08 20 25 We talk with Senator Lindsey Graham

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
To the pundits and the critics about what direction the
National Democratic Party needs to go, I say, take a
look at Illinois Democrats. Yes, winning elections US for values
are exactly where they ought to be Kelly Nash.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
But sadly, those same values and policies are what allowed
on a legal migrant with a history of drunk driving
to crash into and kill Darcy Connolly Brunner, the mother
of former w NBA star Sophie Brunner.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
And Kelly Show.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Wow, can I quote a great American? Okay? How long
I must we suffa?

Speaker 5 (00:42):
That's a great South Carolinian, Great South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Jesse Jackson? Where's Jesse? Where's Jesse Jackson? Juniors? What I want?

Speaker 5 (00:50):
Is he still doing time?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
He's still want to party?

Speaker 5 (00:52):
If he's not, he thought he was in prison.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
All right, we're gonna we're gonna get into some of that.
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(01:21):
Americans must be heard from. You know, yesterday we had
an opportunity to have Senator Lindsey Graham inn because we're
going to be on vacation. Nick.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
I don't know that he timed it specifically for that,
but was it works out great for him?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Work out we weren't able to talk to him about
news of the day, which allowed us to talk to
him about things we don't normally talk about.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Yeah, And I think you know what, when it comes
to Lindsay Graham and you as a conservative, you pretty
much already know exactly where he stands when it comes
to the Ukraine, and you see him on Fox News
all the time talking about it, and you hear him
on the radio all the time. So it's a little
different to talk to him about some of the like
why are you running for reelection? And again, how did

(02:01):
you get started on this?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Those types of things, fun questions about behind the scenes.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
With Donald Trump, I actually could talk to him a
lot more.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
I want.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
I'm still wondering how does like the tea time come about?
Who reaches out like can I can I invite him golfing?
Or is it always him inviting you?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Uh? Good? Ques We didn't get a chance to ask that,
but we did get a chance to ask a lot
of fun questions.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's good to be seen. I just went to BUCkies.
So life is good.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Chriss crossing the state. What are you like running for elections?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, that's what they're telling me, trying to stay ahead
of the highway patrol. But have you ever been to BUCkies?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yes? Love it.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
You got to get the brisket I did. You can't
say now. I mean the chipmunk just overwhelmed you whatever
he is. But anyway, great service, good prices, I'm telling it,
like Disneyland and convenience stores.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
And we got more of them coming to stop.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Well, we're trying to get one in Anderson. So I
got a five billion dollars drant because they told me
BUCkies would come, and damn it, they're not coming. So
I'm gonna get my money back.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I got some friends that own that property next to
eighty five and eighty one. They're very excited about the
fact you're gonna help bring a BUCkies there. That's well.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Problem that I think they may have pulled the rug
out from under me. Fat BUCkies does come. I'm gonna
remember this absolutely.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
You made me laugh out loud the other night after
I have a way of that. Yes, it was an
interview I believe was Sean Hannity, and you were saying
that on the way back and the flight back from Anchorage,
isn't that Trump called you and ask if you wanted
to play golf the night.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
I said, like one, where the hell are you? I said,
I'm coming back from I said, when you get back
about three, we'll played eleven. I said, I'm in South Carolina.
I'm tired just watching you do what you do. Let's
take a pass. This guy is amazing. I talked to
him this morning. I don't need alarm. Clock is in
really good spirits, and you know he sizes pooting up

(03:45):
pretty well. I don't know if this will happen or not,
but you can't have peace unless you talk. And at
least we're talking.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Senator Windsey Graham in the studio. I saw the other
night at the Silver Elephant dinner here you held up
the phone. Donald Trump's calling in, and you know gets
the full door.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Can't make this stuff up, can you? So you know
I can get a hold him, for I can get
a hold of y'all. I mean, he is the easiest
guy in town to I couldn't get a hold of
Pompeo one time when his secretary of state. So I
call Trump, were doing as president? What are you doing? Well,
I'm trying to get a hold of Pompey, y'all. I
can't get a hold of him. So I thought i'd
talked you, Well, hang on, I'll call him for you.
After that, I had no problem getting a hold of Pompeia.

(04:20):
So would you ask You.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Have the full backing and have always except for back
when you were running.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Against that when I called him a creek, Yeah, he
gave and all.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
That sort of stuff.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Crazy about then, But you guys have been great friends
ever since. Yeah, And I'm just wondering, like, why do
you think that there's like a certain maybe disconnect between
certain members of MAGA and you Because Trump loves you.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
I think he likes me because I'm helpful to his agenda.
And if you're a MAGA person, this stuff doesn't happen
by talking about it. You actually got to get it
through the Congress. Yes, you can talk about it, yell
about it, wear a hat, but you got to actually
get it through. And what happened with the president. We
found common ground. You know, I ran for president. You
don't remember that, probably because it didn't last long. I remember,

(05:08):
I'm the only guy in my family to get a
T shirt out of the whole deal. So when it
was when it was over for president, t shirt, Yeah,
and I had to buy it myself. So so the
bottom line is, after you know, I lost, he won,
and we had a rough start. Let's just pretty that way.
I didn't like him, and I don't think he particularly
like me. But when he won, he called and said,
you know, I'd like you to help me. I said, okay,

(05:29):
and he says that's it. I said, well, you one,
I lost, and that other way it's supposed to work.
He said, yeah, that's why it's supposed to work. I said,
what do you want to do? So let's have lunch.
So I went over and we had lunch and they're
right outside the Oval office. And he couldn't have been
more gracious. And he says, you play golf? I said, yeah, some.
He said, well you want to play absolutely? So we
played golf, just two of us, kind of a cold
day and rainie. He shot even par on the front.

(05:52):
Rules of golf the whole deal. I shot thirty nine,
which was good for me, and lost, and on the
back nine we kind of loosened up. He gave me,
you know, tips on my swing, and then we started
talking about policy and how to you know, get things
to the Congress, who was new. Bottom line, we found
common ground. From that whole experience, I've come to like
him and he likes him.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because we've heard
a lot of people say, or a lot of people suppose,
loyalty is very big for Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Two things are big for Donald Trump. Loyalty, But can
you deliver. There are a lot of people, you know,
always kissing his ass, and that's the way it is
in this business. But at the end of the day,
can you deliver. I think what he sees in me
is a guy he in turned to when times get tough.
I was there with him for two impeachments, right, which
I thought was bs. We have our differences sometimes I

(06:41):
don't agree with him, but when he gets in a
bad spot, which happens being president of the United States,
he says, I'm always there, and I try to be.
I think he was a good president you could talk
about this, playing golf, liking him. He's a lot of fun.
I just admire the fact he was a good president
and without that, it wouldn't be what it is today.
And I think he believes I've been a good senator

(07:02):
and that's the way this thing works.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well. I wanted to follow up on that for a
second because the loyalty thing, we know, but sometimes I
can backfire. Thus Jeff's sessions.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
From my perspective, it is, yeah, loyalty in telling him
what the truth or not inconsistent. Right, If you really
like somebody and you have their best interest at heart,
you need to tell them no, that's not a good idea.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
But on the other side of the coin, are there
people on a do not speak of list.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Hold, Okay, now here's what I'll tell you about President Trump.
He will take disagreement, he will take pushback if he
believes you have his best interest at heart and you're
a competent. So I think I've proved to him. When
the rubber meets the road, I'll be there in his
camp fighting effectively. Kavanaugh, you know that was a moment
where he called me up and said, I think you

(07:48):
just saved this guy, and he's turned out to be
a great justice. So I fought for his guy. I
was the budget chairman and the one big, beautiful bill,
and we talked every night about how to get it through.
You know, we lost one vote. We're picking up a now,
and he's so much better at his job this time
because he understands the system. When I first met him,
you know, he never ran for dog catcher. The guy
got to be president of the United States, and I

(08:09):
think he saw in me. Somebody could at least say,
this is sort of who the key players are.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Lindsey Graham in the studio with Jonathan and Kelly, you
mentioned Kavanaugh, that moment that you had where you said
something to the extent of, I hope to god you
guys never got because this is ridiculous. Was that a
shift for you mentally in the sense that you thought
that you had friends on the other side of the aisle,
but now.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, it was a definite shift strong Thuman voted for
Ginsburg and Hollings voted for Scalia. That's the way it
used to be. Whether you like Scalia Ginsburg can't say
they're not qualified. Once liberal, one's conservative used to be.
You won the ALESSI and got to pick qualified people.
And it started with Bork, Lawrence Thomas, and at crescendo's

(08:52):
here with Kavanaugh. So I'm sitting there and we're talking
about some party in high school that nobody can remember,
and they're going to ruin this guy's life, who is literally,
I think, one of the most decent people I ever met.
I'm known Bred for twenty years and it was just
a bunch of bs. I just got to the point
where enough, I told Senter Gressley, I'm next. He said, no,
you're not. I said, no, I'm next.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Now.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
I looked at them all. I voted for your judges,
not because I would have picked them. I thought they
were qualified. I thought there were decent people. I wouldn't
agree with anything they've done legally, but you know that's
the way it works. You're looking for a fair deal.
Judge Kevin, Oh, you come to the wrong town. I
just went right down the line, looked them all in
the eye and saying, this is ridiculous. You're ruined in

(09:33):
this man's life, putting his family through hell because you
won't power. And God, I hope you never get it.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I'm glad you brought that up because I think one
of the more they're a lot, but one of the
more infamous friendships on the each side of the coin,
Ronald Reagan and tippo'neil. They had a great relationship politically.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
They all started with alcohol, probably the basis of a
lot of good relationships.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
From the outside looking liquor stores, from the outside looking
at it, it seems that that is the piece of the
that's missing.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, there's no commonality because the left has shifted so
far and it seems like the right is finally starting
to wake up a little bit to the fact that
you have to play by the same rules as the left. Yeah,
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
So I think this was pre cable. So I think
there are all kinds of groups telling you what you
can't do and what you shouldn't do. And is twenty
four to seven coverage. You know, everybody's entitled opinion. But
the intensity of the money, the intensity of the scrutiny,
has made it harder to do what those two guys did.
And here's why I like most about Trump. He's the

(10:33):
most accessible president in the history of the presidency. You
literally didn't call him up. Just stay tuned. I think
he'll do some things that need to be done in
a bipartisan fashion down the road. But I've never seen
it quite like this. The hatred of this man is
driving the Democratic Party into a ditch. And it's based
on the hatred of a single person. And what Donald

(10:53):
Trump has been able to do is survive one assault
after another. They've tried to destroy him and his family,
and it pissed me off. And I'm firmly in his camp,
and I think he's a damn good president.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Senator Owinsey Graham here with us on the Jonathan Kelly Show.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
I guess you can't cuss on this show.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Oh yeah, I can call somebody the FCC. I'm ready
to cut it out with Israel, I am. I am
shocked to see where we're at now, where there's so
many people who are like pro Hamas.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Like actively like freaking believe it.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
They're even in Israel. They're protesting themselves.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
So if you don't like the government and Israel, stick around.
It changes about every ninety days. All I can tell
you about Israel is that we have a couple of
things in common, common enemies and common values. It's a
very robust democracy. They change governments a lot, but everybody
around Israel would kill you two if they could. So
every time an Israeli soldier goes and takes one of

(11:48):
these nut jobs down, that's one less to come here
and hurt us. On October the seventh, I thought, this
is the Holocaust coming back, the largest loss of Jewish life,
raping and murdering women and children in front of their parents.
And what a couple of years later, Israel's the bad guy.
So here's where I'm at. I'm a believer, but I

(12:09):
don't go around, you know, wearing it on my sleeve.
But I do believe God blesses those who bless Israel.
We pull plug on Israel, he'll pull the plug on us.
And their fight is our fight. They're not asking him
for soldiers, they need weapons, they need our support, and
I'm here to give it because if they lose, we lose.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
You mentioned a minute ago, people hate Trump so much,
even to their own detriment. Chuck Schumer said the other
night that he's never felt right and walking the streets
of DC.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
He hadn't walked the streets of DC, then, well they
all know he has an I don't think he walks
a lot. He's got like ten guys will gun.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I see you have a small entourage here with yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think they're armed, no ladies, Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
I mean she's got a big person. I'm not going
all out of you, but listen, if you don't think
DC is the most violent place on the planet, you're
not looking at the numbers. And it's a shame. How
do you make America great again if your capitalist the
most islent capital and all the world. So he's right
to do it. I talked to him this morning about that.
He wants to do about a two and a half
billion dollar upgrade. Do the roads, do the mediums. This

(13:09):
guy's a developer. He's talking about how you lay asphalt,
how you do edging on marble. I said, miss President,
I gotta go so, but just tell me what you need.
I'll get you the money. But he's got a goal
to reinvigorate the DC. And if Democrats suppose that they
have lost their mind, you know, the left is different
than it was before. It really is, and it's all

(13:30):
because of Trump. I think. I mean, you get rewarded
on their side for tearing things down, not for building
things up. And Trump whether you like him or not,
He's done things that are just mind blowing in six months,
the most broken border to the most secureboarder, the one
big beautiful bill where you like it or not, we
had like a two vote margin and he got it through.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Like with Senator Lindsay Graham. And you know, I have
to ask you, you're running for reelection again. Yeah, you're
seventy years old.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
I believe yeap, And is I know I'm a little young,
but I'm a little young for the game. In her state,
I would be when I got into office, the average
age of the senator was like eighty eight or ninety,
I can't remember.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
But there was a there still is a kind of
a somewhat famous video of you back around ninety five
as a House member that's kind of remaking the rounds
again where you're saying, I ran on the idea of
putting term limits.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, Stromp taught me out of it.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Is that what happened?

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Well? You know what changed?

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Now, really what changed is like somebody's going to run
the government. It's either elected people or unelected people.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
And if you.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Rotate through too much, then the people run the government
of the permanent staff and you need the staff, but
I don't think they should be the repository of all knowledge.
And Senator Thurmann said, listen, you know, come over here,
let's talk. He said, the people can determine if you
stay or not. But if we all left after twelve years,
then the power center of America would be in the staff,

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not in elected officials. In terms of me, this is
my fifth term. I just took like one to six
years at a time. It's like, you know, a contract.
I'm not entitled this job after earn it every six years.
And I think I bring some things to the table.
I think I know how the world works in terms
of where the dangers are. I think I know where
our friends are, like Israel. I know what our enemies

(15:17):
would do to us if they could get here. I
think I have a pretty good understanding what the military needs.
And when it comes to home, I try to take
care of my backyard. Pack it. You know, they lost
all their cops because they hated the mayor, and they
got some people come back to be cops, and they
didn't have a police car, so we got them a
police car. You know, at the Port of Charleston's the
crown jewel of our entire economy. It's the deepest port

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on the East coast, forty six feet to fifty two feet.
Took longer than building the Panama Canal, but we got
it done. And things like that kind of motivate me.
I want to help my backyard, but I think I
got something to offer. I think I'm in a good
spot to help the state. If I win and we
keep the Senate, I'll be Judiciary chairman again, and I
can promise you conservative judges.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
A lot of South Carolina's appreciated your positions, and as
you say, it seems like it depends on the news
cycle of the day whether they love.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
I am definitely that kind of guy in the sense
that I'm doing something like one day and maybe not
the next. But I just want you to know from
my point of view, it makes sense to me both times. Okay,
So I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't think
it was in the best interest, and sometimes that I'd
be wrong like anybody else. But the one thing I
would say that I try to be relevant. So when
you got a Democratic president, I'd like to work with

(16:27):
him if I can. You know, we got one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars to keep the port work study
going because I helped Harry Reid with an airport. There
was no money in Obama's budget for the port. If
we didn't have a dollar for the work study program,
we'd be a decade behind. So that's a time when
it helps to help other people. But I do fight.
So the bottom line is I want to be relevant

(16:48):
for the times in which we live. I'll fight Obama,
I'll fight Biden. If I can work with them, I will.
As to President Trump, nobody saw this coming, including me,
but I think I got a front row seat to.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
His you know, speaking to President Trump, a lot of
people that talk about him as a person or an
employee will talk about he knows at the properties. He
knows a lot of the employees. He knows their wife
or their husband's name. He knows their kids' names. And
one of the things that fascinated me was when he
announced that they were going to pave over the grassy
area in the Rose Garden. His suggestion was based on

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a lot of the women are complaining that their high
heels would sink into the grass that had rained recently,
And I'm like, this sounds like something that I would
have only picked up on if I were near the
water cooler in the break room. I mean, couldn't be
an agenda item. We walk into the oval office and say, hey, sir,
women are complaining. That had to be something that he
overheard or heard or had a conversation about.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
You know, some people can have golf ball a long way.
Some people and hit a baseball. Some people know people.
He called us morning, I'm going good. How you doing?
He just was on Fogs and friends. Yeah, I saw
that you're a great campaign and we'll get you down here.
And he said, I need you to get me some
money for DC. We can fix the roads and you

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don't have to tear the roads up. A lot of
people do that. Then they'll find concrete from the Civil
War and they stop. So all you got to do
is just add a two inch layer. I said, where
did you learn all this? Trap?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
My dad?

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Then somehow we started talking about cracks in marble, and
he says, you know, what do you do with the
crack in marble? I said, I have no idea. You
do not not take a trial and smear stuff. There's
a crack on a sidewalk. My dad would yell at
anybody that took a trial out and just smeared over,
because now you got.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
A scar, not a crack.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
So you get out on your hands and knees and
you dab it in so there'll be no evidence of
the crack. The detail. When we play golf, he watches
how the hedges look. He knows people. How do you
go from never being in office to President of the
United States? You know how to talk to people now

(18:49):
when you go to those golf courses, it's the same
people been there for decades. Like Rosie, I know them all,
but now all of his golf pros they're very low
to him because he's loyal to them.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
I know we got to let you go, but it's
been awesome seeing you again, Senator. We should come back
more often.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah, I know I need to. If the world would
stop blowing up, it'd be a little easier. But you know, guys,
I don't know how long we've been doing this, but
I like this job more today than I've ever enjoyed it,
simply because I think I have more influence in the Senate.
What I like about senates not how smart you ours,
just can you outlive everybody? Do your rights, how.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
You get hit.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
So far, I've been able to outlive a lot of
people to my right. Oh, I think I've learned a
few things along the way. Well, God bless. I think
we have a hell of a three and a half
years coming and I look forward to being part of it.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Next time we talk, I want to talk more specifically
about timely events. Thank you for coming to see us today. Yeah,
we have a lot of big challenges coming up with
the make terms.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
We have come in a couple of weeks about it.
About Russia, we'll know about two weeks if this is
going to happen or not.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
We'd love to thank you, sir.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Right, take care guys.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Now we do have a few more minutes we can talk.
And it was did you see the Mariachi band press
conference yesterday?

Speaker 5 (20:00):
I missed it?

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Oh that woman, Now I got to tell you something.
I thought she did a pretty good song with a
pretty good job with the song. I don't know what
she was singing, but it was good. Well, and you
don't know too, because I remember I was telling you
I had a friend who is from Mexico and I
was commenting on a work site because he was at
the work site that there was this music playing in
the background. I said, man, I'll tell you one thing

(20:22):
about working with Hispanics is that you guys have like
fun music. I mean, I don't know what this guy's
singing about, but he's having a good time. And he
said he's laughed. He said, this song is about a
man who's lost his wife. He's very depressed. I'm like, well,
why is it so uplifting with the music of the

(20:43):
Da Da Da Da d da da. It always kind
of sounds the same. It's always uplifting. And you know,
I had no idea this guy was singing about a crisis. Okay,
well whatever. Anyway, so we had the mariachi band yesterday.
Governor Prisker got Illinois values. That's what he's going to
run on for president. Good luck with that.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Well, it's interesting that the you know, when you talk
about politics, I saw Donald Trump wants to close he
wants to force South Carolina to have closed primaries and
other states that still allow these open primaries. But when
you're talking about a primary, usually the furthest to the
right or to the left wins and then they've got
a tack back. So if you're trying to run for

(21:26):
a national office, say, or even look New York City mayor,
the New York City mayor, Mam Donnie. There are now
people in the Democrat Party talking about taking away the
speakership from Hakim Jeffries because he has not yet endorsed Mamdannie.
And uh, think about this, Hakeem Jeffries is not liberal

(21:47):
enough for you because he is not signed off on
a socialist yet. And that's just the insanity of the
American political system. It's also the brilliance of the American
political system. But you got to get through the primaries,
and in order to survive a primary on the left
right now, you have to swear an oath that you

(22:08):
hate Donald Trump and anything he does. And you also
have to swear an oath to go as far to
the left as possible. I'm all socialist. I want transgendered kids,
you know, having intimate relations in the hallways at the
middle school. I mean, that's the kind of lunacy that
you have to have in order to win your primaries.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
You know. The amazing thing. And I want to see
a study from a political scientist, because a lot of
people think that political science degree in college is kind
of like Pe, but it's not. I mean, there is
a deep science to politics. So we go through the
jungle primary, as they called it in New York City. So,

(22:48):
but the whole argument prior to New York City was
that the jungle primary is going to cut out the
extremes on the far left in the far right because
those people aren't going to be able to The person
who ends up winning is going to be someone along
in the middle. And we've seen studies about how people
correlated that to a steak sauce study that was done

(23:08):
at the grocery store. So you never really get the
brand you want. You end up getting a lesser than brand.
But because it was not as outspoken left or right
or not in that case outbranded or advertised it advertised,
then you get you get a more moderate candidate, which
is what the jungle primary is supposed to bring us. Well,

(23:29):
New York just blew that theory right out of the
damn water.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Is that how I'm Donnie won? Well, I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, that was a jungle primary.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
I mean he's just overwhelmingly popular. And I saw a
lady on MSNBC last night and she was making the
point Mom Donnie did not win this primary because or
in spite of the fact that he's pro Palestine. That
is the number one issue that Democrat voters. And she said,
look at it, he got the number one Jewish vote.

(23:57):
They said, their number one thing is bring down Israel.
The Jews of New York want to bring down Israel.
That's where they're at. And you can see how we
come out of this. As we heard on you know
the podcast earlier when we were talking to the Senator
Lindsay Graham in right now, in Israel, there are massive
protests against Israel. They're pro Palestine. This is an incredible thing.

(24:21):
They're calling for their own deaths.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Fascinating. And now when you go into the election, it's
not going to be it will be a regular election.
It'll be two choices. It'll be this candidate or that candidate.
So now it's going to be interesting to see. And
you've got Quoma now pushing for the Trump pop so
it's going to be interesting to see. I can't imagine
Cuomo would be a to overcome a lot of the

(24:43):
baggage he's had before, and some of his marketing stuff
thus far has been like really lame, particularly when you
talk about the influx of the impact of the youth vote.
History means nothing to them. So the fact that your
dad was a high ranking New York official and your
grandfather none of that matters, you know, is fascinating. Even

(25:04):
in marketing products. Let's go back to the steak sauce
for a second here. The new generation has absolutely the
younger generations have absolutely no loyalty to product brand based
on anything you've done in the past. It's all kind
of like a Wall Street ninety day report. What have
you done for me in the past ninety days? What
have you done for me in the past fifteen minutes

(25:24):
if you work in corporate America, which is where we
are now. But it's going to be interesting when we
get down to the final election in New York City
because that will be judged and graded and voted totally
different than the primaries that brought us Mandami.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Well, again, I'm not sure how he got through a
jungle primary. If that's what they run up there, it
would seem that he would have been kind of eliminated.
But if he won a jungle primary, then it's overwhelming.
I mean that the whoever participated in that jungle primary.
They're all left, I mean as far left as you

(26:01):
can get, because he did. He's not hiding from Like
when you saw those campaign ads that they almost looked
like they were a joke, the ones that were he
was running three four months ago, where he's talking about
uh free buses, uh free grocery stores, and they looked
like like something that a right winger would make to
parody what they would want. But that's what he really

(26:23):
ran on. We are going to tax there's nobody's.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Going to be a billionaire.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Every billionaire, I will tax them down to millionaire status.
We're just going to seize their wealth. Oh my gosh,
I love it.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
I love it. I think the end result in the study,
I'm just gonna venture a guess here because I'm not
a political scientist. I think the end result in the
study is gonna be You're gonna end up coming to
the bottom line conclusion that this was a barometer check
on it exactly. Not how stupid because American people aren't stupid.
People aren't stupid, Uh, they're just ignorant. So is how

(26:58):
ignorant the New York voters. Because you've even got people
like they're talking about how you really ought to be
afraid of socialism because they came here from a socialist country.
And furthermore, to your point of Mandami's marketing is that
we we know he will openly admit the man is
not like from rags to riches story. I mean, he

(27:21):
came from riches. He's never had a job. He's never
had a job. He came from riches. He's living in
a rent controlled apartment. So he's actually displaced someone who
should be benefiting from New York's own implemented rent control
by somehow getting using his influence or his stature or
whatever his connections to get into a rent controlled apartment.

(27:41):
So he could kind of like be a common man,
I guess, but he's plainly anything. But so it's going
to be interesting to see. I think the end result
is going to be, this is how ignorant the American
people are now because of our own public education system.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Well it's the left. I mean, if you look at
like Donald Trump and the marketing against Donald Trump since
twenty fifteen and for all, actually shouldn't say twenty fifteen,
because twenty fifteen he was just considered a joke. He
was a caricature. It was twenty sixteen when things started
getting real and he started winning primaries, that they then
started comparing him to Hitler. And so, if you're a

(28:15):
Democrat at heart, you follow the liberal media, and you
believe the liberal media, and you believe what you're you know,
you believe what Nancy Pelosi says and those types of people,
then you believe that you're actually in a war against
the next Hitler, and so you have to stop him
at all costs. And the frustration level that they're feeling

(28:39):
is becoming like they are bewildered, like when we're bewildered,
like women, Jews for Palestine, we're bewildered, Queers for Palestine,
We're bewildered. Their's for KFC, They're bewildered, Like anybody would
vote for Donald Trump because Donald Trump has told you
I want to kill all black people. He's on the record,
isn't he. I've heard him say it. I thought I

(29:00):
heard him say all blacks should either be murdered, enslaved,
or just removed from the country. And why would you
vote for that? And why don't you like people who
are here to help us, Why are you so and
why do you think that everybody in the military is
a sucker and a loser, because that's who Donald Trump is.
And so when we look at that and say, boy,

(29:20):
they've been no wonder they're so frustrated because they see
their like the reason they want to remove Hakeem Jeffries
now a legitimate move to remove him is now begun
because he said in the last week in a podcast
that he thought that Donald Trump had a strongly worded letter,
and I admired the strength of his letter. However he

(29:43):
based it on, you know, factually incorrect data or something
like that. He uttered one almost compliment to Donald Trump,
and they and they can't tolerate it. They want him gone.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Now. I had an interesting collation of information and through
an entertainment escape route that Sally's got me on right now,
away from the news because I'm watching the news. And
then she says, Okay, I'm ready to watch my show,
and we're watching a show called The Paradise. I don't
know if you've seen this or heard about it. The
Paradise well written show, I thought for the first six

(30:20):
seven episodes. Then I think they started ordering it down
so they could milk out another season out of it,
which they're doing. But there's a character of the show
who I really like called Jonas, and Jonas is like
he's like the shop inspector. He's always just taking care.
He's a very observant. His job is just to make

(30:42):
sure that he picks up on any problems with the
staff of the store, and YadA YadA. And he's having
a conversation with someone about how to manage the staff
and he says they're very loyal and credulous. And this
I happened to see that scene right after I've been
watching the news about the Democrats, and that is exactly

(31:04):
what the Democrat Party is right now. Very loyal, incredulous.
They are so quick to jump on anything that A
denouncesis Trump or B just props up their argument, no
matter how stupid it is. Very credulous. We'll sing along
with the Mariachi band. We will actually support the young
guad American. You know, We'll do anything that we have

(31:27):
to do to show support. We'll show up, We'll get paid,
but we'll show show up to boo at least Stefanic
in New York. Whatever we got to do to make
sure that we get our team number one, because our
team is what we're here for.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Well, they would say that their team USA that again,
in their minds what they're fighting for, like when they
say we're fighting for democracy. They believe that Donald Trump
is about to outlaw all elections, that he will be
the king in reign forever. I'm looking at now the
jungle primary that you referenced. So Mom Donnie was going
to win this thing no matter what. So there was

(32:01):
three real candidates. I mean, there's like fifteen people in
the race, but there was three real candidates, mam Donni, Cuomo,
and Lander. With the three the first round, Mam Donnie
got four hundred and sixty nine thousand, six hundred forty
two votes. They go to the second round, they've eliminated
like one or two people. He gets four hundred sixty

(32:23):
nine thousand, seven hundred and fifty five votes. He got
the exact same amount. Then they've eliminated everybody but Cuomo.
The guy Brad Lander who had been in third, he
started at one hundred and twenty thousand. He got one
hundred and twenty thousand and the third his people broke
for Mom Donni. So in the final round, the third
and final round, Mamdnni goes four sixty nine, four to

(32:45):
sixty nine five seventy three. Cuomo went three eighty seven,
three eighty seven, four to forty three. So Mam Donnie
was always Mam Donnie's got forty three percent locked on
his Sideomo has about thirty five percent locked, and the
rest of them break Mam Donnie's way. So if it's

(33:10):
a toss up between Cuomo and Mom Donnie, it's obviously
going to be Mom Donnie because he picked up an
extra one hundred thousand votes as opposed to Cuomo, who
only picked up an extra eighty thousand. So the people
who are on the fence in New York want more socialism,
not less.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I think our friend Chuck Todd will have to adjust
his If I were a young political reporter looking to
make a name for myself, I would move immediately to
South Carolina. I think you need to move to New York.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Well, there's definitely going to be a lot of a
lot of eyeballs on New York City this mayoral season.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Absolutely all right, Well, we're out of town for the day. Tomorrow,
we're going to have an opport. We got a new
savior here in South Carolina. His name is David Pascal.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
He's gonna save us from what, gonna save.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Us from corruption?

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Oh, he's the new sheriff.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
He wants to be the new sheriff. I can't wait
to read this article about him. I just clicked on
the headline. A minute to go on the posting couriers.
We get to talk about that tomorrow and some other
things coming down as we get ready for what's going
to be a vacation week for us. That's right, thanks
again to Senator Lindsay. His name is Senator Lindsey Graham.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
I wonder if we'll revive that commercial.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I don't think he picked up on it yesterday when
I said

Speaker 5 (34:31):
That, No, no, that was he ran that commercial like
six years ago.