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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show. Jonathan Rush, President.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
This is the gavel we used to enact the Big
Beautiful Bill, and I want you to have that.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Kelly Nash, Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
And Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh what a big week it's been. It's been all
about gavels and gavins.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
In South Carolina.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Yeah. Hey, this is Jonathan.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Rush and this is Kelly Nash. Well, we were off.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Last week and we're back in the studio this week,
along with an opportunity to speak with Joe Wilson. Are
you us Congressman or one of them?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
We got some great guests coming up this week, don't we.
I think also exciting with doctor von Nessen being able
to break down the economy here in South Carolina specifically.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, those numbers came out just before the fourth of
July on Friday of last week. We had an opportunity
to speak with him Monday, and we we also had
a visit with our sheriff, Leon Lott. We also have
an update on one of the crimes that we speak
of in segment four. Not exactly a cold case.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
No, it's been solved since we recorded this interview. It's
been solved and the perpetrator has been apprehended.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
All right, you may have seen the video. Oh, we'll
talk about that. That's coming up. But we did have
an opportunity on Thursday to speak with our US Congressman
Joe Wilson.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
And good morning, and what a great morning it is.
It's been one week since the One Beautiful Bill passed. Indeed,
not a single child has had any food ripped from
their mouths. All of the accusations being made by the
Democrats have been revealed to be absolutely untrue. But what
it has done has reinforced the whole concept of Donald
Trump as a great leader for our country.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
This morning is I was walking down to my house
thinking about the things we were going to be able
to do.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Today, Kelly.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I thought about the fact that Joe Wilson was coming
to the studio. Okay, I laughed out loud as I
thought to myself, and I stopped in the middle of
my driveway and I yelled it as if I wanted
to wake up every neighbor.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
When I yelled, you lie.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Because if anybody needs to tell the Democrats you're lying,
Joe Wilson's the man that can tell them.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
And I'm very happy to point that out. Indeed, I
almost every day point out that there's inconsistencies and what
the Democrats were saying and what actually is occurring. Truly,
I've been vindicated. I would have never interrupted the President,
and in fact I apologize that evening to the White House,
except it was the issue of providing free health care
to illegal aliens. The President said twice that this was
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not going to occur. Now that is in the forefront
of the Democrat process. But now they're very proudly pointing
out it is so clear Elon Musk is correct everything
about the issue of illegal aliens coming to our country.
These are not immigrants, These are aliens. And that is
that their intent is to bring in enough people to
vote to create a one party, deep socialist state. That
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was their goal. They had a vision that it was
going to occur. It did not occur to them that
Donald Trump had the capabilities. And I give him credit.
And it's providential too. Okay, we'll be recognizing this week
on Sunday, the anniversary of the assassination attempt. And how
clear that it was providential that he turned his head
at the time he did. Equally providential that how incredible
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it was that the only site from which somebody had
a clear shot was not monitored. How inconceivable all of
this is except for one thing. Donald Trump is president.
He is achieving in six months more than the prior
president did in four years, and even better. The American
people are doing better. And then I've had the opportunity
to recently return for more saw Poland and Czech Republic
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the love and affection that I've seen for our president. Additionally,
I was with the NATO Parliamentary Assembly, and how incredible
to see the love and affection and appreciation that it
was Donald Trump who said, Hey, the way to stop
a war is to military deterrence and for all of
our allies to finally come on board and to provide
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two percent, now five percent of their gross domestic product
to defend themselves from the access of evil of Tehran,
Moscow and Beijing.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You know, we bring back the uli famous quote that
you had against Obama, and again we're using it to
talk about the Democrats, not what their policies are, but
how they lie about Republican policies. As we're recording this
on Thursday morning, we've got Gavin Newsom criss crossing south Carolina,
and he is telling people and Florence and Kershaw County
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and Pickens and all over the place that the big,
beautiful build is going to gut veterans' rights, destroy education
in America and it's all just to give a few people,
the billionaires, big tax breaks. What would you say to
Gavin Newsom if he was in the studio with this lime.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
I would say that that's a lie. The beneficiaries of
what we did last week and so clear for the
average family of four, the benefit is ten thousand dollars.
That's really very, very helpful any family. I know, it's
a car payment, house payment, you name it. The whole
thing is contrived and its power, and that is the
Democrats revel and power. And I'm really grateful Republicans want
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to devolve power. And I'm glad you mentioned education, and
we have people who are really incredible like German Angela
Nash of Risky District too, that we want to devolve
power back to local school districts. And that's why a
Secretary McMahon, isn't it wonderful? The part of education building
is a virtually vacant US department And what's going to
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happen is that the accusations that are so cheap and
tawdry that Trump wants to be dictator. No, he is
devolving power back to the people, particularly on education, is
the clearest one. But actually he wants to eliminate or
reduce FEMA. The tragedy that occurred in Texas should be handled,
as we saw, by the governor of Texas and by
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the local government officials who weren't they inspiring to what
they've had to face with the flooding at Kroville, And
it should be handled by local officials. And I remember
this sinkly as a staff judge advocate for the Onmi
National Guard, working with Governor Carrol Campbell, Republican, with Mayor
joe'illy of Chosen. With Hurricane Hugo, we didn't count on
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the federal government. It was handled by local government and
it should not be a federal issue. And so over
and over again, residential is devolving power back to where
it should be, with municipalities, with school districts, with erak
counties and states.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You mentioned Elon Musk earlier. One of the things that
Elon has been pretty adamant about is that, in his estimation,
we are losing to China when it comes to energy,
specifically in order to fuel the AI revolution. If by
his estimation, whoever wins that AI revolution over the next
five to ten years is actually going to control the world.
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China's gone all in on dams. They got a dam
that's so big it's actually slowed the rotation of the Earth.
Then he's saying solar energy. He says that America is
falling way behind China in that technology.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Indeed, the President has pushed for developing a small Minjor reactors,
and we have different companies that are developing this technology.
And how important this can be. It can be for
energy security. You could have at Fort Jackson that I'm
grateful to represent a small Manjori actor that would run
the entire facility and at the Savannah River site and
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then for back up, and you would have it at locations.
I can think of Hilton Head Island, I can think
of Guam, different military and island facilities that could be
energy independent with small Minjori actors. And so he has
said by twenty twenty seven that there should be a
small Manjor reactor and capability. And I just see that
as just so beneficial, And of course I love to
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point out that actually with the Savannah River site, we
have a three hundred and ten miles square mile facility
which is secure, which would be a wonderful place to
develop and build small MAJORI actors.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
There's this tower that they're trying to build in Damascus.
Now some people would think that this is a joke
or that this is just a trolled Democrats, but talk
to us a little bit about the importance of a
Trump tower in Damascus.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
Well, I'm really grateful. One of the greatest honors I've
had on the Foreign Affairs Committee last November was to
be identified and condemned by the dictatorship in Syria Basar
Alaside as an enemy of the state. And then three
weeks later he fled to Moscow. So I don't claim credit,
but I did my part, and then I was working
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with the Syrian opposition here in the United States. I
was also trying to get the attention of President Trump
that we have a real opportunity with the nude leader
Alhara to create an opportunity for Syria ultimately, and this
is now coming to fruition to possibly part of the
Abraham Accords. With Israel. But the bottom line is to
get the President's attention. I propose that there should be
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I dream one day that in a free and democratic
Damascus there would be a Trump Tower.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Well, out of the blue, a.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Billionaire in the United Arabates found out this proposal and
actually has a construction permit for a forty five story
Trump Tower. It's a beautiful rendering. It that I've shown
you of a beautiful forty five story skyscraper in downtown Damascus.
And I don't claim credit. I give credit to the
Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia and the President Erdigon of Tokyo.
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That indeed, just this week Syria has been delisted from
any sanctions as we're working with. These are former jihattists,
but they've changed, and I had the opportunity to explain
to the Israeli ambassador and he was quite skeptical. The
new government of Syria has changed and they are again
an indication of the success of Donald Trump that people now,
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and particularly with the bombing of the nuclear capabilities of Iran,
there's new respect around the world with our allies. First,
they now know that they can count on Donald Trump.
But the enemies of our country, war putin Komane g
Kim jong Un. Now finally realize we have a resident
who was working for peace through strength during his first term.
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There were no wars now under Biden where you had
such weakness and you actually capitulated and surrendered to Taliban
in Afghanistan. The consequence was we had wars all over
the world. And now President Trump is making every effort
to reduce conflict that would never be imagined between India
and Pakistan. Over and over again, he is doing his
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best to promote peace, true strength as promises made, promises kept.
That was the speech that I gave on the House
floor last week. Twice promises made, promises kept. And I
see his sticking up for Israel. I mean gosh, And
to be with Prime Minister Natan Yahoo is so exciting
to me because Israel has eliminated Amas truly on Hesbwellah
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and they're going after the Huthis.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
And then I have.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Faith in the people of Iran. It should not be
done from outside, but from within the country. The people
of Iran need to achieve regime change, because until the
head of the snake is defanked, we'll always have issues
here in our country and also around the world.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Congressman Joe Wilson, thank you, sir.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
And best wish to everyone, and again thank you for
talk radio and here at the anniversary of the attempted assassination.
I believe it was really providential that Donald Trump become
our president, and with that, the American people truly need
to come together, even my Democrat friends, and we do
work together much more often than it appears, particularly on
foreign affairs, and so I'm very encouraged for our country
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that indeed we've got a president making America great again.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
And we get to some more Washington Swamp talk coming
up here in segment three. Because there's a lot of
other things swirling around the DC area.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I'm imagining that that interview had to be edited somewhat
for playback here at this.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh there is yes only for I know he's listening,
so only because of the time restraints of this program.
You can hear the entire interview on our podcast.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
YEP, just look for the Rash Thought podcast. It's on
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Doctor Joey von Nessen breaks down some good news, mixed
bag bad news. He'll tell you for the state of
South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Next the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 7 (12:06):
Jathan Rush, what Ice is doing is an American it's
depriving people of their constitutional rights to do process.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Kelly Nash, one House Democrat, saying, quote, our own base
is telling us that what we're doing is not good enough.
There needs to be blood to grab the attention of
the press and the public to be more willing to
go out there and get shot when fighting back against
some of Trump's policies.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And Kelly show, maybe this week we'll find out if
we have true as the Democrats would call them, patriots,
people who would lay down their life. Remember if they
ask you the question, if you had to give up
your life to stop Hitler, would you in fact give
up your life? Because they're calling for the Democrats to
step in front of a bullet.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Specifically, what they want is some bloodshed, they said, that
will get the attention. If you get, like a Democrat
legislator shot, then the news will finally pay attention to
Donald Trump's fascist ways. Yes, the media is underreporting this.
They've been very much underreporting Donald Trump's the fascists.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
You try to get arrested, you try to get the
mug shot, couldn't get the mug shot. Now they want
you to get shot. If you truly want to stand
up and fight for the Democrats in this country.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Well and you'd get you'd get a you know, the
Cinderella sendoff. You'd have the you know, the horse drawn
carriages and all that. A hell of a funeral, all.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Right, we can get into more of that.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Come u up here in just a minute of the
segment three with Swamp Talk. Also, we'll tell you what
earlier this week on Monday, we had an opportunity to
kind of catch up a little bit, which is what
we're doing here about the economy and the state of
South Carolina. Kelly nash Well, come on the phone from
the University of South Carolina, Darla Moore, School of Business,
Doctor Joey von Nesse, Good morning, guys. The big numbers
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that came out nationwide. Everybody was reading about it. We
saw the alerts come across our phones about the jobs
report for June. Talk to us specifically first about some
of the things you saw on the national level that
you thought were most interesting. Because I know it's kind
of a mixed.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
Bag at a thirty thousand foot view, it is a
good report one hundred and forty seven thousand jobs created,
which is right in the sweet spot what we like
to see, so it points to a stable labor market overall.
But the bad news is that it's still a very
skewed market, meaning that most of the job growth is
coming from the services sector, not from the good sector.
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So the good sector is still struggling, and we can
talk about why that's the case, and the private sector
job growth was actually fairly low. Only about half of
the job gains came from the private sector, which is
a troubling sign if it continues, because it means that
we could be seeing a bit of a slowdown. So overall,
good news, stable growth, but some problems to be on
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the lookout for as we move into the second half
of the summer.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Doctor von Nesson on the phone with us from the
University of South Carolina. So I am confused because in
May they issued a report and then I was told
they actually had to revise the job's numbers up in
May it was actually better than they hit into diticipated,
and May was a pretty good number from what I remember.
June comes in far better than the had been expected.
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I think they were expecting around one hundred thousand, they
got one hundred and forty seven thousand, and then I
see ADP wants to come on out the people who
issue paychecks and say, not only did you not add
one hundred and forty seven thousand jobs, you actually lost
thirty three thousand jobs. We went the other way. What
do you think about that?
Speaker 7 (15:26):
For that second statistic that you quote, a lot of
these companies that are surveying privately, these companies to get
a separate sense of what the job market is doing.
They're only looking at the private sector, so they saw
a potential week job support from the private sector, and
that's not actually incompatible with what we saw from the
Buerau of labor statistics because the private sector employment again
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was only about half of the of that one hundred
and forty seven thousand numbers. So they are very different,
but directionally they are actually fairly similar in that they
point into a week or labor market. But you're right
that there is a lot of back and forth because
we do see these job numbers that are revised over time,
and that's because we get additional survey data to come in.
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So in order to in any type of survey, you
have a trade off. If you want numbers faster, you
can't get as detailed of a report. In other words,
you can't talk to as many people. So what you
see from the BLS is they get numbers as quickly
as they can, but they continue to survey and that's
why we see revisions down the road. The revisions are
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more accurate, but they because they survey more companies, but
it takes a bit longer for them to come in.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Let me ask a national question that may actually dovetail
into a South Carolina answer. When the Biden administration was
pumping the government with constant addition to a larger government
and more jobs, we all said to ourselves, if we
saw the jobs report, like fifty percent of the jobs
created about the government, this is not the way we
wanted to go. But in this particular case, now we're
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seeing that we are actually still adding the majority of
jobs inside government, although it may be state and local
now outside of the teachers, which obviously is going to
be a big influx of new hires. What else are
we saying that leads us to believe that we're not
still growing government larger than we should, even in the
face of the promises of the chop administration.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Well, it's not that we have seen an increase in
the jobs created by government. It's that the private selector
has slowed down. That's the challenge that we're seeing this year.
It's the percentage of the job creation that's really the problem. Previously,
if you look in the last several years and during
the Biden administration, you had a lot of government adjacent jobs.
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It wasn't necessarily the direct government jobs where the criticism
came from. It was also the fact that it was
government adjacent, meaning if you look at jobs like healthcare,
for example, where you have a lot of subsidies and
government assistants that supports healthcare. That has been a major
driver for growth nationally and in South Care for the
last several years, and in fact, healthcare has been the
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number one driver of growth in South Carolina in twenty
twenty three, twenty twenty four, and probably will be the
case this year as well.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Talking with doctor von Nessen, this is a question I
probably should know the answer to, and I was trying
to google it. Perhaps you know it off the top
of your head. So when I look at the jobs
and we're talking about how we don't want to see
as many government jobs as we want to see in
the private sector. Government jobs this I'm just reading for
this from CNBC government jobs all the largest month over
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month sector growth at seventy three thousand jobs from the
Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Are government jobs. Also people
enrolling in the military, because I know we've seen a
huge spike in military enrollment.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Yes, so when you're looking at government in this case,
we're looking at state and local. But overall, if you
look at federal, state and local employment, that will include military,
that includes education, that can include any type of state
office staff. There are a variety of government based jobs,
and we do see differences at the state level, and
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of course South Carolina has a larger military presence than
we see in most US states. So it really depends
on the month that we're looking at. But there are
a variety of or many public sectors from where this
employment growth where it can come from.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Given that we've all seen the overall numbers that the
private sector did not grow as much as anticipated. The
state of South Carolina, if it has a headline, what
would it be out of this report?
Speaker 7 (19:33):
The service sector is still driving our employment. That is
really the big takeaway nationally and locally in South Carolina,
the services sector has been growing about three times as
fast as the goods market. That's been true in general
throughout twenty twenty five, it's true in this latest report,
and that points to a very bifurcated market. It is
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good news and that it shows that we are continuing
to see spending on sectors like leisure and hospitality, which
suggests that consumers are willing to spend. In other words,
the lack of consumer confidence that we've seen this year
has not mitigated consumer spending too much, but it also
is a warning sign because if we put too many
eggs in one basket, so to speak, if most of
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our growth is coming from just a handful of sectors,
it puts us more at risk for a slowdown later on.
The other factor that's a challenge for South Carolina is
that manufacturing has not seen any growth in twenty twenty five.
It's been very flat or negative in most months. That's
another major driver of our long run growth in South Carolina.
So that's something to keep an eye on as well.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
You mentioned manufacturing for the month down seven thousand jobs nationally.
That ties the professional and business services also down seven
thousand jobs for the month. Trump had been promising to
bring manufacturing back to America. Is what we're seeing a
lagging indicator, meaning the policies that he's set into place,
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they're building factories like you know here we have a
new factory going up in Blythewood and everybody's excited about that.
But I mean throughout the state and throughout the country
we hear of these new manufacturing jobs that are coming.
They're just not here yet. It'll take a while for
these plants to open. Is that a possibility.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
And one of the problems with tariffs that makes them
so controversial is that the costs and the benefits associated
with tariffs are not synonymous because the costs typically show
up upfront in terms of higher prices for the consumer.
The benefits, to the extent that we see more investment
in the state or in the US, come down the
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road and can come several years down the road. And
part of what we're saying why the goods market has
been doing poorly in twenty twenty five is because we
have seen higher prices and uncertainty. And that's why when
you look at manufacturing and wholesale and retail trade and transportation, warehousing, logistics,
all of those goods sectors have seen fairly weak growth
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this year, and that's why because of that uncertainty. But again,
the risk there and the potential benefit comes down the road.
If we see more manufacturing investment, that ultimately leads to
a better and healthier manufacturing sector.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So if it's possible for an economist to put on
rose colored glasses, and I know you're so statistically driven,
that's typically not what you do. You're saying that when
we see more coverage of ribbon cutting celebrations than groundbreaking celebrations,
will be to get a better estimate on how well
we invested our tax benefits or the like to get
industries to move to the Palmetto state.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
That's exactly right, and that can take several years to materialize,
and so it takes a while to really see the
full impact of these tariffs, because again we economists talk
in terms of trade offs, and so with respect to tariffs,
you do see an increase in prices and that has
a short run impact. And then the question is do
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we see games down the road with additional investments, And
there time will tell and we'll see as we move forward,
what type of investments we see and the extent of
the job and income creation that creates for South Carolinian
and for the US as a whole.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well, America would love to see FED bring the interest rate.
Now we'll find out if that timetable is going to
be advanced with the better than expected June numbers as
anticipated by the Street and by the FED. Hopefully by
the time we talk to you again next month, you'll
have some good news for us on that front.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
Absolutely, it's looking more likely that we see FED rate
cuts in the fall as opposed to this summer. Two
rate cuts is the expectation before the end of the year.
I think that's probably accurate, assuming we don't see any
major change in the data.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Now, that interview was edited only slightly for the time
restraints of this program. Coming up in a few minutes,
we're going to delve deep into the swamp. We got
some swamp monsters surfacing.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Oh my guy, it never ends with the swamp. And
there's been some big developments here on Friday. As we
record this, we'll get into that and some of the
ugliness of the week.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Next it's an end Kelly Show.
Speaker 9 (24:03):
Rush is yes, we need to seek accountability here. Don't
jump to conclusions, but it's not surprising that if you
fire senior leadership who run the National Weather Service, you're
not going to get the best weather predictions, Kelly Nash.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
The fact that they slashed the National Weather Service, whether
or not.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
That was the direct approximate cause of those deaths, the
fact that we're having that conversation is the issue.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
The Jonathan and Kelly show.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Wow, it's so informative when you listen to the Democrats
tell you something. Wait a minute, none of that was true.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Look, I'm totally baffled. On Friday, Chuck Schumer and Dick
Durbin rolled out a new term on me called news deserts.
We've heard of food deserts. Yeah, now there's news deserts.
And apparently the vast majority of Americans now live in
a news desert where they don't have access to weather
information and like. For example, Dick Durbin, talking about his
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home state of Illinois, says there's forty counties in Illinois
that do not have access to the weather unless they
have NPR and PBS.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I don't know how many counties are in Illinois, but
forty counties have no radio, television, no internet, nothing.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
No carrier pigeons, no, no.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
They just sit out there and just wait to die
unless Burton Ernie can deliver the weather.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
And if Swallow Swalwell is correct, these people don't even
know the threat they're living under with Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
In charge, so scary, so scary.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Hey, Kelly just gave me an interesting stat This is
Friday morning when we record this program for Saturday broadcast.
This is really good news. And I've been waiting to
read more about this, but we haven't heard anything about it.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah. Trump, as he was leaving the White House this morning,
he told the media something you haven't reported on. Three
hundred thousand migrant children went missing under Biden, and we've
already gotten back ten thousand. We have a plan that
got most of them back soon. So that's a great point.
Three hundred thousand children and went missing under Biden, and
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you never heard people talking about it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Could be tragic what happened to some of these kids.
We know, but some of them could have gone back
to their home, if you want.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
To hold best case scenario.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, they went home, they made it home, and will
never actually find out all of them I'm sure because
of the way the border was so poorous people were
coming and going all the time.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
But you know, look at the story. So Thursday night,
if you were on social media, you might have seen
the video start trending. Gavin Newsom was one of the
people who posted the video Thursday night. When he posted
the video, he said, quote kids running from teargas, crying
because their mother was just taken from a strawberry field.
Trump calls me newscum, but he's the real scum. Okay, Now,
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this was updated by Rodney Scott, who, in case you're wondering,
Rodney is the US Customs and Border Protection Commissioner, and
he said, breaking news, this is actually a marijuana plant.
Ten juvenileles were arrested, all illegal aliens. Eight of them
were unaccompanied miners. This is now under investigation for child
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labor violations. This is Newscomb's California.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Wait, bite, this wasn't a strawberry field.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
No, this is a marijuana field and you have all
underage children working there. Eight of them were unaccompanied miners.
They don't know where their parents are, they don't know
how they got here. They were just forced to start
working for free, basically at a marijuana plant in California.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I think the number of rescued children just went to
ten thousand and eight. Other things happening in DC and
by the way, speaking to children, it has just been
an outrage and I have to calm myself whenever I
hear a Democrat again or read on social media, in
particular a lot of these tweets and other posts that
nearly are celebrating the death of children in Texas so
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that they can supposedly make political points against this administration
with its cutbacks.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I think that those have finally dialed up back a
little bit, especially because you got two people got fired
for their posts. One of them was a well she
worked at like a children's She was like a children's
doctor or something, and then the whole medical practice was like,
oh my god, lady, we're supposed to just help kids,
we don't celebrate their deaths.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And of course it's this program Ariz on Saturday today,
the day we're recording it is when Trump is to
visit Texas.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I think he's handled this quite appropriately. And again, anybody
who's thinking rationally recognizes that Donald Trump is trying to
restore power to local authorities. The closer you can get
to the people, the better it should be. The local
authorities are the ones who had the lead on that one.
The Texas state authorities, by the way, for those of
you who haven't heard that update, they actually moved in
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the emergency equipment two days before the actual weather event,
and they told the local officials. The local officials may
have dropped the ball here. This is certainly not a
federal problem. It's barely a state problem. It's really about
what happened locally.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
So as we now start lining up the falsities that
we know, we were able to get forecast, We were.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Able to get a twelve hour.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Advance notice, no matter what the NWS staff was. Apparently
the offices were overstaffed at the time.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
They went from two meteorologists to five just for this
event in that area of Texas.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
So now that all that's been squashed, you're going to
move on to FEMA. FEMA cannot be cut back because
we desperately need FEMA.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
And FEMA gave everything that Texas needed, that the local
officials needed. And the people spreading that thing about Christy
Gnome delaying everything, her point was very adequate. What could
FEMA have done. FEMA's not here to protect you from
the storm. We're here to rebuild after the storm. They
already have all the stuff that they've asked for.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I'm sure FEMA will continue to exist as an agency,
but it probably should be like twenty people, because we
already know from the on the ground reporting from people
like Glenn Beck who went there in person to the
North Carolina Mountains. They were literally FEMA employees sitting in
trailers playing cards because they were waiting on instruction from
Washington as to what to do, as opposed to simply
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getting out and helping the local officials do what they
already know they need to manage.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Are you claiming that there's government waste and abuse?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
You know one thing we should have mentioned, because Congressman
Joe Wilson was upset he did not mention this. He's
asking for co sponsors on his bill.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Oh, the two hundred and fifty dollars bill. Yes, celebrate
the tred and fiftieth anniversary of the.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Nation American currency. Two hundred and fifty dollar bill featuring
Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Now, Donald Trump loves it, as does the Treasurer Brandon Beach.
I got to meet the Treasurer a couple of weeks ago,
and he's a big fan of it.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
And the other good economic news is and I mentioned
this to him, I can't find even doctor Joey von
Essen says, Look, I've never done a study on that.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
I don't know that to be true.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, but can you imagine how quickly inflation would get
to zero if we actually printed and distributed these two
hundred and fifty dollar bills because people will keep them
as collector's items. You want to pull money out of circulation,
like Jimmy Carter tried to do with a two dollar bill.
Come up with a two hundred and fifty dollar.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Bill with Donald J.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Trump's picture on it, and Joe Wilson's asking for you
to call your local congressman and co sponsor his bill.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Well, I already just spoke to mine.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
He was here. That's right, hey, coming up in just
a second.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
We're getting an opportunity to get an update on one
of the more unbelievable crimes we have ever seen them
video in Columbia, South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
When we speak to our sheriff Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Jonathan rush My comments they need to leave and they
need to leave right now, Kelly.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
Nash, Policing is something that does not create safety, and
what we need to do is reinvest into things that
are proven indicators and creators of safety.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Policing does not create safety.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
No, it actually agitates it.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
You know, we're about to play an interview we had
with hereff Leon Lott, and that was a question I
meant to ask, do you believe, sir, the police creates safety.
I'm sorry that was the how stupid of me not
to ask that, but we did ask some pretty interesting
questions and we have an update coming up in just
a second as a crime has been solved since this
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interview was first recorded. Great work, Crime Stoppers, Kelly Nash,
Welcome back in the studio. Richly County Sheriff Leon Lot goodness,
say good morning.
Speaker 10 (32:23):
Good to see y'all again.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
There are a lot of legislative issues that you deal
with outside of this that even like the General Assembly
with the closing of this last session, where there are
opportunities that you felt were missed or there were successes
from the legislature that you're excited about. What happened for
law enforcement in South Carolina.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
The failure to stop law got passed, which I think
is good. It's not in effect yet, but it's got
passed where it put a little bit more teeth into
failure to stop prior if you've fled from the police.
It really didn't get anything, no charges, hardly ever prosecuted.
So General seemblely did pass some legislation that strengthened you know.
The biggest disappointment that I saw is that came with
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ear marks, and people think, oh my god, that's that's pork,
that's bad stuff. That's just and sometimes it's used like that,
but sometimes it's used for good stuff. We needed a
command post. Our command post was a win a Baygo
from like two thousand. I mean, it was just outdated
and caught on fire twice. Last year, the General Assembly,
in an ear mark, gave us enough money to go
get us another command post. Now this year, our two
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helicopters are down. We can't fly. They're not airworth anymore.
Their Vietnam Era they both in the seventies. They're just
not airworthy. And we had some legislators from Richland County.
It all got together and said, okay, let's get the
Sheriff's apartment about one point two million dollars so they
can get a new helicopter. Well, when they cut out
all the ear marks, they went my helicopter. They just
threw the baby out with the bath war. So now
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we have to wait and hopefully next year to General
Assembly and go back to the ear marks that they've
done that helps out local government. To me, I think
that's a big disappointment.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Sure if lot you guys are batt in one thousand
right now. When it comes to solving murders.
Speaker 10 (34:01):
We haven't had an unsolved murder in three years. We've
had ten. This year we solved all ten and that's
about half of what we had last year this time, so.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
The murder rate's been cutting the half.
Speaker 10 (34:10):
So the murder rate is good, but we still got
ten victims. Ten people's died, but at least the family
knows that some justice is being done. We've done our part,
we've made their rest, we've made the case the house
up to the prosecutors to do their part. We got
some of the best investigators in the world. Our forensic
lab is second to none. We can do it all
and we can do it very quickly. But one thing
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that we have that all team most places in the
United States doesn't have. That is the relationship with the community.
Our community in Richmond County will not hesitate in calling
us and saying I saw this, this is who did this,
this is where he is. The community works hand in
hand with us to make sure we solve these cases.
And we had a murder on Broad River Road not
too long ago at the c kmart and we were
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getting crime stoppers tips. We were getting people calling us
right left telling us who did it, and we were
able to solve that one almost immediately because of what
the community does. We don't have that everywhere, but this
is something that we've developed over the years. We've made
a concentrated effort to go out into all of our
communities and build relationships with them, so it doesn't matter
where it happens. In Richland County, we've developed a relationship
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and the people are fed up with crime and they
let us know very quickly.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yesterday I saw a video in New York where a
child was almost picked up right off the sidewalk in
front of the parents, whisking to a van and then
gone probably forever. How is child trafficking or trafficking in
general and.
Speaker 10 (35:31):
Sex trafficking, and usually that's what it is. When you're
talking about human trafficking in Richland County is sex trafficking.
It intends to be runaway young girls. That's not where
somebody gets snatched off the street. It's where a young
girl is a runaway or over social media that she
is groomed to where she meets somebody and then we
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work those cases. They happen here in Richland County, but
we have a unit that just specializes in those type
cases and so we have them. A lot of it's
concentrated in the two nch Road area.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Is it getting worse.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
I'm not gonna say it's getting worse about any means whatsoever.
Things that you hear about problems in other parts of
the United States are just not problems here. We don't
have the influence with people coming across the border that
has a negative impact here in Richland County. We just
don't some drugs yet, but drugs are coming from Canada.
They're coming all over the place China, but talk about illegals.
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We just don't have those problems that other people have.
One reason is that relationship we have with all the
minority communities. They know that they're going to suffer when
they have somebody who's here illegally does something wrong, so
they don't want it. They tell us MS thirteen some
years ago tried to move into Richland County Hispanic community,
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let us know everywhere they were at what they were doing,
and we were dead on them.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
They left.
Speaker 10 (36:49):
They didn't set up operation here because they could make
a move without somebody in Hispanic community calling and letting
us know.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Sure, fleeing Lott with us here on the Jonathan and
Kelly Show. And this question probably would be better asked
of Skip Holbrook. But he's not with us, and you are,
and is Richland County, Columbia's part of that. The news
this morning as we record this, the big news is
that there is an EMU roaming wild over on Bush
River Road. Any updates on that. It's still running. It's
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still running.
Speaker 10 (37:18):
It's still running.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
That flightless bird.
Speaker 10 (37:20):
He's a dreamer that's moving very quickly. It's on the loose.
A few weeks ago to close to where we're at
in this studio, we had a pig going down the interstate,
but we called the pig. There's video that's we went nationwide. Now,
NBC News even contacted us about it. Two highway patrol
officers and one of my deputies. A pig fell out
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of the truck and here they are running zig zagging
and they catch the pig.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
I did see the video and that that that patrol me.
They ended up hauling the pig. He's a farm.
Speaker 10 (37:51):
Boys, he knews actually how to do the pig. And
my deputy that was there, she's also a farm girl.
She had friends who got pigs. So the pig found
a home.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
We have we adopted them all. Yeah, we adopted it out.
Speaker 10 (38:05):
We have pictures that it land in the mud with
the rest of the pig. So it was a feel
good story. But people had a blast over that. But
the EMU we at. The problem is, though, is what
are you gonna do when you catch it?
Speaker 5 (38:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
That's a big bird, pecky on top of your ball head,
I said, if I was the cop coming up to my.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
Tasel and they get to be like six feet tall.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
And they run over thirty miles an hour.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
Correct, And those pictures it running down Bush broad Some
auser's chasing after.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Well, I know the Mustang can trace down the thirty
one miles hour EMU. But if the EMU does not stop,
can you now enforce the failure to stop?
Speaker 10 (38:45):
As long as we've got the blue lights and sourdo
we can. We can handcuff them little skinny legs that
go so fast you got.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
To zip time.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
And that interview was slightly edited for a time restraints
of this program.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
And we can now report according.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
To the Columbia Police Department, they did get the EMU.
They didn't the actual owner of the EMU, so we
don't have any video of the EMU being taken into
custody by the owner, but that I would love to
know how he did it. How do you take a
five foot five bird who can run thirty miles an
hour and say, na, na, no, you're coming home.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
I'd love to see an EMU frog March. That's what
I like this.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Hey, listen, South Carolina, have yourself a great weekend. We
got rash thoughts coming up again on Monday.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
It's over.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I wish that all of you will come back again
next week.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Can you come back next week? That's what you bring
it to. You got to come back next week.