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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, do.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You remember when the bunny took Joe Biden?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
He is not taking Trump out, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
That was a beautiful moment when the bunny saved Joe Biden, Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And Kelly Show.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Many of his detractors would say, that was Monday after Easter,
that will be that would be the new hole Hitler
leading us out a high Holy week.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I don't know, and I did think it was. As
it was pointed out, Joe Joe Biden had all white money.
This bunny was plainly bunny of color. Yes, we're not
sure if he's we know he ain't white. Hey, this
is Jonathan Rush's Kelly Nash.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Now, this week we had an opportunity to speak with
South Carolina Superintendent of Education Allen Weaver.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, there's a lot of controversy about the possible dissolvement
of the National Education Department. I I love the way
she answered these.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Questions that'll be coming up here in just a minute,
and listen. We record this song for a Saturday broadcast.
It is a little after eleven o'clock a Friday morning.
We don't even know what's going to be happening in
the general to say they having to do with the budget.
Everybody's concerned about the budget and different situations as scenarios
and tax implications and the like.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I know the Senate version has cut two billion dollars,
but they added three million for something close to their hearts.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
We're going to cut in close to their hearts in
segment two. And Nancy Mace wonder if she's in South
Carolina do with some shopping this week, and.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
She seems to be in everybody's district but her own.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
We'll talk about her coming up in segment four, but
we begin with the conversation we have pre recorded this
week with our Superintendent of Education, Allen Weaver.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
How y'all doing today?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
We're doing good, but I know not nearly as busy
as you are with all the things going on talking
about the budget and teacher salaries and you know the
talk from Washington, d C. Let's talk there first, because
a lot of people are very anxious about what's going
on with the new decree and possibly the elimination of
the Federal Office.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, no, you're right. I've heard from a lot of
people who are just very uncertain about what is happening
and what we can expect the impact to be here
in South Carolina. And so I actually just wrote an
op ed several weeks ago that ran in the Post
and Courier, and the title of it is keep Calm
and Educate on South Carolina's opportunity to lead. And in
that op ed I outline, you know, the primary concerns
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that I hear from people are around what is going
to happen to the federal money that helps support our
students who have special needs and our students who come
from low income families. And the great news in all
of this is that those programs which are called the
Title programs for low income students you might have heard
the phrase Title one funding, That's what that's all about.
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And then idea, which is the protections and funding that
we have for students with special needs. Those programs both
actually pre date the US Department of Education. They are
written into law, they are appropriated funds by Congress, and
they are not going anywhere. So the Department of Education
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could go away tomorrow and those guarantees and funds would
still be here for the students of South Carolina. That
I'll beed. I just wanted to, you know, mythbust a
little bit. I know it's probably shocking to you that
the mainstream media, national media is you know, in a
panic attack over every single thing that this administration does,
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whether their panic is based in fact or not. So
I wanted to just be very responsible in laying out
the facts of the situation for our teachers and parents
here in South Carolina so that we can have a
real conversation that's based in real facts and allows us
to keep doing our most important job, which is to
focus on the needs of our students.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
We're talking with Ellen Weaver and one of the pushes
because a lot of people can't push back on the
fact that obviously if you eliminate the federal Department of Education,
it would save money. They kind of serve as like
a middleman. So we take our tax dollars, we send
it to the government. The government and then gives it
to the Department of Education. Then they decide what they
think is best, They pay all their bureaucrats, and then
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they send it back to the States. This would eliminate
a lot of those bureaucrats, and like you said, it
would empower the state to do more. But one of
the pushbacks that Democrats have been throwing around is the
fact that quite honestly, they don't trust the states to
do the right thing that especially Republicans, and so, you know,
(04:26):
I find that highly insulting, but also not very likely
because you're in a position that can be voted on,
So if you're not doing a good job, the people
will remove you.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah. No, it's incredibly insulting, and it flies in the
face of over two hundred years of American history. I mean,
somehow we made it two hundred years in this country
without the federal government interfering outside of its constitutionally assigned
authority into education. I mean, we, you know, turned two
hundred years old as a country in seventeen seventy six.
(05:00):
Apartment was created in seventeenth I'm sorry, not seventeen seventy six,
nineteen seventy six, and the department was created in nineteen
seventy nine to pay off basically teachers' unions who supported
Jimmy Carter for president that year. And so you know,
it's really it's really just a complete, a complete insult
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to those of us at the state level who work
hard every day to the folks in our local schools
who are giving it, they are all to support students.
To say that we don't have the best interest of
South Carolina students at heart, and that we aren't going
to continue to do everything we can to ensure that
they have a great education if the federal government isn't
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looking over our shoulders, I think that's just silly.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Well, I know, as we record this on Thursday morning,
we're still in the throes of the conversation between the
House and the Senate and having new do with the
finalization of the budget, and there seems to be a
little bit not enough of a differentation between the budget
numbers between the House and the Senate. They create a problem.
I'm sure that lined that out to make sure we
hit our budgets projected number of forty eighty five hundred
minimum for our teachers in our state, so and not
(06:08):
speaking specifically to that, which will help us retain and
also attract teachers. But you have another program you've started
as well.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, we sure knew. We have a strategic compensation plan
that we have rolled out in thirty seven different schools
across the state. These are all schools who raised their
hand and volunteered to be part of this pilot. They
had to put together a plan for how they would
allocate the five million dollars in funding that was provided
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by the General Assembly. And the whole idea behind this
is that, you know, like you said, as a state,
we are seeking to provide a high opening bid for
teacher pay, if you will. We want to have a
competitive starting salary, and that's really what we've been working
on over the last five or six years here in
South Carolina. I mean, we've increased teacher pay forty seven
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percent for starting teacher since twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, which
is just which is just incredible, and we're continuing that
push to fifty thousand. I don't think we're gonna get
there in this year's budget, but we're very very close.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That increase almost kept up with Biden inflation, all most kept.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Up with Bien inflation. That's exactly right. So if that's
the idea behind the strategic compensation is that, you know,
we start with that strong foundation, that strong floor. But
then when you have teachers who are just doing an
exceptional job when it comes to moving the needle in
terms of academic performance and outcomes for their students. They
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should be rewarded for that. And so that's what that
strategic compensation pilot does, is that it rewards teachers who
are who are really having incredible success moving the needles,
specifically in our rural communities and in you know, high
poverty schools where sometimes it's it's harder, it's more of
a challenge because these students are maybe starting at a
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place of disadvantage, and those teachers, they teach their heart
out every single day, and we think that ought to
be rewarded.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Well, I know, as we look for ways to incentivize
teachers to want to work in our schools and certainly
show up every day. Can you tell me were you
aware of or do you know of now? Since we're
five weeks into what they say is a nine week
pilot program in Charleston County where they're actually paying twenty
five dollars to the families of students to attend, and
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this is supposed to help ward all for our absenteeism problem.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Absenteeism is a real problem, but I'm not sure that
the answer is paying students or families to combat it.
I think we've got to do a better job engaging
parents and educating them about the real challenges that their
students are going to face if they don't support their
students attendance in school. And then we also have to
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do what we've called for, what I've called for since
I've been in this office, which is really engage in
the teaching of foundational skills that equip students to fully
engage in their learning. I think you have a lot
of students who are disengaged because maybe they're just not
as prepared as they need to be. And so that's
the whole idea behind our reading initiative, and you know,
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so much else that we're doing with the cell phone
policy that we've talked about before, ensuring that students are
fully engaged in their learning, and helping parents understand why
it's so important that their child is there at school
every day.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Superintendent of Education Onlan Weaver, We've got to go quickly.
But lastly, what are you doing for the summer to
try to help kids not regress?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Well, you know, we have summer reading camps which are
part of South Carolina law that's actually a huge part
of the budget that the General Assembly is passing now
to help us increase access to those reading camps, not
just for struggling third graders, but for first and second
graders before they get to that important third grade gateway
and are still struggling. So I'm very, very excited about that.
(09:52):
And I also wanted to share that today is actually
the day that we are going to be naming our
South Carolina Teacher of the Year, which is a huge
celebration at the Governor's mansion. Governor McMaster and Miss Peggy
are always there and of course Max the Bulldog to
help us celebrate just the incredible gift that our teachers
are here in South Carolina to our students. So I'm
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really excited for the future of education in South Carolina.
Here in South Carolina, we're going to keep calm and
educate on Thank.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
You so much for your time today. This is a
big week for our kids. Thank you for heading all
those programs up and helping us keep it on track.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
It is truly a joy to be able to do
this work, and I appreciate you all allowing me the
opportunity to let your listeners know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
And as we talked about money for South Carolina school
there's a lot of talk about money this week with
the General Assembly having to do with the budget building,
get into some of that. Kelly wants to get close
to the senator's heart.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, you know, they've got an idea on how to
drain the swamp, and it might not be the answer
you thought of.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Next The Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan Rush back in
twenty sixteen, just thirty eight percent of voters wanted the
government that to try at the port all eleven million
undocumented immigrants. Compared to where we are.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
In twenty twenty five fifty six.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Percent the majority. Kelly Nash and I think that's a
big part of the reason why Americans are increasingly saying
the country is on the right track. The Jonathan and
Kelly Show plainly there's a lot of ground we can
cover in segment three having to do with the updates
on deportations.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, I mean, there's always so much going on with
Trump and the lawfair that goes not just against Trump,
actually against the country.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I did account today have a total count of the
lawsuits currently going on. We'll get into some of that
coming up in segment three. Here in South Carolina, the
General Assembly and we talked about one of our rast
thoughts earlier in the week. Thank you for listening during
the week and also to our podcast we put up
Monday through Thursday. We record this program on Friday, So
we can't speak specifically as to what the General Assembly
(11:49):
will have for news on Saturday morning having to do
with the budget, but there are a lot of different
aspects of the argument going on between the House and
the Senate.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, yeah, in the Senate versions of the budget, two
billion dollars of spending, which is fantastic, But they did
vote to give three million dollars more to a little
project they like to call themselves. That vote came down
twenty four to fifteen for the senators to increase. Now
it's actually not a salary increase, just so we're we're
(12:18):
speaking clearly. Get to pay raise, Yeah, there's they They
received ten four hundred dollars a year as their salary.
That has not changed since nineteen ninety. Now they get
stipends as well. They get one thousand dollars a month
which is meant for their legislative duties that can be
spent on anything that they consider to be their legislative duties.
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They also get another thousand dollars a month for whi's
called in district compensation. That thousand dollars is what they
actually voted on. The in district compensation went from one
thousand to twenty five hundred, so that goes from twelve
grand a year to thirty grand a year. And that's
what everybody's talking about.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
It's a lot of things that they do in district
media with the constituents and the like, and there's a
lot of expenses that go along with that. I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, there's a guy named Matt Leeber who's a senator
who's from the low Country, and you know, I laugh
when I say it because it just seems funny, But
I don't think that he's wrong. If you're trying to
drain the swamp, this is one of the ways to
do it, and it's to offer well. As he pointed out,
let me just get to his thing about where he said,
(13:29):
if you're a blue collar guy, you couldn't afford this job.
You just cannot afford to take this job. Now, inside
this story that's in the Post and Courier, he says,
and I'm just reading from here, Lieber, who works in
real estate, says he has not been able to do
many deals now that have probably cost him roughly three
hundred thousand dollars the last two years. But with the
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money he's not making, he's also spending more. He says
he's forced to incur unanticipated expenses like security now as
the left gets more and more riled up when he
has any kind of an appearance. So he has proposed
a bill that would allow lawmakers one thousand dollars a
month for bodyguards or security. He also points out that
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he is now personally drained one third of his savings,
so he's a third less more valuable today than he was,
and he goes this has me seriously contemplating, well, will
I run for reelection or not? Although this little bump
will be helpful, it's not the kind of money that
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he's giving up in order to be there.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, it's not going to replace the amount of money
he mentions that he's losing, and he's right. I mean,
if you're a blue collar worker and you don't have
the opportunity, let's say you want your own law firm
or insurance agency or your own big, huge company. At
this point, you can't just take off and go for
the session to Columbia, leave somebody else to run your business.
So this is one of the things that as he says,
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if you look at a drain the swamp, we want
to get regular people in, but regular people have regular jobs.
So I get it. And there are certainly expenses that
at one thousand dollars for your in district expenses, you
could see them burning through that pretty quick. So just
traveling with your car would take care of that, and
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then the other would be obviously for and more expensive
than others. Some for others. If you were representing like Salem,
South Carolina, if you lived in Salem and you're traveling
to Columbia, there's no easy way to get there. There's
a lot of miles in your car. If you live
in Lexington now it's so expensive to be at a
travel back and forth, or your stipend's not necessarily the problem.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, and it's funny that Shane Massey, who is the
Senate majority leader, actually voted against this, and he said
and he used the phrase pay raise. He says, I
don't think that there should have been a pay raise
passed through our budget. So he's staunchly against it, although
he will benefit from it. If and I guess that's
already been passed by the Senate, so I don't think
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you'll need the House now. The House is considering it,
and according to an interview they did with the House
Majority Leader Davey Hyatt, Republican, pickens It says he seems
amused by the proposal. He said, we'll have to see
what happens. It's been talked about quite a while around
here for the House members, but we've never seen it
get this far in the process. So we're just gonna
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have to see where we are.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
And that's just one of the aspects of the budget
that I'm sure by Saturday morning when this is broadcast,
you'll be very heard about something maybe on the news
last night or reading about the headline this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah. Yeah, we're not the breaking news show here on
Saturday mornings. We are the let's take a look at
what's actually happened. I think that it's exciting for them.
I do believe that this will help attract better candidates
kind of like what we talked about, was it like
four years ago, three years ago when they upped the
salary for pretty much all of the elected officials at
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like the state level, so I think the I know
the attorney general got a pay.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Raise Offtie talked about the pay raise that we're given
for the treasurer.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, and boy, that Curtis loftus. You know, it'll be
interesting to see what his path is moving forward, because
the House does not seem as if they're going to
take up the vote to remove him, although the Senate
overwhelmingly voted to remove him. I think he got eight
votes in favor of him, right, And he said that's
eight more than I expected.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And he wanted to step down anyway, because he said,
we finally gotten the salary level to a point where
we can get somebody really qualified to take this position.
And Curtis was at much like some of the Senators
and House members, he was in a position where he
could serve as a public service.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
He's independently wealthy.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yes, so, but now that all this dust up has come,
he's going to run for the office again, because if
we're going to try this in the streets, we're going
to take it to the people.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, he says, you've sullied my good name. You know,
dang well, that I was not responsible. He was responsible
for accounting for all the money not which accounts they
were in. That's his defense. It was up for the comptroller,
Richard Eckstrom to decide which accounts they were in. He's
the one who lost the one point eight billion dollars.
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The one point eight billion dollars was never missing, according
to Curtis Loftus. Even if he did make a mistake,
some of the senators who voted to keep him said
the mistake was not egregious enough that it would reach
the threshold to remove for the first time in the
state's history, an elected official. The people put him there,
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the people can remove them in eighteen months, but you
would have to actually commit a crime to be removed,
and he didn't commit a crime.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So as the week continues. Next week we'll get more headlines,
we can talk about more things we actually can say
concretely as we move forward for the state's expenditures and
our budget for the coming year. All right, coming up
in just a second, we're going to get into the
swamp talk, and then we will save all the Nancy
Mays talk until say.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Is it foul mouthed?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
We may have to beat ourselves.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
We'll be heavily censored.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
The Jonathan end Kelly show, Jonathan Rush.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I think at some point the president of Al Salvador
realized it was looking really bad.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Kelly Nash to have this America, that this person who
had been absconded from America from the streets of Maryland,
Kelly Show, that was one of my favorite moments. Pretty
hard to pick your favorite moment. When Democrats start speaking
as they are defending gang members who have been deported
and they want to bring them back. Senative in Hell
almost called him an American citizen there had to pull
(19:29):
up quick to retrieve it. Those words American, Shay, Well,
you know he's excrem. He's got a right to be here,
all right. So we got more Democrats head of another.
They're going all over the place. Down in Louisiana. I've
forgotten the House members showed have yesterday with the Eastern outfit,
but it was quite quite, quite tracting. She got everybody's attention.
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I'm not sure what she was saying. I have to
go back and see if I can get a transcript
of the word she was trying to use. She was out,
she was so outraged, she couldn't speak. She's like, Alin,
we have so much to cover here in such a
few short minutes for our Swamp Talk. This is Friday
when we record this, and we just read the news
where the Department of Justice just arrested another judge. We
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had one earlier in the week who apparently had to
invite a couple of gang members in to live in
his house.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I'm gonna literally just say he's a gang member. As
the Prownce trained to Agua, he had three gang members
living in his home. The videos show him passing around
high powered weapons with these three in his house, laughing
it up, sharing cocktails together with the gang bangers. He
was arrested. First he quit, he resigned, Then on Wednesday
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he was disbarred for life, and then Thursday he was
arrested along with his wife. So they're all in jail.
And then this morning the breaking news out of Milwaukee.
Is that or excuse me, Wisconsin. I'm not sure exactly. Oh,
it is. Milwaukee County judge Hannah Dugan was arrested in
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her own courtroom as proceedings were about to begin this morning.
I hope that there's video of this later on. In
my mind, I like to imagine it as she walks
into the room and the bailiff or whatever. He yells out,
all rise for the honorable Judge, Hannah Dugan and then
somebody says, is that Hannah Dugan right there? And they're like,
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who's talking? Ice agents and they came in and I
could see her saying, you know, bailiffs, stop them and
there's like ten of them and they're like, Judge, hands
behind your back, you are gonna need a lawyer, now, Judge,
you need a lawyer. And they cuffed her and stuffed her.
And this is because I guess it was late last month.
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She had an illegal in her in for a pre
trial conference on three misdemeanor battery charges. ICE showed up
to arrest him, and the court officials told the ICE agents,
you can't enter and arrest him until this proceeding is over.
So they waited outside the courtroom. Somebody told the judge.
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The judge then snuck him out a side.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Door at a secret entrance to escape the building to
evade the ICE agents.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Now, thankfully, the ICE agents caught wind of it and
somehow ran this guy down, so they did arrest him
that day. He's been in jail ever since, and I
guess Cash Pattel and the crew have been thinking do
we want to charge her? And they came to the conclusion.
I guess last night we're arresting her. I liked that
they didn't do it at her house. Yeah, humiliate her
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as much as possible. And as she walks in as
the judge, everybody has to rise when I walk.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
In, recognizing my full authority.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Well do I have to wear my robe for the mugshot?
Can I take the robe off for the mugshot?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It is a great video.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I hope we have it. That's almost better than the scene.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Did you order the cord red?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You damn right?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
What is it with these liberal judges and there with
the crime, their love of illegal activities and gang bangers,
and they're just obsessed with destroying America.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
The Democrats are proving the Republicans are the party of
law and order. The Democrats are the party of criminal justice.
We got to get more justice for these criminals, and
they'll fly to El Salvador to do it.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And the justice officials that are Democrats are in fact criminals,
it seems. I mean, the way they've infiltrated our entire
system is amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And now they don't have the reigns of the doj
plainly and how many lawsuits? I went and counted it up. Today.
I found a web page that is updated minutely according
just scrolling through it, and I was he had to
scroll for a while. Brother, There are currently two hundred
and eight lawsuits launched against the Trump administration. Two hundred
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and eight.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Now, is that a lot? I don't know, as that's
a lot. I'm not saying that sarcastically because I remember,
like one time we had Alan Wilson on our Attorney
general for South Carolina. He was talking about they have
somebody on staff whose only job it is is to
continually file suits against Joe Biden's administration.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, of the two hundred and eight that I counted,
there were three that have been closed, but we have
two hundred in eight open case And I don't know
how to compare that, but I know that we do
a lot of comparison when Trump's in office, as opposed
to like, for instance, with the Putin conversation. Now they
want to make sure that Ukraine is able to reclaim CRIMEA.
Wait a minute, Obama handed over CRIMEA.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It seems though that whenever there's a any kind of action,
executive order, whatever, that could help the country or needs
to help the country. You know, you're looking at the
what was it, the Alien Act or whatever it was called,
the way terrorists. Yeah, so okay, so that is approved
as constitutional by the Supreme Court. So Donald Trump can
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use that power. And it says that once somebody is
in a group that's identified as a terrorist organization, they
can be immediately deported because they are considered a high
risk to all Americans. Well, now you've got one circuit
liberal nut job judge who says, well, they need at
least twenty one days heads up. Well, that defeats the
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whole purpose of letting a criminal somebody who's out to
kill you. Hey, listen, before we deport you, you got
twenty one days to think it over. Maybe do the
whatever the terrorist activity was that you were thinking about doing.
Maybe kind of push up that cycle on us a
little bit. Anything that comes across their desk, it's good
for the country. They stamp it rejected.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
It's truly amazing when you look at over the past.
During the four years of the Biden administration, the law
fair was all targeted exclusively to DJT. Now the lawfare
is targeted against us because when they file against the
Trump administration for doing things that he campaigned on. We're
going to deport illegals, and we're going to start with
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the worst of the worst. And there's been nothing but
law suit at the lawsuit, at the lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
They're all hanging their hopes on this one guy from
Maryland who you know. Last week, Trump tweeted out the
photo you know, for somebody who has nothing to do
with them as thirteen. It's ironic that he would have
an MS thirteen on his knuckles, Like why would you
tattoo that?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And it is amazing that it really didn't do a
great job of vetting this guy. I mean, it's bad
enough his criminal activity, then you bring in the personal stuff.
I mean, we even got the lawsuits now, or the
restriction orders that were ordered in the court because of
his wife's allegations of domestic dispute. There's more and more
and more stuff comes out, but they're going to stick
with it, brother, because they're all in now.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Well, I want to find who in the FBI made
the call back in what was it twenty twenty two
or whatever it was, when he was accused of human trafficking.
He got pulled over in Tennessee. He's in a van
that is not his. It's got I think they said
eight passengers in it. Nobody has any luggage, he says.
(26:58):
I'm driving from Houston to Maryland and the cop pulled
them over, I think for speeding or maybe whatever it was.
But he immediately suspects this is human trafficking. Why does
nobody have any luggage here? Where are you all going? Well,
he says, they're going to work for my boss up
in Maryland on a construction site. So where's your address?
They all give the same address, which is his. He
(27:22):
calls it into his bosses, and the bosses run a
trace on the vehicle. That vehicle is registered to someone
who pled guilty to human trafficking? Who is the boss
that they're identifying as who they're going to go to
work for? And then because they checked that car, somehow
it penned. The FBI and the Tennessee State troopers said,
(27:45):
we got a phone call while the stop was happening
from the FBI saying, the federal government orders you to
let them go. What the hell was that? Who made
that call? Those heads need to roll.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I got to feel were going to get an answer
for that. If we're walking in the courtrooms arresting judges
while they're on the bench. We're going to find out
what's going on in the FBI office wherever that ping
popped up and somebody disregarded that are dismissed.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well, is that a protected vehicle? That license plate? You
ruled that license plate.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
In prairie protection status?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
What the hell is going on in America?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And then all the salivating going on with the Democrats.
The biggest concern now is not the Trump administration, is
what the hell AOC and Bernie Sanders are going to
take over our party? They're getting all their good polling
out of the Democrat constituency.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, they are. And I don't know if you saw
AOC's ad. I mean they call it an AOC Bernie ad.
AOC put it up late Thursday night. That is a
good ad. That is a powerful ad. And you know
she's talking about we've got to unite this country. It
doesn't work if there's you know, blacks versus whites, Latinos
versus Asians, Democrats versus Republicans, people from the big city
(28:52):
versus people in the rural areas, the farmers and the
people in the cities. We all need to be united
around this great flag of ours and build this nation.
And as a former waitress standing here talking to an
arena filled with people from this podium, I can tell
you the American dream is alive today and I am
the embodiment of it, and it is possible for anybody
(29:14):
in America to be great. Let's do it together. And
the music's playing, the crowd is going wild, and it's like,
holy crap. You know she hates America, right, yeah, you
get that part. And at one point she said, you
just need the faith of a mustard seed. And Christian's
ears all perk up when you hear faith of a
mustard seed. And what she says in that next does
not have anything to do with God. She pause. Remember
(29:36):
they removed God in twenty twelve. God was kicked out
of the Democrat Party in twenty twelve. But she says,
you just need to and every one of you, you
represent the mustard seeds, and with your faith in yourselves
and each other, we can win back America.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
And people listening to this podcast are going, wait a minute,
don't didn't we see even back with beginning of Barack Obama,
everybody realized that they were all here to divide us
against ourselves. They had to make sure everybody stayed in
their tribe. And you have a reason to hate the
other tribe. And everybody was hating on each other. But
now they're going to bring you all together. Can't everybody
see the camouflage? Well, no, because they've been watching the
six thirty evening news.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Listen, how about this. We got a case going on
right now in South Carolina that is also kind of
a national story. We've got Democrats who don't want to
take an oath to the Constitution. You know what, I
bet you if we asked AOC, should senators and congressmen
and the president have to swear an oath of the Constitution?
(30:32):
Not that one, not the one written by the white supremacists.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And now that we're having apparently a lot of fun
on MSNBC and CNN about some of the dust up
and disagreements and the Trump administration, particularly with Elon Musk
having to do with Besset. Supposedly the screaming matches that
are going on, this is what it sounds like when
doves cry. Why are we screaming at each other? You know,
I'm sure there always been disagreements in administrations. I don't
know what they were arguing about over in particular, but
(30:58):
I'm glad to know that the agreements going on. We
don't want one thought process just to run all the
way through. Somebody's got to stand up and point out
a problem if it's going to be coming down the pike.
I'm excited to hear that.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Look, if there's any knock on the Trump administration at
this point, I would think one of them would be
it's too transparent. You're seeing to You didn't see anything
in the Biden administration. You couldn't hear anything. Every once
in a while, you'd hear some sort of murmur about
somebody who used to work for the First Lady at
the time, Joe Biden thought she was a total whatever.
(31:29):
You didn't hear a whole lot of Joe Biden is
literally like the walking dead, Like you didn't hear that,
and we knew it. You could see the lack of
public appearances, and when you saw him just walk across
the lawn, you'd be like, that guy ain't right.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, I mean, they invite you to the Oval office,
and Trump is so comfortable in front of the canvas.
He just says things out loud. Yeah, we got some
criminals here in the US. Maybe we want to think
about sending the O Salvador. I don't know if that's.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Legal or not. Maybe I'll run for office in twenty
twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Hey, we were also seeing now as we talk more
about the Democrats and what's happening with their interior struggle,
Dick Durbin now stepping aside. Joe Biden's obviously out of
the picture. Nancy Pelosi is going to get pushed out.
You got a lot of the old guards starting to
fall away. President Hogg, as we have referred to him
for years now, because ever since the shooting where he
took the opportunity when he wasn't even in school that day,
(32:21):
to come in and start grabbing the camera, knew plainly
how to work the America media, and the American media
fell in love with him. So you've got this new
branch of the Democrat Party coming in to push him
even further left. As plainly, people are standing in applauding
socialism for Bernie Sanders and AOC. So it's going to
be interesting to see who else follows in the footsteps
of Dick Durbin.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, you know, you saw the CNN polls, and they
show that right now Alexandria O Kaeso Cortez outpolls Chuck
Schumer by I think about twelve points right now in
New York. So the Democrat Party has fallen like it
is gone. Like when you thought that they might be
the party of the working middle class and all that
(33:02):
that is over. They are there. We hate America. America
shouldn't be the best any of that stuff. We love illegals,
We want high crime. Like they're not even like really
upset about that case in California where the two and
they're migrant teens who are here legally, their parents came
here legally and they were killed by an illegal drunk
(33:23):
who had already been arrested earlier for murder and let
go by a California judge, deported twice, came back, kills
these kids, gets out in three years, and the California
Democrat Party, you're like, and that's that's what we want here.
We want chaos. And that's why when you look at
Alexandro Ocasio Cortez, you look at ilhan Omar. Ilhan Omar
(33:44):
gave a speech this week in which she said, if
we were to win the House and send it back,
I guarantee you we would be suing personally for money.
The Republicans who are in the Senate, the ones who
lie to you, they are all liars. Donald Trump and
every one of them's a liar. They would all have
to stand in front of judges that we have picked.
The judges we have picked, says ilhan Omar. We are
(34:05):
going to shut down this country, and she got a
standing ovation from ten thousand people.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Well, a lot of people are excited about it. The
first year they come to mind will be Ellen DeGeneres
and Rosie o'donald. They're very excited about possibly moving back
to the US.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I feel bad for Ken Martin, who's the DNC chair,
because he is now trying to act as if they're
in the middle. He's got to fight now with David
Hogg and Boss Hogg done told you. I'm fronting the
primary money to go after anybody who served more than
two or three times in Senate or whatever. I want
them out. I want new blood, I want people who
(34:37):
are more aggressive against the Republicans, and I'm going to
pay for it. I'm going to fundraise it and Ken
Martin's like, no, no, we're not doing that. Stand down,
David Hogg. I think he's going to come back this
weekend and say, you know what, you're not the You're
not the boss anymore. You're not the boss anymore. Bear,
you sit out on the palth ha ha.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
We got our own flare ups going over here in
the Republican Party in the state of South Carolina. But
get captured on video.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Next the Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan rush.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
L Salvador is the destination for Democrats seeking the thrill
of bringing violent, criminal, illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Back to America.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Kelly Nash come witness Trump derangement syndrome in its purest form.
Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
You know, I'd never considered El Salvador as being a
great spring or summer getaway.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
You know, it's interesting because you're not a Democrat. We
don't think like they think.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Oh, they're going to be busy over the weekend. I'm
sure we'd be talking about more of those trips. And
who's popping up with Is there a Democrat cruise lined
up yet?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
That sounds like all the blue haired, purple haired nut
jobs on a cruise ship together. They'd all have their
little protest signs as they cruised down to El Salvador.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Now, because we live in South Carolina, and I guess
maybe even people plugged in nationwide politically are used to
seeing Nancy Mace popping up on video. She'll certainly pop
up on a television screen whenever there's an opportunity for
her to have an interview, but we also see her
in some interesting videos. Now, this one I thought was
she was very proud to put it up. So I
don't know why I'm questioning her judgment on this, but
(36:08):
it seems like she might have just overbexponded a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, there's a she's at the Ulta in Mount Pleasant
buying I don't know, makeup or whatever, and she's asked
by a man who is recording it on his phone,
when is your next town hall event? And she took
offense to that. And obviously there's been a lot of
contention at Republican town halls. Democrats have been sabotaging these events,
(36:34):
and so she immediately jumped to, well, I've already had
a bunch of town halls. You should have come to
some of them. And he was like, I haven't asked
about your past town halls. I'm asking when is your
next one? And she really didn't like the tone then,
and so she starts and Jonathan, you've talked about this,
IQ points drop. You don't think clearly when you're angry,
(36:54):
and she was angry, so I don't know if she
meant to say it. But in the middle of that
little ring back towards them, she says, and just so
you know, I voted for gay marriage twice. And that's
an interesting position if you're considering a run for governor
of South Carolina as a Republicans the.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Greatest thing to brag about. But I guess she was
trying to be relatable. She could plainly tell by his
epidermal layer he was well moisturized.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Well that's how he signed himself off, a well moisturized constituent.
But the you know, again, she is obviously considering a
run for government. She's been in the last three or
four days. She's been in Columbia, Yep, Greenville, in North Augusta.
None of those are in her territory.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, who do you think you are, James Clyburn, You're
showing up in districts she don't represent.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Exactly, and you're having town halls there. Now, she did
have one in Beaufort area, which is I guess, well,
what's the name of the little place that she was at.
It's in her district. I guess they put Beaufort, but
it's actually called Detaw Island, which is a private, gated
community in her district. So she had that one on
April twenty third, that would have been what Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
You know. And I guess she's put up so many
videos where people might have second guessed that maybe she
just gets off on it.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Now I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
But when you start screaming FU to someone who we
believe to be a constituent or anybody on video, and
you're proud of that moment, you put it up and
now she's not gonna apologize, we had to come out
with another news story to make sure you knew that
that's what she is raw well, and.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
She'll also tell you that I'm what a sex abuse
survivor and all that. So I felt threatened and so on,
and so invaded her space. He I mean, it doesn't
look that way to me, even on her video like
the one that she posted it doesn't look like he's
in her space. He's like three or four feet from her.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
I know, if I see Nancy walking down the sidewalk,
I'm going to give her a wide berth. I'm going
to walk across the street. Make sure I don't come
close to evading her space.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Don't ask her any questions. Don't ask her any questions,
just nothing. Just tell her she looks good and beyond
be done with it. All right.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
We'll continue to track her as she videos herself and
puts it up online for us to review and make
this run towards the governor, although she hasn't officially announced yet.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
We're all weighted with baited breath on that one, aren't we?
And again, is the cornerstone of your platform going to be?
I voted for gay marriage twice as you try to
win a GOP primary.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
She staked out an interesting position in this cotton.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
No one else had gone for that.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
It's an interesting strategy. All right, South Carolina, help meself
for great Saturday. We'll be back Monday with a rash thought.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Did Jonathan m kelly show? That is our broadcast? Thank
you for being here with us. I'll show myself out
until we meet again in wvoz
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, do.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You remember when the bunny took Joe Biden?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
He is not taking Trump out, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
That was a beautiful moment when the bunny saved Joe Biden, Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
And Kelly Show.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Many of his detractors would say, that was Monday after Easter,
that will be that would be the new hole Hitler
leading us out a high Holy week.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I don't know, and I did think it was. As
it was pointed out, Joe Joe Biden had all white money.
This bunny was plainly bunny of color. Yes, we're not
sure if he's we know he ain't white. Hey, this
is Jonathan Rush's Kelly Nash.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Now, this week we had an opportunity to speak with
South Carolina Superintendent of Education Allen Weaver.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Well, there's a lot of controversy about the possible dissolvement
of the National Education Department. I I love the way
she answered these.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Questions that'll be coming up here in just a minute,
and listen. We record this song for a Saturday broadcast.
It is a little after eleven o'clock a Friday morning.
We don't even know what's going to be happening in
the general to say they having to do with the budget.
Everybody's concerned about the budget and different situations as scenarios
and tax implications and the like.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I know the Senate version has cut two billion dollars,
but they added three million for something close to their hearts.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
We're going to cut in close to their hearts in
segment two. And Nancy Mace wonder if she's in South
Carolina do with some shopping this week, and.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
She seems to be in everybody's district but her own.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
We'll talk about her coming up in segment four, but
we begin with the conversation we have pre recorded this
week with our Superintendent of Education, Allen Weaver.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
How y'all doing today?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
We're doing good, but I know not nearly as busy
as you are with all the things going on talking
about the budget and teacher salaries and you know the
talk from Washington, d C. Let's talk there first, because
a lot of people are very anxious about what's going
on with the new decree and possibly the elimination of
the Federal Office.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, no, you're right. I've heard from a lot of
people who are just very uncertain about what is happening
and what we can expect the impact to be here
in South Carolina. And so I actually just wrote an
op ed several weeks ago that ran in the Post
and Courier, and the title of it is keep Calm
and Educate on South Carolina's opportunity to lead. And in
that op ed I outline, you know, the primary concerns
(02:20):
that I hear from people are around what is going
to happen to the federal money that helps support our
students who have special needs and our students who come
from low income families. And the great news in all
of this is that those programs which are called the
Title programs for low income students you might have heard
the phrase Title one funding, That's what that's all about.
(02:42):
And then idea, which is the protections and funding that
we have for students with special needs. Those programs both
actually pre date the US Department of Education. They are
written into law, they are appropriated funds by Congress, and
they are not going anywhere. So the Department of Education
(03:02):
could go away tomorrow and those guarantees and funds would
still be here for the students of South Carolina. That
I'll beed. I just wanted to, you know, mythbust a
little bit. I know it's probably shocking to you that
the mainstream media, national media is you know, in a
panic attack over every single thing that this administration does,
(03:23):
whether their panic is based in fact or not. So
I wanted to just be very responsible in laying out
the facts of the situation for our teachers and parents
here in South Carolina so that we can have a
real conversation that's based in real facts and allows us
to keep doing our most important job, which is to
focus on the needs of our students.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
We're talking with Ellen Weaver and one of the pushes
because a lot of people can't push back on the
fact that obviously if you eliminate the federal Department of Education,
it would save money. They kind of serve as like
a middleman. So we take our tax dollars, we send
it to the government. The government and then gives it
to the Department of Education. Then they decide what they
think is best, They pay all their bureaucrats, and then
(04:05):
they send it back to the States. This would eliminate
a lot of those bureaucrats, and like you said, it
would empower the state to do more. But one of
the pushbacks that Democrats have been throwing around is the
fact that quite honestly, they don't trust the states to
do the right thing that especially Republicans, and so, you know,
(04:26):
I find that highly insulting, but also not very likely
because you're in a position that can be voted on,
So if you're not doing a good job, the people
will remove you.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah. No, it's incredibly insulting, and it flies in the
face of over two hundred years of American history. I mean,
somehow we made it two hundred years in this country
without the federal government interfering outside of its constitutionally assigned
authority into education. I mean, we, you know, turned two
hundred years old as a country in seventeen seventy six.
(05:00):
Apartment was created in seventeenth I'm sorry, not seventeen seventy six,
nineteen seventy six, and the department was created in nineteen
seventy nine to pay off basically teachers' unions who supported
Jimmy Carter for president that year. And so you know,
it's really it's really just a complete, a complete insult
(05:20):
to those of us at the state level who work
hard every day to the folks in our local schools
who are giving it, they are all to support students.
To say that we don't have the best interest of
South Carolina students at heart, and that we aren't going
to continue to do everything we can to ensure that
they have a great education if the federal government isn't
(05:43):
looking over our shoulders, I think that's just silly.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Well, I know, as we record this on Thursday morning,
we're still in the throes of the conversation between the
House and the Senate and having new do with the
finalization of the budget, and there seems to be a
little bit not enough of a differentation between the budget
numbers between the House and the Senate. They create a problem.
I'm sure that lined that out to make sure we
hit our budgets projected number of forty eighty five hundred
minimum for our teachers in our state, so and not
(06:08):
speaking specifically to that, which will help us retain and
also attract teachers. But you have another program you've started
as well.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, we sure knew. We have a strategic compensation plan
that we have rolled out in thirty seven different schools
across the state. These are all schools who raised their
hand and volunteered to be part of this pilot. They
had to put together a plan for how they would
allocate the five million dollars in funding that was provided
(06:36):
by the General Assembly. And the whole idea behind this
is that, you know, like you said, as a state,
we are seeking to provide a high opening bid for
teacher pay, if you will. We want to have a
competitive starting salary, and that's really what we've been working
on over the last five or six years here in
South Carolina. I mean, we've increased teacher pay forty seven
(06:58):
percent for starting teacher since twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, which
is just which is just incredible, and we're continuing that
push to fifty thousand. I don't think we're gonna get
there in this year's budget, but we're very very close.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That increase almost kept up with Biden inflation, all most kept.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Up with Bien inflation. That's exactly right. So if that's
the idea behind the strategic compensation is that, you know,
we start with that strong foundation, that strong floor. But
then when you have teachers who are just doing an
exceptional job when it comes to moving the needle in
terms of academic performance and outcomes for their students. They
(07:34):
should be rewarded for that. And so that's what that
strategic compensation pilot does, is that it rewards teachers who
are who are really having incredible success moving the needles,
specifically in our rural communities and in you know, high
poverty schools where sometimes it's it's harder, it's more of
a challenge because these students are maybe starting at a
(07:57):
place of disadvantage, and those teachers, they teach their heart
out every single day, and we think that ought to
be rewarded.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Well, I know, as we look for ways to incentivize
teachers to want to work in our schools and certainly
show up every day. Can you tell me were you
aware of or do you know of now? Since we're
five weeks into what they say is a nine week
pilot program in Charleston County where they're actually paying twenty
five dollars to the families of students to attend, and
(08:23):
this is supposed to help ward all for our absenteeism problem.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Absenteeism is a real problem, but I'm not sure that
the answer is paying students or families to combat it.
I think we've got to do a better job engaging
parents and educating them about the real challenges that their
students are going to face if they don't support their
students attendance in school. And then we also have to
(08:48):
do what we've called for, what I've called for since
I've been in this office, which is really engage in
the teaching of foundational skills that equip students to fully
engage in their learning. I think you have a lot
of students who are disengaged because maybe they're just not
as prepared as they need to be. And so that's
the whole idea behind our reading initiative, and you know,
(09:10):
so much else that we're doing with the cell phone
policy that we've talked about before, ensuring that students are
fully engaged in their learning, and helping parents understand why
it's so important that their child is there at school
every day.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Superintendent of Education Onlan Weaver, We've got to go quickly.
But lastly, what are you doing for the summer to
try to help kids not regress?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Well, you know, we have summer reading camps which are
part of South Carolina law that's actually a huge part
of the budget that the General Assembly is passing now
to help us increase access to those reading camps, not
just for struggling third graders, but for first and second
graders before they get to that important third grade gateway
and are still struggling. So I'm very, very excited about that.
(09:52):
And I also wanted to share that today is actually
the day that we are going to be naming our
South Carolina Teacher of the Year, which is a huge
celebration at the Governor's mansion. Governor McMaster and Miss Peggy
are always there and of course Max the Bulldog to
help us celebrate just the incredible gift that our teachers
are here in South Carolina to our students. So I'm
(10:15):
really excited for the future of education in South Carolina.
Here in South Carolina, we're going to keep calm and
educate on Thank.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
You so much for your time today. This is a
big week for our kids. Thank you for heading all
those programs up and helping us keep it on track.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
It is truly a joy to be able to do
this work, and I appreciate you all allowing me the
opportunity to let your listeners know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
And as we talked about money for South Carolina school
there's a lot of talk about money this week with
the General Assembly having to do with the budget building,
get into some of that. Kelly wants to get close
to the senator's heart.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Well, you know, they've got an idea on how to
drain the swamp, and it might not be the answer
you thought of.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Next The Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan Rush back in
twenty sixteen, just thirty eight percent of voters wanted the
government that to try at the port all eleven million
undocumented immigrants. Compared to where we are.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
In twenty twenty five fifty six.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Percent the majority. Kelly Nash and I think that's a
big part of the reason why Americans are increasingly saying
the country is on the right track. The Jonathan and
Kelly Show plainly there's a lot of ground we can
cover in segment three having to do with the updates
on deportations.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, I mean, there's always so much going on with
Trump and the lawfair that goes not just against Trump,
actually against the country.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I did account today have a total count of the
lawsuits currently going on. We'll get into some of that
coming up in segment three. Here in South Carolina, the
General Assembly and we talked about one of our rast
thoughts earlier in the week. Thank you for listening during
the week and also to our podcast we put up
Monday through Thursday. We record this program on Friday, So
we can't speak specifically as to what the General Assembly
(11:49):
will have for news on Saturday morning having to do
with the budget, but there are a lot of different
aspects of the argument going on between the House and
the Senate.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Well, yeah, in the Senate versions of the budget, two
billion dollars of spending, which is fantastic, But they did
vote to give three million dollars more to a little
project they like to call themselves. That vote came down
twenty four to fifteen for the senators to increase. Now
it's actually not a salary increase, just so we're we're
(12:18):
speaking clearly. Get to pay raise, Yeah, there's they They
received ten four hundred dollars a year as their salary.
That has not changed since nineteen ninety. Now they get
stipends as well. They get one thousand dollars a month
which is meant for their legislative duties that can be
spent on anything that they consider to be their legislative duties.
(12:40):
They also get another thousand dollars a month for whi's
called in district compensation. That thousand dollars is what they
actually voted on. The in district compensation went from one
thousand to twenty five hundred, so that goes from twelve
grand a year to thirty grand a year. And that's
what everybody's talking about.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
It's a lot of things that they do in district
media with the constituents and the like, and there's a
lot of expenses that go along with that. I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, there's a guy named Matt Leeber who's a senator
who's from the low Country, and you know, I laugh
when I say it because it just seems funny, But
I don't think that he's wrong. If you're trying to
drain the swamp, this is one of the ways to
do it, and it's to offer well. As he pointed out,
let me just get to his thing about where he said,
(13:29):
if you're a blue collar guy, you couldn't afford this job.
You just cannot afford to take this job. Now, inside
this story that's in the Post and Courier, he says,
and I'm just reading from here, Lieber, who works in
real estate, says he has not been able to do
many deals now that have probably cost him roughly three
hundred thousand dollars the last two years. But with the
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money he's not making, he's also spending more. He says
he's forced to incur unanticipated expenses like security now as
the left gets more and more riled up when he
has any kind of an appearance. So he has proposed
a bill that would allow lawmakers one thousand dollars a
month for bodyguards or security. He also points out that
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he is now personally drained one third of his savings,
so he's a third less more valuable today than he was,
and he goes this has me seriously contemplating, well, will
I run for reelection or not? Although this little bump
will be helpful, it's not the kind of money that
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he's giving up in order to be there.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, it's not going to replace the amount of money
he mentions that he's losing, and he's right. I mean,
if you're a blue collar worker and you don't have
the opportunity, let's say you want your own law firm
or insurance agency or your own big, huge company. At
this point, you can't just take off and go for
the session to Columbia, leave somebody else to run your business.
So this is one of the things that as he says,
(14:56):
if you look at a drain the swamp, we want
to get regular people in, but regular people have regular jobs.
So I get it. And there are certainly expenses that
at one thousand dollars for your in district expenses, you
could see them burning through that pretty quick. So just
traveling with your car would take care of that, and
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then the other would be obviously for and more expensive
than others. Some for others. If you were representing like Salem,
South Carolina, if you lived in Salem and you're traveling
to Columbia, there's no easy way to get there. There's
a lot of miles in your car. If you live
in Lexington now it's so expensive to be at a
travel back and forth, or your stipend's not necessarily the problem.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, and it's funny that Shane Massey, who is the
Senate majority leader, actually voted against this, and he said
and he used the phrase pay raise. He says, I
don't think that there should have been a pay raise
passed through our budget. So he's staunchly against it, although
he will benefit from it. If and I guess that's
already been passed by the Senate, so I don't think
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you'll need the House now. The House is considering it,
and according to an interview they did with the House
Majority Leader Davey Hyatt, Republican, pickens It says he seems
amused by the proposal. He said, we'll have to see
what happens. It's been talked about quite a while around
here for the House members, but we've never seen it
get this far in the process. So we're just gonna
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have to see where we are.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
And that's just one of the aspects of the budget
that I'm sure by Saturday morning when this is broadcast,
you'll be very heard about something maybe on the news
last night or reading about the headline this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah. Yeah, we're not the breaking news show here on
Saturday mornings. We are the let's take a look at
what's actually happened. I think that it's exciting for them.
I do believe that this will help attract better candidates
kind of like what we talked about, was it like
four years ago, three years ago when they upped the
salary for pretty much all of the elected officials at
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like the state level, so I think the I know
the attorney general got a pay.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Raise Offtie talked about the pay raise that we're given
for the treasurer.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, and boy, that Curtis loftus. You know, it'll be
interesting to see what his path is moving forward, because
the House does not seem as if they're going to
take up the vote to remove him, although the Senate
overwhelmingly voted to remove him. I think he got eight
votes in favor of him, right, And he said that's
eight more than I expected.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And he wanted to step down anyway, because he said,
we finally gotten the salary level to a point where
we can get somebody really qualified to take this position.
And Curtis was at much like some of the Senators
and House members, he was in a position where he
could serve as a public service.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
He's independently wealthy.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yes, so, but now that all this dust up has come,
he's going to run for the office again, because if
we're going to try this in the streets, we're going
to take it to the people.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, he says, you've sullied my good name. You know,
dang well, that I was not responsible. He was responsible
for accounting for all the money not which accounts they
were in. That's his defense. It was up for the comptroller,
Richard Eckstrom to decide which accounts they were in. He's
the one who lost the one point eight billion dollars.
(18:02):
The one point eight billion dollars was never missing, according
to Curtis Loftus. Even if he did make a mistake,
some of the senators who voted to keep him said
the mistake was not egregious enough that it would reach
the threshold to remove for the first time in the
state's history, an elected official. The people put him there,
(18:24):
the people can remove them in eighteen months, but you
would have to actually commit a crime to be removed,
and he didn't commit a crime.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So as the week continues. Next week we'll get more headlines,
we can talk about more things we actually can say
concretely as we move forward for the state's expenditures and
our budget for the coming year. All right, coming up
in just a second, we're going to get into the
swamp talk, and then we will save all the Nancy
Mays talk until say.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Is it foul mouthed?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
We may have to beat ourselves.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
We'll be heavily censored.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
The Jonathan end Kelly show, Jonathan Rush.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I think at some point the president of Al Salvador
realized it was looking really bad.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Kelly Nash to have this America, that this person who
had been absconded from America from the streets of Maryland,
Kelly Show, that was one of my favorite moments. Pretty
hard to pick your favorite moment. When Democrats start speaking
as they are defending gang members who have been deported
and they want to bring them back. Senative in Hell
almost called him an American citizen there had to pull
(19:29):
up quick to retrieve it. Those words American, Shay, Well,
you know he's excrem. He's got a right to be here,
all right. So we got more Democrats head of another.
They're going all over the place. Down in Louisiana. I've
forgotten the House members showed have yesterday with the Eastern outfit,
but it was quite quite, quite tracting. She got everybody's attention.
(19:51):
I'm not sure what she was saying. I have to
go back and see if I can get a transcript
of the word she was trying to use. She was out,
she was so outraged, she couldn't speak. She's like, Alin,
we have so much to cover here in such a
few short minutes for our Swamp Talk. This is Friday
when we record this, and we just read the news
where the Department of Justice just arrested another judge. We
(20:12):
had one earlier in the week who apparently had to
invite a couple of gang members in to live in
his house.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I'm gonna literally just say he's a gang member. As
the Prownce trained to Agua, he had three gang members
living in his home. The videos show him passing around
high powered weapons with these three in his house, laughing
it up, sharing cocktails together with the gang bangers. He
was arrested. First he quit, he resigned, Then on Wednesday
(20:44):
he was disbarred for life, and then Thursday he was
arrested along with his wife. So they're all in jail.
And then this morning the breaking news out of Milwaukee.
Is that or excuse me, Wisconsin. I'm not sure exactly. Oh,
it is. Milwaukee County judge Hannah Dugan was arrested in
(21:05):
her own courtroom as proceedings were about to begin this morning.
I hope that there's video of this later on. In
my mind, I like to imagine it as she walks
into the room and the bailiff or whatever. He yells out,
all rise for the honorable Judge, Hannah Dugan and then
somebody says, is that Hannah Dugan right there? And they're like,
(21:28):
who's talking? Ice agents and they came in and I
could see her saying, you know, bailiffs, stop them and
there's like ten of them and they're like, Judge, hands
behind your back, you are gonna need a lawyer, now, Judge,
you need a lawyer. And they cuffed her and stuffed her.
And this is because I guess it was late last month.
(21:48):
She had an illegal in her in for a pre
trial conference on three misdemeanor battery charges. ICE showed up
to arrest him, and the court officials told the ICE agents,
you can't enter and arrest him until this proceeding is over.
So they waited outside the courtroom. Somebody told the judge.
(22:10):
The judge then snuck him out a side.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Door at a secret entrance to escape the building to
evade the ICE agents.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Now, thankfully, the ICE agents caught wind of it and
somehow ran this guy down, so they did arrest him
that day. He's been in jail ever since, and I
guess Cash Pattel and the crew have been thinking do
we want to charge her? And they came to the conclusion.
I guess last night we're arresting her. I liked that
they didn't do it at her house. Yeah, humiliate her
(22:38):
as much as possible. And as she walks in as
the judge, everybody has to rise when I walk.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
In, recognizing my full authority.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Well do I have to wear my robe for the mugshot?
Can I take the robe off for the mugshot?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
It is a great video.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I hope we have it. That's almost better than the scene.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Did you order the cord red?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You damn right?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
What is it with these liberal judges and there with
the crime, their love of illegal activities and gang bangers,
and they're just obsessed with destroying America.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
The Democrats are proving the Republicans are the party of
law and order. The Democrats are the party of criminal justice.
We got to get more justice for these criminals, and
they'll fly to El Salvador to do it.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And the justice officials that are Democrats are in fact criminals,
it seems. I mean, the way they've infiltrated our entire
system is amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And now they don't have the reigns of the doj
plainly and how many lawsuits? I went and counted it up. Today.
I found a web page that is updated minutely according
just scrolling through it, and I was he had to
scroll for a while. Brother, There are currently two hundred
and eight lawsuits launched against the Trump administration. Two hundred
(23:55):
and eight.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Now, is that a lot? I don't know, as that's
a lot. I'm not saying that sarcastically because I remember,
like one time we had Alan Wilson on our Attorney
general for South Carolina. He was talking about they have
somebody on staff whose only job it is is to
continually file suits against Joe Biden's administration.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, of the two hundred and eight that I counted,
there were three that have been closed, but we have
two hundred in eight open case And I don't know
how to compare that, but I know that we do
a lot of comparison when Trump's in office, as opposed
to like, for instance, with the Putin conversation. Now they
want to make sure that Ukraine is able to reclaim CRIMEA.
Wait a minute, Obama handed over CRIMEA.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It seems though that whenever there's a any kind of action,
executive order, whatever, that could help the country or needs
to help the country. You know, you're looking at the
what was it, the Alien Act or whatever it was called,
the way terrorists. Yeah, so okay, so that is approved
as constitutional by the Supreme Court. So Donald Trump can
(24:52):
use that power. And it says that once somebody is
in a group that's identified as a terrorist organization, they
can be immediately deported because they are considered a high
risk to all Americans. Well, now you've got one circuit
liberal nut job judge who says, well, they need at
least twenty one days heads up. Well, that defeats the
(25:15):
whole purpose of letting a criminal somebody who's out to
kill you. Hey, listen, before we deport you, you got
twenty one days to think it over. Maybe do the
whatever the terrorist activity was that you were thinking about doing.
Maybe kind of push up that cycle on us a
little bit. Anything that comes across their desk, it's good
for the country. They stamp it rejected.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
It's truly amazing when you look at over the past.
During the four years of the Biden administration, the law
fair was all targeted exclusively to DJT. Now the lawfare
is targeted against us because when they file against the
Trump administration for doing things that he campaigned on. We're
going to deport illegals, and we're going to start with
(25:57):
the worst of the worst. And there's been nothing but
law suit at the lawsuit, at the lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
They're all hanging their hopes on this one guy from
Maryland who you know. Last week, Trump tweeted out the
photo you know, for somebody who has nothing to do
with them as thirteen. It's ironic that he would have
an MS thirteen on his knuckles, Like why would you
tattoo that?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And it is amazing that it really didn't do a
great job of vetting this guy. I mean, it's bad
enough his criminal activity, then you bring in the personal stuff.
I mean, we even got the lawsuits now, or the
restriction orders that were ordered in the court because of
his wife's allegations of domestic dispute. There's more and more
and more stuff comes out, but they're going to stick
with it, brother, because they're all in now.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Well, I want to find who in the FBI made
the call back in what was it twenty twenty two
or whatever it was, when he was accused of human trafficking.
He got pulled over in Tennessee. He's in a van
that is not his. It's got I think they said
eight passengers in it. Nobody has any luggage, he says.
(26:58):
I'm driving from Houston to Maryland and the cop pulled
them over, I think for speeding or maybe whatever it was.
But he immediately suspects this is human trafficking. Why does
nobody have any luggage here? Where are you all going? Well,
he says, they're going to work for my boss up
in Maryland on a construction site. So where's your address?
They all give the same address, which is his. He
(27:22):
calls it into his bosses, and the bosses run a
trace on the vehicle. That vehicle is registered to someone
who pled guilty to human trafficking? Who is the boss
that they're identifying as who they're going to go to
work for? And then because they checked that car, somehow
it penned. The FBI and the Tennessee State troopers said,
(27:45):
we got a phone call while the stop was happening
from the FBI saying, the federal government orders you to
let them go. What the hell was that? Who made
that call? Those heads need to roll.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I got to feel were going to get an answer
for that. If we're walking in the courtrooms arresting judges
while they're on the bench. We're going to find out
what's going on in the FBI office wherever that ping
popped up and somebody disregarded that are dismissed.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well, is that a protected vehicle? That license plate? You
ruled that license plate.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
In prairie protection status?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
What the hell is going on in America?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And then all the salivating going on with the Democrats.
The biggest concern now is not the Trump administration, is
what the hell AOC and Bernie Sanders are going to
take over our party? They're getting all their good polling
out of the Democrat constituency.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, they are. And I don't know if you saw
AOC's ad. I mean they call it an AOC Bernie ad.
AOC put it up late Thursday night. That is a
good ad. That is a powerful ad. And you know
she's talking about we've got to unite this country. It
doesn't work if there's you know, blacks versus whites, Latinos
versus Asians, Democrats versus Republicans, people from the big city
(28:52):
versus people in the rural areas, the farmers and the
people in the cities. We all need to be united
around this great flag of ours and build this nation.
And as a former waitress standing here talking to an
arena filled with people from this podium, I can tell
you the American dream is alive today and I am
the embodiment of it, and it is possible for anybody
(29:14):
in America to be great. Let's do it together. And
the music's playing, the crowd is going wild, and it's like,
holy crap. You know she hates America, right, yeah, you
get that part. And at one point she said, you
just need the faith of a mustard seed. And Christian's
ears all perk up when you hear faith of a
mustard seed. And what she says in that next does
not have anything to do with God. She pause. Remember
(29:36):
they removed God in twenty twelve. God was kicked out
of the Democrat Party in twenty twelve. But she says,
you just need to and every one of you, you
represent the mustard seeds, and with your faith in yourselves
and each other, we can win back America.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
And people listening to this podcast are going, wait a minute,
don't didn't we see even back with beginning of Barack Obama,
everybody realized that they were all here to divide us
against ourselves. They had to make sure everybody stayed in
their tribe. And you have a reason to hate the
other tribe. And everybody was hating on each other. But
now they're going to bring you all together. Can't everybody
see the camouflage? Well, no, because they've been watching the
six thirty evening news.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Listen, how about this. We got a case going on
right now in South Carolina that is also kind of
a national story. We've got Democrats who don't want to
take an oath to the Constitution. You know what, I
bet you if we asked AOC, should senators and congressmen
and the president have to swear an oath of the Constitution?
(30:32):
Not that one, not the one written by the white supremacists.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And now that we're having apparently a lot of fun
on MSNBC and CNN about some of the dust up
and disagreements and the Trump administration, particularly with Elon Musk
having to do with Besset. Supposedly the screaming matches that
are going on, this is what it sounds like when
doves cry. Why are we screaming at each other? You know,
I'm sure there always been disagreements in administrations. I don't
know what they were arguing about over in particular, but
(30:58):
I'm glad to know that the agreements going on. We
don't want one thought process just to run all the
way through. Somebody's got to stand up and point out
a problem if it's going to be coming down the pike.
I'm excited to hear that.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Look, if there's any knock on the Trump administration at
this point, I would think one of them would be
it's too transparent. You're seeing to You didn't see anything
in the Biden administration. You couldn't hear anything. Every once
in a while, you'd hear some sort of murmur about
somebody who used to work for the First Lady at
the time, Joe Biden thought she was a total whatever.
(31:29):
You didn't hear a whole lot of Joe Biden is
literally like the walking dead, Like you didn't hear that,
and we knew it. You could see the lack of
public appearances, and when you saw him just walk across
the lawn, you'd be like, that guy ain't right.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, I mean, they invite you to the Oval office,
and Trump is so comfortable in front of the canvas.
He just says things out loud. Yeah, we got some
criminals here in the US. Maybe we want to think
about sending the O Salvador. I don't know if that's.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Legal or not. Maybe I'll run for office in twenty
twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Hey, we were also seeing now as we talk more
about the Democrats and what's happening with their interior struggle,
Dick Durbin now stepping aside. Joe Biden's obviously out of
the picture. Nancy Pelosi is going to get pushed out.
You got a lot of the old guards starting to
fall away. President Hogg, as we have referred to him
for years now, because ever since the shooting where he
took the opportunity when he wasn't even in school that day,
(32:21):
to come in and start grabbing the camera, knew plainly
how to work the America media, and the American media
fell in love with him. So you've got this new
branch of the Democrat Party coming in to push him
even further left. As plainly, people are standing in applauding
socialism for Bernie Sanders and AOC. So it's going to
be interesting to see who else follows in the footsteps
of Dick Durbin.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, you know, you saw the CNN polls, and they
show that right now Alexandria O Kaeso Cortez outpolls Chuck
Schumer by I think about twelve points right now in
New York. So the Democrat Party has fallen like it
is gone. Like when you thought that they might be
the party of the working middle class and all that
(33:02):
that is over. They are there. We hate America. America
shouldn't be the best any of that stuff. We love illegals,
We want high crime. Like they're not even like really
upset about that case in California where the two and
they're migrant teens who are here legally, their parents came
here legally and they were killed by an illegal drunk
(33:23):
who had already been arrested earlier for murder and let
go by a California judge, deported twice, came back, kills
these kids, gets out in three years, and the California
Democrat Party, you're like, and that's that's what we want here.
We want chaos. And that's why when you look at
Alexandro Ocasio Cortez, you look at ilhan Omar. Ilhan Omar
(33:44):
gave a speech this week in which she said, if
we were to win the House and send it back,
I guarantee you we would be suing personally for money.
The Republicans who are in the Senate, the ones who
lie to you, they are all liars. Donald Trump and
every one of them's a liar. They would all have
to stand in front of judges that we have picked.
The judges we have picked, says ilhan Omar. We are
(34:05):
going to shut down this country, and she got a
standing ovation from ten thousand people.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Well, a lot of people are excited about it. The
first year they come to mind will be Ellen DeGeneres
and Rosie o'donald. They're very excited about possibly moving back
to the US.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I feel bad for Ken Martin, who's the DNC chair,
because he is now trying to act as if they're
in the middle. He's got to fight now with David
Hogg and Boss Hogg done told you. I'm fronting the
primary money to go after anybody who served more than
two or three times in Senate or whatever. I want
them out. I want new blood, I want people who
(34:37):
are more aggressive against the Republicans, and I'm going to
pay for it. I'm going to fundraise it and Ken
Martin's like, no, no, we're not doing that. Stand down,
David Hogg. I think he's going to come back this
weekend and say, you know what, you're not the You're
not the boss anymore. You're not the boss anymore. Bear,
you sit out on the palth ha ha.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
We got our own flare ups going over here in
the Republican Party in the state of South Carolina. But
get captured on video.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Next the Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan rush.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
L Salvador is the destination for Democrats seeking the thrill
of bringing violent, criminal, illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Back to America.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Kelly Nash come witness Trump derangement syndrome in its purest form.
Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
You know, I'd never considered El Salvador as being a
great spring or summer getaway.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
You know, it's interesting because you're not a Democrat. We
don't think like they think.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Oh, they're going to be busy over the weekend. I'm
sure we'd be talking about more of those trips. And
who's popping up with Is there a Democrat cruise lined
up yet?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
That sounds like all the blue haired, purple haired nut
jobs on a cruise ship together. They'd all have their
little protest signs as they cruised down to El Salvador.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Now, because we live in South Carolina, and I guess
maybe even people plugged in nationwide politically are used to
seeing Nancy Mace popping up on video. She'll certainly pop
up on a television screen whenever there's an opportunity for
her to have an interview, but we also see her
in some interesting videos. Now, this one I thought was
she was very proud to put it up. So I
don't know why I'm questioning her judgment on this, but
(36:08):
it seems like she might have just overbexponded a little bit.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, there's a she's at the Ulta in Mount Pleasant
buying I don't know, makeup or whatever, and she's asked
by a man who is recording it on his phone,
when is your next town hall event? And she took
offense to that. And obviously there's been a lot of
contention at Republican town halls. Democrats have been sabotaging these events,
(36:34):
and so she immediately jumped to, well, I've already had
a bunch of town halls. You should have come to
some of them. And he was like, I haven't asked
about your past town halls. I'm asking when is your
next one? And she really didn't like the tone then,
and so she starts and Jonathan, you've talked about this,
IQ points drop. You don't think clearly when you're angry,
(36:54):
and she was angry, so I don't know if she
meant to say it. But in the middle of that
little ring back towards them, she says, and just so
you know, I voted for gay marriage twice. And that's
an interesting position if you're considering a run for governor
of South Carolina as a Republicans the.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Greatest thing to brag about. But I guess she was
trying to be relatable. She could plainly tell by his
epidermal layer he was well moisturized.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Well that's how he signed himself off, a well moisturized constituent.
But the you know, again, she is obviously considering a
run for government. She's been in the last three or
four days. She's been in Columbia, Yep, Greenville, in North Augusta.
None of those are in her territory.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, who do you think you are, James Clyburn, You're
showing up in districts she don't represent.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Exactly, and you're having town halls there. Now, she did
have one in Beaufort area, which is I guess, well,
what's the name of the little place that she was at.
It's in her district. I guess they put Beaufort, but
it's actually called Detaw Island, which is a private, gated
community in her district. So she had that one on
April twenty third, that would have been what Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
You know. And I guess she's put up so many
videos where people might have second guessed that maybe she
just gets off on it.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Now I don't know.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
But when you start screaming FU to someone who we
believe to be a constituent or anybody on video, and
you're proud of that moment, you put it up and
now she's not gonna apologize, we had to come out
with another news story to make sure you knew that
that's what she is raw well, and.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
She'll also tell you that I'm what a sex abuse
survivor and all that. So I felt threatened and so on,
and so invaded her space. He I mean, it doesn't
look that way to me, even on her video like
the one that she posted it doesn't look like he's
in her space. He's like three or four feet from her.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
I know, if I see Nancy walking down the sidewalk,
I'm going to give her a wide berth. I'm going
to walk across the street. Make sure I don't come
close to evading her space.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Don't ask her any questions. Don't ask her any questions,
just nothing. Just tell her she looks good and beyond
be done with it. All right.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
We'll continue to track her as she videos herself and
puts it up online for us to review and make
this run towards the governor, although she hasn't officially announced yet.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
We're all weighted with baited breath on that one, aren't we?
And again, is the cornerstone of your platform going to be?
I voted for gay marriage twice as you try to
win a GOP primary.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
She staked out an interesting position in this cotton.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
No one else had gone for that.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
It's an interesting strategy. All right, South Carolina, help meself
for great Saturday. We'll be back Monday with a rash thought.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Did Jonathan m kelly show? That is our broadcast? Thank
you for being here with us. I'll show myself out
until we meet again in wvoz
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