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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, we will.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hold social media platforms accountable for the hate infiltrating their platforms.
Kelly Nash.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I think we need to push back on this.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
There's no guarantee of free speech on misinformation or hate speech,
and especially around our democracy. Jonathan and Kelly Show, WOC
and is it that on this day in particular, what's
at stake the democracy not only in America but the
democracies of the world.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's a.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
How would you not expect more assassination attempts? I mean,
they're telling you you must kill Donald Trump if you
want to save democracy in the world. That's that's the
message of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
This is Joe Biden's last address to the UN. I
think he just called for the assassination of Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You probably did. I mean, you know, when you read
that letter, the parts that they've released so far from
the would be assassin in Florida, he sounds like he's
reading from the Democrat playbook. Donald Trump is a threat
to people around the world. He's a threat to the
people of the Ukraine. He's a horrible human being. I'm
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embarrassed I ever voted for him all those types of things,
and so yeah, he has to be stopped. And he
said something about at the end of his letter, he said,
if I fail, I ran, please finish him for us.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So I mean we're in very odd times right now
where they keep saying lower the rhetoric, lower the temperature,
but kill Donald Trump. That's what are you talking about,
you nuts.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm sure that someone is transcribing this even as we speak,
so I can have it printed and then put in
a book for him for easy reference. I have only
one question. I need to go back and do a
deep dive in a search on all of Joe Biden's
public addresses. Do we have account how many times this
has been the inflection point?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That's you know, that's one of those hot words that
somebody taught him a few years ago, and he loves
to say it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So I had to go back and look to make
sure I was using the word correctly. And according to
the Internet and the Oxford Language Dictionary, a time of
significant change in a situation a turning point. How many
turning points that we had the inflection points? It was
like one a day, maybe two, maybe two a day
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in Joe Biden's world. This is an inflection point. We've
been preaching this now for three and a half, almost
four years.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Look, nobody's been listening to Joe Biden since he got elected.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I mean, he's.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Uh, he's literally the if you look up empty suit
that that guy's photo shows up.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So even though they all got their little earpieces on
to get the translations, are hanging on every word. Look
at him. Ah, Okay, it's the UN, for God's sake, Yeah,
they be where we get out voted though really important
world humanitaris efforts by China. Mm, China, for God's sake
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is at the UN. That's right, Okay, all right, And
by the way, this will be the last time we
have to suffer through this. I can't suffer through any
more of Kamala Harris's speeches. It's the same speech over
and over again. It's the same words. I guess they
go in and put the name of the city in
to make sure she doesn't claim she's in the wrong state.
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But other than that, it's the same speech she's been using.
And I realize that people like Jack Trapper as I
call him, desperately one to have more opportunities to have
an in depth conversation with Kamala and her policies. But
as the wicked Witch of the Midwest explain to you.
And they have her dressing now, Gretchen and Whitmer, they
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have here dressing now in more floral prints, trying to
soften up her image.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, she's going to a Lily Lily Pulitzer party. She
looks ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
She doesn't have Kamala Harris is very busy on the
road speaking directly to the American people. And I though
that people like you, Jack would like to have more
opportunities to speak to her and maybe find out in
depth questions, and she's readily available to answer those, but
she's very busy right now running for the presidency.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I put up a video yesterday. I mean this one
literally scares the pants off me. It's a guy named
Eric Weinstein, and Eric Weinstein one of the smartest men
in the world, also a far left loon, huge Bernie
Sanders supporter, and he's on a podcast yesterday and they
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ask him, can you explain what in the flip Kamala
Harris means Every time she says dream of what can
be unburdened by what has been she says it all
the time. Nobody knows what she's talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh, he explained it for you.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, he breaks it down basically what that phrase means.
It's a Chairman Mao phrase. And he says, that's why
Kamala har scares me. That's why Bernie Sanders people are
afraid of Kamala Harris. What she means by that, and
what Chairman Mau meant by that is we're going. And
the example that he gave is a nailhouse, which I
had never heard of a nailhouse either, And if you
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look up nailhouse you'll see that they're very popular in China.
And what a nailhouse is is somebody who tried to
resist the Chinese Communist government. And when they resisted, they
would not sell their property, and so the Chinese government
punished them by saying, fine, don't sell it, we will
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build all around you. And it's basically imprisoning them so
that they are surrounded by high rises and highways and
there's actually now there's no way to leave the property.
You don't want to sell it, that's fine, we are
going to make your life miserable. And the phrase dream
of what can be unburdened by what has been means
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we have to get rid of the past, in other words,
and he said, that's why the Kamala Harris people are
targeting doctors and lawyers right now and finding out where
do you stand, because if you don't line up with
the way we think about the future, then we're going
to unburden ourselves of you. Is murder of possibility, he says,
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likely likely that they will be more than happy to
kill people who don't line up with the same thought
patterns that they have so we can be unburdened by
the great communist future that she's building for.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Us, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And I heard somebody explain that recently, that it was
unburdening ourselves of our struggles and then using those examples
and learning from the history of America as we strive
to be a more perfect union. But then I was
bounced back to an interview today or yesterday. I saw
him again today on MSNBC, the guy who's written a
book called The Barn Okay and the Barn is about
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the tragic death the trial of the tragic death of
Emmitt Till. He was outraged that he grew up twenty
miles away forty five miles or whatever within reasonable close
proximity to the Emmett Hill in trial and then subsequent
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unfortunate So and he's outraged that he didn't learn about
this as a child.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So he went back and wrote it. He's written this book.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
He said, this book is a vessel, and it teaches
us that we have not although we have. You would
thought you would have thought, just based on legislation, you
would have thought that we've come a long way.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Since eighteen sixty five. But no, this is a This
book is a vessel.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well Emmett was what nineteen fifty or something, wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But you know, in his book it goes back to
the ultimate origin of white supremacy and why we're still
suffering to that today under Donald J.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Trump.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well we're not under Donald J.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Trump.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
We're suffering under Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
All right, So, and I understand David Viewer's ratings have
regained their popularities now again America's most watched newsperson.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I had not seen that.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Let me see about that, David ratings.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I know that the the overall ratings for Kamala news
coverage is about one hundred is still right at one
hundred percent positive, one hundred percent positive. I just I
can't deal with Kamala speech anymore, and I can't watch
network news. It just it just draws me nuts. I know,
I don't I'm going full network I can't. I can't
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stand it. I'm not taking it anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I don't see that being fact. What I do see
is a mediate story that is lying to you. But
other than that, there's no other reports.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Of that must have been the one.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So David Muir of World nine. Now they're saying that
it was a far right conspiracy in the media to
report that his ratings dropped twelve percent, which they did.
They're saying, however, the ratings are not a disaster as
being described. He's still averaging over six million, which is true.
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He's actually averaging around seven million, but he still lost
nine hundred thousand followers.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So well, I know, judging by NBC's news coverage this morning,
just specifically with MSNBC, tomorrow must be the next day
of the ratings report or the polling reports you'll see
from CBS News where Kamala Harris is five points.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Ahead currently David Muir number one This is just amongst
the three number one, Number two is NBC, in third
place is CBS News. So that is the rankings as
of September twenty second.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Okay, so with the CBS News poll that will be
released tomorrow, I don't know, just pulling that out of
my rear end. We have to continue to tell people
in America on the CBS, the ABC, the NBC News
who always reference each other as the ultimate news source
unless specifically ask if they've been able to verify, and
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they will say no or yes. But we'll see the
next poll where Kamala Harris is plainly sweeping the nation
now with popularity, which gives people the thought process. Yes,
there's two things we're building here. Yes, it's okay to
vote for Kamala Harris, although you can't afford dinner, but
it is okay to vote for her. So Donald Trump
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is only going to roll out his nationwide tax plan,
as she calls it, with the tariffs that he will
put in place against persons who currently are reaming us
within a national trade And then the other thing is,
although they claim that Trump is always building his case
to add some type of questionable motives that may be
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behind the polling places as we see them report of
the November fifth. This is to make sure the American
people know if Kamala doesn't win NOVERMB of the fifth
and plainly something was wrong. And the Republicans who were
able to pull off some kind of undercover coup to
put Donald Trump back into the Oval office.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Appears that the undercover coup is going to meet from
minority groups. I mean, if you look at CNN was
in tears last night because Donald Trump is now up
to forty eight percent of the Latino vote. Last go
Joe Biden got ninety percent of the Latino vote and
almost one hundred percent of the black vote. Donald Trump's
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up around twenty eight percent in the new polls for
black votes. So minorities are leaving the Democrat Party in droves.
CNN and MSNBC can't figure it out. The MSNBC is
not talking about it. CNN's at least crying about it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I know that we've had anecdotal reports of persons who
have had their dogs and cats eaten by immigrants in Springfield,
and I know that I think that Donald Trump is
still planning to make an appearance in Springfield.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
In Aurora yes, I don't know if that's on the
calendar yet. It is, so, oh, when's that coming up?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It's two days after he goes to n the one
in New York where he was shot at. So that's
what October fifth, I think, And so it'll be like
October seventh.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Okay, all right, so we got that coming. But the
story that at this point is only being propagated by
the New York Post and a little bit of television coverage,
but far right wing misinformation, disinformation, as it was plainly
spoken by your brother in socialism, Governor Wallas. Apparently we
get into a fever pitch here on the streets of Chicago,
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if you can believe the news reports, and I do that,
the gangs of Chicago are noun too happy with what's
been happening here with the movie and gangs from south
of the border. Particularly at this point in Chicago is
the Venezuelan's much like Aurora, Colorado, where there are predictions
now for persons who are on the street in Chicago
saying that this is going to turn into a blood bath.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
There's a word that's.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Been used quite frequently, but apparently it will become a
blood bath as we have gang turf wars in Chicago,
which we have. We have a history of gang turf wars,
and we know those can be bloody, bloody, and it
could be a blood bath. But this one in particular,
seems like these guys that I'm hearing speak and I
don't know, maybe they're actors, maybe they're making all this up,
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but the guys that I'm hearing speaking on camera in
Chicago sound dead serious. And they're not the ones that
are threatening it. They're the ones saying it's coming. Just
as persons who used to be in gang's and or
have a gang association, with the way that they see
the fever pitch, they're going to hit an inflection point.
I think in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's not Chicago, I mean Philadelphia. You have Baltimore to Philadelphia.
Venezuelan gang trend. Di Agria has over five thousand members
currently in New York City and they are warring against
the Haitian gangs. So it's their turf wars have now
moved to our cities. And yes, it's happening in Charlotte,
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North Carolina. You've got a gang war happening in Charlotte,
North Carolina, where three were murdered last week. This is
what happens when you invite this. You can see the tattoos.
Look at the New York Post this morning. You can
see the tattoos that these gang members all have. And yeah,
some of them are working as Uber Eats drivers. Some
of them are working as you know, they're working at
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your checkout stores. They're working there so that they can
have access to kill the people that they want to kill.
They're not here to try to live a productive life.
They want to kill their enemies. Now you're not their enemies. Unfortunately,
you're just going to be collateral damage when they kill
one of their own. They don't. That doesn't even make
the news, so you're not hearing a lot about it.
By the way. Also, FBI report proven completely false. If
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you want to know the actual violent crime data in cities,
it's gone up an unbelievable eighty five percent since twenty nineteen,
since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Eighteen of the Little More just schooled me this morning
that the new crime reports are out as you say,
and Joe Scarborough doubled down. So I'm sure Amika was
the third vote to make sure that it was unified
in the thought process that the FBI is telling you
crime is way down in America.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, that's well, that's what the FBI report says. So now,
the FBI does not actually hear from victims. The FBI
only hears from police departments that report it. Police report
that We already know that the police departments for decades.
This has been one of the complaints don't actually call
in all of their actual reported crime. And we also
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know a lot of people don't report crime to the
police because they're like, what's the point. I live in
a community where they come by and they steal my
car on the regular, so why would I even bother
calling in. They haven't done anything for the last eight
cars that were stolen. So when they actually what they
do is they go into do a survey. Now this
is a federal government survey of two hundred thousand Americans,
and in that survey, they feel like that's the better
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representation of what's happening. They talk to people who live
in these cities and they talk to them every like
five years and find out what's the crime like. And
so it's the same people in those cities every five years,
getting the same reports. And that's how they're able to
tell you that they're up an unbelievable eighty five percent
since twenty nineteen. So we're in one of the most
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violent times in American history right now in the city
suburbs not as anywhere near as bad. But if you
go into a city right now, expect rape, murder, death, violence,
it's all coming. It hasn't been as bad since the
late seventies.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So you're saying that the FBI, and we've heard this before,
but you're saying that the FBI, in particular, with the
report from the New York City Police Department, which in
fact less than a month ago made a specific report
notation that immigrant crime is up eighty five percent inside
the city, that information is not being used or is
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being suppressed from the FI.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I mean, if I want to give it on the
best possible interpretation, I can say that the FBI does
not get all of the accurate data because some police
departments don't want to report it exactly. So perhaps, I mean,
if I'm trying to get let the FBI bosses off
the hook, I could use that as an excuse. But
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you don't have to be a smart person to recognize
that when you look at cities today. They started going
down around the time of the George Floyd protests, and
when the cities announced that we wanted to defund the police,
several things happened. One, lawlessness increased at the same time
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that people who wanted to become officers decreased. At the
same time, you also had a rash of retirements happening.
So today's inner cities have less cops and more lawlessness.
Based on the actions of Kamala Harris, who was I mean,
you could almost I don't want to point to just
one person, because I mean there's obviously thousands that were
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involved in setting this up, but she was that at
that time, the most prominent person. She was a candidate
for the presidency of the United States, and she is
putting up bail money to help people get out of
jail who were arrested for looting. That I mean that
encourages lawlessness, so that that's where this is the country
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she wants.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
You know, when I heard the guy in Chicago talking
about how that he knows that there are plans by
the Venezuelans or other games from other countries that you
have mentioned in their turf battles, who plan to think
over particular quadrants of them, not a quadrant, but particular
areas of the city. I was thinking, Wow, if there
were only a rece manifestation of that activity that we
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could point to, if they're only let's say there, Let's
say that there were a place like in Europe, in
a city like London, where there were particular immigrants who
went and they didn't assemble, they just kind of migrated
to a particular place, a particular section of the city,
and then they took that over and then it became
so overwhelming with their own creation of their own law
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enforcement that would be the gang members, that the actual
London police officers would not go inside the area of
that city. If we could only point a situation or
an example like that. In twenty eighteen, and Kamala Harris says,
that's good what you see right now happening in Paris
with the burning of Paris, it's on fire. If you
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haven't seen Paris, it's literally a blaze. She says, that's
a good thing because what we're seeing is people who
have been denied the opportunity of democracy getting that opportunity
to live their dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Great, So what are you all upset.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
About the people of Paris love it.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I know, in the middle of a very serious statement
which you made a minute ago, I chuckled in the background.
If you heard me, I was laughing at Here's the
quote again. This is Joe Biden speaking today. Some things
are more important than staying in power. People matter most.
That from Joe Biden, when you're being admonished by Joe
Biden of the Democrats, that some things are more important
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than staying in power. Is Joe Biden making his turn
now that he's about to be ushered out of the
Oval office, swept up and taking out in a dustpan.
Is him trying to go back to his very strong
Catholic roots for suddenly humanitarianism is on his mind and
he wants to make sure that he leaves the world peaceful.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I mean, I don't know what. I couldn't even imagine
what's going on in Joe Biden's mind. I mean, he
is He's already in the ash heap of history, like
Joe Biden is a forgotten president already, and the only
way he'll be rem he won't even be remembered, like
Jimmy Carter, like if Kamala Harris wins, then he just
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kind of ushered in the destruction. If she loses, it
will have just been a short, little roadbump that got
in the way for three years as Donald Trump brings
America back to normalcy. But he is a failed president
by any standard. I mean, you're gonna look at the
polls today right now, Joe Biden approval rating somewhere around
twenty eight percent. Is the country moving in the right
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direction right now? Nine percent? It's lower than what Congress
gets for an approval rating. Ninety one percent of Americans
say we're heading in the wrong direction today. So yeah, no,
he's failed.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Donald Trump made an interesting comment a couple of weeks ago,
is the first time I heard it. Then he did
it again, I think yesterday when he said that gun
owners registered voter, gun owners actual at participation in elections
is very low. I wouldn't have thought that was the case.
He said it more than a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Where do you think he's getting that stat from.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I do not know, And I'm glad that we brought
it up today in our rash. Thought kind of brought
it up because there are two things that happened yesterday
in relation to talking about the admonishments of Donald J.
Trump having to do with participation in elections. Gun ownership
was one of the things he brought up the other day.
I think it was in Pennsylvania, I'm not sure. But
then the other one was talking about the evangelical vote
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only showed up owner before November the fifth to actually
cast a vote, that we would win overwhelmingly in this
country and wouldn't have to worry about it anymore. Now
I realized that the Democrats the first time he said
that wanted you to believe that he was claiming then
that we would never have another election. No, what he
said was is that you wouldn't have to worry about
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voting for your religious rights anymore if you show up
and vote, because he's going to protect your religious rights.
But nonetheless, NBC can interpret it whichever way they like.
They're fine with that now. I'm cool with it too.
Just do say whatever you want to say. But you know,
when you look at the fact fact that in his
claim that gun ownership voting.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Which is astounding to me, is it not very active.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You would have thought people, You would have thought that
would have been the most prolific outside of the teachers'
union showing up an election day.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Well, just so we know, I mean, according to this,
when they analyze voting records from the twenty twenty election,
it shows that eighty percent of people who own guns voted,
as opposed to seventy three percent of the general population.
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So it is you are more likely to vote if
you're a gun owner. I guess what Donald Trump is
saying possibly is that he'd like one hundred percent. We
needed the gun owners to come on out, all right.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So then the other thing we talked about today, in
particular with our rash thought thank you for listening, is
about the evangelical vote. And Donald Trump does, in fact
with his policy, not just with his mouth, support Israel,
which is a big thing right now for the Christian voter.
But also he protects parents' rights in a lot of ways,
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which has to do with the assault of Christianity as
you're seeing it on the left coming up through the
school system. So they're more in a couple of reasons
to vote for Donald Trump, whether you believe or not
that you know.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
In uh, what was it two Corinthians?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
The Corinthians walk into a bar. I forget what he was?
What he was trying to say, oh, he was like
in at some church.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
No, he was at it was not Bob Jones, but
was a school of light bulb.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Liberty University or something, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Liberty University.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And there was a corn of the wall for the
second Corinthian.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Two Corinthians, we love that one. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And then my follow up, my favorite jug two Corinthians
walk into a bar. Bartender says, why the long face
got another damn letter from Paul today? Anyway, So and
two Corinthians. Not to say that Donald Trump would necessarily
be like Jimmy Carter. He may not hold a Sunday
school class that you make sure you up in time
and showered at church on time to attend. That may
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not be the guy. He may not even be the
guy you want to go to dinner with on a
Sunday evening. He may not even be the guy you
want to have a piece of fried chicken with after
a Sunday sermon. But the point is is that his
policies are the reason why you would have thought that
more evangelicals, if it's true that they don't show up
higher than the average registered voter, that evangelicals would in
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fact show up. But it seems like a lot of
the evangelicals that I talked to are kind of ashamed
of his behaviors. Yes, and I'm like, you know something,
I get that, But you're not asking him the babysit.
You're not going to ask him to come into your home.
You just want him to go give you the policies
that you would like to see protected in this country
so you can continue you go to church on Sunday morning.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
By the way, I mean honest with you, there's a
large group of people in America who don't feel that way.
There's a lot of Christians who feel like they shouldn't participate.
And you and I can show them scripture all day
long that says that you should participate in politics. But
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they would say, no, I am to be called out
of this world, and so whatever if God, God's going
to choose the leaders anyway, so it doesn't matter if
I vote. And that's the way they feel about it.
And I'm certainly not going to support a man who's
cheated on every one of his wives. I'm not certainly
not going to support somebody who's pro abortion. So I'm
not going to And they can just go through a
laundry list of reasons that they wouldn't support either candidate. Basically,
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until Jesus Christ is on the ballot, they're not voting.
So that's the way they are, and you're not going
to do much to change them. For those of you
who are possibly struggling with the idea that I'm supporting
Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is an embarrassment because he
says outlandish things and he mocks people. He does not
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act very Christianese. There's a new whole out talking about
how many people look at either Donald Trump or Kamala
Harris or Joe Biden as a Christian And right now,
only fourteen percent of Americans say that you could use
the word Christian to describe any of those people. So
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while they make like Donald Trump says he's a Presbyterian,
Joe Biden's a Catholic, Kamala Harris is a Baptist, most
Americans don't think that they represent that. And again, it's
not for us to judge. I mean, I know that,
and James, it'll talk about you want to judge a
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tree by its fruit? Are they producing Christian fruit? It
doesn't seem as if any of them are I'm not
here to slam any of them and their Christian beliefs
or non Christian beliefs or whatever. I'm just saying that
of the three, none of them seem to be Christians
to anybody voting, So that is you just got to
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put that one to the side. Then would it be
great if there was an evangelical running for office. Sure,
they're not there, So then to your point, you got
to pick one that would align more closely with the
values that you hold to be in like keeping churches open.
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When they say separation of church and state. That's one
that the Democrats are able to get a little bit
of traction on because that is something that we hold
dear to us. And it just depends on how you
interpret that. Our understanding of the original intent of that
was to keep the government out of the church's business,
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not to prohibit the church from having any say on
what happens politically.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And I'm not here, and I don't think anybody would
ever try to make the argument that we're voting for
Donald Trump because somehow he is a even a close
manifestation of what we want Jesus to be. If he
were going to be the president I'm just saying, I
need a good John the Baptist right now. I need
a good John the Baptist coming before Jesus and calling
out the vipers. And you know, I need a rough
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and tough kind of John the Baptist guy. I mean,
he can survive in any environment. Here's a guy at
eight locusts for God's sake. So I'm and he's willing
to walk up in any township and call out even
the san heedrum.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
For Pete's sake.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I want that guy. That's that's more of the Donald J.
Trump biblical character I would associate him with.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, that's unfortunately not the way most Christians feel. The
ones that are identify as evangelicals don't feel that way.
They want someone to that they can. You want your
leader to represent you, and if your leader does not
behave in a way that you feel is something that
you can be proud of, then they don't want that
guy or gal. But when I look at this survey
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conducted September twelfth through the sixteenth by the Associated Press,
they're saying that for the majority of Americans now, so
they're looking at two different groups here. They're looking at
evangelicals and evangelicals are not as likely to vote for
Donald Trump as the just the non evangelical.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Just put it that way.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
They're saying that of those people that are non evangelical
right now, seventy nine percent don't care about his Christian beliefs.
They don't care how he behaves. They're not interested. They
don't care what he does in his personal time. Yeah,
so they don't care what he tweets, they don't care
what he says. They just care what kind of policies
will he promote? And that's I guess good news.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
It'd be great if you could have a guy who
you were constantly proud of. Sure, but we don't have that.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And you know, I mean, I'm going to say something.
I need him to do a certain job. I mean,
would it be great to have Franklin Graham in the
oval office as your president? Can't think of a more
upstanding man to have. Now, would Franklin Graham sit across
the table from ch and she's really going to be
quaking in his boot. That's when Franklin Graham would say,
let me introduce you to my defense spokesperson is Donald J. Trump,
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and have him sit down.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well, I mean think about this. You could have had
basically Franklin Graham. You chose not to have him because
Mike Pence is Franklin Graham incarnate. I mean, that's basically
Mike Pence is that guy. He talks like Franklin Graham,
he acts like him, he walks like him, he says
all the you know. Remember, Mike Pence was the one
who was mocked for having the same rule that Franklin
(31:33):
Graham has. I will not ride in an elevator with
a woman alone. I will not have a meeting with
a woman one on one. I will always have somebody
else in the room with us. Mike Pence was mocked
for that. Franklin Graham has been celebrated for that. So
he ran for president. Republicans said, don't care, don't want him,
Franklin Graham, or excuse me, Franklin Graham. Possibly Mike Pence
(31:55):
has been judged to be weak because of a lot
of his Christian beliefs. I think, so it's tough. It's
a tough sell. You want somebody who's strong. Oftentimes they're
going to use coarse language. Oftentimes they're going to behave
in ways that we wouldn't and you know, I'm certainly
not comparing Donald Trump to King David. However, that is
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an example of a leader who God said was after
his own heart. But human beings would have judged King
David as a tremendously flawed person, someone who impregnated his neighbor,
who then lied and cheated in order to get her
husband murdered. I mean, these are not the qualities she
would say, that's my guy. But he was judged to
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be a great king for Israel. And yes, he impregnated
his neighbor and then lied and cheated to get her
husband murdered.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
That happened every.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Time I hear King David's name now or actually I
learned this, I don't know if I guess I learned
it through casual conversation. So this may not hold up
to an Internet scrutiny the truth. But you know, you
think what he got. He got his neighbor pregnant. You
know when Bathsheba was on the roof next door. Now,
I'd always kind of blame that on the absence of
cable television. If there had been a good college football
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game on Ken, David would have been upstairs instead of
at the war. He would have been up stairs watching
Tennessee play oh Miss, but that wasn't availability. So he's
wandering around, you know, And now he's checking out the
next door rooftops and Bathsheba's somebody's taking a bath, and
I'm thinking, how bizarre is that the woman's up on
the roof taking a bath? Now would why would that be?
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They were like, well, you idiot, they would bring the
water up and then put it on the bathtub on
top of the building because the sun would heat the water.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Like really, So there's another thing that you just learned.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Just now.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I get to go, and I haven't thought about that
since that conversation. I'm gonna have to go put that
to the internet test. I wonder if that's true.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
The other thing used to think about when he did that,
he had eight wives eight He had eight women that
he's responsible to for all marital duties. On top of it,
and estimated six hundred concubines, women who were just there
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to sexually gratify him. And yet that was not enough
out of the I mean, how could you, how could
you possibly do that? I don't even know like six
hundred women. You certainly can't even remember all their names, no,
and how do you pick like today is do they
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just have him in a rotation like today, I'm going
to sleep with wife number one and concubine number two
hundred and thirty seven. Tomorrow it's wife number eight, you
concubine two hundred and thirty's And they're all hoping. I
don't get my number called. I don't want my number called.
I like the free meals I'm getting here.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
This is a good time.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
It was the the Rockefeller of Flesh.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And the Bible said, God said the King David, and
if you had asked for more, I'd have given it
to you.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
And that's how they knew that he was near death.
The virgin presented herself and he wasn't interested.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Oh the one who warmed him at the near the end,
I mean, but I I just I just don't know how.
And Beth Sheeba must have been a head looker.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
She must have been.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I got six hundred women in the barn back here.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
She's so hot. He's one of my best warriors, and
I'm going to send him to the front line and
have him killed. That's how hot she is.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
And one of my best friends, yes, one of my
best friends.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
When going to the front line, and then draw back
from him and leave him out there by himself.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Well, now that we know that she's pregnant, call him
home and we're going to get him to sleep with her. Now, oh,
what are you doing at my house? Go go sleep
with your wife.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I can't go sleep with my wife while my men
are battling.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
He slept onder the your step for three nights.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I will not enjoy my wife's company until all of
our men are home. All right, we'll send him back
and kill him at the last second. Everybody pulled back,
let the let him, let him kill him, lie and
cheat and murderer.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
That's King David. Good thing he's not running for president.
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, we will.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hold social media platforms accountable for the hate infiltrating their platforms.
Kelly Nash.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I think we need to push back on this.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
There's no guarantee of free speech on misinformation or hate speech,
and especially around our democracy. Jonathan and Kelly Show, WOC
and is it that on this day in particular, what's
at stake the democracy not only in America but the
democracies of the world.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's a.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
How would you not expect more assassination attempts? I mean,
they're telling you you must kill Donald Trump if you
want to save democracy in the world. That's that's the
message of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
This is Joe Biden's last address to the UN. I
think he just called for the assassination of Trump.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You probably did. I mean, you know, when you read
that letter, the parts that they've released so far from
the would be assassin in Florida, he sounds like he's
reading from the Democrat playbook. Donald Trump is a threat
to people around the world. He's a threat to the
people of the Ukraine. He's a horrible human being. I'm
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embarrassed I ever voted for him all those types of things,
and so yeah, he has to be stopped. And he
said something about at the end of his letter, he said,
if I fail, I ran, please finish him for us.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So I mean we're in very odd times right now
where they keep saying lower the rhetoric, lower the temperature,
but kill Donald Trump. That's what are you talking about,
you nuts.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm sure that someone is transcribing this even as we speak,
so I can have it printed and then put in
a book for him for easy reference. I have only
one question. I need to go back and do a
deep dive in a search on all of Joe Biden's
public addresses. Do we have account how many times this
has been the inflection point?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
That's you know, that's one of those hot words that
somebody taught him a few years ago, and he loves
to say it.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
So I had to go back and look to make
sure I was using the word correctly. And according to
the Internet and the Oxford Language Dictionary, a time of
significant change in a situation a turning point. How many
turning points that we had the inflection points? It was
like one a day, maybe two, maybe two a day
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in Joe Biden's world. This is an inflection point. We've
been preaching this now for three and a half, almost
four years.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Look, nobody's been listening to Joe Biden since he got elected.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I mean, he's.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Uh, he's literally the if you look up empty suit
that that guy's photo shows up.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So even though they all got their little earpieces on
to get the translations, are hanging on every word. Look
at him. Ah, Okay, it's the UN, for God's sake, Yeah,
they be where we get out voted though really important
world humanitaris efforts by China. Mm, China, for God's sake
(03:05):
is at the UN. That's right, Okay, all right, And
by the way, this will be the last time we
have to suffer through this. I can't suffer through any
more of Kamala Harris's speeches. It's the same speech over
and over again. It's the same words. I guess they
go in and put the name of the city in
to make sure she doesn't claim she's in the wrong state.
(03:27):
But other than that, it's the same speech she's been using.
And I realize that people like Jack Trapper as I
call him, desperately one to have more opportunities to have
an in depth conversation with Kamala and her policies. But
as the wicked Witch of the Midwest explain to you.
And they have her dressing now, Gretchen and Whitmer, they
(03:49):
have here dressing now in more floral prints, trying to
soften up her image.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, she's going to a Lily Lily Pulitzer party. She
looks ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
She doesn't have Kamala Harris is very busy on the
road speaking directly to the American people. And I though
that people like you, Jack would like to have more
opportunities to speak to her and maybe find out in
depth questions, and she's readily available to answer those, but
she's very busy right now running for the presidency.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I put up a video yesterday. I mean this one
literally scares the pants off me. It's a guy named
Eric Weinstein, and Eric Weinstein one of the smartest men
in the world, also a far left loon, huge Bernie
Sanders supporter, and he's on a podcast yesterday and they
(04:36):
ask him, can you explain what in the flip Kamala
Harris means Every time she says dream of what can
be unburdened by what has been she says it all
the time. Nobody knows what she's talking about.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh, he explained it for you.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, he breaks it down basically what that phrase means.
It's a Chairman Mao phrase. And he says, that's why
Kamala har scares me. That's why Bernie Sanders people are
afraid of Kamala Harris. What she means by that, and
what Chairman Mau meant by that is we're going. And
the example that he gave is a nailhouse, which I
had never heard of a nailhouse either, And if you
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look up nailhouse you'll see that they're very popular in China.
And what a nailhouse is is somebody who tried to
resist the Chinese Communist government. And when they resisted, they
would not sell their property, and so the Chinese government
punished them by saying, fine, don't sell it, we will
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build all around you. And it's basically imprisoning them so
that they are surrounded by high rises and highways and
there's actually now there's no way to leave the property.
You don't want to sell it, that's fine, we are
going to make your life miserable. And the phrase dream
of what can be unburdened by what has been means
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we have to get rid of the past, in other words,
and he said, that's why the Kamala Harris people are
targeting doctors and lawyers right now and finding out where
do you stand, because if you don't line up with
the way we think about the future, then we're going
to unburden ourselves of you. Is murder of possibility, he says,
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likely likely that they will be more than happy to
kill people who don't line up with the same thought
patterns that they have so we can be unburdened by
the great communist future that she's building for.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Us, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And I heard somebody explain that recently, that it was
unburdening ourselves of our struggles and then using those examples
and learning from the history of America as we strive
to be a more perfect union. But then I was
bounced back to an interview today or yesterday. I saw
him again today on MSNBC, the guy who's written a
book called The Barn Okay and the Barn is about
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the tragic death the trial of the tragic death of
Emmitt Till. He was outraged that he grew up twenty
miles away forty five miles or whatever within reasonable close
proximity to the Emmett Hill in trial and then subsequent
(07:15):
unfortunate So and he's outraged that he didn't learn about
this as a child.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So he went back and wrote it. He's written this book.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
He said, this book is a vessel, and it teaches
us that we have not although we have. You would
thought you would have thought, just based on legislation, you
would have thought that we've come a long way.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Since eighteen sixty five. But no, this is a This
book is a vessel.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Well Emmett was what nineteen fifty or something, wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But you know, in his book it goes back to
the ultimate origin of white supremacy and why we're still
suffering to that today under Donald J.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Trump.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well we're not under Donald J.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Trump.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
We're suffering under Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
All right, So, and I understand David Viewer's ratings have
regained their popularities now again America's most watched newsperson.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I had not seen that.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Let me see about that, David ratings.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I know that the the overall ratings for Kamala news
coverage is about one hundred is still right at one
hundred percent positive, one hundred percent positive. I just I
can't deal with Kamala speech anymore, and I can't watch
network news. It just it just draws me nuts. I know,
I don't I'm going full network I can't. I can't
(08:39):
stand it. I'm not taking it anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I don't see that being fact. What I do see
is a mediate story that is lying to you. But
other than that, there's no other reports.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Of that must have been the one.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So David Muir of World nine. Now they're saying that
it was a far right conspiracy in the media to
report that his ratings dropped twelve percent, which they did.
They're saying, however, the ratings are not a disaster as
being described. He's still averaging over six million, which is true.
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He's actually averaging around seven million, but he still lost
nine hundred thousand followers.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So well, I know, judging by NBC's news coverage this morning,
just specifically with MSNBC, tomorrow must be the next day
of the ratings report or the polling reports you'll see
from CBS News where Kamala Harris is five points.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Ahead currently David Muir number one This is just amongst
the three number one, Number two is NBC, in third
place is CBS News. So that is the rankings as
of September twenty second.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Okay, so with the CBS News poll that will be
released tomorrow, I don't know, just pulling that out of
my rear end. We have to continue to tell people
in America on the CBS, the ABC, the NBC News
who always reference each other as the ultimate news source
unless specifically ask if they've been able to verify, and
(10:17):
they will say no or yes. But we'll see the
next poll where Kamala Harris is plainly sweeping the nation
now with popularity, which gives people the thought process. Yes,
there's two things we're building here. Yes, it's okay to
vote for Kamala Harris, although you can't afford dinner, but
it is okay to vote for her. So Donald Trump
(10:38):
is only going to roll out his nationwide tax plan,
as she calls it, with the tariffs that he will
put in place against persons who currently are reaming us
within a national trade And then the other thing is,
although they claim that Trump is always building his case
to add some type of questionable motives that may be
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behind the polling places as we see them report of
the November fifth. This is to make sure the American
people know if Kamala doesn't win NOVERMB of the fifth
and plainly something was wrong. And the Republicans who were
able to pull off some kind of undercover coup to
put Donald Trump back into the Oval office.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Appears that the undercover coup is going to meet from
minority groups. I mean, if you look at CNN was
in tears last night because Donald Trump is now up
to forty eight percent of the Latino vote. Last go
Joe Biden got ninety percent of the Latino vote and
almost one hundred percent of the black vote. Donald Trump's
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up around twenty eight percent in the new polls for
black votes. So minorities are leaving the Democrat Party in droves.
CNN and MSNBC can't figure it out. The MSNBC is
not talking about it. CNN's at least crying about it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I know that we've had anecdotal reports of persons who
have had their dogs and cats eaten by immigrants in Springfield,
and I know that I think that Donald Trump is
still planning to make an appearance in Springfield.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
In Aurora yes, I don't know if that's on the
calendar yet. It is, so, oh, when's that coming up?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
It's two days after he goes to n the one
in New York where he was shot at. So that's
what October fifth, I think, And so it'll be like
October seventh.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Okay, all right, so we got that coming. But the
story that at this point is only being propagated by
the New York Post and a little bit of television coverage,
but far right wing misinformation, disinformation, as it was plainly
spoken by your brother in socialism, Governor Wallas. Apparently we
get into a fever pitch here on the streets of Chicago,
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if you can believe the news reports, and I do that,
the gangs of Chicago are noun too happy with what's
been happening here with the movie and gangs from south
of the border. Particularly at this point in Chicago is
the Venezuelan's much like Aurora, Colorado, where there are predictions
now for persons who are on the street in Chicago
saying that this is going to turn into a blood bath.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
There's a word that's.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Been used quite frequently, but apparently it will become a
blood bath as we have gang turf wars in Chicago,
which we have. We have a history of gang turf wars,
and we know those can be bloody, bloody, and it
could be a blood bath. But this one in particular,
seems like these guys that I'm hearing speak and I
don't know, maybe they're actors, maybe they're making all this up,
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but the guys that I'm hearing speaking on camera in
Chicago sound dead serious. And they're not the ones that
are threatening it. They're the ones saying it's coming. Just
as persons who used to be in gang's and or
have a gang association, with the way that they see
the fever pitch, they're going to hit an inflection point.
I think in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's not Chicago, I mean Philadelphia. You have Baltimore to Philadelphia.
Venezuelan gang trend. Di Agria has over five thousand members
currently in New York City and they are warring against
the Haitian gangs. So it's their turf wars have now
moved to our cities. And yes, it's happening in Charlotte,
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North Carolina. You've got a gang war happening in Charlotte,
North Carolina, where three were murdered last week. This is
what happens when you invite this. You can see the tattoos.
Look at the New York Post this morning. You can
see the tattoos that these gang members all have. And yeah,
some of them are working as Uber Eats drivers. Some
of them are working as you know, they're working at
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your checkout stores. They're working there so that they can
have access to kill the people that they want to kill.
They're not here to try to live a productive life.
They want to kill their enemies. Now you're not their enemies. Unfortunately,
you're just going to be collateral damage when they kill
one of their own. They don't. That doesn't even make
the news, so you're not hearing a lot about it.
By the way. Also, FBI report proven completely false. If
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you want to know the actual violent crime data in cities,
it's gone up an unbelievable eighty five percent since twenty nineteen,
since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Eighteen of the Little More just schooled me this morning
that the new crime reports are out as you say,
and Joe Scarborough doubled down. So I'm sure Amika was
the third vote to make sure that it was unified
in the thought process that the FBI is telling you
crime is way down in America.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, that's well, that's what the FBI report says. So now,
the FBI does not actually hear from victims. The FBI
only hears from police departments that report it. Police report
that We already know that the police departments for decades.
This has been one of the complaints don't actually call
in all of their actual reported crime. And we also
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know a lot of people don't report crime to the
police because they're like, what's the point. I live in
a community where they come by and they steal my
car on the regular, so why would I even bother
calling in. They haven't done anything for the last eight
cars that were stolen. So when they actually what they
do is they go into do a survey. Now this
is a federal government survey of two hundred thousand Americans,
and in that survey, they feel like that's the better
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representation of what's happening. They talk to people who live
in these cities and they talk to them every like
five years and find out what's the crime like. And
so it's the same people in those cities every five years,
getting the same reports. And that's how they're able to
tell you that they're up an unbelievable eighty five percent
since twenty nineteen. So we're in one of the most
(16:33):
violent times in American history right now in the city
suburbs not as anywhere near as bad. But if you
go into a city right now, expect rape, murder, death, violence,
it's all coming. It hasn't been as bad since the
late seventies.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
So you're saying that the FBI, and we've heard this before,
but you're saying that the FBI, in particular, with the
report from the New York City Police Department, which in
fact less than a month ago made a specific report
notation that immigrant crime is up eighty five percent inside
the city, that information is not being used or is
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being suppressed from the FI.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I mean, if I want to give it on the
best possible interpretation, I can say that the FBI does
not get all of the accurate data because some police
departments don't want to report it exactly. So perhaps, I mean,
if I'm trying to get let the FBI bosses off
the hook, I could use that as an excuse. But
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you don't have to be a smart person to recognize
that when you look at cities today. They started going
down around the time of the George Floyd protests, and
when the cities announced that we wanted to defund the police,
several things happened. One, lawlessness increased at the same time
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that people who wanted to become officers decreased. At the
same time, you also had a rash of retirements happening.
So today's inner cities have less cops and more lawlessness.
Based on the actions of Kamala Harris, who was I mean,
you could almost I don't want to point to just
one person, because I mean there's obviously thousands that were
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involved in setting this up, but she was that at
that time, the most prominent person. She was a candidate
for the presidency of the United States, and she is
putting up bail money to help people get out of
jail who were arrested for looting. That I mean that
encourages lawlessness, so that that's where this is the country
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she wants.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
You know, when I heard the guy in Chicago talking
about how that he knows that there are plans by
the Venezuelans or other games from other countries that you
have mentioned in their turf battles, who plan to think
over particular quadrants of them, not a quadrant, but particular
areas of the city. I was thinking, Wow, if there
were only a rece manifestation of that activity that we
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could point to, if they're only let's say there, Let's
say that there were a place like in Europe, in
a city like London, where there were particular immigrants who
went and they didn't assemble, they just kind of migrated
to a particular place, a particular section of the city,
and then they took that over and then it became
so overwhelming with their own creation of their own law
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enforcement that would be the gang members, that the actual
London police officers would not go inside the area of
that city. If we could only point a situation or
an example like that. In twenty eighteen, and Kamala Harris says,
that's good what you see right now happening in Paris
with the burning of Paris, it's on fire. If you
(19:45):
haven't seen Paris, it's literally a blaze. She says, that's
a good thing because what we're seeing is people who
have been denied the opportunity of democracy getting that opportunity
to live their dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Great, So what are you all upset.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
About the people of Paris love it.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I know, in the middle of a very serious statement
which you made a minute ago, I chuckled in the background.
If you heard me, I was laughing at Here's the
quote again. This is Joe Biden speaking today. Some things
are more important than staying in power. People matter most.
That from Joe Biden, when you're being admonished by Joe
Biden of the Democrats, that some things are more important
(20:25):
than staying in power. Is Joe Biden making his turn
now that he's about to be ushered out of the
Oval office, swept up and taking out in a dustpan.
Is him trying to go back to his very strong
Catholic roots for suddenly humanitarianism is on his mind and
he wants to make sure that he leaves the world peaceful.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
I mean, I don't know what. I couldn't even imagine
what's going on in Joe Biden's mind. I mean, he
is He's already in the ash heap of history, like
Joe Biden is a forgotten president already, and the only
way he'll be rem he won't even be remembered, like
Jimmy Carter, like if Kamala Harris wins, then he just
(21:07):
kind of ushered in the destruction. If she loses, it
will have just been a short, little roadbump that got
in the way for three years as Donald Trump brings
America back to normalcy. But he is a failed president
by any standard. I mean, you're gonna look at the
polls today right now, Joe Biden approval rating somewhere around
twenty eight percent. Is the country moving in the right
(21:29):
direction right now? Nine percent? It's lower than what Congress
gets for an approval rating. Ninety one percent of Americans
say we're heading in the wrong direction today. So yeah, no,
he's failed.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Donald Trump made an interesting comment a couple of weeks ago,
is the first time I heard it. Then he did
it again, I think yesterday when he said that gun
owners registered voter, gun owners actual at participation in elections
is very low. I wouldn't have thought that was the case.
He said it more than a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Where do you think he's getting that stat from.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
I do not know, And I'm glad that we brought
it up today in our rash. Thought kind of brought
it up because there are two things that happened yesterday
in relation to talking about the admonishments of Donald J.
Trump having to do with participation in elections. Gun ownership
was one of the things he brought up the other day.
I think it was in Pennsylvania, I'm not sure. But
then the other one was talking about the evangelical vote
(22:23):
only showed up owner before November the fifth to actually
cast a vote, that we would win overwhelmingly in this
country and wouldn't have to worry about it anymore. Now
I realized that the Democrats the first time he said
that wanted you to believe that he was claiming then
that we would never have another election. No, what he
said was is that you wouldn't have to worry about
(22:43):
voting for your religious rights anymore if you show up
and vote, because he's going to protect your religious rights.
But nonetheless, NBC can interpret it whichever way they like.
They're fine with that now. I'm cool with it too.
Just do say whatever you want to say. But you know,
when you look at the fact fact that in his
claim that gun ownership voting.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Which is astounding to me, is it not very active.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
You would have thought people, You would have thought that
would have been the most prolific outside of the teachers'
union showing up an election day.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Well, just so we know, I mean, according to this,
when they analyze voting records from the twenty twenty election,
it shows that eighty percent of people who own guns voted,
as opposed to seventy three percent of the general population.
(23:33):
So it is you are more likely to vote if
you're a gun owner. I guess what Donald Trump is
saying possibly is that he'd like one hundred percent. We
needed the gun owners to come on out, all right.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
So then the other thing we talked about today, in
particular with our rash thought thank you for listening, is
about the evangelical vote. And Donald Trump does, in fact
with his policy, not just with his mouth, support Israel,
which is a big thing right now for the Christian voter.
But also he protects parents' rights in a lot of ways,
(24:05):
which has to do with the assault of Christianity as
you're seeing it on the left coming up through the
school system. So they're more in a couple of reasons
to vote for Donald Trump, whether you believe or not
that you know.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
In uh, what was it two Corinthians?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
The Corinthians walk into a bar. I forget what he was?
What he was trying to say, oh, he was like
in at some church.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
No, he was at it was not Bob Jones, but
was a school of light bulb.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Liberty University or something, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Liberty University.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And there was a corn of the wall for the
second Corinthian.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Two Corinthians, we love that one. That's a good one.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And then my follow up, my favorite jug two Corinthians
walk into a bar. Bartender says, why the long face
got another damn letter from Paul today? Anyway, So and
two Corinthians. Not to say that Donald Trump would necessarily
be like Jimmy Carter. He may not hold a Sunday
school class that you make sure you up in time
and showered at church on time to attend. That may
(25:04):
not be the guy. He may not even be the
guy you want to go to dinner with on a
Sunday evening. He may not even be the guy you
want to have a piece of fried chicken with after
a Sunday sermon. But the point is is that his
policies are the reason why you would have thought that
more evangelicals, if it's true that they don't show up
higher than the average registered voter, that evangelicals would in
(25:24):
fact show up. But it seems like a lot of
the evangelicals that I talked to are kind of ashamed
of his behaviors. Yes, and I'm like, you know something,
I get that, But you're not asking him the babysit.
You're not going to ask him to come into your home.
You just want him to go give you the policies
that you would like to see protected in this country
so you can continue you go to church on Sunday morning.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
By the way, I mean honest with you, there's a
large group of people in America who don't feel that way.
There's a lot of Christians who feel like they shouldn't participate.
And you and I can show them scripture all day
long that says that you should participate in politics. But
(26:08):
they would say, no, I am to be called out
of this world, and so whatever if God, God's going
to choose the leaders anyway, so it doesn't matter if
I vote. And that's the way they feel about it.
And I'm certainly not going to support a man who's
cheated on every one of his wives. I'm not certainly
not going to support somebody who's pro abortion. So I'm
not going to And they can just go through a
laundry list of reasons that they wouldn't support either candidate. Basically,
(26:33):
until Jesus Christ is on the ballot, they're not voting.
So that's the way they are, and you're not going
to do much to change them. For those of you
who are possibly struggling with the idea that I'm supporting
Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is an embarrassment because he
says outlandish things and he mocks people. He does not
(26:55):
act very Christianese. There's a new whole out talking about
how many people look at either Donald Trump or Kamala
Harris or Joe Biden as a Christian And right now,
only fourteen percent of Americans say that you could use
the word Christian to describe any of those people. So
(27:18):
while they make like Donald Trump says he's a Presbyterian,
Joe Biden's a Catholic, Kamala Harris is a Baptist, most
Americans don't think that they represent that. And again, it's
not for us to judge. I mean, I know that,
and James, it'll talk about you want to judge a
(27:41):
tree by its fruit? Are they producing Christian fruit? It
doesn't seem as if any of them are I'm not
here to slam any of them and their Christian beliefs
or non Christian beliefs or whatever. I'm just saying that
of the three, none of them seem to be Christians
to anybody voting, So that is you just got to
(28:02):
put that one to the side. Then would it be
great if there was an evangelical running for office. Sure,
they're not there, So then to your point, you got
to pick one that would align more closely with the
values that you hold to be in like keeping churches open.
(28:22):
When they say separation of church and state. That's one
that the Democrats are able to get a little bit
of traction on because that is something that we hold
dear to us. And it just depends on how you
interpret that. Our understanding of the original intent of that
was to keep the government out of the church's business,
(28:44):
not to prohibit the church from having any say on
what happens politically.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And I'm not here, and I don't think anybody would
ever try to make the argument that we're voting for
Donald Trump because somehow he is a even a close
manifestation of what we want Jesus to be. If he
were going to be the president I'm just saying, I
need a good John the Baptist right now. I need
a good John the Baptist coming before Jesus and calling
out the vipers. And you know, I need a rough
(29:11):
and tough kind of John the Baptist guy. I mean,
he can survive in any environment. Here's a guy at
eight locusts for God's sake. So I'm and he's willing
to walk up in any township and call out even
the san heedrum.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
For Pete's sake.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I want that guy. That's that's more of the Donald J.
Trump biblical character I would associate him with.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Well, that's unfortunately not the way most Christians feel. The
ones that are identify as evangelicals don't feel that way.
They want someone to that they can. You want your
leader to represent you, and if your leader does not
behave in a way that you feel is something that
you can be proud of, then they don't want that
guy or gal. But when I look at this survey
(29:52):
conducted September twelfth through the sixteenth by the Associated Press,
they're saying that for the majority of Americans now, so
they're looking at two different groups here. They're looking at
evangelicals and evangelicals are not as likely to vote for
Donald Trump as the just the non evangelical.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Just put it that way.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
They're saying that of those people that are non evangelical
right now, seventy nine percent don't care about his Christian beliefs.
They don't care how he behaves. They're not interested. They
don't care what he does in his personal time. Yeah,
so they don't care what he tweets, they don't care
what he says. They just care what kind of policies
will he promote? And that's I guess good news.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
It'd be great if you could have a guy who
you were constantly proud of. Sure, but we don't have that.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And you know, I mean, I'm going to say something.
I need him to do a certain job. I mean,
would it be great to have Franklin Graham in the
oval office as your president? Can't think of a more
upstanding man to have. Now, would Franklin Graham sit across
the table from ch and she's really going to be
quaking in his boot. That's when Franklin Graham would say,
let me introduce you to my defense spokesperson is Donald J. Trump,
(31:09):
and have him sit down.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well, I mean think about this. You could have had
basically Franklin Graham. You chose not to have him because
Mike Pence is Franklin Graham incarnate. I mean, that's basically
Mike Pence is that guy. He talks like Franklin Graham,
he acts like him, he walks like him, he says
all the you know. Remember, Mike Pence was the one
who was mocked for having the same rule that Franklin
(31:33):
Graham has. I will not ride in an elevator with
a woman alone. I will not have a meeting with
a woman one on one. I will always have somebody
else in the room with us. Mike Pence was mocked
for that. Franklin Graham has been celebrated for that. So
he ran for president. Republicans said, don't care, don't want him,
Franklin Graham, or excuse me, Franklin Graham. Possibly Mike Pence
(31:55):
has been judged to be weak because of a lot
of his Christian beliefs. I think, so it's tough. It's
a tough sell. You want somebody who's strong. Oftentimes they're
going to use coarse language. Oftentimes they're going to behave
in ways that we wouldn't and you know, I'm certainly
not comparing Donald Trump to King David. However, that is
(32:19):
an example of a leader who God said was after
his own heart. But human beings would have judged King
David as a tremendously flawed person, someone who impregnated his neighbor,
who then lied and cheated in order to get her
husband murdered. I mean, these are not the qualities she
would say, that's my guy. But he was judged to
(32:43):
be a great king for Israel. And yes, he impregnated
his neighbor and then lied and cheated to get her
husband murdered.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
That happened every.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Time I hear King David's name now or actually I
learned this, I don't know if I guess I learned
it through casual conversation. So this may not hold up
to an Internet scrutiny the truth. But you know, you
think what he got. He got his neighbor pregnant. You
know when Bathsheba was on the roof next door. Now,
I'd always kind of blame that on the absence of
cable television. If there had been a good college football
(33:13):
game on Ken, David would have been upstairs instead of
at the war. He would have been up stairs watching
Tennessee play oh Miss, but that wasn't availability. So he's
wandering around, you know, And now he's checking out the
next door rooftops and Bathsheba's somebody's taking a bath, and
I'm thinking, how bizarre is that the woman's up on
the roof taking a bath? Now would why would that be?
(33:36):
They were like, well, you idiot, they would bring the
water up and then put it on the bathtub on
top of the building because the sun would heat the water.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Like really, So there's another thing that you just learned.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Just now.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I get to go, and I haven't thought about that
since that conversation. I'm gonna have to go put that
to the internet test. I wonder if that's true.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
The other thing used to think about when he did that,
he had eight wives eight He had eight women that
he's responsible to for all marital duties. On top of it,
and estimated six hundred concubines, women who were just there
(34:18):
to sexually gratify him. And yet that was not enough
out of the I mean, how could you, how could
you possibly do that? I don't even know like six
hundred women. You certainly can't even remember all their names, no,
and how do you pick like today is do they
(34:39):
just have him in a rotation like today, I'm going
to sleep with wife number one and concubine number two
hundred and thirty seven. Tomorrow it's wife number eight, you
concubine two hundred and thirty's And they're all hoping. I
don't get my number called. I don't want my number called.
I like the free meals I'm getting here.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
This is a good time.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
It was the the Rockefeller of Flesh.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
And the Bible said, God said the King David, and
if you had asked for more, I'd have given it
to you.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
And that's how they knew that he was near death.
The virgin presented herself and he wasn't interested.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Oh the one who warmed him at the near the end,
I mean, but I I just I just don't know how.
And Beth Sheeba must have been a head looker.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
She must have been.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I got six hundred women in the barn back here.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
She's so hot. He's one of my best warriors, and
I'm going to send him to the front line and
have him killed. That's how hot she is.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
And one of my best friends, yes, one of my
best friends.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
When going to the front line, and then draw back
from him and leave him out there by himself.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Well, now that we know that she's pregnant, call him
home and we're going to get him to sleep with her. Now, oh,
what are you doing at my house? Go go sleep
with your wife.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
I can't go sleep with my wife while my men
are battling.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
He slept onder the your step for three nights.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I will not enjoy my wife's company until all of
our men are home. All right, we'll send him back
and kill him at the last second. Everybody pulled back,
let the let him, let him kill him, lie and
cheat and murderer.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
That's King David. Good thing he's not running for president.
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