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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan, they're giving us a free jet.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I could say, no, no, no, don't give us.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I want to pay you a billion or four hundred
million or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Kelly Nash, Well.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I can say thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Jonathan and Kelly show. Wo oh in the tragedy that
that now it's set the music to Donald and the Jet.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I did appreciate the lesson on Sam Snead that he
gave us. Sam Snead used to say, if they give
you the putt, you say thank you very much. Yeah,
you say thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Because if you put it, you miss it, then your
partner gets mad at you. You got to walk to
the next tea box listening to him grumble. They're giving
me a free jet.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And that's the thing. They're not giving Donald Trump a
free jet. They're giving the United States a free jet.
And the United States Department of Defense is accepting that
jet and they're going to retrofit it so that it
is a safe for the Commander in chief to fly
in that we're.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Going to sweep it from wing tip to wing tip.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, they're going to add in extra armor and they're
going to add in all kinds of extra things that
only Air Force one would have. And then the plan
is because Donald Trump, ironically back in twenty nineteen, ordered
from Boeing a new Air Force One, which still has
not been delivered yet. So the plan is that when
he retires or ends his presidency here in almost three
(01:29):
and a half years from now, that this jet will
then go as again it's not his personal property, it
will go to the Trump Memorial Library. The new Air
Force One will be commissioned at that point. So he's
going to save a couple extra miles on the new
one for the next president, and we should be able
to keep that one for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know, in reality, I believe you know, even if
Boeing says, look, you might as well go ahead and
take it, because it's going to take another four years
for us to crank out this Air Force One that
we actually got under contract seven years ago. But you
you still have to go through as is mentioned Kelly said,
you got to upgrade it to Air Force one quality.
You got to sweep it obviously for any type of
devices that may be put in there nefariously. So all
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that has to be that takes a tremendous amount of time.
So it's not like you're going to have Donald Trump
flying in this jet next week.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I was listening to what's the US representative from New
York's name?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Dan Goldberg? Gold Mun Goldman? Okay, he's a more on.
Dan Goldman was on CNN, I think it was yesterday
talking about how this is an impeachable offense and it's
the largest case of bribery he's ever seen.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
In the history in the history of the world.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And that the United States Constitution makes it very clear,
abundantly clear, that the United States cannot accept gifts from
foreign governments. And I thought to myself, well, Dan, one
of the greatest symbols in American history was a gift
from France that we'd like to call the Statue of Liberty.
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Should we dig up Grover Cleveland and try his butt
for accepting that. Should we dig up Woodrow Wilson, who
accepted roughly nine million dollars worth of Japanese trees and
planted them all around the water basin there in Washington,
d C. To give us the cherry blossoms every year?
Should we this guy's a moron? The United States government
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receives gifts all the time. Now, the real story to me, Jonathan,
that a lot of people aren't talking about is why
is Cutter doing this? And you might notice at the
same time, Cutter didn't even work with the Israelis to
get the one of the IDF soldiers also an American
citizen released. Cutter is a horrible group of people who
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run that country. They are They support terrorism to the
fullest extent. When Hamas was rising to power, there was
only two countries on the face of the earth. They
couldn't even get the support of Iran. Hamas only had
two countries, Turkey and Cutter. Those were the only two
countries who endorsed them. They have been funding terrorism through
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Hamas at literally tens of millions of dollars a year.
They are one of the architects behind what happened to
the Israelis. That all happened while Joe Biden was there.
If you remember when Joe Biden met the head of Cutter,
he didn't want to shake his hand, so he gave
him a very awkward fist bump that was bizarre beyond belief.
But neither here nor there, but Cutter now knows, oh crap,
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the Godfather's back, and so we're so sorry for what
we've done. We're gonna go get the only US citizen
that's left in there. We're gonna save him. We're going
to get him out, and please accept this four hundred
million dollar jet as a sorry note, and we're gonna
fall in line while you're the president. I imagine it
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was kind of like Luca BRASSEI remember Luca Brosse and
the Godfather is getting ready to meet the Godfather and
he's like rehearsing his lines. Our first child be a
manly child or whatever. That's how I imagine the head of
Cutter getting ready to meet Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know, it's funny because I think it was Ram
Paul is the only person I saw on a television interview.
Now it could be other people, maybe a Democrat, there's
only Ram Paul who pointed out the reality of the
situation is is that this country does not have a
great track record with the people that they have supported
in the past financially, and Hamas certainly is a glaring
example of that. But it just seems like to me
that this country comes off as they got so much money,
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you know, they show up at the Kentucky Derby, and
they bet on every damn horse in the race.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And if they lose, they buy the Kentucky Derby exactly.
We now own it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Got we got so much money, you's going to make
sure that we got some money on the on the
head of every person in the race. And in this
particular case, when Donald Trump comes into the mix, as
it were internationally as the president, in particular as the Donald,
then you're obviously going to find a way to butter
him up. Now is this buttering him up? I don't know.
(05:57):
I got to tell you something. I'm kind of like Trump,
if you can get the military to sweep it. I mean,
for Pete's say, we trust people here in the US,
some of them have proven not very trustworthy. We've even
taken in stuff we bought from other countries they didn't
sweep efficiently, like the cargo cranes they put in Miami
from Japan from China who put little radio Wi Fi
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towers in all of them so they can hack into
the city's infrastructure. So there's a lot of different things
that the US is going to be on top of,
having to do with taking the plane and then making
sure that it is secure in such a way that
it could be used as Air Force One. And then
you're right, Kelly, it's not like we've never done this before.
And I don't know if the new Air Force one
isn't ready. When whoever takes over and Donald Trump steps down,
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does it automatically go to the Library of Congress, I
mean the Presidential Library, much like the one they have
a Ronald Reagan. I believe JFK's got one of his
hangar as well, so we got plenty of these around
after we make sure the security measures in place. I
don't know what the big pushback is other than we've
got to find every opportunity to give every decision that
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Donald Trump ever made, and we've got to come on
and whine about it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well, yes, that's exactly what's going on. And Donald Trump
was asked point blank by the very fake news at
ABC News, it's your personal gift, and he said, I
will never fly in it personally. I don't want it
and I don't need it personally. It's for the United
It's a gift to the people of the United States
of America. From cutter cutter, look horrible people. Yes, they're
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trying to get in on our good side, because now
we have somebody in power who could erase them from
the face of the earth if he chose to do so.
And is the kind of guy who might do that
or could erase their top leadership if he chose to
do so. And he has done that with certain nations
in the past where suddenly they woke up with a
missile in their pocket.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You know, I don't know the answer to this question,
and you will. Is Donald Trump currently being paid the
presidential salary or did he forego that like he did
in his first administration.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, if I'm going to play the Democrats game, you're
talking about who's giving up roughly what three hundred thousand
dollars a year to pocket a four hundred million dollar jet.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Jonathan, No, what I'm saying, why would it be allowed
under the government? Law and the constitution should not even
allow this that you put a person in a position
where they could actually be financially now compromise to the
extent that the country could come in and make the
difference when you're simply taking the money to the bottom
line put it back at the treasury.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, they would say, again using a Democrats argument, they
would say that the Constitution prohibits a person being financially
compromised from another government. And yet that's what Donald Trump's
blatantly doing right in front of you. He's accepting a bribe,
and we can't stop him because he's also got the
Department of Justice under his thumb and they've already fast
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tracked the approval of this.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
There you go, all right. So I guess now that
they take this to court, we're gonna look for the
Supreme Court the weigh in whether Trump can step foot.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I don't think that there's a possibility for it to
go to the Supreme Court because it's it's not an
actionable thing. The Departartment of Justice is not prosecuting. Yeah,
the Department of Justice has decided that this does not
meet that qualification. You can't sue a law enforcement agency
for Look, it's kind of like when we tried to
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sue the federal government as conservatives because they were not
enforcing the law on the border, and we lost. The
Supreme Court said, you.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Can't do that. You don't have standing. You don't have standing,
not even on your own land. No, sir, you can't.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So they're certainly not going to prosecute them, or go
after the Department of Justice for not prosecuting Donald Trump
for accepting a gift to the United States.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Now, maybe I misunderstood the first interpretation of this conversation
that was being held. Was it like a week ago
where they said it had already been cleared by the
Department Justice and they referenced some type of international clearance.
I'm like, I don't even know what you're talking about.
But plainly they had already asked the legality of it
all before they even accepted the office. Yes, so there
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you go. Now continue with your wining Democrats, find something
else to whine about, or go body slam somebody at
the DOJ. Good luck, all right, Now, see what else
is going on? Well, we got the big the big
visit going on today? Was it four stops? He's gonna
make a three he's over there in the Middle East, right,
(10:19):
three or four, and he's gonna come back with And
this will be huge because their goal is to come
back with one trillion dollars to announce in investments here
in America. So if you can get different companies to
announce at the return or during whatever the case may be,
(10:40):
a trillion dollars of investments in the America. In America
so far as actual business investments, that will be huge.
I don't even know how you Trump last weekend, but
if he can do that this coming weekend when he
gets back, that's huge. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I mean, the Trump administration is on a role right now,
and it's just driving Democrats insane.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Speaking of people going insane and what would seemingly be
either grasping for power or clinging to it, seems like
half the Democrat Party at this point is clinging to power,
Chuck Schumer in the like. The other half is grasping
for President Hogg. As we have referenced him for many years,
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even before he even gained national notoriety, we would calling
him President Hogg. We could see the power dancing in
his eyes. A couple of interesting comments he made an
interview the other day. But we also have Nancy May
who is starting to sling some serious mud now, and
Alan Wilson says, I've heard enough of it. We're not
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going to lie about me anymore. He came out, I
guess it was over the weekend with his first social
media statement about this. Nancy May says basically that Alan
Wilson is going out of his way, as she would
have you believe, to make sure that person's, in particular
pedophiles are not being held accountable to the law, and
these plea deals being able to let them walk the
streets and putting us all at harm.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting because if Nancy Mace's accusations
were true, you would think that of every sheriff in
South Carolina, some of them would have called them out
on that. I mean, we have democrats who are heading
counties and stuff. Every one of them is lining up
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behind Alan Wilson. None of them are talking about he's
protecting pedophiles. As a matter of fact, Alan Wilson one
of the things that she talks about in her video
that she's got pinned to the top of her ex
account right now, is that she doesn't want to call
out law enforcement. She thinks law enforcement's doing a great job.
And she talks about is AC ICAC, which is basically
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designed to go after child predators. And he mentioned in
his since I took office, me and my office have
grown the ice AC Task Force four times its original
size and executed three thousand arrests year after year. We're
upping the amount of people that we're catching. So for
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her to say that he's I don't know what he's doing.
I mean if you read her, not only would you
if you listen to what she says, but then you
look at the comments that are being made in her
social media feed. People are talking about how only a
predator would protect another predator, and that's the way she's
portraying it that Alan Wilson is at minimum protecting child molesters.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Alan Wilson accused Mas of launching attacks against him either
out of ignorance from malice, and then continue the quote,
I would never assign malice when stupidity will suffice.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's a great line.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's a great line, all right. So now on top
of all that, and she goes on to give him
great career advice, I think your career path executing pedophiles
rather than protecting them. Then we have the story of
the lawsuits. Now put all that aside for a second.
So remember when this is where it mixes and mingles.
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When she stood on the house floor and started her
first attacks against Alan Wilson, it was based on her
experience as a sexual abuse victim. I am not making
jokes about that at all. She claims she was sexually abused.
I'll give her that.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It just yeah, we're going to allow the law enforcement
to investigate things, all right, That's not we can't. We're
not one of those people who believe all women because
you know what I'm saying, just because you're a woman
doesn't make meet you a truth teller. So you claim
to be a sexual abuse victim, perhaps you are. There
will be an investigation and we'll then find out if
there's a charges brought.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
We'll let that statement stand on its own until we
read more. Then in the midst of all that not
only attacking or throwing aspersions and casting them wide against
Alan Wilson, and she goes on to call out a
couple of the dudes that she claims were actually part
of that illegal activity, and that was in her case,
is that you know, she made law enforcement aware of
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her allegations and they did nothing to protect her. So
now a couple of those guys in particular, have launched
back with their own lawsuits. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I mean, when you're standing, you know, in the middle
of the house floor giving a speech and you're calling
out people by name as to who sexually abused you.
They're going to have to respond to that in some way,
and they have. And you know, just like in the
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Egene Carroll case, when Egene Carroll said that Donald Trump
sexually assaulted her in a It wasn't Macy's, but it
was one of those types of stores Burgoff or whatever
up in New York and Barney's I think it was,
And he said, no, I didn't. She then sued him
for defamation of character. So that's what we have going
on here. Nancy May is suing a guy named Eric
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Bowman who falsely claimed that he didn't sexually assault her
and then also falsely claimed, according to her, that Mace,
this is an interesting twist of a phrase, abused her
power by helping friends and political allies secure federal contracts
from the Department of Veterans Affairs. And specifically, what he's
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talking about is his ex wife is the head of
one of these things in Mount Pleasant, and obviously Nancy
Mace's friends with her and that agency, the Department of
Veterans Affairs, ended up working out a contract with that
lady in Mount Pleasant. I don't think that that's an
abuse of power. So to his point, I don't think
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that that's kind of what congress people are supposed to do,
is to try to secure contracts for people in their districts.
And so I would actually applaud Nancy Mace for if
that's what actually happened, I wouldn't called an abuse of power.
But she's suing him over that as well.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Now the implication is, obviously is that Nancy May specifically
went to Brocary. I hope I'm saying that correctly. That's
the digital software company of Mount Pleasant. The CEO is
mister Bowman's estranged wife, Melissa Britton, and he she in fact,
is using her power, I guess, is like a the
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Scrontold Female Club to go after this guy or or
otherwise make his life miserable. So, and there's a lot
of money that was thrown around here. It's like eight
hundred and thirty nine millions, well th thousand, excuse me,
eight hundred and thirty one, two hundred and eighteen dollars
is twenty twenty one. That was when she first became
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a member of Congress. So it's going to be interesting
that we have another lawsuit that one's going on. As
they lost, they sue each other. And then there was
another suit brought by again named Brian Musgrave of Fort Mill,
another one of the men that may accused of being
a predator in her February tenth floor speed. So there's
already a lawsuited place for that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, I mean, look, the bigger overarching theme I think
that we see here with Nancy Mace is she is
very concerned about getting social media eyeballs. She throws bombs
and then hopes that it will get lots of clicks.
The reality of the situation is she's pretty good at
that sort of stuff. I mean, she can get eyeballs.
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The problem that she's facing is that most people who
are going to vote in a GOP primary in South
Carolina don't like what she's saying. They're not they don't
want to hear any of this. If you really believe
that Alan Wilson is a sexual predator, or at the
very least as coddling perverts, then the angle to take
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is to just beat him. You don't you're not in
a position, you don't hold the cards, as Donald Trump
would say, to come out with a bombshell revel like
that without any paperwork. She's got a six minute video
of herself talking on her ex account this morning, where
she's she's saying she's holding up the papers. This is
a thirty seven page receipt of Alan Wilson coddling a
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pervert in Charleston. She names the pervert and she named it.
At no point does she bring forth any proof that
Alan Wilson did anything in this thing. Again, he's a prosecutor.
He's not a cop. He cannot go and arrest people.
If the cops bring them the information. He can only
charge them with what the law allows him to charge
them with the fact that you know, look, you are
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a house member in this state, and you should know
that if you're charged as a somebody an online sex crime,
it's considered a nonviolent crime. She's very pissed off that
he didn't check the violent part on the back. He
can't check the If you don't like that, you could
have changed the law when you were a lawmaker in
this state, but you didn't change it.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You read through both of these articles. They were both
in the posting career. If you're looking for them, you
read through both of these articles. You keep seeing words
pop it up again. It just dawned on me that
in the middle of these headlines and also the actual
content and the quotes inside. You can't spell the word
malice without mace. It's m a l I ce and
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is it a lie? I don't know. That's the thing.
We have to wait until it plays out, and in
this case, excuse me, in these cases, it has to
all play out in the court of law for us
to determine, according to a judge or the jury, which
side do you believe what evidence was being offered to
make you believe that she in fact went after Bowman
by supporting or attacking him, but also supporting as a strange.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Wife, or I don't think they were as strange. By
the way, just as a side note, that contract started
in twenty twenty one. He's still married to her in
twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's right, he was, So I don't know anyway, all
of that. We will make sure a couple of things.
We're not saying she's lying about in a sexual abuse victim.
We don't know. We have to wait till the plays
out in court. We don't know if she has malice
inside her Nancy May's name, and we don't know until
it plays out in court. Now, I have no reason
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to believe that Alan Wilson is protecting predators, sexual or otherwise,
or any criminal in the state of South Carolina. Now,
did she bring evidence to prove that's the case. We'll
find out. All of that's going to be brought out
as we get ready for the big governors race, which
won't officially start until Tim munths from now.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I would just say everything you said is absolutely true,
and I would just add to it, she's a horrible politician,
because this is not how you win a GOP primary
in the state of South Carolina. You're driving donors from
you if anybody who's donating to your campaign right now
is probably an out of state person. The people of
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South Carolina are actually disgusted by the social media posts
and the firebombs and the allegation and the gotchas and
all that. Look at the people that they've elected as
governor just in this century. You know, you can start
with Mark Sandford. He let off the century. Mark Sandford
the most boring guy you'll ever meet. I wouldn't say
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that Nicky Haley was the star of any party either.
And then you got Henry McMaster. I mean, he's famous
because he sounds a little bit well, we won't go
into that imitation that people do of him, but I mean,
he's not an exciting, flamboyant character, nor are most Republican.
I can't think of a flamboyant Republican governor anywhere. Ron
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de Santis may be the biggest one out there, probably,
but Ron DeSantis doesn't throw firebombs at Republicans.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
There is such a thing as bad publicity. I know
the old saying any publicity is good publicity. I think
you're rewriting that
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan, they're giving us a free jet.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I could say, no, no, no, don't give us.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I want to pay you a billion or four hundred
million or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Kelly Nash, Well.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I can say thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Jonathan and Kelly show. Wo oh in the tragedy that
that now it's set the music to Donald and the Jet.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I did appreciate the lesson on Sam Snead that he
gave us. Sam Snead used to say, if they give
you the putt, you say thank you very much. Yeah,
you say thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Because if you put it, you miss it, then your
partner gets mad at you. You got to walk to
the next tea box listening to him grumble. They're giving
me a free jet.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And that's the thing. They're not giving Donald Trump a
free jet. They're giving the United States a free jet.
And the United States Department of Defense is accepting that
jet and they're going to retrofit it so that it
is a safe for the Commander in chief to fly
in that we're.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Going to sweep it from wing tip to wing tip.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, they're going to add in extra armor and they're
going to add in all kinds of extra things that
only Air Force one would have. And then the plan
is because Donald Trump, ironically back in twenty nineteen, ordered
from Boeing a new Air Force One, which still has
not been delivered yet. So the plan is that when
he retires or ends his presidency here in almost three
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and a half years from now, that this jet will
then go as again it's not his personal property, it
will go to the Trump Memorial Library. The new Air
Force One will be commissioned at that point. So he's
going to save a couple extra miles on the new
one for the next president, and we should be able
to keep that one for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know, in reality, I believe you know, even if
Boeing says, look, you might as well go ahead and
take it, because it's going to take another four years
for us to crank out this Air Force One that
we actually got under contract seven years ago. But you
you still have to go through as is mentioned Kelly said,
you got to upgrade it to Air Force one quality.
You got to sweep it obviously for any type of
devices that may be put in there nefariously. So all
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that has to be that takes a tremendous amount of time.
So it's not like you're going to have Donald Trump
flying in this jet next week.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I was listening to what's the US representative from New
York's name?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Dan Goldberg? Gold Mun Goldman? Okay, he's a more on.
Dan Goldman was on CNN, I think it was yesterday
talking about how this is an impeachable offense and it's
the largest case of bribery he's ever seen.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
In the history in the history of the world.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And that the United States Constitution makes it very clear,
abundantly clear, that the United States cannot accept gifts from
foreign governments. And I thought to myself, well, Dan, one
of the greatest symbols in American history was a gift
from France that we'd like to call the Statue of Liberty.
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Should we dig up Grover Cleveland and try his butt
for accepting that. Should we dig up Woodrow Wilson, who
accepted roughly nine million dollars worth of Japanese trees and
planted them all around the water basin there in Washington,
d C. To give us the cherry blossoms every year?
Should we this guy's a moron? The United States government
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receives gifts all the time. Now, the real story to me, Jonathan,
that a lot of people aren't talking about is why
is Cutter doing this? And you might notice at the
same time, Cutter didn't even work with the Israelis to
get the one of the IDF soldiers also an American
citizen released. Cutter is a horrible group of people who
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run that country. They are They support terrorism to the
fullest extent. When Hamas was rising to power, there was
only two countries on the face of the earth. They
couldn't even get the support of Iran. Hamas only had
two countries, Turkey and Cutter. Those were the only two
countries who endorsed them. They have been funding terrorism through
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Hamas at literally tens of millions of dollars a year.
They are one of the architects behind what happened to
the Israelis. That all happened while Joe Biden was there.
If you remember when Joe Biden met the head of Cutter,
he didn't want to shake his hand, so he gave
him a very awkward fist bump that was bizarre beyond belief.
But neither here nor there, but Cutter now knows, oh crap,
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the Godfather's back, and so we're so sorry for what
we've done. We're gonna go get the only US citizen
that's left in there. We're gonna save him. We're going
to get him out, and please accept this four hundred
million dollar jet as a sorry note, and we're gonna
fall in line while you're the president. I imagine it
(04:52):
was kind of like Luca BRASSEI remember Luca Brosse and
the Godfather is getting ready to meet the Godfather and
he's like rehearsing his lines. Our first child be a
manly child or whatever. That's how I imagine the head of
Cutter getting ready to meet Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You know, it's funny because I think it was Ram
Paul is the only person I saw on a television interview.
Now it could be other people, maybe a Democrat, there's
only Ram Paul who pointed out the reality of the
situation is is that this country does not have a
great track record with the people that they have supported
in the past financially, and Hamas certainly is a glaring
example of that. But it just seems like to me
that this country comes off as they got so much money,
(05:29):
you know, they show up at the Kentucky Derby, and
they bet on every damn horse in the race.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And if they lose, they buy the Kentucky Derby exactly.
We now own it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Got we got so much money, you's going to make
sure that we got some money on the on the
head of every person in the race. And in this
particular case, when Donald Trump comes into the mix, as
it were internationally as the president, in particular as the Donald,
then you're obviously going to find a way to butter
him up. Now is this buttering him up? I don't know.
(05:57):
I got to tell you something. I'm kind of like Trump,
if you can get the military to sweep it. I mean,
for Pete's say, we trust people here in the US,
some of them have proven not very trustworthy. We've even
taken in stuff we bought from other countries they didn't
sweep efficiently, like the cargo cranes they put in Miami
from Japan from China who put little radio Wi Fi
(06:20):
towers in all of them so they can hack into
the city's infrastructure. So there's a lot of different things
that the US is going to be on top of,
having to do with taking the plane and then making
sure that it is secure in such a way that
it could be used as Air Force One. And then
you're right, Kelly, it's not like we've never done this before.
And I don't know if the new Air Force one
isn't ready. When whoever takes over and Donald Trump steps down,
(06:42):
does it automatically go to the Library of Congress, I
mean the Presidential Library, much like the one they have
a Ronald Reagan. I believe JFK's got one of his
hangar as well, so we got plenty of these around
after we make sure the security measures in place. I
don't know what the big pushback is other than we've
got to find every opportunity to give every decision that
(07:02):
Donald Trump ever made, and we've got to come on
and whine about it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well, yes, that's exactly what's going on. And Donald Trump
was asked point blank by the very fake news at
ABC News, it's your personal gift, and he said, I
will never fly in it personally. I don't want it
and I don't need it personally. It's for the United
It's a gift to the people of the United States
of America. From cutter cutter, look horrible people. Yes, they're
(07:30):
trying to get in on our good side, because now
we have somebody in power who could erase them from
the face of the earth if he chose to do so.
And is the kind of guy who might do that
or could erase their top leadership if he chose to
do so. And he has done that with certain nations
in the past where suddenly they woke up with a
missile in their pocket.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You know, I don't know the answer to this question,
and you will. Is Donald Trump currently being paid the
presidential salary or did he forego that like he did
in his first administration.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Well, if I'm going to play the Democrats game, you're
talking about who's giving up roughly what three hundred thousand
dollars a year to pocket a four hundred million dollar jet.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Jonathan, No, what I'm saying, why would it be allowed
under the government? Law and the constitution should not even
allow this that you put a person in a position
where they could actually be financially now compromise to the
extent that the country could come in and make the
difference when you're simply taking the money to the bottom
line put it back at the treasury.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, they would say, again using a Democrats argument, they
would say that the Constitution prohibits a person being financially
compromised from another government. And yet that's what Donald Trump's
blatantly doing right in front of you. He's accepting a bribe,
and we can't stop him because he's also got the
Department of Justice under his thumb and they've already fast
(08:44):
tracked the approval of this.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
There you go, all right. So I guess now that
they take this to court, we're gonna look for the
Supreme Court the weigh in whether Trump can step foot.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I don't think that there's a possibility for it to
go to the Supreme Court because it's it's not an
actionable thing. The Departartment of Justice is not prosecuting. Yeah,
the Department of Justice has decided that this does not
meet that qualification. You can't sue a law enforcement agency
for Look, it's kind of like when we tried to
(09:14):
sue the federal government as conservatives because they were not
enforcing the law on the border, and we lost. The
Supreme Court said, you.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Can't do that. You don't have standing. You don't have standing,
not even on your own land. No, sir, you can't.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So they're certainly not going to prosecute them, or go
after the Department of Justice for not prosecuting Donald Trump
for accepting a gift to the United States.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Now, maybe I misunderstood the first interpretation of this conversation
that was being held. Was it like a week ago
where they said it had already been cleared by the
Department Justice and they referenced some type of international clearance.
I'm like, I don't even know what you're talking about.
But plainly they had already asked the legality of it
all before they even accepted the office. Yes, so there
(09:59):
you go. Now continue with your wining Democrats, find something
else to whine about, or go body slam somebody at
the DOJ. Good luck, all right, Now, see what else
is going on? Well, we got the big the big
visit going on today? Was it four stops? He's gonna
make a three he's over there in the Middle East, right,
(10:19):
three or four, and he's gonna come back with And
this will be huge because their goal is to come
back with one trillion dollars to announce in investments here
in America. So if you can get different companies to
announce at the return or during whatever the case may be,
(10:40):
a trillion dollars of investments in the America. In America
so far as actual business investments, that will be huge.
I don't even know how you Trump last weekend, but
if he can do that this coming weekend when he
gets back, that's huge. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I mean, the Trump administration is on a role right now,
and it's just driving Democrats insane.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Speaking of people going insane and what would seemingly be
either grasping for power or clinging to it, seems like
half the Democrat Party at this point is clinging to power,
Chuck Schumer in the like. The other half is grasping
for President Hogg. As we have referenced him for many years,
(11:26):
even before he even gained national notoriety, we would calling
him President Hogg. We could see the power dancing in
his eyes. A couple of interesting comments he made an
interview the other day. But we also have Nancy May
who is starting to sling some serious mud now, and
Alan Wilson says, I've heard enough of it. We're not
(11:46):
going to lie about me anymore. He came out, I
guess it was over the weekend with his first social
media statement about this. Nancy May says basically that Alan
Wilson is going out of his way, as she would
have you believe, to make sure that person's, in particular
pedophiles are not being held accountable to the law, and
these plea deals being able to let them walk the
streets and putting us all at harm.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting because if Nancy Mace's accusations
were true, you would think that of every sheriff in
South Carolina, some of them would have called them out
on that. I mean, we have democrats who are heading
counties and stuff. Every one of them is lining up
(12:29):
behind Alan Wilson. None of them are talking about he's
protecting pedophiles. As a matter of fact, Alan Wilson one
of the things that she talks about in her video
that she's got pinned to the top of her ex
account right now, is that she doesn't want to call
out law enforcement. She thinks law enforcement's doing a great job.
And she talks about is AC ICAC, which is basically
(12:51):
designed to go after child predators. And he mentioned in
his since I took office, me and my office have
grown the ice AC Task Force four times its original
size and executed three thousand arrests year after year. We're
upping the amount of people that we're catching. So for
(13:13):
her to say that he's I don't know what he's doing.
I mean if you read her, not only would you
if you listen to what she says, but then you
look at the comments that are being made in her
social media feed. People are talking about how only a
predator would protect another predator, and that's the way she's
portraying it that Alan Wilson is at minimum protecting child molesters.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Alan Wilson accused Mas of launching attacks against him either
out of ignorance from malice, and then continue the quote,
I would never assign malice when stupidity will suffice.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's a great line.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's a great line, all right. So now on top
of all that, and she goes on to give him
great career advice, I think your career path executing pedophiles
rather than protecting them. Then we have the story of
the lawsuits. Now put all that aside for a second.
So remember when this is where it mixes and mingles.
(14:14):
When she stood on the house floor and started her
first attacks against Alan Wilson, it was based on her
experience as a sexual abuse victim. I am not making
jokes about that at all. She claims she was sexually abused.
I'll give her that.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It just yeah, we're going to allow the law enforcement
to investigate things, all right, That's not we can't. We're
not one of those people who believe all women because
you know what I'm saying, just because you're a woman
doesn't make meet you a truth teller. So you claim
to be a sexual abuse victim, perhaps you are. There
will be an investigation and we'll then find out if
there's a charges brought.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
We'll let that statement stand on its own until we
read more. Then in the midst of all that not
only attacking or throwing aspersions and casting them wide against
Alan Wilson, and she goes on to call out a
couple of the dudes that she claims were actually part
of that illegal activity, and that was in her case,
is that you know, she made law enforcement aware of
(15:11):
her allegations and they did nothing to protect her. So
now a couple of those guys in particular, have launched
back with their own lawsuits. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I mean, when you're standing, you know, in the middle
of the house floor giving a speech and you're calling
out people by name as to who sexually abused you.
They're going to have to respond to that in some way,
and they have. And you know, just like in the
(15:39):
Egene Carroll case, when Egene Carroll said that Donald Trump
sexually assaulted her in a It wasn't Macy's, but it
was one of those types of stores Burgoff or whatever
up in New York and Barney's I think it was,
And he said, no, I didn't. She then sued him
for defamation of character. So that's what we have going
on here. Nancy May is suing a guy named Eric
(16:03):
Bowman who falsely claimed that he didn't sexually assault her
and then also falsely claimed, according to her, that Mace,
this is an interesting twist of a phrase, abused her
power by helping friends and political allies secure federal contracts
from the Department of Veterans Affairs. And specifically, what he's
(16:25):
talking about is his ex wife is the head of
one of these things in Mount Pleasant, and obviously Nancy
Mace's friends with her and that agency, the Department of
Veterans Affairs, ended up working out a contract with that
lady in Mount Pleasant. I don't think that that's an
abuse of power. So to his point, I don't think
(16:47):
that that's kind of what congress people are supposed to do,
is to try to secure contracts for people in their districts.
And so I would actually applaud Nancy Mace for if
that's what actually happened, I wouldn't called an abuse of power.
But she's suing him over that as well.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Now the implication is, obviously is that Nancy May specifically
went to Brocary. I hope I'm saying that correctly. That's
the digital software company of Mount Pleasant. The CEO is
mister Bowman's estranged wife, Melissa Britton, and he she in fact,
is using her power, I guess, is like a the
(17:25):
Scrontold Female Club to go after this guy or or
otherwise make his life miserable. So, and there's a lot
of money that was thrown around here. It's like eight
hundred and thirty nine millions, well th thousand, excuse me,
eight hundred and thirty one, two hundred and eighteen dollars
is twenty twenty one. That was when she first became
(17:45):
a member of Congress. So it's going to be interesting
that we have another lawsuit that one's going on. As
they lost, they sue each other. And then there was
another suit brought by again named Brian Musgrave of Fort Mill,
another one of the men that may accused of being
a predator in her February tenth floor speed. So there's
already a lawsuited place for that.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, I mean, look, the bigger overarching theme I think
that we see here with Nancy Mace is she is
very concerned about getting social media eyeballs. She throws bombs
and then hopes that it will get lots of clicks.
The reality of the situation is she's pretty good at
that sort of stuff. I mean, she can get eyeballs.
(18:29):
The problem that she's facing is that most people who
are going to vote in a GOP primary in South
Carolina don't like what she's saying. They're not they don't
want to hear any of this. If you really believe
that Alan Wilson is a sexual predator, or at the
very least as coddling perverts, then the angle to take
(18:51):
is to just beat him. You don't you're not in
a position, you don't hold the cards, as Donald Trump
would say, to come out with a bombshell revel like
that without any paperwork. She's got a six minute video
of herself talking on her ex account this morning, where
she's she's saying she's holding up the papers. This is
a thirty seven page receipt of Alan Wilson coddling a
(19:16):
pervert in Charleston. She names the pervert and she named it.
At no point does she bring forth any proof that
Alan Wilson did anything in this thing. Again, he's a prosecutor.
He's not a cop. He cannot go and arrest people.
If the cops bring them the information. He can only
charge them with what the law allows him to charge
them with the fact that you know, look, you are
(19:39):
a house member in this state, and you should know
that if you're charged as a somebody an online sex crime,
it's considered a nonviolent crime. She's very pissed off that
he didn't check the violent part on the back. He
can't check the If you don't like that, you could
have changed the law when you were a lawmaker in
this state, but you didn't change it.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You read through both of these articles. They were both
in the posting career. If you're looking for them, you
read through both of these articles. You keep seeing words
pop it up again. It just dawned on me that
in the middle of these headlines and also the actual
content and the quotes inside. You can't spell the word
malice without mace. It's m a l I ce and
(20:20):
is it a lie? I don't know. That's the thing.
We have to wait until it plays out, and in
this case, excuse me, in these cases, it has to
all play out in the court of law for us
to determine, according to a judge or the jury, which
side do you believe what evidence was being offered to
make you believe that she in fact went after Bowman
by supporting or attacking him, but also supporting as a strange.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Wife, or I don't think they were as strange. By
the way, just as a side note, that contract started
in twenty twenty one. He's still married to her in
twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's right, he was, So I don't know anyway, all
of that. We will make sure a couple of things.
We're not saying she's lying about in a sexual abuse victim.
We don't know. We have to wait till the plays
out in court. We don't know if she has malice
inside her Nancy May's name, and we don't know until
it plays out in court. Now, I have no reason
(21:13):
to believe that Alan Wilson is protecting predators, sexual or otherwise,
or any criminal in the state of South Carolina. Now,
did she bring evidence to prove that's the case. We'll
find out. All of that's going to be brought out
as we get ready for the big governors race, which
won't officially start until Tim munths from now.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I would just say everything you said is absolutely true,
and I would just add to it, she's a horrible politician,
because this is not how you win a GOP primary
in the state of South Carolina. You're driving donors from
you if anybody who's donating to your campaign right now
is probably an out of state person. The people of
(21:53):
South Carolina are actually disgusted by the social media posts
and the firebombs and the allegation and the gotchas and
all that. Look at the people that they've elected as
governor just in this century. You know, you can start
with Mark Sandford. He let off the century. Mark Sandford
the most boring guy you'll ever meet. I wouldn't say
(22:16):
that Nicky Haley was the star of any party either.
And then you got Henry McMaster. I mean, he's famous
because he sounds a little bit well, we won't go
into that imitation that people do of him, but I mean,
he's not an exciting, flamboyant character, nor are most Republican.
I can't think of a flamboyant Republican governor anywhere. Ron
(22:39):
de Santis may be the biggest one out there, probably,
but Ron DeSantis doesn't throw firebombs at Republicans.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
There is such a thing as bad publicity. I know
the old saying any publicity is good publicity. I think
you're rewriting that
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