05 07 25 We talk with Congressman Ralph Norman

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, as you know from real estate, there are
some places that are never for sale. Having met with
the owners of Canada over the course of the campaign
last several months, it's not for sale. Won't be for
sale ever, Kelly Nash.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
But never say never, Never say never.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Jonathan Kelly Show. Woc never say that was it was
the explo It wasn't the explosive conversation that everybody on
Embassy MSNBC kept referencing and comparing it to. But having
the Canadian is he the prime minister? Up? Yes, yes, yes, yes,
so Carney's his name, mister, mister Carney, the Prime minister.

(00:43):
It's not for sale. Never say never.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
It was great. I mean, and for Trump to just
see the one thing that you have to respect about Trump,
I think, whether you like him or hate him, you
have to respect the fact that he doesn't change in
front of different people like you and I have conversations
that I would never have on the air. Sure we
would never have that conversation. We would also never have

(01:06):
it in front of HR. But but Donald Trump does
not change. He talks the way he talks, and so
when he when he goes on like Sean Hannity and
says these things about, we don't want Canada to make
money off of us. Sean, it's on it. We don't
want them to sell us their cars.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
We don't need their car.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
We don't want their steel, we don't want their illuminum,
we don't want their oil, we don't want anything from Canada.
Oftentimes that can be perceived as, oh, he's just talking big.
But he said all that with Mark Carney almost touching
his shoulder while he's saying it, Mark, you want to
add anything to that.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Trump spoke for forty seven minutes and like eighteen seconds yesterday,
and Carney spoke for three minutes and forty eight seconds,
and he had to raise his hand constantly just to
get a word in edge.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
He had to ask permission.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Amazing, you know. And these are the people are so
funny comparing the availability of Trump in front of the
pool of reporters that are allowed to follow him. Everybody
wants to ask Trump a question. I mean after he
finishes his statement, or when he gets to a point
in a statement where he thinks this man, everybody starts yelling.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
It's like a feeding frenzy. It is it's like baby
birds in the springtime.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Amazing. Hey, we can get into some more of that
coming up as we continue on paper Watch. And I
just flipped through all the news channels. Everybody's fixated on
the paper watch the Sistine Chapel, and I was wondering.
I wonder how many people it took and how long
it took, and how many applications of wax that they

(02:43):
put on that floor. That floor looks incredible. That's how
simple minded I am in watching the entire process today.
Is it the march of all the cardinals that didn't
get my attention?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I wonder who fixes their hats because they're all perfectly
placed on their heads as well as pressed died. I
didn't get my antention? Is it even the wall coverings,
not really those kind of repetitive and boring, But the
floor fascinates me. That floor has got a sheen on
it like none other. You get a good look at
that floor. Brother, Is that why they.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Got to wear kind of like the velvet slippers because
if they were dress shoes would be too slippy.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Possibly, I gotta tell you, I'm very impressed with the floor.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
These are older people for the most part too. So
you don't want one of these, like seventy five year
old Cardinals slipping and busting his noggin.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
No, you don't want that. Oh that cardinalons at that
card and couldn't make it up the three steps.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, cardinaloons. Not a young man's game. No, all right.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Anyway, I do love the uniforms of whoever those guards are.
They remind me of the guards that were on the
Wizard of Oyes. Yes, and they don't flying monkeys to come.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
To Those are great outfits. Man.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Hey, we're gonna have a conversation to play back for you.
We just had it this morning with Rock normally gonna
do that and we'll come back out and talk about
maybe some more South Carolina news. We'll do a quick
scan and see what's popping up today as the news
is now affixated on who will be the next pope.
But let's go to the double Secret probationary hotline. Kelly Nash,
Welcome on the phone, our US congress fifth District Representative

(04:17):
Congressman Ralph Norman, Good morning.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Good morning, Glad to be with you.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well, I know you're hitting the ground running this morning
because we are a little bit behind schedule, as Donald
Trump would insist on making sure we get the big,
beautiful bill pass. Where are we standing on the House side.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, the good news is the House got to the Senate,
but got voted out a conservative budget with actual cuts
one point two tree and one point five tree and
minimum and then two tree and aspiration on which I
think we will reach the committee's a meeting. Everything's pretty
well been sapped. The energy has been sapped from everything

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else with the committee's meeting, which is the way it
should be, and trying to get it out before the
moral Day, and hopefully we can do that. And as
President Trump said, a beautiful bill. We're struggling, as you
would expect with trying to make cuts. Every dollar in
Washington is an advocate for it. So we're trying to

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urge the committees to do what we all voted on,
which hopefully we will.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Do a lot of I don't know conservatives will say.
People are saying that the folks in your position, the
Congress has done a very poor job of getting bills
forward to Donald Trump to sign, and his first hundred days,
I believe he is since they've been keeping track of
the first hundred days since basically FDR, he has signed

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the fewest amount of bills. And so these executive orders,
while they're great and they're being fought in the courts,
a lot of people want to see Congress just take
the lead and get some law changes that line up
with the president. And since you have the majority, it
seems like that is a doable thing. What are your
thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Well, it is, but you know, if you look at
the last one hundred days, executive orders were the quickest
way to get this country back on track. You got
to remember, Joe Biden left this country off the rails.
It was misguided in so many different areas, and none
more than the financial crisis. At this country's end, thirty
seven tree in in counting is not sustainable. And bear

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in mind that doesn't include the Highway Trust Fund, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,
all of those that are running dry. So our situation
is with executive orders, which we're going to have to
put into law. All the cuts that and all the
things that he has brought before us through executive orders

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were it's like an emergency shock treatment for a pool.
You've got to do it to maintain this country in
a country that weekend the sustainable financially and that's what
he has done. But now you will see bills come forward,
like the Decision Package, like what the Doze Commission has

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done to eliminate some agencies and regulations as we move forward.
But it just takes time up here. Nothing happens, you know,
in you know, like in a private business, you can do.
But no, I'm excited about what he has done. He's
had the courage to do that with executive orders and
like no one else. So we're on the right track.

(07:24):
Now we've got to bring it home, which hopefully we
will do.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
You know, one of the things we discussed with you
the last time but we had an opportunity to have
you on the program, was about DOZE in their efforts.
And remember we talked about Elon must bragging on the
trail that he is going to cut up trillion dollars
in waste abuse and misspent moneys. And I asked you
could we reach that point you thought it would go higher.
I know that we're still in the middle of the
process of trying to gain access. Is there an opportunity

(07:47):
for Congress to be able to help step in and
give dose the access they need to all of these things,
so we make sure that we're not throwing money out
the window.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Well, what Dose has done, he's done it. I mean,
if he were working on Congress, he'd never be there
in the first place. But what he's done is and
he started with USAID identifying dollars that just should not
tax dollars that unforcedly have been spent. And you know
the he could easily reach anywhere from a tree in

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the over. I mean, when you have people on Social
Security that at one hundred and twenty years old but
getting a Social Security check. No, when you have money
going to Bill Walls in other countries, No, when you
have money that you thought you think would have gone
to a humanitarian project go to Stacey Abrams and Georgia. No,

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you put a stop to that. And you will see
US codifying bro and actually vote on each one of
these things that Elon has found. But he's just beginning,
not just USAID, social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, he said, doesn't
find the fraud and the waste. And it's an eye
opener for the American peace. And nobody's done it better

(09:02):
than Elon Musk, who has got the bandwidth of the
brains to do it. Politicians couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
He's going to be leaving soon, right, so I guess
it's going to fall on big balls.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Well, he's going to be leaving, but his people are
still in place, and it's up to us now, I mean,
with what he's identifying, it's up to us to kindify
and say, this agency's going to be cut, this building
is going to be so because it hasn't been used,
and so it's his impact would be felt for a
long time. And it's not just the fact that when

(09:33):
he leaves, he'll he's at President Trump's call and they're
a great team and they've proven that.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Well, maybe a better question would have been that he
was concerned the other night in an interview, as he
said that after they're able to find and identify and
then cut this waste of abuse, we have to have
some type of congressional activity to make sure this just
isn't replaced again, as you mentioned, with another executive order
where the whims of whoever should win the next oval
office contest.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
That's exactly right, and it's got to be voted on individuals,
which we will do. But I mean, we've got twelve
committees that have to come up with the two trade
in savings, and that's what they're working on doing. I
will tell you it's hard when the lobbyists get involved,
and when those who are been the recipient of money,
even though it's basically waste and fraud, you've got to

(10:21):
force their action on it to cut it. And none
more than the Medicaid that has been an issue for
a long time.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I was going to bring that up Congressman Ralph Norman
on the show. And you are part of a movement.
You and Chip Roy have put together something here where
you're talking about the nineteen sixty five mission when Medicaid
was launched. It's really way off course now and I
couldn't believe it when I read it. The Congressional Budget

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Office now projects that from twenty twenty five to twenty
thirty four, so over the next nine years, Medicaid spending
will be one point two trillion dollars higher than it
had been forecasted back in twenty twenty one. So over
the last four years the Medicaid, I mean, that is
an unbelievable sum of money. And you're saying that the

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vast majority of this has nothing to do with helping
the people it's designed to help.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Get this First of all, like you mentioned, this is
an agency that's been in in existence of sixty over
sixty years. It was intentionally put in place to help
the disable, the single mom's infants. It was not intended
to for able bodied working Americans to go on this.
And now you've got right at twenty four and a

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half million able bodied adults on Medicaid. How does that
make sense? And in South Carolina you've got I think
it's one point one million as of June of twenty
four that were on Medicaid. It's a big deal. It's
a eight point nine billion dollar price tag just South
Carolina alone. For the country, you know, it's more than

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its approaching eight hundred and ninety billion, which is getting
real close to a tree. And long story short, if
you're healthy, if you go to work, if you're able
to work, you shouldn't be on Medicaid. And that's where
it's gotten off track. And when you know you you
the media is going to put out that we're cutting
Medicaid and we're cutting social Security, which we can't do

(12:25):
in reconciliation anyway. But now we're going to make some
changes if with that, If you're illegal, should you get
a paycheck from the United States government?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
No?

Speaker 4 (12:37):
And it's common sense, But common sense is so common
in DC, and it's a fight. I will tell you
that a lot of people will use this as leverage
not to do anything. And guys are getting a ninety
percent match from the federal government. It started off fifty
to sixty percent. They're getting a ninety percent match. Illegals
and a lot of again able bodied workers who shouldn't

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be on the system anyway.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
You're saying one in five South Carolinians are collecting medicaid.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Wow, And you point out here that of the people
receiving medicaid, now, this is nationwide. This is not just
in South Carolina. The Medicaid now serves more individuals who
are above the poverty line than below it.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Correct. They've got nationwide twenty four and a half million
able bodied people who are on Medicaid. And that shouldn't happen.
That's more than an entire state of Florida. And you know,
it's like somebody coming on your show and saying, all
of a sudden, I need I'm here to pick up
a check. But by the way, I don't do anything.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
That doesn't let me ask because I know a lot
of people talk about the abuse that happens with disability claims.
Is that part of medicaid or is that another umbrella,
another bucket of money.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Well, it's part of medicaid. Is you have in snap,
which makes up seventy percent of the Farm bill, you
have people there there's been no checks and balances, and
that's where government has left American people behind, as those
is showing, and that's where we've got to reign it end.
We've got Republicans campaign on conservatism, less government, less taxes,

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now tign to put it into action and not just
keep talking about it.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, you can tell by the way that the Democrats
are positioning this there were a lot of people who
were collecting medicaid, but I didn't realize it was one
in five South Carolinians. But when Democrats get out of
the trail start talking about Republicans are going to cut medicaid,
you're talking to twenty percent of the people just in
our state who are actually receiving a check that they
want to protect.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
You know, not all of it is. You know, you'd
have to weed through the ones that you know, again
are above the poverty line. And sure, I think, and
so you've got to verify. And we just haven't had that,
not just in South Carolina, we haven't had it across
the country. And that's the great part about what Trump's
doing with his executive orders. Yes it's temporary, but he's

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got the courage to do it, and he's doing it
in every level, from not just the financial end. He's
doing it on the military, he's doing it on deportations,
so many other things that he's delivering on exactly what
he said.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
I'm probably not telling you something that you don't know,
Congressman Ralph Norman, but I think that part of the
messaging to the American public has to be we are
trying to eliminate the people who don't deserve medicaid, so
we can actually increase the benefits for those who need it.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Right, for those who really need it, who are disabled,
who have got a disability. We won't increase their likelihood
of getting the check, because that's what it was intended
to do, not illegals and not able bodied workers. It's
not that difficult. But now prying the money away, and
this started under the Bomba administration, they did it with

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illegals and they raised the payment system to ninety percent
in South Carolina, and I was in the legislature then
that did not expand it, but a lot of states did,
California being the worst, and we got to correct it.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Now, that's not unlike the conversation we have them with
Social Security. If we could take the waste of fard
and know the abuse out of the Social Security system,
we will protect the livelihood and the liquidity of the
Social Security Fund to make sure the persons who actually
should receive the moneies do receive the monies.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
But what do you.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Think outside of that, what do you think the likelihood
is that this will actually, as you've worked through the
budget process, eliminate the tax on Social Security for recipients
who should be getting the money.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Once we identify those that are less than one hundred
and twenty years old of the obvious, we can weed
those out and then get it to the people who
you know, that's what they're paid in for. Right and again,
the illegals alone are going to represent it's going to
shock the American people. Let's going to shock South Carolinians,
the people that are illegal here that are getting the

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check that we've got to stop. And but again the
media that I'm hearing daily up here in the DC
bubble is Republicans are cutting Medicaid, They're cut Social Security,
They're you know, taking away your benefits. It's just not
the case. Do we want to reform it, yes? Is
it going to take work, yes, and it's probably going

(17:05):
to take longer than we anticipated. I mean, we're looking
at Memral Day, but I don't know if that's going
to happen. The lever we have to have to meet
is we cannot let the tax cuts expire, which if
the tax cuts that were put in under Trump expire,
this is going to be a twenty two percent increase
on the American people, which we can't let happen.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I was just running the numbers the other day. If
you make ninety dollars a year, if those tax cuts
are not renewed, you just added a thirty eight hundred
dollars tax bill to your annual income.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Well even worse than that with the rapid depreciation on
equipment that were part of the Tax Cut Jobs Act.
I mean, what Donald Trump has done is put the
enthusiasm and put a belief that the American system works
and it's a great place to start a business to
start bringing back manufacturing from particularly China, and we cannot

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let that expire. Now they're going to probably use that
as a lever to not do anything else on the
medicaid front that we're talking about. But you know, we've
got a you walking you gum at the same time,
and the tax dollars that we can save and have
an opportunity through the reconciliation process is real, and it's

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we won't have this opportunity again. So you'll see it
play down to the wire. But I think at the
end of the day, we'll band together and get it done.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Certainly, there are House members who are working hard every
day to make sure the initiatives and the agenda laid
out by President Trump are going to be actually executed
and then signed in the law. But along the way,
you also have a lot of grand standing going on,
in particular right now with the Democrats. I'm thinking about
AOC and that she threw down her gauntlet with Tom
Holman the other day saying, if you're going to come
get me, I'm waiting for you come get me. But

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you know, when you take a look at not only
her words to the media, but also what she has
done inside her district having to do with diverting people
or diverting ice away from persons who are here illegally.
I don't know how the courts are going to come
down if it ever goes to court. And do you
think Homan should go after AOC for her trying to
enable persons to get around the ICE law enforcement availability

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of detaining illegal.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Well, she's saying, is the First Amendment right to say
what she wants. But now, I mean, get this, She's
siding with MS gang members. She siding with those who
rape children, who kill Lake and Riley and others. That's
what the Democrat Party is now. And you know the
great thing about Tom Holman, and he's spoken to our

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group several times, and there's a great American. He doesn't listen.
That's just words to him. He's got a job to
do and he's going to do it. And he's got
the leeway that President Trump has given him. He's going
to continue doing what he's doing. It's a disservice to
America for AOC to side with gang members. Where's the empathy?
But I saw it during the State of the Union

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when they didn't stand for the little boy with cancer.
They hate President Trump, and as he said, if he
cured cancer, they would boo him and not vote for
him because they, for whatever reason, they you know, can't
stand the man. But look what he's doing for the country.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Congressman Ralph Norman any thoughts on the darryl Isa legislation
that was Mike Johnson was talking about on Tuesday, the
No Rogue Rulings Act of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, what he's doing is trying to reign in judges
who are putting injunctions on President Trump from deportation basically,
you know, overruling seventy seven million people that voted on him.
What the ISO bill does is goe to you have
to have more of a group consensus before you can
adjudge and just do this. Now. The great thing about Trump,

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he's ignoring it. Anyway, if you're an illegal, you don't
have due due process if that, you know, end of story.
And the is OF bill just codifies it and is
a good first start. Should it be stricter. I think
they're they're we we need to get rid of them anyway,
But it should it be stricter, probably, but that's what
we could get passed. And Darryl's done a good job

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of putting this into a built and I think will pass.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Congressman Ralph Norman, I know you're a busy man. It's
a brand new day in Washington, DC, and you're optimistic.
I can tell it by the tone of your voice.
And I appreciate your enthusiasm and your willingness to share
your thoughts with our listeners.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Well, it's my pleasure to thank you all for what
you do.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Wet's see how this week continues, very important week in Washington,
very important week with a General Assembly. We do see
that they maye headway with the tort reform as it
applies to alcohol and restaurants. We've been following this tragedy
now it's been unfolding like a slow meshed train wreck.
A lot of restaurants that we've lost because they can't

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afford the insurance, but the general recently here in South Carolina.
By the end of this week we'll be finished for
the session. We'll have the new budget to talk about
as well. Now, you just mentioned something to me a
few seconds ago. Somebody did an interview with Joe Biden
and asked for his interpretation of what was going on
with the negotiation with Ukraine, Trump and Putin.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
I'm reading this on X and so again, forgive me
if it's not actually correct, but it appears to be
because it's published from BBC Breaking News, which has the
yellow check and fifty one point seven million followers. So
I'm assuming this is really the BBC, and it says

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Joe Biden tells the BBC Today program in an exclusive
interview that Donald Trump is appeasing Putin by pressuring the
Ukraine to give up land. So apparently the BBC wanted
to go to the source, not Donald Trump. They wanted
to go to the source Joe Biden, who couldn't tell
you what Joe Biden was doing, never mind what Donald

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Trump is doing. But that's who their sources.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
He can't even reference himself in third person because he
doesn't realize who he is. He thinks he's quoting somebody
else when he quotes Joe Biden. That's classic. That's how
disconnected he is the reality.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
And I guess that would have been this morning. Now
they are ahead of us time wise, so I'm sure
if I looked on social media somewhere that would this
be an interview like that? I can get quotes from
probably what happened?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
This is the day that Joe Biden is going to
be on the View. What times the View? Did we
miss it? I don't even know what time comes on?

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I swear I had no idea that Joe Biden was
supposed to be on this.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yes, yes, this week is going to be on the View.
I could have missed it.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, the BBC comes at ten o'clock. Isn't it after ten?
It's almost eleven?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
It comes on eleven o'clock. I'm sorry, No, not not
listed Today.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
We've got Josh du Maal maybe he maybe he's the
second guest. Maybe Josh Dumaal is a bigger name that
Joe Biden's.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Maybe he's going to be on the View tomorrow. I
know he's going to be on the View.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Joe Biden. Apparently the BBC went to Della to interview him.
Speaking in Delaware, Joe Biden tells the BBC Today program,
which I guess here is on channel four, So we're going.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
To have more communications and more talks. A Scott Besset
is to be flying to Switzerland to have meetings with Japan.
It's gonna be with China. He wasn't doing to battle
in the process. That was not the intended goal. He
was there to meet with Switzerland, okay, and then China
reached out and said, our people are going to be
in that area, and so he said, well, let's say

(24:31):
I'll hang around throughout the weekend.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
And he's not giving us an indication we'll have a
deal done. He said, this is simply to bring down
the rhetoric a little bit so we can start the
process and negotiating a trade deal. But if they if
for whatever reason, I think Trump wants to build us
up to a huge crescendo. He doesn't want to dribble
it out. We got a couple of agreements here and
a couple of agreements there. I think he just wants

(24:54):
to unleash the whole thing over like a three or
four day building up to the big announcement for the
new China agreement.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I also feel like what Trump said was not He
wasn't lying when he said we don't need sign deals.
We're not looking for signed deals. We don't we're not
trying to do business with their country. They're trying to
do business with our country. He's the shopkeeper, yes, and
what did he say, look at us like a very

(25:23):
high end luxury store, and it costs to get into
our store. And the only there's not going to be
for everybody. This is not for every country. Every country
doesn't get access to the United States. And so you know,
I think he said they have like seventeen or eighteen
already lined up, so I would imagine those are some
of the good ones. I mean, look, obviously Japan is

(25:44):
going to be in that one, right because Japan already
came and based knowledge, Vietnam is going to be in there.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Vietnam is much bigger as a trading partner there. And
the other day I was waiting on Sally to get
out of the car, so I'm standard there with nothing
to look at, and there's a new Toyota okay that
I'm parked next to, so I look at and I'm
a position so I see right at the front on
the driver's side, I'm looking where usually the vend number

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would be, and there's a little sticker that says designed
in California, assembled in Vietnam, and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Really designed in California assembled in Vietnam.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Vietnam really does We do import a lot of stuff
from Vietnam.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah. Yeah, And so you know, as Donald Trump tries
to reshore manufacturing, I don't know what that's going to
do for Like you said, Toyota, I you know, we've
talked about Honda's trying to open up a plant here
in the United States. We've we've heard a lot from
the people of Michigan. How much of the product in
Michigan is actually assembled to I mean, if I understand right,

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if you're in Detroit, you actually have to drive south
to get into Canada. So it's a weird geographic situation,
and so they do a lot of work with the people.
I'm trying to remember the city that's on the other side.
Is it Ottawa or maybe Ottawa's West Coast, I don't know,
whatever the country, whatever the big town is that's on
the other side of Detroit. Yeah, you know, it'd be

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like us dealing with West Columbia. It could be Ontario.
I don't know. I don't know Canada that well, but
it's like going from Columbia to West Columbia. If that
if that river was you know, a different country. We
but we wouldn't think it was a big deal to
go to West Columbia to do manufacturing.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Like driving on the property of Ford Jason, you gotta
show your idea. Takes you a little bit, a little
bit of slow down, and you're across the border. You're
into Canada. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
So I think that that's gonna that's the people of
Michigan are are upset because they're saying, so you're saying
that we can't produce the cars in America because we
can't get the parts from Canada even though we've I mean,
we don't have a place to manufacture them here in
the United States, right, So that's going to take some time.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
That's the problem. It's going to take some time.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
But you wouldn't move if you didn't have some pain.
Pain will make you move.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
That's very true, all right. So we have more information
coming down hopefully very soon about that, and then we
keep continuing to watch as the news coverage will allow.
Today the push for the big beautiful deal, that's really
the deal that we talked about a little bit with
Ralph Norman. So I'm tracking those two things in particular.
But as soon as we get the first two or

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three announcements of these trade deals done done, the market's
going to start to explode. I hope. Yeah. And now
you've got to go back to if you're a Democrat,
you got to go back to defending this junior varsity
TDA mob that I was hearing about yesterday for the

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first time attacked a bunch of cops in Times Square.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
We do have some interesting gang problems it is.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
We get a real turf battle going on here with factions.
I was not even aware of m anyway. All right,
so all that's coming up, and maybe we'll get Joe
Biden's insight, well, excuse me, maybe we'll talk to Jill's
husband of what Joe Biden thinks.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Well, I just found the interview, so it's a thirty
minute show. We can we can go through that and
get some of the best of clips.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
He stayed awake for a half hour.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Now, I don't know the beginning of it. Is a
guy you know from the BBC walking around d C.
So I don't know how much is he good to
Joe Biden