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April 30, 2025 • 26 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, what's the problem is that a radical left
lunatic all I get about. I'm sorry, ma'am. I thought
it was a guy Kelly Nash and she now has
to go home to a mother who's a big Trump fan.
Jonathan and Kelly Show WBOC.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Couldn't you hear the liberals screaming at their televisions last night?
And they tuned into Fox to watch that because you
couldn't see it on CNN.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
You think the liberals tuned into Fox?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Oh, they love to hate him. You have to watch it.
This is why MSc missed the MSBC missed the boat.
And I believe CNN actually had portions of it on
because I flipped over there. They had him on the
in the picture, the pip the picture in picture, okay,
but they have one of their talking heads talking over him.
I wanted to hear what he was saying, so I

(00:51):
went back over to Fox News to hear the rest
of it.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
He taught for ninety minutes last time, and it's gracious.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I mean, he loves it. He loves it. He's having
too much fun out here.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
He absolutely thrives off of it.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
And then he got what was it earlier in the
day that he had Gretchen.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Whitmere, Yes, yeah, Gretcham was there some kind of announcement.
I forgot what it was because I didn't really get
to see that part had to do with the ua W.
So it had something to do with an investment from
one of the companies in Detroit, where the best line
of the best line last night was something to the

(01:34):
effect of build Detroit instead of building Beijing. That was
the best line of the night for my money. Anyway,
there were a lot of things said last night, but
I could hear the Liberals just screaming at their televisions
as they were watching this, and anyway we can get
into some more of that. Did you watch it last night?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I listened on the radio. I was stuck in traffic
trying to get home for my dental appointment, so I
was kind of on the highway there for probably about
forty minutes. I listened to it, and I mean, just
he was just having a good time.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I was just having a good time. It's a lot
of the things you've heard before, I mean, and the
Democrats surprisingly when they were playing it back this morning
early with way too early for this alimittally, she was
playing some of the better lines of the night. I
thought she They took exception with them to do the
fact checkers.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I'm just I'm reading this thing on Twitter right now.
Robert de Niro's son has announced that he is now trans.
So and they've compiled.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
How old is Robert de Niro's son.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm gonna guess his son now daughter is probably thirty, Okay,
Robert de Niro sun turns trands, making that the latest
Hollywood celebrity to change gender. Others would include Jamie Lee Curtis,
Naomi Watts, Cynthia Nixon, Charlie's theren Cher, Gabrielle Union, Jennifer Lopez,
Ben affleck Sting, Rosie O'Donnell Sade Sigourney Weaver, and Marlon Wayne's.

(03:08):
All of them have kids that have turned trans. Well,
what the hell is going on?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I think shares son daughter originally Chastity. Yeah, I think
that's probably the most celebrated.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
That was early in the game too. That was back,
that was like ten fifteen years ago.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
That was he was he was trans before it was hip.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
And you know, it's there's something about liberal people. I
don't I is it the way they raise their kids
or is it the DNA in them? Is so boy,
that's a great question. I don't know what's going on,
but it's it's running a muck now with what we

(03:49):
used to talk about it like less than one tenth
of one percent of the population as trans yes, but
I put it at what three or four percent? Now,
I mean I'm seeing them at Walmart. I'm seeing them
all over the place.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
It's exploded. Yeah, you could buy the firefly's hat with
the rainbow.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, that would just be gay, right, that's not Oh sorry,
But I mean, has gay population increased or were still
at like whatever we were at, like four percent or whatever.
I don't know. It's a it's a it's an odd
phenomena that has exploded in popularity the last three or
four years. And I don't see it happening. And no,

(04:36):
not to say that it doesn't happen in conservative families.
Sure it does. It certainly has, but it just seems
far more prevalent in liberal households.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
All right, So anyway, we've got the one and first
date now is Rachel Maddle on tonight.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh to be honest, I've never watched, so I don't
know if she was on last night or.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Days And nothing to do with the fact they fired
a bunch of people at MSNBC and she was able
to stay on the year, Kelly says, at a greatly
reduced salary.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, she took a five million dollar haircut, and it
looks like it too. Doesn't look like it. I knew
that was coming. That's a great line. I love it.
Now you paid five million for that haircut? Did you
get a bowl of soup with it?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
She go to the barbershop with me and get it
for like twelve bucks?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
How was my Rodney Dangerfield line? Did you pick up
on that one? I love it? That's a great hat.
Do you get a bowl of soup with It's good?
All right?

Speaker 1 (05:33):
So I don't know if she's going to be on
tonight because this is now outside of the one hundred.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Days, all right, So I'm looking currently you're making me
do the deep dive MSNBC dot com schedule. Let's say
two o'clock, three o'clock is Katie Turr, four o'clock is Deadline,
White House, six o'clock The Beat with Ari Melbourne, y
MSNBC Primes at seven, eight o'clock is All In with
Chris Hayes nine o'clock, The Rachel Maddow Show, Wow. Then

(06:01):
The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell at ten, and if
you want to your late night hate, you get that
with Stephanie Rule at eleven o'clock.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Now, I have not watched this new comedy show that
is a CNN. Yeah, CNN is supposed to have a
new comedy show for the weekend.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
What is it like, like a legit comedy show or you.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Just know it's just supposed to be like a gut
Fell really show a response to Gutfell's popularity.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I'm googling CNN comedy show and see I have not
heard about this either.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah. If it doesn't pop up switch at the MSNBC. Uh,
they do that already with the Tonight show they try
to compete with.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
That is it called Have I Got News for You?
That's it hosted by roy Wood Junior and Anderson Cooper
and the five time Emmy Award winning The Whole Story
with Anderson Cooper. I don't know if roy Wood Junior
is from the Anderson Cooper Show.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I don't either. I haven't watched it yet. I just
knew they were coming out with it. I don't watch.
I kind of slipped back over to my MSNBC because
I love the outrage. CNN didn't quite bring it.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I guess it launched last month March twenty seventh, I
think or March twenty ninth was the first show. Sam
comedian and writer Sam Jay and commentator Sam Setter, host
will join as guests on this week's episode. Have I
Got News for You? This is a UK comedy series
that they're remaking, kind of like what we did with

(07:31):
the Office. That's right, we're just stealing from the Brits.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Gotcha?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
And Yeah, I don't know anything about this show, but
I literally I had not heard that CNN had a
comedy show. Have you seen you? Have you seen it?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Seen it? I just saw the promos.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Looks like it's Saturday nights at nine. So if you're
sitting indoors Saturday night, nine o'clock.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
And nine, I think that's Lara Trump's hour, her own fogs.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I haven't seen that either. How's that show?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Uh, it's you know what it is. It's like behind
the scenes with the Trump administration. Okay, she brings home
people who have been with him for a long time
or part of the administration now, who have also been
longtime business associates of Donald Trump. Okay, and it's pretty
interesting if you you know, if you want behind the
scenes kind of Donald Trump worship, that's that's a good show.

(08:27):
I mean, you really get you. There was one guy
I saw, and I don't watch the show that often,
I happen to stumble into it. And she introduced him
and he was at like twenty four years old working
at one of his golf courses, one of Trump's golf courses, Okay,
and some you know, he he whatever reason, was recognized
as a manager and raised to be and then was
put in a position actually run that particular location. I

(08:49):
forgot where it was, somewhere in the northeast. And then
Trump had a liking for him and started using more
inside the Trump organization. And and he is in the
White House today.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Wow, I mean, Donald Trump. If you go back and
look at some of the videos, documentary style videos interview
with Trump back. I don't know if they had him
in the eighties because I have, but I do remember
them distinctly in the nineties and they would say, here's
a day in the life of Donald Trump, and he

(09:21):
would he knew the names of people who were like
not just the doorman who he saw every day, but
like cleaning people who he might see once a month,
and he would know not just their names, but he
was like he'd be walking and you know, they would
all say good morning, mister Trump, and he was like, Rosalita,

(09:41):
how's your mother doing? Is that? Did that work out?
Glad to hear it? All right, You're doing a fantastic job.
And then you just keep moving on and they were like,
isn't it great, Like they would say to the camera, Guy,
I can't believe that one of the world's richest men
knows my name. Like I've worked for other wealthy people
they didn't even acknowledge I existed. He not only knows
my name, he asks about my mother, asked about my kids.

(10:02):
He's he's that guy. He's he's a Look. You may
not like the way he speaks, but you cannot say
that Donald Trump does not go out of his way
to be nice and he wants to do good. I
totally believe that, Yeah, he wants to do good.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
There's too many people around him who don't have any
reason to say as who say the same things. You know,
so ma of these people have no reason to say that. Yeah,
I mean even if you go back to the NAACP
in New York or other places in the country back
in the day. It's funny we you see those montages
on social media. Is him shaking Reverend Al's hand. They're

(10:43):
seated at a table somewhere at a banquet.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Big ear to ear grins. They love it.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh my, okay, Now we're gonna hear more fallout today.
But how Donald Trump is dragging the economy down to
the dirt. He's not going to be happy until he
takes all the money out of your four oh one
k and transfers that directly to Elon Musk. So you're
gonna hear all that today, and I don't know how
we're going to survive another five hundred and whatever days.
It is whatever whoever quoted that yesterday, I think it

(11:11):
was Hakeem, but nonetheless Hakeem and Chucky Schumer and all this.
I don't know if you saw the playback. I think
it was. I know it was on Fox. Who else
would have shown this?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
But it was away?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh wait, it was it was. It was a little
video montage. It was Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, and I've
forgotten who the third person was. But they were saying
they showed what they said in twenty seventeen compared to
what they said yesterday.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
That's the same thing. See, it's like same words.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
You know, this has been the worst one hundred days
in American history. He's killing the economy. He's going to
take your Medicare, he's going to take your Social Security.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I appreciated that. Last night he came out and said
it again, you know, with the you know, the big rally,
we are not going to te nickel of your Social Security.
We want you deserve every penny of that the great
seniors needed. We're not going to touch a nickel of
your Medicare or your Medicaid. As a matter of fact,
we'd like to give more. The only thing we're cutting

(12:13):
is the waste and the fraud, and that just they
keep trying to run with that, and it's so anti
what Trump is about.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I was a little disappointed here to make more out
of that and earlier in the speech, because that's like
the biggest thing going right now. Because I don't know
if you saw a picture of the other night. I
forgot who put it up, as a Democrat was holding
a town hall somewhere, but someone to put it up
and said, what's the first thing that strikes you about
this photo? Well, plainly it was all white, older men

(12:45):
and women, okay, which Democrats hate all.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Of them, including themselves.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
But they were celebrating it because they saw that Donald
Trump's base was turning against them. Because these people know
that they're going to lose all their Social Security income,
all of the medicare. They'll die lonely in the street
somewhere under a bridge and a cardboard box. So they
were celebrating them the other night. And it's going to
come to me in a minute. Which congressman was having
the town hall, but he put that picture up. So,

(13:13):
but I wish he made a bigger emphasis out of
that and put it sooner in his speech last night
because of all the things going on, and nobody really
knows how the terrorists deal is going to flush out,
because they're doing all these agreements and they're individually done.
It's not a cookie cutter deal. Like you said before.
We know that China is going to play horrorball. You
knew that going in. China's been playing murder ball for

(13:35):
the past fifty years, so now at least they have
to play like by some kind of rules. Hopefully by
the end of the way this is going to be
written out. But the absolute ballface lie is that Donald
Trump's going to take your social Security and Elon Musk
is here to take it.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, that's insane now.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
But the big thing last night also had to do
with immigration. A lot of people are excited about his
immigration policy. Even MSMB season the reporter route and they
could come back with nothing other than people who agree
with them. I don't even know why they put it
on the air. They should have said, okay, you're fired
and send him home. But the reporter came back with
the package and they actually aired it. Trey Goudy and
Bacari Sellers met last night seated on the stage wafferd

(14:17):
to College and they were talking about news of the day.
I'm sure now they did speak specifically about given that
they're both two lawyers, they spoke specifically about the Kilmar
Abrigo Garcia case. Now I do agree with Trey Goudi's
quote here the result you get matters, but how you

(14:38):
get that result matters every bit as much. And given
that he's a prosecutor and his entire celebrated background, even
he says it was his favorite job was making sure
you bring evidence to the court. That evidence has to
stand up to the scrutiny of how the evidence was
obtained and how it's presented in court. YadA, YadA, YadA.
And I get all that, and I agree with him

(15:00):
on that particular position. How could you disagree? Well, I mean,
if you're going to stand up for the rule of all,
you got to stand up for it in the court
as well. And then Bacary Sellers and Trey Goudi here
find some common ground where they're both agreeing that this
Garcia should have been brought.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Back, which is insane given the position of Bacari Sellers. Again,
Democrat lawyer says, quote, there's not one person who will
say that Kilmar should not be deported. I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying is bring him back and go through
the process and deport him legally. And shockingly, Trey agrees

(15:43):
with that position. I don't understand that if we already know,
if it's beyond a shadow of a doubt. And when
you talk about due process, does it mean nothing that
you had two judges, you had two separate trials where
they both declared despite his protests. I got the fact

(16:04):
that Kilmar saying I'm not a member of MS thirteen,
but the police and the judges said you are. It's
like I didn't rob that bank, but the police and
the judge said you did. So your objection means nothing.
At this point. You are guilty, and it happened twice,
and so you have been declared a member of what

(16:25):
is now a terrorist organization. So the rule of law
says anybody who's a member of a terrorist organization must
be deported as soon as possible. That is the due process.
That is the law. And by the way, he had
due process in El Salvador, which is why El Salvador

(16:47):
put him in prison. If we deport you to El Salvador,
you don't automatically go into a prison, not.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
If you haven't done anything wrong. I would imagine. I'm
not an expert on the Salvadorian government or authoritarian ship,
and nowfore it reaches But.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
No, so El Salvador has been talking about. I mean again,
it's not like been an obsession with them. Kill Maar.
We got to get kill Mar. But when he was
when he was sent away by his mother to go
live with his brother in Maryland, it was because, according
to her, the gangs were trying to get Kilmar into

(17:22):
the gangs. However, the El Salvador authorities said, no, we're
looking to arrest kill Maar because he's involved in gang
related crimes, and that's when she sent him away. So
El Salvador has said he's guilty. The US has said
he's guilty. You've had at least three trials now about

(17:43):
this guy, and yet Trey Goudy agrees with the Bakari
sellers that the taxpayers should pay to fly him back,
have another legal representation paid for by the US taxpayers,
at which time he will be deported again back to
El Salvador. We're gonna pay for all that, So for what?
So we can feel better about ourselves.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well, one of the quotes they added in of the
article you'd read in the Posting Courier. Here's a quote.
You can't defy court orders end quote. Okay, so you
know if you have a court order and you've been
told you're gonna have to facilitate his return. That's where
I would be like, of course, I put a little
snark on it with the way I would do it,

(18:25):
But if I were Trump, I'd definitely bring him back.
We'd had to go ahead and have the d OJ
set up a little temporary court room there. We fly in,
march him off. Don't put him in the terminal. He's
a freaking gang member. He marched him off. Let him
walk across the tarmack, go into a hangar.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Is he shackled, Yes, he shackled legs and feet, damn right, and.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
You uh did shack And then you give him and
allow reporters to come in, put a put a camera pool,
get a pool camera in there. We're going to have
as complete due process demonstrated before the world. We're going
to march your ass right back out across the Tornabac.
Put you're right back on a plane flown by a Vello,
which I did not know of last night until Rachel

(19:12):
Maddows spent half her show on it. I'm gonna fly
your ass right back to El Salvador.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I mean, that's an option. It's it just seems so
insane because they're going to say this about everybody. Now,
everybody needs to come back.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, Michelle Obama, Sarai told you that this is what
keeps her up at night. It's not just the criminals.
It's going to be every person of color is going
to be flown off by Donald Trump, El Salvador, every
person of color.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
And that's the point is that they're trying to say, well, okay,
so like when we talk about due process, you can't
what did Trey say, you can't go? You can't.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Ers?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Okay, So what if the court order is in defiance
of a court order? So, for example, the Illegal Alien Act,
according to that, if you are identified as a gang member,
or if we go back to the original seventeen hundred,
you're identified as an enemy of the country, we are
to get you out of the country as soon as possible.

(20:14):
That's the court order, that is law. Okay. Now you've
got a district judge saying that you can't get them
out of the country until you give them a twenty
one twenty one day heads up that we're going to
be coming to prosecute you, and then they get to
stand in front of a judge and have their day

(20:35):
in court. That's in defiance of federal law. Your court
order is in defiance of federal law. Donald Trump should
give her a big blankety blank you and we're deporting
them right. Tom Holman is laughing at the This is
for judge so and so get on the plane. There
goes another one.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Judge now and then the fallout of the people who
want to storm the streets. Ask Princeker has Princeker prisker, you're.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Talking about the Illinois governor JB. Fetti.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, Princeker has called for the storming of the streets.
They're storming because you can't storm the court. So now
they're storming. This particular airline in Kelly's home state of Connecticut.
I believe it's pronounced a Vello.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
I wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
When I was there, a Vello, which is I think
it wasn't an upstart, but it was a It was
an airline that Connecticut invested in such a way as
to help them service I guess their community and their
and their citizens. But they gave them a moratorium of life,
fuel tax and stuff, and they helped with the footprint
expansion the cup of the airport so a Vello could

(21:42):
create more commerce for their citizens, of commerce their citizens
could benefit from. But now they're going to pull the
rug out from under a vello because they accepted a
contract from the federal government to fly these deportees wherever
it is that they're supposed to fly them. And if
you are going at the state attorney general, whose name

(22:02):
is avades Me at the moment, would not refer to
the company as a fellow, but he insisted on calling
them air Ice.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I like that name.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
If I were the CEO, I absolutely would change the
name of the airline to air Eyes, if only for
a couple of planes that'll be making the flights. So
they're storming to the airports now to protest that this company,
who they feel as though they helped keep in business
because of the tax incentatives to do business in Connecticut

(22:34):
and then the moratorium on the taxes or whatever it
was that they.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Supplied for them.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Their state, they say, is doing business with a company
that is may not illegally, but they're immorally conducting themselves
in such a way that we will not support.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
They are actually following the law. They are and I'm
reading them. This is on their Wikipedia page of Llow
Airlines and April of twenty twenty five. By the way,
we're currently in April of twenty twenty five. In April
of twenty twenty five, Avello Airline signed an agreement for

(23:10):
a long term charter program flying out of the US
Department of Homeland Security Immigration Customs Enforcement Agency to support
the department's deportation efforts. The company opens a new base
out of Mesa Gateway Airport in Arizona. So the idiots
in my former home state of Connecticut are protesting something
that's happening in Arizona. By the way, Avello based in Houston, Texas,

(23:34):
so it has nothing to do with Connecticut. You are
making a fools out of yourselves. You're boycotting something that
has one daily flight out of New Haven. That's condemning
an airline not based in your state. Yeah, the home
headquarters is in Houston.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
We're taking a contract from the phedrovernmental agency to fill
out of Arizona because you don't like the way that
they're facilitating your contract from your governmental agency.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
It's great. Justin Elleker is currently the mayor of New Haven.
I'm surprised that DiStefano is not the mayor anymore. That
guy was the mayor for four hundred and seventy two years.
Justin Elker I've never met, but he is the one
who led a petition criticizing the agreement and has personally

(24:23):
contacted a Vello president Andrew Levy to urge him to reconsider,
and now is facing calls for a boycott of their
daily flight out of New Haven.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Let me just say this right now. If I'm a Vello,
I am trying. I'm calling CIE, I'm calling GSP, I'm
calling CHS, I'm calling whatever the airport abbreviation is, and
all the major airports in Birmingham or Alabama, the state

(24:56):
of Louisiana. I am using this now if you're going
to get boycotted in the northeast, Okay, look, I'm just
taking a government contract, same thing I agreed to with you.
You gave me the opportunity to come in and supply
this service for your citizens, and you offer me these
tax incentives, and you look at what you did.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I've never met Andrew Levy. He's the president, former president
of Allegiant Air, current president of VELO. He's quite the smartass.
You'll appreciate him. Apparently, somebody at the Charles M. Schultz
Sonoma County Airport also criticized a Vello, and they said

(25:38):
board chair Linda Hopkins stated they'll never get another dime
from me, and he said, please let them know. We've
just canceled all flights out of the Charles M. Schultz
Sonoma County Airport in order to facilitate our big new
government contract.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
So you're right, we might end up with one dime
that belonged at some point to you.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah. I love this.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I want to meet this. I want him to set
up a flight from wherever to Myrtle Beach. Get on
your flight to Myrtle Beach and fly anywhere except Del
Salvador
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