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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, this
is not Pyong Yong on a Saturday, so or I
have never so hoped for rain in my life. There
you go, so Kelly Nash tremendous success. So it's a
bust of rain. They gave it a one hundred percent
chance of rain and it didn't rain at all. It
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was beautiful. Jonathan and Kelly Show. Woc walls kills me.
He's just invariably at the wrong place, at the wrong time,
with the wrong statement.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, I mean not a very likable person either. I
mean anybody who if you're praying for rain for a parade,
I mean, unless the parade is inherently evil. If it's
a clan parade, I would understand. But this is the
US Army's two hundred and fiftieth celebration.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Oh so you claim it was Trump's birthday parade. Everybody
knows that.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Look, I went to that parade. I was excited to
be there. I think that what we're seeing, I think
this is more significant than the media wants to give
it credit for. I think that we're starting to change
the narrative. Jonathan, because I was surprised, perhaps you were
surprised too. On September twelfth, two thousand and one, you know,
September eleventh happens, and that literally with the next day,
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we start seeing people in the intelligentsia start telling us that, well,
you know, America had this coming, right, We're not that
good of a people.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
You finally have to answer for your sins, and that.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
To me was a huge eye opening moment. Wait a second,
there's people in this country who apparently for years, have
been telling themselves a story that America is the bad guy.
It's hard to love a country if you tell yourself
the story that you're a bad guy. And stories are
what that's how the human brain is designed is to read.
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Like Jesus didn't just spit facts. Jesus spit parables aka stories,
because he knew that's how you were designed to respond.
If the narrative in your life story is that you
grew up in stolen land and basically just used people
in order to get ahead in the world, and you
should be making amends for that, and instead you continue
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to colonize other places around the world and rip them
off of their oil and all of that, then no,
you're not going to like your country very much. What
we saw on Saturday was a revisiting of the facts
in a storied like way of the brave men and
the families that put everything on the line in seventeen
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seventy five in order to start the US Army, and
then what they did in future wars, the War of
eighteen twelve, the Civil War, World War One. I mean,
they brought them all out, one right after another, the
troops after troops, and the pride that you should feel
as an American not just because of what we accomplished
for ourselves, but the reality our US military is the
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greatest force for good the earth has ever seen. We
have liberated more people than any army in history. And
you should be very proud of your military and thrilled
with the privileges it gives you as an American.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Bottom line, according to your history book, that may be true,
but the chickens came home to roost of nine to eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And then you went into denial about that, and you
stood around with the President on the bullhorn saying that
the people were going to pay. That was a particular
that was a continuation of your imperialistic colonization and designs
in other parts of the world where you insist that
your government be the one to help supposedly free people.
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Look the people in well right now in Iran, they
don't want to be freed. Israel wants to see these
people to be freed. They're not looking to be free. Look,
according to your history book, everything you said is true, Kelly.
But I'm just reading in today's newspaper. For instance, your
parade that you're so proud of was woefully under attended
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from the two hundred and fifty thousand estimated, while meanwhile,
according to was it the state newspaper could have been
the posting career. The protest here in Columbia for No
Kings drew a considerable quote unquote crowd, A considerable crowd.
Did they want to tell us the number? They didn't
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have a number. I got to look up considerable. Is
there a number that's automatically associated with that? Because they
didn't come to mind.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Look, if you're asking me if all the No Kings
rallies around the country had more than they had at
the military parade, I might concede that I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I had a considerable number. I'll tell you I.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Can tell you that I went to the Daytona five
hundred this year, which had Max's cabacity is one hundred
and fifty thousand. I was in the midst of that,
and it was very similar in the sense that you
all had to walk in off the same street. In
order to get into the Daytona five hundred Constitution Avenue,
we all had to walk in pretty much through the
same street, and the crowd was bigger than the one
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hundred and fifty thousand for the Daytona five hundred. How
big was it, I don't know. I can tell you
that the aerial shots would never do it justice because
of the tree coverage. And I also know that a
lot of the photos that they showed at the very
beginning of the parade, not a lot of people were
going to be because most of the parade a mile.
The parade was like one point two miles. One mile
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of it's on Constitution Avenue. That's where everybody was. The
photos that you're seeing with the little risers where nobody
was sitting, that's on the beginning. That's on Fifteenth Street,
and nobody was sitting there. And certainly everybody was surprised
that they started the parade a half hour earlier. I
was shocked. I was caught off guard. I was standing
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literally right across the street from where Donald Trump was,
So where I'm standing, he's like across the street from me,
and about eleven people to the left. I was actually
standing right in front of Dana what's his name from
the UFC. That's who was standing right across from me.
But everybody in our crowd was like, wait a minute,
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they're starting, Like it's not supposed to start six thirty.
So people were starting to run down the hills trying
to get in place to see this thing. So, yes,
the photographs are very misleading.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, I can tell you that because I was in
Nashville helping Janey move into her new house, I was
mounting televisions. I watched the parade partly and as I
was learning how to operate this new Samsung television in
sixty five inch glorious four K video. It was impressive,
and the camera shots for those tank shots were incredible. Anyway,
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when you look at the other television coverage, they were
all over the country for the No Kings, for the
No Kings protests, which were all peaceful, by the way.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
All I know is by the time I got back
to the Hotel Angela, turned on Fox News and it
looked like the very peaceful No King's protests in LA
were not so peaceful.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
It turned only because, as Karen Bass pointed out late
in the day, after the peaceful protesters get a little
tired when they go home, then the second shift comes in. Now,
these second shift people apparently are the so called out
of state agitators. Oh yeah, so they come in just
to take advantage of the situation. And Karen Lawn's mouth.
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Bass stood right there and told you again, you're going
to be held accountable for your evil deeds. So watch
yourself when you get to Los Angeles, the City of
the Angels. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
One of the things that I heard them saying was
that they somebody had brought fencing and blocked off a street.
And I'm like, how what, Like, you're pretty devoted to
the cause if you went and got fencing and blocked
off one of the main streets in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I loved it when during the George Floyd protest they
brought in the delivery for the bricks. This time they're
bringing in their own barricades. Yeah, that's great. I did
like the fact that it's being broadcast world round, so
that when you saw the armament rolling down the streets
and our troops, you know the other countries are watching
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that too. Don't you know that the damn North Koreans
are sitting there going what the hell? Why don't the
Americans have to damn goose step it? How hard it
is to march like this, not bending your knees. Look
at these guys that bending their knees well.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And the breaking news that net and Yahoo shared that
you know, there's been two serious assassination plots from the
Iranians versus Trump. And then there was a I don't
think that Netta who confirmed this, but there was other
reporting done that Trump had been told by Netta who
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about these and he wanted the permission basically to take
out the Ayatola. He's like, we've got him in our sights.
And Trump said let him know, no, you're not taking
out the Ayatola right now because they have not killed
an American. If they kill any Americans, we take out
all the leadership. But right now, let them live. That
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word had to get be sitting there with the Ayatola
going oh crap, Donald Trump just pardoned me. I mean
I would I would tread very lightly if I was
and I'm pretty sure he is going to try to
tread lightly with the Americans.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And then the other thought is maybe Sally and a
lot of people got Sally got very frustrated. Why do
we let him live? Like, maybe we're getting close to
getting the deal done that Trump wants done with the
Uranius for the nuclear and then if you go ahead
and blow these guys out of the world, are we're
going to start all over again with another committee. Now
that committee will be coming with a little less emboldment
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as they got to the table. But still we're about
to get the deal done. Let's get the deal done.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And and you're right because if you if you let
that guy know I had you and I let you
off the hook, that guy knows that you can get me.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Again anytime I want it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And he's more likely to not want to mess with
Americans because he's like, crap, that's that's a bridge too far.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
And if you get that deal done, he's going to
hold it that deal because he knows when that deal
goes away, so will he?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes, And you know, not what they say they all
want to live.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They do.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I know they say that they want to go be
with Olive, but they don't want to be with Alive.
They want to be right here in their palace.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, I know we're getting ready for a big day
tomorrow here in Charleston, South Carolina, because James Clyburn's holding court.
We're all going to come kiss the ring Uppearently we're
going to start with the Look. June seventeenth a great
day in South Carolina history. We all know that that's
the day when the persons whose name shall not be
spoken decided that he would go into a church and
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kill nine people. Got it, nobody's happy about that. I mean,
this guy is such a low light piece of crap.
Even Joe Biden didn't pardon him when he pardoned everybody
else on the planet. This guy and two other dudes
did not make the cut from Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, look, I mean, I don't think anybody's ever argued
the point that the Charleston shooter was a good guy
or worthy of anything. But the big argument in politics
has always been about the what they call the Charleston loophole.
And we've litigated this and relitigated this is the tenth
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anniversary tomorrow. So we've been talking about the Charleston loophole
for ten years and how there really isn't a loophole.
What there is is is the federal government bureaucracy is
so big that it can't identify its own problems.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
The federal government is so inefficient. The people who tell
you that they can do an instant background check on
you and decide whether you should be allowed to have
your Second Amendment right purchase of a gun. Or the
people who cannot identify the difference between the Columbia City
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Police Department and the West Columbia City Police Department.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Many of them would be the people who can't tell
the difference treat a man and a woman.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
If you can't if you can't recognize law enforcement agencies
that answer to your own friggin federal agency, at least
by name, if not by exact proximity. If you can't
even identify a law enforcement agency, what the hell leads
me to believe that you know exactly what the hell
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is in my background report? Why you should believe It's
worst argument?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
And I would have I mean, just so, if you're
not familiar with the Charleston quote unquote loophole. Basically, the
way the argument goes is the federal government was rushed
because they only had three days to decide if Dylan
Roof was eligible to buy a weapon, and when they
ran the background checks, they ran them through the wrong
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agencies and the wrong departments, police departments and whatnot, and
so had they had more time, they would have gotten
it right. But the reality of it is they could
have had one thousand years. They thought they had the
right department to begin with. It didn't matter if they
had three days or three hours or three months or whatever.
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They got it wrong. So they're what the argument is
from the Democrats is if we extend it to thirty days,
then now we're going to be able to really do
the background check properly. And conservatives are pointing out that
if I give you from three to thirty days, and
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then you're going to have another one of these problems.
And when you have that problem, you're going to say,
now we need ninety days. Then you're going to say
I need one hundred and eighty, and eventually it's going
to be we can't trust the system to find out
those who can and cannot purchase weapons, and it is
a constitutionally guaranteed right that you have the right to
buy or firearm. It's not like getting a driver's license.
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People say, you know, you have to have a license
to drive a car. Well, it's not guaranteed in the
constitution that I have the right to drive a car.
I have the right to own a gun to defend myself,
specifically against government agencies. That's the reason it's there is
if you, as a federal officer, tried to come into
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my home, I have if you're not supposed to be there,
I have the right to shoot you.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Now. The article goes on to sant I love this
at the time. Then Governor Nikki Haley said that knowledge,
the knowledge. That knowledge made her literally said that now
it's literally sick to my stomach. Here's the part she
gets pushed back for. But her response was criticized the
FBI for still relying on paperwork and saying technology, not
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more time, is the solution. So if the pushback is
is that, as Kelly pointed, more time's not going to help.
Maybe if it's the technology, or maybe it's the input
output of even understanding the difference between Columbia and West
Columbia and the law enforcements agencies that are in fact
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under your jurisdiction. So nonetheless, I love this part too.
If you click on, by the way, any link in
this article for the Posting Courier when they're talking about Mike, Mark,
Kelly and Abby Gifford coming to town for the big event,
if you click on that with her efforts, it takes
you back to a web page on her website from
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twenty eleven. So this is exactly as Kelly said, the
same argument over and over and over again. Now there's
another click. I love this part. Twenty two states have
either extended the wait time for background checks beyond three
days or eliminated the ability for a sale to proceed
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before a check is complete, no matter how long it takes.
In the Southeast, this is where they try to gut
punch you. Those three states include Florida, Tennessee, and Virginia.
If you click on that link and that link, that
statement is a lie because if you click on that link,
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it shows that some of these states have in fact
extended it from three days to five. Okay, well, I
get it, if you want to go for three to five,
I still disagree with it. But it's not that you're
going to give the government as long as it takes,
no matter how long it takes. There's one state now
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forgotten which one of those maybe it's organ that allows
it no matter how long it takes. They literally can
sit until you die and give you an answer on
whether you can buy a shotgun to go hunt with.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Or to protect yourself. I mean that is, by the way,
in case you're wondering. Sheriff Leon Lott highly recommends all
homeowners own a shotgun specifically because if you hear somebody
outside in your bedroom door, you don't have to aim.
First off, you rack a shotgun that scares off most intruders,
the smart ones, but if they happen to still be
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on the other side of that door when you discharge
said shotgun, you're not aiming at anything other than the door,
because everything on the other side of said door is
about to be killed, whether they're crouching, jumping, whatever they're doing,
they're dying or at least being incapacitated. And so again,
you shouldn't need special permission to go buy a weapon.
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The problem is, again, if you're somebody who's a gangster,
you're somebody who is going to do harm to other
people intentionally, then you're not looking to legally buy a gun.
And that's the stats on that are overwhelming that the
vast majority of crimes are committed with illegal guns now,
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and we certainly should have another discussion at another time
about legal gun owners not doing enough to protect their
guns from being stolen, because there are thousands of them
stolen every year. We can also talk about ghost guns.
That's part of the federal charges on Ditty is he
had ghost guns. So that's another problem. But people having
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the right to buy a gun, which is again constitutionally
guaranteed in the United States, you shouldn't need anything special
about that. Like Trump wants to give these bonds now
or whatever to children when they're born. I feel like
every child should be issued a nine millimeter, Like when
the day you're born, we have a nine millimeter issued
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to you by the federal government, just waiting for you
till your big enough to carry it. I mean that, Yes,
we're gun crazy in America and the only way to
make sure that you're safe is to carry a dang gun.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well, the other tragic story over the weekend, when you
saw it You're just like, this is getting weigh the
hell out of control. And we know it's because the
temperamentum far sides right and left have gotten weigh the
hell out of control to the extent now where you've
got two persons who serve at a state level, a
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senator and a house member who have been killed.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Are they both dead?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I know one of them had died, well, the husband
and wife.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Two people have been killed. That was the husband and wife.
That was the house member. The senator, to my knowledge,
has not died, and he was in serious condition alone
with his wife. But you know when you when you
hear that, and then immediately everybody wants to either start
praying for rain for Trump's parade or pray Dear Lord
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Jesus is and out of control maga red hat wear
and do with a gun? Who killed both of our
Democrat lawmakers as they fight for the rights for illegal immigrants.
And now you find out I haven't seen this report
at anywhere other than our friends at iHeartMedia. What's that
that he was a Walls appointe.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Oh, I've seen that. And and his now former roommate,
the Big Fat Guy, says that he knows that that
guy voted for Trump, and he knows that the guy's
main issue was abortion, that's what he's claiming. But he
said he's not very political in nature. He had a
lot of financial problems due to I think a security
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business that he tried to launch and it was failing
miserably and he was under a lot of stress. And look,
it doesn't I don't like the they were a blue
hat or they were a red hat argument, because it
doesn't matter what hat they were wearing, whoever they are.
When they start plotting to kill politicians, they're insane. They're
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no longer in control of their faculties, and this guy
was not in control of his faculties. It seems more
likely that he was a Democrat in his politicking because
of the fact that he killed the only two Democrats
who actually went along with the Republicans in order to
repeal healthcare benefits for all illegals in the state. And
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if you saw that woman's speech like the day after it,
or maybe right after the vote, and she was like bawling,
She's making the speech like I know people are going
to be hurt by this, and blah blah blah. There's
just absolutely no way to make the budget work if
we provided healthcare for everybody, and you know that seems
to be the issue, right, Why, out of all the
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people you could have targeted, you targeted the only two
Democrats who voted with the Republicans last week or was
it of two weeks ago?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now that's the only thread, and at this point it is.
But you were reminded the other day. I was reminded,
Kelly that the young man who in the assassination attempt
of DJT was a Republican.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Is this the kid in Pennsylvania? You know more about
him than I do. I know nothing about this.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Guy, That's what they were saying. I'm like, okay, I
don't know. Okay, even if your argument were true, like
Kelly said, what does it have to do once you
get a once you go crazy? There is no differentation
between red or blue. Donkeys are elephants.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
The far left lunatics and the far right lunatics actually meet,
like you know, if you're like making a circle, the
far and the far right actually meets up with the
far left.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Bernie Sanders, Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, the Nazis are considered by a lot to be
the far right. Yeah, but then you've got the fascists,
which are the far left. I mean, they're both insane,
and you end.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Up with a Bernie Sanders supporter who shot Steve Scalise. Yeah, yeah,
if you want to, if you want to draw the
circle for political and that's to what you're going to
make your argument on, which is incredibly stupid to make
an argument on some guy who's plainly a raving lunatic mind.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yes, yes, but if.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You want to stand on that credibility, you go right ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah. And to circle back to what we were talking
about earlier, it appears that Clyburn has got so much
juice inside the Democrat Party now they believe that Mark
Kelly is coming all the way to Columbia in the
hopes of getting the endorsement of James Cliburn. Are we
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going to wrap up the Democrat nomination? You know, three
years before the presidency.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He didn't get the knob when Biden stepped down, he
didn't even get the VP nod, no, when Kamala stood up.
But he's out there working hard to make sure and
I guess his wife is coming with it. Gabby's coming
with him.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Well, she's I mean, obviously Gabby Giffords rose to fame
for most Americans because she was the victim of political violence.
And again on that one, if I remember right, and
we're going back many years now, so I might be
misremembering this, but I think that that was a Democrat
who was pissed off that she didn't vote the right
way again and came to one of her like. It
wasn't even like a rally. I think it was outside.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Wasn't it am all doing an appearance.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
She was doing an appearance in public, and I thought
it was like in a parking lot and she got
shot in the head.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Book they just walked straight.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Up to her, Yeah, and shot her in the head.
Amazing that she survived that, and thank god she did.
And I'm hoping that despite the I'm sure there's not
only emotional pain that will last the rest of her life,
but physical pain as well. I'm hoping that she can
have a full life. She seems to be managing her
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and Mark Kelly, and so God bless them both on that.
But to come here and try to preach to us
that the Constitution is unconstitutional because it guarantees every American
the right to own a weapon. It's not flying the math,
don't math. You can't say that the Constitution is unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And the people who make the argument Democrats that the
Charleston loophole has got to be closed, or the ones
who are in fact making an argument without admitting that
the federal government is inadequate in being able to do
its own job description pretty much with agency to agency,
but this one plainly withinside the DOJ through your law
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through their background check, using supposedly your local law enforcement agency.
It's just so frustrating to hear him talk about it
because it's not at all. It's a totally disingenuous argument.
That's not at all what the problem is, sir.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But if you're a Democrat, the part of the mental
illness of a Democrats is that they believe that the
reason the government doesn't work is it's not big enough
if you could just grow it to the size that
we need it to be, and you are worried about
restraining the size of government, when in reality it needs
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to be bigger in order to accomplish all we wanted
to do. The reality of it, though, is that the
bigger we grow the government, the more inefficient it becomes.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And don't we have plenty of examples to point to
in that, and that's well documented, Sir
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, this
is not Pyong Yong on a Saturday, so or I
have never so hoped for rain in my life. There
you go, so Kelly Nash tremendous success. So it's a
bust of rain. They gave it a one hundred percent
chance of rain and it didn't rain at all. It
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was beautiful. Jonathan and Kelly Show. Woc walls kills me.
He's just invariably at the wrong place, at the wrong time,
with the wrong statement.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, I mean not a very likable person either. I
mean anybody who if you're praying for rain for a parade,
I mean, unless the parade is inherently evil. If it's
a clan parade, I would understand. But this is the
US Army's two hundred and fiftieth celebration.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Oh so you claim it was Trump's birthday parade. Everybody
knows that.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Look, I went to that parade. I was excited to
be there. I think that what we're seeing, I think
this is more significant than the media wants to give
it credit for. I think that we're starting to change
the narrative. Jonathan, because I was surprised, perhaps you were
surprised too. On September twelfth, two thousand and one, you know,
September eleventh happens, and that literally with the next day,
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we start seeing people in the intelligentsia start telling us that, well,
you know, America had this coming, right, We're not that
good of a people.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
You finally have to answer for your sins, and that.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
To me was a huge eye opening moment. Wait a second,
there's people in this country who apparently for years, have
been telling themselves a story that America is the bad guy.
It's hard to love a country if you tell yourself
the story that you're a bad guy. And stories are
what that's how the human brain is designed is to read.
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Like Jesus didn't just spit facts. Jesus spit parables aka stories,
because he knew that's how you were designed to respond.
If the narrative in your life story is that you
grew up in stolen land and basically just used people
in order to get ahead in the world, and you
should be making amends for that, and instead you continue
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to colonize other places around the world and rip them
off of their oil and all of that, then no,
you're not going to like your country very much. What
we saw on Saturday was a revisiting of the facts
in a storied like way of the brave men and
the families that put everything on the line in seventeen
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seventy five in order to start the US Army, and
then what they did in future wars, the War of
eighteen twelve, the Civil War, World War One. I mean,
they brought them all out, one right after another, the
troops after troops, and the pride that you should feel
as an American not just because of what we accomplished
for ourselves, but the reality our US military is the
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greatest force for good the earth has ever seen. We
have liberated more people than any army in history. And
you should be very proud of your military and thrilled
with the privileges it gives you as an American.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Bottom line, according to your history book, that may be true,
but the chickens came home to roost of nine to eleven.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
And then you went into denial about that, and you
stood around with the President on the bullhorn saying that
the people were going to pay. That was a particular
that was a continuation of your imperialistic colonization and designs
in other parts of the world where you insist that
your government be the one to help supposedly free people.
(03:50):
Look the people in well right now in Iran, they
don't want to be freed. Israel wants to see these
people to be freed. They're not looking to be free. Look,
according to your history book, everything you said is true, Kelly.
But I'm just reading in today's newspaper. For instance, your
parade that you're so proud of was woefully under attended
(04:14):
from the two hundred and fifty thousand estimated, while meanwhile,
according to was it the state newspaper could have been
the posting career. The protest here in Columbia for No
Kings drew a considerable quote unquote crowd, A considerable crowd.
Did they want to tell us the number? They didn't
(04:35):
have a number. I got to look up considerable. Is
there a number that's automatically associated with that? Because they
didn't come to mind.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Look, if you're asking me if all the No Kings
rallies around the country had more than they had at
the military parade, I might concede that I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I had a considerable number. I'll tell you I.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Can tell you that I went to the Daytona five
hundred this year, which had Max's cabacity is one hundred
and fifty thousand. I was in the midst of that,
and it was very similar in the sense that you
all had to walk in off the same street. In
order to get into the Daytona five hundred Constitution Avenue,
we all had to walk in pretty much through the
same street, and the crowd was bigger than the one
(05:22):
hundred and fifty thousand for the Daytona five hundred. How
big was it, I don't know. I can tell you
that the aerial shots would never do it justice because
of the tree coverage. And I also know that a
lot of the photos that they showed at the very
beginning of the parade, not a lot of people were
going to be because most of the parade a mile.
The parade was like one point two miles. One mile
(05:44):
of it's on Constitution Avenue. That's where everybody was. The
photos that you're seeing with the little risers where nobody
was sitting, that's on the beginning. That's on Fifteenth Street,
and nobody was sitting there. And certainly everybody was surprised
that they started the parade a half hour earlier. I
was shocked. I was caught off guard. I was standing
(06:04):
literally right across the street from where Donald Trump was,
So where I'm standing, he's like across the street from me,
and about eleven people to the left. I was actually
standing right in front of Dana what's his name from
the UFC. That's who was standing right across from me.
But everybody in our crowd was like, wait a minute,
(06:25):
they're starting, Like it's not supposed to start six thirty.
So people were starting to run down the hills trying
to get in place to see this thing. So, yes,
the photographs are very misleading.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, I can tell you that because I was in
Nashville helping Janey move into her new house, I was
mounting televisions. I watched the parade partly and as I
was learning how to operate this new Samsung television in
sixty five inch glorious four K video. It was impressive,
and the camera shots for those tank shots were incredible. Anyway,
(07:00):
when you look at the other television coverage, they were
all over the country for the No Kings, for the
No Kings protests, which were all peaceful, by the way.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
All I know is by the time I got back
to the Hotel Angela, turned on Fox News and it
looked like the very peaceful No King's protests in LA
were not so peaceful.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
It turned only because, as Karen Bass pointed out late
in the day, after the peaceful protesters get a little
tired when they go home, then the second shift comes in. Now,
these second shift people apparently are the so called out
of state agitators. Oh yeah, so they come in just
to take advantage of the situation. And Karen Lawn's mouth.
(07:42):
Bass stood right there and told you again, you're going
to be held accountable for your evil deeds. So watch
yourself when you get to Los Angeles, the City of
the Angels. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
One of the things that I heard them saying was
that they somebody had brought fencing and blocked off a street.
And I'm like, how what, Like, you're pretty devoted to
the cause if you went and got fencing and blocked
off one of the main streets in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I loved it when during the George Floyd protest they
brought in the delivery for the bricks. This time they're
bringing in their own barricades. Yeah, that's great. I did
like the fact that it's being broadcast world round, so
that when you saw the armament rolling down the streets
and our troops, you know the other countries are watching
(08:32):
that too. Don't you know that the damn North Koreans
are sitting there going what the hell? Why don't the
Americans have to damn goose step it? How hard it
is to march like this, not bending your knees. Look
at these guys that bending their knees well.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And the breaking news that net and Yahoo shared that
you know, there's been two serious assassination plots from the
Iranians versus Trump. And then there was a I don't
think that Netta who confirmed this, but there was other
reporting done that Trump had been told by Netta who
(09:10):
about these and he wanted the permission basically to take
out the Ayatola. He's like, we've got him in our sights.
And Trump said let him know, no, you're not taking
out the Ayatola right now because they have not killed
an American. If they kill any Americans, we take out
all the leadership. But right now, let them live. That
(09:33):
word had to get be sitting there with the Ayatola
going oh crap, Donald Trump just pardoned me. I mean
I would I would tread very lightly if I was
and I'm pretty sure he is going to try to
tread lightly with the Americans.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
And then the other thought is maybe Sally and a
lot of people got Sally got very frustrated. Why do
we let him live? Like, maybe we're getting close to
getting the deal done that Trump wants done with the
Uranius for the nuclear and then if you go ahead
and blow these guys out of the world, are we're
going to start all over again with another committee. Now
that committee will be coming with a little less emboldment
(10:08):
as they got to the table. But still we're about
to get the deal done. Let's get the deal done.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And and you're right because if you if you let
that guy know I had you and I let you
off the hook, that guy knows that you can get me.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Again anytime I want it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And he's more likely to not want to mess with
Americans because he's like, crap, that's that's a bridge too far.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
And if you get that deal done, he's going to
hold it that deal because he knows when that deal
goes away, so will he?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes, And you know, not what they say they all
want to live.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They do.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I know they say that they want to go be
with Olive, but they don't want to be with Alive.
They want to be right here in their palace.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, I know we're getting ready for a big day
tomorrow here in Charleston, South Carolina, because James Clyburn's holding court.
We're all going to come kiss the ring Uppearently we're
going to start with the Look. June seventeenth a great
day in South Carolina history. We all know that that's
the day when the persons whose name shall not be
spoken decided that he would go into a church and
(11:10):
kill nine people. Got it, nobody's happy about that. I mean,
this guy is such a low light piece of crap.
Even Joe Biden didn't pardon him when he pardoned everybody
else on the planet. This guy and two other dudes
did not make the cut from Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, look, I mean, I don't think anybody's ever argued
the point that the Charleston shooter was a good guy
or worthy of anything. But the big argument in politics
has always been about the what they call the Charleston loophole.
And we've litigated this and relitigated this is the tenth
(11:51):
anniversary tomorrow. So we've been talking about the Charleston loophole
for ten years and how there really isn't a loophole.
What there is is is the federal government bureaucracy is
so big that it can't identify its own problems.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
The federal government is so inefficient. The people who tell
you that they can do an instant background check on
you and decide whether you should be allowed to have
your Second Amendment right purchase of a gun. Or the
people who cannot identify the difference between the Columbia City
(12:33):
Police Department and the West Columbia City Police Department.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Many of them would be the people who can't tell
the difference treat a man and a woman.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
If you can't if you can't recognize law enforcement agencies
that answer to your own friggin federal agency, at least
by name, if not by exact proximity. If you can't
even identify a law enforcement agency, what the hell leads
me to believe that you know exactly what the hell
(13:00):
is in my background report? Why you should believe It's
worst argument?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
And I would have I mean, just so, if you're
not familiar with the Charleston quote unquote loophole. Basically, the
way the argument goes is the federal government was rushed
because they only had three days to decide if Dylan
Roof was eligible to buy a weapon, and when they
ran the background checks, they ran them through the wrong
(13:26):
agencies and the wrong departments, police departments and whatnot, and
so had they had more time, they would have gotten
it right. But the reality of it is they could
have had one thousand years. They thought they had the
right department to begin with. It didn't matter if they
had three days or three hours or three months or whatever.
(13:48):
They got it wrong. So they're what the argument is
from the Democrats is if we extend it to thirty days,
then now we're going to be able to really do
the background check properly. And conservatives are pointing out that
if I give you from three to thirty days, and
(14:09):
then you're going to have another one of these problems.
And when you have that problem, you're going to say,
now we need ninety days. Then you're going to say
I need one hundred and eighty, and eventually it's going
to be we can't trust the system to find out
those who can and cannot purchase weapons, and it is
a constitutionally guaranteed right that you have the right to
buy or firearm. It's not like getting a driver's license.
(14:32):
People say, you know, you have to have a license
to drive a car. Well, it's not guaranteed in the
constitution that I have the right to drive a car.
I have the right to own a gun to defend myself,
specifically against government agencies. That's the reason it's there is
if you, as a federal officer, tried to come into
(14:53):
my home, I have if you're not supposed to be there,
I have the right to shoot you.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Now. The article goes on to sant I love this
at the time. Then Governor Nikki Haley said that knowledge,
the knowledge. That knowledge made her literally said that now
it's literally sick to my stomach. Here's the part she
gets pushed back for. But her response was criticized the
FBI for still relying on paperwork and saying technology, not
(15:25):
more time, is the solution. So if the pushback is
is that, as Kelly pointed, more time's not going to help.
Maybe if it's the technology, or maybe it's the input
output of even understanding the difference between Columbia and West
Columbia and the law enforcements agencies that are in fact
(15:47):
under your jurisdiction. So nonetheless, I love this part too.
If you click on, by the way, any link in
this article for the Posting Courier when they're talking about Mike, Mark,
Kelly and Abby Gifford coming to town for the big event,
if you click on that with her efforts, it takes
you back to a web page on her website from
(16:11):
twenty eleven. So this is exactly as Kelly said, the
same argument over and over and over again. Now there's
another click. I love this part. Twenty two states have
either extended the wait time for background checks beyond three
days or eliminated the ability for a sale to proceed
(16:32):
before a check is complete, no matter how long it takes.
In the Southeast, this is where they try to gut
punch you. Those three states include Florida, Tennessee, and Virginia.
If you click on that link and that link, that
statement is a lie because if you click on that link,
(16:53):
it shows that some of these states have in fact
extended it from three days to five. Okay, well, I
get it, if you want to go for three to five,
I still disagree with it. But it's not that you're
going to give the government as long as it takes,
no matter how long it takes. There's one state now
(17:13):
forgotten which one of those maybe it's organ that allows
it no matter how long it takes. They literally can
sit until you die and give you an answer on
whether you can buy a shotgun to go hunt with.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Or to protect yourself. I mean that is, by the way,
in case you're wondering. Sheriff Leon Lott highly recommends all
homeowners own a shotgun specifically because if you hear somebody
outside in your bedroom door, you don't have to aim.
First off, you rack a shotgun that scares off most intruders,
the smart ones, but if they happen to still be
(17:51):
on the other side of that door when you discharge
said shotgun, you're not aiming at anything other than the door,
because everything on the other side of said door is
about to be killed, whether they're crouching, jumping, whatever they're doing,
they're dying or at least being incapacitated. And so again,
you shouldn't need special permission to go buy a weapon.
(18:17):
The problem is, again, if you're somebody who's a gangster,
you're somebody who is going to do harm to other
people intentionally, then you're not looking to legally buy a gun.
And that's the stats on that are overwhelming that the
vast majority of crimes are committed with illegal guns now,
(18:38):
and we certainly should have another discussion at another time
about legal gun owners not doing enough to protect their
guns from being stolen, because there are thousands of them
stolen every year. We can also talk about ghost guns.
That's part of the federal charges on Ditty is he
had ghost guns. So that's another problem. But people having
(19:01):
the right to buy a gun, which is again constitutionally
guaranteed in the United States, you shouldn't need anything special
about that. Like Trump wants to give these bonds now
or whatever to children when they're born. I feel like
every child should be issued a nine millimeter, Like when
the day you're born, we have a nine millimeter issued
(19:23):
to you by the federal government, just waiting for you
till your big enough to carry it. I mean that, Yes,
we're gun crazy in America and the only way to
make sure that you're safe is to carry a dang gun.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well, the other tragic story over the weekend, when you
saw it You're just like, this is getting weigh the
hell out of control. And we know it's because the
temperamentum far sides right and left have gotten weigh the
hell out of control to the extent now where you've
got two persons who serve at a state level, a
(19:57):
senator and a house member who have been killed.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Are they both dead?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I know one of them had died, well, the husband
and wife.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Two people have been killed. That was the husband and wife.
That was the house member. The senator, to my knowledge,
has not died, and he was in serious condition alone
with his wife. But you know when you when you
hear that, and then immediately everybody wants to either start
praying for rain for Trump's parade or pray Dear Lord
(20:28):
Jesus is and out of control maga red hat wear
and do with a gun? Who killed both of our
Democrat lawmakers as they fight for the rights for illegal immigrants.
And now you find out I haven't seen this report
at anywhere other than our friends at iHeartMedia. What's that
that he was a Walls appointe.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Oh, I've seen that. And and his now former roommate,
the Big Fat Guy, says that he knows that that
guy voted for Trump, and he knows that the guy's
main issue was abortion, that's what he's claiming. But he
said he's not very political in nature. He had a
lot of financial problems due to I think a security
(21:09):
business that he tried to launch and it was failing
miserably and he was under a lot of stress. And look,
it doesn't I don't like the they were a blue
hat or they were a red hat argument, because it
doesn't matter what hat they were wearing, whoever they are.
When they start plotting to kill politicians, they're insane. They're
(21:32):
no longer in control of their faculties, and this guy
was not in control of his faculties. It seems more
likely that he was a Democrat in his politicking because
of the fact that he killed the only two Democrats
who actually went along with the Republicans in order to
repeal healthcare benefits for all illegals in the state. And
(21:55):
if you saw that woman's speech like the day after it,
or maybe right after the vote, and she was like bawling,
She's making the speech like I know people are going
to be hurt by this, and blah blah blah. There's
just absolutely no way to make the budget work if
we provided healthcare for everybody, and you know that seems
to be the issue, right, Why, out of all the
(22:16):
people you could have targeted, you targeted the only two
Democrats who voted with the Republicans last week or was
it of two weeks ago?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now that's the only thread, and at this point it is.
But you were reminded the other day. I was reminded,
Kelly that the young man who in the assassination attempt
of DJT was a Republican.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Is this the kid in Pennsylvania? You know more about
him than I do. I know nothing about this.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Guy, That's what they were saying. I'm like, okay, I
don't know. Okay, even if your argument were true, like
Kelly said, what does it have to do once you
get a once you go crazy? There is no differentation
between red or blue. Donkeys are elephants.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
The far left lunatics and the far right lunatics actually meet,
like you know, if you're like making a circle, the
far and the far right actually meets up with the
far left.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Bernie Sanders, Kingdom.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, the Nazis are considered by a lot to be
the far right. Yeah, but then you've got the fascists,
which are the far left. I mean, they're both insane,
and you end.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Up with a Bernie Sanders supporter who shot Steve Scalise. Yeah, yeah,
if you want to, if you want to draw the
circle for political and that's to what you're going to
make your argument on, which is incredibly stupid to make
an argument on some guy who's plainly a raving lunatic mind.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yes, yes, but if.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You want to stand on that credibility, you go right ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah. And to circle back to what we were talking
about earlier, it appears that Clyburn has got so much
juice inside the Democrat Party now they believe that Mark
Kelly is coming all the way to Columbia in the
hopes of getting the endorsement of James Cliburn. Are we
(24:10):
going to wrap up the Democrat nomination? You know, three
years before the presidency.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He didn't get the knob when Biden stepped down, he
didn't even get the VP nod, no, when Kamala stood up.
But he's out there working hard to make sure and
I guess his wife is coming with it. Gabby's coming
with him.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Well, she's I mean, obviously Gabby Giffords rose to fame
for most Americans because she was the victim of political violence.
And again on that one, if I remember right, and
we're going back many years now, so I might be
misremembering this, but I think that that was a Democrat
who was pissed off that she didn't vote the right
way again and came to one of her like. It
wasn't even like a rally. I think it was outside.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Wasn't it am all doing an appearance.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
She was doing an appearance in public, and I thought
it was like in a parking lot and she got
shot in the head.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Book they just walked straight.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Up to her, Yeah, and shot her in the head.
Amazing that she survived that, and thank god she did.
And I'm hoping that despite the I'm sure there's not
only emotional pain that will last the rest of her life,
but physical pain as well. I'm hoping that she can
have a full life. She seems to be managing her
(25:19):
and Mark Kelly, and so God bless them both on that.
But to come here and try to preach to us
that the Constitution is unconstitutional because it guarantees every American
the right to own a weapon. It's not flying the math,
don't math. You can't say that the Constitution is unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And the people who make the argument Democrats that the
Charleston loophole has got to be closed, or the ones
who are in fact making an argument without admitting that
the federal government is inadequate in being able to do
its own job description pretty much with agency to agency,
but this one plainly withinside the DOJ through your law
(25:58):
through their background check, using supposedly your local law enforcement agency.
It's just so frustrating to hear him talk about it
because it's not at all. It's a totally disingenuous argument.
That's not at all what the problem is, sir.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
But if you're a Democrat, the part of the mental
illness of a Democrats is that they believe that the
reason the government doesn't work is it's not big enough
if you could just grow it to the size that
we need it to be, and you are worried about
restraining the size of government, when in reality it needs
(26:37):
to be bigger in order to accomplish all we wanted
to do. The reality of it, though, is that the
bigger we grow the government, the more inefficient it becomes.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And don't we have plenty of examples to point to
in that, and that's well documented, Sir
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