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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, when you become an immigrant, to think about, Okay,
I go to America because I want to use America
for the great opportunities that America.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Has, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Then you have to think about, Okay, if I get
all of those things from America, then I have to
give something back. You have a responsibility as an immigrant
to give back to America.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show woc.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Did no one at the view, no one who hosts
on the panel, or even a producer, even do any
kind of vetting or background check or history or understand
what Arnold Schwarzenegger stands for when he talks about America.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Well, that was two days ago, and they made that
horrific mistake. Yesterday, Whoopy Goldberg got into an argument with
Alyssa Farah and her argument is it's at least as bad,
if not worse for gays and blacks in the year
twenty twenty five in the United States than it is
(01:03):
in Iran. It's worse for blacks. And she said they're
not even done hanging us yet. And she said they
like to drag homosexuals behind pickup trucks in this country. Now,
who's doing that? By the way, is that the federal
government or is that just a band of murderous thugs?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Because I am America, And the conversation will continue, especially
today on June tenth. It started earlier this morning on
MSNBC in the way that how do you face the
continued slavery of the African American community under the Trump administration,
and how do you celebrate June Nineteenth in the face
of the man who, in fact is a white supremacist.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
It's interesting how many blacks he's appointed to his cabinet. Look,
I'm not saying Donald Trump is the most unbiased person
in the world, but he certainly does not have any
hate in his hearts for Jews. I remember last term
they were saying he was antisemitic, and I'm like, you're
taking a look at his daughter who just converted. I mean,
(02:08):
he was anti Semitic, and he hates blacks and minorities.
And yet you know, we've all heard the stories he
was winning INAACP awards a few years ago. He obviously
Donald The problem for liberals is that if you don't
show preferential treatment to a certain group, that means you
hate said group. So Democrats have spent an entire lifetime
(02:32):
of building up groups and let them know that you
have been victimized because you're a homosexual, because you're transgendered,
because you're a Latino, because you're an Indian, because whatever
you are, you are, if you're not a white male,
straight white male, then you've been victimized by this country
and in America. The way the rest of us see
(02:53):
it is no, we're not. There's certain groups of people
who may victimize us, but the law says we're all free.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And well, they're selling it hard on that hard hitting
news show, the view who insist on making news more
than actually recognizing the reality of it and not far
behind them MSNBC, Hey, we got a couple of South
Carolina things to deal with us. Speaking to South Carolina,
we had an opportunity to go to the Jonathan and
Kelly Double Secret Probationary hotline for our Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Abatt.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Good morning, my friends. How have you guys been. It
always seems like a lifetime since we talked. We have
to get together a couple times a month. I feel
it too much.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Happened well, You've covered so much ground since we talked
to you last You've got to be the busiest lieutenant
governor of the country. You've been all over the place
talking to more businesses and talking to community leaders.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, yes, and I mean that's been the big thing.
We can't help people unless we're out there with the people,
listening and talking. I've always felt like government works best
when it's out and about and listening to what businesses
have to say and what our citizens have to say.
And we've got to be solving their problem.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
What kind of solutions did you get from Kid Rock
down at the country music.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
So it was interesting. We talked a lot about our president.
I congratulated him on his new Detroit Cowboy bar that
opened up in Nashville. And it was interesting because as
his show started on Sunday night and if if you
have listeners that were out there at the Carolina Country
(04:21):
Music Festival. Again another great showing of celebrities here in
South Carolina. But he ended with a message from the President.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And so and certainly I think a man that can
bring together DJT and Bill Maher we almost need to
send into the Middle East because he can bring different
factions to the table plainly from opposite ends to the coin.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
He was so funny because I said to him, I said,
that was quite quite a feat bringing Bill Maher to
the White House. And he said, oh, man, let me
tell you I had it was a little nervous. He goes,
that's why I bought Dana White with me. But it
all turned out well and it was a good thing.
And I did tell them that. I said, you know,
(05:05):
I think it's easier to criticize people that you don't know.
You know what I mean. I think once you see
people face to face and you shake their hand and
you strip away all those missed conceived notions about them,
it makes them real to you, and it's harder to
(05:27):
be I mean, you can still criticize, I mean, but
it's hard to just go out and be just plain
old insulting.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I want to ask you specifically about something that popped
up in the paper today, but this is just a
continuation of a story that we've been talking about now
for more than a year and what our energy needs
will be in the state of South Carolina in the
next decade. Specifically, we talked about the portable nuclear We've
talked we've seen in the newspaper, pushback locally from different
(05:54):
counties and different municipalities about solar farms and the like.
But there's a new article today in the paper and
a bill that was signed by government master, the South
Carolina Energy Security Act, And I know that there's got
to be a lot of benefit to the downside that
I think a lot of South Carolinians will read into this,
(06:15):
and it seems like we're doing the end around the
PSC and we'll make it easier for energy companies to
raise rates.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So you know you're right and listen, I pay electric
villages like everybody else. Do I wish electricity was free?
Absolutely do I think it can be free? Absolutely? Not right, So,
you know, there was a lot of talk every time
we have an increase, the increases seemed to be so much,
which like gets everybody's attention because they have to wait
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so long. Right, you can't have incremental increases, which a
lot of people have said anytime they get an increase,
I wish we could have done it, you know, I
wish we could have done this in two steps instead
of getting hit with it all at once. So that
was addressing some concerns from the other side when you
talk about rates. Now the benefits. The benefits is that
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it opens up the door for the resurrection of VC summer,
which you know, I'm just wrapping up a Tenant governor's
a Republican Lieutenant Governor's conference on my way back to
South Carolina today and we as we said before we
started taping, my colleagues are going, Man, you guys aren't
(07:27):
a great position. The fact that we passed a bill
that basically was cutting red tape. You know, everybody talks about,
you know, the bureaucracy of getting projects through and when
you talk to businesses, and as you said, I'm not
talking to businesses all the time, my friends, and that
is the biggest thing to them when they can't get
permitting through quick. This all adds to the cost of
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any project. And I don't if you're providing a service
and your project costs go up, guess what the price
of those things go up. And so President Trump has
said that on the federal level, you know, we need
to cut through the red tape and the bureaucracy of
permitting so that businesses can do their business. And so
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that's part of this bill. Basically, if an energy company
goes to any department that any permitting from and it
doesn't get approved or denied within six months, it's an
automatic approval. So that's going to work on efficiency, which
we've all been talking about, right, and we have to
keep things moving along. I think it's another huge positive
(08:35):
is that it's going to convert one of our pull
fire plants into natural gas, and that's going to really
help the grand stand. The PD Dominion and Santie Cooper
are going to be, you know, partnering on that. So
I think we're in a really good We're in a
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really good spot for becoming energy independent, and let's not
keep our eye off the prize. We see what's happening
in the world. President Trump has been very clear that
energy security is national security.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
We're talking with our Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evitt and recently,
I guess you gave a speech down in Myrtle Beach.
It says, emphasize the importance these are. I guess where
some of your main priorities moving forward for South Carolina,
expanding school vouchers, eliminating the state income tax, and it
says leveraging artificial intelligence to enhance government efficiency. And to
(09:34):
your point about energy. I just read a study from
MIT that says by the year twenty twenty eight, artificial
intelligence just that will require at least a twenty two
percent increase in the amount of electricity America currently produces.
(09:55):
So we can't have artificial intelligence if we don't have electricity.
We're going to need a a lot more electricity coming quickly.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Well, you're absolutely right. And when you think about everything
we run in our own home, how much more electricity
we use, from our computers to charging our cell phones,
to charging iPads, like we are as consumers utilizing a
lot more. But you're right, big computer systems that are
doing the work that AI does, it's going to take.
(10:23):
Look at how much usage our data centers take. And
those data centers, you know, Lieutenant Governor Dieter Henderson from Utah,
you know, she kept going back to the fact that
we have to have quality data centers here on our soil,
and so that, like you said, that's going to require
a lot of energy because those two are national security issues. Right.
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We don't want our data being stored offshore somewhere. We
want it right here where we can protect it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You know, one of the things I'm excited about it
with the school voucher program of seeing how many parents
are much more interested now in matching up their child
given their learning availabilities or the way that they learn best,
with schools that will help them excel, and then how
that propels them into a future as we talked about
with the ais in corporation and one of the things
(11:14):
I'm excited about as well, and you talked about this,
and I wanted to hear if we get updates from
companies that are getting involved, not necessarily in the high school,
but even in the middle schools with helping not only
identify children who have that natural bind that they would
work in their genre of business, but also helping inspire
other kids by opening up the doors and showing them
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the opportunities of education or employment through a better education.
Are you having more conversations with CEOs about that particular
outreach from their companies.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Hey, if I was a conspiracy theorist, I think you
were listening to some of the meetings I was having
with some corporate people that were down here for ROTA,
because that was a huge topic and aimen to everything
you said. Parents feel like they have some control over
their children's learning, then it's a game changer and in
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children who have parents that are involved have the best
educational outcomes. Right, we're setting them up for success. And
so all those things you said, I believe one hundred
percent you're spot on. And that's why I have been
such a voice for school choice. Now there are some
colleges Coast of Carolina or Georgetown Tech have partnered up
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with a company called cloud Range, and cloud Range comes
in and does a lot of education. They bring in
the systems and the software to really get students involved
in cyber technology and cybersecurity, and it's it's a great resource.
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And they are partnering with Tri County Tech, Orgetown Tech,
Coastal Carolina so great. So I was having some meetings
with them. I introduced them to them because I thought
it was it was a great program. So I made
some introductions. That's getting rolling here in South Carolina. But
they have a program, a K through twelve program where
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they can come in and work in our middle schools
and in our high schools getting kids ready. And so
my question to them during the meeting I had here
at ROLGA was do you have a certification program, like
an industry accredited certification program? That if your program came
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into our K through twelve program and kids got into
you know, started getting excited in middle school and then
kept it going in high school, could they come out
with a work ready certification? And they said absolutely, And guys,
this is how I look at learning anymore. It needs
to be lifetime learning, not like we have viewed it
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for so long. Right, And you talk about our rural
areas and that kind of thing being a game changer
because kids coming out with that kind of certification at
a high school level can start earning forty five this
was their assessment, forty five thousand dollars a year, maybe fifty.
But that's just with high school. That's just a high
school diploma and certifications. But let's think how that opens
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up on a broader level. We have the most amazing
technical colleges in the country. You have a kid that
maybe doesn't think technical college or college is in their
future because it never has been part of their family.
Now they're earning, they get a good job, they're earning
a living where they're working, can now possibly send them
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to one of our amazing technical colleges to get the
next level and as they keep improving, you know their
position because they keep adding on to education, they can
eventually go to a four year college and they can
work their way through it. Because all of our kids
need to come out of K through twelve either being
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work ready, they need to be military ready, or they
need to be college ready. That should be like the
most basic of all of our goals in education, and
Ellen Weaver is really pushing for that. That is something
her and I have talked about. And I'm very encouraged
by what corporations are doing knowing that there are some
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kids that will need to be work ready before they
can be you know, two year four year bound in
their education.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Speaking with Pamela Everett, Lieutenant Governor, and you know, America
has I don't know if they've been slack jowed, but
they've been watching with great interest the riots in California
and other protests throughout the country. And basically what most
of these places are would be called sanctuary cities, sanctuary county,
sanctuary states. If you look at a map that's put
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out by a group that's designed to help illegals hide,
the Center for Immigration Studies, and you look at a
map of the United States, we thankfully do not have
any in South Carolina, but we are really surrounded by them.
Columbia County, Georgia, which is basically the home of Evans,
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which is the town next to Augusta Mecklenburg, North Carolina,
which is the home of Charlotte. These are designated sanctuary counties.
Are we finding that we're doing better because we don't
have any sanctuary counties or are we finding that we're
still having an illegal problem in South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I think we're doing I think we're doing better. I
think it's something we've never said we would have here
in South Carolina. We had some legislation passing if you
deem yourself with sanctuary city, you know, they would be
consequences as far as states funding. And we have amazing
law enforcement. That is something that has never been tolerated.
(17:02):
Bad behavior has never been tolerated. And you know when
you look look during the Biden administration where this really
picked up momentum fuel. Okay, the only places we saw
like kind of unrest during the the BLM riots was
Charleston Columbia. Both had Democrat mayors and look at this
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go around with this no kings rallying. The people of
Charleston said nope, we're getting rid of that sheriff. We're
getting rid of that mayor. Very quiet, same thing we
had to change in leadership in Colombia. I think when
bad actors realize that they're not going to get away
with bad behavior, it tends to squash it.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
The President was clear, the Governor and I were very clear.
You have a right to peacefully protest peacefully. So our
right as Americans, and we don't have to agree with
each other, but it is our rights. But as soon
as you pick up a brick, as soon as you
freeze a water bottle, as soon as you set something
on fire or loot one of our businesses, you will
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go to jail.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
But nothing really expresses my frustration, like me stealing an.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
iPhone and I thought, you know, isn't this the crazy thing?
iPhone has now been so, you know, like their technology
is so good, they know those phones are stolen. They'll
never let you turn it on.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
So it's like, so people like this is the warning,
right I'm doing. I guess I'm doing a PSA. I
didn't even realize I was gonna do that today. Be
careful when you buy some of these things online. Because
if it's a phone that somehow was stolen from somewhere,
Apple will lock those phones down. And I remember, I
mean I read this in an article. I've never bought
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a stolen phone, just for the record, so I don't
know for sure that you can't turn it on. But
I did read an article that basically when the looting
was happening during during all those marches, we had the
unrest with George Floyd and all that across the country,
and they kept Apple seemed to be the number one target.
They Apple put out a statement, you know, based on
(19:08):
this article, basically saying beware because if one of these
phones gets if you buy one, you'll never be able
to turn it on.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, I know we're getting pushed on time, but I
have to put my plug in one more time because
at some point we're going to have to have the
General Assembly have a conversation, particularly with AI coming, because
those computers are going to start running a little hot
and we're going to need more water to cool him down.
And I'm very concerned about our water table here in
South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
All right, now, you know what I said, We've got
to get We've got to get Director Mullikan on your show.
I mean he he is who I go for for
a lot of insight on those things I think you
guys would love to teach.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I would love to talk to him about that. People
keep telling me I'm overreacting to this, but I keep
saying we're gonna wake up one day and we're not
going to be able to turn on the faucet.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Well, Director, I'm telling you, Director Mullikan, you would love
to have that insight versation with them. He you know,
he teaches all that. He goes to the Galopogos Islands
and teaches there and talks about you know, water and
water diversion and water all kinds of things. I think
you would find him an amazing resource.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Well, thank you again for your time, Lieutenant Governor Pamela Ebatt.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Thank you guys so much. And we're going to have
to do this maybe twice a month. I feel like
there's way too much grown to cover a little bit at.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Times a month. Well, I'm just glad that you're assistant
with GLA. Have to see that. I have fifteen seconds
left in my thirty minute time allotment, and now you're
available to move about the state freely.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Well, thank you guys so much, and keep doing what
you're doing. I say it all the time. I said,
conservative talk radio is the best way to get messaging
out to the people. So thank you guys for what
you do. I think it is really important.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Love that message. If you could just change it from
talk radio to Jonathan and Kelly, that would be, okay,
an even better message.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, just Jonathan and Kelly statewide, nationwide, nobody else.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
That's right, that's the best way to get information.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Well, I think you guys are a great way to
get information, and I know that you're a big success
because people talk about you all the time.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Thanks for being a part of it. Have a great
day you too. Well. I certainly hope one of the
things that we talked about today in our rash thought,
as she indicated, or at least pointy two in that conversation,
I certainly hope we find out that South Carolina is
able to get ahead of energy production as compared to
our neighboring states. So we'll be able to keep our
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electric rates down because we're expanding the availability of the
customer base and selling electricity outside of our state boundaries. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Look, energy is a huge issue. We kind of got
to it there a little bit, especially with AI coming
online right now and that MIT study of twenty two
percent more electricity is going to be needed in the
United States power grid in the next three years, which
is I mean, I don't know, does twenty two percent
sound like a lot? Because it feels like a lot
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to me. Yeah, especially when you know you have rolling
brownouts happening across California and other places in this country.
We almost did it ourselves here in South Carolina? Was
it last winter? We almost close.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
According to previous conversations with Lieutenant Governor herself.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
We are barely hanging on to the energy needs currently,
and AI is going to suck up a lot more energy.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And the thing that we haven't even beginning to discuss yet,
it's not just the production of the energy, but it's
the transmission because we don't have transmission lines in place
at this point actually even delivered the energy. If we
could produce more of it, or produce the twenty two
percent more at minimum, we're gonna need.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I saw Elon Musk retweet in what I found to
be a fascinating little graph from somebody who said Americans
don't even know. They're in an energy race and it's
US versus China. Just so we're clear, China says they
want world dominance by the year twenty thirty. When it
comes to AI, by the year twenty thirty, they expect
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and doing everything within their power to become the dominant
AI force, because if you're the dominant AI force, you're
then the dominant military force, meaning because you won't it
doesn't matter if you have missiles, because they can then
come in and just hack the missile silos. They can
do everything. So they want to be the dominant force
by twenty thirty, and they are going all in on energy.
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And one of the things that they've done we talked
about this dam that they built a few years ago,
so big that it actually slowed the rotation of the Earth,
and they're building a second one that's even bigger. But
more importantly, where they're really starting to flex their muscles
is in the solar energy field, and they have figured
out a way to produce solar energy plants that are
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no bigger than ours. They're just more productive. And when
I say they're more productive, we have a slight lead
on them in the nuclear power plant capabilities. But like
they said in Elon Musk point it out, if you
tripled the amount of solar excuse me, nuclear energy plants
in America, you still don't catch up to the amount
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of energy that China can produce currently just off solar.
So the fact that we have that energy efficiency with
nuclear is great, and I'm not saying we shouldn't build
more nuclear plants, but solar energy is the future and
we need to start getting serious.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And the other thing they've been serious about for the
past several years of building coal plants. So when you
talk about or somebody wants to have a conversation about
should we really exercise all the above, China is already
exercising it and delivering it. And if we don't keep
up with China, Kelly's right, unless you're going to be
able to get Tom Cruise to come out of retirement
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after the Mission Impossible series has ended, get the entity
inside that chip, the AI technology is absolutely going to
take over the nuclear capability of any of China's adversary. Adversaries,
which they've already stated is the world.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yes, they want to rule the world. And by the way,
the AI experts suspect you know, based on their research
that the the United States does have a slight lead
in the AI arms races we'll call it, but that
lead is three to four months. We're three to four
months ahead of China right now. But if we we
could very easily lose that lead based on the lack
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of energy that is needed to keep this thing going,
it's I mean, this is a this is going to
be the most transformative time in the world's history. Will
happen in the next forty eight months.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
If we don't find another way to keep up with
the quantum leap that they're going to make in China
having to do with the AI technology. Is we've already
described just in this brief conversation that we're going to
be seriously in trouble.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
So it we'll be speaking Chinese and thankfully you'll have
AI to teach you.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And then the other thing that I don't know if
we have a China link to this or not. Do
we know that China is spying on Nancy makes they
have a Chinese spy?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Wasn't that the sole reason for the weather balloon.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It was actually following, was.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
For that that particular congressperson in order to spy on
her in District one.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Well, she made news because, according to the posting courier
in the headline, Congressman Nancy Mays, Congresswoman Nancy May supports
shutting down federal breeding colony on South Carolina's Monkey Island.
And we talked about Monkey Island previously. But what's even
more interesting is buried in the story. Is this this
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idea that there was a you know, the company that
runs the Monkey Island at the genesis something at a
company here in the article here in a second, it's
called Alpha Genesis, who owns Monkey Island and Yemissy and
they also have several other Monkey islands. She claims that
one of the family members of a CEO from Alpha
Genesis showed up at one of her town.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Halls just a spy on her, to spy on her. Now, again,
you're giving a public speech, but this is a spy
and he was trying to remember the actual words she used.
But it was basically he was so aggressive in his
spying that listening intently. Yeah, my security team was concerned
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he might be there to do physical harm to me. Well,
the victimization of Nancy Mace never end. People are coming
to her public speeches and listening attentively.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'm going to say something, but I'm not. I'm just
going to let it sit right there because that would
never mind, all right. Tell you what, we will continue
to track the spies who are tracking her with the
spy balloons or otherwise. And I'm sure China is involved
in this somehow. Maybe she will explain that in the
next article about Monkey Island here in South Carolina,
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, when you become an immigrant, to think about, Okay,
I go to America because I want to use America
for the great opportunities that America.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Has, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Then you have to think about, Okay, if I get
all of those things from America, then I have to
give something back. You have a responsibility as an immigrant
to give back to America.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show woc.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Did no one at the view, no one who hosts
on the panel, or even a producer, even do any
kind of vetting or background check or history or understand
what Arnold Schwarzenegger stands for when he talks about America.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Well, that was two days ago, and they made that
horrific mistake. Yesterday, Whoopy Goldberg got into an argument with
Alyssa Farah and her argument is it's at least as bad,
if not worse for gays and blacks in the year
twenty twenty five in the United States than it is
(01:03):
in Iran. It's worse for blacks. And she said they're
not even done hanging us yet. And she said they
like to drag homosexuals behind pickup trucks in this country. Now,
who's doing that? By the way, is that the federal
government or is that just a band of murderous thugs?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Because I am America, And the conversation will continue, especially
today on June tenth. It started earlier this morning on
MSNBC in the way that how do you face the
continued slavery of the African American community under the Trump administration,
and how do you celebrate June Nineteenth in the face
of the man who, in fact is a white supremacist.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
It's interesting how many blacks he's appointed to his cabinet. Look,
I'm not saying Donald Trump is the most unbiased person
in the world, but he certainly does not have any
hate in his hearts for Jews. I remember last term
they were saying he was antisemitic, and I'm like, you're
taking a look at his daughter who just converted. I mean,
(02:08):
he was anti Semitic, and he hates blacks and minorities.
And yet you know, we've all heard the stories he
was winning INAACP awards a few years ago. He obviously
Donald The problem for liberals is that if you don't
show preferential treatment to a certain group, that means you
hate said group. So Democrats have spent an entire lifetime
(02:32):
of building up groups and let them know that you
have been victimized because you're a homosexual, because you're transgendered,
because you're a Latino, because you're an Indian, because whatever
you are, you are, if you're not a white male,
straight white male, then you've been victimized by this country
and in America. The way the rest of us see
(02:53):
it is no, we're not. There's certain groups of people
who may victimize us, but the law says we're all free.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
And well, they're selling it hard on that hard hitting
news show, the view who insist on making news more
than actually recognizing the reality of it and not far
behind them MSNBC, Hey, we got a couple of South
Carolina things to deal with us. Speaking to South Carolina,
we had an opportunity to go to the Jonathan and
Kelly Double Secret Probationary hotline for our Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Abatt.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Good morning, my friends. How have you guys been. It
always seems like a lifetime since we talked. We have
to get together a couple times a month. I feel
it too much.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Happened well, You've covered so much ground since we talked
to you last You've got to be the busiest lieutenant
governor of the country. You've been all over the place
talking to more businesses and talking to community leaders.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, yes, and I mean that's been the big thing.
We can't help people unless we're out there with the people,
listening and talking. I've always felt like government works best
when it's out and about and listening to what businesses
have to say and what our citizens have to say.
And we've got to be solving their problem.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
What kind of solutions did you get from Kid Rock
down at the country music.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
So it was interesting. We talked a lot about our president.
I congratulated him on his new Detroit Cowboy bar that
opened up in Nashville. And it was interesting because as
his show started on Sunday night and if if you
have listeners that were out there at the Carolina Country
(04:21):
Music Festival. Again another great showing of celebrities here in
South Carolina. But he ended with a message from the President.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And so and certainly I think a man that can
bring together DJT and Bill Maher we almost need to
send into the Middle East because he can bring different
factions to the table plainly from opposite ends to the coin.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
He was so funny because I said to him, I said,
that was quite quite a feat bringing Bill Maher to
the White House. And he said, oh, man, let me
tell you I had it was a little nervous. He goes,
that's why I bought Dana White with me. But it
all turned out well and it was a good thing.
And I did tell them that. I said, you know,
(05:05):
I think it's easier to criticize people that you don't know.
You know what I mean. I think once you see
people face to face and you shake their hand and
you strip away all those missed conceived notions about them,
it makes them real to you, and it's harder to
(05:27):
be I mean, you can still criticize, I mean, but
it's hard to just go out and be just plain
old insulting.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I want to ask you specifically about something that popped
up in the paper today, but this is just a
continuation of a story that we've been talking about now
for more than a year and what our energy needs
will be in the state of South Carolina in the
next decade. Specifically, we talked about the portable nuclear We've
talked we've seen in the newspaper, pushback locally from different
(05:54):
counties and different municipalities about solar farms and the like.
But there's a new article today in the paper and
a bill that was signed by government master, the South
Carolina Energy Security Act, And I know that there's got
to be a lot of benefit to the downside that
I think a lot of South Carolinians will read into this,
(06:15):
and it seems like we're doing the end around the
PSC and we'll make it easier for energy companies to
raise rates.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So you know you're right and listen, I pay electric
villages like everybody else. Do I wish electricity was free?
Absolutely do I think it can be free? Absolutely? Not right, So,
you know, there was a lot of talk every time
we have an increase, the increases seemed to be so much,
which like gets everybody's attention because they have to wait
(06:45):
so long. Right, you can't have incremental increases, which a
lot of people have said anytime they get an increase,
I wish we could have done it, you know, I
wish we could have done this in two steps instead
of getting hit with it all at once. So that
was addressing some concerns from the other side when you
talk about rates. Now the benefits. The benefits is that
(07:05):
it opens up the door for the resurrection of VC summer,
which you know, I'm just wrapping up a Tenant governor's
a Republican Lieutenant Governor's conference on my way back to
South Carolina today and we as we said before we
started taping, my colleagues are going, Man, you guys aren't
(07:27):
a great position. The fact that we passed a bill
that basically was cutting red tape. You know, everybody talks about,
you know, the bureaucracy of getting projects through and when
you talk to businesses, and as you said, I'm not
talking to businesses all the time, my friends, and that
is the biggest thing to them when they can't get
permitting through quick. This all adds to the cost of
(07:50):
any project. And I don't if you're providing a service
and your project costs go up, guess what the price
of those things go up. And so President Trump has
said that on the federal level, you know, we need
to cut through the red tape and the bureaucracy of
permitting so that businesses can do their business. And so
(08:11):
that's part of this bill. Basically, if an energy company
goes to any department that any permitting from and it
doesn't get approved or denied within six months, it's an
automatic approval. So that's going to work on efficiency, which
we've all been talking about, right, and we have to
keep things moving along. I think it's another huge positive
(08:35):
is that it's going to convert one of our pull
fire plants into natural gas, and that's going to really
help the grand stand. The PD Dominion and Santie Cooper
are going to be, you know, partnering on that. So
I think we're in a really good We're in a
(08:56):
really good spot for becoming energy independent, and let's not
keep our eye off the prize. We see what's happening
in the world. President Trump has been very clear that
energy security is national security.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
We're talking with our Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evitt and recently,
I guess you gave a speech down in Myrtle Beach.
It says, emphasize the importance these are. I guess where
some of your main priorities moving forward for South Carolina,
expanding school vouchers, eliminating the state income tax, and it
says leveraging artificial intelligence to enhance government efficiency. And to
(09:34):
your point about energy. I just read a study from
MIT that says by the year twenty twenty eight, artificial
intelligence just that will require at least a twenty two
percent increase in the amount of electricity America currently produces.
(09:55):
So we can't have artificial intelligence if we don't have electricity.
We're going to need a a lot more electricity coming quickly.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Well, you're absolutely right. And when you think about everything
we run in our own home, how much more electricity
we use, from our computers to charging our cell phones,
to charging iPads, like we are as consumers utilizing a
lot more. But you're right, big computer systems that are
doing the work that AI does, it's going to take.
(10:23):
Look at how much usage our data centers take. And
those data centers, you know, Lieutenant Governor Dieter Henderson from Utah,
you know, she kept going back to the fact that
we have to have quality data centers here on our soil,
and so that, like you said, that's going to require
a lot of energy because those two are national security issues. Right.
(10:47):
We don't want our data being stored offshore somewhere. We
want it right here where we can protect it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
You know, one of the things I'm excited about it
with the school voucher program of seeing how many parents
are much more interested now in matching up their child
given their learning availabilities or the way that they learn best,
with schools that will help them excel, and then how
that propels them into a future as we talked about
with the ais in corporation and one of the things
(11:14):
I'm excited about as well, and you talked about this,
and I wanted to hear if we get updates from
companies that are getting involved, not necessarily in the high school,
but even in the middle schools with helping not only
identify children who have that natural bind that they would
work in their genre of business, but also helping inspire
other kids by opening up the doors and showing them
(11:34):
the opportunities of education or employment through a better education.
Are you having more conversations with CEOs about that particular
outreach from their companies.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Hey, if I was a conspiracy theorist, I think you
were listening to some of the meetings I was having
with some corporate people that were down here for ROTA,
because that was a huge topic and aimen to everything
you said. Parents feel like they have some control over
their children's learning, then it's a game changer and in
(12:10):
children who have parents that are involved have the best
educational outcomes. Right, we're setting them up for success. And
so all those things you said, I believe one hundred
percent you're spot on. And that's why I have been
such a voice for school choice. Now there are some
colleges Coast of Carolina or Georgetown Tech have partnered up
(12:34):
with a company called cloud Range, and cloud Range comes
in and does a lot of education. They bring in
the systems and the software to really get students involved
in cyber technology and cybersecurity, and it's it's a great resource.
(12:56):
And they are partnering with Tri County Tech, Orgetown Tech,
Coastal Carolina so great. So I was having some meetings
with them. I introduced them to them because I thought
it was it was a great program. So I made
some introductions. That's getting rolling here in South Carolina. But
they have a program, a K through twelve program where
(13:19):
they can come in and work in our middle schools
and in our high schools getting kids ready. And so
my question to them during the meeting I had here
at ROLGA was do you have a certification program, like
an industry accredited certification program? That if your program came
(13:42):
into our K through twelve program and kids got into
you know, started getting excited in middle school and then
kept it going in high school, could they come out
with a work ready certification? And they said absolutely, And guys,
this is how I look at learning anymore. It needs
to be lifetime learning, not like we have viewed it
(14:04):
for so long. Right, And you talk about our rural
areas and that kind of thing being a game changer
because kids coming out with that kind of certification at
a high school level can start earning forty five this
was their assessment, forty five thousand dollars a year, maybe fifty.
But that's just with high school. That's just a high
school diploma and certifications. But let's think how that opens
(14:28):
up on a broader level. We have the most amazing
technical colleges in the country. You have a kid that
maybe doesn't think technical college or college is in their
future because it never has been part of their family.
Now they're earning, they get a good job, they're earning
a living where they're working, can now possibly send them
(14:51):
to one of our amazing technical colleges to get the
next level and as they keep improving, you know their
position because they keep adding on to education, they can
eventually go to a four year college and they can
work their way through it. Because all of our kids
need to come out of K through twelve either being
(15:11):
work ready, they need to be military ready, or they
need to be college ready. That should be like the
most basic of all of our goals in education, and
Ellen Weaver is really pushing for that. That is something
her and I have talked about. And I'm very encouraged
by what corporations are doing knowing that there are some
(15:32):
kids that will need to be work ready before they
can be you know, two year four year bound in
their education.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Speaking with Pamela Everett, Lieutenant Governor, and you know, America
has I don't know if they've been slack jowed, but
they've been watching with great interest the riots in California
and other protests throughout the country. And basically what most
of these places are would be called sanctuary cities, sanctuary county,
sanctuary states. If you look at a map that's put
(16:02):
out by a group that's designed to help illegals hide,
the Center for Immigration Studies, and you look at a
map of the United States, we thankfully do not have
any in South Carolina, but we are really surrounded by them.
Columbia County, Georgia, which is basically the home of Evans,
(16:24):
which is the town next to Augusta Mecklenburg, North Carolina,
which is the home of Charlotte. These are designated sanctuary counties.
Are we finding that we're doing better because we don't
have any sanctuary counties or are we finding that we're
still having an illegal problem in South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I think we're doing I think we're doing better. I
think it's something we've never said we would have here
in South Carolina. We had some legislation passing if you
deem yourself with sanctuary city, you know, they would be
consequences as far as states funding. And we have amazing
law enforcement. That is something that has never been tolerated.
(17:02):
Bad behavior has never been tolerated. And you know when
you look look during the Biden administration where this really
picked up momentum fuel. Okay, the only places we saw
like kind of unrest during the the BLM riots was
Charleston Columbia. Both had Democrat mayors and look at this
(17:26):
go around with this no kings rallying. The people of
Charleston said nope, we're getting rid of that sheriff. We're
getting rid of that mayor. Very quiet, same thing we
had to change in leadership in Colombia. I think when
bad actors realize that they're not going to get away
with bad behavior, it tends to squash it.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
The President was clear, the Governor and I were very clear.
You have a right to peacefully protest peacefully. So our
right as Americans, and we don't have to agree with
each other, but it is our rights. But as soon
as you pick up a brick, as soon as you
freeze a water bottle, as soon as you set something
on fire or loot one of our businesses, you will
(18:09):
go to jail.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
But nothing really expresses my frustration, like me stealing an.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
iPhone and I thought, you know, isn't this the crazy thing?
iPhone has now been so, you know, like their technology
is so good, they know those phones are stolen. They'll
never let you turn it on.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
So it's like, so people like this is the warning,
right I'm doing. I guess I'm doing a PSA. I
didn't even realize I was gonna do that today. Be
careful when you buy some of these things online. Because
if it's a phone that somehow was stolen from somewhere,
Apple will lock those phones down. And I remember, I
mean I read this in an article. I've never bought
(18:47):
a stolen phone, just for the record, so I don't
know for sure that you can't turn it on. But
I did read an article that basically when the looting
was happening during during all those marches, we had the
unrest with George Floyd and all that across the country,
and they kept Apple seemed to be the number one target.
They Apple put out a statement, you know, based on
(19:08):
this article, basically saying beware because if one of these
phones gets if you buy one, you'll never be able
to turn it on.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, I know we're getting pushed on time, but I
have to put my plug in one more time because
at some point we're going to have to have the
General Assembly have a conversation, particularly with AI coming, because
those computers are going to start running a little hot
and we're going to need more water to cool him down.
And I'm very concerned about our water table here in
South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
All right, now, you know what I said, We've got
to get We've got to get Director Mullikan on your show.
I mean he he is who I go for for
a lot of insight on those things I think you
guys would love to teach.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I would love to talk to him about that. People
keep telling me I'm overreacting to this, but I keep
saying we're gonna wake up one day and we're not
going to be able to turn on the faucet.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Well, Director, I'm telling you, Director Mullikan, you would love
to have that insight versation with them. He you know,
he teaches all that. He goes to the Galopogos Islands
and teaches there and talks about you know, water and
water diversion and water all kinds of things. I think
you would find him an amazing resource.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Well, thank you again for your time, Lieutenant Governor Pamela Ebatt.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Thank you guys so much. And we're going to have
to do this maybe twice a month. I feel like
there's way too much grown to cover a little bit at.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Times a month. Well, I'm just glad that you're assistant
with GLA. Have to see that. I have fifteen seconds
left in my thirty minute time allotment, and now you're
available to move about the state freely.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Well, thank you guys so much, and keep doing what
you're doing. I say it all the time. I said,
conservative talk radio is the best way to get messaging
out to the people. So thank you guys for what
you do. I think it is really important.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Love that message. If you could just change it from
talk radio to Jonathan and Kelly, that would be, okay,
an even better message.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, just Jonathan and Kelly statewide, nationwide, nobody else.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
That's right, that's the best way to get information.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Well, I think you guys are a great way to
get information, and I know that you're a big success
because people talk about you all the time.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Thanks for being a part of it. Have a great
day you too. Well. I certainly hope one of the
things that we talked about today in our rash thought,
as she indicated, or at least pointy two in that conversation,
I certainly hope we find out that South Carolina is
able to get ahead of energy production as compared to
our neighboring states. So we'll be able to keep our
(21:30):
electric rates down because we're expanding the availability of the
customer base and selling electricity outside of our state boundaries. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Look, energy is a huge issue. We kind of got
to it there a little bit, especially with AI coming
online right now and that MIT study of twenty two
percent more electricity is going to be needed in the
United States power grid in the next three years, which
is I mean, I don't know, does twenty two percent
sound like a lot? Because it feels like a lot
(21:59):
to me. Yeah, especially when you know you have rolling
brownouts happening across California and other places in this country.
We almost did it ourselves here in South Carolina? Was
it last winter? We almost close.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
According to previous conversations with Lieutenant Governor herself.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
We are barely hanging on to the energy needs currently,
and AI is going to suck up a lot more energy.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
And the thing that we haven't even beginning to discuss yet,
it's not just the production of the energy, but it's
the transmission because we don't have transmission lines in place
at this point actually even delivered the energy. If we
could produce more of it, or produce the twenty two
percent more at minimum, we're gonna need.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I saw Elon Musk retweet in what I found to
be a fascinating little graph from somebody who said Americans
don't even know. They're in an energy race and it's
US versus China. Just so we're clear, China says they
want world dominance by the year twenty thirty. When it
comes to AI, by the year twenty thirty, they expect
(22:59):
and doing everything within their power to become the dominant
AI force, because if you're the dominant AI force, you're
then the dominant military force, meaning because you won't it
doesn't matter if you have missiles, because they can then
come in and just hack the missile silos. They can
do everything. So they want to be the dominant force
by twenty thirty, and they are going all in on energy.
(23:21):
And one of the things that they've done we talked
about this dam that they built a few years ago,
so big that it actually slowed the rotation of the Earth,
and they're building a second one that's even bigger. But
more importantly, where they're really starting to flex their muscles
is in the solar energy field, and they have figured
out a way to produce solar energy plants that are
(23:41):
no bigger than ours. They're just more productive. And when
I say they're more productive, we have a slight lead
on them in the nuclear power plant capabilities. But like
they said in Elon Musk point it out, if you
tripled the amount of solar excuse me, nuclear energy plants
in America, you still don't catch up to the amount
(24:02):
of energy that China can produce currently just off solar.
So the fact that we have that energy efficiency with
nuclear is great, and I'm not saying we shouldn't build
more nuclear plants, but solar energy is the future and
we need to start getting serious.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And the other thing they've been serious about for the
past several years of building coal plants. So when you
talk about or somebody wants to have a conversation about
should we really exercise all the above, China is already
exercising it and delivering it. And if we don't keep
up with China, Kelly's right, unless you're going to be
able to get Tom Cruise to come out of retirement
(24:38):
after the Mission Impossible series has ended, get the entity
inside that chip, the AI technology is absolutely going to
take over the nuclear capability of any of China's adversary. Adversaries,
which they've already stated is the world.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yes, they want to rule the world. And by the way,
the AI experts suspect you know, based on their research
that the the United States does have a slight lead
in the AI arms races we'll call it, but that
lead is three to four months. We're three to four
months ahead of China right now. But if we we
could very easily lose that lead based on the lack
(25:15):
of energy that is needed to keep this thing going,
it's I mean, this is a this is going to
be the most transformative time in the world's history. Will
happen in the next forty eight months.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
If we don't find another way to keep up with
the quantum leap that they're going to make in China
having to do with the AI technology. Is we've already
described just in this brief conversation that we're going to
be seriously in trouble.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
So it we'll be speaking Chinese and thankfully you'll have
AI to teach you.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And then the other thing that I don't know if
we have a China link to this or not. Do
we know that China is spying on Nancy makes they
have a Chinese spy?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Wasn't that the sole reason for the weather balloon.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
It was actually following, was.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
For that that particular congressperson in order to spy on
her in District one.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Well, she made news because, according to the posting courier
in the headline, Congressman Nancy Mays, Congresswoman Nancy May supports
shutting down federal breeding colony on South Carolina's Monkey Island.
And we talked about Monkey Island previously. But what's even
more interesting is buried in the story. Is this this
(26:27):
idea that there was a you know, the company that
runs the Monkey Island at the genesis something at a
company here in the article here in a second, it's
called Alpha Genesis, who owns Monkey Island and Yemissy and
they also have several other Monkey islands. She claims that
one of the family members of a CEO from Alpha
Genesis showed up at one of her town.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Halls just a spy on her, to spy on her. Now, again,
you're giving a public speech, but this is a spy
and he was trying to remember the actual words she used.
But it was basically he was so aggressive in his
spying that listening intently. Yeah, my security team was concerned
(27:11):
he might be there to do physical harm to me. Well,
the victimization of Nancy Mace never end. People are coming
to her public speeches and listening attentively.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'm going to say something, but I'm not. I'm just
going to let it sit right there because that would
never mind, all right. Tell you what, we will continue
to track the spies who are tracking her with the
spy balloons or otherwise. And I'm sure China is involved
in this somehow. Maybe she will explain that in the
next article about Monkey Island here in South Carolina,
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