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May 3, 2025 • 39 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan rush what.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
We've done is get violent criminals and other low lives
on the street. It's literally a murderer's row here on
the lawn of the White House. And these are people
that we've taken out of the country since we came
into office. Kelly Nash, We've reunited over five thousand children
with their families. Are a safeguardian. We're cleaning up our communities.
We're getting rid of all these guys.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
And Kelly Show, that could have been the line of
the week. Although it's sad to say, but true. At
a murderer's row over here, literally well a lot of
them were in fact murderers. Yeah, we can get into
some more of the talk about the fight going on
over the fight for the Democrat voters of the future.
We got to bring them back from El Salvador. More
details coming up on that in segment three. Hey, this

(00:44):
is Jonathan Rusher's Kelly Nash.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
We will talk maybe about that FBI phone call to
the Tennessee Police Department, the State Highway Patrol. Why is
Kilmar Abrego not under arrest for driving without a license, speeding,
swerving in and out of traffic. Apparently human smuggling. We'll
figure that out. FBI didn't want them arrested.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Now, we do have a lot of state news to cover.
Come up in segment four, we get a GOP divorce
of sorts. The family's got some problems. Well, the family
counsel will get into the day. Coming up, we do
have good news. And segment two, I'm excited about two
of the proposals for the education bills.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
What are the chances they get voted on?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's a good question.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
And given the threat that Jonathan mc kelly now could
actually be a teacher in your child's school room, they
may actually push it off the table until the next session.
Speaking of running out of time, let's talk about the
what's going on over the weekend. Well, that won't be
anything going on over the weekend, but on Tuesday when
our lawmakers come back in in particular in the State House,
as we're talking about the other day. Wow, the pushback

(01:46):
came fast and furious with the tax plan they proposed.
So they got another proposal.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Let's just go back to what you said there. The
pushback came and the House Ways and Means Committee voted
party line seventeen to six on a bill that was
announced about a month ago, and this was a way
for them to kind of flat tax lower taxes for
all South Carolinians. However, one analysis said that some people

(02:14):
would end up paying more, and I'm just reading now
from the paper. The pushback prompted House Republicans to put
that bill on hold and ask experts for a review
of options. Quote when you get resistance like that, you
pack up and try a different path, says Bruce Banister,

(02:35):
Republican Greenville.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yes, the critics were quote a lot louder than I expected.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Are you kidding me? This guy just surrendered because some
people were hemming and hawn and pissing and moaning.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well, they came out with a new plan. Under the
new proposal, the first thirty thousand dollars of residence taxble
income will be taxed at one point nine to nine percent,
with every dollar after that at a rate of five
point three nine percent.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
So that is a definite lowering of the taxes, because
right now the top tax rate is I don't want
to say significantly higher, but it is at six point
three I think, And that is for anybody making over
seventeen three point thirty. Once you make seventeen thousand, three
hundred and thirty bucks, you go into that's what they
call the upper earners tax bracket. And if you're making

(03:24):
under seventeen three thirty but above thirty five hundred dollars,
you're paying three percent. So both of those tax rates
are lower, and you hang on to that one point
nine to nine percent far into you know, because it
was originally into what seventeen thousand or so, This is
all the way up to thirty grand. So everybody's getting
a tax break, Jonathan, Is that the way you read it?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
But we also have the caveat here. We've been pushing
for our flat tax, or at least a continuation of
the reduction of tax. Assuming the state's population and the
economy continue to grow at the current rate, the top
rate would be reduced by approximatelyighto point two percent each
year that the state eight season a five percent increase
in tax revenues.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
So if the state makes more money, we're going to
lower the amount that we have to pay, which should
incentivize more people to move here, which again the next
year would trigger another tax cut.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I like it now, but here's a kicker, Well, residents
in the lower six figure range and the lowest income
levels would pay more. Pardon me, yes, the highest and
the lowest would pay more. Those increases would be modest,
with an average increase of less than fifty dollars for
earners making less than thirty thousand dollars per year.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
I'm struggling to understand the math here. So if I
was making let's just say twenty five thousand dollars, like
right now this year, I'm making twenty five thousand dollars,
I'm going to pay three percent on the first seventeen thousand,
and then I'm going to pay six point three percent
on the rest of that. So what was that?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Like?

Speaker 4 (04:57):
We never do math on the radio, but say another
eight thousand dollars slightly lower, again, that would be six
point three percent in three percent, And you're telling me
that when I go to one point nine to nine
percent and five point nine percent that somehow I'm paying
more money.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
We don't do math on the radio, and we're not
an economist, and I took one semester of accounting, and
we won't hear from doctor Joey yvon Nessen, who will
hear about hopefully next week talking about the jobs numbers.
He'll tell you up front, I can't give you an analysis.
I don't have time to while away the hours and
all these proposals. I got to wait until it's law,
until I can come out with our assessment from the

(05:34):
Darla Moore School of Business at the University of South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I just I'm baffled how when you cut both tax rates,
somehow somebody ends up paying more. This just seems like
some sort of expert BS that's supposed to be above
all of our heads.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
It seems to be.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
The outrage is is that the lower income earners will
be asked to pay fifty dollars more per year.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
But I don't get it. If they're ten went from
three percent to one point nine percent, how could it
possibly be more money for anybody?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, I can tell you this, if you stand up
and start criticizing, Banister will come back with a different plan,
apparently because he doesn't like the heat.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Okay, So, and if I remember right in that article
again written by experts, I think that they said it's
going to cost the state roughly four hundred million dollars.
Is that right? In revenues that we annually collect and
they pointed out in there that we already take in
more than four hundred million dollars in excess fees.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
We have had surpluses every year.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
For like the last decade or so. So here's a thought,
whoever is getting hit with a fifty dollars tax bill
and extra whatever that And I don't know who that
would be, but if there, if that person exists, they
could apply for a fifty dollars credit. We'll just take
out another what are we talking about, ten thousand dollars

(06:59):
for the whole I don't know how that math maths,
but if there is, if that person exists, the state
of South Carolina will pick up your extra fifty dollars.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
You know, at the end of the year, you just
wait and hear what thedor says you owe in taxes
and you just send that amount of money if they
didn't extract enough out of your paycheck. And now apparently
it's gone by the wayside, the flat tags we're talking
about at one point nine to nine percent, because the
article at least in the Posting Courier pointed out that
those critics and they actually give you the link to
the left leaning economist as it was described in the paper.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
That's one of the rare times they will point out
that somebody who's supposed to be neutral, somebody like an
economist is supposed to be centers, kind of like a
newspaper supposed to be in the middle of the road.
But in this one they point out, at least here
this is a left leaning communist socialist economists.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
That's right, And you can go there and read about
why they support the progressive tax structures as we're trying
to discern exactly what that means and the math in
between the two proposals, and actually it'll be three proposals
by ten ocl on Tuesday morning. But if you ever
get to a flat tax, you're going to go by
the way of the buffalo who all went to Kansas
to die, because later in the article it tells you
that Kansas went to a flat tax, they saw massive

(08:11):
cuts to public service, and recently set the state on
a course to a crew a half billion dollars in
debt by twenty twenty eight eight.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
So they don't have a half billion dollars in debt
right now.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
North Carolina went to a flat tax and they're already
having challenges, so plainly, you can't do a flat tax.
Are you going to die broke like a buffalo in Kansas?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
It would seem usually whenever North Carolina does something, liberals
love it. But this is one of tho But could
we not learn from whatever they're doing in North Carolina?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
It seems like maybe you could just tweak the system
slightly and again, you want to make taxes easy to understand.
One of the big, huge problems with government is bureaucracy
and these levels of just trying to confuse people so
that you just throw your hands up in the air
and go, I'll just pay whatever I owe, just get

(09:04):
me out of this point.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yes, just to exacerbate our frustration, none of this matters
until Tuesday morning at ten o'clock because we don't even
know what's going to happen. The whole thing could be
thrown out the window and we'll come up with the
different plans.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
And doesn't the session end like next week? Yes, so
we're down to like the last few hours to pass this.
Your long for homework has to be turned down by
the eight and when we say it's got to be
turned in, you also got to vote and pass it.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Exactly, speaking of voting and pass and let's talk about
some of these education items have been brought to the table.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
We're kind of excited about this.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Class begins next the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Jonathan Rush, what's.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
The problem is that a radical left lunatic all I
get about.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I'm sorry, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I thought it was a guy Kelly Nash and she
now has to go home to a mother who's a
big Trump fan.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Oh, most people there at the one hundred day celebration
for Donald Trump and Michigan pretty happy about having him there.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Person was not.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
And now that we've gotten through the first one hundred days,
we get a couple of things to cover coming up
in segment three, including a big broadcast. Yeah believe it
was last night on MSNBC. I think it was Ari
Meilber was hosting the first one hundred days. Law and
Disorder now comes the real description of the first one
hundred days of Donald Trump's administration.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Two things on that. One was the polls that CNN
came out with that they did after the one hundred days,
that shows that Donald Trump still beats Kamala Harris and
Donald Trump still beats just about every Democrat they've got
that they could run. And two, if y'all want to
do some real journalism, you figure it out. CNN, you
figure it out, MSNBC. Don't let Fox News or OAAN

(10:45):
or Newsmax or some website like the Daily Caller find
this out. What the hell did the FBI say to
the Tennessee State Patrol to let kill mar Abrego go
once they ran the plates and found out it was
to a convicted human trap and then the FBI suddenly
call him and saying, you gotta let him go, let
him go. I have to thank Senator van Halen slash

(11:09):
van Hollend von Holland, because otherwise I wouldn't know the
name Kilmar Abrego Garcia, and I certainly wouldn't have known
as much as I know about him now, but I
definitely would not have known. This guy is not even
the tip of the iceberg, Kelly says, spec on the iceberg?
How many thousands of human traffickers were let go because

(11:30):
the FBI made the phone call you gotta let him go?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Man? That video set him on fire. He can't even
wait to segment three to get into all of that. Hey,
this is Jonath Rush, here's Kelly Nash. We had to
go dig in for information about something we learned about.
A Senate Bill seventy eight and Senate Bill seventy nine
A South Carolina would possibly amend a law to credit
prior work experience, regular private sector work experience for people

(11:56):
to actually obtain and then help by getting their teaching
certificate and apply that in a public school.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
So if you've already had a job, you've worked twenty
thirty forty years, and you still want to be a
teacher currently, I guess you have to go back to
school and get teaching certificate. And then you come in
with no experience, right, so your bottom of the totem pole.
You're also making the least amount of money. What this
bill would do is for every two years that you

(12:23):
had of real work experience that applies to the field
that you're teaching, you would get a year of teaching credit.
And you could also get your certificate while you're teaching.
So you could come like you and I, we each
have forty plus years of radio broadcast whatever, so we
could go in as a teacher with twenty years experience

(12:44):
and get our certificate while we're teaching.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
That's why I looked it up to make sure I'm
not speaking off the top of my hat here, because
I'm telling you, Kelly Nash could actually be instructing your
child in a classroom in high school in the state
of South Carolina. For instance, in the media technology available
in most schools, the curriculum extends basic production, exploring related
areas like graphic design, broadcast journalism. You have done so

(13:09):
much online media development, two different ways that Kelly could
be teaching your kid. We talked to CEOs all the
time about they want to get more involved with the
kids in the actual classroom in the schools so that
they can reach these kids and point out in particular
with STEM because there's so much technology, engineering, and math
coming to our state. Look at the number of companies

(13:29):
that are growing here from Google and the like, and
then all of the other technology through AI is helping
people like the Mercedes actually make better engines. There are
ways for us to identify students who have a particular bend,
or at least expose those students in such a way
that they realized they could have a career stepping on
the moon or through AI creating brand new robotics and

(13:53):
the like. Well, this will be an incredible way to
take persons with the experience in any of those fields
and get them into the classroom. So I'm sure that
CEOs are excited about this opportunity for people to share
their real life experience. And one of the pushbacks has
always been, even at a collegiate level, you got book since,
but you don't have any real world sense. We'll bring
in real world sense, possibly through this bill. If the

(14:14):
amendments go through into the classroom for high school students.
It excites me a lot to hear about this opportunity.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Well, obviously you got to think outside the box. This
is something where what we're doing isn't working. We do
not have enough teachers. That is a universally agreed upon statement.
And it's not just a South Carolina issue. That's in America.
We don't have enough people who are willing to take

(14:41):
up education as a profession. I'm sure it's not an
easy profession. I never felt called to be an educator.
I didn't want to do that, but there's a group
of people who do. There's just not enough of you.
So for the educator, some of them get a little
protective of their industry, and they're like, well, you don't
be Let as many people who are interested at any

(15:03):
level come in and let them get the certificate while
they're working. You don't want to put up walls, you
want to put up bridges. You want to get these
people into the classrooms and help as much as possible.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Well, as you mentioned in the article, it states plainly
some educators express concerns that while the intent is to
attract skill professionals into the teaching field, it may inadvertently
undermine the rigorous training and qualifications that traditional teaching preparation
programs provide.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
I get it. Look, whenever you try to do something,
give you an example, deregulation. The reason we want deregulation
is because the more regulation you have in anything, the
slower it goes and the harder it is for people
to get into that field. When you look at like
regulation on housing, that we're trying to deregulate housing because

(15:50):
we don't have enough housing right now. That means that
there are going to be some crappy houses that are
built that will be dealt with when it happens, But
in the meantime, you're trying to speed up the process
of building homes because we have people who can't get
into a house right now.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Well, what do you say to the teachers are going
to see Kelly Nash, teacher Kelly Nash coming down the
hall way. I'm not coming to twenty years of broadcast
journalism and online media development. Now, you got twenty years
credited to you as a teacher. I've been working here
for five years. You ain't taught a day, and you
got twenty years experience according to this bill.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I understand that that might make you envious. You know,
you might be upset that I have been promoted up
the ladder quicker than you. To quote man start, I
had to bail out it. But you know, look, I
get it. I mean people get envious for things like that.
But can that person with twenty years or forty years
of experience in the field of whatever it is that

(16:46):
they've been working on, can they add value to this
kid's educational experience more than having them sit in a
classroom with seventy other students.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
How many people back in the day, when you were
in high school or maybe in middle school, they brought
in a couple of people to during career day. You
literally heard them speak for about twenty minutes, and you
had about twenty minutes to ask questions of the three
people they put on the stage. If it's important that
it's bringing in for a half day to try to
give them an opportunity to peek through the keyhole of

(17:15):
the real world and the job opportunities behind that door.
How much better would it be if we had real
life professionals not just spending twenty minutes, but actually spending
time with your kids to explain how they could go
on to be whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, and if you're like a retiree right now and
you're thinking, well, you know, I was maybe considering going
back to school and teaching, but I don't know if
I want to go to college, go through all the
effort and then get started two years down the road. Well,
here's an opportunity for you to get started this coming fall.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I'm very excited about this opportunity. I hope they move
on these proposals and actually make that.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Part of it. That'd be great for our students.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Go us all right now, Well, let's get into Kelly's
video which set him off, and if he wants to
talk more about it in Sigma three coming up, and
some of the other problems going on in DC with
immigration and the like.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
In the lawsuits, maybe I.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Should count it the last week, it's more two hundred
lawsuits against the Trump administrations.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Let me go see how many we've added in.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Next, The Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan Rush.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Please allow me, friends to digress for a moment.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Who saw that video from a couple of weeks ago,
the one of the elephants at the San Diego Zoo.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
During the earthquake, Kelly Nash.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Everybody's asking me what you've been thinking about these days? Well,
the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Now, that was just part of a speech that Kamala
had the other day where many were touting the return
of the candidate Kamala Harris.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
So does this mean that she's officially running for governor
of California?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Well, according to the talking heads, she might as well
be at least the governor of California totally for the
presidency again in twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
I mean, you know, I think a lot of Republicans
would like to see her run for president in twenty
twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I would, And you know, I got to give her
this and that, you know, it was an interesting video
and how animals respond to things that attacked their herd.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
A group of elephants is called a herd.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
So they all got into a circle, right, and they
were all pointed looking outward.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Ye while the calfs is the baby elephants.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
And kind of like what you might think a lot
of conservatives here in America or patriots did when we
saw all these people come across the southern border, which
we tried to protect ourselves and we're hoping somebody was.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Going to protect us. We're going to do that.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
So yeah, but they don't draw that analogy. They don't
draw a totally different analogy. As they show her describing
what she's been doing since she didn't win the president,
she's been at home drinking wine and watching YouTube videos
speaking of animals. I know everybody's excited today because later
today on Saturday, as we recorded this on Friday, all

(19:55):
the journalists are placing their bets on a horse named journalism. Okay,
this is supposed to be a great moment for them.
We're all cheering for journalism to win. And isn't it
ironic that as they portrayed this as being like somehow
mascot for the journalism in America that when the horses
come out of the gate and they start turning left,
that's just like the journalists.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
They come out the gates and it's left left.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Donald Trump made a couple of the great appearances we
mentioned and played a little bit back from his ceremony
for the graduates at Alabama. That was an incredible moment,
I thought, and Kelly pointed out the great lessons in
life that he and Nick Saban shared.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Nick Saban gave a great speech if you haven't seen
that yet, but I did appreciate him saying that, you know,
if you're going to be really successful in life, you
have to be willing to I think he said something like,
break the system, whatever's currently happening. If you're willing to
push it beyond what it's been doing, you're going to
get a lot of enemies, and people who have a
vested interest in that are going to try to hang

(20:54):
on to what they've got. Sure, and he said they're
culosure you get to success, the more vehemently will fight you.
And he said, you know, in my first term, look
at all these internet guys. They all hated me now
Elon Musk and the rest of them, they're all kissing
my butt.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I thought it was pretty funny that he was asked
to speak at Alabama. Meanwhile, he's now taking all the
funding away from Harvard.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Now, yeah, I don't think he'll be getting invited to Harvard.
Probably not going to be on Sesame Street either. Defunded
the NPR and PBS on Friday.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Many people are talking about the fact that, you know,
this past administration, we did have our first pullback. I
guess most people are saying, this is the embarrassment for
the Trump administration. You had to take Mike Walls out
of his position to the National Security Advisor.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
And then give him a promotion.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
It is going to be interesting.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
The Democrats are salivating for their opportunity to actually use
their Senate confirmation hearings for his un ambassador nomination to
drag him through the mud. They got to find a
way to get Pete. Were you surprised that Trump doubled
down big salute to Pete the other day on the
broadcast cabinet meeting.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
If you are loyal to Trump, he will be loyal
to you. I think that's I mean, that's one of
the reasons some people love him, and another reason that
some on the left do not like him because it's
ironic because they're coming back with the it's not merit based,
which has kind of been your whole plan forever. Like,

(22:23):
we don't want merit based. We want people to re
to get favoritism. That's what the left wants. And if
Donald Trump does it, and I don't know if he
is or isn't, I don't know if Pete Hegseth is
the best ever Secretary of Defense or if there's a
better one out there that he could have had. But
even if he's not, that's who Donald Trump favorited. And
you're upset about it.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
We have a competition in celebrations and productions coming up, Kelly,
because on June fourteenth, Kelly points out, first and foremost,
that's flag.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Day, Donald Trump's birth It.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Is Donald Trump's birthday. And now, just like Kim Jong oong,
he wants to have a military parade through the streets
of Washington. The left is outraged, We're going to spend
all this money they have a military parade for Donald
Trump's birthday. It's as if you're marching it straight through
North Korea.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Okay, So I would have to say that Donald Trump
recognizes something better than most politicians get, and that is
the significance of appearances, which is ironic because they always
make fun of how he appears, the big orange man,
where's the tie too long? Whatever? But Donald Trump gets
it that when you have a parade, people turn out

(23:32):
for parades, and why because they want to be Usually
it's because they want to be proud of something. Let's
look at the Gay Pride parade. They are very proud
of being gay. Look at your Memorial Day parade. They're
proud of the people who've sacrificed. Look at the Labor
Day parade, we're proud of the American worker.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Here in Columbia, web when the largest Veterans Day parades,
people turn out for that and drove absolutely.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
So here's an opportunity on Flag Day, which is not
only the birthday of Donald Trump, I should point out,
it's also the birthday of the Army. The US Army
was born on June fourteenth as well. This is the
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the US Army. So
this would be a great opportunity for the nation to
celebrate its army and it builds national pride. One of

(24:18):
the big problems with this country for many years now
is we have not been putting pride into particularly younger people.
Like when I grew up in the seventies and eighties. Look,
you can call it propaganda if you want, but like
the Rocky movies and Top Gun and all of those
types of shows, the A Team whatever, they were all
proud of America. So I grew up proud of America.

(24:42):
A lot of kids today are growing up and they're
saying our country sucks. We stole our way to the top,
and this is a horrible place and we got to
right the wrongs and all that.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
So they don't like this country. Yes, look at what
you're trying to do. Take over Canada and Kleenland.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Trust me, if we wanted to take over and it,
I'd be taken.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Well, wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
The Left has got their big production coming up, Luigi
the Musical. What they're gonna celebrate a myrtle. You got
the guy own camera shooting a dude in the back. Yeah,
he's not even man enough to say, hey, turn around
his face it.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
But they're gonna do Luigi the Musical.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Can Chris van Holland, bring up kill maar Abrago for
that get all of their heroes together.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
And I knew as soon as he mentioned his favorite
Senator van Holland. We're gonna go into the video that
was released the body cam for the patrolman at Tennessee
who had a couple of questions and he's doing his
own interrogation there.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
He knows what's up.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
He got eight people in a car, no luggage. Dude
changes his mind four times in the conversation. Is to
where he's going. This guy knows when a human trafficker
is being stopped. He's trained to know these things.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
And then he runs the plate and turns out the
plate the vehicles actually owned by a man who has
pled guilty to human trafficking. So they're ready to go
in and make the arrest. But when they in the plate,
that triggered something at the FBI. We don't know exactly
what was said. We do know that kil Mar had
been pulled over for speeding, swerving in and out of traffic,
and then once they got him pulled over, he also

(26:12):
has an expired traffic license. He didn't get a ticket
for anything. He didn't get nothing.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
No, let him go.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Let's let him go.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
What the FBI?

Speaker 3 (26:22):
And the FBI calls up and says, hey, Joe Biden
wants you to let that dude go.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Well, we don't know that. That's what I'm saying. What
is I I want that investigation. I would love it
if it comes from the New York Times or the
Washington Post or the LA Times or MSNBC or CNN
or ABCNBCCBS, one of you liberal news outlets who are
been complaining that you're not the enemy of the people
that you are actually the real journalists. This is a

(26:49):
massive story that's just sitting here waiting for somebody to
break it. What the hell did the FBI say to
the Tennessee patrolman? And how many times has that been
said to other patrols throughout the country during the Biden administration.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
They're gonna follow the Q on Michelle Obama, who told
you the other day what keeps her up at night,
What keeps her awake at night is the fear of
Donald Trump being able to deport person's as he sees fits.
Citizens are not murderers or not, doesn't matter. He's just
gonna pick you up. People of color will be picked
up off the streets and it will be flown to

(27:22):
El Salvador, because he said he would like to hear
the legal opinion on whether he can take our worst
of the worst, even if they're American citizens, and send
them to a prison somewhere outside of the US.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
I wish that we could play the guy from CNN.
I don't know his name, I forget his name, but
he's the guy who said, and when you look at
what's going on with immigration, Donald Trump, Hallo polling at
eighty percent right now, who do you trust more? Democrats
are Donald Trump? It's eighty percent to twenty. My god,
I've never seen anything like this.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I don't even know why this guy hasn't been fired yet,
because you know, damn Goodwill AOC is already on the
phone over there to see Ann saying, hey, would you
get Look, we didn't bust our ass over here for
four years to ship people across the border, help them
swim across the rio, fly them in from parts unknown,
from one hundred and eighty two different countries, speaking one
hundred and sixty seven different languages. We didn't do all

(28:18):
that just for you to be to send them back
you got to give them their due process. We have
to have a hearing for each and every one of
these twenty According to most estaments, we all know, it's
probably closer to thirty million people. Each one of them
gets their own day in court.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
In the meantime, I'm expecting AOC to put on her
all white suit and go to L Salvador and cry
at the prison wall like she did back in the
twenty nineteen or whatever it was.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Well, maybe now that Rachel Maddow after the first one
hundred days, has promised that she did one hundred days
every weeknight she was on MSNB.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
So she wasn't on one hundred nights straight. She just
worked almost like a real person almost.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Now she's going back just to Mondays, so I'm sure
that maybe maybe she will have some time to fly
down with AOC to do those incredible video shoots that
you'd like outside of Salvadrian person.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Think about being Rachel Maddow. Every weekend is a six
day weekend. Every day's a sixth day weekend.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Although she is big on the Blue Sky, I have
not downloaded the Blue Sky out, but she updates that
all the time. Like most of the persons you love
so much, like Joy Reid.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
I'm interested in is Joy Reid and Rachel Maddow and
their endorsement of Blue Sky. And this could be taken
as a shot at anybody. Is that has that given
Blue Sky as much traction as Donald Trump's endorsement of
truth Social.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Who's got more? Who's got more people using it? Is
blue Sky gonna go the way of Air America? Remember
that the leftist leaning radio channel available for syndication on
any American radio station, and seemingly none of them wanted
to pick it up because nobody listened.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
You had Al frank On there who don't want to
hear him talk exactly.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I don't know if you heard the lesson. But if
we do not continue, if we continue to vote for
all white men to run this country, then you were
doing nothing other than following the footsteps of the fall
of the Roman Empire.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Huh. Yes, she explained it for you exactly. But you know,
are there options?

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Could they have hired people of color to run the
Roman Empire?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I don't know what would have been the answer to
save it.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
She can go back to save the you know, but
her point is is that you have got to get
people in place like AOC like Jasmine Crockett. You have
to have these people in place, because only they bring
the history of the suffrage that has been the country
of the United States of America. To save the United

(30:50):
States of America, I would I.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Would say that since nineteen fifty or so, when the
actually forty five is when the agreement was made Benton
Woods was to get the world economy in an order
where the US was going to be at the top.
Since that time, we have been really enjoying ourselves. However,
the last twenty plus years, as China has risen, we

(31:14):
have done nothing as they cheated their way to the top.
Donald Trump recognizes that not only has China now surpassed us,
they are actually got a bigger GDP than we've got,
but they have also become a bigger military threat, and
we are unsustainable the way were going. The whole thing
needs to change. It's like we're a cancer patient saying,

(31:37):
but I feel good today, Why do I have to.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Do any more chemo?

Speaker 3 (31:40):
And as we now march towards what's going to be
the marching celebration for Donald Trump's seventy ninth is his
seventy nine. I believe you're right, Yes, seventy ninth birthday,
Joy Reid. You may be in some context of history,
correct if it weren't for a seventy nine year old
old white man most historians. I know, there's a lot

(32:02):
of history to cover there because it's a lot of
time with the Roman Empire. But if you go back
and just look at the biggest issues, some of the
biggest problems were tribalism because they'd taken over so many
different countries that didn't really identify as they.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Didn't assimilate to the culture not they did not.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
And furthermore, for the past whatever years, Democrats had done
nothing but divide Americans in a different tribes. The other
problem was they are financial situation that going.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
To Hell and ham basket.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Oh that sounds for me.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
And their military had weakened to a point where they
were easy pickings.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
So they actually have women on the front line and transgenders.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
I don't know about that. I know the Romans were
a little kinky according to the squills of the Pigs.
We don't have time to get into all that, but
I can tell you that we have strengthened on military
since Donald Trump just in recruiting numbers since Donald Trump
has come into office. Forget about all the other commitments
he's made to build our military back to where it's
going have to be because of China's threat militarily.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Well, it's funny because again Democrats talk about what like
representation and all these types of things, and they're not wrong.
The problem is they're fighting for the wrong thing. So
when Donald Trump says we need symbolism, we do need
symbolism in order to trigger people to want to fight
in the military. People who can fight, We're going to
tell you come here and be the baddest killing machine

(33:25):
you can be. We're not looking for diversity. We don't
care what color you are. Can you kill a lot
of people and be under control because you got to
take orders. If that's you, come on, let's make you
a killer.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Lethality, Yes, become a big word lethality. Before we get
out of here, we had a little dust up again.
We have to talk about it coming up in a second.
We gotta split in the family.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Daddy and Daddy are fighting.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Next the Jonathan and Kelly show, Rush.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
I need to ask you an issue that no one's
brought up, and that has crashed you for a one case.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
You're tariffs. Stock market is way down. It needed a correction.
Kelly Nash. Oh so you support it? You bet? Yep.
No one's upset over this, No, no, no, j Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Frank Leutz nearly pulled out what remains of his dyed
red hair.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Is what is going He can't believe it.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
All the posters are shocked, not just him, They're all
shocked at what Trump is doing.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
All Right, we're gonna find out more as the one
hundred days and the aftermath of the one hundred days,
more analysis over the weekend. You'll see it all over
CNN and MSNBC.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Is Did I see He's going to be on Meet
the Press Sunday?

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yes, my gosh.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
This guy is relentless with his.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
He will not back down.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Hey, we got one last thing to talk about before
we get out of here in the state of South Carolina.
So we get a rip between two Republicans and the
South Carolina Legislature prompted a member of the ultra conservative
House Family Caucus to resign his post in a feud,
as it's described in the paper, that escalated over abortion
and accusations of anti semitic and homophobic, homophobic comments.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah, they threw that in there, just to spice it
up a bit. He got the House Majority Leader, David Hyatt.
I thought they called them Davy, but David Hyatt is
referred to hearing the paper.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Some people pronounce at highat okay.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
He renounced his membership in the Family Caucus after a
spat with the other co founder because they co founded
this thing together, John mccravy. Now what happened was apparently
mccravy had been pushing David Hyatt, who again House Majority Leader,
pushing him to bring up another abortion built to take
it further than the one we currently have, and David

(35:36):
Hyatt said, I'm not bringing it up, and there's no
appetite for it in this the Republican GOP house anyway.
So we're not.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Doing it well and the countdown continues. I mean, this
really is. It's going to be one of those issues
that are going to be pushed, but we had a
lot of people pushing for it.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Now.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Students for Life were having their protest outside of the
General Assembly. They actually hired a truck with a big
billboard to drive around. They had allowed music playing or
not to make sure every what they got everybody's attention.
But they were upset because we weren't moving fast enough
on this.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
If it would have been Bruce Banister that would have
done it.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
That is right. We didn't know the pushbab Oh you
know something.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
This is one of those articles in the paper that
brings up what has become now another riff as we
went through all of the how long did it take
us to be able to negotiate down for the six
week bill that we got?

Speaker 4 (36:31):
I have years, yeah, but you know when you look
at this, but what you have basically is Hyatt is
saying I don't want to do it, and so then
you got a bunch of constituents who are saying you
need to do it. And rather than just face the music,
he quit. And then he apparently through his group because

(36:51):
you got the citizen, you got the Personhood sc and
the Students for Life who were apparently aligned with mccravy. Well,
mister Hyatt's got his own crew as well, and they
came out with a pretty blistering piece that says John
mccravy opposes jobs. He backed a one point three billion

(37:13):
dollars in corporate handouts while opposing the homegrown jobs. You
need to call John and ask him why, and he
gives out his phone number here. So now those two
are really into a fight.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
All right.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
That the mud slinging will continue, and this will be
in the off session now, and we got to get
through May eighth, and then we'll have this to battle
about in the streets as it's now. Pour it into
the streets and ended up on flyers, and we got
all kinds of activists now working against each other to
make sure they push their message.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
If you want to stand on principle, go right ahead,
But you know, at some point you got to recognize
the fact that we're not going to get this through.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
We got all these other issues we have to get through.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
We're going to stop down to put up a huge
speed bump in the middle of this process.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
But you still haven't included yet the next level of
results where we got the homophobic, antisemitism slurs being thrown around.
So that's what apparently the calling John mccravy a far
right winger didn't really bother him or anybody else. So
now what they've come up with is he's a homophobe

(38:15):
and an anti Semite, who said that he was against
Beth Bernstein because she's a Jew, and he was also
upset apparently allegedly that they had appointed somebody who's the
first openly gay Republican to a subcommittee. Now, I mccravy
saying I never said any of this. Where does that
come from? David's like, I'm pretty sure you did. I

(38:37):
don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Just find out which door banister ran out of. You guys,
try to escape with your lives over there. We'll talk
to you again Monday.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
With a rash thought, it's over. I wish that all
of you will come back again next week.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Can you come back next week? I'll be back same
time next week.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Well, sow on poo, we'll be back next week. That's
what you bring it to.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
You gotta come back next week
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