04 19 25 The Jonathon and Kelly Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan rush So, I asked the Vice President if I
could meet with mister Abrego Garcia Kelly Nash. He said
he was not able to make that happen. He said
maybe if the American Embassy were to ask the Jonathan.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
And Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
And that's how we started the week, because often Saturday's
program is kind of a chronological visit to a lot
of the podcasts we put up Bendy three Thursday.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
I feel like for Senator Chris He's sorry, Chris Moose
out front should have told you El Salvador president's closed
right now.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm hearing many people say he's going to use this
this is the launch for his presidential run for twenty
twenty eight. And my first question was for which country he's.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Going to give my Bucali a run for his money
down here in El Salvador.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Maybe. So we will talk more about that coming up
in segment three and swamp talk. Although you know we're
going to start with some state news, in particular with
a interview from our lieutenant governor. We did not ask
her about this because we recorded that interview earlier in
the week, but I guess maybe the South Carolina General
Assembly is going to follow with the footsteps because they're
now going to launch their deportation of Curtis Loft.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Oh, we're going to impeach in deport We won't even
have news on that until after a Monday.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
We're gonna deal with what's going on this weekend, this
high holy weekend, Happy Easter. By the way, this is
Jonathan Rush's Kelly Nash, Good morning. On this program. We
had an opportunity to speak with our HUD Secretary Scott Turner.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, he was in Charleston this weekend and we talked
to him about his visit to and I was surprised
at some of the homeless stats that we've got for
South Carolina. It's rapidly growing around here.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
We're going to play back that portions of that interview
coming up in segment four. In segment two, the tragedy
of the humanity is now suffering under the Doze effort.
But we start with a and this has been heavily
edited only because of the time restraints of this program.
With the conversation we had our Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evatt.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Hey, good morning, Good morning, my friends.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Let's talk about some state business. And I know one
of the things Kelly Network talking about today was we
apparently have a compromise. Do you think this will hold
up the scrutiny from the South Caroline Supreme Court. We're
able to say the compromise bete in the House and
the Senate for the school voucher plan.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
I believe it will. I was actually getting briefed on
it yesterday. I'm not going to rest until we have
one hundred percent school choice with no caps, no limits.
They're doing this in Texas. I was actually talking with
a very profound gentleman in the educational field yesterday, very
tied to Ben Navarro and Meeting Street and everything that

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they're doing collectively for education. And we have got to
re engage parents. Parents are the critical ingredient and the
secret sauce of success for our kids. And when you
put power back into the hands of parents, I think
you're going to re engage them. Because I listened to
a lot of podcasts on education Talk with Ellen Weaver.

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I travel around the state. I love to read to kids,
and every teacher will tell you the kids that do
the best have parent involvement. You know, not every parent
it's to stay home. But any kind of parent involvement
creates success for a child in the educational world, whether
that's just making sure their homework's done, making sure they
don't miss school. People are shocked. We have a truancy

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epidemic like we've never seen. And if we can't get
our kids in the classroom, how do we expect them
to be successful? So parent involvement is key and critical
to improving every educational system. So a long way to say,
I'm very hopeful that this is going to meet the
threshold for the Supreme Court. It is a step in

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the right direction, but we cannot stop right there.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
As I read this in the Post and Courier, the
South Carolina Constitution expressly prohibits public dollars from going to
private or parochial schools, a limitation conservatives have long railed
against as biased towards lower income students seeking alternatives to
the state's public school system. They say, even though they
have a new plan, some fear it will not pass

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in the Supreme Court. Here, why not rewrite the constitution,
put an amendment into it, change it.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Anytime you change the constitution, ask to go back to
the voters. We saw that with the lieutenant governor's position,
but I think we are right for that. I go
very few places where I get pushed back on school choice.
If I'm getting pushed back, it's usually from Democrats.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Tell me your democrat without telling me your democrat. I
hate school choice.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
I hate school choice. Let's bring murders and rapists back
to our country after we rounded them up and departed them.
Let's bring biological males into women's sports, because we think
that's fair and that helps young girls. But I think
we would be okay if we put this on the ballot.
I think you'd probably see some turnout at the ballot
box because we have got to get people in this

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state energized. People think they've done their job. They voted
for President Trump. He's in office. So now the laziness like, okay,
turn off the news. We're gonna let everything work itself out.
That's not how this works. You've got to to stay
on top of what's going on. You've got to look
at issues that are going to be on the ballot,
and you have got to make sure you come out
for the midterms. And it's the primary. Less than thirteen

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percent of South Carolinians voted in the primary last June.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Probably half of them listening to WVOC.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yes, I am sure the percentage is very high because
you guys are doing your job. But when you have
those kind of low numbers, all kinds of things can happen.
So you're letting thirteen percent make the decisions for the
collective holes.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Certainly, the three of us have talked about this before,
but I thought that him and McMaster probably could go
now as one of the greatest governors in the state
of South Carolina. I think get school choice, if you
could bring the tax right down, and if you could
fill a damn pothole. Sally hit a pothole yesterday while
I was diverted not watching out, because you really have
to have somebody riding shotgun just to look for the
damn potholes. Every time a voter hits a pothole, I

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think they curse.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Okay, I was with SCDOT, I was with Justin Powell
a few weeks ago, and every time I'm with them,
I'm like Dustin, I keep hearing about potholes. There is
now an app on scdot's website that when you come
across a pothole, you give the location and they will
come out and fill it.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Really, I like that.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
How long is that going to take before they come out?

Speaker 5 (06:12):
He says that they have an entire crew on this.
We'll do our own little experiment. You identify the pothole, okay,
and I will go back to the director and say, hey,
my friends, I gave them your advice. They did this,
and this is how long it took. I told him,
I said, you know, I see a lot of work
going on. I see you know, I see cones going down,
I see cones coming back up. I said, but it's
the potholes I keep hearing about. And he said, tell

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everybody to go on our website, pull up our app,
report it and we'll get it filled. We have crews
set aside to do that.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Ptend the Governor, thank you for your time. Thank you
for using your availability and your position to help CEOs
feel more comfortable and enticing them. Becomes South Carolina to
create more jobs here as you host and continue to
host your events around the heritage.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Guys, thank you so much for having me on every
month and in the state, and I hope to you
you and your listeners a very blessed and Happy Easter.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Okay, again, we had to heavily edit that you can
hear the entire interview. We talked about a lot of
things fiction, the General Assembly, and problems in our state
and some things I thought were going to be problems.
I want to get our thoughts on some problems that
are coming I think down the tracks. But you can
hear all that in our podcast and you know where
to find it. Okay, Still you had to come here.
The humanities are taking it on the chin, Kelly and

(07:24):
Elon Musk is the blame and we're all losing out now, Okay,
that tragedy will unfold. All of that coming up in segments.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan ross c.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
I hires in the Trump administration like Pete Hegseth so
called Secretary of Defense, dumb ethn individuals Kelly Nash if
their whole strategy minute long videos on TikTok to call
us names. That's why they lost in a historic fashion
to President Trump last time Jonathan.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
And Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well, yeah, Keem seems to be struggling to find his
voice in between the sea of audio coming out of AOC.
Bernie Sanders and Jasmin Crockett.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
I don't think that he's having like RFK voice issues.
I think that that voice is like his interpretation of
what emotion look sound like. And that's but he does
come off of Catherine Hepburn with his rattling around in there.
I hate Hag Saith. There's a dumb effen and to

(08:24):
bed Joe out.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
So called secretary of Defense. We can get into all
of our secretaries and all those problems coming up here.
In segment three, headline in this week's paper, Dose slashed
humanity's funding. What gets cut in South Carolina? Then it
gives you a list. This is when you really start
to realize this is going to be painful.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Oh, they're not just cutting Washington.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
We cut fifteen thousand dollars that was slated to be
spent or research black South Carolinians who fought in the
Revolutionary War.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Now, what kind of research could we possibly be doing.
We're not talking to anyone who knew them. We're not
talking to anyone who knew their grandkids or anything. I mean,
the only research you could be doing is reading the
books that have already been written about these people, that
were written one hundred years ago.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I don't know, maybe there's some unpublished books, like in Camden,
South Carolina's oldest in the city, certainly a lot of
historical places to visit there. Maybe there are some writings
there that we have not compiled for South Carolina to
truly appreciate.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Okay, the revolution, So you want the fifteen thousand dollars back,
I'm saying, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Should I feel pained over it?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'm not into the poetry festival in rock Hill. We
lost twenty three hundred dollars for that.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
I look through all of these cuts that we're about
to hear through the prism of we are broke. So
the gas lighting that the liberals love to play is
they always say, in the world's richest country or the
most economically prosperous country in the history of the world,

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we can't come up with fifteen ten thousand dollars to
research the proud black South Carolinians who fought for this
nation's independence.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
You wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
You wouldn't as the richest nation on earth. We are
not the richest nation on earth. We are actually the
largest debtor on Earth. Thirty six and a half trillion
dollars about to be thirty seven trillion dollars, which means
the country is sliding into the oblivion. You have to
save the country by saving some money right now. And

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if you attack it with that urgency, all of this
is frivolous.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
We have not enough money collectively to buy a stick
of Chinese gum filled with microplastics even before the terrorists
went in, let alone be able to buy a stick
of gum today. So you're right. I don't know where
we but Kelly, look a lot of this money that
was spent. For instance, there was a documentary called Charlie's

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Place produced by South Carolina ETV. It told the story
of a black nightclub, Myrtle Beech, Disney Gillespie, Duke Kellington,
Billy Holiday, a lot of the great so we all
love and appreciate. So now we had to have money
to produce that otherwise you're going to be a lot
of South Carolina's history is told right there in that
documentary having to do with that one particular location. And
you know, in South Carolina we love our history.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
So and that was paid for during the Trump administration,
first Trump administration twenty eighteen, they did that, So I
mean that's great that they had that.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Oh there's another popular project. It's a traveling show about
different food festivals held around our state, created along with
the South Carolina State Museum. Again Kelly with the history.
Here's a quote. Almost any topic you can think of
as part of life in South Carolina, the story gets
told in a lot of these programs. And he said,
the quote goes on, it's my favorite part. This is
not stuffy stuff.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
No, I get the part. You know that NPR and
PBS and the government wants you to have fun, and
it's not just for the very elite to grasp all
this and these are I'm not pointing at any of
these projects and saying they're bad. Well I will point
it a lot of the US AID projects and say

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they were actually bad, not just a poor spending of
the money. They were actually going against humanity. But you know,
like we're going to try to like right here in
South Carolina, we were attempting to make monkeys become transgendered.
That is bad, That is a crime against humanity. We
should we should all be repenting over this Easter holiday

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that we live in a state in a country that
was trying to do that. But this stuff here. This
is all fun. And if you know somebody who's rich
and they do some crazy things with their money, they did,
you know, I like, you know, I just wanted to
clam chowder, So I flew to Boston and got a
couple of clam chowder wasteful. Hell yeah, can they afford it?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Who cares? We can't afford anything right now. We're trying
to figure out how to save the nation. And I
don't think that the alarms are blaring loud enough in
this country about the problems that we have financially when
you look at what's going on with China. Yes, it
always gets back to China. China has bought up hundred,

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well actually millions of acres of farmland in America. And
the fact that it happens to be near military bases,
and that may or may not be coincidental, But the
fact that.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
They think it's just because the land is cheaper is
kind of like buying a house near the airport because
the military bases have all the aircraft lying in and out,
lot of noise, pollution.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
I'm going to take it at face value and say
I don't they're not doing it for military advantage. They're doing,
but the fact that they are now going to be
in possession of our food is horrific. Never mind the
fact that they now have easy access to launch stuff
at airplanes. This is a horrible situation that we find
ourselves in now. When people are talking about the tariffs

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and the upsetting of the whole apple cart and stuff,
it's because we need to save the country we are.
And so when Doge comes in and tells you that,
you know, I'm trying to look at some of the
other stupid things that they mentioned in here that I'm
supposed to feel bad about, like the we're gonna lose
women's prisons music classes. I don't have a problem with
the women in prison learning how to play a clarinet.

(14:21):
I really don't, or a guitar or whatever if some
volunteer wants to go teach them.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Great.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
The veterans are no longer going to have story time.
I don't know who is paying all this money for
people to go read stories to the veterans.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well, and it's maybe it's that we don't have enough
information just given this list that was printed in the newspaper,
maybe there's other information we should know. Because I can
tell you right now, I'm not saying the veterans don't
have it, shouldn't have an opportunity to hear story time
if that's something that's really important to them. Maybe we
learned that from the Veterans Association. I'm not sure, but
typically if you get a bunch of veterans together, you

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don't need anybody for story time because they'll sit there
and tell you all kind of stories. Yeah. This is
why when they're very proud to have served our country,
they'll share their own stories. Maybe we just don't have
enough information in this article be a but truly appreciate,
or we would be grieving the fact that we lost
all this money under a docheffer from the federal government
doing the clawback, as they called it, from one hundred

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and seventy five million from a budget of just over
two hundred million.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
You need to make drastic changes quickly. It's a course correction.
It's not going to be pretty, because again, I just
don't think that most Americans recognize the danger that we're in.
And until somebody with a lot bigger voice than you
and I starts screaming about it, I think Elon is
trying to scream about it. But he's not a very

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I mean, you know, he's just it's really bad, and
you know, we're spending more than we are on our
military defense right now for just to finance the debt,
and it's unsustainable and we're about to fall off a cliff.
But he says it that way. Something he needs to say.
We are about to go over a cliff. We're about
to We are currently the world's currency. Everything is measured

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against the dollar. Thankfully that is about to change, right
because we are so unstable financially.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Well, we're so far away from helping Americans. I think
understand that the tragedy of thirty six trillion dollars in
debt nationally, when it's constantly being misrepresented in the news
that Elon Musk is going to take your Medicare, your Medicaid,
your Social Security check out of your mailbox, because that
is not at all what the agenda was ever meant
to be, was ever stated to be, will ever be

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according to the current administration. But if you watch America's
most watched news programs except for CBS Evening News, they
fell off the cliff. If you watch ABC or NBC
at six point thirty You're never going to hear that.
You're just going to hear that Elon Musk is taking
your grandmother's Social Security check away from her, and you're
not going to get any more Medicaid and not going

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to get any more Medicare expenditures because he says we
can't afford it. He's going to put it in his
own pocket. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I mean, if anybody with a brain would realize that
what Elon Musk is trying to do is make sure
that there is money for Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security,
because I know it's supposed to be in a lot box,
but it's not. It's in the open and the and
the current crop of politicians for the last fifty years
have been raiding your Social Security, your Medicaid, your Medicare.

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It's all gone. There is no money there it We're broke.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Didn't you hear Joe Biden the other day making a
joke at the Beat the fact that all that is
horse maneuver, right before he dropped his ice cream cone
on the floor and had to shuffle out the door.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I mean, I let me. I don't know if this helps.
We take in about four point nine trillion dollars a
year in taxes. We're thirty six and a half trillion
dollars in debt. Does that I mean if you brought
in fifty thousand dollars a year annually, but you owed
thirty six million, or it'd be about thirty six million dollars.

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You're baking fifty grand a year, you owe thirty six million.
Do you think you need a course correction?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Joe Biden says no. He says, oh, that's a lie.
Tell you what. We'll pick up with that in just
a second. Here South Carolina, we were following the and
the other states are facing the same cuts. So we're
following and hopefully we'll get more information about how value
some of those classes or because if they're truly that valuable,
then the state of South Carolina should be able to
provide this four hour citizens because this is as it

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was plainly demonstrated with the ETV storytelling. This is about
South Carolina. We should be doing our own history studies
and documentaring our own history. Do we have to have
the federal government come down here and give us money?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Do I really need a show about what is it?

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Food trucks?

Speaker 4 (18:45):
I mean, why would I need a show about food
fares or whatever. Why wouldn't I just give me a
food fair, then I don't need a show about it.
Give me the food.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Pretty sure you can find one today. You can certainly
find a food truck today in Charleston because they got
their anti truck rally going on. Oh we'll talk about
that coming up in the minds as well.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Jonathan Rush, her body was blanketed in bruises, she was strangled,
that she was raped, and that she was stuffed into
a drain pipe.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Kelly Nash, I think it's important that we go to
El Salvador to show his family that we're not giving
up the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
I know it seems like every week there are so
many moments that are being quoted or broadcast. There were quotes,
but those two, for me, crystallize the moment of the
week when you had in one hand the Republican Party
proving to be the party of law and order, the
Democrats with Senator Holland, proven to be the party of
criminal justice. They want more justice for criminals. We're not

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concerned about the family of your own constituency, Senator, but
you are going to go all the way to El
Salvador to fight for a Maryland dad.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
The interesting thing to me, Jonathan is not only that,
but at the same time Van Holland and the entire
Democrat Party sat on their hand while Donald Trump brings
up a child who's beaten brain cancer and is getting
an honor. They would not clap for a child who
had brain cancer and is still battling it. They would

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not give him that honor. But they will all rally
around this guy. And if you want to take off again,
remove the MS thirteen because people keep saying it's alleged. Now,
it's alleged by MS thirteen gang members, it's alleged by
the police, it's alleged by two judges. It's alleged by
the El sald El Salvador government, it's alleged by everybody.

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You don't believe him. He's not an MS thirteen gang member.
He's never been arrested for gang activities, per se. Okay,
I'll let that go. He is being deported. Your only
complaint is he wasn't supposed to go to El Salvador. So,
like they said, do you want us to fly him home?
Get him out of his home country, bring him back
to America, and then deport him to another country because

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he ain't saying in America no.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
And Tom Holman described that the other morning on Morning Joe.
For the life of me, I don't know how Joe
Scarborough survives and keeps his job. After that interview, he
continually tried to land a punch and every time he
brought up an objection that was plainly described to him
by Homan, who claims he says openly, I'm not an attorney,
but these are the reasons why we are proceeding like
we are. So, in fact, if you do bring him back,

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which Joel Salvador says, he's not leaving, it's their citizen. Yeah,
he's not coming back. But if he did come back,
even if he wasn't associated with MS Third, even if
because he can't make the threat that the gang in
Venezuela is going to kill him, because that gang no
longer exists. So there's absolutely, as Tom Holman pointed out,

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the facts of this have changed along the way. So
you can point to a previous ruling by a court
and that due process would be provided for him, but
now it doesn't have to be because the facts have changed.
As he pointed out, he's now a member of a
terrorist organization, so that does not put it back in
the court's process.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
It's really unbelievable how the Democrats continue to fall in
love with the worst people in the world. I mean,
I really don't understand it. I mean, we got a
guy from I think he's from New York. Eden Alexander
is his name. Eden Alexander is an American citizen who

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has been kidnapped by a terrorist organization known as HAMAS.
He has been held hostage for five hundred plus days.
Did Chris van Holland or any Democrat did they even
do a tweet about it. They've done nothing about American
citizens that are being held out and he's not the

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only one. I mean, We've got what five US citizens
that were kidnapped by HAMAS. Nobody seems to give a
crap about that. You got one guy who went from
Baltimore or wherever he lives in DC area, Baltimore, DC whatever,
back to his home, his own land he lives, and
he's from El Salvador. His parents still live in El Salvador,

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that is where he is from. It's like trying to
say to the United States, if what we said was
a criminal in the United States, if he went to
Mexico and we want to get him back, and we
get him back and we put him into one of
our prisons, some legislator from Mexico coming to wherever, coming
over here to one of our prisons, going you better

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release that guy. We want him back in Mexico. He's
our citizen. He violated our law. That's what El Salvador
is saying. He violated our law. It doesn't matter what
he did in your country. He's our citizen who violated
El Saldorvian law. He flew to America, his parents flew
him there to escape justice, and he's been hiding in
America for decades now.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
It really defies description why there are insisting, and there
are plenty of opportunities. There are plenty off ramps to
get off of this particular band if they wanted to,
particularly as it unfolded the other day tragically at FSU,
because you had a guy who who has made some unbelievable,
outrageous white supremacist posts and make comments even to his

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friends and the like. So you got this guy that
plays into the narrative they would previously trying to use
that Trump's a fascist, white supremacist Hitler recreation. You got
a guy in the news that you can use. And
MSNBC is not even touching that story because they're going
to stick with Van Holland and all of the Democrats
who say that if you do not stand up for

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this Maryland Dad, there will be no one here to
stand up for you. So they want you to believe
that Donald Trump is going to deport all Americans to
El Salvador, because we're already paying for the freight for you.
He's got a prison still waiting for you. It's nearly
like an Easter weekend. There's a mansion that I have
for you. If it were not true, I would not
have told you. So he's got a room for you

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and a prison in El Salvador. And if we do
not stand up for this Maryland Dad, you might as
well go ahead and pack your bags because you're going
to go to the same prison as well. Well.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, the FSU thing, that's a very odd development when
you see it on playing out on social media, because
both sides of the far left and the far right
are trying to pin that guy to them, sure you know,
and so they're going through his social media pages. I
think that when you look at somebody who does something

(25:23):
this insane, whatever it is, whether it's the far left
of the far right, I know it's it's it's tempting
to say it's because Bernie Sanders says outrageous things, that
the left does outrageous things or whatever. I just some
people are mental. They're just mental patients. And this guy's
a mental patient. And whether he identified with Trump or

(25:47):
if he identified with AOC or whoever, because they got
posts on both sides. It appears from this guy where
he's mocking transgendered people, then he talks about trying to
become a transgendered person himself. I don't know what the
hell was going on with this guy.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I hate to quote young Frankenstan, but you're talking about
the nonsensical ravings of a learna take mind. Yes, how
are you possibly going to ever attach that to anybody
or any party in particular? Is all falling upon the
problems that we see unfold and have been unfolding for
a long time. We have got a serious problem in
not being able to bridge the gap for persons who
desperately need help, and mental associated problems are just continuing

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to plague our country in more ways than one, and
that one's certainly probably just going to end up being
categorized as such.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
But I will I will say that most of the
nut jobs do appear to be on the left, Okay,
just to get that out there. But I also say
that the mainstream media, for example, CNN last night a
prime example of them lying to the American public. They
acted as if they had a Florida State student, just
a random Florida State student popped.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
On the show.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Hey, listen, you were there, you were part of this
love to get your take on it. Well, the kids
sounded like AOC with a little more base in his voice. Well,
then if you look up the kid, he is the
head of the Florida nash or the Florida Democrat tem Association.
His LinkedIn profile talks about he is the biggest fundraiser

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in Democrat history for somebody under the age of twenty.
He personally raised one point four million dollars for the
twenty twenty four election. The kids sold out completely for
the Democrat Party. Why would you not put his title
head of the Florida Florida State University Democrat Party. Why
would you not put that on that you act as

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if he's Then you take Donald Trump little white House
thing where he goes on and on about this is heartbreaking.
I know Florida State very well, I know Tahassee very well.
Blah blah blah blah, and it's so sad to see
things like this happen that is then transposed into Donald
Trump says things like this happen. That was the headline
on a lot of left leaning what you had what's
his name, Sheldon Whitehouse. No, it doesn't just happen like

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Donald Trump. You had several Congress members saying Donald Trump
needs to understand things like this just don't happen. It's
because of his rhetoric that this leeds. I mean, it's
insane the way they run with these lies.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
And the amazing thing to me is that because I
looked at the begin this week or I saw it somewhere,
it was posted that CBS, although they have the worst
evening news, the sixty minute CBS Show is one of
the most watch shows in America. Really, yes, I mean
they're tapping on like ten million viewers. What, yes, it
is off the chart.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Huge.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
What's the secret sauce for them?

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Apparently it's bulk, but Americans love it. They're lapping it up. Okay, So,
by the way, I know that we pre record this
program on Friday for Saturday broadcast. That means Kelly would
have had plenty of time to get in his car
and get down to Charleston. I don't know if I
don't know if Bernie Sanders or AOC or Jasmine Crockett
will be speaking at the Anti Trump rally rally and

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Charleston today, and I'm not sure if which speaker they have.
I know that they wanted to hold the anti Trump
rally there, what was it two weekends ago or maybe
it was last weekend, but they did not have the permit. Well,
they got the permit this time, so they're hosting it.
I guess next weekend it'll be in Greenville. Okay. The
Anti Trump rallies has a whole list of it's like
two hundred cities hosting anti Trump rallies.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Huge.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
So I know that Bernie Sanders will be trekking back
and forth because he ran up a pretty hefty airline
bill last week on its private jet, flying around like
an oligarch to make sure he got as many appearances
in as possible as he brought in his daughter, well,
not really his daughter, he referenced to her as such.
So that's how proud he is of her. Now, speaking
of strange family relations, you want to talk about Tis James.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Well, Tiss James, I'm going with it. It was a clerical
error that she's not actually married to her father, and
that she meant to put five not four. That's an
interesting thing in New York law, So if you have
four or less apartments in the building, that can be
considered a residential dwelling.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
I didn't know. I don't even know why that law
was ever created. I've certainly never heard of that before,
and lived in New York City, so I wouldn't know that,
never lived in the state.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
But if you go to five or more, then it's
a different tax code, everything's more expensive. So she's living
in a five that she owns, but she listed it
as four. So we're just going to give her the
benefit of the doallons that was a clerical error. She
didn't see that she signed her name to it. I
think what she's actually going to claim on that one

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is that they knocked down the wall of one of
those apartments and turned it into a four instead of
a five. And they're probably working on that right now.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
And what about the primary residence, because she has a
primary residence, it's not the state of New York.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
What I heard her say initially on Thursday evening was
something to the extent of, that's a misinterpretation of what
I signed. I co signed for my niece to have
that as her primary residendence, and she couldn't get the
loan without me, and so that's how that happened. That's

(31:06):
that's going to be her excuse. Although it does say
it's your primary residence. You are the main one receiving
the money, not her, And she signed that, and she
signed it, which is again by her standard, fraud, and
by her standard, she should lose. Because you can't have
your primary residence in Virginia and be the New York

(31:28):
Attorney General. That's either you've lied to the people of
New York because you can't hold office, or you've lied
to the people of Virginia because you can't be the
New York Attorney General and live in Virginia.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
So somewhere, because it can't be your primary residence.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah, and then what about what do you say about
the quad that turned into a sinko? That guy that
saved you roughly eight thousand dollars a year in Texas.
It seems like you got fraud all written all over you.
And the fact that you actually charged Donald Trump with
this exact same thing while you yourself seem to be

(32:04):
engaged in it. The irony is fantastic, but the repercussions
could be very real for her. She could lose her office.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
They very well could be. I can't wait to see
how this continues to unfold as she continues to explain
yet more documentation that's could have come out that would
damn her forever. I hold to say, we got to
get to a conversation we had earlier this week with
our HUD secretary. He was in South Carolina given a
little tour Charleston with Senator Tim Scott. We'll speak with
him about their efforts next.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Jonathan Rush she was here illegally with deportation orders in
twenty nineteen. What part of that do not understand?

Speaker 3 (32:41):
I understand the story very well, and I'm going to
stop going back and forth with you.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
On this, Kelly Nash, No, I will not let you
go forward.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
He was an illegal alien in this country with a
deportation order in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show w DOOC.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Kelly Nash, Welcome on the phone, the honorable Scott Turner.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
Hey, good morning, Good morning, sir. Thanks for having me well, thank.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
You for serving our country first and foremost as HUD Secretary.
And though you got a little trip down to Charleston.
And by the way, did you notice when you're in
what we call Chuck Town, people might refer to you
as that's Tim Scott's friend, Scott. Suddenly you're just one
of the guys on the street. Because Tim Scott has
that kind of feel when he comes home and people
are all excited about seeing him, but they're also excited
about some of the things that he's been doing, and

(33:27):
certainly you've been helping in that regard as well. We
had a.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
Wonderful trip, but I want to thank Senator Tim Scott.
We felt very welcome, saw a lot of businesses, the
historic aspect of South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
We're talking with the HUD Secretary, Scott Turner. Let me
ask you a question, is it really as bad as
it seems, Because according to the stats you sent down here,
South Carolina has a fifteen percent increase in homelessness over
the past five years, and the city of Charleston has
now got a thirty five percent increase in homelessness. It
seems like we're running wild with homelessness here.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Well, you know, that's a great question that you raise.
The point in time report that was sent out in
December of last year. Point in time that was sent
out said we had over seven hundred and seventy thousand
people nationwide that were homeless on one single night in
January of twenty twenty four. That's an eighteen percent increase
in our country. And this is in spite of having

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record funded at hunt fifteen percent increase in homelessness, and
since twenty nineteen in South Carolina, then the thirty five
percent increase in homelessness, in particular in Charleston. With the
leadership there on the ground, in particular with one eighty
Place and what they're doing in creating public private partnerships,
they are attacking homelessness in a way that is very

(34:44):
encouraging to me. And yes, we have had an increase.
But I know that if these public private partnerships such
as one Ady Place, with leadership under Tim Scott and
the mayor and the local churches and faith based organizations,
that we can bring that number down drastically. With President
Trump and his leaderships, the business as usual was over,
and I know at HUND we are taking extreme inventory

(35:05):
and being very deliberate and detailed about all the dollars
in resources that go out of Hunt in particular as
it pertains to homelessone.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Charleston as a city has been doing an incredible amount
of focus on making sure they have affordable housing and
then certainly attacking the homeless problem as well. Other cities
in the state of South Carolina are face sacing not
as nearly as much, but a lot of the same challenges.
And one of the things that Senator Scott brought to
the table and during the first administration with President Trump
were the economic Opportunity zones.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
Senator Tim Scott was the architect and the leader of
the Opportunity's one legislation and in the first Trump administration,
I was blessed by the President to be appointed at
the executive director of the White House Opportunity of Revitalization Council,
which was the coordinate council that executed opportunities on legislation.
Opportunity zones from its inception have had over eighty billion

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dollars of private funding, private money coming in to cities
across our nation, urban, tribal and rule to build new
operating businesses, to build affordable, attainable and workforce housing. And
so we're very excited under Tim Scott's leadership, his partners
in Congress, the White House, and obviously our team at
HUD for the expansion and the continuation of opportunity zones

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as we attack this homelessness crisis in our country. Because
one million people who are lifted out of poverty in
opportuniti zones, that's a million people. That means families, people
that are on a different trajectory in their life, self sustainability,
and so opportunities zones are a great veh here when
I'm so glad you brought it up, and I hope
that your listeners will know that opportunity zones, the continuation

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of that would be transformative for our country.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
And our nation.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
HUD Secretary Scott Turner on the phone with us now.
One of the things that You've mentioned several times that
I've seen in press releases and stuff is it's not
just about getting a house built or a place for
people to go. That there's more to the homelessness crisis
than just the actual physical structures. And so what is
HUD doing to try to help with that homelessness?

Speaker 6 (37:05):
Putting people in a home and a safe place is
part of it. But as HUD, we're looking at homelessness
from a holistic standpoint. We have to look at the
mental illness, we have to look at the addiction, we
have to look at you know, where are people when
it comes to being separated and broken from their families?
Where are people as it pertains to their spiritual life
and having a church family to surround them. And so

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we're working very hard to build public private partnerships with
the faith based institutions, with the nonprofit organizations on the ground,
how doing the work every single day. Historically, it's been
hard for faith based organizations to work with the government,
and so we are a great facilitator as the federal government,
we're a great convener. But the real work has been

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done in the private sector and the faith based industries
and entities that are doing the work on the ground,
and so we're being very intentional in forming those partnerships.
And as I mentioned before for a one eighty place
in Charleston which we just visited, as a great example
of public private partnerships as it pertain to eradicating and
attacking homelessness, homelessness for our veterans, for our families, for

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single mothers, for people that are on the streets for
whatever reason it is, but to help them from a
holistic standpoint.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
As the secretary for the US Department of Housing and
Urban Development, it's both and it's multi pronged, as you've
outlined for us, and we appreciate your reference and thank
you for getting us up a speed on what you're
doing to help here in South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Secretary Turner, before you leave, did you notice that Tim
Scott was sucking his gut in as he walked around
with him. I just happened to notice that on the video.
I didn't know if you noticed it as well, But no, Sarah.

Speaker 6 (38:45):
You know he's in great statement. He's been doing very good.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
His wife got him on the workout regime.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
Now, yeah, we encouraged one another and that.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
All the time, and I make sure I'm really comfortable
with you making a reference it's to wait or or
my tummy or Senator Senator Scott's tummy. Well, I wasn't
dalking about your way, just his.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
He did look like he lost some weight, but he
definitely was sucking in his gut.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Well, I am definitely gonna go tomorrow. Eat all afternoon.
You should. It's a big Easter get together weekend. Listen.
I'll you have a great weekend and enjoy your Easter Sunday.
We'll be back on Monday. Listen for the rash thoughts.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
It's over. I wish that all of you will come
back again next week. And you come back.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Next week, I'll be back same time next week. Well
show on Tyle.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
We'll be back next week to bring it to you.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Gotta come back next week