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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:36):
Wow, what a week it has been, and we had
to start off. I guess in chronological order, we'll be
talking with a conversation we had on the interview we
had right after Speaker Johnson was in fact voted in
again with Ralph Norman. That interview be coming up in
just a few minutes. We also had a very interesting
opportunity to speak with Sheriff Leon Lott this week.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah, and of course the news out of DC has
been overwhelming. Obviously, some of it has to do with
Los Angeles and how they're funding that and what they've
done out there, but really the swamp has been in
rare form this week and it ends on Friday morning
with Donald Trump being sentenced to.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Nothing a felon.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
He's still a felon, and he can he's allowed to
go ahead and file an appeal on that. But nothing,
there is no punishment for which is so bizarre because
it's like, well, it was so important that you bring this,
and the judge kept saying, it's such a big difference
to you know, you've got to make sure that there's
no rules for thee and not for me, and everybody
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kept saying, the thing you're charging Donald Trump with doesn't exist.
There is no crime. You've convicted him of a felony.
But now the judge on Friday morning having to admit
he is special. If he was a regular citizen, we
would have sentenced him to prison. But the office of
the Presidency and the protections that come with that, I
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have to acknowledge that we cannot do anything to him.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Amazing, a crime that had no victim, has no punishment. Okay,
we'll come full circle now, Hey, we'll get into more
of that coming up in Swamp Talk on the Jonathan
nic Kelly Show. Thank you for being here. It's Saturday morning.
We pre record this on Friday mornings. We've just been
watching the sleep come down, and like a Dan Fogelberg's song,
the sleet has now turned to rain. We'll see what
kind of freezing conditions we'll be dealing with it. This
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broadcast actually airs on WVOC. Thank you again for being here,
and we will kick it off today with a conversation
we had on Monday with Congressman Ralph Norman.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Good morning, glad to be with you.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, the eyes of a nation. I know my eyes
were watching when your first vote came in for House
of Representatives, and then we saw there were three votes
that did not go for Mike Johnson. You were one
of them. But then as we waited much anticipation, you
in fact did change your vote and voted for Johnson
for Speaker. Tell us what's your mind in your conversations?
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Well, first of all, if you look at where we
are as a country, what has Congress done right other
than spend your money? Tell me one thing that Congress
has done that other than you know, put additional debt
on people. What happened? I didn't know how four hundred
and thirty five members are going to vote. But here's
my frustration. Since November fifth, this date is very important
after the election, where the Republicans had taken the House,
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had taken the Senate, and Donald Trump had won. Since
that date, we've added over three hundred billion in spending.
We were presented with a fifteen hundred and forty seven
page call it a bill, call it whatever you want,
given twelve hours to read it. Under Mike Johnson, we
had another one hundred and ten billing added to the
deficit and given the Biden administration pretty much authority to
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do what he wanted. The bottom line on all of this,
I used my one vote and it took an extra
hour to just express again to Mike Johnson that we're
tired of it. And we had had a meeting the
day before, two hour meeting, and it was just more
we're gonna try this, We're gonna try that. So I
just had it. You know, I got hit with all
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the media. Look at the optics, nor I mean, look
at the optics. Well, do the optics matter more than
the outcome? Is an extra hour? Really? That is the
sun not gonna come up. But what happened on the floor.
Nancy Mace said, you want to talk to President Trump?
I said, I'd be glad to. I like him. I've
supported him, voted for him. Now I've voted for Haley.
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I mean I've supported her initially. But anyway, gone the
Frohne had a great conversation. He said, I was interrupting
his golf game. I said, miss President, I'm sorry about that.
He said, we need to get on board. I said, well,
you need to call Mike Johnson. He said, okay. So
that's when we went in the back room and you know,
we just started me, Keith Solf and I think maybe
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one or two others and just said, look, what's gonna change.
I'm tired of just the same old thing. Are you
gonna put people on rules committee that are conservative? Are
you gonna put somebody in the room that's going to ask,
fight and debate why we're not getting offsets for increased spending?
And he said, I promised to do that. I said, well, Mike,
we've had these conversations and I like you. You're a Christian.
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I trust what you say. Said no, they said, let
me tell you this. If I don't do what i'm
telling you, put me out. I said, well, we will
do that. We had seven people who did not vote,
and then we had three of us who voted. You know,
against him, but ultimately it worked out. I would do
it again. For those who are criticizing me now and
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threatening all this stuff. Look, I'm never gonna sell my vote.
I'm one of four hundred and thirty five votes, and
I'm gonna use it in the way that I think
does American people in the fifth district. Well, and that's
the backdrop of it. I didn't get anything. I mean,
it was anything promised to Ralph Norman. South Carolina's not
gonna get billions of dollars and spend thrift things. We
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just had a promise. Mike, that is speaker. He's gonna
use his leverage and he's going to have to have
Trump back him up. Which I'm not worried.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
About that talking with the Congressman Ralph Norman. Where you know,
as we record this, it's the morning of January sixth,
twenty twenty five, the four year anniversary of what happened
at the Capitol, and I know that that's an emotional
thing for a lot of people on both sides of
the issue. Donald Trump says that he's going to pardon most,
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if not all, I guess of the one thousand, five
hundred and eighty people who have been charged. What are
your thoughts on that? And I guess maybe use that
as the backdrop, you know, compared to what Joe Biden's
been pardoning the last few weeks.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
It's more than just sad. It's what Joe Biden is doing,
given George Soros and Hillary Clinton the Medal of Freedom
and pardon the criminals that had killed people. Donald Trump
is exactly right to pardon those who went to jail
without even a trial. You know, if you and I
get a speaking ticket, we get to a lawyer and
go to court these people and put in jail for
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what three years now? Some of them have died, Some
of them had cancer and couldn't get treated. This Biden
administration is a crime syndicate, and they're proven it, and
who they're giving medals to, they're proven it in what
they're doing. And it's just sick.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I made myself, although I wanted to hip mute about
twenty times, listen to hakem at the House of Representatives
after the vote on Friday. The amount of bs that
rolls out of this man's mouth. And one of the
things that apparently is the big agenda and the talking
point that went out to all Democrats is tell everyone
that the Republicans are going to cut Social Security and
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Medicare and Medicaid benefits.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Hakeem Jefferies. Their whipping boy has always been you're gonna
cut Social Security, You're gonna push old ladies off the cliff.
That's not true. Now is it okay to let so
Security go bankrupt and have a twenty eight percent cut? No,
but the press and items today are just what Donald
Trump laid out. What this administration has done is let
fifteen million criminals people. We don't know that background. We
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will pay a severe price, both financially and otherwise. But no,
he's a partisan. You know. This isn't the days even
in ninety four when the Republican he had a way
of Republicans coming in. What we're facing now with the
Democrats are pure socialism. Government is their god. They can
try to use those talking points. But I got news
for Keim Jeffries. On November fifth, seventy six million people
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voted for Donald Trump. Seventy six million people put the
Republicans in charge and the Senate and the House. Now
we got to do something with it. If we just
go along to get along. I'm just not going to
do that. But if we do and continue to add debt,
continue just not question anything, then we're going to end
up at the same place.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Very frustrated as a nation. I'm sure you're frustrated as
a congress person as we see the Biden administration accelerate
the insanity on their way out the door. Is there
anything that the Congress can do to stop him? And
are they not doing it now?
Speaker 6 (09:02):
He does everything by executive order. I don't know that
if there's been another president that's just done it, he's unlawful.
I mean, yes, you can do executive orders. But as
Tom Holman said, who is a true patriot and who's
going to get this border situation stop? The wall is
going to be built, the deportation is going to take place.
They're doing everything they can to stop them. We had
a meeting with him and I said, mister told me
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that their intend is to stop you. He says, it's
not going to work. We're going to start bringing action. Democrats,
those who attempt to stop Donald Trump now need consequences
and what they've done to him both, you know, with
weaponizing the Judicial Department, and we almost had a present
that was killed on live TV. He was a centimeter away.
You had a second attempt at him, you had two
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impeachment trials. I mean, it's a travesty what they've done.
But it's up to us to get it to at
least try to get it back right. And I think
we will.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Well, I know your tom is limited with us. I
know that you and one of the other holdouts on
the first vote to Congressman Sell, are pushing for a
transparency on the budget reconciliation process and also making sure
that Speaker Johnson pushes ambitious legislation on the border, energy
and taxes. If you can get that done here in
the first couple of one hundred days, that'd be great.
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But you're going to have a big battle when it
goes over to the Senate for that budget reconciliation process.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
What I've learned in Congress, every dollar spent has got
an advocate. How has that worked out for America? It hasn't.
So Yes, it's going to be the real the preview
coming attractions. If you think you've seen fights over this
little thing, I did you wait. You see when we
start cutting things and the doose commissions start listing boondoggle,
things that are just unconscionable in anti American that our
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tax dollars are going to. That's where the fight's going
to be. But uh, I'm glad we're having to fight.
We got the people to do it. We got the
gavel and we got to We've got to produce now,
I mean that's what the American people expect.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Got it all. Now, you got the White House and
the House.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
I mean, you guys really got to. Whatever happened is
going to be on y'all.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
It is and it should be. I mean, I'm tired
and I told the Speaker this to say, we've only
got one one seat majority. Look, we've got the we've
got the gabble unless you use it, and it's going
to take some strong arm and of politicians both Democrat
and Republicans.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Well, I hope that you're able to continue to push
not only for your initiatives to make sure they remain priorities,
but you put it on an expedited level to make
sure we get it done to the first one hundred days,
because you really only have eighteen months, Congressman, to make
sure that.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
This term goes well.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Donald D. Trump and for the country to make sure
your initiatives have followed through and then protects you in
the upcoming midterm elections.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
No, we don't have a twelve to thirteen months. If
people start jockeying and running for office in January of
twenty five, it's a short time frame.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I hope that Speaker Johnson takes your words to heart,
because you're right that first fifteen hundred page proposition he
made was woefully short of where we need to be.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
We can't have that. It's ridiculous what goes on. But
talking about it one thing, I'll do something about it.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
And now since we recorded that interview on Monday, we
have a Ralph Norman update, a big push. We're both celebrating.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, Ralph Norman. On Monday afternoon, shortly after he spoke
with us, he also then proposed a new bill for
term limits. I think he got a bunch of fellow
South Carolinians to go along with that. I think Joe
Wilson's in on that. Has seemed like a distant dream
that you could ever get the Congress to vote for
term limits, but with Trump pushing for it and now
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a bunch of people both in the Senate and the House.
Following Ralph Norman's lead on this, it looks like it's possible.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
It could be the dawn of a new day, the
beginning of Trump, says, the new Golden Age. We're getting
the more of that coming up in segment three. Hey,
in just a second, we're going to talk about what's
going to be one of the first initiatives we understand
on Tuesday when the General Assembly gabbles back in for
their session, and one of the things that'll be working
on is apparently going to go straight from the Senate
floor over to the State Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Well maybe, I mean, it seems like the biggest thing
that they don't want to have happen is for you,
the public, to actually even comment on this. And this
is being led by the Republicans in South Carolina. This
is a very anti conservative move by the Conservatives, alleged
conservatives in South Carolina.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
We'll talk about the private school vouchers next.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
The Jonathan and Kelly show. Jonathan Rush, great meeting, there's
great unity.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
One bill, two bills, doesn't matter to me, but the
end result is going to.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Be the same.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Kelly Nash Number one with closing.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
The borders and we're going to have to take people
out that are criminal.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
It's one of the reasons I won the election in
the landslide.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show just part of the incredible
week for DJT. Met with the senators, met with governors,
and we can get into more of that coming up
in just a minute and segment three for swamp Talk.
But Tuesday is going to be a big day here
in South Carolina where our legislators gabbled themselves back to order.
The state Senate lawmakers are now signaling plans that the
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opening days of the session will be to revive a
botched plan to use public dollars to fund private school vouchers.
I know know you're saying, hadn't this been going on?
This debate has been going on for a while. Yes,
it went through the Supreme Court, got kicked back. That
was followed up by a lawsuit from parents who want
to know why we can't get our money. Now we've
already transfer our kids, we started using the money. Now
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you're going to pull it out from under us. But
we're seeing such improvement from our kids using this money
for whichever school they decided to send their kid. To well,
now we've got to figure out a way if we
can get around the Supreme Court ruling that you're using
public dollars to fund private education.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I agree with everything that the Republicans are trying to
do here. I agree with the idea what you want
to get done. I think that's a great goal. Lots
of other states do have similar funding mechanisms right now.
I also like the fact that you have found an
alternative around what the state Supreme Court did when they
struck it down in September. So the idea is that
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they're going to start using the lottery dollars as great
Hembry says, he is the chairman of the Education Committee.
He says, because it's not something that would actually come
into the general fund, then the Supreme Court says we
can use it as we see fit. What I am
absolutely disgusted by is that he goes on to say,
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we don't want public comments on this.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
We got to rush it down a subcommittee, take us
straight to the Senate floor a vote on it. What's
the problem. We got to get this thing done, Chop chop.
We got parents waiting for this money, Kelly.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
In order to bypass the actual way that a bill
is supposed to be passed. He needs to get one
of his senators to request the bill to be moved
quote without reference, and then has to have a vote
in the Senate of more than three quarters of the
Senate to pass that. And then you have then eliminated
the public from having a comment on this. That is
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a horrible idea. I don't know why you would want
to set that precedent, and I also don't understand the
benefit of it, because if you pass now this week,
or if you pass it in October, it still is
not going to be implemented till next year.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Well, I guess everybody they would think that their constituency
would be glad to know they're expediting this process, particularly
since you now already have persons taking advantage of the opportunity.
Although we got that Supreme Court challenge coming up through
a lawsuit, but even with the constituency fully behind you,
I'm assuming that you ascertain that information in your community
hearings and meetings, but still to come back in to
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set the precedent and then actually give Brad Huddo a
legitimate argument about you is not going to lend itself
to great press coming out of the state newspaper, the
Posting Courier, or any of the local news.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Well, the good news is South Carolinians, like most Americans,
couldn't give a crap about local media or national media
or anything like that. But you know, when Daryl Jackson
from Richland and Ronnie sab from Williamsburg are saying we
are cautioning you against skipping through the legislative process, that
they're right. I don't want to say it, I hate
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saying it, but the Democrats are right on this that
one of the more things that are like a plank
in the conservative movement would be transparency. We want to
know what our government's doing. We want to be able
to talk to our government about what they're going to do.
And the fact that you want to skip that process
and I get it. Look, there's going to be a
bunch of activists. There's going to be some education reformers
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or anti reformers, I guess is what we should call them.
We're going to try to clog down the system. Understood,
that's their rights though, Let them have their rights and
then overwhelmingly pass it and then go to court over
it and get the Supreme Court to say you're right,
and then we'll have this hammered out for the fall
of twenty twenty six, which is basically the first you
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could implement it anyway.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Well, it just smacks of the fact that if you're
going to bypass what would typically be the bill, as
Kelly pointed out, the steps you would go through, so
you can go and get it over to the Supreme Court,
you're actually given like a wink is as good as
a nod to a blind horse. That you know, the
Supreme Court this time, because of the makeup, is not
going to have the pushback you have previous. So we'll
just go ahead and jam this thing through and then
move forward so we can take on other bigger issues
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that South Carolinians are very concerned about, I am, like energy.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
This doesn't actually take up any time other than the
couple of days that you would have to listen to
people who come and stand there. You're talking about a
grand total of about six hours of public comments, and
for six hours that is your duty to serve us
and let the people come. And there're probably be some
people that are pro for this, so just let the
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people do their thing.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, why not just go ahead and go through the
quick process and get it done on the Senate floor,
as you always will, make sure you get the public
input that you need. You've already got the votes. You
know you got the votes. They did the math already.
It's not like suddenly somebody's going to change their mind
of this group of super delegated.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Senate Greg Henbry wouldn't even be floating this idea of
skipping through the process if he didn't have three quarters
of the Senate ready to skip over that. You're a Republican,
You're supposed to be conservative. Part of it being a
conservative is let the people talk. You're shutting down the
public and I know if it was true on the
other side, we would be freaking out. Are you're afraid
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of what we're going to say to you? You don't
even want to get us on the record saying it.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
We'll find out what the pre filing of the bills,
of the agendas it rolls out on Tuesday, if that
keeps its primary position. As we open up the South
Carolina Centant and the General Assembly on Tuesday, we'll hold
our breath to see how that flesh is out. We
had a lot of stuff to flush out of the
swamp this week. We'll be talking about that coming up
in just a second.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Jonathan Rush, Panama Canal is vital to our country.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
It's being operated by China.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
China, Kelly Nash, we need Greenland.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
For national security. Prop that's for the free world. I'm
talking about protecting the free world.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
There's that crazy talk, crazy talk, those damned imperialist conservative
Republicans again taking over Lamb masses.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Yeah, we're coming for you Greenland.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Said he wants to be the Pope of Greenland.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I mean, it's really Donald Trump has an unbelievable ability
to shift narratives, and you know, the jokes that he
makes sometimes become reality. And when he was jokingly saying
We're going to make Canada the fifty first state, that
actually had repercussions that led to the downfall of Justin Trudeau.
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And there is a movement within the national Canadian populace.
Two things. One it appears that they're going to elect
a conservative to replace Trudeau. And two some of the
people are now pushing for can we become the fifty
first state. We would love to be an American. We
would certainly pay in comparison to be a dirt poor
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Canadian if you put the tariffs on him, because Trudeau
knows that there's no way Canada continued to float financially
if that happened. Yeah, if you can't exist as a
nation without ripping us off, you know for billions of dollars,
you're not doing a very good job. So, I mean,
you got that the Greenland thing? Who on there? You know,
I hate that phrase on my bingo card. But who
had you know the US to take over Greenland anywhere
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on their radar in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I know Donald Trump kept saying the other day that
a lot of people have been talking about this long
before ever became president. I never read ay think about
us taking over Greenland? Did you No?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
But we don't run in the same circles as him either.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I don't know who a lot of people would be
hadn't been the Senators or the House members who've been
following No.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
And but you know the idea that suddenly you've got
Russian and Canadians using that northern shipping lane north of Greenland.
As the ice continues to melt around the polar caps
that made that available and they want to take over
that area of that Well, if we own it, then
then we're not exposed. And not only are we not
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exposed to Donald Trump says the world is safer if
America is because what's Denmark going to do?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Well. It was a strange It was a strange space
sharing as we watched the salute and MSNBCCNN the unbelievable
rewriting of history for the Jimmy Carter administration, knowing that
Carter turned over the Panama Canal and now this week
we're talking about China. Actually, although they don't control it,
the Panamanians would tell you they do have a port
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of on both sides. But in the middle part we're
all good.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
I mean, China has set themselves up very well, not
only with the Panama Canal because that is something like
sixty percent of our goods come through the Panama Canal,
but also there's other shipping lanes that they are now
kind of in control of, where if we were to
try to enforce anything against China, they could destroy the
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US economy by just shutting down the Panama Canal and
kind of slowing down other shipping lanes and you know,
for those of you who think it might not be
possible or whatever, just look at what happened when they
slow walked the shipping routes just off the coast of
La What was that two, three, four years ago? I
can't remember the year. Would we have something like up
to like thirty ships or something. We're sitting out, you know,
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a mile or two off the coast and they couldn't
get in because we had some sort of port problems
or whatever. Imagine if it was three hundred ships.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Even if you weren't slow walking it, you're going to
add that amount of time to go all the way
around the horn to come back up on the other side.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
There's so many other things that are happening right now.
I saw this press release Lindsey Graham sent out on
Thursday night, and he wants to congratulate the House. On Thursday,
the House passed something called the Illegitimate Court Counteraction Act.
They are actually really targeting the International Criminal Court with
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this bill. And this is after if you remember, the
ICC had arrest warrants put out for Israel's Prime minister
and former defense minister. They wanted net and who in jail.
You know, that's even further out there than the Trump
case in New York. So now it overwhelmingly passed in
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the House on Thursday, two forty three to one forty.
It's going to get a chance in the Senate now.
So Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton are going to lead
the effort, and they're excited. Can we put sanctions on
the ICC because you throw around to something called the
International Criminal Court and liberals fall down and lick the
boots of anybody who works there.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
And although the people were holding at GIMO don't actually
fall into the category as it would be in that legislation. Meanwhile,
Joe Biden is turning out people that we've been holding
at GEMO and putting them back in the battlefield ready
to line up against Israel or US or whoever.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yeah, we were talking about that. I guess it was
earlier this week. I think it was eleven prisoners and
Afghanistan are from Afghanistan, known actual terrorists that Joe Biden
just decides to release. I mean, this guy is he's
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beyond dangerous.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Now I would like to use the word criminal, although
the definition would not allow that. Although now you can
celebrate the fact the Democrats are there is a criminal
definition for felon, although I think Trump really got a
little excited about that in actuality in the history books.
Another first for Donald J. Trump. Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Thirty seven felonies? And so he is. And I saw
a couple of news guys who are supposed to be
the fair and biased ones. They're not the commentators, they're
the like NBC news reporters, very excited. Now you can
call him a convicted felon, and it's like, Okay, he's
a convicted felain. But the reality of the situation is
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you got nothing. I've never heard of a convicted felon
receiving no sentence, an unconditional release, meaning it's like it
never happened at all. There's no fines, there's no jail time,
there's no obation, there's nothing. The New York taxpayers paid
millions of dollars for this because he was such a
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threat to New York and you got no punishment, and
there was a result. The result was with Alvin Bragg
bringing this suit, spending millions of dollars from the New
York taxpayers. You drove Donald Trump's pull numbers up. You
actually helped force Joe Biden out of the race, gave
us an easier target in Kamala.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It's amazing. If you actually had an award ceremony for
the Trump campaign, the persons who would have to get
the biggest awards thus far would be Alvin Bragg, Letitia James,
Fannie Willis, all the people who came up. Oh Jack
Jack Smith wanted to make sure that he made his case.
And on top of that, you almost have to throw
in Joe Biden's administration because we know behind the scenes
we had all types of meetings at the Oval Office
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having to do with the Georgia case as well Joe
Biden's influence, although he says he keep been an armed
distance between him and Merrick Garland, those persons would have
to of the ward for the Trump campaign to put
him back into office.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
And it is one of the things I think it
was a Trump's attorney when I was listening Friday morning,
he was talking to the judge and he was saying
something to the point of, not only do I strongly disagree,
Council strongly disagrees with what the district attorney has put
forth here and what you and your ruling have convicted
of him. I strongly disagree. The Council disagrees. He then
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went on to say, numerous legal experts have authored opinions
and disagreement that this should have ever been charged. And finally,
the American people heard your case and decided there is
no merit to this case and that's why they overwhelmingly
are sending Donald Trump back to the presidency. And then
I felt bad, almost for Judge Marshan. I'm not really
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felt bad, but I kind of felt bad because you know,
he's been one of those guys who've been saying there
can't be two levels of justice, right, every person has
to stand accountable. And then he has to say in court, well,
because he is going to be the next president, there's
a security that is required for the presidency, and he
want I want to make sure you understand it's not
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the individual, it's the office. But because of that, I
have to factor that in and say we can't impose
anything on him. Now, wait a second, So there are
two levels. He wouldn't have been charged if he wasn't running, right,
and so I guess it's appropriate that since he's been convicted,
you can't give him any punishment because he won.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Well, I can't wait to see Adam shift again on
this Sunday morning, because last Sunday morning, he was saying,
as he's always said, he pointed out Donald Trump should
be treated as any other private citizen facing like charges.
And as soon as he said the term like charges,
I busted out laughing because there would be no charges.
There has never been a case like this. And then
he quickly backpedaled on that so he could rephrase it
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in such a way that he wouldn't use the word
like charges. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I mean again, every one of the Donald Trump cases,
and there's been several, you're hard pressed to find a victim.
And I would even say that about what's her face?
Who got like one hundred billion dollars or whatever from him?
And what was her name? Again, the lady Egene Carroll.
She was not a victim. If she was a victim,
she would have talked about it to somebody. The first
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time she brought it up was fourteen years after the event,
and that was at a cocktail party bragging about it.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Well, today is the eleventh of January. Given that we
pre record this on Friday, it's the tenth of January.
But we have about a week and a half now
for Joe Biden to continue to spend money as we're
seeing this peaceful transfer of power out of the Biden administration,
not only taking tax payer of money and spending in
any way, in every way he can, but also doing
everything they can to make it tougher for Donald Trump
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once he takes the oval office. This is what a
peaceful transfer of power it looks.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
You know, you look at what's going on in southern California,
and we mentioned how heartbreaking that is, but at the
same time that is the perfect symbol of liberal policies.
And the state has known for years. California has known
for years that they have a problem with water management.
They've actually voted and funded a way of retaining that
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water that melts and even rain water that would have
given them tens of millions of gallons of water, and
it's been signed, just nobody ever did anything about it.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
And with all that good news, this is why the
wildfires are not spreading as nearly as fast as those
conspiracy theories, and we'll be tracking more of those. We
get ready and watch the countdown to how much more
of your tax payer money can Joe Biden spend to
make sure the Trump administration has as many hurdles as
possible when it takes over the Oval Office. That will
begin again. All mon, well, it's not going to slow
down over the weekend. We can just get you updated
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on Monday.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
I'll three. You know, another little conspiracy theory when you
look at western North Carolina, Joe Biden had it at
seventy five percent, and he also offered what seven hundred
and fifty dollars for people who are affected. We have
a heartbreaking interview with a mayor of one of those
towns in western North Carolina where his daughter was refused
even though she lost her home in the hurricanes. And
you then looked at for the last two months, the
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federal government said that they would pay seventy five percent
of the recovery stuff needed. They upped it in middle
of December to ninety percent. Joe Biden gives a press
conference on Thursday, and he says, yeah, Gavin Newsoen and
he called. He said, hey, I know we're only authorized
for seventy five percent here in California, could you go
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up to ninety I said, hey, Paal, We're going to
one hundred percent. And I also told them, I said, hey, guy,
don't skimp get the best of everything.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
You got. People that don't live in the neighborhoods that
are being threatened by a wildfire sitting their house. It's
on fire now, so they can get into some of
that Biden money. Everybody wants a good lick of that
Biden salt blot before he gets out of the office.
All right, we'll talk more about that next week. Coming up.
In just a second. Sheriff Leon Lott is really hacked
off at some parents in South Carolina. The long armor
of the law may be pointing its finger at you parents.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
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Jonathan and Kelly Show, and please do not interpret that
as me making light of the situation with the persons
who are truly suffering with wildfires in California. The local
leadership and then Joe Biden stepping in to make sure
that we take care of those people who are in need.
We'll see how they continue to develop over the weekend. Hey,
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this week we had an opportunity to speak with Sheriff
of Leon Lott. He's got a new initiative he wants
to talk about. You may have read about the paper.
This could be the first time you've heard about it.
It certainly was an eye opener and it comes on
the heels of him being sworn in again as the
Richland County sheriff.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Yeah, this is the eighte time and this as exciting
nafe time as it was the first time. I just
still love doing this and enjoyed it and it was
humbling experience though. I just I tell other sheriffs when
they get elected, when you get sworn in, you assume
a lot of power and a lot of responsibilities.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
And for a lot of people who obviously supported you
in the election, and then certainly they all pouring on
social media that I saw. This is much different from
the press conference you had what almost two weeks ago,
where you were admonishing the community and then you threw
down the gauntlet. And I understand some people aren't very
happy about what you're planning of the day.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
No, I mean people don't want to be held accountable.
Evidently some people don't, and we're holding people accountable. We're
going to hold parents accountable for what their children do
when they condone it or assist them. And then we're
going to hold people accountable when they leave the Dagham
keys in their vehicles and these kids steal these cars
and we're get in the chase with them and then
they try to kill us. But by and large, I
will say probably well over ninety five er son of
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our community, it's supportive of what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
This seems to be the most fed up I've seen you.
You're just fed up with parents helping their kids do crimes,
idiots leaving their cars running and it leads to more crime.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Month of December was just terrible. We had two fourteen
year olds and separate instants. Two fourteen year olds killed.
We had two fifteen year olds and a stolen car
shoot at our deputies in a high speed chase. We
had another seventeen year old that was shot by another juvenile.
We were losing a generation of young kids here from
thirteen to seventeen years old, either they getting killed or
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they going to prison. And I just felt like this time,
this community has got to get its head out of
sand and let's do something together. So we're finding parents
are assisting their kids and committing these crimes. We've locked
up two mothers. The thirteen year old that was in
a stolen car at two thirty in the morning with
a gun who shot at and killed our dog and
then shot of our deputies. His mom came and picked
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him up from the scene, takes him home, knows what
he's done. Hois his tennis shoes that he had on
up in the attic, was washing his clothes when we
caught him. We have her on video doing that. She's
just charged with assessory action attempt to murder. She assisted him.
The second one, we had a fourteen year old shoot
and kill a fifteen year old on the back porch
of this home. The moms watched this boy later for
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two hours and bleed out before she ever called anybody.
That's accessory too. That boy could have been saved maybe
if she'd have called immediate, but she was more concerned
about her son instead of the poor young man's laying
there dead, so she's also charged too. These are the
parents were going after. I think some people want to
create their own narrative that, oh my god, and if
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my kid sneaks out and does something I don't know
about it, I'm gonna get locked up. No, but if
you know that your child is out there in the
middle of night, and you condone it and you allow it,
then yes, you need to be held accountable for it.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Now. Unfortunately, you mentioned several different cases there, and one
of the articles that are read, if I remember correctly,
said that there will be a civil suit. Tell me
the difference between holding someone as you mentioned the second
ago as an accessory, and then how it may be
a charge that we will be brought in a civil sit.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
Civil and criminals two different things. Criminals where you actually
get arrested and you could go to jail. Civils is
where you usually get a fine paid against you. There
is a law that's been on the books that says
that a parent can be held liable up to five
thousand dollars. Your child goes out and shoots our dog,
your child pleads guilty to it, we can sue you
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up to five thousand dollars. All sudden's around damaging property,
state property, county property.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
So if one of your vehicles is wrecked in a chase, yes,
we're chasing a twelve year older.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Yeah, and the parent knew and somehow condoned it, was
part of it, then we can file a suit against
a civil suit against them. Trying to do is just
get parents to take some accountability for their children. We're
going to look at every case. What evidence do we have,
what facts can we prove is that that parent condoned
it or was part of it assisted and if we do,
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let's charge the pain.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
I can only imagine how shocked that woman was when
you found the sneakers hidden up in her attic.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
Just kind of interesting sidelight to that is that we
got over to the where they lived and we arrested
and brought him back and we were interviewing him asking
something about the gun. He said, well, y'all have the gun.
I saw that on the sheriff's interview on TV. So
they watch in the media to see what we know,
what we've done, So he watched it. I think you
probably watched the four o'clock news, and at five o'clock
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it was Gad handcuffs put on him.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Heref Leon Lott, thank you again for first and foremost
for being willing to serve. Thank you.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
I'll tell a real quick story I told yesterday. When
I got sworn in, I had the Bible that my
dad gave me in nineteen sixty four, and that's the
Bible has been with me every time I've been sworn in,
so covering on it's worn out. That Bible is a
worn out the Bible. But I said, when you know,
the Bible's kind of like me. The Bible's worn out
on the outside what you see, but when you open
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that Bible up, the message and words are still strong.
And I'm like that. You know, my hair wasn't gray
in nineteen ninety six when I got elected, but I
still have it.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
It was a hell of a mullet and still have it.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
And the wrinkles up in my face. But you know,
desire to be sheriff and be a cop that hadn't
left so kind of like the Bible. The outside may
be a little tattered, but inside still strong.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Well, there's a blessing for the next four years. Leon
Lott stays in office in Richland County. We got NFL
playoff weekends going on this weekend, I finally get to
watch the NFL. I'll never watching it until wildcard weekend.
I'm very excited about.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Congratulations former game cock Mitch Jeter, who kicked the game
winning field goal for Notre Dame. So he'll be playing
in the National Championship.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yes he will. Hey, have yourself a great warmer. Hopefully
a couple of days. We'll be talking again on Monday.
Listen for the rash Thoughts. You could always check out
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