05 15 25 We talk with LT Gov Pamela Evette

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, look.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
At our children is the sickest children in the world.
You say that you've worked for twenty years. I'm getting
food die out. Give me credit. I got it out
in one hundred days, Kelly Nash. Let's work together and
do something that we all believe in, which is have
a healthy kids in our country for God's sake.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Jonathan and Kelly Show, woc work together.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Who you think you're talking to. I can't be seen
working alone with the administrator Trump administrated nominee on anything
I got. Unlike Gee, I have a constituency to answer
to over here.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Whenever say he's being pretty presumptive and assuming that we
all want to save our children, that's pretty presumptive of.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
You there, exactly.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
I mean, goodness, great, have you not heard how we
define healthcare?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, these kids aren't even safe in the uterus. It's right,
you think they're gonna be safe once they're born into
this atmosphere.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Goodness great, political.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Department, divisive nature because we're trying to save democracy over
here for God's sake. While Donald Trump goes to the
Middle East. Can you imagine making your first much like
you did the last time you were in office. Your
first trip overseas is to the Middle East.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
But he didn't even bow like Obama taught him, giving
the pist bump like Biden Joe to Sleepy Joe fistbump
because he was embarrassed to shake his hand.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
And all he's doing is peddling business for himself and
his family. Eric Trump was just there a month ago.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
So when we hear about these billions of dollars in business,
that's all going to the Trump organization.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yes, okay, yes, for God's sake. How much money has
he racked up on the commitments so far? And even
if he had do we have signed agreements? I THINKSNBC
will ask.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
I think yesterday it was one point four trillion.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Whow amazing how much money he's bringing back for investments
into these United States of America. I say united as
if we are these divided states of America.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Well, you know what, Donald Trump is doing something that Look,
it's not conservative. We've been saying this for a long time.
He is not a conservative person and this is not
a conservative thing. But like when he says we're going
to open up Syria and give him another shot at greatness.
Conservatives heads exploded about that. You can go and find
like a conservative podcast where the people's heads exploded. How

(02:22):
could you do this. You're rewarding terrorists, You're giving them
an opportunity at the American dream. They don't like it.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
He was quaking to point it out. He was already
technically already listed as a terrorist technically because of his
past associations.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah. So, but here's what Donald Trump's vision seems to be.
He hasn't come out out and said it, I don't
think explicitly, but it's kind of a little bit along
with the terms of what Obama used to say, which
was if you give them. The reason they're terrorists is
they don't have enough money basically, and what Trump is
doing now seems to be not only he is showing

(03:01):
you what prosperity looks like, and then he's telling you
you can.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Have this creating for your own country.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Don't lose it. I mean, I don't know if you
saw the streets of Syria on social media, but that
was a pretty incredible scene last night. They got they
like on their big screen, like in their version of
Times Square. They're all showing Donald Trump, and they're waving

(03:30):
American flags and flip in Syria right now. The idea
that we could flip Syria to pro American democracy or
even don't even go with democracy. Capitalism that's where we're going.
And then I heard a guy yesterday. I hadn't heard
anything about this America It's like America Trust Account or

(03:50):
something like that. Apparently that's one of the ideas that
Trump is coming out with where they want to get
it approved in this budget, the Beautiful Bill, So then
for next year is when it would start, but they
would retrofit it to forty million kids. So if you're
under the age of eighteen, if this passes, you get

(04:12):
one thousand dollars, but the thousand dollars goes into an
account that the government sets up for you, and you
can't have access to it until you're eighteen, I think.
But it would be set to the S and P
five hundred and then family members, businesses, whomever could put
money into your So he was talking about you're going

(04:33):
to have seven and eight year olds talking about the
stock market. Inner city black kids who've never had a
taste of a stock market in their lives are going
to go Hey, the market's up today. What if we
could get another ten dollars into our stock accounts?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
And you've always heard don't give kids stocks because they
constantly do nothing but focus on money. But in this
particular version, it gives people at the very youngest understanding
of free market is free markets and also capitalism. Who
happen to be born in America. If you're looking for
a way to unite people, find a way to have

(05:10):
people work together for the betterment of themselves first, and
then others also benefit, and then you really create a team.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
He's really just trying to drive capitalism. It's not even democracy.
It's not like you have to have the American dream,
because it's certainly not democracy in Saudi Arabia like their version.
But it looks great over there and they're all happy,
it seems.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
But if you can find a way to get people
to have just a taste of patriotism with their own
self driven motives, which is easy to tap in humanistically
so and this also plays in with what he wants
to do with the availability of what well, the first
initiative is going to be with the Ukraine, so that
we globally now invest ourselves as we vest younger Americans

(05:53):
into the system so that we globally invest with other
countries so that we have a commonality, which would not
only put people like putin a g in a box
and hold off the Chinese trying to supplant the American
dollar in the petro market, the petro dollar and otherwise
as being the currency of priority amongst all persons on

(06:14):
this planet. But it also then puts the US and
an opportunity, so we do see a return on that investment.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, and again I just feel like you know, George Bush,
I'm talking specifically of W but a little bit HW
as well. They wanted to instill American values into people
in the Middle East and other parts of the world,
and that blew up in their faces and people were
talking about it all the time. Is you cannot change cultures.

(06:42):
You can't change cultures. Culture is what culture is, and
it's just decided by the people who live there and
whoever the culture leaders are at that time. So that's
not your job. But if you Trump's like bump it,
I'm not trying to change their culture. You'll want to
be homophone and you're beheading You're beheading your gay members
of your that's on you. You all run your country

(07:05):
the way you want to run your country, but can't.
Wouldn't you like to be prosperous. Wouldn't you like to
have nice things while you're beheading the homosexuals while you're
whatever it is that you're doing.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I fare a long, hard day beheading homosexuals. Yeah. Would
you like to go home to a nice, comfortable place
where the air conditioner works and your wife used like
a modern appliance, like a stove.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
And she can put out a perfume that smells good
to you, not to us, but to you whatever it
is that you like to do. But you need money
to do all these things. And I think that'll I mean, obviously,
you're not going to win over the whole world. You
can't even win over the whole country here, but a
large section of the world seems to be lining up
with us, And by the way, that helps us with

(07:48):
our argument against China. China is trying to become a capitalistic,
dominant country. They want to be the number one country.
We're isolated them right now from a lot of trading partners,
and as we bring more trading partners online, part of
that's going to be you got to run all that
through us before you get to China. So it's man,

(08:09):
this is amazing what we're seeing happening right now.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, you give SyRI an opportunity to actually increase their
position by there and by their own admission. Whether whether
the guy's telling us the truth or not, I don't know.
So that's all going to be history because we'll have
to watch it fold. But if he's in a more
moderate position now as you're hearing on CNN, now Poyees
does a more moderate than the previous administration in Shuria. Okay, well,

(08:36):
let's just take it for face value. For what it
is is see what happens, particularly given that all those
people in charge of those countries want to retain their power.
At some point, you've got to make sure, unlike Ze,
you got to make sure that you are actually doing
something for your constituency because peace in your streets means
a lot so far as the security of your palace.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Were they upset when Obama and Biden would drop off
palettes of cash to known terrorists, They didn't seem that upset.
And again, it's it's almost the same thing, but it's
different because when you drop off a couple of billion
dollars in cash. What is it you feed a man
for a day, you feed a feed a tyrant for
a couple of weeks with that billions of dollars in cash.
But if you teach them how to make money themselves

(09:17):
and allow them to make money, yeah, yeah, we've taken
off the tariffs. You can go ahead and do your
own thing sanctions off. Well, then they have this opportunity
at prosperity. The only thing we're going to be monitoring,
I would imagine, is how are they developing weapons. If
they're developing weapons that can threaten us, we're gonna put
some cabots on that. But we want you to be free, prosperous,

(09:38):
run your countries the way you want to run your countries. Remember,
and I had this other thought the other day too,
that America is like the alpha dog. And I learned
from what's his name, Caesar the guy or Cesario the
guy who is doing the dog show back in the day.
In the dog world, you need an alpha to run things.
And if like the dog is not an alpha, but

(10:00):
you're not a strong pet owner, that dog becomes very
irritable because it needs that leadership. The world needs a
leader and it's either going to be now China or US,
and so we better rise up to where we need
to be as the big boss dog. And it seems
like we're doing that. And you see the people in
the Middle East are yes, Donald Trump as strong as hell.

(10:24):
We love that about him. Come on in, big boss man.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
It is truly the antithesis to what the talking heads
on Heritage media will leads you to believe. We're trying
to get order in the chaos in the Middle East.
We're not releasing chaos across the world, which is the
way that they describe the Trump administration. I know, so
it is exactly the opposite. And the breakneck speed that

(10:48):
this guy is doing it then is friggin' head spinning.
The Democrats biggest complaint is, wait a minute, we're not
finished bitching about whatever it is you want to bitch
about today, Jia's birthright, cityship, citizenship arguments in the Supreme Court.
They won't be a to get through this news cycle
on this story with their complaints before there's something else
that happens. And he's doing it at such breakneck speed.

(11:09):
I loved it. I never saw a confirmation on this
from the initial post on x but a Democrat posted
up that Donald Trump fell asleep during one of the
meetings in the Middle East, And for me, I'm thinking, what,
no damn wonder can you imagine just keeping up with
this guy Monday through Friday in one time zone. He
just skipped over six time zones and now he's working

(11:32):
in the middle of the night. Meanwhile, you got Debbie
Dingle over there who was just passed out. By the way,
did you see the explanation of why she passed out, Well,
you were telling me that she's been fighting so hard
forty eight hours non actually forty hours, forty hours non
stop without sleep, because she's fighting against the Republicans, no
matter what they tell you, are going to cut Social
Security and Medicare and Medicaid, and she's fighting for that.

(11:56):
And she's been up for She was up for forty
hours NonStop with Democrats and at the DAOs. Of course,
she fell asleep a little bit.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
I tagged her in my post yesterday because her and
Jan Schakowski both fell asleep yesterday in Congress.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
And so what, well, just to make sure that you
understand what kind of commitment level she has here, this morning.
In her interview, she pointed out step aside, Donald Trump,
you ain't busy, she pointed out, on Saturday when she
goes home, she has fourteen fourteen events she'll be attending
just on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, but the point of my video that I posted
on my x account was that Jan Schakowski and Debbie
Dingle fell asleep because they've been fighting so damn hard
for it to save democracy and obstruct Donald Trump as
best they can, and they did it as long as
they possibly could, which was just over three months. Now,
what are you going to do for the next three

(12:53):
and a half years when your representatives have tuckered out?
You're probably not planning a re election campaign because you
if you look in the comments on the Dingle and
the Schakowski ex accounts, their constituents are beyond pissed your
sound of sleep, as we're out here fighting for democracy.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
The fight is on, the struggle is now. You're falling
asleep on the front line.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, it's the rev it's the civil war, and you're
just sitting here sleeping on the battlefield outside of you know,
a rowan oak, Virginia or something.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
All right, thank you for being here. By the way,
and we have a very special guest. I believe the
hot line, the double Secret Probationary hotline is ringing for us,
and I know who it is. Kelly Nash.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Welcome on the phone.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
South Carolina's Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Evan, Good morning.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Good morning. How are you guys doing.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
We're doing good, but like a lot of South Carolinians,
we're waiting for the finalized word on the budget, which
we know has to come down by the end of
the month, so hooray. But we did have some legislative wins.
Do you think in your perspective from the General Assembly?
What's your review on that?

Speaker 5 (13:58):
I do? I do soolidated Mental Health and daotis, which
I think is good. The more we can streamline these
departments together, we take away the silos, we make it
easier to deliver services to South Carolinian, so I think
that is a huge win. We'd pass tort reform and

(14:19):
several liability, which I think is not exactly where I
would want it to be one hundred percent as a
business person myself. But we're making strides and I think
getting rid of the liquor liability will help our restauranteers.
It will help our local BFW's right. So what I
hear from my attorney friends is that now the bar

(14:41):
ensuing is willful wanton neglect, which is a really high bar,
which is good. I'm hoping this will spark insurance companies
to relook at our market because it's the only way
we'll drive down rights. And then we have something that
we've talked about all the time and I know is
important to you guys, is school choice getting closer and

(15:02):
closer to true full school choice with a vouchering system
to do that money following the child. This bill makes
it possible for true school choice to happen by the
twenty seven to twenty eight school year, which we know
will blink and it will be here. And then energy
energy came across the finish line. This is something that

(15:24):
Governor and I were really pushing for. If South Carolina
wants to keep growing, we have to be top of
our game on energy. It has to stay affordable and reliable.
And with this bill it opens the doors to small
moduli nuclear actors. But what it really does is it
gets rid of some of those burdensome regulations that gets

(15:47):
harder and harder to distribute energy. So Governor has been
busy signing bills. Him and I were together yesterday talking
about him, and you'll see us picking a lot of
them and doing some ceremony bill signings around the state.
So people really understand what got passed this year and
why we're so excited about it.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Talking with the Lieutenant Governor Pamela of it, wondering your
thoughts on the budget, which has not yet been completely
worked out. The House was really patting themselves on the
back back in April with when they passed their version,
which is by far the largest in South Carolina history.

(16:27):
It seemed like Harvey Peeler and the Senators were trying
to actually maybe make some cuts to the budget. How
do you think this is going to play out?

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Well?

Speaker 5 (16:36):
The last I heard that they were they were really
close to agreeing on the budget. I think what you're
going to see this year is something that Governor and
I have talked about. You know, y'all, I'm an accountant
by trade. Transparency has been big, and the Governor has
been saying that forever, if you're going to put something
on the budget, let the people of South Carolina know

(16:58):
what they're spending their hard earn money on and be
able to defend it. So you're going to see it.
I think a lot of cuts in the budget. We're
going to see some tax some tax decreases that'll happen
for the people of South Carolina, which is always a
big plus. And so you know, I think it's going
to I think you're going to see the budget. I'm

(17:18):
feeling hopeful that the budget's going to come out here
pretty quickly.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
We've had a pretty favorable really coming from the South
Carolina Supreme Court having to do with the abortion bill,
and I know that, as we mentioned before, you mentioned
it here in this conversation, you've got to think what
you can get when you can get a lot of
people unhappy with the six week but that's what we
ended up getting. And then now we have now we
have more good news. But will this inspire the faithful

(17:42):
and the hard right to come at it again? Do
you think?

Speaker 5 (17:45):
You know, I think this is a win that we
should all be very happy about because we're saving the
unborn here in South Carolina, and we have a Supreme
Court that literally used the law and constitution to make
their ruling right and that personal belief, which is why
this ended up being upheld. And you know, I think,

(18:08):
I think everybody. I'll always strive to try to make
sure that you know, abortions don't happen in our state
and our country. At least that's my hope, right that
there's a day when we don't see this. What I'm
really passionate about is, you know, we've got this big
win in six weeks is a is a big win
for South Carolina, which to me always was common sense.

(18:28):
Right if you use a heartbeat as your litmus test
for death, why isn't the heartbeat the litmus test for life?
Seems kind of simplistic to me. But what what I
want to hope now is something that South Carolina Citizens
for Life life. Holly Gatling and Lisa Van Riiper and
I talked about this, and you know, you guys big

(18:49):
supporters of that. Is always great to have your humor
on stage every time we have the big South Carolina
Citizens for Life evening event. But is now their motto right,
love them both? And how do we take what we're
how do we really try to show that the planned

(19:12):
parenthood and the pro choice people have been wrong for
so long? And that we really do care about everybody.
And now, what are we going to do as a
state to help moms who really want to keep their children?
How do we do really worthwhile programs that break the
cycle of poverty for them, Get them in our wins program,

(19:34):
get them set up for a career so that they
can raise their children, and kind of break the cycle
that they may have been a part of their whole life.
And so I think we have to walk and show
them at the same time, guys, and we have to
now show the compassionate side of what we're doing and
really start helping out. So I think we're going to

(19:55):
continue always to fight on some level, but I think
now there's a there's this whole idea of we have
to prove the other side wrong. And I was happy
to be able to get the General Assembly in the
last budget to really reach out and help children's trust
with the Mom Partnership program. I think you and I

(20:17):
have talked about the successes of that in breaking the
cycle of poverty and making sure that we have healthy
babies when they're born. And if we have healthy babies,
then we have happy moms, and happy moms and dads
get out and work and are productive and secret examples.
So I'm really happy about what's going to continue to

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happen here in our state.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evitt on the phone. You know, when
I'm reading the review of what happened at the South
Carolina Supreme Court this week, you almost lost. And something's
going on where we don't know how to write laws
apparently that are clear and definitive so that they can't
be challenged. Because reading right now, this is from the

(21:01):
Associated Press, the law state's abortions cannot be performed after
an ultrasound can detect cardiac activity or the steady and
repetitive rhythmic contraction of the fetal heartbeat within the gestational sack. Now,
the state says that's six weeks. Planned Parenthood's argument was
that the words after or when they said the steady

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and repetitive rhythmic contraction of the fetal that starts at
nine weeks. And so, according to John Few, they went
back and reviewed the language being used around the state
House in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, and
he said we could find not one instance during the
twenty twenty three legislative session in which anyone connected in

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any way to the General Assembly framed the act as
banning the abortion at nine weeks. Had anybody thrown in
the word nine weeks, we were going to lose that case.
Which is insane to me that we can't write a
law where you can just pull something abstract out of
the air. Like one legislator used the frame the term
nine weeks, and they would have said, well, the Democrats

(22:07):
thought it meant nine weeks, not six, so we got
to go to nine.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
You know, you're right. I think it's the frustration that
happens all the time. We have to be clear and precise,
and that's what I've always said is sometimes we have
to make sure that we we are very clear and
very focused so that we're not ending back up in
court every time we pass the bill on any controversial subject.
And you know it has happened with other things besides

(22:35):
the heartbeat bell, right, So we have to make sure
that when we when we pass something. And that's why
you know, we talked about this the last time we
were together last month. You know, there we all have
ideas that we want to see that in our heart,
our faith guides as to but can it pass the
Constitution and if it can't, then we're spinning our wheels.

(22:56):
So we have to make sure that when we do
things that we are you know, that we're going to
get the end result that we're looking for. And I
think that's exactly what you're saying, is how do we
write these so that we don't end up in court
like we did the very first time the Heartbeat built passed.
So the governor has a great saying, right, measure twice,
cut once, like, make sure we're doing this right before

(23:16):
we get it out and start talking about it. Measure
twice can only cut it once.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Do we measure twice on the energy bill?

Speaker 5 (23:26):
You know? I do believe we have. I think we're
going to do a really good job on that because
we have to. Okay, So I'm very excited about the
fact that we have so much buzz around resurrecting DC Sumner.
You know, there is a great foundation there. I think
bidding has now ended. There's a lot of private companies
that want to use private dollars to come in and

(23:49):
make sure we build up VC Sumner. We have a
direct blueprint with Vogel coming out of Georgia that has
opened that's always a good thing, right, So we're not
we're not the test case on this. And if we
can do that, guys, we will secure energy in our state.
And you know what that does. That creates growth, that
drives down costs. We're getting rid of regulation so that

(24:13):
natural gas can flow down through the PD area much
more easily. So, you know, lots of lots of good things,
not just building, you know, opening the path to getting
nuclear and small modular nuclear actors, but getting rid of
burdens and regulations that make it really hard to distribute energy.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Pimla Evan's on the phone, Lieutenant Governor, any thoughts on
the Republican I don't know what we would call it,
the division that we're seeing right now with I don't
even know if we should mention their names right now,
but we've had pretty two pretty high profile individuals in
the in the Republican Caucus kind of have a it

(24:53):
seems like a public divorce and it's you know, I know,
Ronald Reagan always said, never speak ill of a Republican.
So is there a way to fix this? I mean,
you've got the super majority for the first time in
my lifetime, and it seems like we're blowing it because
we can't get the Republicans united.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
Well, something I've said ever since I've taken office is
that we are stronger when we're united than when we're divided.
And we have to remember what we're fighting against, right
or fighting against the woke Democrat ideology that is lingering
around even in a red state. And so I think

(25:35):
it's really important, and I've said it again time and
time again that we need to band together. We really
believe more than we disagree on, right. And you said it,
Ronald Reagan said, if we believe eighty percent, if we're
an agreement on eighty percent, you're not twenty percent my enemy, right.

(25:57):
So I think sometimes this is what happened, and you
get into supermajorities like we have, you start fighting each
other instead of fighting the other side.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
So I.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Try to pride myself on having great relationships with everybody,
and I'm just hoping that we see everybody coming back together.
Let's row our boat in the same direction. But I
do think we have some great wins with our president.
I don't know about y'all, but talk about the economic
impact that he has generated for South Carolina. In Katari,

(26:28):
yesterday along with Boeing, and in the economic prosperity that
we'll have here in our states. I think the President
is making us proud as Republicans on a world stage.
He's doing deals, he's putting American businesses and American workers first.
He's promoting peace through strength, and I'm really proud of

(26:51):
what he's been able to accomplish in just a few
short days, and stopping to our bases in Qatar and
reaching out to our servicemen and women and thanking them
for what they do.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
I want to ask you one quick note only what
it's not an issue yet we talked about at the
end of our last podcast. Has anyone since we discussed
it last time mentioned the word water to you?

Speaker 5 (27:18):
So no, nobody has been mentioning the word water to me,
and that is something I'm sorry with the undersession. I
did tell you I was going to look into that,
so I'm sorry I didn't, but I will do it
before the next time we get together. There's been a
lot going on with the undiscussion.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
So yes, but I didn't anticipate. I didn't anticipate you
having an answer. More so than is there anybody else
other than me? Screaming as loud as I can over here.
We got a problem coming. I know it sounded like
chicken little And you have mentioned you had said then
that there were three other people that had mentioned the
word water to you. Because that's going to be something

(27:55):
we'll have to deal with in the upcoming session, much
like hopefully we've already put to bed a lot of
the problems with our energy.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Yes, so you know, we have a new director of DNR,
Tom Mulligan, doing a great job bringing light to all
kinds of things, especially water. He is one of those
three people that have always talked about it and guys,
I think he would be a great person to have
on your show because you talk about a knowledgeable guy

(28:21):
when it comes to all kinds of things between coastal
erosion and water and how are we saving you know,
beaches from just you know, the severe impacts of weather
and making sure we keep our coastline and all of
us enjoy it in tact. So he might be a
great kind of like a great person for you to

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have on your show. I think you would love to
hear about everything he has to say.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Well, I'm sure you'd have to give us a ringing
endorsement before he would allow him that to be a
but in a vulnerable position where he's going to talk
to you guys on the podcast about what the hell
is going on without water in South Carolina. And I
hope he comes over then answer of how we simply
just put a huge drain under Charleston to suck all
the water that's the problem out and push it out
to the rest of the state.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Well, let's not forget. Let's not forget when we have
weather that comes through all the water that comes from
North Carolina, right that when they open, when they open
their dams, ends up affecting the whole TD area.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
I got so well, at this point, we should be
thankful they're opening their dams, because the day comes when
they close it, we're going to have a fight that's
going to go back and make the damn the feud.
McCoy's look like a playtime. Thank you so much for
your time, Lieutenant Governor Pamela Abbott, Well.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Thank you guys, and know that I will give you
a glowing recommendation. And I'm sure Director Mullikan's he's an
attorney's an environmental attorney, he is a scholar. When it
comes to theology and he was a general he kind

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of started returning around our s the State Guard years
ago and now director of DNR. So he's a guy
that is really knowledgeable and I will make sure that
he gets very excited about coming on your podcast. You
guys do a great job.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Sounds awesome. Thank you so much and I hope you
have a great day you too.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Guys keep solving all the state's problems.