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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, I'm
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
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Isn't it truly amazing? It's like, you know, the Big
switch theory. We keep getting pritched to when should we
start the Big switch theory? When the Democrats suddenly were
the ones making sure that the ultra elites were protected
and they weren't as concerned as we've seen video from
back in the day about how middle class America has
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been hollowed out from US outsourcing all of our jobs
to countries that had cheaper labor.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And you know who would have ever thought it was
the Democrats who were harassing Jews and painting swastikas. That
seems to be a very favorite pastime of the Democrats now.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
So yesterday, while we were talking on this podcast, we
were up sixteen hundred, then we went down, and then
we ended up in the and MSNBC was outraged that
we were in the red. By the close of business day,
I thought it actually closed up just a little bit.
But nonetheless, the after hour trading hit, and then at
midnight last night, Donald Trump's reciprocal terrorists went into effect,
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and the Chinese want to play hardball. I look, I'm
not sure if I understand exactly why we're not carving
out a little something for pharmaceuticals because we.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Ship everything in.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We don't even make penicillin in this country, and most
of it, probably eighty percent, I don't know where the
percentage is. It's a lot of it comes from China,
which has always been a national security threat. I thought so,
I would have thought they would have carved out a
little something for the pharmaceuticals, but it's across the board reciprocal.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, on top of it, Donald Trump says he's going
to be targeting all major pharmaceuticals, so get ready for that.
And if I have, well, I have numerous complaints about
the Trump administration, one of which is that Donald Trump
has not done a very good job of explaining exactly
what he wants out of these tariffs. And I'm guessing
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because he hasn't told us this, I'm guessing that the
reason he's not telling us or anybody else what he
wants is because he wants He likes that uncertainty.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
He believes it gives him extra.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Leverage in negotiations because you don't know what he wants,
and so people just kowtow to him.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But what do we got?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Seventy countries now trying to make deals with us? So
that's great, but I'm not sure how far he wants
to take this. Does this end up in a actual
not just a trade war with China, but I mean
it's some sort of global trade war because if we
are putting these tariffs on China, China is going to
have to dump their products somewhere because they've got literally
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trillions of dollars in crap that we usually buy and
they can't buy it. Right the people in China can't
buy the China crap, so where are they going to
put it? They're going to start trying to flood Europe
with it, I would imagine, and then what happened then?
Are we going to ask Europeans to start putting a
block on the Chinese as well in order for them
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to feel the pain. I'm not really sure how it
plays out over the next six months or whatever. And
that's why we have a lot of uncertainty in the
markets and a lot of other things. But again, uncertainty
in the market is not a bad thing if you're
just recognizing what Donald Trump is trying to do. And
again he hasn't done a very good job of explaining
this either. But from what I can gather from what
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he's said and what other Trump administration officials have said,
is we're resetting the way the economy works for the
entire globe because we are the number one consumer of
everything on the earth. I mean, there's literally nothing. We're
not the number one consumer of food, medicine, cars, electricity, gas, whatever.
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We're number one. So you've got to sell it through us.
And we don't like the deals that we have with y'all.
So we're going to change the whole world. That's not
going to be like a weekend adventure.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
This is yeah, this is like years long.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's going to take a while.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And then the other timeline problem is, as he announces
it as he should, all of the investments that are coming. Again,
you can't just wheel in a factory and PLoP it
down and in the middle of Indiana and start making
hondas tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Well and there you know, look, I think a lot
of people have commented on this that they wouldn't be surprised.
Let's just put it that way. We can't tell you
how fast they're going to build a factory. Sometimes you
see fat like Elon Musk built a factory. I believe
I might be misquoting this. We should Google check me
on this one. I think he built the largest factory
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in the world, Like just full end statement, it's like
a billion square feet in eighteen months from the time
he announced it to the time it opened. It was
eighteen months. So it's possible. But it's also possible that
you could see, you could just hide behind. We got
some red tape here in this state, and we got
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to we gotta do some water studies.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And we got to do that.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And what they're really trying to do is just hedge
their bets. Is this Donald Trump thing going to collapse?
And if it is, then we're not coming in with
our factories.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well, certainly going to put more pressure on making sure
that Congress, the House Anderson had come about with a big,
beautiful build and quit grand standing, as he said yesterday.
Now the uncertainty of it all, as you mentioned, Look,
I didn't write the book. Now we've got people claiming
he didn't write the book. But he's certainly a great negotiator.
I know he knows what he's doing. I got full
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trust that the man, certainly more so than Congress, knows
how to negotiate a trade deal. But for him to
yesterday when he was talking about quit your grandstanding, as
he was standing there, as many people would describe grandstanding,
I'm not saying that's what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I've seen grandstanding before.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Did a look like that.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And then to openly come out and say we got
countries flying here to kiss his ass.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Could have been a little I thought would have been
an overstatement. But here again, I know, messaging is very important.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm not sure that I understand exactly what the messaging is,
but it's targeted to somebody. That's for damn sure.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Look, I just I want people to understand I am
very pro maga. I am pro maga. I love Donald Trump.
So I'm not saying negative things about Donald Trump. I'm
saying there are negativities to I mean, I look, I
wouldn't say this in public, but I could point out
negativities about.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Every family member I have.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Right, it's not like I have to agree with everything
that Donald Trump says and does, so yes, he was grandstanding.
I also agree with Rand Paul that this tariffs should
be under the purview of Congress because they are attacks.
Tariffs are attacks, and that's supposed to fall under Congress.
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So this fact that we have a big vote coming
up here to figure out whether or not they're going
to steal the power back from the president, that's not
something that I'm pointing at Donald Trump about. I'm pointing
at that's the way the government is supposed to work.
That the founding fathers like when people say, well, we
got to get government to do more, you know you
actually want government to do less. Yes, we don't want
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government doing very much. And that's the way that was designed.
That's why you've got this tension between how do you
get things passed in a place where you've got one
hundred Senators and like five hundred congress people and they
and then you got the power of the veto. It's
all supposed to move it like glacier speed, very slow,
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and yet we in our haste, like right now, we
love the fact that Trump's moving at lightning speed because
he's doing a lot of the things that we like.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But put the shoe on the other foot.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
You get a exactly, you get a president Kamala Harris
in four years or whatever, and she's doing the same things.
We're gonna be like she's destroying the country, and she
would be.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
And we got the market balancing back and forth on
the bubble as we speak. And there's a picture of
Mike Johnson as to get ready to see what's going
to happen with a big, big, beautiful bill. And as
Kelly mentioned, you turn it over to Congress, and as
Donald Trump mentioned yesterday with the grand stand, and we
got a couple of republics. I'm not sure they're going
to come about with a big.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Big beautiful bill. The better you better get that crap straight.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
The market has already baked that thing in. They've already
they've already counted that those tax cuts continue if you
If this thing doesn't pass and America gets a huge
tax increase on top of the tariffs, we're screwed.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I guess who's not going to help you, Hakeem Shomer.
All right, no matter what they said thirty years ago,
they've changed their position. Mister Philip Flopp explained it to
you again. I'm sure somewhere today on a television station
near you if you watch and CNN or MSNBC and
look at these look at the studio door, Kelly, then Ash,
Welcome in the studio, Richly, Kenny Sheriff, Leon Lot, good
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to see you the morning.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Good morning, gentlemen. Great to be with you and your
listeners again. Well, our monthly check in.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
That's right, we're checking in.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'm glad you came in today because just looking at
the headlines of the past couple of days, I know
you've been a very busy man.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
You're not happy about it. I'm a shoot, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You must be talking about Lady game cocks.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, I thought you were there.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I didn't see you on camera this time. I always
look for the crowd.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I was right there in my normal seat. Now, did
you also have a Louis Vaton tracksuit on and the shoes? Yeah? Yeah,
we're sitting here laughing making fun of it. Nobody expected
them to be where they were at. I mean, I
think this is one of the coach. Staley's greatest coaching
jobs was this year to take a group of talented
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players mesh them together and come in basically number two
in the nation when nobody thought they would even be anywhere.
Look at the teams they lost to Connecticut twice, Texas
and UCLA, all teams that are in the final four.
And you didn't see one of her players get named
as an All American. So you know, it was a team.
She coached a team, and this past Sunday just had
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a better team. Connecticut was the better team last Sunday
and beat them. She's already, you know, making some changes.
She already got the transfer, the high the number one
score in the nation from Florida. State's already signed here.
Raven Johnson's coming back for another year. She's on the
recruiting trail, so they'll be back. But yeah, it was
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disappointing that they lost, but also look at what they
did this year, and I don't think that needs to
be overlooked. So but we had fun. We had had
a good time, girl, and watching those girls cry and
the motions that they had after the game, you know,
I think volumes on how much they care about the
game and how they you know, and what she's instilled
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upon them. Now she's more than just a basketball coach.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I mean the segue from sports talk to crime talk.
What happened at the Columbia Mall on two notche A
lot of people still got questions.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Same thing I talk about all the time. A bunch
of group of young people with guns and Team A
against Team B. They just show up. They just happened
to run into each other at the mall. Of course,
like everybody, they've got their guns with them. Of course
you got your guns, concluding your long gun that you have,
don't don't you take your long gun into the mall? Also,
are you serious? And so Team A sees Team B
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and Team BC's teammate and they said, oh, let's start shooting.
So they have a shootout. Unfortunately, an innocent bystander was hit.
Of course, none of them get shot, you know the
terrible shots. You know, they shoot up the stores, they
shoot some innocent guy. And and what was I guess
probably the most egregious thing to me. There was a
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mom there with a baby and a stroller, caught right
in the middle of it. And initially social media was
talking about all the un infant got shot, infanite night shot.
The mom didn't get shot, but they were right there
in the middle with all the gunfire going on. Of
course they saw on video, and of course people are
going to be going to jail, yeah, there to catch them.
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They're being caught being caught again again. You know, ninety
nine percent of the crime that happens, we saw it,
and this is another shooting that's gonna happen. But when
it was initially put out, it was that was active
shooter in the mall. So of course we respond with
everybody at that point, and you know, we surround them all,
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go in check the whole all. But as we're doing that,
investigators are doing their job and we discovered that soon
to shooting, they stopped shooting each other. They ran, jumped
in the cars and took off. Just what we see
the cars and see tag numbers and all that stuff.
So yeah, they they're not rocket scientists and so make
it easy. But it is, I mean, it made national news.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I mean rocket science.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You know, you don't often see the Beta club members
walking around with the gun.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
No, I mean Fox and Friends call them on to
interview me on this talking. We don't know talking, We
don't need to talk. It was nothing to talk about,
and it it's not the mall. The ma all didn't
cost the shopping all. People started complaining about the mall,
and we need to complain about the people who actually
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did the shooting. That it didn't matter if they was
in the mall, if they was in the Hearty's, or
they was here at the radio station. It's just teammate
runs into t B and they all got guns and
they shoot. So it's not the location, it's the people.
And a lot of people want to blame it. Blame
it on them all, blame it on them all. It
wasn't the mall's fault. It was the people, and they're
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gonna be held accountable for it. That's just it's a shame.
That's the world we live in now. And I've talked
about it for years on this show. Young people with
guns who do not understand the consequence of their action,
and they're gonna find out the consequence of their do
they can't here though.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
That's the other problem is they don't even care about
the consequences.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
They don't at that moment, and then later on when
they get sentenced to thirty five and forty years, then
they start caring about it. At that point. Look at
the ones that did a shooting at Columbiana Mall Easter
what three years ago they got sentenced. There's thirty years
thirty five years. Wow, they're gonna understand the consequences after
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they've been in prison for about twenty years. And maybe
I should have done something stupid.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And I think everybody's seen the video outside of the
waffle house.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Oh yes, that was another big shootout we had. And
what was ironic about that is Blifewood had a Movies
in the Park at Doco Park like a month ago,
and this is a family event. This is where families
come watch movies and stuff. And of course you had
a bunch of teenagers that come crash it and they
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get in a fight. And then they stopped doing the
pop up parties. They would go from one place to
the next and you know that whack them mold that
you hit, he hit it one and pops up somewhere else.
That's what they were doing. And so Blackwood Town Council said,
will you come and do a town hall meeting? I suggest,
So we had that last last week. Last Wednesday went
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to the town hall meeting. I had nine deputies there,
there was the mayor, two council people, newspaper reporter, a
TV reporter, and three citizens. And I told them, then,
y'all are going to have your one shooting away from
this area exploding, and it's going to be on the spotlight.
But there was nobody to hear that. People were on
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social media complaining and stuff. But when it came time
to actually be there where they could hear what we
were doing and what they need to be doing, they
didn't show up. And then lo and behold Saturday night,
that's when we have it. Those kids were not from
the Blithewood area. They were outside of the Blithewood area.
They were not associated with the prom. Some people have
said that, and people are going to jail on that too.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I was just reading the story in LTx and there's
some citizen quoted in here, and the way that's written,
it sounds as if the citizen or the mayor agrees
with the citizen. So it says a bree culter says
that there should be a curfew for people under the
age of twenty one after eleven PM. Blightwood Mayor Sloan
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Griffin agreed on Tuesday, said he had already spoken with
Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott about the incident. Is this
something that like is that I mean, the way it's written,
it sounds like that's what you guys were discussing.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I don't know that that's the case.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Is that something that you could ever enforce a curfew
after eleven for a nineteen year old?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Well, they're actually looking at under eighteen, okay, curfew, So
they are discussing having a curfew in the town of
life Wood after I think nine o'clock, nine o'clock, it's
gonna be quite early, so and we will be able
to enforce it. You can, I can't enforce it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You can arrest like a seventeen year old for walking
down the street.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It is not the rest of the goals to get
them off the street and have parents take some responsibility.
And the video that you're talking about now that you
saw a few minutes ago, we put that out not
so much asking people to identify who was in the video.
We wanted parents to see, this is your child, the
two hundred kids that were out there running crazy, This
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is your child out here, and this is what your
child is doing at two in the morning. Yeah, and
two in the morning. And I don't think a lot
of pay may even realize or even care. We wanted
everybody to see it. So there's gonna be more videos
can release, cause, uh, every everything up there was on camera.
So we've got the shooters on camera, we've got the
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vehicles on camera. We've got them on camera. We've already
got a rest warrant. So you know, we're gonna hold
people response, but the community needs to see. This is
what we're dealing with. Two hundred kids just running wild,
going up and down the streets. So it wasn't again,
you know, y'all brought it up to the Wallflouse, waffle house
didn't have nothing to do with it. They were at
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the waffle house, they went to car wash, they were
at the gas station up there. They were just all
over the place. And here they are with their guns
and they're standing there shooting. We're talking about lots and
lots of bullets over probably one hundred of more holy
and we, through the grace of God is the only
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thing that's kept us from having so many people getting killed.
To the range, you had one person that got shot,
one hundred rounds fired, at least at least a hunt
rounds that were fired, and it's when we played a video.
Eventually you'll you'll be able to hear all the shots
that's going on.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You may not be able to speed on this.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And I can't remember exactly who's the defendant in this case,
but you mentioned it wasn't the mall's fault. Waffle house
that had nothing to do with it. But we've got
a case I believe that's still in process. It's on
Colonial like Boulevard. It was a restaurant there. I'm not
sure which one, but there is a family actually suing
the private ownership of the business because they said they
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knew the possibility existed for youth to get together and
that be that kind of outbreak. So I know this
is very litigious society, But do you happen to know
anything about that particular case.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That was in the city. But I do know about
the case, and it was an organized event, and what
they're suing is the people who organized the vent, who
didn't provide security gotcha and it drew a bunch of
kid young people there and then an innocent young man
was shot as he drove away to try to get
away from it. He got shot and killed. So that's
the difference. They actually had an event that they organized
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there and they didn't provide adequate security and for the safety,
and that's why they're being sued. What we're seeing is
that what we call them the pop up parties. You
put it on social media, Hey, we're all gonna meet
at the waffle House and Blackwood. Two hundred kids show up. Okay,
we run them from there. Next thing they put on
social media, we're gonna meet at the Exon station in Blackwood,
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or we're gonna meet somewhere else. They just they go,
They go from place to place. We think this originally
started at a party at somebody's house. They're renting these
airbnb houses really for parties, and then kids are doing this.
Two hundred kids show up or is.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It an adult that does it? And then somehow yeah,
is it somebody who's trying to make money off the
kids or is it somebody who's just interested.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
He's just stupid, okay, and being an idiot. And so
you have two hundred kids show up at a house,
and of course the neighbors end up calling we run them away,
and then they start putting okay, we're going from here,
and we're going over here, and then the people who
post that. Do they get in trouble? No, because it's
all the kids are posting it.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
But that's what I'm saying. So do they get in
trouble for posting that? Everybody come to sign?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
So no, I mean you can't. You can't charge them
for anything. And again, with the kids today that we've got,
there's always gonna be guns involved. And and then you
have when you put it out for everybody to see,
then you have the ones who don't care about going
to a party except to bring the guns and shoot
and cause problems. And that's what we saw and that's
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what that's what we saw this past weekend, is that
there's a bunch of crazy kids guns. And again I
don't know why they don't know that they're gonna get caught.
There's cameras everywhere today, no matter where you go, there's cameras.
We've got cameras that retag numbers, we've got cameras that
read your face, we've got facial recognition. We're gonna catch you. Yeah,
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But they don't think that. They just think they can
act like a gangster and run around with a gun
sideways and firing rounds and hiding, reloading and shooting more,
and they just shooting at everything. They hit everything in
the world except what they're shooting at. And again Saturday night,
none of the targets got hit. If some other innocent
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person got hit. Again, no different than what happened to plumbingball.
That's the world we live in now. People have to
understand it. It is a different world and it's dangerous
and we all need to take steps to be safe.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Well, you mentioned that the citizens in that particular meeting
weren't necessarily they're in person.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
They might have been watching on the social media.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
But is to be more community involvement in one of
the things that you've done having to do with bringing
some of the parents and prosecuting them if they're an
accessory to a crime.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Correct, So we've talked about that.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Now, well I want you to talk again about some
of the things that your department is doing to actually
help young people stay active and on the right track.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, and our Youth Service Division does all kinds of programs.
We do parent support groups, We do programs for our
kids before they ever get in trouble. You know, we
hate being reactive. We want to be proactive. So you know,
one of the first signs that a young person is
maybe going down that wrong path is that back talking,
being disrespectful verbally. And we have parents and grandparents of
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call and let us know. Those kids come in our
programs and we get them on the right path. So
we do a lot with youth services. But you got
the summer coming up. You know what's the Boy Scouts motto, Jonathan,
be prepared. That's what a parent has to do is
be prepared to have something playing for your children to
do during the summer. So I just laying around and
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finding trouble to get into. So we have all kinds
of summer camps. Last year we had over five hundred
kids go to different summer camps throughout the county that
are all basically free. Kids can do anything from science camps,
the sports camps, the character camps, whatever interest a child has,
we have a camp for them, and we encourage parents
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and grandparents have something for them to do. If it's
not our summer camp, have it at a church, have
it somewhere, but have something for them to do. You know,
if they're going to stay at home, have a list
of things for them to do. That day you get
home and they haven't done them, then you hold them
accountable for it. You're teaching them life skills by doing that.
Just don't let them lay around all the time or
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run the streets do whatever you know to twelve year olds.
We caught a couple of weeks ago, two o'clock in
the morning breaking in cars during the week when you're
supposed to be in school to twelve year olds. Question,
we asked the mom because there's no dad there, Oh,
why didn't you know your twelve year olds are in
the house? So you know she's gonna be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Also, one of the things you've heard over and over
again from youngsters who got involved with gangs is that
they wanted to be a part of the game because
it felt like somebody cared about them. Yeah, if you
don't get it at home, if you don't get it
at home, they're going to find somebody that they believe.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Cares about them.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
And I think your organization has done a great job
in Cherif's department putting together these activities and also helping
parents understand telltale signs like back talk. And that's only
going to end on somewhere. You don't want to see
your kid like in a mugshot, all right.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I think the sad thing though, is that, like when
you were talking about these these parents that don't care
and the kids don't feel the love and blah blah blah.
I don't imagine they're the ones. Those parents aren't listening
to us now. They're doing something else.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Unfortunately or not. And that's that's difficult to get the
ones who need it the most to listen to it.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah, but like you said, grandparents can be a big
part of it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Listening grandparents, I hope you listen to it and play
a big part into it. Worse whipping, I ever got
my life from my granddaddy, and I remember it today.
They didn't have a one time he told me not
to do something and I did it. My granddaddy whipped
my butt.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Growing up.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
On the farm. And and see here I am seventy
one years old, and I remember what happened to me
when I was probably about six or seven years old.
But that that was the learning process. And I and
I hear this is well, we can't discipline our children
will get locked up. I said, there is a difference
between discipline and abuse, and we all know where that
(25:36):
line is. You can discipline your children without abusing, But
how can you discippell the children today? They all live
on a phone or the games they play. Take the
day on things away from them. They don't buy that stuff.
Take them away and these parents white my own my
child had a gun. Well, when was the last time
you went in your child's room and churched it? When
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you're go the last time you go in your teenage
who's got you got a car for him? When you
search the car to make sure that they don't have
a gun there.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
The age old dad. It is just true parenting.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's the hardest job in the world, that's right, and
also for single moms it's doubly hard. Here's an opportunity
to get your young boys, if that should be the case,
or young girls as well, to be associated with men
in their lives who understand in the summer programs exactly
how to show that love, support and discipline if need be,
because you know, you guys have to help them understand
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as well, because they don't get it at home.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
It amazes me. Every morning on the way to the gym,
I hear a radio call go out. So and so's
called in report to this house, their son or daughter
won't get up out of bed and go to school.
Oh my god, a deputy. A deputy has to go
to the house and get that child up out of
bed and make them go to school. And we do that.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, you did that, We do that.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
We do that. Well, that parent can't do it. They
will call us. That is a nine to one one
call in the morning. We have to go to and
the deputy goes and they always get up and they
go to school. But it takes us to go do.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
How old are the kids that they're getting up?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Do we know? Like is it a ballpark?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I mean it's elementary, middle end, the high school kids.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
So you got like a nine year old who's like, nope,
not doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I'm not doing it. Guess who are going? Who does
people call when they need something? They call us. It
don't matter what it is. They call us. Wow. And
but these thepties go and they respond to that. Can
you imagine telling your parents when you were growing up,
I'm not getting I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Going the cops for help.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
They would be calling en amates or corner and come
pick me up. Yeah. But again, it's it's a different
culture and at and times now, and we have to
understand that and we have to adapt to it, but
we don't have to change the basic principles of life.
And that's what these kids don't understand. They're not getting
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they're not getting taught life skills at home. And if
they don't get it at home, and they sure don't
need to get it on the street from the gangs.
They need to get it from somebody, if it's a camp,
if it's a church, or if it's just an adult
who goes volunteers at elementary schools to be a lunch buddy.
We've got so many retirees out here that don't have
nothing to do. Go to an elementary school and sign
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up to be a lunch buddy. You just go have
lunch with these kids. They love it. And there is
a male figure or even an older female figure to
be in there just to talk to them and listen
to them.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Well, you can stop reaching. I'm going to go to
Medland for a second. Can you imagine if your kid
won't get them go to school where they get up
on Sunday morning and go to Sunday school. Oh my, now,
I donet start at it right there. Here's the shortest
list of the World Game members I have met in
Sunday School.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
They're not there.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I tell this story a lot of times when I
talk to people that you know, I grew up in
Aiken and and I was a drug addict, and my
parents caused me to be a drug addict. But it
was only on the weekend. Every Sunday morning they drug
me to church. And that's true that that was no
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question in my house. We were going to church on
Sunday morning. That was it. It didn't matter when I
got to be a teenager and I might have been
out too late on Saturday night. You were going to
church on Sunday morning.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Saluda County.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Achen was a cob work because my daddy was looking
at me and go, you want to go to Aiken.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And he wasn't talking about driving.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I know where he was talking about. But yeah, and
I thank my parents, and I thank my Sunday School
teachers and all them for that. They may have not
realized then what they were instilling in me, but then
that you grow older, you realize that. And that's what
you know. I've passed down to my kids, and my
kids are passing down to my grandkids. That's that's part.
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That was part of life. And even Mackenzie who goes
to college to play basketball usc Ach and all that stuff,
she go to church every Sunday morning. Her and three
other teammates. They never missed church on Sunday morning. It
didn't matter they didn't get back in from an away
game to two or three o'clock in the morning. They
were getting up and going to church. And that was
just part of her life as a college student.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Now, if a parent or grandparent one of the good
information on how to sign their kid up.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I've said, they can call it a chriff's department called
me five seven six three zero two one eight oh
three five seven six three zero two one, or our
website r CSD dot net just initials of the Richland
County Shriff's Department dot net and you'll be able to
see all the different programs we got.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Thank you for your work. Big salute volunteers, no deputies,
Thank you for serving our community.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Excellent you
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Isn't it truly amazing? It's like, you know, the Big
switch theory. We keep getting pritched to when should we
start the Big switch theory? When the Democrats suddenly were
the ones making sure that the ultra elites were protected
and they weren't as concerned as we've seen video from
back in the day about how middle class America has
(00:36):
been hollowed out from US outsourcing all of our jobs
to countries that had cheaper labor.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And you know who would have ever thought it was
the Democrats who were harassing Jews and painting swastikas. That
seems to be a very favorite pastime of the Democrats now.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
So yesterday, while we were talking on this podcast, we
were up sixteen hundred, then we went down, and then
we ended up in the and MSNBC was outraged that
we were in the red. By the close of business day,
I thought it actually closed up just a little bit.
But nonetheless, the after hour trading hit, and then at
midnight last night, Donald Trump's reciprocal terrorists went into effect,
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and the Chinese want to play hardball. I look, I'm
not sure if I understand exactly why we're not carving
out a little something for pharmaceuticals because we.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Ship everything in.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We don't even make penicillin in this country, and most
of it, probably eighty percent, I don't know where the
percentage is. It's a lot of it comes from China,
which has always been a national security threat. I thought so,
I would have thought they would have carved out a
little something for the pharmaceuticals, but it's across the board reciprocal.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, on top of it, Donald Trump says he's going
to be targeting all major pharmaceuticals, so get ready for that.
And if I have, well, I have numerous complaints about
the Trump administration, one of which is that Donald Trump
has not done a very good job of explaining exactly
what he wants out of these tariffs. And I'm guessing
(02:06):
because he hasn't told us this, I'm guessing that the
reason he's not telling us or anybody else what he
wants is because he wants He likes that uncertainty.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
He believes it gives him extra.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Leverage in negotiations because you don't know what he wants,
and so people just kowtow to him.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But what do we got?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Seventy countries now trying to make deals with us? So
that's great, but I'm not sure how far he wants
to take this. Does this end up in a actual
not just a trade war with China, but I mean
it's some sort of global trade war because if we
are putting these tariffs on China, China is going to
have to dump their products somewhere because they've got literally
(02:44):
trillions of dollars in crap that we usually buy and
they can't buy it. Right the people in China can't
buy the China crap, so where are they going to
put it? They're going to start trying to flood Europe
with it, I would imagine, and then what happened then?
Are we going to ask Europeans to start putting a
block on the Chinese as well in order for them
(03:05):
to feel the pain. I'm not really sure how it
plays out over the next six months or whatever. And
that's why we have a lot of uncertainty in the
markets and a lot of other things. But again, uncertainty
in the market is not a bad thing if you're
just recognizing what Donald Trump is trying to do. And
again he hasn't done a very good job of explaining
this either. But from what I can gather from what
(03:26):
he's said and what other Trump administration officials have said,
is we're resetting the way the economy works for the
entire globe because we are the number one consumer of
everything on the earth. I mean, there's literally nothing. We're
not the number one consumer of food, medicine, cars, electricity, gas, whatever.
(03:48):
We're number one. So you've got to sell it through us.
And we don't like the deals that we have with y'all.
So we're going to change the whole world. That's not
going to be like a weekend adventure.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
This is yeah, this is like years long.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It's going to take a while.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And then the other timeline problem is, as he announces
it as he should, all of the investments that are coming. Again,
you can't just wheel in a factory and PLoP it
down and in the middle of Indiana and start making
hondas tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Well and there you know, look, I think a lot
of people have commented on this that they wouldn't be surprised.
Let's just put it that way. We can't tell you
how fast they're going to build a factory. Sometimes you
see fat like Elon Musk built a factory. I believe
I might be misquoting this. We should Google check me
on this one. I think he built the largest factory
(04:37):
in the world, Like just full end statement, it's like
a billion square feet in eighteen months from the time
he announced it to the time it opened. It was
eighteen months. So it's possible. But it's also possible that
you could see, you could just hide behind. We got
some red tape here in this state, and we got
(04:57):
to we gotta do some water studies.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
And we got to do that.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And what they're really trying to do is just hedge
their bets. Is this Donald Trump thing going to collapse?
And if it is, then we're not coming in with
our factories.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well, certainly going to put more pressure on making sure
that Congress, the House Anderson had come about with a big,
beautiful build and quit grand standing, as he said yesterday.
Now the uncertainty of it all, as you mentioned, Look,
I didn't write the book. Now we've got people claiming
he didn't write the book. But he's certainly a great negotiator.
I know he knows what he's doing. I got full
(05:29):
trust that the man, certainly more so than Congress, knows
how to negotiate a trade deal. But for him to
yesterday when he was talking about quit your grandstanding, as
he was standing there, as many people would describe grandstanding,
I'm not saying that's what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I've seen grandstanding before.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Did a look like that.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And then to openly come out and say we got
countries flying here to kiss his ass.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Could have been a little I thought would have been
an overstatement. But here again, I know, messaging is very important.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm not sure that I understand exactly what the messaging is,
but it's targeted to somebody. That's for damn sure.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Look, I just I want people to understand I am
very pro maga. I am pro maga. I love Donald Trump.
So I'm not saying negative things about Donald Trump. I'm
saying there are negativities to I mean, I look, I
wouldn't say this in public, but I could point out
negativities about.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Every family member I have.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Right, it's not like I have to agree with everything
that Donald Trump says and does, so yes, he was grandstanding.
I also agree with Rand Paul that this tariffs should
be under the purview of Congress because they are attacks.
Tariffs are attacks, and that's supposed to fall under Congress.
(06:42):
So this fact that we have a big vote coming
up here to figure out whether or not they're going
to steal the power back from the president, that's not
something that I'm pointing at Donald Trump about. I'm pointing
at that's the way the government is supposed to work.
That the founding fathers like when people say, well, we
got to get government to do more, you know you
actually want government to do less. Yes, we don't want
(07:05):
government doing very much. And that's the way that was designed.
That's why you've got this tension between how do you
get things passed in a place where you've got one
hundred Senators and like five hundred congress people and they
and then you got the power of the veto. It's
all supposed to move it like glacier speed, very slow,
(07:25):
and yet we in our haste, like right now, we
love the fact that Trump's moving at lightning speed because
he's doing a lot of the things that we like.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
But put the shoe on the other foot.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
You get a exactly, you get a president Kamala Harris
in four years or whatever, and she's doing the same things.
We're gonna be like she's destroying the country, and she
would be.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
And we got the market balancing back and forth on
the bubble as we speak. And there's a picture of
Mike Johnson as to get ready to see what's going
to happen with a big, big, beautiful bill. And as
Kelly mentioned, you turn it over to Congress, and as
Donald Trump mentioned yesterday with the grand stand, and we
got a couple of republics. I'm not sure they're going
to come about with a big.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Big beautiful bill. The better you better get that crap straight.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
The market has already baked that thing in. They've already
they've already counted that those tax cuts continue if you
If this thing doesn't pass and America gets a huge
tax increase on top of the tariffs, we're screwed.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I guess who's not going to help you, Hakeem Shomer.
All right, no matter what they said thirty years ago,
they've changed their position. Mister Philip Flopp explained it to
you again. I'm sure somewhere today on a television station
near you if you watch and CNN or MSNBC and
look at these look at the studio door, Kelly, then Ash,
Welcome in the studio, Richly, Kenny Sheriff, Leon Lot, good
(08:39):
to see you the morning.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Good morning, gentlemen. Great to be with you and your
listeners again. Well, our monthly check in.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
That's right, we're checking in.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'm glad you came in today because just looking at
the headlines of the past couple of days, I know
you've been a very busy man.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
You're not happy about it. I'm a shoot, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You must be talking about Lady game cocks.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, I thought you were there.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I didn't see you on camera this time. I always
look for the crowd.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I was right there in my normal seat. Now, did
you also have a Louis Vaton tracksuit on and the shoes? Yeah? Yeah,
we're sitting here laughing making fun of it. Nobody expected
them to be where they were at. I mean, I
think this is one of the coach. Staley's greatest coaching
jobs was this year to take a group of talented
(09:26):
players mesh them together and come in basically number two
in the nation when nobody thought they would even be anywhere.
Look at the teams they lost to Connecticut twice, Texas
and UCLA, all teams that are in the final four.
And you didn't see one of her players get named
as an All American. So you know, it was a team.
She coached a team, and this past Sunday just had
(09:50):
a better team. Connecticut was the better team last Sunday
and beat them. She's already, you know, making some changes.
She already got the transfer, the high the number one
score in the nation from Florida. State's already signed here.
Raven Johnson's coming back for another year. She's on the
recruiting trail, so they'll be back. But yeah, it was
(10:10):
disappointing that they lost, but also look at what they
did this year, and I don't think that needs to
be overlooked. So but we had fun. We had had
a good time, girl, and watching those girls cry and
the motions that they had after the game, you know,
I think volumes on how much they care about the
game and how they you know, and what she's instilled
(10:32):
upon them. Now she's more than just a basketball coach.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I mean the segue from sports talk to crime talk.
What happened at the Columbia Mall on two notche A
lot of people still got questions.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Same thing I talk about all the time. A bunch
of group of young people with guns and Team A
against Team B. They just show up. They just happened
to run into each other at the mall. Of course,
like everybody, they've got their guns with them. Of course
you got your guns, concluding your long gun that you have,
don't don't you take your long gun into the mall? Also,
are you serious? And so Team A sees Team B
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and Team BC's teammate and they said, oh, let's start shooting.
So they have a shootout. Unfortunately, an innocent bystander was hit.
Of course, none of them get shot, you know the
terrible shots. You know, they shoot up the stores, they
shoot some innocent guy. And and what was I guess
probably the most egregious thing to me. There was a
(11:26):
mom there with a baby and a stroller, caught right
in the middle of it. And initially social media was
talking about all the un infant got shot, infanite night shot.
The mom didn't get shot, but they were right there
in the middle with all the gunfire going on. Of
course they saw on video, and of course people are
going to be going to jail, yeah, there to catch them.
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They're being caught being caught again again. You know, ninety
nine percent of the crime that happens, we saw it,
and this is another shooting that's gonna happen. But when
it was initially put out, it was that was active
shooter in the mall. So of course we respond with
everybody at that point, and you know, we surround them all,
(12:10):
go in check the whole all. But as we're doing that,
investigators are doing their job and we discovered that soon
to shooting, they stopped shooting each other. They ran, jumped
in the cars and took off. Just what we see
the cars and see tag numbers and all that stuff.
So yeah, they they're not rocket scientists and so make
it easy. But it is, I mean, it made national news.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I mean rocket science.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
You know, you don't often see the Beta club members
walking around with the gun.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
No, I mean Fox and Friends call them on to
interview me on this talking. We don't know talking, We
don't need to talk. It was nothing to talk about,
and it it's not the mall. The ma all didn't
cost the shopping all. People started complaining about the mall,
and we need to complain about the people who actually
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did the shooting. That it didn't matter if they was
in the mall, if they was in the Hearty's, or
they was here at the radio station. It's just teammate
runs into t B and they all got guns and
they shoot. So it's not the location, it's the people.
And a lot of people want to blame it. Blame
it on them all, blame it on them all. It
wasn't the mall's fault. It was the people, and they're
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gonna be held accountable for it. That's just it's a shame.
That's the world we live in now. And I've talked
about it for years on this show. Young people with
guns who do not understand the consequence of their action,
and they're gonna find out the consequence of their do
they can't here though.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
That's the other problem is they don't even care about
the consequences.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
They don't at that moment, and then later on when
they get sentenced to thirty five and forty years, then
they start caring about it. At that point. Look at
the ones that did a shooting at Columbiana Mall Easter
what three years ago they got sentenced. There's thirty years
thirty five years. Wow, they're gonna understand the consequences after
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they've been in prison for about twenty years. And maybe
I should have done something stupid.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
And I think everybody's seen the video outside of the
waffle house.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Oh yes, that was another big shootout we had. And
what was ironic about that is Blifewood had a Movies
in the Park at Doco Park like a month ago,
and this is a family event. This is where families
come watch movies and stuff. And of course you had
a bunch of teenagers that come crash it and they
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get in a fight. And then they stopped doing the
pop up parties. They would go from one place to
the next and you know that whack them mold that
you hit, he hit it one and pops up somewhere else.
That's what they were doing. And so Blackwood Town Council said,
will you come and do a town hall meeting? I suggest,
So we had that last last week. Last Wednesday went
(14:46):
to the town hall meeting. I had nine deputies there,
there was the mayor, two council people, newspaper reporter, a
TV reporter, and three citizens. And I told them, then,
y'all are going to have your one shooting away from
this area exploding, and it's going to be on the spotlight.
But there was nobody to hear that. People were on
(15:07):
social media complaining and stuff. But when it came time
to actually be there where they could hear what we
were doing and what they need to be doing, they
didn't show up. And then lo and behold Saturday night,
that's when we have it. Those kids were not from
the Blithewood area. They were outside of the Blithewood area.
They were not associated with the prom. Some people have
said that, and people are going to jail on that too.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I was just reading the story in LTx and there's
some citizen quoted in here, and the way that's written,
it sounds as if the citizen or the mayor agrees
with the citizen. So it says a bree culter says
that there should be a curfew for people under the
age of twenty one after eleven PM. Blightwood Mayor Sloan
(15:52):
Griffin agreed on Tuesday, said he had already spoken with
Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott about the incident. Is this
something that like is that I mean, the way it's written,
it sounds like that's what you guys were discussing.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I don't know that that's the case.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Is that something that you could ever enforce a curfew
after eleven for a nineteen year old?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Well, they're actually looking at under eighteen, okay, curfew, So
they are discussing having a curfew in the town of
life Wood after I think nine o'clock, nine o'clock, it's
gonna be quite early, so and we will be able
to enforce it. You can, I can't enforce it.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You can arrest like a seventeen year old for walking
down the street.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It is not the rest of the goals to get
them off the street and have parents take some responsibility.
And the video that you're talking about now that you
saw a few minutes ago, we put that out not
so much asking people to identify who was in the video.
We wanted parents to see, this is your child, the
two hundred kids that were out there running crazy, This
(16:52):
is your child out here, and this is what your
child is doing at two in the morning. Yeah, and
two in the morning. And I don't think a lot
of pay may even realize or even care. We wanted
everybody to see it. So there's gonna be more videos
can release, cause, uh, every everything up there was on camera.
So we've got the shooters on camera, we've got the
(17:13):
vehicles on camera. We've got them on camera. We've already
got a rest warrant. So you know, we're gonna hold
people response, but the community needs to see. This is
what we're dealing with. Two hundred kids just running wild,
going up and down the streets. So it wasn't again,
you know, y'all brought it up to the Wallflouse, waffle house
didn't have nothing to do with it. They were at
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the waffle house, they went to car wash, they were
at the gas station up there. They were just all
over the place. And here they are with their guns
and they're standing there shooting. We're talking about lots and
lots of bullets over probably one hundred of more holy
and we, through the grace of God is the only
(17:58):
thing that's kept us from having so many people getting killed.
To the range, you had one person that got shot,
one hundred rounds fired, at least at least a hunt
rounds that were fired, and it's when we played a video.
Eventually you'll you'll be able to hear all the shots
that's going on.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You may not be able to speed on this.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
And I can't remember exactly who's the defendant in this case,
but you mentioned it wasn't the mall's fault. Waffle house
that had nothing to do with it. But we've got
a case I believe that's still in process. It's on
Colonial like Boulevard. It was a restaurant there. I'm not
sure which one, but there is a family actually suing
the private ownership of the business because they said they
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knew the possibility existed for youth to get together and
that be that kind of outbreak. So I know this
is very litigious society, But do you happen to know
anything about that particular case.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
That was in the city. But I do know about
the case, and it was an organized event, and what
they're suing is the people who organized the vent, who
didn't provide security gotcha and it drew a bunch of
kid young people there and then an innocent young man
was shot as he drove away to try to get
away from it. He got shot and killed. So that's
the difference. They actually had an event that they organized
(19:21):
there and they didn't provide adequate security and for the safety,
and that's why they're being sued. What we're seeing is
that what we call them the pop up parties. You
put it on social media, Hey, we're all gonna meet
at the waffle House and Blackwood. Two hundred kids show up. Okay,
we run them from there. Next thing they put on
social media, we're gonna meet at the Exon station in Blackwood,
(19:43):
or we're gonna meet somewhere else. They just they go,
They go from place to place. We think this originally
started at a party at somebody's house. They're renting these
airbnb houses really for parties, and then kids are doing this.
Two hundred kids show up or is.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It an adult that does it? And then somehow yeah,
is it somebody who's trying to make money off the
kids or is it somebody who's just interested.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
He's just stupid, okay, and being an idiot. And so
you have two hundred kids show up at a house,
and of course the neighbors end up calling we run them away,
and then they start putting okay, we're going from here,
and we're going over here, and then the people who
post that. Do they get in trouble? No, because it's
all the kids are posting it.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
But that's what I'm saying. So do they get in
trouble for posting that? Everybody come to sign?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
So no, I mean you can't. You can't charge them
for anything. And again, with the kids today that we've got,
there's always gonna be guns involved. And and then you
have when you put it out for everybody to see,
then you have the ones who don't care about going
to a party except to bring the guns and shoot
and cause problems. And that's what we saw and that's
(20:54):
what that's what we saw this past weekend, is that
there's a bunch of crazy kids guns. And again I
don't know why they don't know that they're gonna get caught.
There's cameras everywhere today, no matter where you go, there's cameras.
We've got cameras that retag numbers, we've got cameras that
read your face, we've got facial recognition. We're gonna catch you. Yeah,
(21:17):
But they don't think that. They just think they can
act like a gangster and run around with a gun
sideways and firing rounds and hiding, reloading and shooting more,
and they just shooting at everything. They hit everything in
the world except what they're shooting at. And again Saturday night,
none of the targets got hit. If some other innocent
(21:40):
person got hit. Again, no different than what happened to plumbingball.
That's the world we live in now. People have to
understand it. It is a different world and it's dangerous
and we all need to take steps to be safe.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Well, you mentioned that the citizens in that particular meeting
weren't necessarily they're in person.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
They might have been watching on the social media.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
But is to be more community involvement in one of
the things that you've done having to do with bringing
some of the parents and prosecuting them if they're an
accessory to a crime.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Correct, So we've talked about that.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Now, well I want you to talk again about some
of the things that your department is doing to actually
help young people stay active and on the right track.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, and our Youth Service Division does all kinds of programs.
We do parent support groups, We do programs for our
kids before they ever get in trouble. You know, we
hate being reactive. We want to be proactive. So you know,
one of the first signs that a young person is
maybe going down that wrong path is that back talking,
being disrespectful verbally. And we have parents and grandparents of
(22:44):
call and let us know. Those kids come in our
programs and we get them on the right path. So
we do a lot with youth services. But you got
the summer coming up. You know what's the Boy Scouts motto, Jonathan,
be prepared. That's what a parent has to do is
be prepared to have something playing for your children to
do during the summer. So I just laying around and
(23:05):
finding trouble to get into. So we have all kinds
of summer camps. Last year we had over five hundred
kids go to different summer camps throughout the county that
are all basically free. Kids can do anything from science camps,
the sports camps, the character camps, whatever interest a child has,
we have a camp for them, and we encourage parents
(23:27):
and grandparents have something for them to do. If it's
not our summer camp, have it at a church, have
it somewhere, but have something for them to do. You know,
if they're going to stay at home, have a list
of things for them to do. That day you get
home and they haven't done them, then you hold them
accountable for it. You're teaching them life skills by doing that.
Just don't let them lay around all the time or
(23:47):
run the streets do whatever you know to twelve year olds.
We caught a couple of weeks ago, two o'clock in
the morning breaking in cars during the week when you're
supposed to be in school to twelve year olds. Question,
we asked the mom because there's no dad there, Oh,
why didn't you know your twelve year olds are in
the house? So you know she's gonna be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Also, one of the things you've heard over and over
again from youngsters who got involved with gangs is that
they wanted to be a part of the game because
it felt like somebody cared about them. Yeah, if you
don't get it at home, if you don't get it
at home, they're going to find somebody that they believe.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Cares about them.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
And I think your organization has done a great job
in Cherif's department putting together these activities and also helping
parents understand telltale signs like back talk. And that's only
going to end on somewhere. You don't want to see
your kid like in a mugshot, all right.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I think the sad thing though, is that, like when
you were talking about these these parents that don't care
and the kids don't feel the love and blah blah blah.
I don't imagine they're the ones. Those parents aren't listening
to us now. They're doing something else.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Unfortunately or not. And that's that's difficult to get the
ones who need it the most to listen to it.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah, but like you said, grandparents can be a big
part of it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Listening grandparents, I hope you listen to it and play
a big part into it. Worse whipping, I ever got
my life from my granddaddy, and I remember it today.
They didn't have a one time he told me not
to do something and I did it. My granddaddy whipped
my butt.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Growing up.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
On the farm. And and see here I am seventy
one years old, and I remember what happened to me
when I was probably about six or seven years old.
But that that was the learning process. And I and
I hear this is well, we can't discipline our children
will get locked up. I said, there is a difference
between discipline and abuse, and we all know where that
(25:36):
line is. You can discipline your children without abusing, But
how can you discippell the children today? They all live
on a phone or the games they play. Take the
day on things away from them. They don't buy that stuff.
Take them away and these parents white my own my
child had a gun. Well, when was the last time
you went in your child's room and churched it? When
(25:58):
you're go the last time you go in your teenage
who's got you got a car for him? When you
search the car to make sure that they don't have
a gun there.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
The age old dad. It is just true parenting.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
It's the hardest job in the world, that's right, and
also for single moms it's doubly hard. Here's an opportunity
to get your young boys, if that should be the case,
or young girls as well, to be associated with men
in their lives who understand in the summer programs exactly
how to show that love, support and discipline if need be,
because you know, you guys have to help them understand
(26:28):
as well, because they don't get it at home.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
It amazes me. Every morning on the way to the gym,
I hear a radio call go out. So and so's
called in report to this house, their son or daughter
won't get up out of bed and go to school.
Oh my god, a deputy. A deputy has to go
to the house and get that child up out of
bed and make them go to school. And we do that.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, you did that, We do that.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
We do that. Well, that parent can't do it. They
will call us. That is a nine to one one
call in the morning. We have to go to and
the deputy goes and they always get up and they
go to school. But it takes us to go do.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
How old are the kids that they're getting up?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Do we know? Like is it a ballpark?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Like?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I mean it's elementary, middle end, the high school kids.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
So you got like a nine year old who's like, nope,
not doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I'm not doing it. Guess who are going? Who does
people call when they need something? They call us. It
don't matter what it is. They call us. Wow. And
but these thepties go and they respond to that. Can
you imagine telling your parents when you were growing up,
I'm not getting I'm.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Going the cops for help.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
They would be calling en amates or corner and come
pick me up. Yeah. But again, it's it's a different
culture and at and times now, and we have to
understand that and we have to adapt to it, but
we don't have to change the basic principles of life.
And that's what these kids don't understand. They're not getting
(28:05):
they're not getting taught life skills at home. And if
they don't get it at home, and they sure don't
need to get it on the street from the gangs.
They need to get it from somebody, if it's a camp,
if it's a church, or if it's just an adult
who goes volunteers at elementary schools to be a lunch buddy.
We've got so many retirees out here that don't have
nothing to do. Go to an elementary school and sign
(28:26):
up to be a lunch buddy. You just go have
lunch with these kids. They love it. And there is
a male figure or even an older female figure to
be in there just to talk to them and listen
to them.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Well, you can stop reaching. I'm going to go to
Medland for a second. Can you imagine if your kid
won't get them go to school where they get up
on Sunday morning and go to Sunday school. Oh my, now,
I donet start at it right there. Here's the shortest
list of the World Game members I have met in
Sunday School.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
They're not there.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I tell this story a lot of times when I
talk to people that you know, I grew up in
Aiken and and I was a drug addict, and my
parents caused me to be a drug addict. But it
was only on the weekend. Every Sunday morning they drug
me to church. And that's true that that was no
(29:13):
question in my house. We were going to church on
Sunday morning. That was it. It didn't matter when I
got to be a teenager and I might have been
out too late on Saturday night. You were going to
church on Sunday morning.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Saluda County.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Achen was a cob work because my daddy was looking
at me and go, you want to go to Aiken.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And he wasn't talking about driving.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I know where he was talking about. But yeah, and
I thank my parents, and I thank my Sunday School
teachers and all them for that. They may have not
realized then what they were instilling in me, but then
that you grow older, you realize that. And that's what
you know. I've passed down to my kids, and my
kids are passing down to my grandkids. That's that's part.
(29:53):
That was part of life. And even Mackenzie who goes
to college to play basketball usc Ach and all that stuff,
she go to church every Sunday morning. Her and three
other teammates. They never missed church on Sunday morning. It
didn't matter they didn't get back in from an away
game to two or three o'clock in the morning. They
were getting up and going to church. And that was
just part of her life as a college student.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Now, if a parent or grandparent one of the good
information on how to sign their kid up.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I've said, they can call it a chriff's department called
me five seven six three zero two one eight oh
three five seven six three zero two one, or our
website r CSD dot net just initials of the Richland
County Shriff's Department dot net and you'll be able to
see all the different programs we got.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Thank you for your work. Big salute volunteers, no deputies,
Thank you for serving our community.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Excellent you
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