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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, her body was blanketed in bruises, she was strangled,
that she was raped, she was eaten so badly that
her body was blanketed in bruises, and that she was
stuffed into a dreamed pipe.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Kelly Nash, I think it's important that we go to
Al Salvador to show his family, his wife, his mother,
his brother, his kids that were not giving up the.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Jonathan and Kelly Show. WOC Yesterday was such a bizarre
day to be in America, let alone being a zip
coat anywhere Maryland, especially in the city of Baltimore. You
got the verdict that came down against the MS thirteen
member who brutally and she went into another interview I
saw yesterday with a description of the family was sitting
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in the courtroom and I heard that the description of
what this guy did. I mean, this poor woman, Rachel
mayor Warren Maren, this poor woman was I mean just
unbelievably beaten. And then as it was described in court,
she was drug into the tunnel or culvert or whatever
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it was and raped, and I mean it was just
brutal hearing it. I'm not even related to the woman
and the crimes against humanity just in this one particular
murder charge. And then in the same zip code of
the same city, you got a senator, a Democrat who
we talked about yesterday. Plainly, Republicans are the party of
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law and order. Democrats are the party of criminal justice,
he announces. And by the way, she went on to
talk about how he never called Biden trum Trump administration
called Joe Biden, none of his ale hanro Maucus never
called the family. But he announces he's gonna fly to
Old Salvador to bring back an MS thirteam member.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Well, he's not gonna be able to get him back.
He knows that. Chris van Holland said today from the
airport that he's going there to try to see him
and to let him know that we're not going to
give up the fight. We want you back in America.
We desperately want to reunite with your family, and you
are one of my constituents, even though you're not an American citizens.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I want this guy to have an ankle bracelet, and
I want two ankle bracelets and two Risks bracelets. Okay,
if he ever steps foot out geographically of the city
of Baltimore, are certainly the state of Maryland that he
automatically be electrocuted to death. Do not let this MS
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thirteen member come back to terrorize all of us, Sir,
If you want him back for your hometown, you take
him to your home, You take him to your city.
You want this guy walk in the streets in an
MS thirteen gang member association and possibly see another play out,
just like we saw the MS thirteen verdict. Come down
to your own friggin zip code, you idiot.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Well, I think that the Democrats and a lot of
other people maybe in the middle, would say, you don't
know that he's an MS thirteen gang member, and I
don't know if he is or he isn't. He wasn't arrested.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
We got two courts to say it was associated with
the MS thirteen.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Gotcha, But he hasn't been arrested for rape or drug
trafficking or any serious charges. But that being said, he's
still not an American citizen. He's been here since twenty eleven.
He never took the time to try to even become
a citizen. He's back in his homeland of l Salvador.
Now they say they've got charges on him. That's between
l Salvador his home cut. It's kind of like when
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you were a draft dodger in the United States. A
lot of countries didn't respect that. We had a law
that said, if you don't sign up for the military service,
you can go to jail, and you will go to
jail during Vietnam if you didn't fight, and they tried
to hide some of the draft dodgers or whatever, and
America didn't like it. When Canada was doing that, and
we did get some of them back and we did
put them in prison, and a lot of people around.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
The world didn't like it.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Right now, you might not like that El Salvador says
that this guy was a member of the Barrio eighteen
boys and he committed crimes that his parents then shipped
I'm off here to Maryland to live with his older
brother to get away from the law. And now that
he's back in El Salvador, he's going to prison for
what they say he did. That's between El Salvador and him,
not us. You can't ask El Salvador to give up
one of their own citizens, all right. I'll take all
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of the forced association, which.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I presented to attach to this person whose name I
shall not pronounce even if I knew how to pronounce it,
kill me not going to I'll take all that emotion
and all the correlation away and let me just let
me just go into the Senator's office as one of
his free advisors. Sir, I know that you want to
make a big pitch out of this, and you've got
some research that shows that the AOC part of the
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party was to make sure that we take care of
the show man. And I know you're trying to prove
your relevance inside the Democrat Party, let a law in
American politics within itself. But I don't think it's really
good timing for you to come out of the same
day that we have the description of the horrific murder
with an MS THIR team member who I realized not
associated but this guy, so we know other than two
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courts saying he was. I don't think this is a
good look for you to come out to present yourself
as being the fighter for independence and individual freedoms of
American citizens in the due process of law, and then
do your big pitch as you head out on an
airplane paid for by the taxpayers to fly to go
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talk with the warden of this incredible humanitarian event space
in Alsaphatore. I don't think that's a good idea. Now,
I know you have the cognitive abilities of Joe Biden,
so you may not be able to see that from
your perspective. Maybe you're too personally attached to this, not
necessarily as being a senator, but as a father. As
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you talked about, you want to bring this guy back
to be able to spend time with his family, which
is something this other woman will never be able to do,
and that was graphically described in the court room. I'm
not sure those correlations are going to work for you.
How about that?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Well, look, he's running for president. Chris van Holland's not
running for president. Chris van Holland is running to be
a senator in liberal Maryland.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And if he.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Reads polls, and we saw the poll right, it's less
than a month ago that CNN came out with their
poll that shows a complete reversal of the Democrat Party
in the last ten years. They want obstructionists, They want
people who will fight Donald Trump on anything. If Donald
Trump said it's free paid holidays for everybody, you better
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fight that. If Donald Trump said we're going to make
sure every unemployed person has a job, or we're going
to make sure that every homeless person has a home,
you better go and fight him on everything that Donald
Trump does. That is according to the CNN polls, and
that is a complete role reversal. They don't want government
to do anything. They just want to stop Donald Trump.
That's all they want. So whatever Trump's for, you're against,
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and you better be vocal about it. That's the polling.
And so AOC's rising, Bernie Sanders is rising, Elizabeth Warren
is rising the far left wing part and Chris van
Holland had been kind of in the middle. He was
about to be primaried. Uh oh, you better get your
ass to l Salvador if you want to save this seat.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Okay, And this really is where I would have thought
at some point the train would have come off the tracks,
but it has not. At this point, I thought that
with the way the left was pushing itself even further left,
and AOC was describing it all. And then we got
Jasmine Crocket piling in and the poll that you talk about,
and the face of resistance is going to be somewhere
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between AOC and Jasmine Crockett. Because although Bernie Sanders probably
should be the face of resistance, he's been trying to
get traction for more than thirty five forty years, he
can't quite do it. Although he's owned the same look.
Bernie's true to himself and I got it, has got
the same pitch. The same man that wants to fight
oligarchies is the same guy who wants to set up
a socialist system here that plainly is, according to history,
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is always ruled by all arks, with one of them
being on top. Now Bernie thinks, maybe he thinks he's
going to be the one on top. I don't know.
I guess you even had the Democrat Party and they're
oligarchies take him down when he was running against Hillary,
as we talked about, So I would have thought that
this is going to be when somebody who really would
have a good shot at it. Maybe it was Wes Moore,
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maybe it was Shapiro, someone who's a little more moderate
as a Democrat, but have an opportunity to come in
and start gaining traction. So Stephen A. Smith won't have
to run for the Democratic nomination for the presidency and
take on jd Vance or whoever ends up running for
the excuse me, Donald Trump is he runs for his
third term, as it's being propagated now by MSNBC and
CNN again. But apparently Shapiro is and Wes Moore, they're
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not going to be able to make a climb to
the top of the new Democrat Party because it's all
going to be extreme leftist.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well, you have to win your primaries, and the base
wants anyone who will fight Trump and anything associated with Trump.
So you look like we had the news break yesterday.
Look at the campaign contributions of the first quarter, AOC
tripled what she did last year, tripled it. She got
nine point six million dollars in the first quarter of
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this year. Bernie Sanders did eleven and a half million
dollars in the first quarter of this year. I mean,
these are staggering numbers. Bernie Sanders still has nineteen million
sitting in a bank account. He's not even trying to fundraise.
People are just throwing money at him. Keep fighting, Bernie,
keep fighting. When you look at people like Jasmine Crockett
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is at two million dollars in the first quarter of
this year, there's not one Republican house member in the
country that got two million. Jasmine Crockett, she's a superstar.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Now we already, by the way, with the investigation on
that money, what he's at. I have to check on
that later because I don't have that information in front
of me, Jasmine Crockett. All right, So speaking of money,
let's go ahead and talk about what's going to happen
here in South Carolina. Apparently, Elon Musk, we might bring
the flag down off the dome, folded up and put
it away because we're going to erase the state of
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South Carolina, because we're not going to spend any more
federal money to celebrate South Carolinians. For instance, we've got
fifteen thousand dollars to research black South Carolinians who fought
in the Revolutionary War. Now that money was appropriated as
many of the funds listed in the article today by Congress,
and now that money is going to be called back
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by Eli Musk. And it goes on to talk about
several historical projects where that money's not going to be
available anymore for South Carolinians. And then there's a huge
battle against the arts here.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Did you say fifteen thousand dollars to research black South
Carolinians who fought in the Revolutionary War. That's right, Well,
I mean, wouldn't we have already done that?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Do we have a list of them? And what does
fifteen thousand dollars do? Like? Where does that go? Like?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
What are you going to accomplish with that? Are you
going to is it to interview people who are there?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And we may have listeners right now who are going
to be part of lose that money because maybe there's
gonna be something in Camden, South Carolina's oldest in the
city and certainly many historical landmarks for the Revolutionary and
the Civil War.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
It just seemed like if you're gonna have some sort
of breakthrough information on black South Carolinians or any South
Carolinians who fought in the Revolutionary War, it would cost
a lot more than fifteen thousand dollars. I don't know
what fifteen thousand dollars will do for you.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I don't We haven't heard, specifically in this article about
anyone from that particular project. We heard from some other people.
We got some interesting quotes to get to, but the
arts are going to take it on the chin as well.
Twenty three hundred dollars for the poetry festival and rockhel
Gone Gone.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
So why did I need twenty three hundred dollars for
a poetry festival to begin with?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
It doesn't describe that, like, what was that paying for
about ten thousand dollars towards storytelling seminars for veterans, So.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Only veterans were admitted into this. I can't hear the
story because I'm not a veteran.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Well, this is not a mint of the Slam. But
I tell you this right now because I've had an
opportunity to talk with a lot of veterans. If you
get two or three veterans together, we don't need money
for storytelling because these guys have got some stories that
have put damn chills up and down your spine.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
And I mean, what was the ten thousand dollars for?
Did we have to pay people to read stories.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
To the veterans? It doesn't describe that. Those can't we
get the books for free at the library. Those are
just some of the recent grands.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Maybe they're the books that got kicked out of the library.
Maybe the veterans want to hear the freakidiky books that
we don't have in the libraries anymore, and that's why
we had to go buy them on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
South Carolina Humanitarians Humanities Council, which helps fund cultural enrichment
efforts all over the state, is grieving the fact that
this money's gonna be clawed back.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I love the fact that it says that that group,
the South Carolina Humanities Council, picks up the tab and
then dot dot with the federal dollars, so they don't
provide squat you the taxpayer, send it to DC, they
go and beg and I'm sure DCS takes a little,
nice little portion for themselves, and then they send it
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back here and then you get stuff like storytelling seminars
for veterans for ten thousand dollars. And it's I mean,
who doesn't want to help the veterans.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well, and as you say, they went and asked for
the money, they got it. Now, they didn't make a
promise to us that they were going to spend fifteen
thousand dollars on researching black South Carolinians who fought the
Revolutionary War. So in fact, they decided to give you
that money for that purpose. So they did fund it
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with their federal dollars and all those told the National
Endowment for the Amanities to claw back one one hundred
and seventy five million from its budget of over two
hundred million. This is funding that was appropriated by Congress.
Who's Elon must think he is? He's an olig arc.
Aren't you listening to AOC.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
We didn't Joe Biden say last night that the reason
that Elon Musk is doing this is so that he
can then give tax breaks to the billionaires.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
That's right. I don't know sure, because we got we
got so much information we need to share with South
Carolinians about this article. I'm not sure we could even
talk about Joe Biden's big relaunch into the public domain
last night. That was a great relaunch. Wow. Wow, the
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cuts to Humanity's account for a fraction at the percentage
of the national budget. Come on, you guys were just
we just we're counting pennies over here.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, no, they look I get if I'm in the
South Carolina Humanities crew, I'm upset because according to this
they were supposed to receive a million dollars. That was
the promise Congress made. You're gonna get a million dollars
for twenty twenty five, and now they've only received four
hundred thousand of that, and there's the other six hundred
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grand ain't coming now. So we already budgeted for the
year based off what y'all told. So I get that
that you're upset about it, but I think that the
the bigger debate needs to be why do you exist?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
But why are you here? What are you providing us with?
A will they going to listen? This entire article is
here to show you why they exist. Kelly, the poetry
festival we're at, you're going to get fifteen grand to
restore or to help redesign. I love this word. Redesign.
An eighteen twenties kitchen and the Robert Mills house here
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in the Capital City.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Now, it's not the Robert Mills house, right, this is
some other Robert Mills guy. Because Robert Mills, like you know,
the historic place. He's an architect, so he would have
built it right the first time.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
And you don't want to redesign anything if you're going
to keep it historically accurate.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
That's why this is so freaking funny.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
So maybe this is some other Robert Mills house that
they're talking about there.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I know common name Mills.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
There's probably a couple of the maram Maybe they're just.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Getting the kitchen redone it. I don't know how he
got some grant money. Maybe he's gonna go read for
the veterans, and this was instead of cash, they just
redid his kitchen. I'm pretty damn sure this is fifteen
thousand dollars to help redesign an eighteen twenties kitchen in
the Robert Mills house. The architect, the architect, the guy,
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the famous South Carolinian.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yes, they're gonna go see that house and we're gonna
redesign it.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
We're gonna put in a microwave and a garbage disposal.
We might for fifteen grand, you might get indoor plumbing
on that one.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Can we get some cool lighting in there?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Oh yes, I'm ay track lighting. Oh he would have
loved that. Robert Mills is rolling over in his damn grave,
You sons of bitches. I didn't do it right the
first time. Is that what you're telling me? He made
at his counsel. He made at his council. Grant's help,
Historic Colbia pay for a wide range of things like
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walking tours in some of the cities oldest neighborhoods. See,
this is the thing, Kelly, In the oldest neighborhoods, nobody walked,
so we have to we have to do walking tours.
I'm thinking about Robert Hills right spaces with sidewalks so
people can walk in those areas.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I'm wondering if if at some point the Humanitarian Council
or whatever, if they want to go redo the Washington Monument,
which he designed as well. We got to redesign that.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
That's that.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
He didn't get that one quite right either. We're cleaning
up the mess that Robert Mills left behind.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Great tear the damn thing down and put it out
in the pasture over there with blue sky's fire eyes.
Oh my god. Oh oh wait, there's more. But wait,
there's more. This article just keeps giving and frigging giving.
Brooks says, without federal help Historic Columbia, with the pivot
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to more of a private fundraising effort, I have no
problem with that. Look, raise all the money you want,
and there are a lot of people who get into it.
I got it. We got plenty of money around here
from people who want to make sure these places are
in fact held to their own and even apply for
state money for Pete's sake. I know the state of
South Carolina funds something from Historic Saluted County Council for
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one of the oldest theaters in the southeast, right there
in Saluta, South Carolina. Now I'm just reading this, I
can't believe they actually redid the neon that featured Indians
a chiefs Indians headgear with a face. That seems disrespectful,
but it was at the time appropriate. I'm assuming Humanities
Council grants have helped Historic Columbia pay for a range
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of work from historic walking tours to a project documenting
LGBTQ history. Now, why does Columbia need a project documenting
LGBTQ history?
Speaker 4 (18:57):
What does that even mean? And where's the IAA A
good question? Why were they left out?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
How about the Charlie's Place, Let's see. One of the
more beloved projects assisted by the Humanities Council was a
twenty eighteen documentary called Charlie's Place was Place. It was
a documentary produced by South Carolina TV. It told the
story of Black Knight Club. Yeah Yeah, Charlie, Yeah, Myrtle
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Beach were Dizzy Gillespie, Duke Ellington, Billie Holliday and other
greats of their era played. Now that's cool.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Well, I mean it's documented because the Ku Klux Klan
beat the hell out of that guy. Otherwise nobody would
give a rip.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Now, and certainly ETV is not going to produce it.
Lest his way to put a racial spin on it,
for God's sake.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Basically, the Democrat Party marched into Charlie's.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Place, including Gillespie and a horn, so.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
They got another seven thousand dollars to put that. Now again,
this is they put that up as one of their
most this is one of our biggest successes. For seven
thousand dollars, we made a movie or a documentary or
whatever on this event that happened in the nineteen fifties.
And okay, seven thousand dollars not nowhere near as much
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as what you had for what was it? Story time
for the vets? And I mean, I mean, why was that?
And this is the best you got? Because they asked them,
what is the best you got? Well, one of our
most but left projects was the Charlie's Place thing. When
did you do that eight years ago? You got nothing
from last year, the year before. Have you just been
striking out for eight years?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
But wait, there's more another popular project as a traveling
show about different food festivals. I said, food festivals. This
is important. It's a show and it's a festival about
food festival. Yes, so we're not having a food festival. No,
it's a show about food festivals created by the South
Carolina State Museum. Now here's the quota. Wanted you hear
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almost any topic you can think of. This part of
the South Carolina story, and that's important to me gets
told in a lot of these programs that we do,
said the spokesperson. Okay, mister Akers says, quote, this is
not stuffy stuff. Oh let me read that again. This
is not stuffy stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
He's he's reaching out to the rednecks from the South
Carolina State Museum and he's saying that we've got we
understand you stuff stuffy stuff. Do you think he's like
the games that used that used to play up in Saluta,
like melting army men on your peeps.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
There should be a documentary about that.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I mean, that's part of the South Carolina story.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Snake killing in the country. I was, I was upset
that wild world of sports did not come and cover me.
I wrote him a letter. You want to talk about.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Sports, we need a documentary on it.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
You go out and waste deep water only with a
shotgun or a rifle and kill water moccasins. Now that
is dangerous business. I thought I should have been featured.
South Carolina Humanities gave out almost two hundred thousand dollars
before does shut off access to the federal grants. That
money included fifteen thousand to help disability rights nonprofit able
South Carolina tell the stories of people who were treated
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at the South Carolina State Hospital, a psychiatric facility formerly
in the heart of what is now known as the
Ball Street District.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
We're spending another fifteen grand this year to tell that
story again again.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Everybody knows what happened to Ball Street. Okay, there were
some good. There was a lot of bad. There were
some experiments going on that Kelly would say would have
been a perfect place me to show up with a
whole cart and the peeps.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
But we tried to capitalize on this and by instead
of calling them the fireflies, we were gonna call them
the what was the name? We came up with it
at the Carolina Crazies or something like that, the Columbia Crazies.
We're gonna play Crazy Train and we're gonna have the
electric spark shooting whenever they hit a home run.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
But I still think we should have called it the Benjamins.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Well in honor of the Bear the but you know,
I mean, I literally interviewed a guy I want to
say six seven years ago who wrote a book. Now,
he wasn't funded by anybody. He did a deep dive
on the South Carolina Mental Hospital or whatever we call
it back then in Bull Street. I think the name
of the book is Bull Street. And he's got all
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he's got the old photos in there from like the
early nineteen hundreds, and he's got some of the interviews
with some of the people or maybe I guess it
would probably be the children of the people who survived
or didn't survive or whatever. I saw a documentary on this.
Why do we have to spend fifteen thousand dollars of
US taxpayer money right now in twenty twenty five, at
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thirty six and a half trillion dollars in debt. You
have to cut somewhere. And we didn't cut that. We
did not cut that. We already spent that money. That's right,
what the flip? I want that back?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Can we come up with a way to go fund
me that we not tell the Bull Street story anymore?
Can we? That's not a point of pride.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Why do we need sixty two hundred dollars for a
Juneteenth festival at Charleston's Magnolia Plantation? Why do we have
to pay for that? Is the again? Where are you
going to cut the budget? If you can't cut out
the Juneteenth festival at the Magnolia Plantation?
Speaker 3 (24:15):
If it were Juneteenth in Texas, Okay, I might get it.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
I just don't know why we're paying for celebrations. I
don't know why we're paying for poetry festivals. I don't
know why we're paying for music classes for women prisoners.
I don't know why we're paying for any of it.
Why are we redoing Robert Mills House? Why are we
doing any of these things? If you've got to cut budget,
you're at thirty six and a half trillion dollars in debt. Maybe,
my god, people wake up. We're losing this country again.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
We might as well just bring down the flags off
of the dome, fold them up, put them away. Elon
Musk is going to wipe away iy history. And we
know why people wipe away history. Belly, We have to books.
What did Hitler do? Oh my gosh, are we selling
the books? Are we getting rid of the book? Are
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we just building a higher state that that whole casino
on ninety five and now the entire that's going to
be a casino. Myrtle Beach will continue to grow with
hotels and the rest of the entire state. One huge
Trump golf course. That's the plan with that, and take
down to Peach and put up a damn profile of
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Elon Musk. There you go, Trump Land. I thought it
was gonna be Trump's button. We all had a kiss,
and look at this. We've run out of time and
we didn't get to talk about Tiss James. That is
that was my favorite story maybe of the year. We've
got to break this down. The things we're gonna do
for tomorrow, We're gonna break down Tiss James. Charges included
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the marriage of her to her father. God, that's class.
That seems illegal, ask Omar. Then we're going to talk.
We're gonna break down the Joe Biden speech. Then I
want to go back and do a couple of things.
I want to I want to print out the transcript
after the Bezos capsule landed from the comments of every
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all the female historic female astronauts.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Well, Gil King gave an interview last night. That's not
sitting over with a lot of people. She's she's saying
you're sexist if you don't refer to them as astronauts.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
And we're going to break that down as well. Tomorrow's
Tomorrow could be one of my favorite podcasts of all time.
Get ready for it.