that.
And I'm excited to get into yourstory because we've gotten some
awesome texts from yourdaughter, as she's going through
the program.
So, yeah.
But I do wanna ask both of you,so you're both like in the spot
where you're recognizing we needto do something different.
She needs tools, you know,whether it's confidence, getting

(11:46):
over a mental block, like whatwe're doing is not actually
helping.
So you're there, but now you'rekind of faced with this, how do
I present it to her?
And I know a lot of parents arein this situation too.
They're like, I know that thisis the missing piece, but you
know, I've got a teen or I'vegot a tween.
And while I'll say most athleteslike take well to the program
and do awesome, you know, wealso are like, how do I present

(12:06):
it to her in a way that makes itnot seem like something's wrong
with her?
So, Chris, I'll start with you.
I just wanna ask like, how didyou present the program?
Did you just have her jump in?
Did you talk to her about itbefore?
And then Carlos, I'll hear fromyou.
So I actually wrestled with thattoo because, so much of what
Carlos said really resonatedwith me too about seeing the
differences.
And I didn't want it to presentit to her, like, just like you

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said about like, some, I thinksomething's wrong with you, this
is gonna fix you or something.
And I was really, concernedabout that.
So the way I approached it withher is, so we actually
homeschool.
Mm-hmm.
And so I presented it to her asjust something I wanted to
explore and add into ourcurriculum for the year,
regarding mental health.
Mm-hmm.
That I felt like, like it mayhave some mental health tools
and for the sports season.

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And so I presented it to herthat we were gonna both explore
this for like two weeks, checkit out, see if we felt like it
had value and then go fromthere.
So I gave her an out, I waslike, yeah, if we don't really
feel like it's working, and Iwas already like, I'm doing it
like for me.
Even if you were like, I don'twant it.
Yeah.
She did.
So at first she was kind ofhesitant.
She did a couple of the lessonsthat were in there.
She kind of did it.

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And then next thing I know, wewere like in, we were driving
and she had brought her laptopwith us and I could hear one of
your, it was a podcast orsomething, but she jumped on and
she was just doing it herself.
And then I think I have neveractually had to say, Hey, are
you doing that?
I will see her or see her, thezooms on Sundays, like she just
jumped in and, but that, I justpresented it like a two weeks.

(13:32):
Let's give this a two week run.
Mm-hmm.
Explore it, see if you get somevalue out of it.
If not, we won't continue.
Yeah.
And.
And she, like I said, she washesitant at first, but then she
has been running with it.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
That's great.
I love that, that how, how youpresented it.
And, we do have a 14 day moneyback guarantee on the program,
so it's probably you're like,Hey, we've got this window of

(13:53):
time that we can try it out.
And then Chris, you alsomentioned the, the live calls.
So included in the program, yourfirst three months of live
support are free, so thatincludes coach on-call texting,
which I know you're, you'regonna talk about in a little bit
too.
Mm-hmm.
And then access to the two timesa month live calls, so, which
are great.
So it sounds like she's takingadvantage of those and it's just

(14:14):
a good way, like they're totallyoptional, like athletes don't
have to go to them, but they'rea good way just for some
accountability.
Kinda see other athletes who arealso doing it.
They get to interact with me andthe other coaches and our guest
speakers.
So they're a fun way to be ableto like, have a live component
to the program too.
So I think that that, wasactually something, the first
one I actually made her, I waslike, Nope, you need to get on

(14:34):
this.
This is a live, you know, partof it.
I want you to check it out.
And ever since then, the samething.
Like she, she actually was goneand she was like, I'm gonna be
home by whatever the time itwas.
I can't remember what time itwas starting.
I was like, what's the, what theheck?
And she goes, I, I got the liveZoom.
I wanna be on live.
I think it's better live.
And I think the biggest thingthat I have that I like about
it, because I'll listen in whileshe's on it and that she has

(14:57):
mentioned that she likes, is thequestions that others asked.
Mm-hmm.
Or asked, can't speak.
But it, it helped to see like,Hey, I'm not the only one going
through these struggles.
There's not something like wrongwith me.
This is like a common thing.
Mm-hmm.
And then the, the tools that aregiven.
Even in that, thoseconversations, I've noticed a
big difference with her when shegets on, she comes off like

(15:18):
pumped up.
She's excited.
Like, she's like, I don't know.
I noticed a difference in thatlittle 45 minute from when she
jumps off to when she jumps off.
She's like.
Yeah.
So that's so great.
Awesome.
Okay.
Well, Carlos, tell us about howyou introduced it.
Were you like, you're doingthis, or was it more of an open
situation?

(15:39):
No, so after, after she told me,okay, that whatever you're doing
is not working mm-hmm.
I asked her, okay, just get withme this date.
We want to watch a presentation.
Mm-hmm.
This, uh, coach, coach Bri,offering a free presentation.
Just, just watch it, watch itwith me.
Give your thoughts, gimme youropinions.

(15:59):
Let's give it a try.
Mm-hmm.
If whatever I'm doing is notworking, let's try a different
method.
Give it a time for two weeks.
If it is not working, you canstop.
If you think that you can getsomething, at least something,
some benefits.
Let's keep digging, let's keepworking and we'll see.
Mm-hmm.
So after watching that, freepresentation, she thought, okay,

(16:19):
that, you know what, yes, let'sgive it a try.
I think that this, this is adifferent strategy, different
method, different technique,some tools, for the parents and
also for the athletes.
Let's try it so you can work onyour own stuff and I can work
with on my own.
Let's give it a try.
Mm-hmm.
So, yes, after watching this,presentation, with decided to,

(16:40):
let's go, go for it.
Mm-hmm.
We bought the program and, afterthree, four days, after watching
and seeing her doing her, herhomework, her her stuff, we
noticed that we, uh, mm-hmm.
We have a different daughter,believe it or not, a different
daughter.
Yeah.
At sports.

(17:00):
At school.
Aw.
Yeah.
Within home.
She seemed happier, a little bithappier.
Mm-hmm.
She started talking about thelessons.
She started talking about sometools, the thing that she has
been learning.
So she was kind of different.
Yeah.
So I think, giving her theopportunity to watch this
presentation with you, coachBri, it was a big, big deal.

(17:24):
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, Carlos.
That makes me really happy thatyou mentioned that.
Yeah.
And.
The presentation you're probablytalking about is the one that
many were on this week.
It was probably the livepresentation mostly for sport
Yes.
Is geared towards sportsparents.
So we don't always recommendthat, that the athletes watch
that because we talk a lot aboutconfidence and stuff.
But yes, it's a, it's an option.

(17:45):
The other options that we have,are the, what's your competitor
style quiz?
Christina, maybe you can dropthat in the chat.
We have a little conversationguide with some podcast episodes
that athletes can listen to.
We also take care of a lot of, alot of the buy-in once athletes
are in the program.
So once they get going with thewarmup, like both Chris and
Carlos said, like they see like,oh, okay, this is cool.

(18:05):
Like top athletes are doingthis.
This isn't like something'swrong with me.
They get to hear from alumnifrom the program.
Like I said, they get to takethat little quiz that's like the
first thing that they do.
So they learn about themselves,like what competitor style they
have.
They learn about mentaltraining.
So we take care of a lot of thebuy-in.
If athletes are super hesitant.
We also offer for them to jumpon a call with Coach Saylor, who

(18:26):
is um, one of our awesomeathlete coaches that texts with
them and she's on the livecalls.
And even just connecting withSaylor for like five minutes is
a great way too, to get themlike, okay, this is not just
like, my parents thinksomething's wrong with me, so.
Okay.
If I add, can I add something?
Oh yeah.
Even though it's not recommendedthat the athletes, uh, watch

(18:46):
and, and, and see thepresentation or the live calls
mm-hmm.
I decided to do it because shewas so persistent, hesitant
Yeah.
About trying something.
Yeah.
So I saw some testimonialsmm-hmm.
From parents, from athletes.
So that's why I decided, okay,just, just watch it.
Yeah.

(19:07):
It's not, because that is sayingit, just, just watch and gimme
your, your opinion.
Mm-hmm.
It helped a lot, even though,like you said, it's not
recommended.
Mm-hmm.
It helped a lot.
Yeah.
So, yes, that's great.
And honestly, you know, your kidthe best, so you're like, this
is what she needs to hear, so,and you, you nailed it.
So, the other thing that I thinkit was.

(19:28):
Chris, well actually both ofyou.
Like, I love that you're alsoleading with, this isn't just
for you, it's for me.
Like clearly what I'm doing isnot really helping.
And so this is also for me to bea better sports parent for you
and a really a better parent foryou.
And, I think when athletes seethat, but it's not like all on
them.
You're like, you, I'm in it withyou.
Like I'm learning.
I have not, I love the, I mean,Chris, you have six kids.

(19:49):
Carlos, you have three.
You, you're very, you're veryseasoned parents.
But, I always say like, this isthe first time I have been a
parent of a 15-year-old or a16-year-old, you know, and so
I'm, I'm learning too, and thisis a resource for me to be
better for you.
So that sometimes is also a goodapproach.
Okay.
I wanna get into the juicyparts.
Like what did you start tonotice?
So we kind of have led up towhat the situation was, how it

(20:11):
was presented.
I also see a question in thechat from Ashley that I'm gonna
get into in a second aroundlike, time commitment, like
kinda the logistics of like howit works for your schedules.
So I will, Ashley, I'll answerthat as well and kind of hear
from both of, the parents here.
But, Chris, what did you startto notice in your daughter when
she started doing the training?
She started to kind of like sinkher teeth in.
What were the changes that youstarted to notice?

(20:34):
I noticed definitely confidencebecause, one of the things
Carlos had said had resonatedwith me too.
Like, there was a shift at her,in her at one point where she
just seemed different.
Like she was a different kid.
Mm-hmm.
Like she was shutting down.
She was withdrawing, she was andI knew it was this, the pressure
she was, you know, strugglingwith this pressure.
So that was the first thing,that I noticed.

(20:56):
With her and how she respondedto some tough situations.
I tried to craft my words, well,yeah, you're good.
She didn't take it on like, I'ma complete failure.
I, I, I'm terrible, you know,whatever, all the things.
She just, she didn't sit thereand just beat herself up.
She took the correction, likeshe took out of the correction,

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what she needed to take, and shetook and she let go of how it
was delivered.
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Which was something that she hadstruggled with in the past of
like separating the two Yes.
From saying that.
Yeah.
But and so she, she didn't letit just completely derail her.
Mm-hmm.
That was one, a big win for her.
I felt like, I saw with her andthen, when she would make an

(21:39):
error, that was one of thethings that she would mess up.
It was like.
It was almost like, okay,everything I've done has been a
mess up.
And she didn't, she would justshake it off and she would go
right onto the next one and, andshe would succeed.
She was able to mentally, like,throw away that error and nail
it the next time.
That was something we saw in hera big shift instead of spiraling

(21:59):
downward.
But she also, shared, you know,she was using the tools in
different things.
She would have a debatecompetition, and we never even
talked about it, like, we neverdiscussed using your tools or
are you gonna use your tools?
Like, it was never aconversation.
It wasn't even on my radar.
But later afterwards, she said,man, I was so nervous for that,
you know, for that, for thedebate.
And she goes, but then I startedusing the breathing techniques

(22:22):
that I learned, and she goes, Iused it the whole, all the way
through.
And I was like, oh, wow.
What?
Yeah.
It just never crossed my mind,but thankfully she knew that was
a tool she could use in anothersituation.
Yeah.
And she nailed it.
She handled it, you know, youcould never tell that she was
nervous at all through the wholething.
Wow.
So those, I guess are a couplethings.
I think I mentioned earlier, youknow, last season she just would

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put so much pressure on herselfthat it was like by the end of
every tournament, she was, shewas crying.
Mm-hmm.
She was trying, struggling tokeep herself composed.
And Jake, you know, doesn't everwanna see anybody, anybody to
see her meltdown.
Yeah.
As you can see, by the end ofit, she was just, she was spent,
like, she was just, couldn'thand, you know, couldn't keep up
anymore.
Mm-hmm.
And that has not happened.
Not once this season at all.

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She hasn't even.
Like she, it just hasn't evenhappened.
Wow.
Wow.
She's just, and she's beenplaying at a level, so yeah, I
guess those are a couple things,I guess.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, those are, those areawesome.
And I wanna hear, like, as muchas you wanna share a, after I
hear from Carlos, if you can,'cause you said like, it's been
a tough season, thecompetition's been tough, maybe

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there's some tough challenges,obviously, whatever you feel
comfortable sharing.
But I would love to hear like,what have the challenges, what
have some of the challenges beenthat like, normally this
would've gone kind of sideways,but now she's overcoming it.
So I'll give you a second tothink about those.
So, Carlos, how about you?
What did you start to see?
What changes did you start tonotice?
So, yes, it started, like Isaid, with, um, her attitude

(23:47):
towards life.
More the competition or theneed.
Yeah.
And, and we can see her bodylanguage more relaxed, more
confident, having a smile,simple as having a smile on her
face, that's, that's, that wasthe world for us.
Having, having, again, thatsmile on her face.

(24:07):
Mm-hmm.
So from body language to thewords that she's using, from
about to quit the sport.
Mm-hmm.
She said, okay, do you know thatI love my sport?
I love my sport again.
So those, those kind of, changeswe, we were able to see.
Mm-hmm.
Um, she started saying that sheloves gymnastics, that she loves

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being there.
Practicing.
Mm-hmm.
Having fun with the coach, withthe teammates.
and not thinking about quitting.
So yeah, it was 180, 180degrees, uh, difference.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
And I just pulled up a text thatwe got from her, like kind of
little bit into the program, andshe said she overcame a mental
block too, so Yes, yes.
That's huge.
I, I, I didn't know how to helpher about dealing with the

(24:50):
mental blocks.
Mm-hmm.
I made a mistake of telling her,oh, you know what?
Confidence is just like asuperpower that you press one
button and boom, it's there.
Right.
I know.
It's, it's not, it's not that.
Yeah.
Where's my button?
I don't know.
She's like, I don't have thebutton.
Just, just be confident.
But that how, I dunno how.
Mm-hmm.

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This be confident.
So she learned that and she toldme, you know, that I'm not
confident, but I.
Trust, uh, trusting me.
I, I'm trusting myself.
Mm-hmm.
I trust in my progress, um, onthe way I, I believe in myself,
I love myself.

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Mm-hmm.
It's not about being confident,but trusting in yourself.
Yeah.
I was like a big mm-hmm.
Big, big, big, big situation forme.
Yeah.
So noticing this kind of growthin a short period of time.
It, it's, it's amazing.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
And normally I'm learning on myown, but I'm learning from my
athlete.

(25:52):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So that, that's another thing Iwould think.
I'm learning what she'slearning.
She's teaching me some stuff.
She's practicing some toolsevery day.
I can resonate with the snapbackroutine at first.
Mm-hmm.
I didn't know what was it, whatshe was talking about but now
that I am learning and doing theprogram and watching her, now I

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can relate and resonate.
What is the famous, not like aroutine mm-hmm.
Visualization.
She's using the visualization inthe past she didn't, she didn't
know how to do it, what to do,and she's doing the
visualizations every day.
Wow.
Uh, yes.
Yes.
It's, it's, it's amazing all theprogress in, in the short, short
time.
Yeah.

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Oh, that's so awesome to hear.
Okay, Chris, I'll circle back toyou.
Anything come to mind on like,just what you noticed this
season that you're like, wow,typically that would've gone
different?
Yeah.
It's something Carlos said.
I just have to say same thingwith my daughter, with the
confidence, you know, some ofthe tough situations is the same
thing.
Being told to just chooseconfidence.

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And it's the same thing.
Like, okay, well I'm trying, youknow, like I'm trying to choose
confidence and, but once yourealize, you know, I have the
tools and I can rely on thetools and the training that I,
you know, I've gotten here that,that was the magic button Yeah.
That she needed.
Not just being told, just beconfident.
Coming from the co you know, thecoaching.

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Communication was, that was whatwas being told.
Just be confident.
Yeah.
And you could see that She waslike, I'm trying, you know, I'm
trying to be, I'm trying to beconfident.
Mm-hmm.
And I thought I was confident.
Right.
But, so being able to go backto, and that's what I'll remind
her.
Mm-hmm.
You've got the tools.
Just go play, go do what youknow, go do what you know, you
know how to do.
Mm-hmm.

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And then that's, and that's whatshe focuses on.
I'm like, okay, I'm trying tomuster up this confidence.
I'm gonna use my tools and justgo do what I know how to do,
what I've been trained to do.
Yeah.
And that's, that was a big,shift for her.
Some of the challenges for herthis year or what, why we knew
it was just mainly because shewas going into a, a higher
division.
That we had some, you know,concern that wasn't like

(28:03):
allowing for the time fornatural progression to work up
to that.
But then also it was a veryyoung team, just in general, a
very young and inexperiencedteam.
Mm-hmm.
That was all going up into thisdivision that.
You know, we were justconcerned.
They weren't really equippedfor.
And then, um, also very newcoaching.
It was coaches that hadn't hadthe experience in the levels as

(28:24):
well.
So we were just like, this couldbe a really rough season mm-hmm.
As everybody tries to figurethis out.
Um, and so that, that was, youknow, without digging in deeper,
I guess.
Yeah.
But that's some of our concerns.
We were like, it's gonna be atough season just for a lot of
reasons.
Mm-hmm.
And.
She just needs some differentequipping.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.

(28:44):
Yeah.
I don't know if that actually,if that answered it or, oh,
don't totally.
Like, I think that's a concernfor, I mean, all parents
honestly, sh I hate to sayshould, but should be concerned
about that.
Like you're, you're kind ofseeing it play.
You're like, she's, I shared onthe webinar this week too, like
I played at a high level incollege and like every single
season got harder and harder andharder.
Like the coaching got harder,the expectations got more, the

(29:06):
pressure got more intense.
And then especially as theparent, you're kind of seeing
like, well, if it's young andinexperienced coaching and she's
playing in a level that'shigher, like you're just
connecting the dots that like,okay, this is gonna be much more
than physical that she's gonnabe challenged with.
So yeah.
That makes a lot of sense.
Okay, let's talk logistics.
I, the question I get a lot islike, how do you fit this in?
Like, my athlete's training alot, she's going to school.

(29:28):
I know Chris for you, like thehomeschool situation maybe lends
itself a little bit easier tojust like pocketing in.
But I'm curious like how.
How did your athletes do it?
We have a 30 minute a weektraining plan that we recommend
they go through.
It's also self-paced.
They can go faster, they can goslower.
They can do it on the way tothe, their tournament or
whatever.
Like even just a little bit goesa long way.
But I'm curious like how itactually looked in your

(29:50):
athletes' actual schedule.
So, Carlos, I'll start with you.
How did that all look for youguys?
Yes.
Um, well, school and then afterschool she goes directly to
practice mm-hmm.
From three to eight every day.
So she has just a few minutes,uh, every day to do, something.

(30:10):
So she, uses the method and, andthe tools and the, lessons from
15 to 30 minutes a day.
Mm-hmm.
As a slow progress.
But, uh, huge improvements.
So she's, all in, every day.
She has been practicing.
She has been learning, reading.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, discussing what she'slearning with, her sisters and

(30:31):
mom and dad.
Uh, but just, just a littlesteps, like 15 days, minutes a
day for her has been enough.
Mm-hmm.
Sometimes when she has, moreavailability.
She do around 30, 35, 40 minutesa day or does as little as 15
minutes a day.
It's a lot for my athlete.
Yeah.
Um, yes.
That's actually more than werecommend.

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So she's doing, she's doing alot.
So good on her.
But yeah, like I said, she's,she's, mm-hmm.
Um, she's totally hands on, uh,all in, committed Uh, since
probably day two, first, thefirst day wasn't kind of easy
for her.
Mm-hmm.
But after day two, day three,she was only, yeah.

(31:13):
Okay.
That's great.
Okay.
Chris, how does it look for youall?
Yeah, for us.
So my daughter, typically, shelikes to organize her time on
her own.
She's like, yeah.
So she usually, when I hear herdoing it the most is when we're
in the car going to, she has apretty heavy schedule, with

(31:33):
different classes mm-hmm.
And training and things, andshe'll do it.
Like I said earlier, I think theshe'll have her laptop on and
she'll connect to the hotspotand I'll hear her going through
it in the car, usually whenwe're going.
And I would say she probablydoes in total, maybe an hour a
week.
Mm-hmm.
You know, altogether.
But I also had printed out,there's, I dunno if it's would

(31:55):
be called the workbook, but allthe.
Okay.
So I printed that for her andput it in a binder for her.
Mm-hmm.
And, she'll have that out, youknow, throughout the week and
making notes in there or workingon the different, um mm-hmm.
The modules, whatever.
And then she'll do go through itthere.
She just works it in.
I feel like as, like if sheknows she's coming into

(32:17):
something or go going into atournament or something, she'll
dig it out and do a little extratime.
Mm-hmm.
But in general, she probably,maybe an hour a week, the week
that she does the live Zoom, youknow, that's another 45 minutes
or so.
But, she tries to catch thoselive.
She isn't always able to, soshe'll do the replay on her own.
She really likes that live Zoom.

(32:38):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I wanna talk about that ina second.
Yeah, that's great.
I mean, you guys, you both havekiddos that are pretty
responsible with their timemanagement.
Sounds like that's great forthose that aren't, you know, for
probably the 75% that aren't, weactually just recommend that
they print out the 30 minute aweek training plan.
So, that helps them stay ontrack.
They can just like check off thelessons as they go.

(32:59):
Yeah, there is a workbook likeChris said, so some parents
choose to print that off.
They can also, it's all, it'sfillable PDFs, so if they wanna
do it electronically, they cantotally do that too.
But for a lot of people, theylike the pen and paper.
And so at 30 minutes a week thatgets athletes through the
program in about three months orso.
That gets them through like thecore content.
But it is designed for them tocome back to, it's designed for
them to continue to utilize theskills.

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Maybe there's not something thatapplies to them right now, like.
I'm not really dealing withcomparison right now, but next
season, all of a sudden I've gotthis girl on my team and I'm
constantly like measuring myselfagainst her.
And that section is nowapplicable.
So, we also recommend theathletes go back through phase
two at the start of every newseason.
So club season sport to, to highschool season or switching

(33:43):
sports or when they level upbecause that is going to help
reset their goals.
That's where they set theirdaily mindset routine, their 3,
2, 1 brave.
So yeah, I love that you're,your athletes seem very
responsible.
Um, but if you're a mom that'slike, well, I don't know if
she's gonna fit this in, use the30 minute a week training plan,
for our younger athletes, onething that has been working
well.

(34:04):
From some parents is they likeactually just carve out a day of
the week that they go toStarbucks and mom or dad works
on their side and then athleteworks on their side.
So they're like, this is when wedo it.
And then they do their 3, 2, 1brave, which is the daily
mindset routine.
It takes five, like fiveminutes.
They're like, well, I'll just dothat before practice.
And it's a good way to keep itstop top of mind.
But yeah.
Let's talk about the liveaspect, Kim.

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Good question.
How many girls are on a livecall?
We split the first call of themonth by age.
So the middle school and youngerare together.
They're typically like between20 and 30 girls.
There's been a little bit morerecently, but we also have, two
to three coaches on the call.
So we go into breakout rooms anddepending on how many girls are
on the call and then we ananswer their questions there.
And then the high school andcollege calls, there's been

(34:46):
about 15 to 20 on there.
So.
The coaches, there's three ofus.
So there's me, there's CoachSailor, and then there's Coach
Rachel.
Rachel is also a parent coach.
So her daughter, she has twokiddos that are playing division
one sports right now.
Her daughter was like McDonald'sall American.
She's played, she's a freshmanat Michigan Freshman of the
year.
Yeah, she, basketball player.
Amazing.
So anyways, she has just suchgood, like perspective as a

(35:09):
sports mom, but then also she'sa certified mental performance
coach for us.
So she does both athlete andparent.
And then Sailor is, like I thinkI mentioned already, but she's a
former dual sport collegeathlete.
She's in her twenties, so sheconnects really well with the
girls.
She is on the other end of mostof the coach on call texting
aspects.
So she's coaching the girls viatext.
So yeah.

(35:29):
And then.
How long do we have access tothe program once we sign up?
Yeah, you have lifetime accessto all the content, so that
never goes away.
And any updates we make to theprogram as well.
The only thing that's like time,you know, bound is the live
support, which I'm gonna talkabout in a second.
So the first three months arefree for live support.
So you get the texting, you getthe live calls.

(35:50):
If you wanna continue afterthose three months, then we do
offer that at$79 a month, butyou don't have to.
So that's the only thing that'sthere.
And then one-on-ones, yes, wedo.
Sailor is doing, sailor hasone-on-ones.
We sell one-on-one packages inpackages of three.
So you can always add that on.
But it's not, in the program,the coach on call texting is

(36:10):
their individual access tocoaches.
Okay.
Sorry, that was a lot.
Um, Chris, can you talk aboutthe, you talked about the live
calls, things like that, butdoes your daughter use the coach
on call texting?
Can you talk about that aspectto it?
So, no, she has actually used itas far as responding.
Mm-hmm.
I know she likes theencouragement and the tips that

(36:31):
come out regularly.
'cause she'll mention those.
Yeah.
Or how, oh, you know this wastalking about this and I was
just thinking about this.
You know, she'll connect thosedots on her own.
Mm-hmm.
Um, I have used the texting.
Yes.
I, we had a really, roughsituation that I was like, oh, I
really don't know what to dowith this.
But I was a little fired upabout it.

(36:51):
Yeah.
It's like, I'm not sure, I'm notusually one that makes a big
deal outta stuff, but it was oneof those things I was like, I
don't know.
And I texted back, or I textedin the text chat and I asked, I
was like, Hey, this is asituation.
Like, do you have some feedbackor do you have some insight on
this?
And I did.
I got a really great perspectivemm-hmm.
Shift back from it, but justreally helped me kind of process

(37:12):
through and how to, how tomanage it differently.
So, I was super grateful forhaving that piece of it.
So yeah.
I'm glad you mentioned thatbecause yes, parents have access
to coach on-call texting too.
So you text in and coach Rachelis on the other end of that.
I am too, but I mean, she'shonestly like, has the most
parent experience out of all ofus.
Like, so she's like, we call herthe goat of sports moms.

(37:35):
So, just to get her perspectiveon all the things that you face
as a sports mom, like is, isgreat.
So, Carlos, how about withNatalia?
I know that she has been textingus and does she come to the live
calls?
Yes.
She's so diligent with this,she's been, using this live text
and calls.
Mm-hmm.
I haven't done it like, likeher, but, uh, she is kind of,

(37:57):
uh.
Consistent with this.
Mm-hmm.
She got a lot of good, advice,guidance when, when she's, uh,
texting back and forth mm-hmm.
Every time that she has a doubtor when she's learning something
and she's not quite sure abouthow to use it, how, what to do,
she immediately do the texting.
Mm-hmm.

(38:18):
She got some good responses and,um, she's been using it a lot.
Mm-hmm.
A lot.
Especially, uh, uh, when she'strying to do something
different, uh, practice.
Mm-hmm.
Based on what she's learning,uh, using some tools.
Okay.
Let me go back with when, whenmy coach, let me ask her
something.
She got the response and shestarted using it, uh, right

(38:40):
away.
Mm-hmm.
She is using a calendar, she'susing the cell phone to join the
live calls.
Mm-hmm.
And she, she's sharing with meand her sisters all the
experiences that she's, uh,feeling all the knowledge that
she's getting with the livecalls.
But yes.
Yes.
It's impressive how diligentand, and, uh, persistent she is.

(39:04):
She's, uh, well, she's adifferent, different, different
girl.
Yeah.
Oh, that's so great to hear.
Um, and we love having your kidson the calls too.
It's so fun to just also heartheir questions.
And Chris, I think you said too,like even having athletes on the
calls, just listening to thequestions that other people are
asking is really useful becausethey're like, oh, I never
thought to ask that.
Or like, I actually have thatthought in the back of my head,

(39:24):
but I'm glad somebody else askedit.
Um, and if they miss a livecall, it's totally fine.
We actually have a privateathlete podcast, that we pop
those replays on.
We also give extra tips on thoseprivate podcast episodes, so
they can always catch thatthere.
If your daughter doesn't have aphone, we also, like you heard,
we text you the parent, and soyou, your daughter can also

(39:45):
always access us via your parentyourself.
So.
Okay.
Let's see.
Question in the q and a.
Thanks for popping these inhere.
'cause I can't see the q and aright now with this like, double
screen situation I've got goingon.
Okay.
I know this is centered aroundathletes.
How do you, how do theone-on-one go towards other
subjects?
Okay.
Wait, my daughter is in verycompetitive seeing.

(40:06):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Competitive singing.
I don't want her to getdiscouraged.
We can't apply to her, our area,I mean it very much applies to
performance based activities.
So singing would be one ofthose.
We've had kiddos join that arelike, not athletes, but they're
in mock trial or they do theaterarts.
You know, so that would apply tothere.
We do mostly give metaphors andexamples related to sports.

(40:26):
So she just have to kind of beable to recognize like, okay, if
they're talking about likesports performance, I am
translating this to stingingperformance.
But all of the strategies wouldapply as well.
Okay.
And then I see some greatquestions.
Jessica, do the tools help withjealousy in dealing with
difficult teammates or peers?
Yeah, like in the programitself, we find that like once a
athletes start to like, lookinside themselves and realize

(40:49):
like what they want, what theirgoals are, like, once their
confidence gets strengthened,they're less likely to look
around and like be jealous ofother people.
Like they're just more focusedon like what they want.
But we do have some specific,modules in the training material
around comparison and jealousy.
We have that bonus ditch, thedrama training bundle that
everyone gets when you join as apart of this enrollment special.

(41:11):
So that's specifically like howdo you deal with, with
challenging teammates.
That's also a thing that wecoach athletes on.
That's probably the number onething that we coach athletes on
via coach on call texting.
They ask the common questionsare like, I'm nervous.
I got a mental block, what do Ido?
And also I have this teammatethat is like super whatever,
like rude or challenging, likehow do I navigate this?
So also your daughter can getsome like personalized support

(41:33):
around that too.
Okay.
All right.
Keep those questions coming.
Moms, I have just a couple morequestions for Carlos, for Chris.
Um, Chris, what would you say isyour, like, favorite tool in the
program?
So aspect of the program tool,you've mentioned a lot, but like
if you were to narrow it down,what would you say that it is?
I think, one on her side and oneon my side that has been.

(41:57):
A really helpful tool or justawareness actually maybe is so
in the Facebook chat or theFacebook group where parents can
ask questions and the coachesrespond and things.
That has been really helpful forme.
Yeah.
And like I said, we have sixkids and most of them did some
pretty competitive sports.
But you, every kid is different.

(42:19):
Yeah.
And every situation is new.
And in this particular, for mydaughter, I was really feeling
like, man, I am really failingas a mom.
Like I can't figure this out.
And especially after havingmultiple kids in sports and
different things, like why can'tI figure this out?
Like, why am I not able to helpher and it must just be me.
So kind of like how, you know, Ifeel like that they sometimes
think that like.

(42:40):
There's something wrong with me.
I need to fix this, or whatever.
I was struggling with some ofthat too.
And so hearing the parents'questions and their scenarios,
and even though they weren'texactly the same as my situation
or the things that we weredealing with it, I could make
that connection like, oh, thisis similar to what I'm going and
the feedback was so helpful.
Mm-hmm.
Hearing their questions andthose conversations and how that

(43:01):
was worked through.
So I'd say that is probably onefor me that I have, I have
really appreciated.
And the regular tips and thingsthat you drop in there about,
you know, um, or today I thinkit was about the labels.
Mm-hmm.
Like that was just a reallygood, like self-reflection, um,
thing.
So that's from on my side Ithink I like, and for my

(43:22):
daughter, um, I think the livecalls actually and the
questions, and from the samething.
But on her side, the athleteside is hearing the other
athletes are the other peoplethat are on there asking their
questions and her realizinglike, man.
All these people have these samequestions and these same
challenges and these samestruggles, and to be able to

(43:42):
work through them together.
Mm-hmm.
Uh,'cause she's not one who is,like I said, she won't just like
talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.
Mm-hmm.
But she really like, listens andabsorbs and receives the
information well, and thenshifts and adjusts and applies.
And so I, there's been so manytools, like there's so many
things I love about the program,but I think those two are just

(44:03):
really standout aspects.
She has done performancecoaching programs in the past
and they've been good and theywere helpful.
They're, they're just aspects ofthis that are.
Just set it apart.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's great.
And, yeah, on the, the Facebookthing you mentioned that made me
think parents actually havelifetime access to that.

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It's not, that one isn't boundby any time or, you know,'cause
we know there's things that aregonna happen as your daughter
goes through her sport.
And so we actually give youlifetime access to our Facebook
community and our, privatepodcast.
So yeah, that's, you're, you'rewith us for life.
I do.
Okay.
I thought of another question,Chris, if you feel comfortable
answering after I hear fromCarlos, like, were you
considering other things or likemaybe you've done other programs

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or, because I know some parentsare like, well, I'm considering
maybe like a sports psychologistor something like that, which
is, we're not saying that that'sa bad thing at all, but, just
curious, like what else were youmaybe considering?
So, Carlos from you, favoritetool in the program or aspect of
the program?
For me as a parent, same asChris, the awareness.

(45:05):
Mm-hmm.
Knowing my, my role as a parent,I'm not the athlete.
I'm not the coach.
Yeah.
I don't need to act like, likean athlete.
Mm-hmm.
So actually my daughter told melike, dad, I'm not you.
Mm-hmm.
So a awareness, awareness thatverbal and not verbal
communication about what to say,what not to say as a parent

(45:28):
mm-hmm.
Before or during thecompetition, but that, that
awareness, of, as a parent, therole as a parent.
Yeah.
Um, you need to be just asupport, help, a guidance in,
in, in your journey.
But that's it.
You are not the athlete.
Mm-hmm.
In my case, I'm not the athlete.
I'm not the coach.
So learn about my boundaries.

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For her, like Chris, said, thelife goals mm-hmm.
She is amazed with, with thelife goals, knowing that there
are some other athletesstruggling with the same
situations, with the same mentalblocks, with the same lack of
confidence and lack ofsomething.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, learning that there are someathletes that they, they were
able to overcome all thenegative stuff and being a

(46:10):
different athlete, that it ispossible that it is doable.
Somebody has done it before Ican do it too.
So that's the, probably the besttool that she's, using right
now.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's, that's amazing.
Okay.
Chris, any other things that youwere considering you can touch
on that?
Yeah.
I actually was, my daughter haddone some mental performance

(46:32):
programs in the past.
Two different seasons, but theywere very short and they were
probably the right thing at theright time mm-hmm.
For what she needed in thatmoment.
And I was, when I was lookingfor a different one this time
and I, I guess I didn't reallyknow exactly what I was looking
for, but I was looking forsomething different.
Yeah.
And, when I stumbled on thisone, the parent piece of it is

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really what drove it home forme.
And then the live, all the,there's just a lot of extra
pieces that came with thisprogram that, we didn't have
with the other one, the lifetimeaccess, that was a big one for
me.
I was like, oh, wow.
'cause we had spent aconsiderable amount of money on
the previous, uh, coachingprograms, but they were like,
one was like an eight week andone was like a 12 week and it

(47:14):
was a set content once you wentthrough it like that was it.
Mm-hmm.
And again, there was value, likeit helped her in the time.
But that the lifetime access,the direct support, was huge.
And the parent side of it, butthere's just been so much value
to the parent side of it.
Yeah.
That, that is one piece Ihaven't seen anywhere else.

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Yeah.
Okay.
Thanks for sharing that.
Carlos.
Were you, and I don't know ifthat applies to you, any other,
you're like considering otherthings?
Well before trying this,methodical coach mm-hmm.
We tried with, uh, not thesports psychologist, but a
therapist, psychologist.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, coach, uh, it didn't work.

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Uh, my, my athlete felt that shewas in a police interrogation.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Doing this back and forth,answers and questions.
She felt not okay with that, um,uh, sessions or those sessions,
and we will stop doing it.
Mm-hmm.
We tried with a different,therapist.
It was the same, the sameresult.

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We tried with, articles withsome, watching some videos.
Mm-hmm.
And it, it didn't work.
Uh, I tried, I'm not apsychologist, but I tried doing
my own method again.
It didn't work.
Yeah.
Uh, that's what I convinced mydaughter, not convinced, but I,
asked her to, to at least trythis elite program.

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We're not, trying to do or try adifferent method right now.
Mm-hmm.
Like I said, we're probably, uh,hands on this one.
Yeah.
She's enjoying it.
Um, yes.
No, no, no.
As of right now, we're nottrying to do something
different.
Mm-hmm.
Because this one is working.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well that's great to hear.
Yeah, and I think some, I'm gladyou said that, Carlos, because a

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lot of times athletes are like,okay, when I'm sitting down
with, and again, sportspsychology, or sports
psychologists, therapists, likethere's definitely, a great
place for that.
And, but what we've heard fromsome athletes is like, this just
seems really intense.
You know, like, I've gotta sitdown with somebody, like, and
we've gotta talk about ourfeelings and all this.
And like the program more giveslike very tangible tools and,
you know, presents it like,okay, here's a tool, use it

(49:22):
right now, and here's a tool,use it.
So yeah, we get that question alot too, like, what about
therapy?
And sometimes this can, um, workconcurrently with that because
it's more sports performancebased.
Um, so yeah, just mentioningthat, if that's helpful to
anybody.
Um, I think we've answered allthe questions in the chat, or
Christina has grabbed them, but,um, parents who are listening,
if you have any other lastminute questions, go ahead and

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pop those in.
I'll wrap up now just with anylast, any last things, any last
things you wanna say, anythingthat we didn't cover, and then
we'll wrap it up.
So, Chris, I'll, I'll start withyou.
There we go.
Um, I guess, uh, I just feellike there's really no risk.
Mm-hmm.
Because you do offer that 14day, um, trial.

(50:04):
It's not really a trial, butYeah.
Um, I feel like there's no risk.
Like there's only theopportunity to benefit from it.
Um, if anybody just even justjumps in there for two weeks and
gives it a try, um, I wouldimagine you probably don't get
too many, many people leavingthat, right?
Yeah.
Because it's so good.
It's just so, it's been such arich program, but, um, there
really is no risk.

(50:26):
Um, there really is only theopportunity for reward from it.
So that's what I would likeleave people with.
Like, you can't.
Mm-hmm.
There, it's, you offer no riskopportunity with just checking
it out.
Yeah.
Oh, thanks for saying that.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Carlos, any last thing from youthat you wanna mention?
Yes.
Same as Chris.

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The reason we decided to go forthis method, this program is,
the free risk.
This, this, uh, two, two weeksof trial that you offer.
Mm-hmm.
And if you think that new is notgetting any benefits, you can
cancel it and you can get yourre refund.
Mm-hmm.
That's a huge, deal for us orfor, also as a family.

(51:08):
Yeah.
Uh, and that's the reason why myathlete, actually decided to
join.
To join.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Let's give it a try, aftertrying it and after these two
weeks that, you know what, thisis the best gift that I, I can
never get.
So thank you for that.
Thank you for encouraging me todo the trial.
Two weeks trial, and thank youfor that.
So no, no risks, no nothing.

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Yeah.
Um, my last comment, uh, my, myathlete has learned that it's,
it's all about trusting inyourself, enjoying the right and
just have fun.
She, she, she learned this,she's using it, she's
practicing.
Mm-hmm.
And you got stick on her mind.
And she's using it every day,trusting, having fun, and just

(51:50):
enjoying the progress, enjoyingthe right.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's great.
And can I answer really quick?
You put a, there, I just saw,there was a question in the chat
about how they get started.
That was another thing that Iwas so impressed with the
modules and how simple you hadit laid out to go through
everything.
Like it made it so I just userfriendly and, um, that was

(52:12):
another, like the whole programI could literally talk about for
so long, because it's just somany things they're okay.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks for mentioning thatbecause we do put a lot of
intentionality and thoughtbehind it, you know, and like
get a lot of feedback on like,okay, what's the simplest, you
know, like low, low barrier toentry to just get going.

(52:32):
So yeah.
Ashley, what does day one looklike?
Yeah, she, when you enroll her,she gets a login.
So she logs into her trainingportal and then literally just
starts with the warmup, and thewarmup takes it from there.
She does her quiz first.
She learns about herself if shehasn't already done that.
And then she just goes through.
So yeah, it's pretty, prettysimple.
You get a slick like onboardingas well, and we break it up

(52:53):
into, you know, manageable,bite-sized pieces so that you
kind of know what's going on,what's included in the program,
and how to go about it.
So yeah, Ashley, if you canliterally sign up today and get
her started today.
So, and then I have one lastquestion on here.
Can you speak to how this workswith college athletes?
I've heard a lot about highschool and, and middle school
and college and then, well, onething that both of you, I mean,
you both have multiple athletesand so although we've talked

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specifically about like one ofyour kiddos, I mean, you could,
every athlete in your householdgets their own login if you
want, want them to, so.
There's that, but yeah.
College, these skills apply tocollege athletes as well.
We've had, I would say aboutlike 10 to 15% of our, athletes
in the program are college aged.
And so they go through it likeany other athlete.

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And that's the beauty of likethe content itself is that
they're going through kind of attheir own pace, applying the
skills, learning them.
And then as a parent of acollege athlete, like, yeah,
you've been through a lotalready, but there probably are
some things on the parent sidethat you could benefit from as
well.
So you go through your side, andlearn those things as well.
On the calls, the collegeathletes are grouped with the
high school.
It's like high school andcollege, are together.

(53:58):
So, yeah, they're different,right?
Like what a middle schoolathlete is going through and
what if like a high school and acollege athlete, like the
questions are very different.
So, um, we wanna make sure thatthey feel comfortable in their
group as well.
If you have, that, so yeah, theskills apply to those kiddos as
well.
In fact, we had.
A runner from Clemson, who wasgoing through the program
recently, and we don't condonethis, but she actually got her

(54:21):
reset word tattooed on her body.
She sent me a text and was like,look at the tattoo I got.
And I was like, oh my gosh.
And it was her,'cause in theprogram they learned like a
reset word and she had, she hadit on there and it was like
unstoppable, I think is what itwas.
And I'm like, oh, well, okay.
That's great.
I mean, she is, she is incollege, so, you know.
Yeah.
And then Catherine programrecommended for a 9-year-old.

(54:42):
That's on the young end.
We've had as young as nine, butwe recommend that you do the
program more with her.
So I would like kind of, youknow, sit by her, do the athlete
side, make sure she's tracking.
I don't think you can teachthese skills to kids, you know,
young enough.
Like she's gonna learn breathwork, visualization, her
thoughts about herself, like allof that is impressionable right
now.
Like I'm talking to my7-year-old about all those

(55:02):
things right now.
So, but then you also having theparent side that young is great
because now you're not going andwaiting years and years and
being like, oh shoot, I wish Iwouldn't have like, said all of
that.
Like, I, I would've done itdifferently.
So, yeah, lifetime access meansthat you can also just pop in
when she's ready.
So.
Okay, I think we've got it all,but if you have any other
questions, you can reach out tous at [e-mail].

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Christina, will you pop the linkfor the discount in the chat as
well one last time and yeah.
Thank you Chris.
Thank you Carlos for being here.
I really appreciate you sharingyour time so generously with us.
Thank you for doing thisprogram.
Yeah.
Like you don't charge enough.
Oh God.
Like it's worth so much more.
It's worth so much more.
Yeah.

(55:46):
Oh, thank you.
I've never heard that.
Okay.
I'm just gonna say actually Ihave, but, that's one of the
first times I've heard that,which is amazing.
All right.
Have a great weekend, everybody.
We'll see you later.
Thank you, coach.