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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, Hello, Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
We had a major victory today after standing strong, Angelino's
were united.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We've been notified that two thousand troops are leaving.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
They are retreated.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Kelly Nash, we stood strong and we won.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show the major. She's the league
commander of the forces in Los Angeles who repelled the
United States Army head Seth had to back the troops out.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You said, boys, get out of there before she's angry.
You don't want to see her when she's angry. I mean,
this is one of the most delusional statements I've ever heard.
The National Guard is in retreat right now. Well, what
about Ice. Didn't you tell them to leave and leave
right now? You said that they didn't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I think Ice is still there.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm damn sure of it.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
The Army, the National Guard, as you point out more
specifically correctly, was there to protect federal building during the
protests that were rolling out all across the city having
to do with the Ice detention and deportion deportations taking
place as they were bringing American citizens behind their masks
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they're not real men like Gavin Newsom, like Eric Swalwell,
those are real men.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
These men hide behind mask they jump out of unmarked
vans like in the motion picture Taken. They snatch people
off the streets, many of them citizens of this country,
and then they're shipped off to I don't know, some
third world country where there's been the rest of their
life in a penitentiary.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, you know, Heraldo Rivera pointed out that the other
day that if you're doing a profession where you have
to wear a mask, then you can't be doing anything honorable.
And I said, this is sad news for surgeon. But
you know, this idea that they've won a war, that
first off, that you were in a war. You're not
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in a war. The only war you've seem to have
in your mind is against law and order.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
The battle continues today, Kelly, but not in Los Angeles.
She rules with an iron fist. Mayor Largemouth Bass. Okay, hey,
we're going to talk with our Lieutenant governor in just
a second. She's made a big announcement this past week.
We'll also talk about some of the other things going
on currently in the state of South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Although This is a little quiet right now because.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
The General Assembly is not in session, but we do
have some areas that we could cover with her coming
up in a few minutes. One of the things we
talked about today is that, you know, it was how
long ago now that they take John C. Calhoun's statue
down at Marion Square in Charleston.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, I think I read that it was like in
twenty maybe twenty twenty one that they had to vote
the county council, our city council voted to not only
remove the John C. Calhoun statue, but forbade it from
being shown even privately within city limits. Show this in
my own home.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You certainly couldn't put it in your backyard. It was
stick up above the fence. You're gonna build a ninety
foot fence to keep it only for the privacy of
who your own, your family.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh no, they said it can't be displayed privately, meaning
I couldn't build a building and have it in the
city limits. You know, it would just be for me
and my friends to see it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Illegal.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I'm gonna go ahead and say that's a little bit
of government overreach. I'm just going to put that out
there as a thought, and the reason is because John
Calhoun didn't like black people. That's the reason, right. John Calhoun, though,
should be remembered as the guy who, according to the
historians at the time, the people who were writing about
him in the eighteen early eighteen hundreds, he won almost
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single handedly the Great eighteen eighteen fourteen Battles. He got
the troops. America didn't have any troops. He single handedly
got one hundred thousand people to sign up. He then
went and got the funds to pay them and fought
off the British again. So America was by one guy
who also, I mean, I know some people say Andrew
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Jackson's from South Carolina. Andrew Jackson couldn't tell you where
he's from.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
They don't. He's not available for coming.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But we but so, out of the vice presidents and
presidents in the history of the United States, some would
say Jackson's from North Carolina, some would say it's from
South Carolina. But everybody knows that John C. Calhoun was
from South Carolina. It's the only one that we can
actually claim as our own. And yeah, everybody before eighteen
sixty could be held guilty of slavery and all those
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types of things.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Certainly there was a large portion of the population.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Could we not condemn the entire city of Charleston.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
That's what I was gonna say, and we alluded to this.
Today we're going to talk a little bit about history here.
Now these are only things that I learned while riding
in a horse drawn carriage and told by official Charleston
city tour guide.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So all of this has to be true.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Not only true, but they're profiteering off of slave labor
still today.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That is a great point, another reason why the entire
city needs to be leveled. A holy crap, look at
all the nasty history you people have suffered through. You
still to this day paraded out. There are women right
now making baskets at something they call the market. Well,
guess what used to be marketed their slaves when they
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stepped off the ship.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It still has market street. You still you sell t
shirts and everything with rainbow row on it. Every one
of those houses was built before eighteen twenty aka slaves.
They built by slaves, and you all own slaves. So
everything about Charleston is slaves. So if you don't like
John C. Calhoun, then you don't like Charleston.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And Furthermore, you know it would be beneficial I think
for everybody if we cover up the cobblestone. The cobblestones
came off the slave ships, probably made by slaves. So
if you just level the entire dam, are you gonna
just shake it really hard like a snow globe? Level
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the entire damn city. Why don't you go ahead and
do yourself a favor and build it up like twenty
thirty feet get it above sea level would be good.
How about build a battery that actually would be a
battery and hold back the Atlantic Ocean. You build it
too short to begin with, and then we can just
start fresh. We could bring in the new found liberals
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like Google. Google could build Charleston two point zero.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, Daniel Island, if you've ever been there, is like
a brand new city. We could just make Charleston just
look like Daniel Island. That's all new houses, everything's clean
as a whistle.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Now we do have some court debates can still go on.
They're going to turn it over to a historical organization
and also the family members. And because the city of
Charleston has outlawed it to be anywhere, so you're not
going to be like the city of Columbia where we
found the fire housing out here in a deserted area
of town.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Did we ever figure out what happened with it?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I dumped it out there, it.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Was in a dump or something, and then but we
never brought it back.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
You're not going to find John C. Calhoun just dumped
off and deserted lot somewhere.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Hey, and it comes with some very I'm sure well
appointed bronze plaques and some bronze palmetto trees and the
base that it actually sits on. So what if, just
what if they just loaded it up, took it right
across the bridge and put it down like in North Charleston,
or they put it down in one of the neighboring
cities outside of the city limits, and then maybe make
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a slight adjustment. If you're a family member, you want
to have his right hand raised and shoot in the
city of Charleston a bird, how about that?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I don't know I did this.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I wish that we could kind of just revisit twenty twenty,
like the whole year. Can we get a due over
on twenty twenty? The whole year was so insane and
I think we're going to reap the the decisions for
quite a while, and we're trying to get a course
correction right now as here we are five years later,
trying to heal from twenty twenty. But it's still going
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to be a while. And I don't think that if
you had that vote today, that the city council would
vote to banish John C. Calhoun from the city's limits.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Forever, because a lot of the people involved with what
happened in twenty twenty. You're still alive, will be alive
for a while. I told my kids it'll be long
after my death. But there will be an incredible book
that's going to come out in a movie series that
will follow called twenty twenty the year that was, or
whatever the title of the movie is, but it will be.
It will be a phenomenal read. But if we could
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somehow just talk to John, if John C. Calhoun were
available today, it probably just pull up his knickers and
walk down, walk down the streets, maybe carrying a stonewall
jackson old hickory stick, snatch a damn tour guide off
a horse drawn carriage, and beat the hell out of
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him right there, Because what are you going to say, now, Oh,
this is Marion Square and in the middle is it's Well,
there used to be something there we can't speak of anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, we shall not speak the name of who's trying
to rewrite history? Now that's great.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Who's writing the scripts for the tour guys at Charleston?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But there we writing history. Oh wait a minute, there's
the hotline.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Kelly nash Walk come on the phone, Lieutenant Governor Pamela Eva,
good morning.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Hey, do you have a hat or did you throw
it in the ring?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Oh? My hat is officially in the ring, and yes
it is. It was. It was a great night Monday night.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, I know there was a big announcement. We thought
it was going to come the week before here in Columbia,
but you went to the upstate, your home part of
the state, and made the big announcement. And now I
understand you're out of the gate and you're raising more
money than even you anticipated.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
How is that possible?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Well, you know, I've always I'm a conservative through rights
to my bones, and and I think when you're accountant,
you always hope for the bust, you know, but you
stay reserved and so but yeah, I was, and for me,
it's always been hard to like think, see, think good
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things about yourself, right, Like I can always be like
like the best supporter for other people, but I always think, like, Wow,
I'm so humbled when people give up not not just
their time, but they give up their treasure. And you know,
they went all in once the announcement officially happened, and
I'm just I'm just grateful. I think grateful is the
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best word that I could say. Grateful for everybody who
has stepped up. Some people I knew some people that
just kind of said, I like that you're a business person.
I like that you have signed the front of a paycheck,
You've balanced budgets, you've created good paying jobs, and that's
what we need more of. And I didn't know them,
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and they've reached out on all my platforms and said,
you know, we're all in. This is what we think
the state needs moving forward, and we think this is
becomes the game changer for South Carolina. And so I'm
I'm incredibly humbled.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
We're talking with Pamela Evitt, who is running for governor
but is currently serving as the lieutenant governor here in
South Carolina. And as we speak to you on Thursday morning,
it's nine o'clock where we're at, but it's six o'clock
because you're in Lake Tahoe for a big meeting of
all the lieutenant governors. And I would have to imagine
that in a situation like that, you are put in
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close quarters with some lieutenant governors who we might think
are absolutely insane. Do they do they do they show
how liberal they are in these types of meetings or
do they come across as normal people?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Oh? Well, you know, I think it's a little bit
of both. I think when when when you're just being
you know, normal people and you say, hey, how are
you haven't seen you, you know, in months, how's your family?
Everybody seems kind of normal. But when we get into policy,
it's where, you know, the kind of the lines are drawn.
And I'm shocked. They have asked me to chair the
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National Lieutenant Government Association this year, and that's good because
I always consider myself outspoken on the issues that I
feel passionately about. Years ago, when I first became part
of this organization, it was it was voting, and I think,
I you know, they asked that you keep these things nonpartisan, right.
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We try to find issues that we can agree on
and there was actually one point in time, guys, that
the only issue we can talk about in a meeting
was childhood obesity because it was the only thing we
could all agree that was that was bad.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I'm surprised I didn't say that's fat shaming.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Why would you fat.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Shame the kids?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I think I look at me always going for the
glasses halfle. We found a topic. We all think it's bad,
but but yeah, I mean it kind of. I can
only listen to things that I consider stupidity for so
long before I start firing back and wanting some common
sense answers. And we've gotten into those skirmishes, like again
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talking about voting and me like going out and and
quoting like liberal media talking about the fact that in
Chicago they discovered it was like two hundred and fifty
thousand people dead that voted, and so you know, and
I'm like these this isn't this isn't a conservative publication. Guy, Like,
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so tell me how I'm being a conspiracy theorist when
this is sitting in print and you know, they just
look at you, or or the prior lieutenant governor of
Vermont was trying to convince all of us that you
know we should legalize every single drug that it's the
poor users that end up in jail, but it's never
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the real people. And I was I was like, almost
fell off my chair. I'm like, I take an oath
to make to have every decision I make make South
Carolina humanity better. I guess I take that to heart. Like,
in three minutes, tell me how legalizing all drugs and
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make in dumbing down our society brings any worth or value, Like,
I'll give you three minutes of my life to try
to explain to me why that is a good that
is a good platform that you could possibly throw out there.
And it's just, you know, we do like there are
some lieutenant governors that set on the left that will
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try to argue these things, and it's just I can't
step down from that because I think you can only
do that for so long. But when you stop pushing
back with common sense and just say this isn't right
and these are the facts. When we don't do that,
I think we almost empower them to think that they
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got us on the ropes, like, oh, look, they can't
come back with anything. And so despite all of that,
they have asked need to chair and I think maybe
it's because it does bring good dialogue, and I'm not
afraid to stand up for our conservative way of thinking.
I think our resume is good. You and I have
talked about that for a long time, and so I'm
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willing to get in the ring. I'm willing to get
in the ring on a lot of issues and just
bring common sense in good conservative thinking to the table
because I think it's what's going to continue to make
our country better and better.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
How do you talk to people when they ask you,
why don't our legislators do a better job of learning
how to write laws? Now we get another Supreme Court
case coming up with this vote on giving themselves a
pay raise, much like we went through with the education
bill where they wanted the fun private school, like we
went through with the abortion bill. Me if we always
had to take everything to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Here, why I believe we need some days. We need
to slow down when we do things, and I think
we can't be forced into like saying things that we
know we can't defend. Right, you may mean it in
your heart, but you have to be able to defend it.
It has to fall within the guidelines of the Constitution.
And I think sometimes you know, pressure to say certain
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things or do certain things jump up, jump up into
the forefront. So I just say, you know, government was
designed as frustrating as it is. I remember coming down
to Columbia, you know, basically in the infancy stages. Right
had just been lieutenant governor. And I remember Bruce Bryant,
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he was the sheriff up in York and then he
was a House representative, and he was just kind of
had been around the block. Right had been around, and
I would say, Bruce, oh my god, this takes so long.
And he said, you know what, LG. He said, government
is frustrating as it is. Our forefathers designed it to
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take time so that we would come up with good
laws and that we weren't just will nilly passing things
that could you know, get on the books and just
drowned us. Which is one of my platforms, right, getting
rid of useless regulations, sun setting all of our regulations
and make them be reevaluated. If you're putting on new regulations,
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get rid of ten like, go back to making these
things easier. But his point was, you know, we have
to do things slow, so we do it right. And
I think every time we see things kind of going
through and going through quickly. So let's slow down and
let's get it right the first time, and let's not
spend wasting time and energy in court trying to defend
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the things that we do.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Talking with the Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Evatt, and everybody knows
that you're a very successful business person. Back in twenty fifteen,
number three female entrepreneur in the United States that was
your ranking. Grew your business to a billion dollar enterprise.
I mean, it's very impressive. Business is one thing to another.
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As you sit here, you know, looking at the future
of South Carolina, is there anything that you would do
differently than what's currently happening, Like what kind of changes
would you see coming from you know, the Governor's mansion.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I think successful business people in any industry can tell
you that it's not about looking at today and saying
these things are bad. It's about the way that innovation
and technology move forward and how you take those things
and you use them to make better. So like when
David and I had we were blessed to have very
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very successful business and as we grew it, every year
that we had a positive year, we didn't stop there
and say, oh, okay, well this is good enough. You know,
I think in my experience, I've sat in the executive
branch in the public sector, I've sat in the executive
branch in the private sector, and I can tell you
we should all be striving for better. And I think
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what we're seeing now is a push to take the
private sector what's working well technology and bring it into government.
I mean, what from the other side, you know, as
a business owner, how how do we get government to
work efficiently? You know, everybody talks about getting to a
zero state income tax state. You and I talked about it.
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I have seen how we can bring technology and leverage
it in government, and you know, being part of groups
like the Republican Lieutenant Governors Association, Republican State Legislative Committee,
I have colleagues that have started some of these processes
with taking technology and the savings are hundreds of millions
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of dollars to their state. Now I'm a data person, right,
I want to see ROI and those are things that
a lot of times, if you've never been in the
business world, you don't even know what those acronyms are.
It's like, how do we take what's happened, how do
we look at what's happening in government? How do we
make it more efficient, how do we leverage new technologies.
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That's how you take business and you bring it into
the private and you bring it into the public sector.
You know, lots of talk about DOGE. DOGE just became
a sexy acronym, but what it is doing is it's
telling states and honestly, guys, it needs to go down
to the local level too. We need to start leveraging
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technology to find out where we have waste, fraud and
abuse and granted at a state level, a local level,
you're never going to see things like sending millions of
dollars to another country for wokeness, right like, we're not
doing that. But what we can be doing is using
technology to cut out medicaid fraud that could be happening.
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You get good systems in place where you know your
departments are all talking together. That's how you get these
things done. That's how you start saving bottom line, real
hard earned dollars that get this state to the point
where we can easily say we can become a zero
dating from tax state. It's not one sorver bullet to
do that, You've got to do a lot of things
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in unison. But we can get there. But it all
starts with good government.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You know, at this point, we have an attorney general,
we have a state senator, we have possibly a US Congressman,
and in your case, you are sitting in the executive office,
and as the from the executive perspective, having to do
with all the agencies under your what would be your
new domain, whether it's a Department of Commerce, Department of
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Education South Carolina, Department of Transportation, whatever it is. Instead
of saying where can we improve, let me ask you
this question. What has been one of the biggest successes
that you were part of in the past four years
and which agency was that?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
So, you know, it's really hard. I guess I have
to think about that because we've had a lot of
wins and a lot of different areas. Right, I believe
we've done great in really pushing forward and changing kind
of like the common thinking of our technical college system. Right,
We've done a great job in commerce selling South Carolina
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is a state where they where they want to come,
you know, roads or something. I don't believe anybody's ever
going to be completely happy with because it's like such
a maintenance item, like as you get one fixed, another
one has a problem. You get one thing done. It's
like at home, right. I'm sure you guys both have
honeyde lists that you seem like you tick three things
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off and three more things come on. But I think
you know what we've done in really putting a focus
on upscaling our bridges so that we're not under load
restrictions like we are making dents in that. And I
think I can look at all the things we've done
our Department of Veterans Affairs right South Carolina, proud military state.
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The governor create that as a cabinet so that we
could now leverage veteran services here in South Carolina. What
a great win, especially when you're talking about workforce, because
we're trying to attackt veterans to our state when they retire,
because we know they're proven, great, reliable employees that have
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already been seasoned for us. So I could kind of
go through and talk about wins in so many areas.
But you I think the secret of being in the
executive branch is you can't focus on just one thing.
You have to be able to walk and shoe gum.
At the same time, when you're in charge of one
thing or you know, kind of like one topic, that's great,
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you can focus solely on that. Any executive, even in
the private sector, will tell you that when you're at
the helm, you got to be able to have great
peripheral vision so that you can figure out how all
these things have to work hand in gloves together. It
can be just one thing because it's an ecosystem and
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it all has to come together for you.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Talking with our Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evatt and uh, you know,
we recently had Joe Wilson in here and he was
talking about some of the power demands that are going
to be coming in the not too distant future as
AI becomes more and more dominant. And you know, if
you look at South Carolina, we've been pretty active when
it comes to nuclear energy. Any any insights as to
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how we can actually grow this even further? Are we
going to continue with nuclear energy? Do you think that
there's going to We're going to build more dams? What
do you how do you see South Carolina becoming a
power player when it comes to AI.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Well, I think first and foremost is this something you
and I have talked about this in the past. I
have really tried to put a big emphasis on this
of the last two years because as a business person,
I can see I mean it again, was one of
those things that when you're sitting in the executive branch,
you need to say I'm looking ten years out, I'm
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looking fifteen years out, because if you're saying I'm looking
three to five years out, you're already looking in the
rearview mirror. And so energy was something that you know,
I identified a long time ago and jumped in kind
of the jumped in feet first or head first. Jumped
in head first on this issue because I wanted to
learn more about it and I and it was about
getting baseload up right. So I sat with Keller at Dominion,
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and I've been out to Sancy Cooper, and I've been
with Jimmy and have looked at their control centers, and
I've been out to Duke Energy, and all of them
share the same thing, like, if we want to really
make a dent, we have to get base load up
because we have to make sure we handle the day
to day needs, and we have to look at dispatchable energy,
and you know, it was something that took a long
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time this session, and I was kind of making light
in a great way calling it our big, beautiful energy
Bill here in South Carolina because it paved the way
for both those things I think we need to put.
You know, we need to look at things that make
good sense for South Carolina when it keeps our energy flowing.
And so the resurrection of VC summer that nuclear energy
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becomes a base load enhancer and so you know, getting
that project, you know, re energized, making sure that we're
upping our baseload on that. And then the other part
of that bill taking one of our coal fuel plants
and turning it into a natural gas plant that's dispatchable energy.
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That's what gets us through those peak times when it's
really cold or it's really hot, when we have those spikes,
and so that bill took care of a lot of
that for us. That's how we look ahead to continue
to grow. And you're right, South Carolina needs the way
leads the way, and we have to lead the way.
And that's the way we have to legislate by thinking,
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if we're going to keep growing, the careers of the
future are going to be energy users. We have to
make sure that we're ready for that, and so energy
becomes a huge part of this.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Well, I know you've got a very busy day schedule
for today, and one of the things that one of
do is thank you for spending so much time with us.
I know it's one of the few opportunities when you
use talk radio to be able to have an elongated
conversation as opposed to ninety seconds in a debate stage,
which is where most South Carolinians are going to hear
you speak, and unfortunately a lot of them are not
going to get the elongated answers. But hopefully we'll have
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an opportunity to speak with you again as we get
closer to the governor's race, first the Republican primary, and
we'll see who else decides to throw their hat in
the ring.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You could also say, to people who want longer answers,
go check out the rass Thought podcast because all my
answers are there forever.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
That's right, absolutely well, you know, guys, I appreciate and
I've said this over and over, and it's not just
lip service. I've been saying this for seven years. When
I first became Lieutenant governor, I people tell me, why
do you do talk radio? I mean, what a waste
of your time. You know, they only grab a certain
amount of people, and I never believe that to be true.
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I have always believed exactly what you just said. I
want people to hear from me direct and not a
thirty second clip where the meaning can get you know,
skewed or could be taken a number of ways. And
so I appreciate what y'all do, and I appreciate the
fact that you have me on every month and we
talk about topics and conversations that South Carolinians are vested in, right.
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I mean, they're putting there, they're raising their families here,
they're growing businesses here. They want to make sure that
they're putting people in office that have the resume to
do the job. And I believe that that's becoming more
and more important to voters. And we talked about that.
What a few months ago, why you thought people didn't
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really want to get out and vote? You know, why
the decline. I think it's because they were getting disenchanted.
But I think when you can show a solid resume
that listen, my resume shows that I am more than
able to do this job. I think it will energize
people to want to get out and make the right choices.
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And they hear those things when I go on talk radio,
and I would like to say, you guys, you know,
loyal only to you. I only go on your show.
But I've been doing talk radio every week all across
the state for seven years, and I believe it's how
people gotten to know me. And so I thank you,
thank you for giving me time on your platform to
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let people get to know me.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
All Right, Well, we'd love hearing from you. I guess
we'll have you back on next month. And good luck
out there with all those crazy libs at the Lieutenant
Governor's meetings.
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, Hello, Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
We had a major victory today after standing strong, Angelino's
were united.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We've been notified that two thousand troops are leaving.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
They are retreated.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Kelly Nash, we stood strong and we won.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show the major. She's the league
commander of the forces in Los Angeles who repelled the
United States Army head Seth had to back the troops out.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
You said, boys, get out of there before she's angry.
You don't want to see her when she's angry. I mean,
this is one of the most delusional statements I've ever heard.
The National Guard is in retreat right now. Well, what
about Ice. Didn't you tell them to leave and leave
right now? You said that they didn't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I think Ice is still there.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm damn sure of it.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
The Army, the National Guard, as you point out more
specifically correctly, was there to protect federal building during the
protests that were rolling out all across the city having
to do with the Ice detention and deportion deportations taking
place as they were bringing American citizens behind their masks
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they're not real men like Gavin Newsom, like Eric Swalwell,
those are real men.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
These men hide behind mask they jump out of unmarked
vans like in the motion picture Taken. They snatch people
off the streets, many of them citizens of this country,
and then they're shipped off to I don't know, some
third world country where there's been the rest of their
life in a penitentiary.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, you know, Heraldo Rivera pointed out that the other
day that if you're doing a profession where you have
to wear a mask, then you can't be doing anything honorable.
And I said, this is sad news for surgeon. But
you know, this idea that they've won a war, that
first off, that you were in a war. You're not
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in a war. The only war you've seem to have
in your mind is against law and order.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
The battle continues today, Kelly, but not in Los Angeles.
She rules with an iron fist. Mayor Largemouth Bass. Okay, hey,
we're going to talk with our Lieutenant governor in just
a second. She's made a big announcement this past week.
We'll also talk about some of the other things going
on currently in the state of South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Although This is a little quiet right now because.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
The General Assembly is not in session, but we do
have some areas that we could cover with her coming
up in a few minutes. One of the things we
talked about today is that, you know, it was how
long ago now that they take John C. Calhoun's statue
down at Marion Square in Charleston.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, I think I read that it was like in
twenty maybe twenty twenty one that they had to vote
the county council, our city council voted to not only
remove the John C. Calhoun statue, but forbade it from
being shown even privately within city limits. Show this in
my own home.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You certainly couldn't put it in your backyard. It was
stick up above the fence. You're gonna build a ninety
foot fence to keep it only for the privacy of
who your own, your family.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh no, they said it can't be displayed privately, meaning
I couldn't build a building and have it in the
city limits. You know, it would just be for me
and my friends to see it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Illegal.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I'm gonna go ahead and say that's a little bit
of government overreach. I'm just going to put that out
there as a thought, and the reason is because John
Calhoun didn't like black people. That's the reason, right. John Calhoun, though,
should be remembered as the guy who, according to the
historians at the time, the people who were writing about
him in the eighteen early eighteen hundreds, he won almost
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single handedly the Great eighteen eighteen fourteen Battles. He got
the troops. America didn't have any troops. He single handedly
got one hundred thousand people to sign up. He then
went and got the funds to pay them and fought
off the British again. So America was by one guy
who also, I mean, I know some people say Andrew
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Jackson's from South Carolina. Andrew Jackson couldn't tell you where
he's from.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
They don't. He's not available for coming.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
But we but so, out of the vice presidents and
presidents in the history of the United States, some would
say Jackson's from North Carolina, some would say it's from
South Carolina. But everybody knows that John C. Calhoun was
from South Carolina. It's the only one that we can
actually claim as our own. And yeah, everybody before eighteen
sixty could be held guilty of slavery and all those
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types of things.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Certainly there was a large portion of the population.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Could we not condemn the entire city of Charleston.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
That's what I was gonna say, and we alluded to this.
Today we're going to talk a little bit about history here.
Now these are only things that I learned while riding
in a horse drawn carriage and told by official Charleston
city tour guide.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So all of this has to be true.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Not only true, but they're profiteering off of slave labor
still today.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
That is a great point, another reason why the entire
city needs to be leveled. A holy crap, look at
all the nasty history you people have suffered through. You
still to this day paraded out. There are women right
now making baskets at something they call the market. Well,
guess what used to be marketed their slaves when they
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stepped off the ship.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It still has market street. You still you sell t
shirts and everything with rainbow row on it. Every one
of those houses was built before eighteen twenty aka slaves.
They built by slaves, and you all own slaves. So
everything about Charleston is slaves. So if you don't like
John C. Calhoun, then you don't like Charleston.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And Furthermore, you know it would be beneficial I think
for everybody if we cover up the cobblestone. The cobblestones
came off the slave ships, probably made by slaves. So
if you just level the entire dam, are you gonna
just shake it really hard like a snow globe? Level
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the entire damn city. Why don't you go ahead and
do yourself a favor and build it up like twenty
thirty feet get it above sea level would be good.
How about build a battery that actually would be a
battery and hold back the Atlantic Ocean. You build it
too short to begin with, and then we can just
start fresh. We could bring in the new found liberals
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like Google. Google could build Charleston two point zero.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, Daniel Island, if you've ever been there, is like
a brand new city. We could just make Charleston just
look like Daniel Island. That's all new houses, everything's clean
as a whistle.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Now we do have some court debates can still go on.
They're going to turn it over to a historical organization
and also the family members. And because the city of
Charleston has outlawed it to be anywhere, so you're not
going to be like the city of Columbia where we
found the fire housing out here in a deserted area
of town.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Did we ever figure out what happened with it?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I dumped it out there, it.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Was in a dump or something, and then but we
never brought it back.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
You're not going to find John C. Calhoun just dumped
off and deserted lot somewhere.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Hey, and it comes with some very I'm sure well
appointed bronze plaques and some bronze palmetto trees and the
base that it actually sits on. So what if, just
what if they just loaded it up, took it right
across the bridge and put it down like in North Charleston,
or they put it down in one of the neighboring
cities outside of the city limits, and then maybe make
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a slight adjustment. If you're a family member, you want
to have his right hand raised and shoot in the
city of Charleston a bird, how about that?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
I don't know I did this.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I wish that we could kind of just revisit twenty twenty,
like the whole year. Can we get a due over
on twenty twenty? The whole year was so insane and
I think we're going to reap the the decisions for
quite a while, and we're trying to get a course
correction right now as here we are five years later,
trying to heal from twenty twenty. But it's still going
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to be a while. And I don't think that if
you had that vote today, that the city council would
vote to banish John C. Calhoun from the city's limits.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Forever, because a lot of the people involved with what
happened in twenty twenty. You're still alive, will be alive
for a while. I told my kids it'll be long
after my death. But there will be an incredible book
that's going to come out in a movie series that
will follow called twenty twenty the year that was, or
whatever the title of the movie is, but it will be.
It will be a phenomenal read. But if we could
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somehow just talk to John, if John C. Calhoun were
available today, it probably just pull up his knickers and
walk down, walk down the streets, maybe carrying a stonewall
jackson old hickory stick, snatch a damn tour guide off
a horse drawn carriage, and beat the hell out of
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him right there, Because what are you going to say, now, Oh,
this is Marion Square and in the middle is it's Well,
there used to be something there we can't speak of anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, we shall not speak the name of who's trying
to rewrite history? Now that's great.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Who's writing the scripts for the tour guys at Charleston?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
But there we writing history. Oh wait a minute, there's
the hotline.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Kelly nash Walk come on the phone, Lieutenant Governor Pamela Eva,
good morning.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Hey, do you have a hat or did you throw
it in the ring?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Oh? My hat is officially in the ring, and yes
it is. It was. It was a great night Monday night.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, I know there was a big announcement. We thought
it was going to come the week before here in Columbia,
but you went to the upstate, your home part of
the state, and made the big announcement. And now I
understand you're out of the gate and you're raising more
money than even you anticipated.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
How is that possible?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Well, you know, I've always I'm a conservative through rights
to my bones, and and I think when you're accountant,
you always hope for the bust, you know, but you
stay reserved and so but yeah, I was, and for me,
it's always been hard to like think, see, think good
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things about yourself, right, Like I can always be like
like the best supporter for other people, but I always think, like, Wow,
I'm so humbled when people give up not not just
their time, but they give up their treasure. And you know,
they went all in once the announcement officially happened, and
I'm just I'm just grateful. I think grateful is the
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best word that I could say. Grateful for everybody who
has stepped up. Some people I knew some people that
just kind of said, I like that you're a business person.
I like that you have signed the front of a paycheck,
You've balanced budgets, you've created good paying jobs, and that's
what we need more of. And I didn't know them,
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and they've reached out on all my platforms and said,
you know, we're all in. This is what we think
the state needs moving forward, and we think this is
becomes the game changer for South Carolina. And so I'm
I'm incredibly humbled.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
We're talking with Pamela Evitt, who is running for governor
but is currently serving as the lieutenant governor here in
South Carolina. And as we speak to you on Thursday morning,
it's nine o'clock where we're at, but it's six o'clock
because you're in Lake Tahoe for a big meeting of
all the lieutenant governors. And I would have to imagine
that in a situation like that, you are put in
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close quarters with some lieutenant governors who we might think
are absolutely insane. Do they do they do they show
how liberal they are in these types of meetings or
do they come across as normal people?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Oh? Well, you know, I think it's a little bit
of both. I think when when when you're just being
you know, normal people and you say, hey, how are
you haven't seen you, you know, in months, how's your family?
Everybody seems kind of normal. But when we get into policy,
it's where, you know, the kind of the lines are drawn.
And I'm shocked. They have asked me to chair the
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National Lieutenant Government Association this year, and that's good because
I always consider myself outspoken on the issues that I
feel passionately about. Years ago, when I first became part
of this organization, it was it was voting, and I think,
I you know, they asked that you keep these things nonpartisan, right.
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We try to find issues that we can agree on
and there was actually one point in time, guys, that
the only issue we can talk about in a meeting
was childhood obesity because it was the only thing we
could all agree that was that was bad.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I'm surprised I didn't say that's fat shaming.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Why would you fat.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Shame the kids?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I think I look at me always going for the
glasses halfle. We found a topic. We all think it's bad,
but but yeah, I mean it kind of. I can
only listen to things that I consider stupidity for so
long before I start firing back and wanting some common
sense answers. And we've gotten into those skirmishes, like again
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talking about voting and me like going out and and
quoting like liberal media talking about the fact that in
Chicago they discovered it was like two hundred and fifty
thousand people dead that voted, and so you know, and
I'm like these this isn't this isn't a conservative publication. Guy, Like,
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so tell me how I'm being a conspiracy theorist when
this is sitting in print and you know, they just
look at you, or or the prior lieutenant governor of
Vermont was trying to convince all of us that you
know we should legalize every single drug that it's the
poor users that end up in jail, but it's never
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the real people. And I was I was like, almost
fell off my chair. I'm like, I take an oath
to make to have every decision I make make South
Carolina humanity better. I guess I take that to heart. Like,
in three minutes, tell me how legalizing all drugs and
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make in dumbing down our society brings any worth or value, Like,
I'll give you three minutes of my life to try
to explain to me why that is a good that
is a good platform that you could possibly throw out there.
And it's just, you know, we do like there are
some lieutenant governors that set on the left that will
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try to argue these things, and it's just I can't
step down from that because I think you can only
do that for so long. But when you stop pushing
back with common sense and just say this isn't right
and these are the facts. When we don't do that,
I think we almost empower them to think that they
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got us on the ropes, like, oh, look, they can't
come back with anything. And so despite all of that,
they have asked need to chair and I think maybe
it's because it does bring good dialogue, and I'm not
afraid to stand up for our conservative way of thinking.
I think our resume is good. You and I have
talked about that for a long time, and so I'm
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willing to get in the ring. I'm willing to get
in the ring on a lot of issues and just
bring common sense in good conservative thinking to the table
because I think it's what's going to continue to make
our country better and better.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
How do you talk to people when they ask you,
why don't our legislators do a better job of learning
how to write laws? Now we get another Supreme Court
case coming up with this vote on giving themselves a
pay raise, much like we went through with the education
bill where they wanted the fun private school, like we
went through with the abortion bill. Me if we always
had to take everything to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Here, why I believe we need some days. We need
to slow down when we do things, and I think
we can't be forced into like saying things that we
know we can't defend. Right, you may mean it in
your heart, but you have to be able to defend it.
It has to fall within the guidelines of the Constitution.
And I think sometimes you know, pressure to say certain
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things or do certain things jump up, jump up into
the forefront. So I just say, you know, government was
designed as frustrating as it is. I remember coming down
to Columbia, you know, basically in the infancy stages. Right
had just been lieutenant governor. And I remember Bruce Bryant,
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he was the sheriff up in York and then he
was a House representative, and he was just kind of
had been around the block. Right had been around, and
I would say, Bruce, oh my god, this takes so long.
And he said, you know what, LG. He said, government
is frustrating as it is. Our forefathers designed it to
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take time so that we would come up with good
laws and that we weren't just will nilly passing things
that could you know, get on the books and just
drowned us. Which is one of my platforms, right, getting
rid of useless regulations, sun setting all of our regulations
and make them be reevaluated. If you're putting on new regulations,
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get rid of ten like, go back to making these
things easier. But his point was, you know, we have
to do things slow, so we do it right. And
I think every time we see things kind of going
through and going through quickly. So let's slow down and
let's get it right the first time, and let's not
spend wasting time and energy in court trying to defend
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the things that we do.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Talking with the Lieutenant Governor, Pamela Evatt, and everybody knows
that you're a very successful business person. Back in twenty fifteen,
number three female entrepreneur in the United States that was
your ranking. Grew your business to a billion dollar enterprise.
I mean, it's very impressive. Business is one thing to another.
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As you sit here, you know, looking at the future
of South Carolina, is there anything that you would do
differently than what's currently happening, Like what kind of changes
would you see coming from you know, the Governor's mansion.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I think successful business people in any industry can tell
you that it's not about looking at today and saying
these things are bad. It's about the way that innovation
and technology move forward and how you take those things
and you use them to make better. So like when
David and I had we were blessed to have very
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very successful business and as we grew it, every year
that we had a positive year, we didn't stop there
and say, oh, okay, well this is good enough. You know,
I think in my experience, I've sat in the executive
branch in the public sector, I've sat in the executive
branch in the private sector, and I can tell you
we should all be striving for better. And I think
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what we're seeing now is a push to take the
private sector what's working well technology and bring it into government.
I mean, what from the other side, you know, as
a business owner, how how do we get government to
work efficiently? You know, everybody talks about getting to a
zero state income tax state. You and I talked about it.
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I have seen how we can bring technology and leverage
it in government, and you know, being part of groups
like the Republican Lieutenant Governors Association, Republican State Legislative Committee,
I have colleagues that have started some of these processes
with taking technology and the savings are hundreds of millions
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of dollars to their state. Now I'm a data person, right,
I want to see ROI and those are things that
a lot of times, if you've never been in the
business world, you don't even know what those acronyms are.
It's like, how do we take what's happened, how do
we look at what's happening in government? How do we
make it more efficient, how do we leverage new technologies.
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That's how you take business and you bring it into
the private and you bring it into the public sector.
You know, lots of talk about DOGE. DOGE just became
a sexy acronym, but what it is doing is it's
telling states and honestly, guys, it needs to go down
to the local level too. We need to start leveraging
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technology to find out where we have waste, fraud and
abuse and granted at a state level, a local level,
you're never going to see things like sending millions of
dollars to another country for wokeness, right like, we're not
doing that. But what we can be doing is using
technology to cut out medicaid fraud that could be happening.
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You get good systems in place where you know your
departments are all talking together. That's how you get these
things done. That's how you start saving bottom line, real
hard earned dollars that get this state to the point
where we can easily say we can become a zero
dating from tax state. It's not one sorver bullet to
do that, You've got to do a lot of things
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in unison. But we can get there. But it all
starts with good government.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You know, at this point, we have an attorney general,
we have a state senator, we have possibly a US Congressman,
and in your case, you are sitting in the executive office,
and as the from the executive perspective, having to do
with all the agencies under your what would be your
new domain, whether it's a Department of Commerce, Department of
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Education South Carolina, Department of Transportation, whatever it is. Instead
of saying where can we improve, let me ask you
this question. What has been one of the biggest successes
that you were part of in the past four years
and which agency was that?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
So, you know, it's really hard. I guess I have
to think about that because we've had a lot of
wins and a lot of different areas. Right, I believe
we've done great in really pushing forward and changing kind
of like the common thinking of our technical college system. Right,
We've done a great job in commerce selling South Carolina
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is a state where they where they want to come,
you know, roads or something. I don't believe anybody's ever
going to be completely happy with because it's like such
a maintenance item, like as you get one fixed, another
one has a problem. You get one thing done. It's
like at home, right. I'm sure you guys both have
honeyde lists that you seem like you tick three things
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off and three more things come on. But I think
you know what we've done in really putting a focus
on upscaling our bridges so that we're not under load
restrictions like we are making dents in that. And I
think I can look at all the things we've done
our Department of Veterans Affairs right South Carolina, proud military state.
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The governor create that as a cabinet so that we
could now leverage veteran services here in South Carolina. What
a great win, especially when you're talking about workforce, because
we're trying to attackt veterans to our state when they retire,
because we know they're proven, great, reliable employees that have
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already been seasoned for us. So I could kind of
go through and talk about wins in so many areas.
But you I think the secret of being in the
executive branch is you can't focus on just one thing.
You have to be able to walk and shoe gum.
At the same time, when you're in charge of one
thing or you know, kind of like one topic, that's great,
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you can focus solely on that. Any executive, even in
the private sector, will tell you that when you're at
the helm, you got to be able to have great
peripheral vision so that you can figure out how all
these things have to work hand in gloves together. It
can be just one thing because it's an ecosystem and
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it all has to come together for you.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Talking with our Lieutenant Governor Pamela Evatt and uh, you know,
we recently had Joe Wilson in here and he was
talking about some of the power demands that are going
to be coming in the not too distant future as
AI becomes more and more dominant. And you know, if
you look at South Carolina, we've been pretty active when
it comes to nuclear energy. Any any insights as to
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how we can actually grow this even further? Are we
going to continue with nuclear energy? Do you think that
there's going to We're going to build more dams? What
do you how do you see South Carolina becoming a
power player when it comes to AI.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Well, I think first and foremost is this something you
and I have talked about this in the past. I
have really tried to put a big emphasis on this
of the last two years because as a business person,
I can see I mean it again, was one of
those things that when you're sitting in the executive branch,
you need to say I'm looking ten years out, I'm
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looking fifteen years out, because if you're saying I'm looking
three to five years out, you're already looking in the
rearview mirror. And so energy was something that you know,
I identified a long time ago and jumped in kind
of the jumped in feet first or head first. Jumped
in head first on this issue because I wanted to
learn more about it and I and it was about
getting baseload up right. So I sat with Keller at Dominion,
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and I've been out to Sancy Cooper, and I've been
with Jimmy and have looked at their control centers, and
I've been out to Duke Energy, and all of them
share the same thing, like, if we want to really
make a dent, we have to get base load up
because we have to make sure we handle the day
to day needs, and we have to look at dispatchable energy,
and you know, it was something that took a long
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time this session, and I was kind of making light
in a great way calling it our big, beautiful energy
Bill here in South Carolina because it paved the way
for both those things I think we need to put.
You know, we need to look at things that make
good sense for South Carolina when it keeps our energy flowing.
And so the resurrection of VC summer that nuclear energy
(26:10):
becomes a base load enhancer and so you know, getting
that project, you know, re energized, making sure that we're
upping our baseload on that. And then the other part
of that bill taking one of our coal fuel plants
and turning it into a natural gas plant that's dispatchable energy.
(26:30):
That's what gets us through those peak times when it's
really cold or it's really hot, when we have those spikes,
and so that bill took care of a lot of
that for us. That's how we look ahead to continue
to grow. And you're right, South Carolina needs the way
leads the way, and we have to lead the way.
And that's the way we have to legislate by thinking,
(26:53):
if we're going to keep growing, the careers of the
future are going to be energy users. We have to
make sure that we're ready for that, and so energy
becomes a huge part of this.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Well, I know you've got a very busy day schedule
for today, and one of the things that one of
do is thank you for spending so much time with us.
I know it's one of the few opportunities when you
use talk radio to be able to have an elongated
conversation as opposed to ninety seconds in a debate stage,
which is where most South Carolinians are going to hear
you speak, and unfortunately a lot of them are not
going to get the elongated answers. But hopefully we'll have
(27:25):
an opportunity to speak with you again as we get
closer to the governor's race, first the Republican primary, and
we'll see who else decides to throw their hat in
the ring.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You could also say, to people who want longer answers,
go check out the rass Thought podcast because all my
answers are there forever.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
That's right, absolutely well, you know, guys, I appreciate and
I've said this over and over, and it's not just
lip service. I've been saying this for seven years. When
I first became Lieutenant governor, I people tell me, why
do you do talk radio? I mean, what a waste
of your time. You know, they only grab a certain
amount of people, and I never believe that to be true.
(28:03):
I have always believed exactly what you just said. I
want people to hear from me direct and not a
thirty second clip where the meaning can get you know,
skewed or could be taken a number of ways. And
so I appreciate what y'all do, and I appreciate the
fact that you have me on every month and we
talk about topics and conversations that South Carolinians are vested in, right.
(28:27):
I mean, they're putting there, they're raising their families here,
they're growing businesses here. They want to make sure that
they're putting people in office that have the resume to
do the job. And I believe that that's becoming more
and more important to voters. And we talked about that.
What a few months ago, why you thought people didn't
(28:47):
really want to get out and vote? You know, why
the decline. I think it's because they were getting disenchanted.
But I think when you can show a solid resume
that listen, my resume shows that I am more than
able to do this job. I think it will energize
people to want to get out and make the right choices.
(29:07):
And they hear those things when I go on talk radio,
and I would like to say, you guys, you know,
loyal only to you. I only go on your show.
But I've been doing talk radio every week all across
the state for seven years, and I believe it's how
people gotten to know me. And so I thank you,
thank you for giving me time on your platform to
(29:27):
let people get to know me.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
All Right, Well, we'd love hearing from you. I guess
we'll have you back on next month. And good luck
out there with all those crazy libs at the Lieutenant
Governor's meetings.
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