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April 5, 2025 • 39 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Jonathan Rush, My fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day, Kelly Nash.
April second, twenty twenty five will forever be remembered as
the day American industry was reborn, the day America's destiny
was reclaimed, and the day that we began to make
America wealthy again.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show boy for a Liberation Day.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
There was not as much celebration as I thought. I'm
just hearing gnashing of teeth and wailing is screaming on MSNBC,
CNN and the like.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Well, I mean, anybody who has stocks is kind of
whaling right now as well.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Touch it.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Don't sell anything. The Big Seven, you don't, the Big Seven,
the Magnificent Seven. They lost a trillion dollars in one day.
And you know, unlike, unlike typically, if you and I
lose money, it goes to somebody else. So brillion dollars evaporated.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
In this historic as it was over enunciated this morning,
first thing on MS historic cap losses in the market.
This brings us back to where we were prior to Trump,
somewhere in the middle of Joe Biden's administration.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
I'm not exactly sure, I mean, but it's close to it.
I haven't looked at the jobs reports, but that's came
out today as well. We were not looking good right now.
The tariff is not looking good. I mean, we do
have a tariff on an island that has no people
on it. Did you see that?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Look No, he told you the world's going to be
put on notice. But one of the one of the
places penguins, it's it's a two week boat ride is
the only way you can get there. It has from Australia.
You can look in their eye.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
We're vicious well, have been taking advantage of us for
many years. Those penguins.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Damn those penguins. They're gonna learn a lesson everybody's learned.
Nonethelesson I'm excited about it. We can get into that
in the Swamp Talk and segment three. We are going.
We had a conversation earlier this week recorded actually it
was recorded on Thursday with Congressman Joe Wilson. That's coming
up in just a minute as well. Big news about
taxation in South Carolina flat tax.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I don't know how their math is mathing. It doesn't
seem very the Democrats math doesn't seem to work.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
We'll break out in the sales spreadsheet again along with
the article and see we can make that happen. And
everybody just simma down now, semi down now.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Ed Zimmer is the man's name, the duc dum and
Henry McMaster's not letting it go. He's like a dog
with a moan. And the fact that you know the
little subcommittee there on the Senate voted twelve to five
against doctor Ed Simmer. He don't care, don't care.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
It's in his wheelhouse. He's got the power. H mac
then spoke. That'll be coming up in segment four. But
we begin with a visit we had from one of
our congressman in DC, the honorable Congressman Joe Wilson.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
And Jonathan Kelly.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
Great to be with you, and I just so enjoy
listening to rash thoughts and being brought up today.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
But what an extraordinary time in history.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
I'm very, very grateful and honored to serve the people
in the second District at a very important time in
history with a president who truly is promises made, promises kept.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well, Congressmen, you're introduced as the Honorable Joe Wilson and
yet in my hands, I'm holding something here that talks
about Emily's List, which makes it seem as if maybe
you're not that honorable. Well you've been targeted.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
Well, hey, Kelly, what an honor that.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
A far left group, Emily's List has identified me as
one of forty six Republicans it should be removed from office.
That just gives me an incentive to work that much harder,
and which I will. We'll be getting around the district
today with the Columbia Chamber of Commerce and then meeting
with constituents in the office with the United Way. Yesterday,

(03:58):
I was really grateful was able to go to the
Farm ye Old legislative event, and then I was grateful
then to work with the Columbia World Affairs Council, to
be with the consult General of Republic of China Taiwan.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
So it's action packed every day.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, I'm hearing on CNN and MSNBC where if you
show up over the Department of Commerce, these businessmen are
ready to protest to you as well, because Donald Trump
with his tariffs is just upsetting the entire business community
from Wall Street to Main Street.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
I really have faith in President Trump and we've already
seen it. A week ago Monday, I was at the
White House. He announced how grateful he was to have
been able to bring to the United States over three
trillion dollars of new investments of businesses to expand here,
to begin their manufacturing again.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Here.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
He's really achieving what he promised to do, and that
is bring industry back to the United States and to.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Create job That's funny because I didn't hear MSNBC or
seeing and then talk about the investments from companies around
the globe and then those relocating back to the US.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
And that amazing. I mean, did I even tell you that?

Speaker 6 (05:00):
Because when I think of the prior president, I don't
remember anything.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
If Hunter was on the board, there was all kind
of support for that.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
That was a unique situation too, can you believe?

Speaker 6 (05:10):
And then I am so grateful with cash Bettel, We're
going to really look into things that occurred sadly corrupting
in our country, corrupting, the corrupting, and we know the
Internal Revenue Service corrupting over and over again agencies. With
the great work of Elon Musk, much of this is
being disclosed.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Talking with Congressman Joe Wilson. Now, this week in Congress,
we had what's her name, Anna Paulina Luna bring out
a bill with a Democrat basically saying that you can
get a lot of time off if you have a child.
I'm assuming because it seemed like everybody on the Republican
side was against that. Mike Johnson was against it, and
yet it still passed. Does this, in your opinion, affect

(05:49):
the business of Congress in a big way or not
so much?

Speaker 6 (05:52):
Be proxy voting that you don't have to be there
in person, And we did have proxy voting, and I
think it was legitimate with COVID because we didn't want
to make each other they're sick. But at the same time,
it's been pointed out once you begin this, there's so
many other legitimate reasons why persons would be voting by proxy,
and the Constitution really does provide you be in person.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, the numbers that we're seeing come out of the
border patrol with the number of people that they're being
able to return back to their native nation or prison
closest or whatever. Think about how much work they're putting
in to get one hundred and forty thousand people deported.
But look at all the people that came across illegally.
What up of fifteen sixteen, seventeen million.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
We don't even know.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
This could take a while.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
The achievement that Donald Trump has done, and I love
that this dispute and that is is it ninety four
percent reduction of illegal aliens or ninety eight percent? Well,
whatever it is, it protects American families and I feel
quite vindicated. I told people for the last five years
that we didn't need new laws. We need to enforce
the laws we have, and that's what Donald Trump is doing.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
One of the things that you have been very forceful
about is the support for the Ukraine. Yes, where are
we right now as we see? I mean, it's it's
been just a whirlwind since that meeting in the Oval Office.
And you know, whether it's Putin backing out of deals,
where do you think America should be?

Speaker 6 (07:15):
Well, what I appreciate about Donald Trump, he tries to
reach agreements. Yes and so he the ultimate okay was
on his reaching out to Kim Jong un. Well, he
found out that doesn't work, so and so, but he's
trying to reach out to Putin and I think he's
going to find out that's not going to work either,
because war criminal Putin as a plan. His plan is
to resurrect the failed Soviet Union. It really has begun

(07:39):
earlier with the invasion of Georgia and the takeover of
South accession of Kasia. Even with the collapse of the
Soviet Union, Russian troops never left pustions of Moldova called
trans in Istria, and then we know that they've annexed Belarus.
That then led to the invasion of Ukraine itself. But
this is part of worldwide war, and that is it's

(07:59):
that of evil, and that is Warkrimil Putin, the regime
in Tehran, the invasion of Israel on October seven, twenty
twenty three, and then indeed the Chinese Communist Party plan
to eliminate the existence of Taiwan. And then the ultimate
though is death Israel, death to America. I'm just very,
very grateful that President Trump is building up our military

(08:20):
and then is perceived that he's against NATO. No, he
is encouraging and and grudgingly our NATO allies now see
the threats to their security and future, and so now
they're building up their military. So the bottom line, I
give so much credit to the people of Ukraine that
by resisting, by holding off Russia as they have, the

(08:41):
war criminal Putin is also given another incentive, and that
is as chairman of the Middle East Subcommittee. I'm really
grateful that in December the dictatorship in Syria collapsed as
personal in November the dictatorship basara Asad identified me as
an enemy of the state.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
So he made Emily's list and and so I've.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
Made it's list, and I've also made Putin's list too. Anyway,
I'm really grateful for the lop twos I have, and
that is to be identified by the dictatorship as an
enemy of the state, and in three weeks the bus
ls ide fled to Moscow. We need to connect the dots,
and that is that we're in a worldwide conflict. We
did not choose. It's the dictators that have chosen the

(09:22):
conflicts that we have with the invasion of Ukraine, the
invasion of Israel, and then the threat by the Chinese
Communist Party. The Taiwan does not exist, and so we
need to be standing together and ultimately the dictatorships will collapse.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
You know, I think some conservatives from Republicans certainly would
say to you. I'm a little disappointed know that Elon
Musk and his highly touted chainsaw on the campaign trail,
had estimated two trillion dollars in savings. I know that
we've talked with other congress Ralph Norman say there's going
to be more than that. We look at the DOSEE
web page. It's one hundred and fifty billion dollars. That's
a lot of savings. But are we going to make

(09:57):
it to the anticipated level because or do we oversee?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Did you over sell it? No?

Speaker 5 (10:01):
I believe it can be achieved.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Jonathan and I the one fifty billion, that's a lot
of money, but indeed that's the beginning and as we
look into different agencies. I'm so pleased from day one
from my election supported the elimination of the part of education.
And I have the highest regard for our state Shuman
education Ellen Weaver.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
I was with her last week, and we need.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
To have education that's a state issue with local elected
school boards, so the president how important that is to
get rid of so many bureaucrats. Also, I'm very very
grateful for the elimination, largely of FEMA. In the National Guard,
my duties were Hurricane recovery and relief, and we did
very well working with mayors and county government and governors.

(10:43):
We didn't need federal agency to come in and tell
us what to do. So over and over again, I
can see doatch working and I believe it will result
in two jillion dollars of savings to the American people.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I want to jump back in and ask your follow
up on that, because Kelly would describe me, probably truthfully,
as an a Greek taxpayer. I would like to see
the Trump administration actually offer an amnesty program. If you've
been receiving a paycheck because your great grandfather was in
Social Security and you're still getting it, you're still casting,
or if you're a contractor whose contract was only for
six months, but you can check every quarter for the

(11:16):
last twelve years, We're going to give you ninety days
to come forward and identify yourself and we're not going
to prosecute you. Otherwise, you're stealing from the American taxpayer,
and we're going to make sure that we not only
call that money back, but there's going to be a
heavy penalty, possibly a jail term involved with defrauding the
American government and the taxpayer.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
What a great suggestion you have, and indeed that's what
Secretary Christinom has proposed in regard to illegal aliens, that
if you self report, things will be fine, but if
you don't, you're going to be deported and not able
to come back.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I think that would expend like that one hundred and
fifty billion dollar number, like overnight.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Well they doubled that, and it's said to see the
level of irresponsibility with people one hundred and twenty years
old receiving social Security. I really appreciate what Elon Musk
is doing. And then the diversion of funds that should
have been in the US Agency for International Development. That
was for road paving, for schools, for developing societies. It

(12:13):
was not meant to be diverted to left wing political causes.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
So my understanding is Elon Musk is supposed to leave
those in May. Is that your understanding.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
I don't know the date, but my view is that
the media is going to make a big deal quote
when he leaves, Well, this was temporary, and when you
have a network this he does. He destinied to monitor
his businesses, including Tesla in particular. This was a temporary
assignment and voluntary by him, and I hear democrats say, well,
he's trying to make money. Gosh lost, He's not trying

(12:47):
to make money. This is out of his heart that
he sees and now we all see.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
My question is, after he leaves the Department of Government Efficiency,
is this something that the Congress and the President would
act consider making an official position.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
I know that I would.

Speaker 6 (13:03):
Hey, my whole political philosophy and the reason the Republicans
are a majority here in South Carolina is for limited government,
expanded freedom. We need to look at the functions of
government and turn them back. And that's what I really
appreciate about Donald Trump, Ernie, that we have people of
the far left claiming that he'd like to be a dictator. Know,
he's turning power back over to the people, to the states,

(13:25):
to local elected schoolboys.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
He's taking power from them, which is why he's giving
it to the people. They want the power.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Well, I know, in the aftermath of the JFK files
that were released, do you actually know, as we learned
in the movie National Treasure, is there a National Book
of Secrets in the Congress Library?

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Can we get that released?

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Hey, there's so many issues that I want to deal
with now.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
That interview has been edited for it only because of
time restraints of this program, because I know Congressman's listening
right now.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
He ge good morning, Joe.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Only because of the time restraints of this program, that
interview was edited. You can hear the complete interview on
our podcast. You know, we put those up Monday through Thursday,
and then of course we share with our rash thoughts
Monday through Friday. We all get together here on Saturday
and thank you for being here. Hey, coming up in
just a second, let's talk about taxation in South Carolina.
We've been pushing for a zero tax.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Not there yet. We do you know how you know
how much more expensive that would be if you.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Get That's next The Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush
the Obama White House correspondence dinner, which he did attend.
There were tons of jokes about him, Kelly Nash.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
And they want that false equivalency that the media does.
They want that it makes them feel like human beings.
But they shouldn't get to feel that way because they're not.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
And she stands on principle even when it may cost her,
like her career, I don't know if it had cost
her her career, but this would have been a huge platform.
Amber Ruffin is her name. I'll be honest with you.
I wasn't familiar with Amber Ruffin before she said all
that about the upcoming White House Correspondence dinner, And that
was just a snippet what she said. She got pretty nasty.

(15:08):
She said, all the Republicans are murderers. So I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna be holding I'm not gonna be
you know, tip for tat here on the Democrat jokes
versus the Republican jokes. It's going to be all about
slamming Donald J. Trump and his cast on murderer's row.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
I mean, if she's serious about that, I don't even
know how you would make jokes about the Republicans. And
there's nothing funny about them, right, They're just thugs and murderers,
not many great hitler gips. Yeah, it's like Putin. You
know you're not going to stand there at the Putin
dinner and tell Putin jokes.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Well, now she's lost that gig, so they got now.
I thought they were going to name another comedian to
host the event coming up under the twenty six, but
Donald D. Trump has already said I'm not attending. But
now apparently they're not going to gonna be hosted by AI.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
It's what's his face? The guy who's on MSNBC is
the chairman of the board for the White House Correspondence Dinner.
And the guy who's got the big afro but also
wears his mother's pearls.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
That is an interesting look.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, that guy. So I don't know what they're gonna do.
I don't even know why we have a White House
Correspondence Dinner.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I've early the evening a handout scholarships for journalists and
the like, or students who like to have a a
collegiate career and then a career after their college for journalism.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
What does it have to do with the White House?

Speaker 3 (16:23):
What does it have to do with the White House
Correspondence I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
If I say, if the White House Correspondents want to
get together and have a thing, that's great, But you
don't have to.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Oh, it's just the elite group of journalists. Supposedly, now
it involves everybody. I mean, look when you got Peter Doocey, well, Peter,
I guess was a White House correspondent.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
He is.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
But you'll see all kind of people there in the audience.
I mean half of all the cable hosts are there.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. I, as the White House,
you should not be associated with this. This is them
having their little moment. We'll say. It's kind of like
the Academy Awards. It's ridiculous. The Academy will towards the Grammys.
They're all stupid, and so I wouldn't participate in it.
If I was a White House correspondent, I would not
go to this dinner, but I certainly wouldn't go if

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I was a politician.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
All right, well, we have more White House related news,
although we're not official White House correspondents and we won't
be attending. That'll be coming up in a minute. In
segment three, House GOP defends a tax proposal that will
increase taxes for sixty percent of South Carolina residents. Now
that's an eye popping headline, given that we were going

(17:34):
to go into this conversation with reducing our taxes and
actually now that we have reduced them over the past
two years, expedite that measure and some people were throwing
out the top word of loore, we're going to go
for a zero percent tax. Even the Pamela Evidohtenant governor
spoke about that last week on this program. But now
we're finding out that the state House Republicans are actually
going to increase taxes for sixty percent of taxpayers here

(17:57):
in the Palmetto State, according to the Posting car.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Now the math is not math thing as we've said earlier,
because according to the Democrats, they're saying that anyone who
made on let's say, fifty seven thousand dollars per year,
that's the one the number that they used, could immediately
expect to see their taxes increase by five hundred and
twenty one dollars a year under the new GOP plan,
while those earning one hundred and fifty thousand dollars per

(18:22):
year or more than those are the people that would
see their taxes decrease. I just have to just point
out to you the current tax rate for South Carolina.
This is where we're at right now. If you make
less than three thousand, five hundred and sixty dollars a year,
you pay nothing. Once you're in that three thousand five

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hundred and sixty to seventeen thousand, eight hundred and thirty.
That's called middle class. Okay, those people pay three percent.
So if you make less than seventeen thousand, eight hundred
and thirty dollars a year, your middle class. High income
earners are anybody who makes over seventeen eight hundred and
thirty dollars a year. In other words, anybody who has

(19:05):
a full time job is a Even if you're an
hourly wage person, you're considered high income. We all pay
the same thing, which is six point two percent on
that money. Now, the new GOP plan would drop that
from six point two to three point nine to nine,

(19:26):
basically four percent, so a two point two percent reduction.
The only people that I see getting screwed in this
would be the people who make under seventeen thousand dollars
a year, which certainly isn't going to be what do
they say, forty percent of South Carolinians.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Or whatever, sixty sixty percent increase.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
There's no possible way. And if you're making fifty seven
thousand dollars a year, you're getting a tax decrease, not
an increase of five hundred and eighty whatever dollars. It
is a year that they're claiming Democrats are doing some
sort of new fangled math that does not reel well.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
The disc connect and the entire argument apparently is going
to go back to a couple of triggers. So it
has to do with revenue coming into the state of
South Carolina, which is the way that it was presented before,
and how we've been able to expedite lease six point
whatever down to the six point zero percent. You're going
to have to hit certain revenue figures, and they say,
if you bring down the revenue from the taxation because

(20:19):
you're going to cut the rate, then that's obviously going
to create a problem with being able to go forward
with the same tax rate because now you built in
triggers that demand a certain amount of money be brought
into the coffers.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
That's exactly what the Democrats have been saying, which sounds
like gobbledegook to me. We're going from again six point
two down to three point nine. But it worked in
the sense that the Republicans, I think it was on
Friday or maybe late Thursday, decided to not have this
vote and they say they will bring it back for
a vote before the end of the session, which is

(20:51):
just a couple of weeks away in May, right, But
they're now considering dropping it even a much further from
a three point nine all the way down to a
two point point four nine flat tax.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
So you know, the great thing about a zero percent
income tax is that you don't have to worry about
the calculations.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
It's zero.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
And it seems like everybody on the Republican side can't
agree with that. But we want to get down to
zero because we're competing now in the southeast with Florida
and Tennessee and the light get ahead and Georgia will
be nice. All that will be great if we could
do that to inspire a business. All right, we'll just
see what the Senate says. Well, first we got to
get it out of the house. Can we get it
out of the House.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
To the Senate?

Speaker 5 (21:29):
We'll find out.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
I don't know, if Kelly points out this session will end,
can we even get it to tell you what? We'll
just have to pick up on this when we get
more information as it moves through the process. Now coming
up in just a second swamp talk, and then everybody
gonna have to sum it down, says HVAC.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, simmer up. I don't know. We'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan Rush, my voice is inadequate,
Kelly Nash.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
My efforts today are inadequate.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Jonathan and Kelly.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Oh boy, that was a big point of pride when
he finished talking after twenty five hours.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
I mean, this is apparently his launch to be the
next president of the United States. I would think Corey
Booker is a forgettable loser of a politician who just
basically crapped his pants for twenty five hours and said
absolutely nothing. To speak for twenty five hours and not
say anything is that is a unique skill set. It's
not a valuable skill set, but that's the one that

(22:24):
he has well.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
And we've seen senatives before. Ted Cruz read green Eggs
and ham.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Ted Cruz was in a filibuster. That is not what
Corey Booker was in.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Now. Granted, twenty five hours is a pretty good run.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Oh, I couldn't do it. I wouldn't want to talk
for twenty five hours.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Now.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
He did wear a diaper because we always heard the
story of the strom throm and he kept one foot
on the Senate floor and he opened the door and
urinated in a bucket. I don't know if that's true.
I wasn't there. No, I didn't talk to it eyewitnessed
about I think.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
I was nineteen fifty seven. According to Corey Booker's staff,
he stopped eating two days before the event. He stopped
drinking the day before the event, so he was completely
dehydrated for the twenty five hour.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
I'm amazed he could do that for twenty five hours
without eating or drinking.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
I mean, it's pretty That is impressive press. I'll give
him that. I but now, in that build up, you
should have come up with something to say. But he
had nothing to say. I mean, he made up some stuff.
I will not let them cut social Security man. Nobody's
talking about that.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Nobody's the big applause to the six thirty crew across
the network span. They had done such a good job
scaring senior citizens to friggin death. I'm surprised we're not
reading about senior citizens jumping off of buildings like the
infamous Halloween broadcast or the world. They have scared senior
citizens to death. Congratulations, you've taken an absolute lie, perpetrated

(23:49):
it now to where it's become actual news. Donald Trump
is going to take your Social Security check. Actually, Elon Musk, I.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Would say that Corey Booker really was fighting against Doge.
He was talking about cuts to government services that aren't
really on the docket, but that's what he pretended they are.
So Corey Booker is against Doge. Strom Thurman was against
the Civil Rights Act. That was what his speech was about.
So again two Democrats breaking records, both on the wrong

(24:18):
side of history, typical for Democrats. If you saw the gallery,
he was basically talking to nobody. He was talking to
four empty walls. And when he walked off, he said
something that's kind of revealing. Remember, I said he's running
for president now. Quote, there's a lot of people out
there asking Democrats to do more and to take risks

(24:39):
and to do things differently and to start fighting. This
seemed like the right time to start fighting for them.
So that's what he wants you to see. And we
saw that survey from CNN. It's an overwhelming amount of
Democrats do not want them to compromise on anything. Block
Trump whatever he says. If Donald Trump says I want

(24:59):
to save kittens, kill all the kittens, that's what they want.
The Democrats to do.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
And there's a race to the top right now, because
you got Jasmine Crockett, who was well spoken the other
day from the DASK.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
I did like her admittance that she is a DEI hired.
Did you say, we're talking about that. I walked in
and I said, I have no qualifications, but you should
hire me. And he said why and I said because
I'm a black woman, and he looked at me like
I was crazy, but I didn't. Told him I had
an angle that the other people wouldn't have, that white
lawyers wouldn't have, and he went ahead and hired me,

(25:28):
and I made him very proud because I'm a black woman.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Now, I got to tell you something. I totally misjudge
the situation, and I will retract or say I was wrong.
I was wrong when I think I openly at minus
Kelly Nash the rest of the media, including Kelly, stop
giving this woman so much oxygen. Stop repeating what she says.
After the Governor Hotwill's comment, which I thought she was
just talking street because that's what she does now. She's

(25:51):
a well educated woman, I thought fairly intelligent, But by
her own admission the other day, you can't just come
out and say that and not realize what you're saying
right in the middle of telling the story when one
of the key issues you have is the DEI initiative.
So she's not nearly as intelligent as I thought. So
now I'm all on the bandwagon every time she talks.

(26:12):
Cut into the middle of the commercials Fox News and
go live again.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
If you're trying to make the case that DEI works
and she's a great example of it, I guess right. Look,
I came from nothing. I'm a nobody. I'm uneducated. I
can barely read and write, and here I am as
a US congress person. I'm an illiterate buffoon who's been
elected to one of the highest offices in the land
because I'm black.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
As we record this on Friday for Saturday broadcasts, we
don't know what's going to happen here. But we're teetering
at thirty nine thousand on the Dow. Now, when we
went into this day, we were right at forty or
just under if I remember correctly. Okay, it's moving so
fast it's hard to keep up with the exact hour
and where the Dow was and before market trading and
after market trading, but nonetheless, at forty thousand, that will

(26:56):
be the lowest of the market spen since August of
twenty twenty four. Oh my god, August the twenty twenty
four the teriffs, anybody would have been able to tell you,
I would have thought that the market's not going to respond. Well,
I get it. I mean, you just announced that you're
going to increase tariffs on every.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
I'm a fairly intelligent person, not educated intelligent. I'm fairly intelligent.
I don't grasp what Donald Trump. I understand what he'd
like to do, because anybody can talk about the fifties,
the sixties, the seventies, the eighties, and even a small
part of the nineties. There were Americans who did not
have a college education. Some of them didn't even have

(27:33):
a high school education. They did not have a unique
skill set. What they offered was the ability to bust
their butts, and they went to work and they busted
their butts and factories doing hard labor, and they built
a great life for themselves. They were able to buy
a home, they had vacations, they did all this sort
of thing that is not available to them anymore. If

(27:53):
you are not educated and or have a unique skill set.
In America, there's really no room. You're going to be
in the bottom bottom and you can't just go work
hard at something and expect a good paycheck. You can
do that in other countries, but over there, like for example, Vietnam,
right now, average annual income is forty two hundred dollars
a year in Vietnam. So when they're paying their people

(28:14):
thirty two cents an hour to produce stuff, you can't
get those jobs back because if you brought them back,
they wouldn't actually be done by people. They would be
done by robots. So if the tariffs are successful, you're
still not going to be able to build up the
middle class with hard work. But let's even pretend that
he did get that back, and for whatever reason the
company said we're going to pay ten dollars an hour

(28:36):
instead of thirty two cents an hour, the price of
everything has to skyrocket. Then that's what I can't understand. Well,
how do I get prosperity out of this for the
American people? I don't see it as a possibility.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Look, I'm not claiming I'm the I'm the master of
the art of the deal. And now I just read
the other day where he didn't even write that book
what some people say, he's never even read it. What
are you talking about social media yesterday. I'm befuddled by
some of the things that he says and does, but
I'm going to question it because this is what we wanted.
We wanted a couple of things. We wanted to upset
the Apple card of DC. You want to drain the swamp,

(29:10):
and we do want to see countries like China who
certainly have been manipulating currencies and also have been charging
us unbelievable amounts, as Nancy Pelosi even demonstrated. Sure you
saw that video in nineteen ninety six, I understand that
there's an imbalanced trade that we need to at least
level out to some degree.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Here.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
The amazing thing to me is that even when he
comes out with a statement, it says, like, you know,
maybe as China wants to come back and negotiate a
better trade policy so that we're able to get the
TikTok thing. I ain't, not being a master poker player
or negotiator, would think that you just showed a card
you didn't need to show. Again, I'm not the master
of the art of the deal. At some point I

(29:48):
have to realize that a couple of things are absolutely true.
As we go through what is the short term pain
to get to the long term gain, we're already winning
in this. We know that we've had, depending on who
you talk, between three and six trillion dollars already committed
for investment. For as Kelly mentioned, the new jobs that
will be available in America as these new plants come online,

(30:10):
and they certainly will be hinging on robotics. And that's
not because Elon Musk is here. That's the dawn of
the Golden Era is robotics. And for persons who want
to be able to re educate themselves, retool themselves, redefine themselves,
reimagine themselves if you're a Democrat, so that you can
take advantage of those opportunities. But as we've shut down
the border, shut down fit and all protected the American

(30:32):
people doing things now to protect our national security having
to do with wide open borders, and now we want
to start dealing with the trade issues that Donald Trump
ran on and promised he would do. This is what
it looks like when you send somebody to upset DC
with their spending practices, and try to bring other countries
back in line with our trade deficits.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
I just wish he had waited till after the mid terms.
And again, I don't see how it is successful. But
even if it is successful, I can't imagine it's going
to be successful before the end of this year. When
he talks about short term pain, how long is the
pain of short term Could it take two years to
correct what he would say is fifty to eighty years

(31:15):
of dumb trade policies by the United States. I would
think two years would be quick, But two years is
too long now, because you're going to blow the midterms,
and if you blow them, they're going to blame the
Republicans for any pain that they're feeling, and they're not
going to vote for more Republicans. And then then you're
going to be neutered. You're going to be walking around
completely neutered for the last half a year. And even

(31:37):
if you like to joke about running for a third term,
nobody's gonna want you for a third term because you're
gonna and you're going to destroy any opportunity for another
president to be Republican. Probably as well.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
And as we talked about a minute ago, and you're
absolutely right. The Democrats are struggling to figure out who's
going to be the face of the resistance in the
new face of the leadership of the Democrat Party. But
I can tell you one thing. The people that are
behind the scenes, the pr people, the people that are
writing the news ABCNBC and CBS, the ones who are
scaring seniors and other Americans to the point where they
want to jump off of buildings or kill themselves because

(32:07):
they think they're going to starve to death. They're doing
a damn good job.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Well, again, I'm not Donald Trump, and if I was
Donald Trump and I was bluffing on all this stuff,
obviously I wouldn't tell you that I was bluffing. But
he did kind of on Thursday say something about the
tariffs give us a lot of opportunities to negotiate, and
that's what I'm hoping he's. You know, again, we're not
negotiating with the penguins at the McDonald Islands or whatever

(32:33):
it's called. But if he wants to negotiate with China
and Vietnam and whoever else, I hope that he's getting
that opportunity, and it's quick. We got to very quickly
move past this because everything else that he's doing, Americans love,
strengthening the border, getting rid of the fentanyl, you know,
strengthening the military. All this stuff that he's doing is fantastic,

(32:56):
but it all hinges on the economy working well.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Well, look at the time time, this is the fastest
hour and broadcast every week. Sim it down. Now, we
got to get to that coming up in a second.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Jonathan and Kelly show Jonathan.

Speaker 7 (33:09):
Rush someone who actually still four hundred thousand Social Security
numbers from the Social Security.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Database, Kelly Nash, in order for.

Speaker 7 (33:18):
People to basically steal money from Social Security, basically get
people to get de facto registered to vote and to
get a bunch of benefits, make care, unemployment, IRS refunds.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Jonathan and Kelly showdoc and you know, we record this
program on Friday for Saturday broadcast. And as of yet,
we still don't have what was teased on Air Force
one by DJT that we have some incredible news coming
out from dose, but.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
We do have some incredible five million dollar gold cards. Yeah,
he was very proud of that. Look great.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Oh my okay, now stay to South Carolina if you're
caught up in this controversy. Just want you to sim
it down now. I don't think most citizens are caught
up in the controversy, but it certainly has been. As
we talked about in one of our rast thoughts earlier
in the week, with the appointment of our very first
because remember this comes after the restructuring of d Heck
and the Health Department with the South Carolina Department of

(34:16):
Public Health's first permanent director, doctor Edward Simmer.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yeah, that's a no for the Senate Medical Affairs Committee.
They had their vote on Thursday, and in case you're wondering,
so it was twelve to five. The five that voted
yes Dion Tedder, Ronnie sab Marjorie Bright, Matthews, and Brad
Hutto and one Republican by the name of Tom Davis. Okay,

(34:48):
a lot of people were talking about Tom Davis last night.
Why did you vote yes on this guy? But anyway,
it didn't get out of the confirmation there. But with
all that being said, Henry McMaster not gonna let it go.
He's like a dog with a bone.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Now, this is why this guy was appointed. We need confirmation.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
I remain resolute in my support of doctor Edward Simmer.
And I'm hopeful that the full Senate will see through
the falsehood and mistruths being spread about his service to
our state and nation. Now I could tell you he
was a no for me the first time I saw
him doing a press conference and he was wearing that
stupid mask.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Come on, Now, he had a reason, and as we
talked about the other day, he had a reason the
way he had a reason during COVID because of his wife.
He was advised by their family doctor.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
I'm sure that's what he says. And I'm thinking, well,
you're supposed to be the top doctor, and you should
know that masks don't work.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
That is what we have learned. Thought I thought that
had become universally accepted, but maybe in the medical community
they're still saying.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
No mask work.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Although doctor Fauci ended up saying mask didn't work.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yes, Fauci finally haddmitted it. Fauci admitted it inadvertently by
going to that Washington Nationals game, put the mask on
to go throughout the first pitch, and then he came
to the stands and sat with all his buddies and
he took the masks off. So you knew right then,
even Fauci doesn't believe this crap.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Okay, But even if I didn't believe it, the doctor said, hey,
you need to wear a mask. And I'm sitting there
in an appointment with my wife and I'm looking at
Sally and I don't tell her I'm not going to
wear the mask. Look, I love Sally just like he
loves his wife, Peggy. So he was wearing the mask.
Now why he was wearing it the other day? I
don't know. Hey, Kelly's question still stands, if we just
want to hand you on COVID, because a lot of

(36:36):
people are drawing a correlation between Simmer and doctor Fauci. Yes,
if if, what has changed in our understanding about wearing
the mask from since during COVID to the press conference
just the other day.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
I don't understand it. I mean, and for you know,
all right, so he wants the power to be the
top doctor in the state of South Caro on it,
but he can't recognize that masks were wrong. I mean,
you've got we've got him on tape now, Okay, So
it's now, what was this week April of twenty twenty five?
You have years of now you can look back. Did

(37:12):
you learn from the mistakes of COVID. We're not putting
you back in that time. We're outside of time. Was
it wrong for children to wear masks? He says, no,
you're an idiot. Of course it was wrong for children
to wear masks. Everybody knows that.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Now, you would think that with the aftermath, and I
know there's still reports coming out and there was a
long list of side effects. Now with some people are
claiming or it came from the actual COVID vaccination. We
don't know all that to be scientifically true. We know
that there are plenty of scientists who believe that. And
what is it? What are we going to do now, Kelly,
because we don't have the science to go to her

(37:49):
to any more. Fauci told you he was the science.
Now where do we go?

Speaker 4 (37:53):
I don't know. I'm not going to doctor Edward Simmer.
I'll tell you that I saw somebody post something the
other day. I thought it was interesting. Name one person.
Is there a person on the Earth? One person? Can
you find one that regrets not getting the COVID vaccine?
There's not one person on the planet who regrets not

(38:13):
getting it. There is a crapload who regret getting it. Yes,
there's not one person who said I really blew it there.
I really messed up not getting that vaccine.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Okay, all right, well, at any rate, get over at
simmer Down. I nominated him for a reason because they
want him confirmed. So get back in there, get those
machines running again, and get that thing confirmed.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
I mean, I'm looking at somebody's This is from a
live tweet that was happening. People were tweeting at the
confirmation hearings. Doctor simmer the man who wants to head
South Carolina Health Agency, just said that there's no evidence
of DNA contamination in the COVID myrna shots. Perhaps he
doesn't know how to read, because here is the actual
documentation that proves there was DNA contamination and the COVID
MYRNA shots. You can't be the top guy if you

(38:59):
can't read the research. No, he's not wearing the mask.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Well, then the only question I have to ask now
that he's not wearing the mask is do you not
love your wife?

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Anymore? Hey? O?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Now, hey, now that was that was? That was across
the line. I retract my own comment, and I am
here by taking myself off the air.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Well, you know, what then I'll join you. I'll start
the weekend too, just for the rest of the day.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
We'll be back on Monday.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
It's over.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I wish that all of you will come back again
next week.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Can you come back next week. I'll be back the
same time next week. Well show on pole. We'll be
back next week
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