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September 6, 2025 • 39 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan rush So, Americans vastly prefer Donald Trump's approach to
crime than they get you to Joe Biden's. And again,
I think it gets back to the point that Americans
are far more hawkish on crime than a lot of Democrats.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Wanted it met Kelly Nash. We cannot incarcerate our weight
out of violence.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
We've already tried that, and we've ended up with the
largest prison population in the world.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
And Kelly Show, Brandon Johnson is becoming my new favorite Democrat. Really,
he just pays off every time he opens his mouth.
We've already tried that, Kelly. Look what happened when we
started prosecuting crime. We have people that determined his criminals
to put him in prison. That's that's a burden on
the taxpayer so much. He's a fiscal Democrat. Hey, this

(00:48):
is Jonathan Rusher's Kelly Nash, good morning. Now we record
this on Friday, so I guess we are. We're broadcasting
on Saturday, but we're recording it before the march on Chicago.
Is that was the history? Will right this down as well?
My understanding. According to JB.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
Pritzker, who I call fa Pritzker, that the the the
troops are arriving now in Chicago today Friday, and that
they are preparing for the battle to begin on Saturday.
It's interesting that when you're about to lay siege to
a city, which is how they're describing this, that you
would call in advance and let him know when you're

(01:25):
going to get there.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
That's an usual strategy.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Cotton. Yeah, maybe they're actually there to try to help Chicago.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Glad to see how that plays out. I did have
a flashback was Jim Hodges, the governor then of the
state of South Carolina, threatened to lay down physically on
the interstate to block radioactive shipments into South Carolina from Georgia. Okay,
what if Pritsker was to lay was to lay down
on the interstate to block the tanks coming into Chicago.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
It's a hell of a speed bump. I'm not sure
that he'd be able to get up. I mean, he
had some sort of construction crew to get him back
on his fee.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I can't wait to see the video on that. Hey,
welcome to it. Now. This Saturday, we have, like Wilson
Wilson Bookends thing going on here.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
So we'll start with Joe, who's going to tell us
what's happening in DC's got a lot of fights going
on up there in the Congress. And then we'll end
the show with Alan, our Attorney General, who's going to
be telling us about some of the lawsuits that we're
launching federally.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
And I guess we're going to have a new lawsuit
after the governor came out with his new snap guidelines
for items that would be exempt from purchase from certain
South Carolinians receiving that benefit.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, he had that press conference on Thursday, so we
weren't able to warn the Attorney general brace yourself incoming lawsuits.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
All right, but we will begin as promised and part
of the Wilson Wilson bookends of the Jonathany Kelly Show.
Right here, Kelly Nash, welcome back in the World Win
Worldwide tour apparently into the studio. Congressman Joe Wilson, morning.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
Thank you so much. It's an honor to be here,
and particularly the past week is so meaningful to me.
I've had the extraordinary opportunity to a company Ambassador Tom Braddock,
who is President Trump's ambassador to TURKEYO but he is
promoting peace in Lebanon and also in Syria, and so
ambassa bradic, consistent, incredible person and I'm just so grateful

(03:16):
to have been with him. And what an amazing opportunity.
We were able to meet with the King of Dellah
on Sunday and then on Tuesday to meet President Alshara
of Syria and Damascus, a very historic trip because that
country has been under Bathists socialist dictatorship since nineteen seventy
and it's making a difference.

Speaker 7 (03:35):
Hey.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
And then we went on to Lebanon, where indeed Ambassador
Barrick whose heritage is Lebanese, and I'm so grateful that
they are working, and we met with President and I
liked him, Joseph On. They are going to by the
end of the year disarm Hissbelah and so Hisbela is
not just a terrorist organization financed by Iran, it also

(03:56):
is a political organization and so they have members of parliament.
So this takes gut on the efforts of what's being done.
So but it was President Trump who set the stage
for all of this. And can you believe our friends
in Germany and NATO now are going to come up
with five percent exactly. I mean, that was just admonished
by MSNBC that Donald Trump claims he has negotiated six

(04:16):
piece agreements when in fact it's only been five. No,
it was five, I know. And ay, last year I
was in the arav on Armenia and I visited where
the Ezrabaizanis had occupied ports of Armenia, and then there
was a murderous removal of Armenians from Nagarden of Korabak,
well out of the blue. Last month, now August, the

(04:37):
President of Azrazhan eliaf met with the Prime Minister of
Pascheon of Armenia in the in the Oval office to
sign an agreement of peace, okay, which time about three
hundred years of wards. And to hey, they were Soviet republics.
Can you imagine how embarrassing that is to work frim Putin,
who his whole dream is to resurrect the failed Soviet Union,

(04:58):
And then that President Donald Trump is there signing agreements.
Are y all aware with the pipeline's name is a
gas pipeline to be supplied to Europe. It's the Trump pipeline.
Oh and hey, it goes with Fort Trump in Poland.
He put American troops for the first timme in history
to South war criminal Putin, and he was successful when

(05:20):
Biden came to power and somewhat indicated total abdication and
surrender in Kabo, Afghanistan. That war criminal Putin invaded Ukraine.
But aside from that, this President, You're right, it's just
five piece agreements.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
We're talking with Congressman Joe Wilson, and yes, you've been
on a world tour helping to spread peace and that's fantastic.
But now you're heading back to d C as we
record this and big week coming up in d C.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Oh to me, it is and I'm really looking forward
amazingly enough to go back and see my colleagues. We've
got wonderful leadership with Mike Johnson, Steve Scalise, Tom Emmer,
and we will be addressing key issues about Chinese communist
influence in our country legislation to try to block that.
And then I'm also really grateful that we've got efforts

(06:05):
at all of the above energy and then exciting to me,
next Monday, I will be actually swearing in the Chairman
of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, David Wright. David is the
former mayor of Irmo, a former member of the State House,
and so David has been on the Nuclear Regulatory Commission
for several years, but now he's going to be chairman,
and now he's going to have power. And the power

(06:28):
is as directed and influenced by Donald Trump to expedite
regulations and to expedite nuclear capability in our country, particularly microactors,
small modular reactors SMRs, and what this can mean for
jobs in South Carolina. I always like to point out
I represent the Savannah Riversite. As we're looking for manufacturing

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capabilities to be developed for small monjuar actors. There's no
better place than the Savannah Riversite, which is very secure.
Think of the jobs that would be created, and then
to create energy independence on all military facilities not be
dependent on anything but a small Manjory actor are a
very important territory of Guam three hours from Shanghai, three
hours from Manila, three hours from Taipei. How important that

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is that.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
On overload GWAM because it Hen Johnson.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
Your friend, my friend Connors from Hank Johnson of Atlanta
has warned it. Indeed, as we move more marines to
Gwam that it could tip over but you'll be happy
to know the Joint chiefs have said verified that GUAM
is secure, but GWAM is not secure for power. And
then earlier this year, I had an opportunity to be
a guest of Jennifer Gonzales Cologne, the new governor of

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Puerto Rico. They need a reliable power system, and so
I just see such good things coming up.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
It seems like one of the most dawning challenges I've
ever read. It's only because maybe I don't understand it,
but when you put it in Layman's terms, the Google
facility in Charleston could not be facilitated with enough power
by the Lake Murray Dam. Incredible. It's amazing how much
electricity we're going to have to generate.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
And Jonathan, please don't accuse me of being there, but
when it was built in the nineteen thirties, it was
the largest hydro electric generation in the world. And so
you're right, it takes power. It's all the above energy.
And I'm so proud of President Trump identifying the green
new scam.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
That's what it was.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
It was a payoff the South Forrest Guide of Houses
to prove it. How do these people make so much money,
and of.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Course it's green new scam. Absolute you for helping out
and doing everything you can to make sure we have
enough energy from Washington, DC's availability in that layer of federalism,
because when you get down to the state of South Carolina,
we're going to be wo We're woefully short now. So
we've got more people coming and more light switches are
going to be flipped, and more air conditioners are going
to be on. We're going to run out of electricity

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and we haven't even talked about the infrastructure of how
to deliver the electricity. We're woefully behind too.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
But the good news, I'm so happy I could let
you know that a Ermese David Wright is going to
be a chairman of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission of the
United States of America, which has been blocking nuclear power.
They when they say regulatory, what they mean is no power. Okay,
it's a French term, no power. No. And so the
good news for all of us we have a president

(09:11):
who believes in all the above energy. I very much
support a VC summer being begun again, and I appreciate
the leadership of Governor Herrit Maaster. He is recruited and
I believe his latest I heard in the last forty
eight hours three different companies are making proposals, not for
Jonathan Kelly to pay for it, but for private companies
to develop what is in place. And then they've actually

(09:35):
people who have who know who visited the VC summer
facility actually say it's been substantially maintained, even vacated. It's
ready to be developed. But anyway, thank you all, and
I appreciate it's talk radio that has revolutionized America. And
as you see, newspapers like the Atlanta Constitution Journal not
even can be published anymore on paper. Okay, god, But

(09:58):
the bottom line, thank you for talk creating. And I
appreciate Jonathan and Kelly and just under to serve the
second district.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Thank you right now that interview, And if you know
Joe Wilson, you would automatically note that interview had to
be edited heavily only because of the time restraints of
this program.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
He he almost missed his flight back. I mean, he
was here a lot longer than I think his staff
thought he was going to be here that morning.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
He got a lot of good stuff out of him,
all right. It was two snaps, a munch of protests,
that'll be coming next week. We'll tell you what the
governor did next.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
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Speaker 8 (10:31):
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There's a red button that says learn your.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Rights, Kelly Nash.

Speaker 8 (10:41):
Also on that page is a red button that says
get legal help. This page has resources for finding representation,
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call the Family Support Network hotline. There are translation services
available and people ready to help.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Again, we're recording this on Friday, so we don't know
how the battle is playing out yet. In Chicago.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
I hope it's going better than it is in Portland, Oregon.
That's an ugly battle.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, we know from the Lieutenant governor that's who you
were hearing a second ago. They're going out of the
way to make sure the information is available online at
all times, with big red buttons you can push on,
because if you're an illegal in Chicago and you need help,
you're going to hit the panic button, the big red button.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
Oh that's paid for by the taxpayers, as are your
legal defenses and all that other stuff.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Oh yeah, but bring it at all. Hey, so welcome
to it. This is Saturday broadcast we recorded on Friday.
We mentioned that several times before one of the things
that happened on Thursday. Here ye hear ye, And here
as President Donald J. Trump established with the executive Order,
Presidents Make America Healthy Again Commission, and in that comes

(11:54):
the SNAP program and the Snap program which has been
highly criticized for many years. And we all know the
evolution of the Snap program food stamps in the YadA,
YadA YadA, it's been abused and quite frankly, there's a
lot of fraud going on in that, but specifically having
to do with the persons who receive the Snap benefit programs.
Here in the state of South Carolina, a lot of

(12:15):
people at the check out line at the grocery store
and maybe I'm wondering how you buying that with a
Snap card. I mean, it's all candy and soft drinks
and stuff. Well, now we have the availability, many states
have done it prior to us. But as the executive
order came down that was signed by Hindri McMaster, we
do have the opportunity now to put some requirements or

(12:35):
say restraints on the products allowed to be purchased with
Snap benefits by the recipients of that program.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
Well, there are going to be requirements, as you mentioned,
at the federal level, they're going to make sure that
you are meeting some work requirements, and you have to
be a citizen. We're taking it away from all the
non citizens. But you mentioned earlier that we're all familiar
with the history of the SNAP program and stuff. I
don't know that I was familiar with this that we
until nineteen thirty nine, there was no availability for anybody

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to get any help with groceries, and so we started
the first food stamp program thanks to the Secretary of
Agriculture in nineteen thirty nine. Listen to this very quick timeline.
The very first recipient was Mabel mcphigin of Rochester, New York,
who received the first food stamps on May sixteenth, nineteen
thirty nine. The first person arrested was grocer Nick Selzano

(13:26):
on October nineteen thirty nine for fraud. It didn't take
long for the corruption to begin, and back then it
was an interesting thing, Jonathan. People who met the you
were under a certain amount of income you could buy
you had to pay for the food stamps. They would
double your money. It was fifty cents for a dollar's
worth of food stamps, and so that was the benefit.

(13:49):
It was not free food. You still had to bring
something to the table, which is how it ran for
forty years in this country.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Now part of that history, that's part of the history.
I did not realize something.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah, and I think that it's a valuable thing to
remember that your ancestors in the forties and fifties and sixties,
we're not getting free food, nor should anybody be getting
free food in America. We should all be working for
our food. Now we're not to the point yet where
we're going that hardcore. We're still going to give away
free food. But Henry McMaster signed an executive order on Thursday, quote,

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if you want to buy any food with your own money,
you can go right ahead. But when it comes to
spending the taxpayers' moneys, there's certain things that you don't
need us to be paying for, and that includes candy, soda,
sweetened beverages, energy drinks. Those are off the table.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I did like the fact that, unlike some states who
just kept it very in nature in the way that
described it, they actually have percentages for the sugar content.
For instance, for me none, or for the drinks that
you mentioned that we're going to be removed extempt or
non exempt. And I did kind of push back a
little bit initially on the sweet tea. I mean, that's
like I no, it's the Pride of the South. It's

(15:00):
also you know, it's the sacument of the Baptist Church.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
But nonetheless, that's funny because McMaster thought at the press
conference that it was not on that list, and then
his spokesperson had to clear it up for him. No, no, no,
that is that's you don't get sweet tea.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
It's too sugary, which tells me there was great debate
over whether we should include sweet tea or not, and
we lost out. My grandmother made it, I can tell
you right now the sugar content, and that was way
over the limit here to be exempt. But nonetheless, we
are trying to help people make better Are we trying
to help them make better decisions? Yes?

Speaker 5 (15:35):
I feel like we're just trying to force you to
actually carry your own weight.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
It's interesting that you mentioned that as part of the
history of this program, because we know or the program
that is snapped. I did not realize that you doubled
your money when you purchase food stamps. That's interesting, but you.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Had to be under a certain requirement in order to
get it. You couldn't even go buy the food stamps
unless you were under a certain amount of money. But
they still expected you to spend your own money on it.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
And that was a huge step because we'd already been
through this whole process, remember the very beginning of the
colonization of this country, and John Smith said, you don't work,
you don't eat well.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
The Bible says the same thing. So for all you
people who are trying to throw Christian values in our
faces and saying that the taxpayer should be paying for
people's food, first off, the Bible says nothing about government
and taxpayers covering anything. It's usually it's an individual doing it.
So if you're asking me, would I offer to pay

(16:30):
for somebody's meal, Absolutely, if I met somebody who I
felt needed a helping hand, needed it, not wanted it.
There's a difference. I meet people all the time who
were literally begging for money outside of stores that are
saying we're hiring, Yes, you want to eat, go in
there and get a job. I'm not giving you anything.

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But to a bigger level, the Bible does say if
a man doesn't work, the man shouldn't eat, and so no, biblically,
you're standing on solid ground.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Well, a conversation, not particularly about snap, with someone who
was talking about helping to facilitate. In this case, they
were helping to facilitate a friend who has a problem,
and they were giving the money, and he said, I
want to be able to make them do something for
the money. He said, I get that because the person
receiving whatever it is you're giving attaches the same value.

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In this case, a money or a dollar sign or
a cent mark attaches the same value to that gift
that you attached to it when you give it. So
if you're giving it free, then they're attaching a value
of it's free. It didn't cost anything, didn't cost any effort,
didn't cost any money. And that's where the humanistic nature,
and I know that we could all fall victim to that.

(17:45):
A humanistic nature is if I get it for free,
then I'm going to get more for free then easy
companies to go. It don't matter to me. That's free.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
How hard did I have to work to pay for
this dinner at Hall's?

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Oh my gosh, do you remember, particularly back when you
were doing and when you were younger, and you had
an hourly wage, maybe a summer job, and you knew
I had to work an hour to make that nine
dollars and fifty cents and.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Then oh my gosh, you got nine to fifty hours.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
I'm just making up.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
I got two fifty an hour. I must have been
a dumb dumb let's just say it back.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
In the day, I say, it's five bucks an hour. Right,
So you worked an hour and you pull up to
McDonald's at the drive through to order something, and you go,
I had to work an hour and twenty minutes to.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Buy that, to buy a big Mac?

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Exactly was it worth it? But if you if you
lose grasp of that, what did it cost me an
effort and or money or what was the value to
me that was an hour and twenty minute value?

Speaker 5 (18:46):
Well, and on top of it, Jonathan, there is a
dignity with work. We've heard people, politicians talk about it
for a long time, and it's true that if you're working,
if you're contributing, there is a sense of pride in
the fact that I contributed, that I actually got off
my duff and did something you're not gonna like it
at first, Like if I was like when I was
a you know, a high school kid or whatever, and

(19:06):
my mom and dad would say, well, in order for
you to get your allowance, part of that is you
got to mow the lawn. The lawn has been not
mowed in eight days, so we're not we're not paying you.
Ah fine, I'll get off the couch, I'll go dude
with those I didn't want to do it, but I actually,
when I got done mowing the lawn, still I look
back at it a little bit of pride there. Look
at I did that pretty nice?

Speaker 4 (19:27):
That looks good. Good.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Now, I know we don't have a whole lot of
time for this segment, and we don't really need it
because we don't even know what all the arguments are.
But we've already heard some pushback just based on the
fact that this is Kelly as you say, it's a tax,
it's gonna be it's gonna be harmful to the people
who need it most. The University of South Carolina professors
have already come out and say.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
I wish that South Carolina did not have so many
liberals at it. I mean, it's but it's all universities.
And so you've got somebody named Orgyle or Ozer Turk
who says and restrict on food won't do much to
improve physical health? Are you flipping hitting me? Bro How

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could anybody on Earth? I could ask an eight year
old right now, do you think it makes a difference
if you eat broccoli and fish all day as opposed
to eating pizza and candy? Would that be a difference
in your health? An eight year old would tell me yes,
But not this professor at the university. Then you got
somebody else, Daniel Crowboth who works there, who says, if

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the government and Henry McMaster and Donald Trump and Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. And all these people are serious about wanting
to help with the health, rather than restricting food, you
should be increasing the amount of money that we're giving
people because they can't get the quote unquote healthy food

(20:51):
with the limited amount of three hundred dollars a month
per person that you're giving.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I know this. You got to see lawsuits following on
the top of lawsuits, will be talking to you, Attorney
General again about that. You're going to see more and
more people come out and tell you you're not spending
enough money and you're going to try to restrict what
they can buy. Come on, we need to get our
caloric in take up. What does that better than the
double coke?

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Think about what the Democrats are going to be fighting
for now. So they're now fighting for morbidly obese poor
people to kill themselves by eating more sugary.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Foods, killing them.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
They're fighting to keep the criminals on the street so
that the black on black crime can continue. We're continuing
to import as many illegals and save the illegals as
much as possible.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Each of them with the pocket full of fentanyl. You're
killing them.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
They're on the wrong side of every issue that you
can possibly come up with. The abortion that again, you
think when you think about low income families, which is
you don't want to think about it, but think about it.
If you look at they call them food deserts, right
because they're just filled with like Popeye's chickens and those
types of places, so they can't get the nutrition that
they want. They're filled with liquor store and cigarette shops

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begin to kill them. And you know, under the brilliant
plan of the people who launched Planned parenthood. They made
sure to flood the zone with abortion clinics, and the
actual stated goal was so that they will abort themselves
into extinction. The federal government, led on the left, has
been trying to kill the minority group in this country

(22:23):
at least since the thirties, and they keep up. By
the way, if you noticed, African American population has not
increased percentage wise in the United States in one hundred years.
They're still at twelve percent.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
They're killing them. But wait on a lighter note. Death
will continue the conversation next.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
That Jonathan and Kelly show Jonathan Rush.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
But as it pertains to the neighborhood that I'm raising
my family and my wife and I, you know, it
is one of the most violent neighborhoods in the entire city.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Kelly Nash.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
I would argue, though, that no one thinks about public
safety more than I do.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Justa and Kelly show again my new favorite mayor Brandon
Johnson Chicago. He thinks about public safety a lot because
he lives in a high crime area and it is
wonder if he's going to get mugged on the way
to his car.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
Just you know, I went and did a little digging
on Brandon Johnson and his security because I knew he
had to have security, right, all mayors are going to
have some sort of security. Brandon Johnson has the biggest
security detail I believe in history for a mayor now
as the president, possibly bigger than the president. And of
course I'm not talking about the entire Secret Service, but
how many people actually work directly for the president's security detail.

(23:33):
I don't know that answer, and I don't know that
that would ever be published. But Brandon Johnson has one
hundred and fifty Chicago police officers assigned to his security detail.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Unbelievable, and that.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Was a massive increase over what was her name, Lori
Lightfoot and the reason he was able to get the
extra security. This is one of the most diabolical plans
I've ever heard of. According to some. When he took office,
one of the first things he did was he went
to the Chicago school boards and convinced them that having

(24:05):
police officers in the schools was a not a deterrent
to crime, it was a deterrent to students showing up.
So we need to get the cops out of the schools.
So they defunded the police in Chicago. That was ten
point three million dollars that suddenly was available, and so

(24:25):
Brandon used that money to bring those cops onto his
security details.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
So he walked throws out of the school. So we
can get more security for this guy.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
We have twenty what they call bodymen. Twenty people walk
with him wherever he goes. Now they're told to be
out of camera site. So when Brandon Johnson appears, it
appears as if he's all by himself, bravely walking the
streets of Chicago. But know that there's twenty of them there,
and also that we've had other people in an advanced
team go and check out wherever he's going.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
I know you see them on television. Never see these guys.
So they're doing a good job camouflage. They're getting back
in the car or wherever it is, get out of
the camera shot. Let's make it look like one of
the real average Chicagoans who know that the city is
as safe as the governor says it is. So go
about your lives citizens.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yep, that's CPD Unit five forty four if you want
to look it up.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Well, I know that the BLS number came out. This
is the first BLS is actually the BLS numbers reported
on the jobs the jobs claimed. So this is the
first report with the new BLS manager whatever his title is. Yes,
and it's not great. It's not good.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
It's not great, nor is it good.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
You know, I'm wondering, is this because they were talking
about how the numbers are going to go up? You've
always heard the people talking about now Donald Trump's going
to manipulate the numbers. Do you think actually they played
this down just to make sure that the first numbers
out of the box didn't look like they were artificially
manufactured to make Trump look good, as if he needs
he doesn't need anything to help him look good. The
polling on this guy's great.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Well, if you look at the actual jobs numbers, it's
it's pretty paltry. You know, we have doctor Joey on
and we are going to talk to doctor Joey Monday
about jobs numbers, and he'll usually reference that you want
a minimum of one hundred thousand jobs added to the
economy in order to maintain where you're at. That's a
big thinker. I don't really recognize. Why do I have
to add one hundred thousand jobs in order to stay

(26:13):
in place. But we added twenty two thousand jobs this month.
Last month, which was a disappointment, we only added seventy
nine thousand jobs, and that's what got the person fired.
So between the two months, we still haven't added a
month's worth of jobs. So that's kind of sad. We'll see.
You know, unemployment is up. We're up to four point

(26:35):
three percent right now. But I mean, historically four point
three is not bad. It's not good compared to where
we've been. Trump tweeted out this morning after the job's
numbers came out, Jerome Powell, you're too late. I need
that cut now.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Here he comes to save the day. If you watch
it the market, you go, and everything must be great
with the economy because we're setting records over here on
wallst So now they're looking for as much because this
was signaled apparently by someone on the board, they're looking
as much as a half a point cut from Jerome
Powell by the end of the month.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Well, they had already baked in the quarter point. And
when I say they've already baked that in, a survey
of stock traders had it at a ninety seven percent
chance that it would be in the first two weeks
of September last month. Now it's at ninety nine percent.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Is what.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
So everybody's already baked this in. So if he comes
in with a quarter point, it really doesn't move the market.
He needs to be bigger than a quarter point.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
You know, one of the things that was promised by
Governor Walls. It's been more than a week now. He
said news was coming. He's Wall said, there's how many
get a lot of news here in the past couple
of days. He said that last weekend, like on Monday
or something.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Well, he's calling for the death of Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
And he said, but there's news coming, And he was
relating to the fact that nobody's seen Donald Trump and
like a public appearance, he hadn't taken questions from reporters
for like, what was it eight hours, maybe fifty Yeah,
it was over Labor Day weekend. Yeah, so he said
there was news coming. He actually all but came out
and said Donald Trump is dead. You haven't read about
it yet. But I'm in the no I'm a governor.
I know these things. Then jokingly about it. Was very

(28:13):
excited about the prospects of being part of the break.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
He's giddy about the Uh. Look, eventually, Donald Trump will die,
as all of us will eventually die, even I mean
as in my lifetime, I haven't seen all the presidents.
I wasn't here for all of them, but I was
here for the Joe Biden experience, and that was the
worst president of my lifetime. He he's yeah, he surpassed

(28:38):
Jimmy Carter. But even if Joe Biden had died in office,
I would have been mournful. I would have recognized chaos
was coming, not just because Kamala Dippy Doo was behind him,
but there's always chaos and a transition like that. So
I wouldn't want Joe Biden to die in say twenty
twenty two or twenty twenty three. I wouldn't wish that

(29:00):
upon him, nor would I wish it upon the country.
The fact that Tim Wallas is, you know, getting giddy
about the idea that Donald Trump may die in office,
is pathetic.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Speaking of matters of life and death. I guess with
the Maha hearing the other day with RFK Junior, I
think everybody got a little little something to take home
to your local NewsChannel or your national news channel, so
you could claim victory. You had Democrats grand standing, you
had RFK Junior slamming them down. I mean, I loved
it when he pointed out that particular Senate I've forgot

(29:30):
who it was now you've been here for twenty three years.
This has never been a concern of yours until now, sir.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Yeah, under your watch, Yeah, the children have become the
sickest in the history of the country, and you'd net
ever raised a concern. And so the fact that look,
the reality of it is is that America's children and
American citizens in general are sicker than we've ever been.
We're on so much medication now, and something is wrong
with America when it comes to either our food system

(29:56):
or our exercise or something. Something's not right. And we
have higher rates of cancer, we have higher rates of diabetes,
we have high of all these things. So we've got
to do something. You can't trust the science because the
science has been telling you to do what we've been doing.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
It was amazing when he gave us a brief history
lesson just refs. Think when his uncle JFK was the president. Now,
the number of people who are either obese or suffering
from diseases, I mean It defies the scription why somebody
hasn't done a study on this. When I say, somebody,
other countries, look at America, we're so bad Germany, I'll
be going find out what the hell they're doing and

(30:32):
don't do that well.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
I remember as a kid, I looked it up the
other day, the food pyramid, and I must have followed
it because I got fat as a kid. The food
pyramid of the nineteen seventies recommended the recommended cereal grain
starch intake was eleven servings a day, eleven servings as

(30:55):
opposed to three servings of protein. So it was all
about carbohydrate rates because your body needs carbohydrates for fuel.
That's what's going to get you going. That's I believe
the beginning of the morbidity that we have here in
this country. Just fat butts everywhere, which only.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Goes to prove that the pharmaceutical companies even have money.
Way back in the day, we were out of time.
We got to talk to Ourttorney General Alan Wilson about
a South Carolina issue.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Next the Jonathan and Kelly Show, Jonathan Rush lied to
about natural immunity.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
We were told again and again the vaccines would prevent transmission,
they prevent infection.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
It wasn't true.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Kelly Nash, the.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Two biggest health officials at FDA during COVID criticized the
Biden mandates, and then he fired the two top health
officials at FDA who said, Hey, this thing has not
been properly tested.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Jonathan and Kelly show and to be clear, as of
this recording, yes, on Friday morning, Robert F. Kennedy Junior
has not resigned, although the calls were pretty fierce.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Now has he succumbed to a Sabeth Warren's demand that
he announced himself as a liar because he promised to
not take away your vaccinations.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
I love it when they talk over each other, especially
while Robert F. Kennedy Junior is pointing out she's already
taken eight hundred and fifty five thousand dollars from pharmaceutical companies.
She started talking louder as she started talking over it.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
If you were trying to get more of a response,
missing accomplished.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
I think your blood pressure went up. It could be
a health concern. Hey, before we wrap up today, we
had an opportunity this week to talk about some South
Carolina issues legally with our attorney General Alan Wilson, Good morning.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
Good morning.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
I know we'll get to the bottom line up front,
but I am outraged as the origin of why this
had to happen.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
This is an opinion that you wrote to support one
of the legislators who is basically trying to rewrite the
law to make it crystal clear that when we'd say
paid parental leave, what we still include people who had
still births?

Speaker 7 (32:54):
Correct, that is correct. The question to us was posed,
as you do the parents of stillborn children. You know,
children who you know you delivered a child who is deceased,
receive the same paid leave benefits as parents whould deliver
a live birth child. And the legislature does not exclude
stillbirth children, and they, you know, while they do not

(33:16):
exclude them, we felt that there should be more clarification
that we felt that the law would cover the parents
who go through that very, very traumatic event. So the
opinion is not binding, but it is instructive, and we
believe that it should cover people who receive this paid
benefits going through something traumatic like that.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Now, what is not identified in the article, and I'm
hoping someone will identify what school district in the state
of South Carolina by guy decided that because the child
was still born of a teacher, they're going to make
the teacher come back to work the next day.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Who is that callous?

Speaker 4 (33:49):
I just want to know who they are so the
constituency understands who they're voting for.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
Well, I can't tell who that is, Okay, I just
say that the legislator that asked the question got the
answer that he.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Got Representative Neil k Allen's Republican Pickens who brought it forth,
and he said that he had learned that there was
three school districts in the state that were doing it.
He says, since filing this with you, two of them
have already changed that policy to cover this, So apparently
there's just one left in South Carolina. But this, if
he gets his law rewritten, it will include still births,

(34:20):
and so there'll be no opportunity for people to deny
that in the future.

Speaker 7 (34:23):
And I do agree with you, it would seem pretty
heartless for someone to challenge that. But my goodness, some
of the cases I'm involved right now with guys, you know,
like Kansas State prohibit children at ten years old from
being transgendered, you know, and surgically altered. Should we have
laws that prohibit that, Well, we do because there are
people in the world that just have crazy ideas about life.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
But you were touching on the transgenderism issue in the bathrooms,
and you made some news this week with that as well.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
So that's right. About two weeks ago, the Fourth Circuit
Court of Appeals stayed a law that South Carolina passed
this year that prohibited schools from allowing transgendered children to
go into the bathroom of the opposite sex and so
so that law was basically said, you could lose twenty
five percent of your funding if you don't prohibit it.
Befourth Circuit stayed that law, and while we argue it

(35:08):
before them, I'm going to the Supreme Court along with
Superintendent Ellen Weaver, to ask the US Supreme Court to
allow the law to remain in effect while we argue
the case. So right now, that court ruling only applies
to one single child down in Berkeley County in that school,
But I'm concerned that it could incentivize other lawsuits for
other individuals. And at the end of the day, I

(35:30):
believe that ninety nine point nine percent of the privacy
rights of other kids should be respected just as much
as the individual transgender child. I think that child can
be accommodated by the school without compromising the privacy and
public safety of all of the other children.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
There are so many steps along the way that we
have to play out intentionally and in order. How long
do you think it had taken the play this out?

Speaker 7 (35:51):
Well, obviously, we just asked the Supreme Court to stay
the injunction, which means allow the law to stay in effect,
you know, protecting children's privacy. We expect the Supreme Court
to rule on that this month. On that narrow issue. Remember,
the Supreme Court is not weighing in on whether they
agree or disagree with the merits of the case, only
whether the Fourth Circuit was right to stay or to

(36:13):
stop the law from going into effect. As far as
the merits of the case, we still have to debate,
debate and argue that before the Fourth Circuit, which could
be months from now, and then if that gets appealed
to the US Supreme Court on the marriage that could
be a year from now. So, no matter what happens
this month, we're still a year out from any major
resolution to this issue. But rest assured we will descend

(36:34):
it to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
All Right, we're talking with Attorney General Alan Wilson, and
so I'm not going to ask your legal opinion on this.
This is not you as the Attorney General. I'm doinal
talking to Alan Wilson, father of a teenage girl. And
if I understand this correctly, at this moment, thanks to
the Fourth District or the Fourth Circuit, at this moment,

(36:58):
if she is in a bathroom and a boy who
feels like he's a girl decides to join her in
the restroom, that is legally allowed at this moment, what
would you advise your teenage daughter to do at that moment.

Speaker 7 (37:13):
Well, that's a great question, but let me clarify. This
particular ruling by the Four Circuit only applies applies to
that individual student, no other students in the state. So
it's only the female down in Berkeley County that wants
to go into boys' bathrooms would be allowed to and
so the ruling is only on that. But other people
could bring a lawsuit on behalf of other children. And again,

(37:36):
I don't think ten year old kids are going calling
law firms and asking them to go to the you know,
to file lawsuits. I think parents are doing this, and
left leaning groups are doing this, and I think the
kids are being used as palms. But to your point,
if we were to lose this case and this law
were to be gutted, and children were to be allowed
to go into the bathrooms and shower rooms and locker

(37:57):
rooms of the sex that they identify with, not the
sex that they are biologically grounded in, I would tell
my daughter to, obviously, if she sees someone going in
there and she feels uncomfortable, just to remove herself and
to go to another bathroom, to be polite, but to
remove herself from the situation. You can't control what other
people do. You can only control how you react to it.

(38:18):
And that's the advice I would give my daughter.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
I know we did have to edit that interview only slightly.
And he's got another big week coming up. We get
a lot of things happening through our Attorney General's office,
and next week we'll probably be talking with our numbers
man here in South Carol.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Yeah, we have doctor Joey on the phone first thing
Monday morning to break down the new jobs numbers for
South Carolina, not the federal ones but the local ones.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
Now later today on this FM and AM frequency. Kelly
Nash part of the best pregame kickoff team known to man.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Yeah, we do our pregame kickoff starts about three hours
before kickoff. So what's that four o'clock today. We'll be
on the air live from Williamsbury Stadium. But Jonathan, you'll
be a part of that as well as we do
our fan talk episode. I think that usually air somewhere
about forty five minutes before kickoff.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, I mean, I don't come. I don't come much
for the exs and the o's.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
That's not what fans do.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
No fans want to talk about wit minute. What's that
say on the field? What's that say over there? Oh?
We got we got some We got some new branding
going on. We do.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
We got some new money as well.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Yes, yes, we need more of that plainly. And the
competition has now become n Cuba College Football, the NFL
for all intents and purposes.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Right, we call it the ni L.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
That's right, that's a great idea. We can change it
to the n i L League. Hey, have yourself a
great Saturday, go Cox the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
That is our broadcast.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
For being here with us. I'll show myself out until
we meet again. That's the way it is in w
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