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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show. That was the il lt
go ov the Illinois Lieutenant Governor. I don't know her name,
don't care her name. Her message is loud and clear.
I fear.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I feel like she feels like everybody's stupid. Though. She
has to slow talk everything, and there will be a
red button.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yes, I got something to say, slowly for you. Listen
to any town hall in your own state and in
particular your city, because the last thing you need to
do is leave your office and go to your home.
People are going to beat the hell out of you
in the street. The citizens of South Central but also
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the citizens of Illinois, I believe have already come to
a fever pitch. Nobody on the streets of Illinois, and
any interview you here are talking about they're afraid that
Donald Trump is trampling the rights of illegal immigrants, and
apparently they've set up an entire web page to direct
what I hope Prince K is already set up as
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an entire state funded agency to make sure that illegal
immigrants are able to hide, and I guess they will
continue to live in the shadows. So you want to
live in the shadows in Illinois? You want to continue
to get paid lesser wages by unscrupulous business owners who
pay you in cash under the table half the amount
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owed or regularly earned. Do you want to do? You want?
They've set up an entire state agency to facilitate this
illegal activity while they claim that they are there and
they will call them Chicagoans and Illinoisans to defend their country.
So basically, you want the illegal immigrants to defend the
country they're not citizens of, because I don't see the
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citizens standing up behind you on this.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, they're not Chicagoans. So we want we want the
Chicagoans to defend for the illegals. Yes, yeah, so we
don't expect the illegals to do anything.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I didn't hear a lot of money. I did hear
a lot of hell yeahs. beIN back to the Mayor
of Chicago yesterday as he was asking, are you ready
to rumble to defend this city, to defend our homeland?
I didn't hear a whole lot of response from the crowd.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, look, I think they're not done brainwashing you yet.
So it's still early in the brainwashing process where they've
got to get you to understand that when you see
law enforcement, whether it's the National Guard or it's a
police officer or a state police officer, whatever, that that
is a threat to democracy. Like who was it? Was
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it Al Sharpton. I'm trying to remember who was saying it,
and I just remember thinking the audacity, So they were saying,
maybe it was Gavin Newsom. The if you don't think
that Donald Trump is here to steal the next election,
do you really believe that Donald Trump doesn't already in
his mind have National guardsmen at all the polling stations
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where Democrats are in order to scare off the Democrats,
Like there's some sort of like underlying threat that if
you try to vote while being black, the National Guard
is trained to shoot you.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
The American people are not stupid enough not to realize that.
In fact, if there is and they know there is
a plan to steal the next election, it's not set
up by the Republicans who penalized Colorado yesterday for allowing
mail and voted. That's why you didn't get Rocket City.
But it's not that the Republicans are planning it. The
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Democrats have not only planned it, but I can tell
you based on their words that they spout not only
from Chicago and Illinois, but across DC and across their
entire political platform, from all fifty states. They know they've
already stolen the next election. If that were not true,
they know that at some point they would have to
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start supporting American citizens, But they are plainly supporting only
illegal immigrants and criminals, and in doing so, they don't
have to worry about risking losing the vote because the
fix is already in. That would be my suspicion they've
already figured out a way to steal the next election,
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just based on the people that they are supporting daily
from podiums and on state agencies designed to help persons
who are illegal gain their legality after the next election
and then actually become part of the voting process. That way,
they don't have to worry about pulling a rabbit out
of the hat twice.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
You know, the idea that we need mail in votes,
drop off ballot boxes, and all this crap that came
around during COVID. You know, I just thought it would
be fun to go ahead and take a look at
presidential election turnouts. Okay, so I'm going back to nineteen eighty.
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Nineteen eighty, we had fifty five point one percent of
the people who could vote actually voted. Fifty five point
one in nineteen eighty, fifty four the next year, fifty one,
the next year fifty six, the next year only forty
nine for Bill Clinton's second election. They really did. America
was not too turned on by Bill, but they also
like Bob Dole fifty two in two thousand, fifty six,
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fifty eight, fifty four, fifty five. Now you get the
voter ballot mail ins, what happens. Sixty two percent, the
highest voter turnout in history. You're telling me that when
you got the ballot boxes, the highest voter turnout in
history was for one Joseph R.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Biden.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
That's what motivated that that record, and then what happened
the next election in twenty twenty four, we're back to
fifty eight percent. We're back to what we always were.
We've given you all these opportunities now, and we only
got fifty eight percent of the elect people voted. That
is inconceivable because is you're pushed to make voting the
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easiest thing on earth? I mean, might as well just
send a text At this point, we just say actual.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Tax text message would be more secure because that had
to come from your phone as opposed to coming from
people who were standing there filling out stacks of ballots
in a van outside of a precinct in Philadelphia, and
we know that happened.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
It's unbelievable how they act as if making voting the
easiest thing ever is somehow more patriotic or what when
you know people demand it to be a national holiday.
If look, if you're going to make me go, I
need the whole day off? Why why why do you
need the whole day off? Does it take you all
day to vote? Is it an all day event or.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Do you live in Richland County? The answer maybe yes.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That was one time twenty It wasn't even in a
presidential election. It was twenty fourteen. Wasn't it, or maybe
it was twenty twelve. I forget. But again, this idea
that it's somehow unpatriotic to make you go down and
fill out a ballot is asinine. And look, do I
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agree that maybe the elderly should get some special exemptions
and that they can do amount. Sure, if you're older
than say seventy, or if you get some sort of
medical conditions and advance, you can apply for it. You
can mail in a letter that says I would like
this ballot mail to my home so I can return
it because I am house bound. Okay, But because you're
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not going to hack an election by having you know,
ten thought, well, maybe you would. No, No, you wouldn't,
because the federal government is the one that sends ten thousand,
you know irs return checks to the same address. But
at the local election, the Richland County election, even.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
With the number of retirees in the state of South
Carolina and growing quickly, it would not determine the outcome
of the election. And yes, there is an availability for
you to vote early if you're a senior, and you
can use an absentee ballot if you're a senior. I
know that because my Mom and Dad always voted in
person early until they were unable to, and then they
use the absentee ballot.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
So there's the elections were far more secure, leading even
the hanging Chad's debacle of two thousand was a better
election than what we've had the last few years.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yes, so, but you're right when you mentioned that, it's
funny that if you could text in your vote that
would be so much more secure, because no American, even
according to some of our spouses we've talked to married
people's spouses, no American will share their pass code for
the someone else to text for them.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But I don't know, because there's some sort of program
that people use where they can.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, they can mock your phone number.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah, they mirror your phone number. And so I've called myself.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
You're right, that would be that would be treacherous, but
you know, And but the point is, as we mentioned
it before, you and Donald Trump even mentioned it again.
If you are, if you're Reverend now Sharpton, you claim
it's racist to make people show their identity or confirm
their identity in order to vote. Furthermore, you're a racist
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if you don't allow them to mail in their vote
when plainly, and we've seen it more than just the
state of South Carolina, because you don't have identification. Governor
Nicky Haley put the call out you need identification, the
state will provide you one free if you don't have
a driver's license a picture IDs so you can vote.
We'll send a car to your home and pick you
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up and drive you to the nearest I think it
was the DMV that created the IDs, the picture IDs,
and I maybe you corrected me on this number. I
thought the total number of people that took advantage of
that personalized service was a grand total of nine.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
I can't believe it would even be that high.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I think it was nine people who called the number
because they did not have the availability of a picture
I D. Now I know a person who at the
time did not have a driver's license or an official
state recognized picture id D, and I know that she
was facilitated by a church member, so I know there
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were other ways to get it even prior to the
governor's availability. Let's see.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I know that it was offered in twenty eleven. Governor
Haley's invitation on Wednesday to voters we lack photo ID
to vote in South Carolina's new law echoed a rental
car slogan, We're picking you up. Anybody can call eight
five to five State ID by five pm on September
twenty second, and we will send a car for you.
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Democratic Party Chairperson Dick Carputlian said, quote, this is a
very lame attempt to quiet the critics. It's ridiculous one
day to get this done for one hundred and seventy
eight thousand South Carolinians. Is not only dishonest, it's cruel.
It's a useless gesture. It's not even a good pr stunt. Again,
Dick Carputlian.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
If you can't agree that you need to be able
to identify who you are in order to vote, if
that's that's the baseline of the conversation, and if Dick
Carputlian can't agree that you have to identify who you
are in order to cast your vote in a I
don't give a damn if it's for a federal a state,
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a county, a municipality, or for a committee member at
your church. If you if you can't produce, without objection,
any type of identification to prove that you are who
you are, then we have no further conversations on this
matter that are going to be fruitful. There is no
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way we're ever going to bridge this divide. So it's
not going to be bridged. You just have to fight
against it. Now. If Harpootlian and the Democrats and Pritzker
and whoever else wants to join in on that, you're
a racist. If you ask me to show your card.
And though there are a thousand different stories we could
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get in through, all of them are funny. But if
you can't, if you can't bridge that gap, then somebody's
going to have to win this battle by using every
availability of the federal, the state, the court system, and
any other application to make sure that you are in
fact pushing and away Republicans, Conservatives, independence, and just common
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sense folk, that your elections are not going to be
easily manipulated, because we already have enough video evidence and
or anecdotal testimony from the debacle that led to Joseph R. Biden,
for God's sake, being the most elected, the most voted
for president in the history of our country.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well, and you know, my son is autistic, and he
works at like fast food restaurants, and he needs a
new job, right now and so the other day when
you went to apply for a job, the people rejected
his application because his town ID because he'll never be
able to drive. But his town ID was outdated. So
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we had to go to DMV to get a new
town ID. That costs two dollars for five years. I
think it's five years.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
It might even know.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I think it's eight years. That's right, because I said,
you'll be forty the next time. You have to get
one of these so for two dollars in order to
get a town ID in order to get a job.
So you're saying that no black people have jobs. They
don't work because you need an ID to have a job.
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That's the that's where the Democrats are. Nobody works, they're
incapable of going to DMV and getting an ID.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And I had this conversation about a month ago with
somebody and I said, you got an Obama phone because
everybody gets no Obama phone.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
That's the old statement.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
The way you got an the Obama phone is if you,
according to the woman on the street I believe in Chicago,
if you are signed up for Medicaid, Medicare, disability, in
any any government program, government program, you're automatically qualified because
you're in the system. Yes, so that's how you got
an Obama phone.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
So you have some sort of identification, Yes, you can vote. Yeah,
that's that's that would be. I mean, the argument is
so asinine you can't even try. Like, I'm great at
playing Devil's advocate, but I cannot. You're telling me that
they don't have a Social Security card, that they don't
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have a photo ID, that they don't have a driver's license,
that at no point in the last how many every
years they've been on the earth, because they had to
be at least eighteen of them, that at no point
have they ever had to prove who they are, and
that by attempting to force them to prove who they
are is racist. That is such an insult to a
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certain race. Yes, because you're not saying white people can't
figure it out. You're saying black people. Black people are
unable to figure out how to navigate the very difficult
system of getting an ID. They can't figure it out.
And yet it's so important that the people who cannot
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figure out how to get an ID, it's very important
that they pick the leaders of the nation. Get the
flip out of here.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's right. We cannot move forward as a nation if
we do not have the vote of these people.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
And by the way, the offer still stands in South Carolina.
If you need a ride, they offer it. Oh, it's
still there, still there. So far, according to AI in
a twenty twenty two post, less than twenty five South
Carolinians at this point have taken advantage of that offer
that's been standing there since twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That's classic.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
So we get about one or two a year.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yes, so it's hysterical that remember Joseph R. Biden? I say,
do you remember? That's not I'm not asking us Joseph R.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Remember Joseph R.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
That's what I'm saying. That's not a stupid question, No,
a rhctorical question. I'm asking you a legitimate question. Do
you remember Joseph R. Biden? Now, do you remember how
often he had a press conference?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Never?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Do you remember how often he would be seen.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
In public only when he was like a high stepping
across the front lawn there.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Do you remember going for days without every wondering, I
wonder what Joseph R. Biden's doing today? Well, I just
assumed he was sleeping. Yes, So on top of the
fact that Donald Trump apparently was not seen for a
day and a half over the Labor Day weekend. Did
we not invite the press to the golf outing? Did
we not have it? Did we not have it? Was
the press taking the holiday off or Labor Day?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Well, he was also active on truth so during that period.
But the rumor was that was bots.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yes, so the rumor was he was dead. Now. I
don't know if you've seen this. Yesterday they had the
big press conference and everybody was waiting with beta breath
to find out exactly what the big announcement was. That's
when we found out the Rocket City was going to
be actually in Huntsville, Alabama. Other states and I'm assuming
South Carolina throwing our hat.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
He didn't mention the other five states, but he did
say there was four or five others really wanted it.
Alabama proved they wanted it more.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
So yesterday, and I didn't. I just saw it after
it began, so I didn't realize that this was something
that we normally would have television coverage on. Usually when
you see the the press pool camera set up in
like the White House briefing room, Yes, we're waiting on
Catherine Levitt or KJP or whoever to come out. But
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you see the still shot, okay, and the announcers are
or the broadcasters are speaking while they are monitoring, because
they're going to get some conversation as opposed to just
dead air while we wait on the person to walk
to the podium. But because we did not see Donald
Trump walk to the podium yesterday in the Oval office,
there's great debate of whether he can actually walk from
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the resolute desk over to the podium. Because we didn't
see him.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Walk, we got an FDR on our hands, and they
love FDR. So I guess if Donald Trump had polio
and was unable to walk, that would still be a
great thing.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
But Joseph or Biden could not have recognized the difference
between the resolute desk and the podium, so he wouldn't
know which one he was at at the time.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
He might have started snacking on it. You know, did
you hear the comments of one tamp on? Tim tamp On,
Tim made a haha the other day, Oh yeah, gonna
be some news. Yeah there's yeah, No, you all thought
there was going to be some news. We were hopeful
for the news over the weekend, but anyway, that news
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will be coming. So Tim is talking about again the
left wing media or social media, not the left wing media.
The left wing social media was speculating that Donald Trump
was dead because they hadn't seen him in like forty
eight hours, and Tim Walls was celebrating the fact that
he might be dead and then went on to promise
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that news is coming soon.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yes he did.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
So are you is that an assassination attempt him?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Are you part of the conspiracy? Did the conspiracy go south?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Would let me ask you this, if we were to
celebrate on the right the passing of any former or
current left wing politician, would we not be labeled as monsters?
Oh totally, And I would say rightfully.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
When somebody dies, is not the time to then pull
out all of the reasons, all your grievances as to
why you hated them as a politician. What the destruction
you thought they commit, you know they did to the country,
the destruction they did to the company you work for,
or whatever. You just say, you know what, thoughts and
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prayers for their family?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Do I have a six pack of Billy Beer still
waiting in the back of the Myrifage to each of
them with a name on it, so that I can quietly,
in the comfort and the privacy of my own home.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
You still have a c I figured by now, with
the passing of one Ted Kennedy, at least one would
have been gone gone.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I still got the can. I put his picture on it.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Jimmy Carter didn't get a bit. Didn't he get one?
He got on to Yeah he got one. Yeah, but
you didn't publicly say anything.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
No. I did it in the privacy of my own home.
Was I able to do that without even uttering another
word to another person? Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Tim Walls is celebrating publicly, giddily the eventual passing of
Donald Trump. Donald Trump will pass everybody dies, so he
is going to die. You're right, Tim.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Now I do not have a beer with Tim Wall's
name on it, but heaven forbid, I don't wish this
on you. But if you pass before Trump, I might
have to.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You know what, I'm gonna go home and put Tim's
name on a hamp on and I'll tinkle on it
when he when he passes.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That's great. Oh all right, So we got Trump is
gonna die, or he is dead, or he can't already
can't walk.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Is that Are we seeing a real Donald Trump? Maybe
that's an Ai Trump.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I know we had a lot of people saying that
Joe Biden had two or three different look alikes, and
they did the picture of the shot behind the ear
for wrinkled and a different different ear lobes. But he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Buddy was with Elon Musk. Elon Musk could have made
a Trump bought by now.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Nobody had that.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And that's why Elon's not attacking Donald Trump anymore because
Donald Trump died six months ago.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Elon is fact behind the monitor right now, That's right,
But no words in the mouth of the Trump bought.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Not only is he stealing your social security information so
he can get your Medicare, he's also programming the program.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Tell me, because I've only seen a social media meme
on this, but tell me that Pam Bondi is investigating
the accumulated wealth of one Elizabeth. Yes, she is a
pure blooded Indian and full standing in her tribe, Elizabeth Warrens.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
It seems like anytime they ask her about something like
that specifically should say I have no comment regarding that. However,
we are looking at all unusual situations regarding congress people.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Elizabeth warrens are I told you it's none of your
damn beeswax?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
How I got that money? Yeah, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Don't worry about that, you know. Can you imagine a
twelve year old with a summer job, okay telling anybody
in a in a federal position or a state position,
because we do have the South Carolina Department revident, let's
talk about your summertime earnings. None of your bees wax.
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Oh wait a minute, now, well, I mean even look at.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Somebody like you and I, I mean, you know, we
don't make me millions, but we make good money, all right.
I'd say we're probably in the upper fifteen percentile of
South Carolinians right now. But if I pulled up to
work tomorrow in a Lamborghini that costs two hundred and
ninety thousand dollars, Somebody's going to ask a question, what
how did you How did you come upon two hundred
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and ninety thousand dollars? And my answer can't be none
of your f business.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I'm glad we brought this up because even if you
pulled up on a twicycle, if somebody from the Department
of Revenue or from the federal Office of the Internal
Revenue Service here in Columbia ask you we need to
talk to you about your finances. The last thing you
say is none of your damn beeswax, oh, because I
am accountable to the government because of my taxes.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
She is the government. I am the government, able by myself.
She is the olive gard. That's just what she told you.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
It's none of your business because I am above, I
am above the law. And matter of fact, I am
within the law because I write the law so that
I'm above the law. This this woman has quickly climbed
into the Ted Kennedy chair of Democrats. I despise most.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I'll put her in the same chair as doctor Fauci.
I am the science, I am the law. The law
is what I say it is.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yes, she is. She She's more bolden about it than
Nancy Pelosi, at least. Nancy Pelosi puts a veil of
her husband.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Paul, very thin, very thin veil.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Very puts a very thin veil. How's the hammer, Paul,
how's your hammer hanging? Paul? Paul?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
You play and hide the hammer again with the homeless.
So she puts a very thin veil. Damn Elizabeth Warren
just told you it's none of your damn bees wax.
Because I am the law she gets a whole case
of beer. I've got to get a larger refrigerator from
from my garage. I am the senior senator from Taxachusetts,
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and I am not going to be lectured to by
some What are you again? A sever Yeah, well let
me ask you, Christy Nome barely a governor, barely because
you were friends of Donald Trump or Pam Bondy. You
barely got to be the age of Florida. You barely
got to be elected into this position by Donald Trump
and his cronies. You don't get to talk to me,
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the law maker. You're not the lawmaker. Pam Bondy, you're
talking to the lawmaker, and you better watch your tone.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That's exactly what she told you. She is, without a doubt,
the most the highest level of all oli gark attitude democrats,
and there are a lot of them out.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
There that have camouvalized Bernie Sanders is an oligarchy.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Oh my gosh, for Pete's sake. Huge, But Elizabeth Warren,
she's all in. She wants you to know I'm all
into doing what I want to do, and I'm the
one that can do it, and I got the power,
So you shut them up. AOC.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yes, AOC is aspiring to oligarchy status as a house member.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
It's hard to be.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
She's got to get that senator title, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I heard it promoted yesterday as a tease on television
to keep me through one of those incredibly long commercial
sets that did nothing but sell pharmaceuticals. Did our girlfriend
from Texas house member Chasmine Crockett gain a different dialect
or that was the.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Big rumor over the weekend. I don't think that it
was a different I think it's more ghetto. She was upset,
apparently or mocking Christian Republicans. I think perhaps, I hate
to say this, I think she might have been talking
about the Republican here from South Carolina because she was saying,
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you know they and let me tell y'all, child, they
talk about their God and their values and they're trying
to make y' all live up to that. And then
what are they doing. They out there cheating on their
wives and then their wives, oh they pissed. They putting
it all update on Facebook and whatnot, talking about it so,
and then a lot of Republicans wanted to have the
fun of the first Jasmine Crockett interview where she was like, Yes,
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when I first came to Austin, Texas, I'd never imagined
that I would be running for an actual house seat.
So I've come a long way in a short period
of time to honey child.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Let me tell you now, I did hear her speaking
of it. It sounds like the same Jasmine Crockett of
all I've learned to dislike so much.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
And I don't know why you were worried about God
so much about people who claim to be Christians. You
live in a place where Jesus can't hear you scream.
That's how far away you are.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
All the good news is she doesn't believe in Jesus.
The fact that your imaginary spaghetti God can't hear me
scream means nothing to me.