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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush like
two kids at the school yard.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You know, they fight like hell.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
You can't stap them. Let him fight for about two
three minutes.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Then it's easy to stab him. And then daddy has
said sometimes language school.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Ritter, the NATO chief, who is your friend? He called
you daddy earlier.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I think he likes me. If he doesn't, I'll let
you know. I'll come back and I'll hit him hard.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Okay, Jonathan and Kelly show WOC.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I know, when you take the entire context of the conversation,
there was obviously something lost in translation. But I like
the way Trump has positioned that, oh, he's fully accept
the title of daddy of the of the of NATO.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I heard Steve Bannon having a very serious discussion with
like thought leaders regarding that, and their point is that
Donald Trump is in a phase of life where he
is very paternal now, and they were making examples of
not only his own children, his own adult sons, but
also how he is treating certain like Mike Johnson. Mike
(01:08):
Johnson is now an adopted son of Donald Trump's. He
treats him like his son, not like when you say
a child. It's not like how you would treat a child.
You treat your child like so like John is whatever,
thirty five or whatever, he's engaged now to be married
and stuff. He's your child. That's how you treat John.
Is how Donald Trump is treating the leaders of the world.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The world and the leaders just by ringing the cash
register if nothing else. At the UN you made a response,
You made a commitment years ago that nobody's sailed you
accountable to until now.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
But think about it. He moved the needle from two percent.
He didn't just double it. It's at five percent now
and they're all signing up for it except for Spain.
And you know, they were talking about the deference that
even the reporters who will I'll tell you to, they'll
tell him to his face. They hate him, they hate
his guts, but they have a respect for Donald Trump
(02:07):
that they didn't have in his first administration because he's
done things that nobody could do.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Certainly nobody has done all right, So we can get
into some of that again later, but we've got two
big interviews to bring you today. First, the big news
of the state of South Carolina as we enter the
election season. The filing season is here. Let's go to
the double Secret Probationary hotline for this phone call. Kelly Nash,
(02:32):
Welcome on the phone. State Attorney General Alan Wilson, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Sir, Ita, Hey, good morning guys. It's great to be
with you.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Now. I understand you threw a big party with lots
of barbecue and a huge announcement at Hudson's in Lexington.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Oh, we did. It was amazing. We had over three
hundred and fifty people show up, sixteen news outlets for
covering this thing. There was a lot of energy, a
lot of excitement, a lot of support. I was really
thrilled with the event.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm wondering if the fire Marshal was aware of that
crowd because it seemed overwhet.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm not going to lie. It was a little nerve
wracking for me because I really thought we were going
to get kicked out of there. I do know this.
People were being kicked. There were people leaving because they
couldn't find a parking spot.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, it was crazy, man.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well as a piers, when we look at the advent
of the Trump administration, Now, when the wave of that,
the law and order and leadership go together, tell me
about what your vision is for the law and order
leadership of the state of South Carolina if Alan Wilson
were to become governor.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, first off, Johnson, thank you for the question. First Off,
this is something I've been thinking about for several months,
and after speaking with my family, you know, we made
the decision, you know, earlier this summer to go ahead
and give this a run. And the reason that I'm
running is first my priorities if I'm elective governor and
I believe that I will be, you know, first, I
want to doze South Carolina from top to bottom. I
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want to expose fraud, waste, and abuse at every level
of government, from school boards to municipalities, to county governments
to state governments. I want to utilize cutting edge AI
technologies with a beep up oversight over how our tax
dollars are being spent and how regulations and laws are
being enforced by local bureaucrats. I want to reform an
overhauler education system. I want children to be able to
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have access to reading, comprehension, and math at an earlier
age so that by the time they're in a third grade,
they're on the right trajectory for life and success. I
want to eliminate the state income tax. You know, there
are three states in the Southeast that have already done it,
another five states are moving to it. For South Carolina
to remain competitive, for South Carolina to continue to be
the beast of the Southeast, we've got to cut our
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income tax. I want to overhaul how we reform our regulations.
I want to get rid of a lot of these
regulations and how people are imposing regulations on small businesses
in other industries. These are just a couple of the
things that I'm going to be focusing on as your
next governor.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So we've got the Attorney General currently on the phone,
Alan Wilson, running for governor of South Carolina. And I'm
not going to go through the list of names that
are potential candidates. We've all heard most of their names
already being bandied about. Most of those seem to have
some sort of relationship with Donald Trump, yourself included. How
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much of an impact do you think Donald Trump is
going to play in the governor's race.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Look, I don't want to speak for Donald Trump. I
think anyone who wants to run for office in South
Carolina recognizes that Donald Trump is a transformational and a
once in a generation leader. He has delivered so much
for our state and for our country, and I think
any candidate running would want his endorsement and his support.
As for me, you know, I'm going to let the
President speak for himself. I've worked very closely with the President.
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I have pushed in America First agenda for the President.
I was with him in trial when he was having
lawfare weaponized against him. I've been to the White House
to support his agenda. But right now I'm focused on
what I'm going to deliver for South Carolina. And those
are just some of the things that we talked about
a moment ago. There are other candidates out there, There're
some good people running. Most of us are friends. But
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as for me, I'm going to be keeping mind campaign
about what Alan Wilson will do as governor for South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You know, from a Democrat or Republican perspective, South Carolina
is a hotspot for politics, so much so. I remember
Chuck Todd on NBC News saying, like a decade ago,
if he were a young reporter looking to make a
name for himself covering politics, he would immediately move to
the state of South Carolina. So, and we've already seen
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some of the fireworks and candidates who are yet to announce,
but we'll be I'm sure this could be a really, really,
really hard ball political race. So you do, you have
your armor on and you make sure you can take
the slings and the arrows.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Anything worth doing isn't going to be easy. And the
people who elect the next governor deserve a governor who's
capable of withithstanding the heat. You know, I mean, as
a twenty nine year veteran of the military and a
combat veteran who's served in combat, as someone who has
been in national politics and state politics now and has
been a leader and a recognized national leader, I've already
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demonstrated that I have the staying power and the ability
to lead under the harshest conditions. And again, the people
of the state deserve a governor who has tried and
tested and I'm that guy.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Talking with Alan Wilson, the current Attorney general running now
for governor of South Carolina. You're still a pretty young guy.
I think you just turned fifty one, but it's amazing.
If you go to your office, there's a photo of
you and Ronald Reagan together, which is mind blowing to me.
The thing that I'm wondering is I hear you saying
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most of us are friends. We do have some political disagreements,
But it sounds like you're going to try to respect
the Ronald Reagan eleventh Commandment about not speaking ill of
other Republicans. I don't imagine everyone's going to subscribe to
that philosophy. Any thoughts on how you're going to defend
yourself from ugly attacks.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, first off, you know, I always believe that when
you're putting yourself out there in the political world, you know,
you need to show to people what you're running for,
not who you're running against. Some people will choose the latter.
I'm going to choose the former. I'm going to run
for something. I'm going to have a positive message about
what we want to do with South Carolina. But that
does not mean that I won't defend myself. That does
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not mean that I won't defend my record. With that
being said, I believe my record is very strong. I
believe my record is very robust, and I believe that
people that attack it are going to have a hard
time convincing citizens in South Carolina who have elected me
and re elected me in four cycles. You know who.
I have stood up and basically gone on a job
interview every four years for the last four cycles. They're
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gonna have a hard time convincing the public that these
criticisms are true. So I've let my record stand on
the owne.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well, certainly there will be a lot of mud flung
before we even get close to any type or primary debate.
This is going to be an interesting ride and a
lot of news coverage as you are now the first
Republican in state Attorney General, Alan Wilson. Thank you for
your time.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Sir, You gentlemen, appreciate you and put.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
An incredible podcast. This is for the day back to back.
We also had an opportunity, well let me just go
to this line. Kelly Nash, welcome on the phone, South Carolina.
Wildly successful businessman. He's an author with a brand new book,
and you've got a whole bookshelf of books by now.
And once a senator, always a senator. Jim Dementt, Hey,
(09:16):
good morning.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Good morning, good morning to both of you. It's great
to be back with you, with the folks around the
Columbia area, and it's always good when I'm home South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Well, I know one of the things you were constantly
thinking about with your think tank friends, big thinkers, and
you are one the Big Beautiful Bill. And I've been
bumping into a lot of regular South Carolinians here on
Facebook who keep telling me everything that's in the Big
Beautiful Bill, which is hard to actually imagine since it
came out of the House and went to the conference.
But let's talk about some of the initiatives that you
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think are most important and more importantly, whether you think
it's going to actually clear the Senate.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, what would The main idea of the bill is
just to extend the current tax rates. We talk about
tax cuts and everything, but the fact is the current
tax rates expire at the end of this year and
taxes will go up on virtually everyone if they don't
pass this. So that's the primary thing that they're trying
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to get done here. And trub wants to add some
tax cuts to that, I know, tax on tips and
tax no tax on overtime, and some things that in
the tax area that will be very helpful. But Republicans
wanted to clean up some of the fraud and programs
like Medicaid, and the Democrats are acting like people are
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going to die if you do this. But during the
you know, several years back, the Medicaid was expanded by
states because the federal government was offering more money.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
To do it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
So a lot of people on Medicaid now are making
way too much money to get free health insurance, and
they're a lot of fraud in the sense that there
are illegals who have registered for it. Republicans are just
trying to clean that up, and of course Democrats are
crime foul and unfortunately, even some Republicans, like Susan Collins
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of Maine, the.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Word Republican and Susan Collins in the same sentence.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, it's a good question, but unfortunately that there are
Republicans who just see Medicaid as a flow of money
into their state. So whether it's fraud or whether too
many people are on it, and it does impact a
lot of rural healthcare in places like South Carolina because
most of the patients in rural South Carolina are their
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payment system is either Medicaid or Medicare, and so it
really does hurt the rural systems. If you take some
of that money out. But the fact is Medicaid is
public charity. It's it's not entitlement. People have not paid
for it, and there should people should who are making
you know, more than twice the poverty level should not
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be on free healthcare. So Republicans are trying to do
things like that, clean up some of the different programs,
and a lot of the things that Democrats are screaming
about are not in the bill or not necessarily in
the bill. They're just trying to scare people. But the
main thing, again gets back to keeping the current tax rates.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
We're talking with Jim Demnt from the Conservative Partnership Institute,
and as Jonathan mentioned, our former senator here in South Carolina,
and you mentioned losing support. Obviously with the Democrats, we're
trying to scare everybody in a couple of alleged Republicans,
but there's also people like Marjorie Taylor Green, who after
she voted to pass the bill, then said she discovered
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in the bill, which is ironic that she voted on
a bill that apparently she hadn't read, but she said
that there's a what she calls a poison pill inside
the big beautiful bill which prohibits states from regulating artificial
intelligence for the next ten years. I don't know why
that would be in there, but she says if they
don't fix that in the Senate when it comes back
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to the House, she's out.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I don't think she's going to go against Trump on this.
And the thing is a lot of states might just
like they did with cell phones and stuff, You've got
a kind of a patchwork of regulations. It makes it
hard to offer national services, and AI cannot be confined
to one state, and you know, states like California, you're
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going to do all kinds of weird things. So I
think there's a good it's a good idea to have
a short term prohibition on more government regulation. The problem
with things like AI and a lot of technology is
so sophisticated and moving so fast that government moves way
too slow and is not really smart enough to regulate.
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This makes it very difficult. I mean, I've said on
those committees in the House and the Senate, and the
fact is a lot of these people don't even know,
you know, how to text yet, and they're trying to
regulate artificial intelligence, and so it's so it's it's it's
it's difficult. It does need to have some type of
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regulation for national security purposes. But also, and it's one
of the things I mentioned in my book that I
wanted to talk about, that we do live in a
time of a lot of deception and artificial intelligence makes
it incredibly easy to deceive people and to make things
look real that aren't real. And so we're entering a
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very let's just say, interesting period, and somehow we need
to get a handle on the misuse of that. But
it's it should not start with every state having different regulations,
because you can't have worldwide system like the Internet that
are being regulated by different states.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, you referenced your book and true a lot of
people are getting headfaked by some AI stuff. Let's get
a grip on the truth. Let's talk about your new book.
And what's the title again?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
The title is what the Bible really says.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
What the Bible really says, And I like the subtitle
of it though, about Creation, end Times, politics and you's
a subtitle.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It's what the all Western civilization, particularly America, is based
on the concept of Biblical truth, that there is a
standard of truth for morality, for law, and unfortunately, the
Bible has really been discredited in all of our institutions,
and even a lot of church, mainstream Protestant churches don't
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consider the Bible actually God's word and the truth. And
while that may sound like just a religious issue, it
has very profound impact on politics in America. And so
what I've done, really I've been thinking about working on
this and researching it for more than fifteen years, is
just to go back and look at what the Bible
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really says about creation, because that is where a lot
of the discrediting has happened. Where science has shown this
world has been around millions of years, there were early
humans before they were modern humans, and the Bible suggests,
at least the traditional interpretation is that this whole universe
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was created less than ten thousand years ago and Adam
and Eve were the first people here. And that's not
what the Bible really sets. And what I did is
just break apart Genesis one and two and look at
that and give people a perspective based on what we
think we know now from credible science, of how the
Bible really aligns with that. And there's several things like
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the flood and other things and end time predictions that
if you really look at the Bible objectively that you
can show that it is absolute truth, and that has
big bearings on politics because one of the things I
get into, which even makes it messier that I'm challenging theologians,
is I'm challenging particularly progressive Democrats, which are the mara
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image of a lot of communists thought in our country.
And we see that creeping in now more and more,
even with the New York elections of this democrat who
is a socialist Democrat is actually a communist. But a
lot of the things progressive believe, like this leaving the
past behind, moving away from restrictive traditions and morality. A
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lot of this stuff is where communism begins. So that's
that's what a senator has to do with what the
Bible really says. You know, two things I want to
do is I want to make sure people understand the
Bible really is true and to know what it really says,
but then to talk about how that impact individuals and
how that impacts our political system. So I'd love for
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people to pre order it. It doesn't come out until September,
but the publishers kind of looking at initial interest to
see how many to print, and you know how much
to spend on the promotion. So if some of my
friends in South Carolina might go to Amazon and just
do a pre order.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
You can pre order on Amazon. It looks like you
can do it at Barnes Andnoble dot com as well.
There's several other websites. And like you said, September is
when it's coming out. And again, the name of the
book is what the Bible really says about creation, end
times politics, and you and am I to understand that
even though the book's not already out, there's already some
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people that are upset about it.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Well, I kind of attacked a lot of church leaders
for not defending the truth of the Bible, as well
as really going after the current Democrat Party, which doesn't
even resemble the traditional Democrat party. I grew up in
South Carolina where a lot of Democrats were more conservative
than Republicans. But now in Washington, I mean, it's just
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literally crazy. It's completely bill logical. And while I certainly
have had my criticisms of Republicans, in fact I did
more to try to replace some of them when I
was there, I think than anybody else. But the progressives
have taken over the Democrat Party. It no longer resembles
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anything that common sense could have anything to do with.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
As you look at Europe right now in the decay
of the Christian Church, not only in Europe but worldwide,
and how the Muslim community is not only taking over
the real estate but taking over the space. Are you
actually studying that or keeping an eye on that? Is
that on your radar at all? So we can use
that as a heads up America, this is what's coming.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
No, it is something I look at in the book.
But the false prophet that's talked about in Revelation is
likely the apostate Christian Church. I mean, a lot of
the mainstream denominations in America, you know, now have pastors
and church leaders that their mora is completely opposite from
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what the Bible says, and they endorsed this. But you
see that now Islam is growing and much more pervasive,
particularly throughout Europe. We're seeing that now kind of take
over in America, and so that's something we do have
to watch. I mean, you know, the prophet is Muhammond
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has said to have risen in the Old Temple site,
and so I mentioned a lot of this in the
book What the Bible really says, and so I'm getting
into that is something that I'm really watching. But you know,
we need to watch the big government systems in the world,
but also the religious systems because there's a lot of
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interplay talked about in Revelation between the false prophet, which
you see I think the Apostate Church, perhaps Islam all
combined with kind of false gods. But we'll see it'll
make a lot of people mad. I think that's what
I hope to do.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, whenever you have to question your own belief system,
and if you're willing to do that hard work of
questioning your own belief system, why do I believe what
I believe? And when I'm challenged on it, does my
theocracy or whatever does it hold up to the questioning
what the Bible really says from creation to the end
and why you need to know it? Now from Jim
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Dementt pre order it now. You mentioned earlier that the
Democrat Party has seemly to a lot of us, has
gone insane and it's nonsensical they're reasoning at this point.
That is why I say it seems it's not even
of this world. This is a spiritual battle, and the
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Democrats have surrendered to in my opinion, and I'll say it,
they're now being run by Satan.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I definitely get into that in the book, and I
point out that while there are a lot of wealthy
funders of this progressive movement, I mean in China has
a lot to do with that. The deceptions like climate
change and things, A lot of that's coming from China,
But a big part of what you see and the
Democrat Party today and really across the world, is not
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so much a conspiracy, although I do believe there are
a lot of people behind this and planning this. It's
really a default position. When you take away a biblical
truth and a belief and an eternal creator God, then
you leave a void that's always filled by that dark
spiritual force. And Satan is very involved with that. And
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people don't like to talk about it because it sounds crazy,
but the Bible is clear that Satan is the prince
of this world. He is very engaged. And one of
the things I point out in the book is the
reason we're all here is to fight this battle between
good and evil, and if we're not fighting it, then
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we're on the wrong side. And you can't fight for
the truth, and so we can't solve this politically. But
politics is definitely going to follow where we go with
the spiritual side of this. And you're exactly right. I mean,
it is a dark spiritual force that's driving the Democrat Party,
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some in the Republican Party, and certainly a lot of
the media, Hollywood or whatever. They have just leaving in
biblical truth, they have opened themselves up to be filled
with a very dark force.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, certainly you have fans and admirers of your previous
books outside of the state of South Carolina, but certainly
this is a hotbed since you have proven yourself in
more ways of one of being an incredible self North
Carolinian and a proud patriot. So I'm hoping that person's
listening to this podcast would take the opportunity, as you say,
to pre order, so your publisher would know that we've
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got a lot of interest in this book, and the
initial publishing will be widely abundant, and the promotion of
this book would also be propelled.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Oh good, I appreciate that. I appreciate you staying with
it so long. Speaking of truth to you, you talk
about it every morning thanks so much for having me
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush like
two kids at the school yard.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You know, they fight like hell.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
You can't stap them. Let him fight for about two
three minutes.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Then it's easy to stab him. And then daddy has
said sometimes language school.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Ritter, the NATO chief, who is your friend? He called
you daddy earlier.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I think he likes me. If he doesn't, I'll let
you know. I'll come back and I'll hit him hard.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Okay, Jonathan and Kelly show WOC.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I know, when you take the entire context of the conversation,
there was obviously something lost in translation. But I like
the way Trump has positioned that, oh, he's fully accept
the title of daddy of the of the of NATO.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I heard Steve Bannon having a very serious discussion with
like thought leaders regarding that, and their point is that
Donald Trump is in a phase of life where he
is very paternal now, and they were making examples of
not only his own children, his own adult sons, but
also how he is treating certain like Mike Johnson. Mike
(01:08):
Johnson is now an adopted son of Donald Trump's. He
treats him like his son, not like when you say
a child. It's not like how you would treat a child.
You treat your child like so like John is whatever,
thirty five or whatever, he's engaged now to be married
and stuff. He's your child. That's how you treat John.
Is how Donald Trump is treating the leaders of the world.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The world and the leaders just by ringing the cash
register if nothing else. At the UN you made a response,
You made a commitment years ago that nobody's sailed you
accountable to until now.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
But think about it. He moved the needle from two percent.
He didn't just double it. It's at five percent now
and they're all signing up for it except for Spain.
And you know, they were talking about the deference that
even the reporters who will I'll tell you to, they'll
tell him to his face. They hate him, they hate
his guts, but they have a respect for Donald Trump
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that they didn't have in his first administration because he's
done things that nobody could do.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Certainly nobody has done all right, So we can get
into some of that again later, but we've got two
big interviews to bring you today. First, the big news
of the state of South Carolina as we enter the
election season. The filing season is here. Let's go to
the double Secret Probationary hotline for this phone call. Kelly Nash,
(02:32):
Welcome on the phone. State Attorney General Alan Wilson, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Sir, Ita, Hey, good morning guys. It's great to be
with you.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Now. I understand you threw a big party with lots
of barbecue and a huge announcement at Hudson's in Lexington.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Oh, we did. It was amazing. We had over three
hundred and fifty people show up, sixteen news outlets for
covering this thing. There was a lot of energy, a
lot of excitement, a lot of support. I was really
thrilled with the event.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm wondering if the fire Marshal was aware of that
crowd because it seemed overwhet.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I'm not going to lie. It was a little nerve
wracking for me because I really thought we were going
to get kicked out of there. I do know this.
People were being kicked. There were people leaving because they
couldn't find a parking spot.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, it was crazy, man.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well as a piers, when we look at the advent
of the Trump administration, Now, when the wave of that,
the law and order and leadership go together, tell me
about what your vision is for the law and order
leadership of the state of South Carolina if Alan Wilson
were to become governor.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, first off, Johnson, thank you for the question. First Off,
this is something I've been thinking about for several months,
and after speaking with my family, you know, we made
the decision, you know, earlier this summer to go ahead
and give this a run. And the reason that I'm
running is first my priorities if I'm elective governor and
I believe that I will be, you know, first, I
want to doze South Carolina from top to bottom. I
(03:48):
want to expose fraud, waste, and abuse at every level
of government, from school boards to municipalities, to county governments
to state governments. I want to utilize cutting edge AI
technologies with a beep up oversight over how our tax
dollars are being spent and how regulations and laws are
being enforced by local bureaucrats. I want to reform an
overhauler education system. I want children to be able to
(04:11):
have access to reading, comprehension, and math at an earlier
age so that by the time they're in a third grade,
they're on the right trajectory for life and success. I
want to eliminate the state income tax. You know, there
are three states in the Southeast that have already done it,
another five states are moving to it. For South Carolina
to remain competitive, for South Carolina to continue to be
the beast of the Southeast, we've got to cut our
(04:34):
income tax. I want to overhaul how we reform our regulations.
I want to get rid of a lot of these
regulations and how people are imposing regulations on small businesses
in other industries. These are just a couple of the
things that I'm going to be focusing on as your
next governor.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So we've got the Attorney General currently on the phone,
Alan Wilson, running for governor of South Carolina. And I'm
not going to go through the list of names that
are potential candidates. We've all heard most of their names
already being bandied about. Most of those seem to have
some sort of relationship with Donald Trump, yourself included. How
(05:10):
much of an impact do you think Donald Trump is
going to play in the governor's race.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Look, I don't want to speak for Donald Trump. I
think anyone who wants to run for office in South
Carolina recognizes that Donald Trump is a transformational and a
once in a generation leader. He has delivered so much
for our state and for our country, and I think
any candidate running would want his endorsement and his support.
As for me, you know, I'm going to let the
President speak for himself. I've worked very closely with the President.
(05:36):
I have pushed in America First agenda for the President.
I was with him in trial when he was having
lawfare weaponized against him. I've been to the White House
to support his agenda. But right now I'm focused on
what I'm going to deliver for South Carolina. And those
are just some of the things that we talked about
a moment ago. There are other candidates out there, There're
some good people running. Most of us are friends. But
(05:57):
as for me, I'm going to be keeping mind campaign
about what Alan Wilson will do as governor for South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You know, from a Democrat or Republican perspective, South Carolina
is a hotspot for politics, so much so. I remember
Chuck Todd on NBC News saying, like a decade ago,
if he were a young reporter looking to make a
name for himself covering politics, he would immediately move to
the state of South Carolina. So, and we've already seen
(06:23):
some of the fireworks and candidates who are yet to announce,
but we'll be I'm sure this could be a really, really,
really hard ball political race. So you do, you have
your armor on and you make sure you can take
the slings and the arrows.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Anything worth doing isn't going to be easy. And the
people who elect the next governor deserve a governor who's
capable of withithstanding the heat. You know, I mean, as
a twenty nine year veteran of the military and a
combat veteran who's served in combat, as someone who has
been in national politics and state politics now and has
been a leader and a recognized national leader, I've already
(06:59):
demonstrated that I have the staying power and the ability
to lead under the harshest conditions. And again, the people
of the state deserve a governor who has tried and
tested and I'm that guy.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Talking with Alan Wilson, the current Attorney general running now
for governor of South Carolina. You're still a pretty young guy.
I think you just turned fifty one, but it's amazing.
If you go to your office, there's a photo of
you and Ronald Reagan together, which is mind blowing to me.
The thing that I'm wondering is I hear you saying
(07:29):
most of us are friends. We do have some political disagreements,
But it sounds like you're going to try to respect
the Ronald Reagan eleventh Commandment about not speaking ill of
other Republicans. I don't imagine everyone's going to subscribe to
that philosophy. Any thoughts on how you're going to defend
yourself from ugly attacks.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, first off, you know, I always believe that when
you're putting yourself out there in the political world, you know,
you need to show to people what you're running for,
not who you're running against. Some people will choose the latter.
I'm going to choose the former. I'm going to run
for something. I'm going to have a positive message about
what we want to do with South Carolina. But that
does not mean that I won't defend myself. That does
(08:09):
not mean that I won't defend my record. With that
being said, I believe my record is very strong. I
believe my record is very robust, and I believe that
people that attack it are going to have a hard
time convincing citizens in South Carolina who have elected me
and re elected me in four cycles. You know who.
I have stood up and basically gone on a job
interview every four years for the last four cycles. They're
(08:31):
gonna have a hard time convincing the public that these
criticisms are true. So I've let my record stand on
the owne.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well, certainly there will be a lot of mud flung
before we even get close to any type or primary debate.
This is going to be an interesting ride and a
lot of news coverage as you are now the first
Republican in state Attorney General, Alan Wilson. Thank you for
your time.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Sir, You gentlemen, appreciate you and put.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
An incredible podcast. This is for the day back to back.
We also had an opportunity, well let me just go
to this line. Kelly Nash, welcome on the phone, South Carolina.
Wildly successful businessman. He's an author with a brand new book,
and you've got a whole bookshelf of books by now.
And once a senator, always a senator. Jim Dementt, Hey,
(09:16):
good morning.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Good morning, good morning to both of you. It's great
to be back with you, with the folks around the
Columbia area, and it's always good when I'm home South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Well, I know one of the things you were constantly
thinking about with your think tank friends, big thinkers, and
you are one the Big Beautiful Bill. And I've been
bumping into a lot of regular South Carolinians here on
Facebook who keep telling me everything that's in the Big
Beautiful Bill, which is hard to actually imagine since it
came out of the House and went to the conference.
But let's talk about some of the initiatives that you
(09:49):
think are most important and more importantly, whether you think
it's going to actually clear the Senate.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, what would The main idea of the bill is
just to extend the current tax rates. We talk about
tax cuts and everything, but the fact is the current
tax rates expire at the end of this year and
taxes will go up on virtually everyone if they don't
pass this. So that's the primary thing that they're trying
(10:16):
to get done here. And trub wants to add some
tax cuts to that, I know, tax on tips and
tax no tax on overtime, and some things that in
the tax area that will be very helpful. But Republicans
wanted to clean up some of the fraud and programs
like Medicaid, and the Democrats are acting like people are
(10:39):
going to die if you do this. But during the
you know, several years back, the Medicaid was expanded by
states because the federal government was offering more money.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
To do it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
So a lot of people on Medicaid now are making
way too much money to get free health insurance, and
they're a lot of fraud in the sense that there
are illegals who have registered for it. Republicans are just
trying to clean that up, and of course Democrats are
crime foul and unfortunately, even some Republicans, like Susan Collins
(11:15):
of Maine, the.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Word Republican and Susan Collins in the same sentence.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, it's a good question, but unfortunately that there are
Republicans who just see Medicaid as a flow of money
into their state. So whether it's fraud or whether too
many people are on it, and it does impact a
lot of rural healthcare in places like South Carolina because
most of the patients in rural South Carolina are their
(11:46):
payment system is either Medicaid or Medicare, and so it
really does hurt the rural systems. If you take some
of that money out. But the fact is Medicaid is
public charity. It's it's not entitlement. People have not paid
for it, and there should people should who are making
you know, more than twice the poverty level should not
(12:08):
be on free healthcare. So Republicans are trying to do
things like that, clean up some of the different programs,
and a lot of the things that Democrats are screaming
about are not in the bill or not necessarily in
the bill. They're just trying to scare people. But the
main thing, again gets back to keeping the current tax rates.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
We're talking with Jim Demnt from the Conservative Partnership Institute,
and as Jonathan mentioned, our former senator here in South Carolina,
and you mentioned losing support. Obviously with the Democrats, we're
trying to scare everybody in a couple of alleged Republicans,
but there's also people like Marjorie Taylor Green, who after
she voted to pass the bill, then said she discovered
(12:52):
in the bill, which is ironic that she voted on
a bill that apparently she hadn't read, but she said
that there's a what she calls a poison pill inside
the big beautiful bill which prohibits states from regulating artificial
intelligence for the next ten years. I don't know why
that would be in there, but she says if they
don't fix that in the Senate when it comes back
(13:13):
to the House, she's out.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I don't think she's going to go against Trump on this.
And the thing is a lot of states might just
like they did with cell phones and stuff, You've got
a kind of a patchwork of regulations. It makes it
hard to offer national services, and AI cannot be confined
to one state, and you know, states like California, you're
(13:36):
going to do all kinds of weird things. So I
think there's a good it's a good idea to have
a short term prohibition on more government regulation. The problem
with things like AI and a lot of technology is
so sophisticated and moving so fast that government moves way
too slow and is not really smart enough to regulate.
(13:59):
This makes it very difficult. I mean, I've said on
those committees in the House and the Senate, and the
fact is a lot of these people don't even know,
you know, how to text yet, and they're trying to
regulate artificial intelligence, and so it's so it's it's it's
it's difficult. It does need to have some type of
(14:23):
regulation for national security purposes. But also, and it's one
of the things I mentioned in my book that I
wanted to talk about, that we do live in a
time of a lot of deception and artificial intelligence makes
it incredibly easy to deceive people and to make things
look real that aren't real. And so we're entering a
(14:45):
very let's just say, interesting period, and somehow we need
to get a handle on the misuse of that. But
it's it should not start with every state having different regulations,
because you can't have worldwide system like the Internet that
are being regulated by different states.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, you referenced your book and true a lot of
people are getting headfaked by some AI stuff. Let's get
a grip on the truth. Let's talk about your new book.
And what's the title again?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
The title is what the Bible really says.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
What the Bible really says, And I like the subtitle
of it though, about Creation, end Times, politics and you's
a subtitle.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It's what the all Western civilization, particularly America, is based
on the concept of Biblical truth, that there is a
standard of truth for morality, for law, and unfortunately, the
Bible has really been discredited in all of our institutions,
and even a lot of church, mainstream Protestant churches don't
(15:48):
consider the Bible actually God's word and the truth. And
while that may sound like just a religious issue, it
has very profound impact on politics in America. And so
what I've done, really I've been thinking about working on
this and researching it for more than fifteen years, is
just to go back and look at what the Bible
(16:09):
really says about creation, because that is where a lot
of the discrediting has happened. Where science has shown this
world has been around millions of years, there were early
humans before they were modern humans, and the Bible suggests,
at least the traditional interpretation is that this whole universe
(16:32):
was created less than ten thousand years ago and Adam
and Eve were the first people here. And that's not
what the Bible really sets. And what I did is
just break apart Genesis one and two and look at
that and give people a perspective based on what we
think we know now from credible science, of how the
Bible really aligns with that. And there's several things like
(16:54):
the flood and other things and end time predictions that
if you really look at the Bible objectively that you
can show that it is absolute truth, and that has
big bearings on politics because one of the things I
get into, which even makes it messier that I'm challenging theologians,
is I'm challenging particularly progressive Democrats, which are the mara
(17:19):
image of a lot of communists thought in our country.
And we see that creeping in now more and more,
even with the New York elections of this democrat who
is a socialist Democrat is actually a communist. But a
lot of the things progressive believe, like this leaving the
past behind, moving away from restrictive traditions and morality. A
(17:42):
lot of this stuff is where communism begins. So that's
that's what a senator has to do with what the
Bible really says. You know, two things I want to
do is I want to make sure people understand the
Bible really is true and to know what it really says,
but then to talk about how that impact individuals and
how that impacts our political system. So I'd love for
(18:05):
people to pre order it. It doesn't come out until September,
but the publishers kind of looking at initial interest to
see how many to print, and you know how much
to spend on the promotion. So if some of my
friends in South Carolina might go to Amazon and just
do a pre order.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
You can pre order on Amazon. It looks like you
can do it at Barnes Andnoble dot com as well.
There's several other websites. And like you said, September is
when it's coming out. And again, the name of the
book is what the Bible really says about creation, end
times politics, and you and am I to understand that
even though the book's not already out, there's already some
(18:44):
people that are upset about it.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Well, I kind of attacked a lot of church leaders
for not defending the truth of the Bible, as well
as really going after the current Democrat Party, which doesn't
even resemble the traditional Democrat party. I grew up in
South Carolina where a lot of Democrats were more conservative
than Republicans. But now in Washington, I mean, it's just
(19:07):
literally crazy. It's completely bill logical. And while I certainly
have had my criticisms of Republicans, in fact I did
more to try to replace some of them when I
was there, I think than anybody else. But the progressives
have taken over the Democrat Party. It no longer resembles
(19:28):
anything that common sense could have anything to do with.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
As you look at Europe right now in the decay
of the Christian Church, not only in Europe but worldwide,
and how the Muslim community is not only taking over
the real estate but taking over the space. Are you
actually studying that or keeping an eye on that? Is
that on your radar at all? So we can use
that as a heads up America, this is what's coming.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
No, it is something I look at in the book.
But the false prophet that's talked about in Revelation is
likely the apostate Christian Church. I mean, a lot of
the mainstream denominations in America, you know, now have pastors
and church leaders that their mora is completely opposite from
(20:13):
what the Bible says, and they endorsed this. But you
see that now Islam is growing and much more pervasive,
particularly throughout Europe. We're seeing that now kind of take
over in America, and so that's something we do have
to watch. I mean, you know, the prophet is Muhammond
(20:35):
has said to have risen in the Old Temple site,
and so I mentioned a lot of this in the
book What the Bible really says, and so I'm getting
into that is something that I'm really watching. But you know,
we need to watch the big government systems in the world,
but also the religious systems because there's a lot of
(20:56):
interplay talked about in Revelation between the false prophet, which
you see I think the Apostate Church, perhaps Islam all
combined with kind of false gods. But we'll see it'll
make a lot of people mad. I think that's what
I hope to do.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, whenever you have to question your own belief system,
and if you're willing to do that hard work of
questioning your own belief system, why do I believe what
I believe? And when I'm challenged on it, does my
theocracy or whatever does it hold up to the questioning
what the Bible really says from creation to the end
and why you need to know it? Now from Jim
(21:34):
Dementt pre order it now. You mentioned earlier that the
Democrat Party has seemly to a lot of us, has
gone insane and it's nonsensical they're reasoning at this point.
That is why I say it seems it's not even
of this world. This is a spiritual battle, and the
(21:55):
Democrats have surrendered to in my opinion, and I'll say it,
they're now being run by Satan.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
I definitely get into that in the book, and I
point out that while there are a lot of wealthy
funders of this progressive movement, I mean in China has
a lot to do with that. The deceptions like climate
change and things, A lot of that's coming from China,
But a big part of what you see and the
Democrat Party today and really across the world, is not
(22:25):
so much a conspiracy, although I do believe there are
a lot of people behind this and planning this. It's
really a default position. When you take away a biblical
truth and a belief and an eternal creator God, then
you leave a void that's always filled by that dark
spiritual force. And Satan is very involved with that. And
(22:49):
people don't like to talk about it because it sounds crazy,
but the Bible is clear that Satan is the prince
of this world. He is very engaged. And one of
the things I point out in the book is the
reason we're all here is to fight this battle between
good and evil, and if we're not fighting it, then
(23:10):
we're on the wrong side. And you can't fight for
the truth, and so we can't solve this politically. But
politics is definitely going to follow where we go with
the spiritual side of this. And you're exactly right. I mean,
it is a dark spiritual force that's driving the Democrat Party,
(23:32):
some in the Republican Party, and certainly a lot of
the media, Hollywood or whatever. They have just leaving in
biblical truth, they have opened themselves up to be filled
with a very dark force.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, certainly you have fans and admirers of your previous
books outside of the state of South Carolina, but certainly
this is a hotbed since you have proven yourself in
more ways of one of being an incredible self North
Carolinian and a proud patriot. So I'm hoping that person's
listening to this podcast would take the opportunity, as you say,
to pre order, so your publisher would know that we've
(24:08):
got a lot of interest in this book, and the
initial publishing will be widely abundant, and the promotion of
this book would also be propelled.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Oh good, I appreciate that. I appreciate you staying with
it so long. Speaking of truth to you, you talk
about it every morning thanks so much for having me
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