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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, we've seen real wages for hourly workers, non
supervisory workers rise almost two percent in the first.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Five months, Kelly Nash, Joe Biden opened the border and
it was flooded. The Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
South Carolina's own Scott Bessett, Treasury Secretary, pointing out some
great news for Americans coast to coast.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And you can directly link that great news to the
deportations of illegals.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You shared something the other day in the podcast we
won't get into maybe in segment three having to do
with the Trump administration and how that exactly is playing out.
That wages are going up.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Isn't that great?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yes? Also this week, James Clyburn's already holding auditions. I
guess he's getting ready for the big twenty twenty eight
presidential run.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Do you think if I went down and shined hissues enough,
I could be the next president?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't know. Oh, and we've got comedy and death
in South Carolina. Well that's the way I presented it.
Maybe all overstated it. Maybe I'm just trying to make
something out of this that it's not.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Look, you've got to be careful when you're killing someone.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That's very true. We'll take that up before this program ends,
you know. But the other day we had an opportunity
to speak to our Lieutenant governor about several things having
to do with the General Assembly wrapping up at session,
moving into the next year, and also some of the
legislation that was passed. We'll touch on that coming up here.
I'll tell you what. Let's kick it off with this.
Good morning, Lieutenant Governor.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Good morning, my friends. How have you guys been. It
always seems like a lifetime since we talked. We have
to get together a couple times a month. I feel
it too much happened.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, you've covered so much ground since we talked to
you last. You've got to be the busiest lieutenant governor
of the country. You've been all over the place talking
to more businesses and talking to community leaders.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
That's been the big thing. We can't help people unless
we're out there with the people, listening and talking. I've
always felt like government works baut when it's out and
about and listening to what businesses have to say and
what our citizens have to say. And we've got to
be solving their problem.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What kind of solutions did you get from Kid Rock
down at the country.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
So it was interesting. We talked a lot about our president.
I congratulated him on his new Detroit Cowboy bar that
opened up in Nashville, and if you have listeners that
were out there at the Carolina Country Music Festival again
another great showing of celebrities here in South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And certainly I think the man that can bring together
DJT and Bill Maher we almost need to send into
the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
He was so funny because I said to him, I said,
that was quite a feat bringing Bill Maher to the
White House. And he said, oh, man, let me tell
you I had. It was a little nervous. He goes,
that's why I bought Dana White with me. But it
all turned out well and it was a good thing.
And I did tell him that. I said, you know,
it's easier to criticize people that you don't know. I
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think once you see people face to face and you
shake their hand, you strip away all those missconceived notions
about them. It makes them real to you. I mean,
you can still criticize, but it's hard to just go
out and be just plan old insulting.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I want to ask you specifically about something that popped
up in the paper today, but this is just a
continuation of a story that we've been talking about now
for more than a year and what our energy needs
will be in the state of South Carolina. We've seen
in the newspaper pushback locally from different counties about solar
farms and the like. But there's a new article today
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in the paper and a bill that was signed by
government master, the South Carolina Energy Security Act, And I
know that there's got to be a lot of benefit
to the downside that I think a lot of South
Carolinians will read into this, and it seems like we're
doing an end around the PSC and we'll make it
easier for energy companies to raise rates.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
I pay electric bills just like everybody else do. I
wish electricity was free, absolutely, so. There was a lot
of talks. Every time we have an increase, the increases
seem to be so much, which gets everybody's attention because
they have to wait so long. Right, you can't have
incremental increases, which a lot of people have said anytime
they get an increase. I wish we could have done
this in two steps instead of getting hit with it
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all at once. So that was addressing some concerns from
the other side when you talk about rates. Now, the
benefits is that it opens up the door for the
resurrection of VC Summer, which you know, I'm just wrapping
up a Lieutenant governor's a Republican Lieutenant Governor's conference on
my way back to South Carolina today, and my colleagues
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are going, Man, you guys aren't a great position. The
fact that we passed a bill that basically was cutting
red tape. You know, everybody talks about, you know, the
bureaucracy of getting projects through and when you talk to businesses,
and as you said, I'm not talking to businesses all
the time, and that is the biggest thing to them
when they can't get permitting through quick. This all adds
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to the cost of any project. And if you're providing
a service and your project costs go up, guess what
the price of those things go up. And so President
Trump has said that on the federal level, you know,
we need to cut through the red tape and the
bureaue or see of permitting so that businesses can do
their business. That's part of this bill. Basically, if an
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energy company goes to any department that any permitting from
and it doesn't get approved or denied within six months,
it's an automatic approval. So that's going to work on efficiency,
which we've all been talking about, right, and we have
to keep things moving along. Another huge positive is that
it's going to convert one of our pull fire plans
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into natural gas, and that's going to really help the
grand stand. The PD Dominion and Santie Cooper are going
to be partnering on that. So I think we're in
a really good We're in a really good spot for
becoming energy independent, and let's not keep our eye off
the prize. We see what's happening in the world. President
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Trump has been very clear that energy security is national security.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
We're talking with our Lieutenant Governor panla Evitt and recently,
I guess you gave a speech down in as Myrtle Beach.
It says, because these are I guess where you some
of your main priorities moving forward for South Carolina, expanding
school vouchers, eliminating the state income tax, and it says
leveraging artificial intelligence to enhance government efficiency. And to your
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point about energy, I just read a study from MIT
that says by the year twenty twenty eight, artificial intelligence
will require at least a twenty two percent increase in
the amount of electricity America currently produces. So we're going
to need a lot more electricity coming quickly.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Well, think about everything we run in our own home.
How much more electricity we use. We are, as consumers
utilizing a lot more. But you're right, big computer systems
that are doing the work that AI does. Look at
how much usage are data centers tach Lieutenant Governor Dieter
Henderson from Utah keV. Going back to the fact that
we have to have quality data centers here on our soil.
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That's going to require a lot of energy because those
two are national security. We don't want our data being
stored offshore somewhere. We want it right here where we
can protect it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know. One of the things I'm excited about it
with the school voucher program is seeing how many parents
are much more interested now in matching up their child
given their learning availabilities or the way that they learn best,
with schools that will help them excel, and then how
that propels them into a future. As we talked about
with the ais In corporation and one of the things
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I'm excited about as well. And you talked about this,
and I wanted to hear if we get updates from
companies that are getting involved, not necessarily in the high school,
but even in the middle schools with helping not only
identify children who have that natural bend that they would
work in their genre of business, but also helping inspire
other kids by opening up the doors and showing them
the opportunities through a better education. We are you having
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more conversations with CEOs about that particular outreach.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
If I was a conspiracy theorist, I think you were
listening to some of the meetings I was having with
some corporate people that were down here Rota, because that
was a huge topic. And amen to everything you said.
When parents feel like they have some control over their
children's learning, it's a game changer. And children who have
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parents that are involved have the best educational outcomes. Right,
we're setting them up for success. And so all those
things you said, I believe one hundred percent you're spot on,
and that's why I have been such a voice for
school choice. There are some colleges coastal Carolina or Georgetown
Tech have partnered up with a company called cloud Range,
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and cloud Range comes in and does a lot of education.
They bring in the systems and the software to really
get students involved in cyber technology and cybersecurity and it's
a great resource. And they are partnering with Tri County
Tech or Georgetown Tech Coastal Carolina. So I was having
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some meetings with them. I introduced them to them. I
thought it was a great program, so I made some introductions.
That's getting rolling here in South Carolina. But they have
a K through twelve program where they can come in
and work in our middle schools and in our high
schools getting kids ready. And so my question to them
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during the meeting I had here at ROGA was do
you have a certification program, like an industry accredited certification
program that if your program came into our K through
twelve program and kids started getting excited in middle school
and then kept it going in high school, could they
come out with a work ready certification. And they said absolutely.
(09:41):
This is how I look at learning anymore. It needs
to be lifetime learning, not like we have viewed it
for so long. And you talk about our rural areas
and that kind of thing being a game changer because
kids coming out with that kind of certification at a
high school level, this was their assessment forty five thousand
dollars a year, maybe fifty that's just the high school
diploma and certifications. But let's think how that opens up
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on a broader level. We have the most amazing technical
colleges in the country. You have a kid that maybe
doesn't think technical college or college in their future because
it never has been part of their family. Now they're
earning a living where their work can now possibly send
them to one of our amazing technical colleges to get
the next level. And as they keep improving their position
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because they keep adding on to education, they can eventually
go to a four year college and they can work
their way through it. Because all of our kids need
to come out of K through twelve either being work ready,
military ready, or they need to be college ready. That
should be like the most basic of all of our
goals in education, and Ellen Weaver is really pushing for that,
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and I'm very encouraged by what corporations are doing knowing
that there are some kids that will need to be
work ready before they can be two year four year
bound in their education.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I did have to edit that interview because she gives
us a lot of time. Thank you for the time
you spend with us on the phone. And you could
hear the entire interview with our lieutenant governor on our podcast.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yes, you can always look for the rash Thought podcast
on the I Hurt Radio app.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
And we'll contemplate more. Should Kelly actually ask for an
audience of James Clyburn because he is taking auditions.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
People are flying in from all over the country to
kiss his butt because you get to be the president apparently.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Next the Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Rush, when you become an immigrant, to think about, Okay,
I go to America because I'm going to use America
for the great opportunities that America has, Kelly Nash, then
you have to think about, Okay, if I get all
of those things from America, then I have to give
something back.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You have a.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Responsibility as an immigrant to give back to America.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Jonathan and Kelly Show, we can take more lessons from
Arnold Schwarzenegger and talk about those in segment three. What
be Goldberg is just trolling America. It's Sally's wrapped around
our axles right now. I have to go home every
afternoon and colmer it down.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
You know what, if we are going to talk about
immigration in segment three, I will save my comments. But
Milton Friedman gave a speech in nineteen seventy eight that
I will be quoting from that. We'll just punch all
you ice people in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Excellent. All right. So now we've begun the auditions for
the twenty twenty eight presidential run because Mark Kelly flew
in too Charleston for James Clyburn. Well, they were there
because of Emmanual nine. And this has been a Look,
it's been one of those weeks in Charleston in particular,
and if you're in that area or from that area,
then you know it's the Emmanuel nine and also the
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nine firefighters that were lost in that tragedy. So it's
been a lot of reflection going on in Charleston. And
we're not here to talk about the loophole, although I
would love to preach about it again.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean, shouldn't we because that's what Mark Kelly was
here for. Mark Kelly came in and said, if you
do not close the Charleston loophole, then we should expect
rampant deaths all across the country because the Charleston loophole
was designed specifically to get the guns into the hands
of murderers. That's why Charleston created the Charleston loophole.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I hope that he will say I have not heard
his comments, nor if I read a transcript, but I'm
hoping that he was able to make that case, because
that certainly would put him at the top five at
minimum for James Clyburn's list for presidential candidates. If you
can take a line of horse crap and deliver it
like that and do it so that the moderates and
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the persons in the center would believe that to be true.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I mean, that's what Mark Kelly was presenting. This is
his quote. This should not be a partisan issue. If
you look at surveys across the people of South Carolina
and across the country. In South Carolina, eighty percent of
people believe in universal background checks before you buy a gun.
Across the country, it's over ninety percent, and yet we
still have the Charleston loophole.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I'm not going to argue with the fact that a
lot of people do agree with you should have background checks,
and I'm not saying they shouldn't be. I actually agree
that there should be. I'm all for that. But here's
the problem. They won't Agreeze the skids again on the
log flume to hell, because this is how you slide.
You get that quick slide into certain hell when you
allow the government to put themselves in a position where
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they deny you a Second Amendment right, or any amendment,
or any constitutional right because of a government screw ups,
which is the origin of the Charleston loophole. The Department
of Justice inability to discern the difference between the Columbia
Law Enforcement Office and the West Columbia Police Law Enforcement Office.
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If that department, the Department of Justice, doesn't even know
the difference between two law enforcement agencies, how can they
a possibly be treated or trusted to do a background
check and b how could they possibly be trusted to
do it in a timely manner, which is what the
loopholes all about. Take the time restrict ain'ts off of
it and give government an open ended, according to this article,
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opportunity to tell you no by simply restraining your ability
to buy a firearm.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Okay, So the Charleston loophole, as explained by James Cliburn
and his followers. The argument goes as such that back
in twenty fifteen, Dylan Roof was able to buy a
gun because the government felt pressure to approve him within
three days, because that's the law. You have three days
to decide if he's worthy of buying a gun. And
they would not have sold them the gun had they
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known that there was a drug charge against him. He
would have been ineligible to buy that gun. But because
they were rushed, they approved him. And then that's hence
that's called the Charleston loophole. That's what their argument is.
The reality of the situation is that he did get
a drug charge. He got it in Columbia. However, the
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part of Columbia that he got it in is in
Lexington County. So when they looked, they saw Lexington County.
They never checked with Columbia. They just looked at the
Lexington County courts and they said there is no more
charge here, so they cleared him. They saw the charge,
but they said there's no court case, there's nothing happening.
It's been dismissed. So they approved him before three days.
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You could have given them three hundred years and they
would have still come to the same conclusion that he
was going to get approved. As Jonathan points out, because
they did not know what they were doing.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
They couldn't even find the origin of the report because
how can he possibly use that. Well, then they go
onto this article to point out how many states now
have put pretty much unlimited the barriers on the Department
of Justice to decide whether you should have a gun
or not. But when you click on it and actually
read the story, there are several states here, for instance,
they decided to do what they want to do with
their own state, and I'm okay with that. I'm cool
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with it. If the state of Arkansas wanted to extend
it to ten days as a waiting period and extend
the background check for thirty days, that seems a little
bit extreme for me. But you know something, let Arkansas
do Arkansas's things, Jonathan. We are now living in an era.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Of AI. But even before you got to AI, computer
records just about everything I know the federal government, we've
heard about there what is it the quarry or whatever
that they've got to hide their records in. So the
government employees, takes like a year to for them to retire, yeah, average,
But just about every municipality in America now is on computers,
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and that's where all the files are kept. And when
you're specifically looking on a background check for somebody if
they've been arrested, it's going to be in a computer file.
And nowadays it's even easier than it was ten years
ago to find this information. James Clyburn has done a
masterful job of creating a problem where there is no problem.
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The problem is not that the government doesn't have enough
time to find whether or not you've got an arrest
pending type of situation. You're waiting to go to trial
on another gun charge or a drug charge or something
like that. That is not actually a problem. But he's
making it seem as if it is a problem because
to your point, they would like to delay it forever.
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In other words, can we remove the Second Amendment because
they believe guns are dangerous, guns are bad. We don't
want guns, So we're going to try to put our
head in the sand and act like they're not already
hundreds of millions of guns out here, and that the
only people who are actually buying the guns are the people,
for the most part, who need protection from the bad
people who've already got the guns illegally.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, Unfortunately, the government proved and it's an ability to
find its asked with it's with two hands because it
could not find the Department of Justice could not find
the information they needed. Now, there are three states in
the link. I just went through the entire link. There
are three states that James Clyburn says, or Mark Kelly says,
now is America's standard three states. Ironically, Texas is in this, California,
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and Virginia where it says the dealer may not transfer
firearm unto a background check is complete. The rest of
the states give you like twenty or thirty days. But
the majority of states, no matter what Mark Kelly tells you,
the majority of states do not have a law that
allows the government to deny you the right to buy
a firearm except in Texas, strange, California, and Virginia. And look,
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if you want your state to make that a limitation, fine,
but you're not going to be able to get a
federal law. This should certainly not going to be able
to turn on the Second Amendment, or can do you Oh, yes,
you could if you put enough people in places of power.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Well, and this is one of those arguments that really
needs to be hashed out. I think I think that
people today need a healthy fear of their federal government.
The founding fathers had a healthy fear of federal government.
They wanted state government to be more in controls. Lately,
we've seen a lot of federal power grabbing happening, and
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we should be afraid of the federal government. And I
thought maybe I was wrong that during the COVID crackdowns,
a lot of Americans were reminded that the federal government,
when they seize power and they can just shut the
whole damn country down. We don't want that. And you know,
that's part of the reason for the Second Amendment. I mean,
the actual reason that the Second Amendment's there is so
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that if a federal officer is trying to enter your
home illegally, you can defend yourself before they seize your properties.
I understand that that's not something that people like to
talk about. They want to talk about it so I
can go hunting and all that sort of stuff on
the weekends, But no, it's actually because you're supposed to
be afraid of the federal officers.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, we often hear, even Barack Obama to the point
to the framework of the founders, the founding fathers. But
think about the mindset. The mindset of our founding fathers was,
we recognize what we're about to create. It's an opportunity
for a federal government to run rough shot over the citizens.
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Let's find ways to prevent that from happening. Now, it
seems that even in both parties, we are looking at
the framework and trying to find loopholes to find ways
to run rough shot over the citizens.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Well, I don't think that they were saying we're about
to create something. I think what they were saying is
history shows us every government, if it's a national government,
just takes the power from the people. It's always been
that way, it always will be that way. America was
considered a great experiment because no one had ever really
seen anything like this where the power was kind of
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levied out to the people. And we have been surrendering
that power now for generations.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yes, total mindset change in DC. And unfortunately enough sheep
who aren't paying attention. And big salute to people to
listen to this radio station and others, or if you
watch something other than the six point thirty offering of
the National News for at least trying to educate yourself
and what the hell is going on around here.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And as a Republican, I would love to see Mark
Kelly as your candidate for the Democrats because he's boring
as hell.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Hey, we're going to get in the swamp talk and
then death in South Carolina. It must end. Can we
outlaw death or can we.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Out that's coming up the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Jonathan Rush to my Republican colleagues who say I don't
want any undocumented people in this country.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I actually agree with you, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
So let's document every single one of them citizenship.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show, preferably before the midterms. That's
the difference between a Democrat socialist and the socialist. Bernie
Sanders was saying, don't say the quiet part out loud.
We know what the objective is. We're going to generate
more voters, which goes to the Tucker Carlson was the
first one because he was claimed he was a racist.
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It's not the replacement theory having to do with skin color,
it's replacement theory having to do with electorate availability of voters,
and that's what the that's what Bernie Sanders wants. He's
just smart enough not to come out and say it.
But the younger Democrats, they just that was a rookie
mistake for that House member. Now, one of the things
that we talked about earlier, and Kelly explained something that
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I had not had an opportunity to talk with a
individual contractor or a person in the middle class who
does this type of work. When they talk about how
the wages for middle class Americans have grown faster than
any of the point in American history since the first
Trump administration, a lot of that has to do with
the availability of workers. And in particular, we always think
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of construction workers and agriculture workers and the like, and
we always heard that Americans don't want to do these
jobs to begin with. This is how the Democrats tell
you they won't have anybody here to wipe your butt,
is what the woman said. I know there are a
lot of workers in healthcare that may in fact be
as insulted by that comment as I think they should be.
But Kelly had a great example of how this affects
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workers all across South Carolina and all across the country.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, you're going to go out there and pick those peaches.
Who's going to pick the peaches, Jonathan, Who's going to
go ahead and and paint the house for you? Who's
going to do the hard labor? It's not an American?
Or would it be. Right now, there's thirteen million Americans,
thirteen million working age Americans who have given up looking
for work. They are now receiving welfare. Thirteen million that
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we know we're actively looking in the last five years
and are no longer working, but are still in the
age demographic. Why are they not taking those jobs? By
the way, you look in Nebraska the meat plant packing
plant out in Nebraska that fired all their illegals and
announced we need new workers, there was a line a
half mile long of Americans looking to work there. My
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father in law is somebody who's known as a handyman.
That's what he does and has been doing it for
thirty forty years down in the North Augusta area, and
he's been talking about it for the last decade or so.
How he is getting underbid and underbid and underbid because
for a Mexican who doesn't live in America, who's not
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going to pay any income taxes, who's not going to
even stay here, They're just going to work here for
six seven months. They're going to send all that money
back home. They're all going to live in their van
or whatever for the time being. They'll come in and
they'll build a fence or they'll repair something as best
they can, and they'll do it for a fraction of
what he would do. So things that he used to
charge five hundred dollars for, he's now offering for like
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two fifty, and he's barely making anything off of it.
And he's barely getting any work even at the two
to fifty price point because the Mexicans will do it
for two hundred. So suddenly, with those people leaving, he'll
be able to go back up to his five hundred
dollars charge and make two hundred and fifty dollars, by
the way, for a full day's labor. I don't think
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that's too much to ask for somebody to come in
and do their do an incredible job for you, and
somebody who lives in the community, and somebody who's going
to be answerable to you, unlike these people who are
illegal aliens. So yes, the blue collar workforce has seen
their wage increase by one point seven per sent just
since Trump took inauguration and we started seeing illegals flee
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the country before he'd even been sworn in.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, we certainly the Democrats certainly didn't turn a blind eye,
and they did more than just turn a blind eye.
They opened the border rough for everybody, so they could
get all these people here, and estimations are wildly varied,
from twelve to twenty million, so that the Republicans could
turn around and deport them back to their country of origin.
We busted our butts to get them across that border.
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We're not going to let them go back, even if
we had to fight for people that we know are murderers,
and we're not going to send them back to Venezuela.
Look what you're doing, not even giving them due process.
You know, at three thousand arrests per day, which is
the goal for the Trump administration, it still takes you
twenty one years to get that many people back out
of the country to their country of origin. So the
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Democrats are going to have plenty of time, and they
know this. It was a long game for them. You
got to give them credit for this if they can
somehow win the midterms and think, for God's sake, when
when the Oval Office back in twenty twenty eight, look
at all the people that will still be here because
of the demand for the due process, that they will
be able to make citizens overnight.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And you know, I'm watching this video that you can
find on YouTube or other social media platforms of Milton Friedman.
Is the man's name or was the man's name, And
he was giving a speech about immigration and why it
was a free and open country and why that was
a great idea until nineteen fourteen. Everything changed in nineteen
(27:33):
fourteen in the United States and we started setting up
immigration laws. Why did we change our laws and why
was it such a great idea previously and it's now
a horrific idea today because that's a lot of liberals
will throw that in your face. Your family's from Scotland
or whatever they way. They didn't have that to even
go through Ellis Island back in those days. Okay, the
(27:56):
difference was if you got to America somehow, you here,
good for you, now do something because there ain't no
handouts starting in nineteen fourteen we started providing for people. Previously,
if you got to America, you had to provide everything
for yourself, everything, food, medicine, medical treatment. You better damn
(28:22):
learn how to speak English, because that's what everybody's talking
over there. Everybody acclimated to the United States after nineteen
fourteen when we started providing a we'll call it a
social net, some sort of safety net for people. And
of course that expanded in the thirties and expanded in
the fifties, and it expanded in the seventies. We keep
expanding that safety net for people. Now we're at the
(28:44):
point where if you get here free food, free phone,
free internet, free whatever, well, we can't do that. It's
too big of an attraction and it's too costly for
the American people, for.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
The people who always get outraised by the fact that
the imperialist government that they claim that we have. And
in the history of America, I realized you can warp
the definition of imperialists, and for Democrats, they rewrite the
definition of words anyway. But nonetheless, this imperialist form of government,
if you were truly if you truly felt that way,
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but you wanted to make sure everybody could come here.
You would actually encourage the United States government to become
an imperialist form of government, because if we're the only
people that can buse a constitution that brings freedom to people,
then you should want that export of it in any way,
shape or form that you could get.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yes, you're correct about that, and you know we'll touch
on it briefly. I don't think that most Americans want
any longer. Maybe in the past we did want to
see regime changes. I think we're you know, anybody you're
talking to, for the most part, does not want quote
unquote regime change in Iran unless it comes from the
Iranian people. We'll deal with whatever they come up with.
(29:57):
But the whole shaw of Iran thing taught us a
less and I think we've seen it in a bunch
of other countries. Some people would point right to Zelenski
and say he got propped up. We don't need to
do anything with imperial changing.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And in speaking of regime changes, you know it was
already announced earlier this week on MSNBC. It's a foregone
conclusion when Trump was sworn in. We could have told
you back in January when he was sworn in that
this entire problem with Iran was going to raise its
ugly head, that he would not be able to bring
peace to Russia and the Ukraine. These are all problems
(30:30):
that you voted for. This is the crisis around the
globe that Republicans of MAGA voters wanted. So why are
you surprised?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Was it because Joe Biden gave billions of dollars Tyranne
and then he also gave billions of dollars to Russia
and to the Ukrainians. Joe Biden was funding this war.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Barack Obama couldn't buy all the favors that he wanted
with one point seven billion. How much would it take?
Look at hindsight, Barak, how much would it take to
buy the peace that you wanted just with the Iranian deal?
I don't know. I don't think he can answer that question.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
No, I'm praying with the deal right now that's on
the table. They've got what are we on? Day twelve?
Now we got twelve days left. You better hurry up
and pick up the phone and talk to Donald J.
Trump and cut yourself a deal Iran.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
So you're saying, we've got two more Trump Taco tuesdays,
is that.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
One way of looking at it?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Now, Okay, now I got the Jonathan and Kelly Show,
Jonathan Rush.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Regarding the presence of ice in our neighborhood schools court.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
This is unacceptable and fundamentally contradicts the values that we
hold as a sanctuary city.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Kelly Nash.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Biden allowed twenty one million people to come into our country.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Most of those people are in the cities, all Democrat
run cities, and they think they're going to use them
to vote. It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I don't even know what's on the schedule of the
day for Los Angeles or otherwise in California. We still
do in the No Kings rallies that go on all summer. Now,
is that the summer of love? Summer of No Kings?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I don't know that Karen Bass knows. I think that
she thought she had a grasp on what was happening,
But no, you have no control of those people.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
All right, Before we get out of here today, we
get to talk about what's going to be a continuing conversation.
I guess as long as we have a death row,
as long as we have the need to put people
to death because the law calls for them to be
put to death if they are found guilty and sentenced
to death in a court of law. But we have
the continuing battle now. It's going to be the ACOU
continue to say that the way that we put people
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to death is cruel and inhumane, and then that way
they're going to win the argument. They think in their
mind that you should never put anybody to death. Unfortunately,
that well, unfortunately we got to put up with a conversation.
But now we have to go through this again because
we always have the autopsy after the death, which always
kind of fascinated me to begin with. You had eyewitnesses
(32:49):
there when you electric cuted it in back when we
use the electric chair, but we still did an autopsy
to determine the cause of death. Didn't we have eyewitnesses
as to what happened here? Why don't we have to
waste time with an autopsy? But nonetheless, because we do
that now and we use the drugs, which is the
most humane way I would think possible, won't we described that.
I'm sure you've had conversations about it. When you're unconscious,
(33:12):
you have no idea what's going on. Wouldn't that be
the most humane way? You're just gonna fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Well, last weekend it was a find out time for
Steven Stenko, and Steven Stenko murdered his girlfriend in front
of the uh the girlfriend's teenage daughter, and then he
proceeded to rape the teenage daughter and strangled her and
knocked her out and then cut her throat and thought
(33:37):
she was dead. Unfortunately for old Steve, she was able
to come to and was not dead, and then told
police all about what happened, and that's how Steven Stenko
ended up on death row. So find out time came
last Friday, and he had wanted He said that I
wanted to choose the firing squad. But after looking at
(34:00):
the autopsy of the last guy, we had three bullets,
and I like the way they phrased this, nearly missed
the man's heart. Nearly all three hit the man's heart,
but they nearly missed. And so then you get the
description of how the man died, which was that he
was twitching and all this other stuff for like a
(34:21):
number of minutes. We talked to Sheriff leon Lot about it,
and he said these people were saying that they missed
the heart, because that was the initial report, was they
missed and then he like bled out or something. He
was it's total bs. You're going to find out eventually,
and sure enough, he was right. It was total bs.
They did hit his heart. All three bullets hit the heart,
and it's just the involuntary reaction of the body. That
(34:42):
guy was dead, but his body was still moving. So
this guy decided, I'm going to go the drug route.
Very nervous because we've heard I guess people have drowned
all kinds of issues. But to your point, Jonathan, when
you're under the drugs, you don't know what's happening. They
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do surgeries where they literally take the top off of
your head and you're awake, but the drugs make it
say you don't feel it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I got called out by someone who did not like
the way that I presented it on the air because
they said I was mocking the man's death.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I'm not mocking the man's death. But if you'd like
to defend why he shouldn't, I go right ahead. You've
already heard the description of what he did, so you
want to defend that, that's okay. My point was is
that you literally, once you're unconscious, we could in fact
give you the drug you're unconscious, we could shoot you
and miss your heart. Okay, we're gonna we definitely just
(35:37):
want you to bleed out. Still not gonna feel it.
Then we could we use the other drugs that they
say corrodes your major arteries. Okay, you're not gonna feel that.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Okay, are you giving me a cholesterol problem?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Then we could actually put you in the electric chair,
mount you in the back of a pickup truck and
drive you in a parade down Main Street and drive
you all the way across the bridge in the election
in the county. You're still not going to know what's happening.
You're unconscious. Now, I realize, And I'm not at all
saying we should have public executions where we drive them
in a parade and we have ticker tape and the
(36:11):
kids show up, we throw candy to him. I'm not
saying all that. I'm just saying that you're unconscious. It
does not matter. After the first ten. So you go
in for a surgery, and we have all been there,
they tell you to count backwards from ten. I never
remember saying the word seven. So I'm out.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
The media is going to continue to push for the
ending of the executions, and so that's why you get
reporting like this from the posting courier. Steven's final words
where we are not the sum of one moment in time,
including he wants you to know that when he was
a child, he saved another child's life from drowning. And
you're not recognizing that, You're just you just continuing to
(36:50):
fixate on the fact that he murdered his girlfriend and
then raped her fifteen year old daughter don and merles
inlet and then slid her throat. You focus on that
like that's the sum of his life. And then the
media witnesses, this is unbelievable that they would put this
into story. The media witnesses said that they saw a
single tear fall from Stenko's left eye just before the
(37:12):
lethal injection. I imagine the Indian who was crying as
he saw the littering back in the day, Remember that
eagle eye, Cody, Yeah, get we get that moment where
Steven Stenko this is find out time. Pal. I'm glad,
you're sorry that you're gonna die.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Oh, I guess the conversation will continue because guess what
we've got like thirty people on death row that have
been on death row who probably would die of old
age because it takes that long at the State of
South Carolina for their appeals to finally run out. Is
that cruel and unusual that we would hold them in
prison until they die of natural causes? Oh, now here's
the part of the conversation the a CEO has never
(37:49):
brought to the table.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Stenko, A little crime spree didn't just end with the
slitting of the fifteen year old girl's throat. He then
drove twenty five miles to a farmer's house in Conway
and murdered the seventy four year old farmer and then
stole his pickup truck. So this guy, I mean, this
guy's killed three people in two days and had at
(38:10):
least one rape. I didn't realize this had happened either.
He was apprehended at a shopping center in Augusta wearing
a suit and tie. He had been trying to blend
in with the thousands of tourists for the Masters. The
guy went to the Masters.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
If you make in the argument for the CEOU, what
would you say about all that you should be happy
you have an opportunity to share a permitted cheese sandwich
at the Masters while talking to a man who's accomplished
so much in a little time.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Could we poison a pimento cheese sandwich and let him
eat that. That's a death by choice.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
If you want that at his last meal. Hey, look,
we gotta get enough of this. What this conversation is
never gonna answer. We'll have plenty of time to pick
it up in an upcoming show. Okay, we ran out
of time for the day.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Is the first weekend of summer. Get out and have
a big time.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Enjoy.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Here's the thought.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Bye bye, all right for me?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Oh god, everybody.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show w voc
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, we've seen real wages for hourly workers, non
supervisory workers rise almost two percent in the first.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Five months, Kelly Nash, Joe Biden opened the border and
it was flooded. The Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
South Carolina's own Scott Bessett, Treasury Secretary, pointing out some
great news for Americans coast to coast.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And you can directly link that great news to the
deportations of illegals.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You shared something the other day in the podcast we
won't get into maybe in segment three having to do
with the Trump administration and how that exactly is playing out.
That wages are going up.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Isn't that great?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yes? Also this week, James Clyburn's already holding auditions. I
guess he's getting ready for the big twenty twenty eight
presidential run.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Do you think if I went down and shined hissues enough,
I could be the next president?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't know. Oh, and we've got comedy and death
in South Carolina. Well that's the way I presented it.
Maybe all overstated it. Maybe I'm just trying to make
something out of this that it's not.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Look, you've got to be careful when you're killing someone.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That's very true. We'll take that up before this program ends,
you know. But the other day we had an opportunity
to speak to our Lieutenant governor about several things having
to do with the General Assembly wrapping up at session,
moving into the next year, and also some of the
legislation that was passed. We'll touch on that coming up here.
I'll tell you what. Let's kick it off with this.
Good morning, Lieutenant Governor.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Good morning, my friends. How have you guys been. It
always seems like a lifetime since we talked. We have
to get together a couple times a month. I feel
it too much happened.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, you've covered so much ground since we talked to
you last. You've got to be the busiest lieutenant governor
of the country. You've been all over the place talking
to more businesses and talking to community leaders.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
That's been the big thing. We can't help people unless
we're out there with the people, listening and talking. I've
always felt like government works baut when it's out and
about and listening to what businesses have to say and
what our citizens have to say. And we've got to
be solving their problem.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
What kind of solutions did you get from Kid Rock
down at the country.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
So it was interesting. We talked a lot about our president.
I congratulated him on his new Detroit Cowboy bar that
opened up in Nashville, and if you have listeners that
were out there at the Carolina Country Music Festival again
another great showing of celebrities here in South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And certainly I think the man that can bring together
DJT and Bill Maher we almost need to send into
the Middle East.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
He was so funny because I said to him, I said,
that was quite a feat bringing Bill Maher to the
White House. And he said, oh, man, let me tell
you I had. It was a little nervous. He goes,
that's why I bought Dana White with me. But it
all turned out well and it was a good thing.
And I did tell him that. I said, you know,
it's easier to criticize people that you don't know. I
(02:50):
think once you see people face to face and you
shake their hand, you strip away all those missconceived notions
about them. It makes them real to you. I mean,
you can still criticize, but it's hard to just go
out and be just plan old insulting.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I want to ask you specifically about something that popped
up in the paper today, but this is just a
continuation of a story that we've been talking about now
for more than a year and what our energy needs
will be in the state of South Carolina. We've seen
in the newspaper pushback locally from different counties about solar
farms and the like. But there's a new article today
(03:24):
in the paper and a bill that was signed by
government master, the South Carolina Energy Security Act, And I
know that there's got to be a lot of benefit
to the downside that I think a lot of South
Carolinians will read into this, and it seems like we're
doing an end around the PSC and we'll make it
easier for energy companies to raise rates.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
I pay electric bills just like everybody else do. I
wish electricity was free, absolutely, so. There was a lot
of talks. Every time we have an increase, the increases
seem to be so much, which gets everybody's attention because
they have to wait so long. Right, you can't have
incremental increases, which a lot of people have said anytime
they get an increase. I wish we could have done
this in two steps instead of getting hit with it
(04:05):
all at once. So that was addressing some concerns from
the other side when you talk about rates. Now, the
benefits is that it opens up the door for the
resurrection of VC Summer, which you know, I'm just wrapping
up a Lieutenant governor's a Republican Lieutenant Governor's conference on
my way back to South Carolina today, and my colleagues
(04:26):
are going, Man, you guys aren't a great position. The
fact that we passed a bill that basically was cutting
red tape. You know, everybody talks about, you know, the
bureaucracy of getting projects through and when you talk to businesses,
and as you said, I'm not talking to businesses all
the time, and that is the biggest thing to them
when they can't get permitting through quick. This all adds
(04:46):
to the cost of any project. And if you're providing
a service and your project costs go up, guess what
the price of those things go up. And so President
Trump has said that on the federal level, you know,
we need to cut through the red tape and the
bureaue or see of permitting so that businesses can do
their business. That's part of this bill. Basically, if an
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energy company goes to any department that any permitting from
and it doesn't get approved or denied within six months,
it's an automatic approval. So that's going to work on efficiency,
which we've all been talking about, right, and we have
to keep things moving along. Another huge positive is that
it's going to convert one of our pull fire plans
(05:27):
into natural gas, and that's going to really help the
grand stand. The PD Dominion and Santie Cooper are going
to be partnering on that. So I think we're in
a really good We're in a really good spot for
becoming energy independent, and let's not keep our eye off
the prize. We see what's happening in the world. President
(05:47):
Trump has been very clear that energy security is national security.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
We're talking with our Lieutenant Governor panla Evitt and recently,
I guess you gave a speech down in as Myrtle Beach.
It says, because these are I guess where you some
of your main priorities moving forward for South Carolina, expanding
school vouchers, eliminating the state income tax, and it says
leveraging artificial intelligence to enhance government efficiency. And to your
(06:12):
point about energy, I just read a study from MIT
that says by the year twenty twenty eight, artificial intelligence
will require at least a twenty two percent increase in
the amount of electricity America currently produces. So we're going
to need a lot more electricity coming quickly.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Well, think about everything we run in our own home.
How much more electricity we use. We are, as consumers
utilizing a lot more. But you're right, big computer systems
that are doing the work that AI does. Look at
how much usage are data centers tach Lieutenant Governor Dieter
Henderson from Utah keV. Going back to the fact that
we have to have quality data centers here on our soil.
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That's going to require a lot of energy because those
two are national security. We don't want our data being
stored offshore somewhere. We want it right here where we
can protect it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know. One of the things I'm excited about it
with the school voucher program is seeing how many parents
are much more interested now in matching up their child
given their learning availabilities or the way that they learn best,
with schools that will help them excel, and then how
that propels them into a future. As we talked about
with the ais In corporation and one of the things
(07:25):
I'm excited about as well. And you talked about this,
and I wanted to hear if we get updates from
companies that are getting involved, not necessarily in the high school,
but even in the middle schools with helping not only
identify children who have that natural bend that they would
work in their genre of business, but also helping inspire
other kids by opening up the doors and showing them
the opportunities through a better education. We are you having
(07:49):
more conversations with CEOs about that particular outreach.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
If I was a conspiracy theorist, I think you were
listening to some of the meetings I was having with
some corporate people that were down here Rota, because that
was a huge topic. And amen to everything you said.
When parents feel like they have some control over their
children's learning, it's a game changer. And children who have
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parents that are involved have the best educational outcomes. Right,
we're setting them up for success. And so all those
things you said, I believe one hundred percent you're spot on,
and that's why I have been such a voice for
school choice. There are some colleges coastal Carolina or Georgetown
Tech have partnered up with a company called cloud Range,
(08:35):
and cloud Range comes in and does a lot of education.
They bring in the systems and the software to really
get students involved in cyber technology and cybersecurity and it's
a great resource. And they are partnering with Tri County
Tech or Georgetown Tech Coastal Carolina. So I was having
(08:57):
some meetings with them. I introduced them to them. I
thought it was a great program, so I made some introductions.
That's getting rolling here in South Carolina. But they have
a K through twelve program where they can come in
and work in our middle schools and in our high
schools getting kids ready. And so my question to them
(09:18):
during the meeting I had here at ROGA was do
you have a certification program, like an industry accredited certification
program that if your program came into our K through
twelve program and kids started getting excited in middle school
and then kept it going in high school, could they
come out with a work ready certification. And they said absolutely.
(09:41):
This is how I look at learning anymore. It needs
to be lifetime learning, not like we have viewed it
for so long. And you talk about our rural areas
and that kind of thing being a game changer because
kids coming out with that kind of certification at a
high school level, this was their assessment forty five thousand
dollars a year, maybe fifty that's just the high school
diploma and certifications. But let's think how that opens up
(10:04):
on a broader level. We have the most amazing technical
colleges in the country. You have a kid that maybe
doesn't think technical college or college in their future because
it never has been part of their family. Now they're
earning a living where their work can now possibly send
them to one of our amazing technical colleges to get
the next level. And as they keep improving their position
(10:27):
because they keep adding on to education, they can eventually
go to a four year college and they can work
their way through it. Because all of our kids need
to come out of K through twelve either being work ready,
military ready, or they need to be college ready. That
should be like the most basic of all of our
goals in education, and Ellen Weaver is really pushing for that,
(10:48):
and I'm very encouraged by what corporations are doing knowing
that there are some kids that will need to be
work ready before they can be two year four year
bound in their education.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I did have to edit that interview because she gives
us a lot of time. Thank you for the time
you spend with us on the phone. And you could
hear the entire interview with our lieutenant governor on our podcast.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yes, you can always look for the rash Thought podcast
on the I Hurt Radio app.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
And we'll contemplate more. Should Kelly actually ask for an
audience of James Clyburn because he is taking auditions.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
People are flying in from all over the country to
kiss his butt because you get to be the president apparently.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Next the Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Rush, when you become an immigrant, to think about, Okay,
I go to America because I'm going to use America
for the great opportunities that America has, Kelly Nash, then
you have to think about, Okay, if I get all
of those things from America, then I have to give
something back.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
You have a.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Responsibility as an immigrant to give back to America.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Jonathan and Kelly Show, we can take more lessons from
Arnold Schwarzenegger and talk about those in segment three. What
be Goldberg is just trolling America. It's Sally's wrapped around
our axles right now. I have to go home every
afternoon and colmer it down.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
You know what, if we are going to talk about
immigration in segment three, I will save my comments. But
Milton Friedman gave a speech in nineteen seventy eight that
I will be quoting from that. We'll just punch all
you ice people in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Excellent. All right. So now we've begun the auditions for
the twenty twenty eight presidential run because Mark Kelly flew
in too Charleston for James Clyburn. Well, they were there
because of Emmanual nine. And this has been a Look,
it's been one of those weeks in Charleston in particular,
and if you're in that area or from that area,
then you know it's the Emmanuel nine and also the
(12:41):
nine firefighters that were lost in that tragedy. So it's
been a lot of reflection going on in Charleston. And
we're not here to talk about the loophole, although I
would love to preach about it again.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean, shouldn't we because that's what Mark Kelly was
here for. Mark Kelly came in and said, if you
do not close the Charleston loophole, then we should expect
rampant deaths all across the country because the Charleston loophole
was designed specifically to get the guns into the hands
of murderers. That's why Charleston created the Charleston loophole.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I hope that he will say I have not heard
his comments, nor if I read a transcript, but I'm
hoping that he was able to make that case, because
that certainly would put him at the top five at
minimum for James Clyburn's list for presidential candidates. If you
can take a line of horse crap and deliver it
like that and do it so that the moderates and
(13:33):
the persons in the center would believe that to be true.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I mean, that's what Mark Kelly was presenting. This is
his quote. This should not be a partisan issue. If
you look at surveys across the people of South Carolina
and across the country. In South Carolina, eighty percent of
people believe in universal background checks before you buy a gun.
Across the country, it's over ninety percent, and yet we
still have the Charleston loophole.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I'm not going to argue with the fact that a
lot of people do agree with you should have background checks,
and I'm not saying they shouldn't be. I actually agree
that there should be. I'm all for that. But here's
the problem. They won't Agreeze the skids again on the
log flume to hell, because this is how you slide.
You get that quick slide into certain hell when you
allow the government to put themselves in a position where
(14:21):
they deny you a Second Amendment right, or any amendment,
or any constitutional right because of a government screw ups,
which is the origin of the Charleston loophole. The Department
of Justice inability to discern the difference between the Columbia
Law Enforcement Office and the West Columbia Police Law Enforcement Office.
(14:41):
If that department, the Department of Justice, doesn't even know
the difference between two law enforcement agencies, how can they
a possibly be treated or trusted to do a background
check and b how could they possibly be trusted to
do it in a timely manner, which is what the
loopholes all about. Take the time restrict ain'ts off of
it and give government an open ended, according to this article,
(15:05):
opportunity to tell you no by simply restraining your ability
to buy a firearm.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Okay, So the Charleston loophole, as explained by James Cliburn
and his followers. The argument goes as such that back
in twenty fifteen, Dylan Roof was able to buy a
gun because the government felt pressure to approve him within
three days, because that's the law. You have three days
to decide if he's worthy of buying a gun. And
they would not have sold them the gun had they
(15:32):
known that there was a drug charge against him. He
would have been ineligible to buy that gun. But because
they were rushed, they approved him. And then that's hence
that's called the Charleston loophole. That's what their argument is.
The reality of the situation is that he did get
a drug charge. He got it in Columbia. However, the
(15:53):
part of Columbia that he got it in is in
Lexington County. So when they looked, they saw Lexington County.
They never checked with Columbia. They just looked at the
Lexington County courts and they said there is no more
charge here, so they cleared him. They saw the charge,
but they said there's no court case, there's nothing happening.
It's been dismissed. So they approved him before three days.
(16:16):
You could have given them three hundred years and they
would have still come to the same conclusion that he
was going to get approved. As Jonathan points out, because
they did not know what they were doing.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
They couldn't even find the origin of the report because
how can he possibly use that. Well, then they go
onto this article to point out how many states now
have put pretty much unlimited the barriers on the Department
of Justice to decide whether you should have a gun
or not. But when you click on it and actually
read the story, there are several states here, for instance,
they decided to do what they want to do with
their own state, and I'm okay with that. I'm cool
(16:48):
with it. If the state of Arkansas wanted to extend
it to ten days as a waiting period and extend
the background check for thirty days, that seems a little
bit extreme for me. But you know something, let Arkansas
do Arkansas's things, Jonathan. We are now living in an era.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Of AI. But even before you got to AI, computer
records just about everything I know the federal government, we've
heard about there what is it the quarry or whatever
that they've got to hide their records in. So the
government employees, takes like a year to for them to retire, yeah, average,
But just about every municipality in America now is on computers,
(17:27):
and that's where all the files are kept. And when
you're specifically looking on a background check for somebody if
they've been arrested, it's going to be in a computer file.
And nowadays it's even easier than it was ten years
ago to find this information. James Clyburn has done a
masterful job of creating a problem where there is no problem.
(17:49):
The problem is not that the government doesn't have enough
time to find whether or not you've got an arrest
pending type of situation. You're waiting to go to trial
on another gun charge or a drug charge or something
like that. That is not actually a problem. But he's
making it seem as if it is a problem because
to your point, they would like to delay it forever.
(18:11):
In other words, can we remove the Second Amendment because
they believe guns are dangerous, guns are bad. We don't
want guns, So we're going to try to put our
head in the sand and act like they're not already
hundreds of millions of guns out here, and that the
only people who are actually buying the guns are the people,
for the most part, who need protection from the bad
people who've already got the guns illegally.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, Unfortunately, the government proved and it's an ability to
find its asked with it's with two hands because it
could not find the Department of Justice could not find
the information they needed. Now, there are three states in
the link. I just went through the entire link. There
are three states that James Clyburn says, or Mark Kelly says,
now is America's standard three states. Ironically, Texas is in this, California,
(18:54):
and Virginia where it says the dealer may not transfer
firearm unto a background check is complete. The rest of
the states give you like twenty or thirty days. But
the majority of states, no matter what Mark Kelly tells you,
the majority of states do not have a law that
allows the government to deny you the right to buy
a firearm except in Texas, strange, California, and Virginia. And look,
(19:18):
if you want your state to make that a limitation, fine,
but you're not going to be able to get a
federal law. This should certainly not going to be able
to turn on the Second Amendment, or can do you Oh, yes,
you could if you put enough people in places of power.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Well, and this is one of those arguments that really
needs to be hashed out. I think I think that
people today need a healthy fear of their federal government.
The founding fathers had a healthy fear of federal government.
They wanted state government to be more in controls. Lately,
we've seen a lot of federal power grabbing happening, and
(19:53):
we should be afraid of the federal government. And I
thought maybe I was wrong that during the COVID crackdowns,
a lot of Americans were reminded that the federal government,
when they seize power and they can just shut the
whole damn country down. We don't want that. And you know,
that's part of the reason for the Second Amendment. I mean,
the actual reason that the Second Amendment's there is so
(20:16):
that if a federal officer is trying to enter your
home illegally, you can defend yourself before they seize your properties.
I understand that that's not something that people like to
talk about. They want to talk about it so I
can go hunting and all that sort of stuff on
the weekends, But no, it's actually because you're supposed to
be afraid of the federal officers.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, we often hear, even Barack Obama to the point
to the framework of the founders, the founding fathers. But
think about the mindset. The mindset of our founding fathers was,
we recognize what we're about to create. It's an opportunity
for a federal government to run rough shot over the citizens.
(20:56):
Let's find ways to prevent that from happening. Now, it
seems that even in both parties, we are looking at
the framework and trying to find loopholes to find ways
to run rough shot over the citizens.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Well, I don't think that they were saying we're about
to create something. I think what they were saying is
history shows us every government, if it's a national government,
just takes the power from the people. It's always been
that way, it always will be that way. America was
considered a great experiment because no one had ever really
seen anything like this where the power was kind of
(21:29):
levied out to the people. And we have been surrendering
that power now for generations.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yes, total mindset change in DC. And unfortunately enough sheep
who aren't paying attention. And big salute to people to
listen to this radio station and others, or if you
watch something other than the six point thirty offering of
the National News for at least trying to educate yourself
and what the hell is going on around here.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And as a Republican, I would love to see Mark
Kelly as your candidate for the Democrats because he's boring
as hell.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Hey, we're going to get in the swamp talk and
then death in South Carolina. It must end. Can we
outlaw death or can we.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Out that's coming up the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Jonathan Rush to my Republican colleagues who say I don't
want any undocumented people in this country.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I actually agree with you, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
So let's document every single one of them citizenship.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show, preferably before the midterms. That's
the difference between a Democrat socialist and the socialist. Bernie
Sanders was saying, don't say the quiet part out loud.
We know what the objective is. We're going to generate
more voters, which goes to the Tucker Carlson was the
first one because he was claimed he was a racist.
(22:48):
It's not the replacement theory having to do with skin color,
it's replacement theory having to do with electorate availability of voters,
and that's what the that's what Bernie Sanders wants. He's
just smart enough not to come out and say it.
But the younger Democrats, they just that was a rookie
mistake for that House member. Now, one of the things
that we talked about earlier, and Kelly explained something that
(23:09):
I had not had an opportunity to talk with a
individual contractor or a person in the middle class who
does this type of work. When they talk about how
the wages for middle class Americans have grown faster than
any of the point in American history since the first
Trump administration, a lot of that has to do with
the availability of workers. And in particular, we always think
(23:30):
of construction workers and agriculture workers and the like, and
we always heard that Americans don't want to do these
jobs to begin with. This is how the Democrats tell
you they won't have anybody here to wipe your butt,
is what the woman said. I know there are a
lot of workers in healthcare that may in fact be
as insulted by that comment as I think they should be.
But Kelly had a great example of how this affects
(23:52):
workers all across South Carolina and all across the country.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, you're going to go out there and pick those peaches.
Who's going to pick the peaches, Jonathan, Who's going to
go ahead and and paint the house for you? Who's
going to do the hard labor? It's not an American?
Or would it be. Right now, there's thirteen million Americans,
thirteen million working age Americans who have given up looking
for work. They are now receiving welfare. Thirteen million that
(24:17):
we know we're actively looking in the last five years
and are no longer working, but are still in the
age demographic. Why are they not taking those jobs? By
the way, you look in Nebraska the meat plant packing
plant out in Nebraska that fired all their illegals and
announced we need new workers, there was a line a
half mile long of Americans looking to work there. My
(24:38):
father in law is somebody who's known as a handyman.
That's what he does and has been doing it for
thirty forty years down in the North Augusta area, and
he's been talking about it for the last decade or so.
How he is getting underbid and underbid and underbid because
for a Mexican who doesn't live in America, who's not
(24:59):
going to pay any income taxes, who's not going to
even stay here, They're just going to work here for
six seven months. They're going to send all that money
back home. They're all going to live in their van
or whatever for the time being. They'll come in and
they'll build a fence or they'll repair something as best
they can, and they'll do it for a fraction of
what he would do. So things that he used to
charge five hundred dollars for, he's now offering for like
(25:21):
two fifty, and he's barely making anything off of it.
And he's barely getting any work even at the two
to fifty price point because the Mexicans will do it
for two hundred. So suddenly, with those people leaving, he'll
be able to go back up to his five hundred
dollars charge and make two hundred and fifty dollars, by
the way, for a full day's labor. I don't think
(25:42):
that's too much to ask for somebody to come in
and do their do an incredible job for you, and
somebody who lives in the community, and somebody who's going
to be answerable to you, unlike these people who are
illegal aliens. So yes, the blue collar workforce has seen
their wage increase by one point seven per sent just
since Trump took inauguration and we started seeing illegals flee
(26:04):
the country before he'd even been sworn in.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, we certainly the Democrats certainly didn't turn a blind eye,
and they did more than just turn a blind eye.
They opened the border rough for everybody, so they could
get all these people here, and estimations are wildly varied,
from twelve to twenty million, so that the Republicans could
turn around and deport them back to their country of origin.
We busted our butts to get them across that border.
(26:29):
We're not going to let them go back, even if
we had to fight for people that we know are murderers,
and we're not going to send them back to Venezuela.
Look what you're doing, not even giving them due process.
You know, at three thousand arrests per day, which is
the goal for the Trump administration, it still takes you
twenty one years to get that many people back out
of the country to their country of origin. So the
(26:51):
Democrats are going to have plenty of time, and they
know this. It was a long game for them. You
got to give them credit for this if they can
somehow win the midterms and think, for God's sake, when
when the Oval Office back in twenty twenty eight, look
at all the people that will still be here because
of the demand for the due process, that they will
be able to make citizens overnight.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And you know, I'm watching this video that you can
find on YouTube or other social media platforms of Milton Friedman.
Is the man's name or was the man's name, And
he was giving a speech about immigration and why it
was a free and open country and why that was
a great idea until nineteen fourteen. Everything changed in nineteen
(27:33):
fourteen in the United States and we started setting up
immigration laws. Why did we change our laws and why
was it such a great idea previously and it's now
a horrific idea today because that's a lot of liberals
will throw that in your face. Your family's from Scotland
or whatever they way. They didn't have that to even
go through Ellis Island back in those days. Okay, the
(27:56):
difference was if you got to America somehow, you here,
good for you, now do something because there ain't no
handouts starting in nineteen fourteen we started providing for people. Previously,
if you got to America, you had to provide everything
for yourself, everything, food, medicine, medical treatment. You better damn
(28:22):
learn how to speak English, because that's what everybody's talking
over there. Everybody acclimated to the United States after nineteen
fourteen when we started providing a we'll call it a
social net, some sort of safety net for people. And
of course that expanded in the thirties and expanded in
the fifties, and it expanded in the seventies. We keep
expanding that safety net for people. Now we're at the
(28:44):
point where if you get here free food, free phone,
free internet, free whatever, well, we can't do that. It's
too big of an attraction and it's too costly for
the American people, for.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
The people who always get outraised by the fact that
the imperialist government that they claim that we have. And
in the history of America, I realized you can warp
the definition of imperialists, and for Democrats, they rewrite the
definition of words anyway. But nonetheless, this imperialist form of government,
if you were truly if you truly felt that way,
(29:19):
but you wanted to make sure everybody could come here.
You would actually encourage the United States government to become
an imperialist form of government, because if we're the only
people that can buse a constitution that brings freedom to people,
then you should want that export of it in any way,
shape or form that you could get.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yes, you're correct about that, and you know we'll touch
on it briefly. I don't think that most Americans want
any longer. Maybe in the past we did want to
see regime changes. I think we're you know, anybody you're
talking to, for the most part, does not want quote
unquote regime change in Iran unless it comes from the
Iranian people. We'll deal with whatever they come up with.
(29:57):
But the whole shaw of Iran thing taught us a
less and I think we've seen it in a bunch
of other countries. Some people would point right to Zelenski
and say he got propped up. We don't need to
do anything with imperial changing.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And in speaking of regime changes, you know it was
already announced earlier this week on MSNBC. It's a foregone
conclusion when Trump was sworn in. We could have told
you back in January when he was sworn in that
this entire problem with Iran was going to raise its
ugly head, that he would not be able to bring
peace to Russia and the Ukraine. These are all problems
(30:30):
that you voted for. This is the crisis around the
globe that Republicans of MAGA voters wanted. So why are
you surprised?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Was it because Joe Biden gave billions of dollars Tyranne
and then he also gave billions of dollars to Russia
and to the Ukrainians. Joe Biden was funding this war.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Barack Obama couldn't buy all the favors that he wanted
with one point seven billion. How much would it take?
Look at hindsight, Barak, how much would it take to
buy the peace that you wanted just with the Iranian deal?
I don't know. I don't think he can answer that question.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
No, I'm praying with the deal right now that's on
the table. They've got what are we on? Day twelve?
Now we got twelve days left. You better hurry up
and pick up the phone and talk to Donald J.
Trump and cut yourself a deal Iran.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
So you're saying, we've got two more Trump Taco tuesdays,
is that.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
One way of looking at it?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Now, Okay, now I got the Jonathan and Kelly Show,
Jonathan Rush.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Regarding the presence of ice in our neighborhood schools court.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
This is unacceptable and fundamentally contradicts the values that we
hold as a sanctuary city.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Kelly Nash.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Biden allowed twenty one million people to come into our country.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Most of those people are in the cities, all Democrat
run cities, and they think they're going to use them
to vote. It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I don't even know what's on the schedule of the
day for Los Angeles or otherwise in California. We still
do in the No Kings rallies that go on all summer. Now,
is that the summer of love? Summer of No Kings?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I don't know that Karen Bass knows. I think that
she thought she had a grasp on what was happening,
But no, you have no control of those people.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
All right, Before we get out of here today, we
get to talk about what's going to be a continuing conversation.
I guess as long as we have a death row,
as long as we have the need to put people
to death because the law calls for them to be
put to death if they are found guilty and sentenced
to death in a court of law. But we have
the continuing battle now. It's going to be the ACOU
continue to say that the way that we put people
(32:27):
to death is cruel and inhumane, and then that way
they're going to win the argument. They think in their
mind that you should never put anybody to death. Unfortunately,
that well, unfortunately we got to put up with a conversation.
But now we have to go through this again because
we always have the autopsy after the death, which always
kind of fascinated me to begin with. You had eyewitnesses
(32:49):
there when you electric cuted it in back when we
use the electric chair, but we still did an autopsy
to determine the cause of death. Didn't we have eyewitnesses
as to what happened here? Why don't we have to
waste time with an autopsy? But nonetheless, because we do
that now and we use the drugs, which is the
most humane way I would think possible, won't we described that.
I'm sure you've had conversations about it. When you're unconscious,
(33:12):
you have no idea what's going on. Wouldn't that be
the most humane way? You're just gonna fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Well, last weekend it was a find out time for
Steven Stenko, and Steven Stenko murdered his girlfriend in front
of the uh the girlfriend's teenage daughter, and then he
proceeded to rape the teenage daughter and strangled her and
knocked her out and then cut her throat and thought
(33:37):
she was dead. Unfortunately for old Steve, she was able
to come to and was not dead, and then told
police all about what happened, and that's how Steven Stenko
ended up on death row. So find out time came
last Friday, and he had wanted He said that I
wanted to choose the firing squad. But after looking at
(34:00):
the autopsy of the last guy, we had three bullets,
and I like the way they phrased this, nearly missed
the man's heart. Nearly all three hit the man's heart,
but they nearly missed. And so then you get the
description of how the man died, which was that he
was twitching and all this other stuff for like a
(34:21):
number of minutes. We talked to Sheriff leon Lot about it,
and he said these people were saying that they missed
the heart, because that was the initial report, was they
missed and then he like bled out or something. He
was it's total bs. You're going to find out eventually,
and sure enough, he was right. It was total bs.
They did hit his heart. All three bullets hit the heart,
and it's just the involuntary reaction of the body. That
(34:42):
guy was dead, but his body was still moving. So
this guy decided, I'm going to go the drug route.
Very nervous because we've heard I guess people have drowned
all kinds of issues. But to your point, Jonathan, when
you're under the drugs, you don't know what's happening. They
(35:03):
do surgeries where they literally take the top off of
your head and you're awake, but the drugs make it
say you don't feel it.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I got called out by someone who did not like
the way that I presented it on the air because
they said I was mocking the man's death.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I'm not mocking the man's death. But if you'd like
to defend why he shouldn't, I go right ahead. You've
already heard the description of what he did, so you
want to defend that, that's okay. My point was is
that you literally, once you're unconscious, we could in fact
give you the drug you're unconscious, we could shoot you
and miss your heart. Okay, we're gonna we definitely just
(35:37):
want you to bleed out. Still not gonna feel it.
Then we could we use the other drugs that they
say corrodes your major arteries. Okay, you're not gonna feel that.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Okay, are you giving me a cholesterol problem?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Then we could actually put you in the electric chair,
mount you in the back of a pickup truck and
drive you in a parade down Main Street and drive
you all the way across the bridge in the election
in the county. You're still not going to know what's happening.
You're unconscious. Now, I realize, And I'm not at all
saying we should have public executions where we drive them
in a parade and we have ticker tape and the
(36:11):
kids show up, we throw candy to him. I'm not
saying all that. I'm just saying that you're unconscious. It
does not matter. After the first ten. So you go
in for a surgery, and we have all been there,
they tell you to count backwards from ten. I never
remember saying the word seven. So I'm out.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
The media is going to continue to push for the
ending of the executions, and so that's why you get
reporting like this from the posting courier. Steven's final words
where we are not the sum of one moment in time,
including he wants you to know that when he was
a child, he saved another child's life from drowning. And
you're not recognizing that, You're just you just continuing to
(36:50):
fixate on the fact that he murdered his girlfriend and
then raped her fifteen year old daughter don and merles
inlet and then slid her throat. You focus on that
like that's the sum of his life. And then the
media witnesses, this is unbelievable that they would put this
into story. The media witnesses said that they saw a
single tear fall from Stenko's left eye just before the
(37:12):
lethal injection. I imagine the Indian who was crying as
he saw the littering back in the day, Remember that
eagle eye, Cody, Yeah, get we get that moment where
Steven Stenko this is find out time. Pal. I'm glad,
you're sorry that you're gonna die.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Oh, I guess the conversation will continue because guess what
we've got like thirty people on death row that have
been on death row who probably would die of old
age because it takes that long at the State of
South Carolina for their appeals to finally run out. Is
that cruel and unusual that we would hold them in
prison until they die of natural causes? Oh, now here's
the part of the conversation the a CEO has never
(37:49):
brought to the table.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Stenko, A little crime spree didn't just end with the
slitting of the fifteen year old girl's throat. He then
drove twenty five miles to a farmer's house in Conway
and murdered the seventy four year old farmer and then
stole his pickup truck. So this guy, I mean, this
guy's killed three people in two days and had at
(38:10):
least one rape. I didn't realize this had happened either.
He was apprehended at a shopping center in Augusta wearing
a suit and tie. He had been trying to blend
in with the thousands of tourists for the Masters. The
guy went to the Masters.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
If you make in the argument for the CEOU, what
would you say about all that you should be happy
you have an opportunity to share a permitted cheese sandwich
at the Masters while talking to a man who's accomplished
so much in a little time.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Could we poison a pimento cheese sandwich and let him
eat that. That's a death by choice.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
If you want that at his last meal. Hey, look,
we gotta get enough of this. What this conversation is
never gonna answer. We'll have plenty of time to pick
it up in an upcoming show. Okay, we ran out
of time for the day.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Is the first weekend of summer. Get out and have
a big time.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Enjoy.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Here's the thought.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Bye bye, all right for me?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Oh god, everybody.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
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