October 1, 2025 • 31 mins
Emmi Fortin joins me today to dive into the fascinating world of self-discovery through travel and the unique role of a breakup coach. We kick things off chatting about her journey to becoming a life guide, where she reveals that it’s not just about teaching people how to break up, but empowering them to find clarity and confidence during life’s transitions. Emmi shares her own transformative experiences in Spain, where she learned to embrace independence and push her boundaries - like, who knew navigating a foreign subway could be a metaphor for life, am I right? We also dish out some tips on how to travel with intention and make the most out of your adventures. Plus, don’t forget to check the show notes for a free giveaway that Emmi’s offering, because who doesn’t love a good cheat sheet for relationships? Tune in for some wisdom and a sprinkle of humor that’ll inspire your next wanderlust!
Learn about more about Emmi Fortin:
Emmi Fortin is a 2x International Best Selling and Award Winning author. She is the creator of her pioneering Story Book Life Intensive, a fusion of memoir-style writing and innovative coaching to help visionaries, business execs and CEOs, conscious thought leaders, and people from all walks of life break through their limitations and create the Story Book Life of their own design. Emmi is on a mission to help 20,000 individuals tap into their personal story and use it to create the relationships, team, community, life, and/or business of their dreams.
As a Self-Leadership Coach, Emmi also helps women and men rebuild themselves after a breakup, divorce, or damaging relationship so they can feel confident, stress-free, and enjoy life as they move forward. Her clients express feeling a renewed sense of self, direction, and independence during and after their work with her in her Wake Up from Your Breakup coaching program.
To be considered for a coaching opportunity, simply email info@emmifortin.com to schedule your free Discovery Call.
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Hello, travelers. My name isGrace Simmons, and this is the Random
and Wonderful podcast. Settlein and listen to stories of wanderlust
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Amethyst Palava Hut llc.Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Random
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and Wonderful podcast. Todaymy guest is Emmi and we are going
to chat about her role as alife guide, but also her travel and
excursions and all thedifferent life lessons that she's
learned. So welcome, Emmy.
Thank you. Thank you so muchfor having me, Grace.
You're very welcome. So, abreakup coach. How do we get into
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that and what do you do as abreakup coach? Are you teaching people
how to break up or is it thebefore, after? What do you do?
Great question. I, you know,when I tell people what I do, they
usually say, what, what now?And they need an explanation. So
usually I call myself abreakup and relationship coach. So
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I'm not here promotingbreakups. I'm here to help people
through the process if that'sthe direction that they feel like
they need to go. So it's a lotof self discovery work and just kind
of figuring out what your rolehas been in any past relationships
to see if it's serving you,not serving you, what areas you need
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to shift. And so, you know,sometimes that does include ending
a relationship or, you know,sometimes you're going through a
breakup that wasn't yourchoice and you need some tools and
strategies for how to movethrough that and come out the other
side, you know, in a. In agood place.
Wow. Okay. How do people. Soare you finding that people kind
of reach out to you maybe whenit's a bit too late, or are you able
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to kind of guide people ineither direction?
Yeah, I have people coming tome from all different points along
the relationship journey. Mostpeople, I would say, reach out after
they've gone through either abreakup or divorce, or maybe they're
in like an on and offrelationship. Like, I was a situationship,
maybe they're dating. But Ireally have had people in kind of
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all the different points ofthat journey. For example, I had
one client who, one man whoseemed like he was going through
a separation with his wife,but he didn't seem to be very clear
about what was happening. Andso I kind of just guided him through
that process, which didultimately lead, you know, to divorce.
But it gave him a lot ofclarity to help him be able to move
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forward rather than just beingstuck in limbo. And I think a lot
of people get stuck in thelimbo of uncertainty. And so I think
it really helps when you havea professional guiding you. You can
gain more certainty about whatdirection you want to go.
Absolutely, absolutely. Okay,so Spain is your, or was, I guess
your turning point. So please,how did you even end up in Spain?
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Why Spain? Or Soften? I'd loveto hear a bit about that, that journey.
Yeah. So I've always enjoyedtravel in general, but I had always
gone with other people and Iwas in this on again, off again relationship,
which means I was goingthrough breakups with the same person
repeatedly for pretty much forsix. It was also a situationship,
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which means it was veryunclear, undefined. I never really
knew what was going on and itreally led to a lot of my own kind
of self worth deterioration,you know, a lot of self doubt, a
lot of negative feelings, youknow, like anxiety, depression, stress.
So, you know, when I was kindof at my lowest point, I realized
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no one was going to come outand like save me or like pull me
out of my funk. And I knewthat I needed to do that myself.
And so I just decided, youknow what, I'm going to challenge
myself to do something that Inever thought that I could do, honestly.
And at that point I was in myearly 30s, so as a grown woman I
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totally should have been ableto, you know, do something like a
solo trip. But it just feltlike this is going to be the biggest
challenge. I'm navigationallychallenged. So, you know, going to
a different country withoutknowing the language yet not really
knowing, you know, subwaysystems and being bad at directions,
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I was like, this is going tohelp me become really independent.
It's going to help gainconfidence to know that I can do
something like this. And itwas also kind of scratching my itch
for learning Spanish. I knew Iwanted to learn the language and
I figured, you know, the bestway to do that is immersion. So that's
why I chose Spain.
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Wow. Okay, so first, were youin one area in Spain or did you kind
of move around?
I moved around. So I based myfirst. I actually went there two
summers in a row. The firstsummer that I went, I went for three
weeks. And because I wanted todo the immersion, I kind of based
where I was going off of thelanguage schools that I found. So
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I, you know, spent some timein some major cities. So I did one
week in Madrid, one week inBarcelona and one week in Malaga.
Were you staying? Is therelike a kind of an accommodation or
lodging that's attached withthese language Schools or did you
have to navigate that as well?
Yeah, so that was also anotherthing. I was really trying to set
myself up for as much successand support as possible since I was
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going there by myself. Sothat's another thing I liked about
the language school is thatthey offered a choice. You could
do a homestay with a family oryou could, you know, they could arrange
an apartment for you. So thefirst year that I went, I did family
homestays, and second summerthat I went, I stayed in an apartment
with other students.
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Nice. How was it with the. The family?
It was good, you know. Youknow, each of them had. Were unique
in their own way. Two of thestays, it was more of just kind of
like a mother of the house,you know, like a house mother where
I didn't spend a whole lot oftime with them, but they were like
there if you needed them, youknow. But the second stay that I
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did, she did have a family andshe, she was like, okay, you need
to be home at, you know,10:00pm each night for dinner. And
I was like, oh, o.
Okay. Oh, that's nice. Yeah.And then what was the difference?
Did you find a differencebetween being with the families and
then being with a roommate?
Yeah, yeah, definitely. They,you know, they each provided their,
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their own values. It's like,you know, eating with the family
allowed me to further practiceSpanish and just kind of experience
a piece of the culture. Imean, even just the fact that we
were eating dinner at 10pm wasway different for what I'm used to.
You know, I'm out, I'm fromjust outside of Boston. I eat dinner,
you know, around 5:00pm andyou know, I'm like, what, dinner
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at 10:00pm? I usually go tobed at like 9:30. So, yeah, it was,
it was nice to kind of hearabout what their day, you know, looked
like. You know, they havesiesta in the middle of the day and
they get to just chill andrelax. And so, yeah, it is a different
experience.
I. So I think sometimes whenpeople want to go traveling, like
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they find themselves havingthat self awareness and then having
that growth and development.But you seem to have gone with that
intention. And yes, there wasthat language, desire to learn, you
know, a different language.But still, I think going in with
the intention probably helpedwith you being able to navigate that
developmental space.
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Yeah, absolutely. And. And Iuse, I mean, I call it travel for
healing in the course that Ihave with my students. And I do a
whole lesson on it becausewhen you. I think a lot of people
and I used to do this a lot,and it's not like a bad thing, but
I think a lot of people justlike go on vacation to kind of escape
their life for a little while,which is great. But then you come
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back to all the same crap thatyou left. Right. And so I knew that
I didn't want that for myself.I wanted this to be an opportunity
for me to be able to kind ofstart fresh when I got back and to
take whatever I experiencedwith me into my everyday life. And
so, you know, in the lesson inmy course, it's like, how can you
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design a travel experiencethat supports you in like the path
you want to be on?
How did you prepare to go toSpain? So I know it was a temporary.
You were doing this oversummer, but still, how did you even.
Yeah, from the idea of wantingto go to Spain to getting to that
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airport, what was that like?
Yeah, so I did do a lot ofresearch in the. On the front end
because again, this was thefirst time I was solo traveling.
First time out of the countryby myself. And I wanted to make sure
that I was safe. So I did alot of research to make sure that
I would be in areas where, youknow, travel. Like, not travel, but
what is the word I'm lookingfor? Like subways and buses and taxis.
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Transportation. That's the word.
Thank you.
I was like, logistics. Whatwas wrong with me? Yeah, I wanted
to make sure thattransportation was like, very easily
accessible to me and alsosafe. So that's why I chose cities.
Not that there's anythingwrong with being out in nature, but
I just, I didn't want to belike in the middle of a jungle by
myself for my first time. Andthen I also researched, you know,
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the language schools and chosethe ones that had activities that
the students could do afterclasses. That way I would be able
to, you know, maybe make somefriends and socialize and also have
some kind of accountability.Like if my teacher knew I didn't
show up all week, like maybesomeone would call my family if I
died or, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, I did that researchto choose the spots I was going to.
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And then I also did like alittle mini practice trip. I borrowed
my parents SUV and went toQuebec City for a weekend. So it
was drivable, you know,relatively close and pretty safe
walled city. So that was areally fun experience too. That's
neat.
So I always, I try to advisepeople, especially when it comes
to traveling. Sometimes we tryto do these like gigantic leaps into
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something new. And you couldjust do a really quick trip that
you could drive to as apractice. Yeah. What was Quebec City
like?
Oh, it's so cute. It's verywalkable. And, you know, there are
great little restaurants allover. Of course, there's the Chateau
Frontenac, you know, theCastle and just very pretty. And
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I knew I just wanted to beable to kind of feel really free
in roaming around andcompletely taking my time to just
explore because this was a.This was a huge part of my life where
I was yearning for my own kindof self exploration. And the physical
act of exploring in a new cityis a part of that.
Yes, absolutely. Going back toSpain, you've gone multiple times.
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What made you keep coming backand why, like, would you ever go
to another Spanish speakingcountry to kind of do the same thing?
Or is Spain like your place to go?
Yeah, I mean, I had such aprofound experience my first time.
I just loved it so much that Ijust, I wanted to go back. I knew
I was gonna go back like whenI left. And I had a completely different
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experience the second time Iwent. The first time I was mostly
by myself when I was doingthings, you know, I had students
and stuff, but I just likereally like wanted to explore and
I roam around by myself and Idid that a lot. The second year when
I went back, I met a womanfrom Miami and she's actually. She
was Russian, but from Miami,living in Miami. And we hit it off
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like right away. And that waslike the first weekend that I was
there. And we spent like thewhole month doing stuff together.
So it was a really differentexperience, but still, you know,
really fun and helpful to mygrowth. And then I did go on to visit
other Spanish speakingcountries by myself. I took a trip
to Cuba, but that was in likea guided tour experience. And then
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I also went to Colombia and Iwas by myself there, but I had a
friend who kind of hooked meup with some, you know, meeting with
some of her family here andthere and, you know, people that
she knew. So I'd have theselike touch points.
Yeah, it's really important.One of the things I think, especially
when I went to Portugal, Ifound it really easy to find different
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networks through Facebook. Andthere's that like, safety aspect,
right, where at least I neededto know that someone in the country
knew where I was and my familycould, yeah, sure, you're going to
be hanging out with thesepeople. Like there's that, that nice
network. I think even whenyou're traveling solo, people tend
to feel like you're alwaysgoing to be by yourself. And there's
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that advantage. Yes. Of, youknow, if you're going to a language
school, sure they're going tobe other people, but you are able
to meet someone and thenconnect with them throughout your
entire stay there.
That's.
How often does that happen for you?
Well, like I said, the othertwo experiences I had after that
and in the Latin countrieswere more. Well, one of them was
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in a group, so I was likealways. But I did find, you know,
I consider myself to be anintrovert. I would rather be inside
myself than like talking toeveryone. And I found that when I
was traveling on my own toSpain. I mean, I was talking to everyone.
I think it's just you allowyourself to be so much more open
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to other people, toconversation that I don't do at home.
And I even really tried to,like, bring that back home with me.
I'm like, I was so kind oflike, extroverted when I was there.
How come?
I, like, shell back up when Iget home. Right. It's like, kind
of weird. But I think also,like, wanting to learn Spanish really
helped me to do that because Iwas like, literally willing to talk
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to anyone who would talk to meso they could practice.
How did you get over that fearand concern of you're now trying
a brand new language inanother country and trying to connect
with other people?
Yeah. And I think a lot ofpeople are fearful about trying to
speak a new language, but Ifind it exciting. So I wouldn't say
that. Like, I wouldn't saythat I had a fear of it. I was just
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always really friendly andsmiley and the people love when you're
trying to speak theirlanguage. So I found that most people
were just like, reallyencouraging. And, you know, I'd find
myself always saying, like, Iunderstand if you speak slowly and
then they would slow down, youknow. So, yeah, I wasn't fearful
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at all. I just kind of likeleapt into it and like, really, really
enjoyed it.
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some takeaways that you gainedfrom that experience? Especially
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Your solo travels? Yeah, Yeah.
I mean, aside from the factthat it was like, life changing for.
For me as like growing my ownself dependence, it really opened
the door to my mind about whatI was capable of because I would
always think of myself like,oh, I'm not the kind of person who
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can do that. Well, why not?Like, after I did that and kind of
proved to myself that I coulddo something that I thought I would
never be able to do, itallowed me to also think about other
things that maybe I thought Iwould never do. Like, write a book
and become an author. Like, Inever ever thought in my whole life
that, like, I would be anauthor. But because of that experience,
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I was like, well, why not? Whycan't I be an author? And so it,
you know, I wrote my memoir,and then after that, you know, it
just like kind of grows oneexperience on the other. Because
then after you do that, I waslike, well, I was a high school biology
teacher for 16 years, and atthat point I wasn't, you know, I
wasn't really feeling itanymore. Like, I really, really wanted
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to go into this, you know,coaching business and help people
in a different way. And so Iwas like, why not shift, Change my
career? Like, I never thought.I thought I was gonna be a teacher
my whole entire life. I'dretire a teacher. Right. And so it
really took a lot for me to.To question that and be like, wait,
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maybe it is possible for me todo something different, leave something
behind. I mean, that was ahuge decision. To go on a path that
is completely unknown, whichis exactly like travel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I always. I still love thattravel has been that developmental
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opportunity I think that youcan use, whether you're trying to
get to know yourself or you'retrying to challenge what you know
of yourself already. Again, wetend to limit what we think we can
do because of our past lifeexperiences. Right. But it's. It's
an incredible, like, it feelslike baby steps as you're enjoying
this experience. You'retraveling, you're getting to know
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people, and then when you comeback to reality and you're like,
I. I am different. I havegrown. I could do so much more than
I thought I could. That'sincredible. What's the. What's the
name of your book or what'sthe name of your memoir?
It's called who Is yous Red?One Woman's Quest to Break Up With
a Love Addiction. My frienddescribes it as a cross between Sex
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and the City and the world ofsalsa dancing.
All Right.
It's very spicy. I will tellpeople. Listen, you have to, like,
explicit content if you. Ifyou want to read my book.
I love the warning. Okay.That's awesome. Yeah.
I have noticed, too, though,to end, because I kind of only partially
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answered your question. Like,the other things that I've gotten
from travel, you know, it'sjust the cultural experience. Like,
it also makes you completelythink about your life and the things
that you worry about, versus,like, seeing all the different ways
that other people in differentcountries live. Their philosophies,
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their culture, theirideologies, their values. Like, I
think it's really importantfor people to be exposed to as many
different things as possiblein life and different people as possible
so that you don't getpigeonholed in your own belief system.
That's a great point. Yeah, Ilike that. Yeah, it's important.
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It's important to remember, asbig as this world is, there are a
lot of things that connect us.And some of the things that make
us different are things thatwe could learn from others. You know,
like you said, especially whenit comes to the different cultures
and the way that people value,like, time. I am always reminded
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of how I'm used to, like, youknow, after. In the afternoon, right?
You're done with work. There'ssomething else to do. You're going
here, you're. There are somany other things to do. And that
time in Portugal, I rememberjust having to slow down. People
are like, I don't. Why are werushing? What are you doing? We're
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gonna have some food. Like,just calm down and take it easy.
And I think it's definitelysomething that I want to continue
to practice. Being here isbeing intentional about my time and
making sure that I amprotecting my peace as. As much as
possible.
That's such a greatobservation, because I've experienced
that as well. It's like, Idon't know, it seems like every other
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country is just, like, waymore chill than we are here in the
US And I'm like, this is sobright. Well, I'm curious.
Where.
Where did you go in Portugal?Because I was able to visit there
many years ago as well.
I was in Porto.
Oh.
And it's so, so cute. But Ithink one of the beautiful things
about it is just where thatriver comes in, you're kind of surrounded
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by. There are two towns oneither side. And it's just. I don't
know, like, it looks like apicture, and it's kind of nice that
when you're in it, it feelsJust as relaxed as it does. Like
from a distance you kind oflook and you see like the, you know,
this old city and it's,there's a little hustle and bustle
around it, but even therethere's still moments of like peace
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and relaxation and. Yeah. ThatI still haven't had a chance to experience
that in the States.
That's awesome. Love that. Andthe seafood. Hello. If you eat seafood.
So good.
Oh my goodness. Yes. Yes I do.And yes, it is like everything. I
know they're little. Thelittle tart like the egg custard.
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Tarts, the pasta duarte, thosewere my favorite when I was there.
I was like, where can I get atruckload of these?
Goodness. So good. Yeah. NowI'm like, I need to make a trip to
Lidl and grab some more. Whatis a self care practice that you
have learned from your travelsthat you practice today?
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That's a great question. Ihave a lot of self care practices,
but one specifically from mytravels honestly is probably to keep
on traveling. Like I think alot of times it's very easy and you
know, I do it too is like youkind of come up with excuses, not
even excuses, but just reasonsof like why you shouldn't or it's
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not a good time, you know,like, oh, it's the holidays, I can't
go somewhere on the holidays.Like what will my family say? Or
I don't have the money totravel right now or you know, how
am I going to get the time offof work? Like I think I really try
to prioritize the fact thatexploration in the form of travel
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is really important to my ownhappiness and personal development.
And so by making it apriority, I figure out how to pay
for that trip or I figure out,you know, how to rearrange my work
schedule so I can go orwhatever it is, you know, I talk
to my family and say, hey, Iknow that you might not like this,
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but this year I'm actuallygoing to go here on Thanksgiving.
It's not like I make a habitof it, but I think there's a lot
of like beliefs and thoughtsthat people just accept and don't
ever challenge. What about you.
There? I think a practice of,of peace that I'm having, it comes
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up every once in a while istrying to be more like actively observant.
I know there are times where Itry to coach as I'm talking to people
and I'm like, we could dothis, this could be great. But I
think something that's comingup is just remembering to kind of
step back and listen, even ifI disagree. And I'm saying that as
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a practice because it is 100%something that I'm still working
on. But I think when I'mtraveling, you know, there's that
curiosity about what peopleare doing and why they're doing it.
And that's something that Iwant to pull into my everyday because
I'm used to that. Right. I'mused to the people. I'm used to probably
how they're going to react tosomething. And I think if I can remind
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myself to do the same, that Iwould in another country is just
to kind of sit back and relaxand just observe. Like, why do you
see that situation the waythat you do? Or why do you think
that way? Or I think that maybe more helpful. It'll probably lead
to more understanding, maybenot agreement, but understanding
of why people are the way thatthey are. So I think that's. Yeah,
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that's one of the things thatI'm. I'm working on.
That's awesome. I love that. Imean, observation is probably the
thing you're doing the mostwhen you're traveling. It's just
like all this newness andlike, different things. And when
you come back to yournormalcy, like, it's more unfamiliar
to do that.
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Yeah, yeah. Because you'relike, I should let me get in there.
Let me interact, let me, youknow. Nah, just attempt to take it
easy. Oh, I have a questionthat I forgot to ask. When you were
navigating the transportation,how did that work out for you? So
were you able to kind ofnavigate and move around in the cities,
or did you find it a bitcomplicated or different?
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Well, I mean, Europe is justso well connected that it was. It
was very easy. You know, Imostly took the subway trains. And
then, you know, every once ina while I would maybe take an Uber.
Like, if I was out partyinglate, you know, I'm like, well, the
trains are done now, so I haveto take an Uber. No, I. I mean, in
Spain, especially, the. Ifound the transportation to be pretty
easy to navigate, but I wouldalways study, like, my subway map,
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like, in my room before Iwould go, just to really have a clear
idea, like, okay, what are mystops? Where is that bringing me?
Because I'm not the kind ofperson that that comes naturally
to. I can't just, like, figureit out in the moment. I need, like,
at least 30 minutes to, like,study the map and figure it out.
But, you know, we're Talkingabout safety, that is also a safety
thing, too, is to make sure,you know, like, your different stops
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and where you're going so thatyou're not trying to figure it out
on the way there.
So, yeah, you don't want tolook. I think you're just being safe,
like, wandering around.
Exactly. We don't want that.
Although I did a lot. I was,like, pulling out my map, like, oh,
my gosh, I have to share. Iknow. It's like 30 minutes. I have
to share this story.
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Yeah, go on, please.
There's this one time inBarcelona. I had been walking for
what seemed like days, and itwas just the mid of summer. The heat
was oppressive, and I wasjust, like, so tired, and I didn't
know where in the world I wasgoing or, like, what to do. Bus to
get on. So I'm sitting thereat this bus stop, standing with my
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huge paper map, like, open infront of me, in front of the subway
map, just, like, looking atthe subway map and then back at my
map and then the subway mapand then back at my map, just, like,
trying to figure it out. Andthe whole time, this, like, old Catalan
woman was just sitting on thebench watching me. And then finally,
she was like, in Spanish,she's like, you need help? And I
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was like, yes, yes. But shethen proceeded to explain what I
should do in Catalan, which isa dialect of Spanish, which I didn't
understand. And she wasspeaking pretty fast. And so at the
end, I was just like, oh,thank you, you know, like, muchas
gracias, you know, And I waslike. So I got on the bus and I sat
down, and she got to the backof the bus, and then I got off at
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a stop, and I, like. I turnedaround to, like, kind of, like, wave
at her, and I. Her face wasjust, like, so, like, confused and,
like, downtrodden, becauseshe's like, no, like, that's how
I told you to take away. I waslike, bye. Oh, my poor woman. She,
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like, thinks I'm hopeless, I'm sure.
Oh, wait, did you get offcompletely or.
Oh, yeah, I got off. And I waslike, all right, wait for the next
bus.
Figure it out. I love that.And you survived.
I did. I did survive. I haveto say that, like, luck, someone
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was on my side watching me. SoI have been lucky in that regard.
I like that.
No, I'm glad you shared thestory. Before we go to questions
one, is there anything that Ihaven't asked that you would like
to share? And then the secondone's Just going to be where we can
find you. So is there anythingthat you'd. Yeah. Anything that you'd
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like to share what's coming upfor you?
Yeah, I mean, I guess I wouldjust like to again, draw the parallel
to pushing yourself outside ofyour comfort zone to do something
that is a unfamiliar, but alsomaybe even like really pushing yourself
to your. To your edge, youknow, and travel a lot of times.
Is that for people? Becausewhen you can do that, you can definitely
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open your mind to see thingsin different ways. And that is a
really, really key tool inhelping you get unstuck from, you
know, let's say a breakup or atoxic relationship or even any kind
of life transition where youjust have this, like, overwhelming
challenge and you're like, Idon't know how I'm going to get through
this. That skill of, like,learning how to see things differently
(29:04):
and being open to. To maybethings you hadn't considered before
can really open up so manyopportunities to have a life way
better than you ever evenimagined for yourself.
Thank you. Well, it's a greatway to wrap up. Oh, also. So you
are including a freebie. Whatis it?
(29:27):
Yes, I love this freebiebecause it's nice and concise. But
then they also have the fullguide for people who like to read.
So it's called my relationshipCheat Sheet Guide. And the very first
page is just like, thisgraphic that can really kind of clearly
help you identify what is yourideal relationship. And, you know,
(29:47):
that can help you figure outif you're currently in the right
relationship or the wrongrelationship, maybe help you figure
out what you want a futurerelationship to look like and also
understand areas where youmight need to shift in order to attract
that into your life. So thatis the cheat sheet, and then it comes
with a pretty comprehensiveguide of the three reasons why men
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and women end up inunfulfilling and toxic relationships
and how to overcome thosethree things.
And we will find that in theshow notes because, yeah, that's
gonna be needed for everyone.Well, thank you so much. Thank you,
Emmy, for being my guest andfor sharing your experience. I really
appreciate it.
Yeah. Thanks for helping meshare these stories with everybody.
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Absolutely. Hey there, Grace.Here. I hope you enjoyed today's
episode and gained some usefultakeaways. Thank you so much for
listening and staying untilthe end. Don't forget to rate the
show or share it with somefriends. Have a wonderful week. Take
care, and remember, be bold,be curious. Be ready to tell your
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Amethyst Palava Hut llc.Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Random
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and Wonderful podcast. Todaymy guest is Emmi and we are going
to chat about her role as alife guide, but also her travel and
excursions and all thedifferent life lessons that she's
learned. So welcome, Emmy.
Thank you. Thank you so muchfor having me, Grace.
You're very welcome. So, abreakup coach. How do we get into
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that and what do you do as abreakup coach? Are you teaching people
how to break up or is it thebefore, after? What do you do?
Great question. I, you know,when I tell people what I do, they
usually say, what, what now?And they need an explanation. So
usually I call myself abreakup and relationship coach. So
(01:12):
I'm not here promotingbreakups. I'm here to help people
through the process if that'sthe direction that they feel like
they need to go. So it's a lotof self discovery work and just kind
of figuring out what your rolehas been in any past relationships
to see if it's serving you,not serving you, what areas you need
(01:32):
to shift. And so, you know,sometimes that does include ending
a relationship or, you know,sometimes you're going through a
breakup that wasn't yourchoice and you need some tools and
strategies for how to movethrough that and come out the other
side, you know, in a. In agood place.
Wow. Okay. How do people. Soare you finding that people kind
of reach out to you maybe whenit's a bit too late, or are you able
(01:57):
to kind of guide people ineither direction?
Yeah, I have people coming tome from all different points along
the relationship journey. Mostpeople, I would say, reach out after
they've gone through either abreakup or divorce, or maybe they're
in like an on and offrelationship. Like, I was a situationship,
maybe they're dating. But Ireally have had people in kind of
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all the different points ofthat journey. For example, I had
one client who, one man whoseemed like he was going through
a separation with his wife,but he didn't seem to be very clear
about what was happening. Andso I kind of just guided him through
that process, which didultimately lead, you know, to divorce.
But it gave him a lot ofclarity to help him be able to move
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forward rather than just beingstuck in limbo. And I think a lot
of people get stuck in thelimbo of uncertainty. And so I think
it really helps when you havea professional guiding you. You can
gain more certainty about whatdirection you want to go.
Absolutely, absolutely. Okay,so Spain is your, or was, I guess
your turning point. So please,how did you even end up in Spain?
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Why Spain? Or Soften? I'd loveto hear a bit about that, that journey.
Yeah. So I've always enjoyedtravel in general, but I had always
gone with other people and Iwas in this on again, off again relationship,
which means I was goingthrough breakups with the same person
repeatedly for pretty much forsix. It was also a situationship,
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which means it was veryunclear, undefined. I never really
knew what was going on and itreally led to a lot of my own kind
of self worth deterioration,you know, a lot of self doubt, a
lot of negative feelings, youknow, like anxiety, depression, stress.
So, you know, when I was kindof at my lowest point, I realized
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no one was going to come outand like save me or like pull me
out of my funk. And I knewthat I needed to do that myself.
And so I just decided, youknow what, I'm going to challenge
myself to do something that Inever thought that I could do, honestly.
And at that point I was in myearly 30s, so as a grown woman I
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totally should have been ableto, you know, do something like a
solo trip. But it just feltlike this is going to be the biggest
challenge. I'm navigationallychallenged. So, you know, going to
a different country withoutknowing the language yet not really
knowing, you know, subwaysystems and being bad at directions,
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I was like, this is going tohelp me become really independent.
It's going to help gainconfidence to know that I can do
something like this. And itwas also kind of scratching my itch
for learning Spanish. I knew Iwanted to learn the language and
I figured, you know, the bestway to do that is immersion. So that's
why I chose Spain.
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Wow. Okay, so first, were youin one area in Spain or did you kind
of move around?
I moved around. So I based myfirst. I actually went there two
summers in a row. The firstsummer that I went, I went for three
weeks. And because I wanted todo the immersion, I kind of based
where I was going off of thelanguage schools that I found. So
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I, you know, spent some timein some major cities. So I did one
week in Madrid, one week inBarcelona and one week in Malaga.
Were you staying? Is therelike a kind of an accommodation or
lodging that's attached withthese language Schools or did you
have to navigate that as well?
Yeah, so that was also anotherthing. I was really trying to set
myself up for as much successand support as possible since I was
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going there by myself. Sothat's another thing I liked about
the language school is thatthey offered a choice. You could
do a homestay with a family oryou could, you know, they could arrange
an apartment for you. So thefirst year that I went, I did family
homestays, and second summerthat I went, I stayed in an apartment
with other students.
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Nice. How was it with the. The family?
It was good, you know. Youknow, each of them had. Were unique
in their own way. Two of thestays, it was more of just kind of
like a mother of the house,you know, like a house mother where
I didn't spend a whole lot oftime with them, but they were like
there if you needed them, youknow. But the second stay that I
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did, she did have a family andshe, she was like, okay, you need
to be home at, you know,10:00pm each night for dinner. And
I was like, oh, o.
Okay. Oh, that's nice. Yeah.And then what was the difference?
Did you find a differencebetween being with the families and
then being with a roommate?
Yeah, yeah, definitely. They,you know, they each provided their,
(06:36):
their own values. It's like,you know, eating with the family
allowed me to further practiceSpanish and just kind of experience
a piece of the culture. Imean, even just the fact that we
were eating dinner at 10pm wasway different for what I'm used to.
You know, I'm out, I'm fromjust outside of Boston. I eat dinner,
you know, around 5:00pm andyou know, I'm like, what, dinner
(06:59):
at 10:00pm? I usually go tobed at like 9:30. So, yeah, it was,
it was nice to kind of hearabout what their day, you know, looked
like. You know, they havesiesta in the middle of the day and
they get to just chill andrelax. And so, yeah, it is a different
experience.
I. So I think sometimes whenpeople want to go traveling, like
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they find themselves havingthat self awareness and then having
that growth and development.But you seem to have gone with that
intention. And yes, there wasthat language, desire to learn, you
know, a different language.But still, I think going in with
the intention probably helpedwith you being able to navigate that
developmental space.
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Yeah, absolutely. And. And Iuse, I mean, I call it travel for
healing in the course that Ihave with my students. And I do a
whole lesson on it becausewhen you. I think a lot of people
and I used to do this a lot,and it's not like a bad thing, but
I think a lot of people justlike go on vacation to kind of escape
their life for a little while,which is great. But then you come
(08:05):
back to all the same crap thatyou left. Right. And so I knew that
I didn't want that for myself.I wanted this to be an opportunity
for me to be able to kind ofstart fresh when I got back and to
take whatever I experiencedwith me into my everyday life. And
so, you know, in the lesson inmy course, it's like, how can you
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design a travel experiencethat supports you in like the path
you want to be on?
How did you prepare to go toSpain? So I know it was a temporary.
You were doing this oversummer, but still, how did you even.
Yeah, from the idea of wantingto go to Spain to getting to that
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airport, what was that like?
Yeah, so I did do a lot ofresearch in the. On the front end
because again, this was thefirst time I was solo traveling.
First time out of the countryby myself. And I wanted to make sure
that I was safe. So I did alot of research to make sure that
I would be in areas where, youknow, travel. Like, not travel, but
what is the word I'm lookingfor? Like subways and buses and taxis.
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Transportation. That's the word.
Thank you.
I was like, logistics. Whatwas wrong with me? Yeah, I wanted
to make sure thattransportation was like, very easily
accessible to me and alsosafe. So that's why I chose cities.
Not that there's anythingwrong with being out in nature, but
I just, I didn't want to belike in the middle of a jungle by
myself for my first time. Andthen I also researched, you know,
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the language schools and chosethe ones that had activities that
the students could do afterclasses. That way I would be able
to, you know, maybe make somefriends and socialize and also have
some kind of accountability.Like if my teacher knew I didn't
show up all week, like maybesomeone would call my family if I
died or, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, I did that researchto choose the spots I was going to.
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And then I also did like alittle mini practice trip. I borrowed
my parents SUV and went toQuebec City for a weekend. So it
was drivable, you know,relatively close and pretty safe
walled city. So that was areally fun experience too. That's
neat.
So I always, I try to advisepeople, especially when it comes
to traveling. Sometimes we tryto do these like gigantic leaps into
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something new. And you couldjust do a really quick trip that
you could drive to as apractice. Yeah. What was Quebec City
like?
Oh, it's so cute. It's verywalkable. And, you know, there are
great little restaurants allover. Of course, there's the Chateau
Frontenac, you know, theCastle and just very pretty. And
(10:44):
I knew I just wanted to beable to kind of feel really free
in roaming around andcompletely taking my time to just
explore because this was a.This was a huge part of my life where
I was yearning for my own kindof self exploration. And the physical
act of exploring in a new cityis a part of that.
Yes, absolutely. Going back toSpain, you've gone multiple times.
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What made you keep coming backand why, like, would you ever go
to another Spanish speakingcountry to kind of do the same thing?
Or is Spain like your place to go?
Yeah, I mean, I had such aprofound experience my first time.
I just loved it so much that Ijust, I wanted to go back. I knew
I was gonna go back like whenI left. And I had a completely different
(11:33):
experience the second time Iwent. The first time I was mostly
by myself when I was doingthings, you know, I had students
and stuff, but I just likereally like wanted to explore and
I roam around by myself and Idid that a lot. The second year when
I went back, I met a womanfrom Miami and she's actually. She
was Russian, but from Miami,living in Miami. And we hit it off
(11:54):
like right away. And that waslike the first weekend that I was
there. And we spent like thewhole month doing stuff together.
So it was a really differentexperience, but still, you know,
really fun and helpful to mygrowth. And then I did go on to visit
other Spanish speakingcountries by myself. I took a trip
to Cuba, but that was in likea guided tour experience. And then
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I also went to Colombia and Iwas by myself there, but I had a
friend who kind of hooked meup with some, you know, meeting with
some of her family here andthere and, you know, people that
she knew. So I'd have theselike touch points.
Yeah, it's really important.One of the things I think, especially
when I went to Portugal, Ifound it really easy to find different
(12:36):
networks through Facebook. Andthere's that like, safety aspect,
right, where at least I neededto know that someone in the country
knew where I was and my familycould, yeah, sure, you're going to
be hanging out with thesepeople. Like there's that, that nice
network. I think even whenyou're traveling solo, people tend
to feel like you're alwaysgoing to be by yourself. And there's
(12:58):
that advantage. Yes. Of, youknow, if you're going to a language
school, sure they're going tobe other people, but you are able
to meet someone and thenconnect with them throughout your
entire stay there.
That's.
How often does that happen for you?
Well, like I said, the othertwo experiences I had after that
and in the Latin countrieswere more. Well, one of them was
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in a group, so I was likealways. But I did find, you know,
I consider myself to be anintrovert. I would rather be inside
myself than like talking toeveryone. And I found that when I
was traveling on my own toSpain. I mean, I was talking to everyone.
I think it's just you allowyourself to be so much more open
(13:44):
to other people, toconversation that I don't do at home.
And I even really tried to,like, bring that back home with me.
I'm like, I was so kind oflike, extroverted when I was there.
How come?
I, like, shell back up when Iget home. Right. It's like, kind
of weird. But I think also,like, wanting to learn Spanish really
helped me to do that because Iwas like, literally willing to talk
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to anyone who would talk to meso they could practice.
How did you get over that fearand concern of you're now trying
a brand new language inanother country and trying to connect
with other people?
Yeah. And I think a lot ofpeople are fearful about trying to
speak a new language, but Ifind it exciting. So I wouldn't say
that. Like, I wouldn't saythat I had a fear of it. I was just
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always really friendly andsmiley and the people love when you're
trying to speak theirlanguage. So I found that most people
were just like, reallyencouraging. And, you know, I'd find
myself always saying, like, Iunderstand if you speak slowly and
then they would slow down, youknow. So, yeah, I wasn't fearful
(14:50):
at all. I just kind of likeleapt into it and like, really, really
enjoyed it.
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some takeaways that you gainedfrom that experience? Especially
(15:35):
Your solo travels? Yeah, Yeah.
I mean, aside from the factthat it was like, life changing for.
For me as like growing my ownself dependence, it really opened
the door to my mind about whatI was capable of because I would
always think of myself like,oh, I'm not the kind of person who
(15:57):
can do that. Well, why not?Like, after I did that and kind of
proved to myself that I coulddo something that I thought I would
never be able to do, itallowed me to also think about other
things that maybe I thought Iwould never do. Like, write a book
and become an author. Like, Inever ever thought in my whole life
that, like, I would be anauthor. But because of that experience,
(16:21):
I was like, well, why not? Whycan't I be an author? And so it,
you know, I wrote my memoir,and then after that, you know, it
just like kind of grows oneexperience on the other. Because
then after you do that, I waslike, well, I was a high school biology
teacher for 16 years, and atthat point I wasn't, you know, I
wasn't really feeling itanymore. Like, I really, really wanted
(16:43):
to go into this, you know,coaching business and help people
in a different way. And so Iwas like, why not shift, Change my
career? Like, I never thought.I thought I was gonna be a teacher
my whole entire life. I'dretire a teacher. Right. And so it
really took a lot for me to.To question that and be like, wait,
(17:04):
maybe it is possible for me todo something different, leave something
behind. I mean, that was ahuge decision. To go on a path that
is completely unknown, whichis exactly like travel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I always. I still love thattravel has been that developmental
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opportunity I think that youcan use, whether you're trying to
get to know yourself or you'retrying to challenge what you know
of yourself already. Again, wetend to limit what we think we can
do because of our past lifeexperiences. Right. But it's. It's
an incredible, like, it feelslike baby steps as you're enjoying
this experience. You'retraveling, you're getting to know
(17:47):
people, and then when you comeback to reality and you're like,
I. I am different. I havegrown. I could do so much more than
I thought I could. That'sincredible. What's the. What's the
name of your book or what'sthe name of your memoir?
It's called who Is yous Red?One Woman's Quest to Break Up With
a Love Addiction. My frienddescribes it as a cross between Sex
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and the City and the world ofsalsa dancing.
All Right.
It's very spicy. I will tellpeople. Listen, you have to, like,
explicit content if you. Ifyou want to read my book.
I love the warning. Okay.That's awesome. Yeah.
I have noticed, too, though,to end, because I kind of only partially
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answered your question. Like,the other things that I've gotten
from travel, you know, it'sjust the cultural experience. Like,
it also makes you completelythink about your life and the things
that you worry about, versus,like, seeing all the different ways
that other people in differentcountries live. Their philosophies,
(18:49):
their culture, theirideologies, their values. Like, I
think it's really importantfor people to be exposed to as many
different things as possiblein life and different people as possible
so that you don't getpigeonholed in your own belief system.
That's a great point. Yeah, Ilike that. Yeah, it's important.
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It's important to remember, asbig as this world is, there are a
lot of things that connect us.And some of the things that make
us different are things thatwe could learn from others. You know,
like you said, especially whenit comes to the different cultures
and the way that people value,like, time. I am always reminded
(19:33):
of how I'm used to, like, youknow, after. In the afternoon, right?
You're done with work. There'ssomething else to do. You're going
here, you're. There are somany other things to do. And that
time in Portugal, I rememberjust having to slow down. People
are like, I don't. Why are werushing? What are you doing? We're
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gonna have some food. Like,just calm down and take it easy.
And I think it's definitelysomething that I want to continue
to practice. Being here isbeing intentional about my time and
making sure that I amprotecting my peace as. As much as
possible.
That's such a greatobservation, because I've experienced
that as well. It's like, Idon't know, it seems like every other
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country is just, like, waymore chill than we are here in the
US And I'm like, this is sobright. Well, I'm curious.
Where.
Where did you go in Portugal?Because I was able to visit there
many years ago as well.
I was in Porto.
Oh.
And it's so, so cute. But Ithink one of the beautiful things
about it is just where thatriver comes in, you're kind of surrounded
(20:38):
by. There are two towns oneither side. And it's just. I don't
know, like, it looks like apicture, and it's kind of nice that
when you're in it, it feelsJust as relaxed as it does. Like
from a distance you kind oflook and you see like the, you know,
this old city and it's,there's a little hustle and bustle
around it, but even therethere's still moments of like peace
(20:58):
and relaxation and. Yeah. ThatI still haven't had a chance to experience
that in the States.
That's awesome. Love that. Andthe seafood. Hello. If you eat seafood.
So good.
Oh my goodness. Yes. Yes I do.And yes, it is like everything. I
know they're little. Thelittle tart like the egg custard.
(21:20):
Tarts, the pasta duarte, thosewere my favorite when I was there.
I was like, where can I get atruckload of these?
Goodness. So good. Yeah. NowI'm like, I need to make a trip to
Lidl and grab some more. Whatis a self care practice that you
have learned from your travelsthat you practice today?
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That's a great question. Ihave a lot of self care practices,
but one specifically from mytravels honestly is probably to keep
on traveling. Like I think alot of times it's very easy and you
know, I do it too is like youkind of come up with excuses, not
even excuses, but just reasonsof like why you shouldn't or it's
(22:05):
not a good time, you know,like, oh, it's the holidays, I can't
go somewhere on the holidays.Like what will my family say? Or
I don't have the money totravel right now or you know, how
am I going to get the time offof work? Like I think I really try
to prioritize the fact thatexploration in the form of travel
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is really important to my ownhappiness and personal development.
And so by making it apriority, I figure out how to pay
for that trip or I figure out,you know, how to rearrange my work
schedule so I can go orwhatever it is, you know, I talk
to my family and say, hey, Iknow that you might not like this,
(22:49):
but this year I'm actuallygoing to go here on Thanksgiving.
It's not like I make a habitof it, but I think there's a lot
of like beliefs and thoughtsthat people just accept and don't
ever challenge. What about you.
There? I think a practice of,of peace that I'm having, it comes
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up every once in a while istrying to be more like actively observant.
I know there are times where Itry to coach as I'm talking to people
and I'm like, we could dothis, this could be great. But I
think something that's comingup is just remembering to kind of
step back and listen, even ifI disagree. And I'm saying that as
(23:31):
a practice because it is 100%something that I'm still working
on. But I think when I'mtraveling, you know, there's that
curiosity about what peopleare doing and why they're doing it.
And that's something that Iwant to pull into my everyday because
I'm used to that. Right. I'mused to the people. I'm used to probably
how they're going to react tosomething. And I think if I can remind
(23:54):
myself to do the same, that Iwould in another country is just
to kind of sit back and relaxand just observe. Like, why do you
see that situation the waythat you do? Or why do you think
that way? Or I think that maybe more helpful. It'll probably lead
to more understanding, maybenot agreement, but understanding
of why people are the way thatthey are. So I think that's. Yeah,
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that's one of the things thatI'm. I'm working on.
That's awesome. I love that. Imean, observation is probably the
thing you're doing the mostwhen you're traveling. It's just
like all this newness andlike, different things. And when
you come back to yournormalcy, like, it's more unfamiliar
to do that.
(24:37):
Yeah, yeah. Because you'relike, I should let me get in there.
Let me interact, let me, youknow. Nah, just attempt to take it
easy. Oh, I have a questionthat I forgot to ask. When you were
navigating the transportation,how did that work out for you? So
were you able to kind ofnavigate and move around in the cities,
or did you find it a bitcomplicated or different?
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Well, I mean, Europe is justso well connected that it was. It
was very easy. You know, Imostly took the subway trains. And
then, you know, every once ina while I would maybe take an Uber.
Like, if I was out partyinglate, you know, I'm like, well, the
trains are done now, so I haveto take an Uber. No, I. I mean, in
Spain, especially, the. Ifound the transportation to be pretty
easy to navigate, but I wouldalways study, like, my subway map,
(25:24):
like, in my room before Iwould go, just to really have a clear
idea, like, okay, what are mystops? Where is that bringing me?
Because I'm not the kind ofperson that that comes naturally
to. I can't just, like, figureit out in the moment. I need, like,
at least 30 minutes to, like,study the map and figure it out.
But, you know, we're Talkingabout safety, that is also a safety
thing, too, is to make sure,you know, like, your different stops
(25:47):
and where you're going so thatyou're not trying to figure it out
on the way there.
So, yeah, you don't want tolook. I think you're just being safe,
like, wandering around.
Exactly. We don't want that.
Although I did a lot. I was,like, pulling out my map, like, oh,
my gosh, I have to share. Iknow. It's like 30 minutes. I have
to share this story.
(26:08):
Yeah, go on, please.
There's this one time inBarcelona. I had been walking for
what seemed like days, and itwas just the mid of summer. The heat
was oppressive, and I wasjust, like, so tired, and I didn't
know where in the world I wasgoing or, like, what to do. Bus to
get on. So I'm sitting thereat this bus stop, standing with my
(26:28):
huge paper map, like, open infront of me, in front of the subway
map, just, like, looking atthe subway map and then back at my
map and then the subway mapand then back at my map, just, like,
trying to figure it out. Andthe whole time, this, like, old Catalan
woman was just sitting on thebench watching me. And then finally,
she was like, in Spanish,she's like, you need help? And I
(26:50):
was like, yes, yes. But shethen proceeded to explain what I
should do in Catalan, which isa dialect of Spanish, which I didn't
understand. And she wasspeaking pretty fast. And so at the
end, I was just like, oh,thank you, you know, like, muchas
gracias, you know, And I waslike. So I got on the bus and I sat
down, and she got to the backof the bus, and then I got off at
(27:13):
a stop, and I, like. I turnedaround to, like, kind of, like, wave
at her, and I. Her face wasjust, like, so, like, confused and,
like, downtrodden, becauseshe's like, no, like, that's how
I told you to take away. I waslike, bye. Oh, my poor woman. She,
(27:33):
like, thinks I'm hopeless, I'm sure.
Oh, wait, did you get offcompletely or.
Oh, yeah, I got off. And I waslike, all right, wait for the next
bus.
Figure it out. I love that.And you survived.
I did. I did survive. I haveto say that, like, luck, someone
(27:56):
was on my side watching me. SoI have been lucky in that regard.
I like that.
No, I'm glad you shared thestory. Before we go to questions
one, is there anything that Ihaven't asked that you would like
to share? And then the secondone's Just going to be where we can
find you. So is there anythingthat you'd. Yeah. Anything that you'd
(28:17):
like to share what's coming upfor you?
Yeah, I mean, I guess I wouldjust like to again, draw the parallel
to pushing yourself outside ofyour comfort zone to do something
that is a unfamiliar, but alsomaybe even like really pushing yourself
to your. To your edge, youknow, and travel a lot of times.
Is that for people? Becausewhen you can do that, you can definitely
(28:41):
open your mind to see thingsin different ways. And that is a
really, really key tool inhelping you get unstuck from, you
know, let's say a breakup or atoxic relationship or even any kind
of life transition where youjust have this, like, overwhelming
challenge and you're like, Idon't know how I'm going to get through
this. That skill of, like,learning how to see things differently
(29:04):
and being open to. To maybethings you hadn't considered before
can really open up so manyopportunities to have a life way
better than you ever evenimagined for yourself.
Thank you. Well, it's a greatway to wrap up. Oh, also. So you
are including a freebie. Whatis it?
(29:27):
Yes, I love this freebiebecause it's nice and concise. But
then they also have the fullguide for people who like to read.
So it's called my relationshipCheat Sheet Guide. And the very first
page is just like, thisgraphic that can really kind of clearly
help you identify what is yourideal relationship. And, you know,
(29:47):
that can help you figure outif you're currently in the right
relationship or the wrongrelationship, maybe help you figure
out what you want a futurerelationship to look like and also
understand areas where youmight need to shift in order to attract
that into your life. So thatis the cheat sheet, and then it comes
with a pretty comprehensiveguide of the three reasons why men
(30:08):
and women end up inunfulfilling and toxic relationships
and how to overcome thosethree things.
And we will find that in theshow notes because, yeah, that's
gonna be needed for everyone.Well, thank you so much. Thank you,
Emmy, for being my guest andfor sharing your experience. I really
appreciate it.
Yeah. Thanks for helping meshare these stories with everybody.
(30:32):
Absolutely. Hey there, Grace.Here. I hope you enjoyed today's
episode and gained some usefultakeaways. Thank you so much for
listening and staying untilthe end. Don't forget to rate the
show or share it with somefriends. Have a wonderful week. Take
care, and remember, be bold,be curious. Be ready to tell your
story. You never know whoneeds it.
(30:53):
Bye.
Bye.
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