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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Shows.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Do you think your party can take a shutdown?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Kelly Nash?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I think that the people want to see a stand
up to Trump, and that's one way to show will
take ebon it, not just to accept him bully and
Kelly show.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
That's what it is. You're going to facilitate a bully.
You're gonna let this government shut down? Go you you
You're just gonna let Trump bully his way through Washington.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, I mean I saw the Democrats making a strong
pushback yesterday and all the Sunday shows. What we have
here is Donald Trump refusing to negotiate. Nobody gets their
way completely in politics. We've heard that our whole lives.
It's the art of what's possible, not the art of
what I want. And so Donald Trump is and the
Republicans are the ones that are actually going to shut
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down the government. Is there not even gonna allow us?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Like what did Obama say? Obama tweeted out something he
threaded the needle, as Peggy Noonan explained yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Is that where she said he threaded the noodle, the noodle,
the noodle, how threaded the noodle?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
He might have that's something he might be into.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I was what I'm told, that's what I've heard about Obama.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
He threaded the needle yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't know if Barack Obama actually threaded the needle.
I'm going to read his tweet to us and we
can decide together. Republicans would rather shut down the government
than help millions of Americans afford healthcare.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's his tweet. Okay, so we're finally going to get
to the point where the Democrats want. They want you
absolutely to set your new financial standard for the federal
government spending at COVID levels, because a lot of this
money that they're talking about was, as it was explained
(01:40):
by Foon the other day or yesterday, I guess again
it's explained by many times, is that we had an
expansion of Medicare that we don't need. There's no reason
for a lot of people with the income levels that
they have to be included in the expansion of Medicare,
in particular, just using that as one specific example.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, okay, I'm going to read to you from the
article that Obama linked to, which was a USA Today article,
and it points out twenty four million Americans receive subsidies
to help reduce their out of pocket costs for healthcare insurance.
This is obtained through the health insurance Marketplace, which was
created in twenty ten is known as the Affordable Care Act,
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or some would say Obamacare. Impending changes to the subsidy
amounts limits to who get who can get them lie
at the root of Congress's fight over the funding the government.
A battle is expected to come to a head on
September thirtieth, that is, tomorrow, when the current funding authority
runs out. Without a bipartisan deal, the government will then
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shut down. The health insurance premium is expected to jump
from zero to fifteen hundred dollars a month, So people
who are paying zero are now going to be expected
to pay fifteen hundred dollars a month. Four million Americans
are going to take it in the shorts right now,
fifteen hundred a month. And you're okay with that. You know,
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something is amazing to me.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
How we It's like playing a statistics game you can extrapulate,
because this is how big we've allowed the government to get.
This is the first problem. We've allowed it to get
so big, and the legislation is so long, long, and
winding and is so intertwined now that it's really hard
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to discern until you have a new law and the
dust actually settles to the point where you can see
the ramifications of that law. As to how much of
what Fune is saying is true versus how much Obama is.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Saying is true, well, I would say I'm not only
okay with twenty four million Americans going from zero a
month to fifteen hundred a month. I'm ecstatic about it.
And the reason I'm ecstatic about it is because the
people who've been paying zero a month have actually been
getting crap care. That is what Obamacare is. It's crapcre
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I know because my son is one of those people
who've been receiving crap care for a while. Once he
turned twenty six, he's not allowed to be on my healthcare,
so he has to get his own and he's not
able to get a full time job due to his
mental capabilities and his autism, and so he has to
suffer with this crap care. So on top of it,
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the roughly fifty to one hundred million Americans that actually
have to go through the marketplace to get some sort
of health care, or they believe that they have to
go through that to get some sort of health care.
They too, are spending thousands a year for crap care coverage.
Had the marketplace been the free market, every single americans
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healthcare insurance would be better. Instead, what they did in
twenty ten screwed literally the entire marketplace. Every American's healthcare,
even the rich, have worse healthcare today.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Than they would have had.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The amount of doctors that retired between twenty ten and
twenty fifteen is still staggering. You lost like sixty percent
of the medical community just gone poof why they didn't
want to deal with this crap. They had enough money
they did they tapped out. If you were to actually
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return it to normal and say, huh, these companies can
compete for my business. What happens in competition, People give more,
they get lower profits. The healthcare industry has been booming
since Obamacare. If anybody thinks that your health companies are
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making less money in twenty twenty five than they were
in twenty ten, you're not looking at your stock portfolio
very well. They are rolling in it.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What was the announcement we just made in today's paper.
There is a new hospital being built it's in the
front page of the posting courier, because we're talking about
a lot of these rural hospitals that we've been warned
are going to have to shut down because of if
you roll back the Medicare expansion, these hospitals are not
going to make enough money to continue to operate. So
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we'll lose rural hospitals, which we already know the impact
of that if that were the case. And this is
where I don't think even the House of the Senate understands, because,
as I pointed to a minute ago, we've gotten so
entrenched into the public and the private sector has gotten
so entrenched in so many different applications of what used
to be as exclusively as Kelly mentioned private center competition
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delivered products and or service that was driven by the
marketplace and or by the consumer, that I don't even
take the word of the Nonpartisan Budget Office anymore with
the way that they project what's going to happen in
any congressional spending measure. I mean, it's the same is
true with Powell as we saw it the other day
when he was talking about with the cost of living
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at the CPI when they came out the other day,
our economy is on fire, and he really should have
lowered the interest rates, as Trump has been screaming a
year ago. But we didn't because we had all of
these experts in Washington telling us what the economy was
doing as opposed to what in reality is doing. They're
always trying to give us their own shaded perspective of
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the economy so they can have a legislation that they
can write and pass supposedly for our own good, which
ends up hamstringing us seemingly since the dollar was first printed, yeah,
I mean we got that. We also have.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I don't know how many illegals it is that we're covering.
So when they talk about cutting a trillion dollars, that
seems like a lot of money to me. A trillion dollars.
I don't know how many people have to pay taxes
to get to a trillion dollars. Like if you pay
federally ten grand a year in taxes, or twenty grand
a year, or fifty grand a year, or one hundred
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grand a year, or even if he paid a million
dollars a year, we would need a billion of you,
a billion of you to get to the trillion. To
that's what we're trying to save by kicking illegals off
the Medicare program. So when they talk about cuts to Medicare,
what they're talking about is they want to kick illegals
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off the program, and the program, as designed, as Joe
Wilson pointed out, insures illegals. Joe Wilson was condemned and
he apologized for speaking out at the It wasn't a
State of the Union. It was a joint session of Congress.
Everybody errantly calls the State of the Union address, but
it was a joint session of Congress in which Obama
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said that his plan would not cover illegals, and Joe
Wilson stood up and yeld you lie, and he was right,
and Obama was lying.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Obama knew what was in the plan.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's not like Obama forgot whoopsie, So.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
He was lying. They all were lying.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Nancy Pelosi was lying when she said we have to
pass the bill to find out what's in the bill.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
She already knew what was here the needle.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Is that what we call lying now is threading the needle.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I'm not sure still, I'll go back and listen to
Peggy Newtan's condescension description of that now yesterday's meet the Press.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
In the last fifteen years, the life expectancy for Americans
has dropped by two and a half years. The average
cost for an insurance plan has risen by sixty eight
hundred dollars. You're paying more, getting worse. Why because Obamacare
changed the game. Now we've got a whole crew of Americans,
I mean the vast majority of Americans who believe that
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Obamacare helps them. This is part of the great gas
lighting of America. You have been sold a bill of
goods in may A, and you're made to feel. You
feel in your heart of hearts, not only does it
help those who are on the lower rung of prosperity,
but it helps you in the middle class that somehow
you're better off right now than you would have been
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had Obamacare not come along. That is a lie from
the pit of hell. And this is part of the
destruction of America. If they want to die on this hill,
let them die on this hill.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
And how entwined is it? Like I mentioned a minute ago,
the new water mark for services provided by the federal government.
So if you take the COVID and everything, Kelly's saying
about Obamacare is certainly it's true. We were screaming about
it when they first even introduced it, let alone pasted it,
and then screaming more with persons who we talked to
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at the time who knew that, given the way the
Obamacare was set up, you either couldn't afford the premium
or you needed to quit your job. So you're Obamacare
becomes part of just one of your entitlements because everybody
gets an Obama phone, you get an Obama phone, everybody
gets all the services that was the new standard. So
and we talked to persons who sat down with their
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family budget and realized we would have more disposable income
if we quit our jobs and just signed up for
all the government supplied benefits. But now the war to
mark has been so accepted now not just the intertwining
of public and private from a business office perspective to
the federal government, but to the persons who receive it.
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They've actually been gas lit to the point where they
believe that if you take this away from me, you're
going to be hurting me, when in fact, the pain
is the first process of the gain, because you're hurting
everybody with this over reach of the federal government, and
the Republicans are starting to feel the heat because people
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are calling their offices, I'm assuming and saying, hey, we're
going to lose whatever it is they're going to lose
as an entitlement. So now they're having to actually either
go along with the gas lighting because that's what the
constituents believe, which may in fact create a little bit
of an opportunity for the Democrats in the negotiations.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
All the Democrats have played this masterfully. They have got
they have spun it so that if the government shuts down,
it's the Republican's fault, and a lot of Americans seem
to agree with that. And yet every Republican will vote,
every single one will vote to not shut down the
government this time, and yet when it does shut down,
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it'll be their fault. That's that's almost we paid an
Etsy witch to put a spell on the American public
so that they can't understand basic numbers. The numbers say
every American Republican is voting to keep the government open,
every Democrat is voting to close it. And you're saying, somehow,
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through your twisted, warped mind, it's the Republican's fault that
the government shuts down.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yes, because they will not give the Democrats what they want,
which aligns with gimme, gimme, gimme. And on the gimme
side of the equation, a lot of people are lining
up on that side.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I mean, again, just the numbers don't lie. Every Republican
votes to open the government, every Republican votes to shut
down the government, and the party to blame is the
Republicans who voted to keep it open. When it shut
that doesn't make sense. That means you have some sort
of mental illness or you're under the spell of an
Etsy Witch.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, today Donald Trump will be meeting with Thune from
the Senate and Schumer. He'll also be meeting in the
same meeting with Johnson and Hakeem so that they can
have a negotiation that Chuck Schumer says, he offered that
he took off the table. Now he's offered again. Then
he took it off the table. Now he's actually going
to do it. So Schumer says, you're either going to
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negotiate with us, or you're going to shut down the government.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, I mean, I wonder what a Hakeem is like.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Behind closed doors. Do you think he talks.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
As bold to Donald Trump as he does to the microphones.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I mean, even when he's talking bold, his voice cracks
a little bit. So it makes me wonder if he's
already thinking about Donald Trump. Yeah, we will unmask every
of the ICE agents necessary.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Must all be exposed. What a weirdo. It's an unfortunate
thing he is to communicate through. Hey here in South Carolina,
and we were talking about this today in our rast thought.
I did not even realized that this was on the docket,
But there was a delegation of seven South Carolina lawmakers
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who traveled as part of the diplomatic mission to Israel.
Now this comes, I guess in the shadow of the UN. Well,
it comes. I don't know when this trip was.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Was it was like earlier this month, a couple of
weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay, okay, okay. Since then, we've seen BBNT Yahoo come
to the UN. The country's actually got up and left
while he was speaking. So this is a what appeared
to be a worldwide pr opportunity for Israel to try
to get people to come here and see in person.
And there were seven members of our General Assembly who
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made the trip. The only i think the lone Jewish
member not just on this trip, but Jewish member in
the General Assembly. Beth Bernstein was among them, and there
were six others who went, Michael Caasky and some of
the other people that Luke Rank and some of the
other names that we talk about here a lot because
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they are high ranking South Carolina officials. They all went
to Israel for a little guided tour.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, I mean, Benjamin Yahoo is again this is one
of those weird things where all the facts should be
on Benjamin Ninyaho side. Seventeen hundred of his citizens slaughtered
in a day by a group who proclaimed it, danced
about it, hamas the babies, the women they raped, they
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did all that, filmed it, put it up on the internet,
and then bragged about it, then took a bunch of
his citizens and others hostage. Those people two years later
still being held hostage, although though sometimes they'll play a
little game with you and they'll tell you that we're
going to release one of the dead hostages, and then
you find out that they didn't put a dead hostage
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in there, they put somebody else in there. So I mean,
this is the fun of Hamas. So you would think
that the entire.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
World fun in Hamas. This is haha.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, they're putting the haha in Hamas. Lord, we're gonna,
you know, the family can gather for the funeral finally,
and instead when you open it up, there's a Hey,
it's not my mom, it's a it's a guy. It's
a terrorist who you killed over here and.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Correct me if we're wrong. But they claim they have
like forty three hostages, but only twenty of twenty some
they believe to be alive.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You know, I haven't checked.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
That was the report I heard on th deal Friday, and.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That sounds I guess that would be about right. But
they are not releasing the hostages. And some are saying
that Benjamin Etna, who doesn't want them to release the
hostages so that he has an excuse to continue this
onslaught into ENID. It's a genocide, is what they continue
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to say. And one of those people who agree with
that assessment apparently is Republican from South Carolina, Michael Caskey.
Micah went on the tour that was provided by the
Israeli Defense Forces. They marched him around and showed him
everything that they're saying. Now, we have several other comments
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from other legislators who came down on the side of
Israel after seeing it. They can't believe how close it is.
They can't believe the horrific acts of Hamas, and they
can't believe that they have not released the hostages to
try to end this thing. And they also recognize that
the AID, not only the food aid, but more importantly
the medicine aid, is being stolen by Hamas and then
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sold to the Palestinians and at exorbitant prices in order
to fund their war against Israel. That's I think everybody
agrees with that. Even MIKEA. Casky agrees with that. I believe,
so everybody's in agreement that Hamas is doing this to
the Palestinians, and that they're hiding in the you know,
they're hiding in the hospitals, they're building their death tunnels
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through all of these schools and whatnot. So if you're
going to fight Hamas, they're going to be wrapped in
a cloak of children. You're going to have to kill
the children to get to them. That's understandable. Now there's
sixty six thousand dead Palestinians today. Micah's point was, seventeen
hundred dead Israelis cannot justify sixty six thousand dead Palestinians.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You have to end this. You know, when you realize
that your only bargaining ship are the hostages, there's no
reason to believe you're ever going to release them, because
the one thing you can't lose is one of your
main influx of income, which is a grocery store selling
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food provided by the UN, primarily by the US, I'm sure,
so that they can continue to fight this battle. Otherwise
they're going to end up literally with nothing but sticks
and stones, and at that point Israel is going to
kick their rear end. So if you if that's your
only play, because there is nothing unless the unless the
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UN steps in and determines it will be a two
state solution, it sends in the Blue Helmets to actually
enforce that, then this is going to continue and Hamas
is going to get wiped off the face of the
earth net. And Yahoo knows that that's his that as
plainly said, that's his goal. So I get it, but
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I don't know how in the world you can come
away from that saying that sixty six hundred persons who
insisted on continuing to attack Israel Is somehow an overreach
or a non proportional retaliation when there were only seventeen
hundred peacefully living in a lot of them at a
concert for God's sake at the time, Persons who paid
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the ultimate penalty for what has been a war torn
district since since Jesus walked through that area.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Well, and you said sixty six hundred, I think you
meant to say sixty six thousand. I'm sorry, But I
also I do the characterization that they that those are
all even pro Hamas. I'll go ahead and I'll take
the neutral side on that, and I'll say many of
them were not pro Hamas, that many of them are
actual victims of Hamas, that many of them don't want
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Hamas as their leaders. I'll go ahead and argue that
side as well. But I will say that Hamas is
the one who got these people killed, that Hamas is
the one using them as shields. If somebody grabs a
hostage at a bank robbery and walks out holding a
gun to their head, and through whatever force the police
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are doing to try to neutralize that person, the innocent
ends up dying. That is not the fault of the police.
That is the fault of the person who took them hostage.
All Palestinians are hostage right now under Hamas. Now some
of them are willing hostages and some of them are not.
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But this is not the problem. This is not something
that Israel is doing. More likely, I think it would
be a safe for bet to say this is something
that the United Arab Emirates, and that Egypt, and that
all of the Turkey. You can go through all the
laundry lists, Jordan, Qatar, all of those people, all those countries.
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This is something that they're not doing. They're not helping,
they're not getting involved and going in and telling Hamas
enough's enough, you're done. You're all done here, there's no
because we can't negotiate with you. You're insane and you're
making this a really bad situation. And just finally, I'll
also point out, when you talk about genocide, the Palestinians
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ironically are one of the top ten fastest growing populations
on Earth according to the data between twenty twenty and
twenty twenty five, which makes it a very hard argument
that they've been suffering under a genocide for a decade.
They're outpacing the United States, They're outpacing Canada, they're outpacing Mexico.
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As a matter of fact, there's nobody in our hemisphere
growing as fast as the Palestinians are.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And what's been said since I guess not day one,
but let's say a month into it, maybe not now?
Who's been saying this can end today? But Hamas will
have to end it.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Absolutely that, I mean, how else could it end Hamas?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Otherwise it will not end. It will only be a
reoccurrence of what they've been going through again since Jesus, Well,
not all the way back whenever Hamas was first created
under the as as the supposed non military force of
the Palestinians.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, that would have been early two thousand, right, And
so you can go back to the nineties though, and
Bill Clinton was the president. Hillary famously told the story
of Bill Clinton offering a two state solution. They didn't
want it, the Palestinians. See, this is the way you
can test the theory. If Israel, what does what is
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Hamas's demands for the ending of this war? That is
not peace, That is not what they're asking for. That
is not what they want, They want Israel to no
longer exist as a state. So we're I guess we're
both in the same position. The Israelis are saying that
they're willing to accept a Palestinian state, but it must
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come with certain restrictions, and the Hamas is saying there
can be no Israeli state. So they both really don't
want the other one to survive, although Israel is the
only one that is saying that they're willing to allow
it to survive if there's certain restrictions put upon it.
Ask that of the Hamas leaders, what if we said
right now that there's going to be Israel, and you
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and the UN will make sure that neither one of
you attack either each you know, anybody, there'll be no
more death. That is not an acceptable offer. They will
not take.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
That Israel has to be wiped off the face of
the earth. Yes now. And because the UN is firmly, firmly,
not firmly behind the Hamas, but certainly is in a
lot of countries. Here is kelly point of that just
several of the laundry list supporting Hamas in their efforts,
even though they're trying to get them at least bridled.
The next demand is is that the US be wiped
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off the.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Face of the earth, which seems fair.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, we're all dying under Obamacare anyway, you might as
well give them the land.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I mean, didn't we colonize everybody? It's our fault any
of this happened. There was no war till the white
man got to America.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Realist bastards h
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Shows.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Do you think your party can take a shutdown?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Kelly Nash?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I think that the people want to see a stand
up to Trump, and that's one way to show will
take ebon it, not just to accept him bully and
Kelly show.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
That's what it is. You're going to facilitate a bully.
You're gonna let this government shut down? Go you you
You're just gonna let Trump bully his way through Washington.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, I mean I saw the Democrats making a strong
pushback yesterday and all the Sunday shows. What we have
here is Donald Trump refusing to negotiate. Nobody gets their
way completely in politics. We've heard that our whole lives.
It's the art of what's possible, not the art of
what I want. And so Donald Trump is and the
Republicans are the ones that are actually going to shut
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down the government. Is there not even gonna allow us?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Like what did Obama say? Obama tweeted out something he
threaded the needle, as Peggy Noonan explained yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Is that where she said he threaded the noodle, the noodle,
the noodle, how threaded the noodle?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
He might have that's something he might be into.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I was what I'm told, that's what I've heard about Obama.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
He threaded the needle yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't know if Barack Obama actually threaded the needle.
I'm going to read his tweet to us and we
can decide together. Republicans would rather shut down the government
than help millions of Americans afford healthcare.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's his tweet. Okay, so we're finally going to get
to the point where the Democrats want. They want you
absolutely to set your new financial standard for the federal
government spending at COVID levels, because a lot of this
money that they're talking about was, as it was explained
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by Foon the other day or yesterday, I guess again
it's explained by many times, is that we had an
expansion of Medicare that we don't need. There's no reason
for a lot of people with the income levels that
they have to be included in the expansion of Medicare,
in particular, just using that as one specific example.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, okay, I'm going to read to you from the
article that Obama linked to, which was a USA Today article,
and it points out twenty four million Americans receive subsidies
to help reduce their out of pocket costs for healthcare insurance.
This is obtained through the health insurance Marketplace, which was
created in twenty ten is known as the Affordable Care Act,
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or some would say Obamacare. Impending changes to the subsidy
amounts limits to who get who can get them lie
at the root of Congress's fight over the funding the government.
A battle is expected to come to a head on
September thirtieth, that is, tomorrow, when the current funding authority
runs out. Without a bipartisan deal, the government will then
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shut down. The health insurance premium is expected to jump
from zero to fifteen hundred dollars a month, So people
who are paying zero are now going to be expected
to pay fifteen hundred dollars a month. Four million Americans
are going to take it in the shorts right now,
fifteen hundred a month. And you're okay with that. You know,
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something is amazing to me.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
How we It's like playing a statistics game you can extrapulate,
because this is how big we've allowed the government to get.
This is the first problem. We've allowed it to get
so big, and the legislation is so long, long, and
winding and is so intertwined now that it's really hard
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to discern until you have a new law and the
dust actually settles to the point where you can see
the ramifications of that law. As to how much of
what Fune is saying is true versus how much Obama is.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Saying is true, well, I would say I'm not only
okay with twenty four million Americans going from zero a
month to fifteen hundred a month. I'm ecstatic about it.
And the reason I'm ecstatic about it is because the
people who've been paying zero a month have actually been
getting crap care. That is what Obamacare is. It's crapcre
(04:06):
I know because my son is one of those people
who've been receiving crap care for a while. Once he
turned twenty six, he's not allowed to be on my healthcare,
so he has to get his own and he's not
able to get a full time job due to his
mental capabilities and his autism, and so he has to
suffer with this crap care. So on top of it,
(04:31):
the roughly fifty to one hundred million Americans that actually
have to go through the marketplace to get some sort
of health care, or they believe that they have to
go through that to get some sort of health care.
They too, are spending thousands a year for crap care coverage.
Had the marketplace been the free market, every single americans
(04:53):
healthcare insurance would be better. Instead, what they did in
twenty ten screwed literally the entire marketplace. Every American's healthcare,
even the rich, have worse healthcare today.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Than they would have had.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The amount of doctors that retired between twenty ten and
twenty fifteen is still staggering. You lost like sixty percent
of the medical community just gone poof why they didn't
want to deal with this crap. They had enough money
they did they tapped out. If you were to actually
(05:27):
return it to normal and say, huh, these companies can
compete for my business. What happens in competition, People give more,
they get lower profits. The healthcare industry has been booming
since Obamacare. If anybody thinks that your health companies are
(05:51):
making less money in twenty twenty five than they were
in twenty ten, you're not looking at your stock portfolio
very well. They are rolling in it.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What was the announcement we just made in today's paper.
There is a new hospital being built it's in the
front page of the posting courier, because we're talking about
a lot of these rural hospitals that we've been warned
are going to have to shut down because of if
you roll back the Medicare expansion, these hospitals are not
going to make enough money to continue to operate. So
(06:22):
we'll lose rural hospitals, which we already know the impact
of that if that were the case. And this is
where I don't think even the House of the Senate understands, because,
as I pointed to a minute ago, we've gotten so
entrenched into the public and the private sector has gotten
so entrenched in so many different applications of what used
to be as exclusively as Kelly mentioned private center competition
(06:46):
delivered products and or service that was driven by the
marketplace and or by the consumer, that I don't even
take the word of the Nonpartisan Budget Office anymore with
the way that they project what's going to happen in
any congressional spending measure. I mean, it's the same is
true with Powell as we saw it the other day
when he was talking about with the cost of living
(07:07):
at the CPI when they came out the other day,
our economy is on fire, and he really should have
lowered the interest rates, as Trump has been screaming a
year ago. But we didn't because we had all of
these experts in Washington telling us what the economy was
doing as opposed to what in reality is doing. They're
always trying to give us their own shaded perspective of
(07:30):
the economy so they can have a legislation that they
can write and pass supposedly for our own good, which
ends up hamstringing us seemingly since the dollar was first printed, yeah,
I mean we got that. We also have.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I don't know how many illegals it is that we're covering.
So when they talk about cutting a trillion dollars, that
seems like a lot of money to me. A trillion dollars.
I don't know how many people have to pay taxes
to get to a trillion dollars. Like if you pay
federally ten grand a year in taxes, or twenty grand
a year, or fifty grand a year, or one hundred
(08:11):
grand a year, or even if he paid a million
dollars a year, we would need a billion of you,
a billion of you to get to the trillion. To
that's what we're trying to save by kicking illegals off
the Medicare program. So when they talk about cuts to Medicare,
what they're talking about is they want to kick illegals
(08:34):
off the program, and the program, as designed, as Joe
Wilson pointed out, insures illegals. Joe Wilson was condemned and
he apologized for speaking out at the It wasn't a
State of the Union. It was a joint session of Congress.
Everybody errantly calls the State of the Union address, but
it was a joint session of Congress in which Obama
(08:55):
said that his plan would not cover illegals, and Joe
Wilson stood up and yeld you lie, and he was right,
and Obama was lying.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Obama knew what was in the plan.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's not like Obama forgot whoopsie, So.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
He was lying. They all were lying.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Nancy Pelosi was lying when she said we have to
pass the bill to find out what's in the bill.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
She already knew what was here the needle.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Is that what we call lying now is threading the needle.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I'm not sure still, I'll go back and listen to
Peggy Newtan's condescension description of that now yesterday's meet the Press.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
In the last fifteen years, the life expectancy for Americans
has dropped by two and a half years. The average
cost for an insurance plan has risen by sixty eight
hundred dollars. You're paying more, getting worse. Why because Obamacare
changed the game. Now we've got a whole crew of Americans,
I mean the vast majority of Americans who believe that
(09:51):
Obamacare helps them. This is part of the great gas
lighting of America. You have been sold a bill of
goods in may A, and you're made to feel. You
feel in your heart of hearts, not only does it
help those who are on the lower rung of prosperity,
but it helps you in the middle class that somehow
you're better off right now than you would have been
(10:13):
had Obamacare not come along. That is a lie from
the pit of hell. And this is part of the
destruction of America. If they want to die on this hill,
let them die on this hill.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
And how entwined is it? Like I mentioned a minute ago,
the new water mark for services provided by the federal government.
So if you take the COVID and everything, Kelly's saying
about Obamacare is certainly it's true. We were screaming about
it when they first even introduced it, let alone pasted it,
and then screaming more with persons who we talked to
(10:49):
at the time who knew that, given the way the
Obamacare was set up, you either couldn't afford the premium
or you needed to quit your job. So you're Obamacare
becomes part of just one of your entitlements because everybody
gets an Obama phone, you get an Obama phone, everybody
gets all the services that was the new standard. So
and we talked to persons who sat down with their
(11:11):
family budget and realized we would have more disposable income
if we quit our jobs and just signed up for
all the government supplied benefits. But now the war to
mark has been so accepted now not just the intertwining
of public and private from a business office perspective to
the federal government, but to the persons who receive it.
(11:32):
They've actually been gas lit to the point where they
believe that if you take this away from me, you're
going to be hurting me, when in fact, the pain
is the first process of the gain, because you're hurting
everybody with this over reach of the federal government, and
the Republicans are starting to feel the heat because people
(11:52):
are calling their offices, I'm assuming and saying, hey, we're
going to lose whatever it is they're going to lose
as an entitlement. So now they're having to actually either
go along with the gas lighting because that's what the
constituents believe, which may in fact create a little bit
of an opportunity for the Democrats in the negotiations.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
All the Democrats have played this masterfully. They have got
they have spun it so that if the government shuts down,
it's the Republican's fault, and a lot of Americans seem
to agree with that. And yet every Republican will vote,
every single one will vote to not shut down the
government this time, and yet when it does shut down,
(12:37):
it'll be their fault. That's that's almost we paid an
Etsy witch to put a spell on the American public
so that they can't understand basic numbers. The numbers say
every American Republican is voting to keep the government open,
every Democrat is voting to close it. And you're saying, somehow,
(12:59):
through your twisted, warped mind, it's the Republican's fault that
the government shuts down.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yes, because they will not give the Democrats what they want,
which aligns with gimme, gimme, gimme. And on the gimme
side of the equation, a lot of people are lining
up on that side.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I mean, again, just the numbers don't lie. Every Republican
votes to open the government, every Republican votes to shut
down the government, and the party to blame is the
Republicans who voted to keep it open. When it shut
that doesn't make sense. That means you have some sort
of mental illness or you're under the spell of an
Etsy Witch.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, today Donald Trump will be meeting with Thune from
the Senate and Schumer. He'll also be meeting in the
same meeting with Johnson and Hakeem so that they can
have a negotiation that Chuck Schumer says, he offered that
he took off the table. Now he's offered again. Then
he took it off the table. Now he's actually going
to do it. So Schumer says, you're either going to
(13:56):
negotiate with us, or you're going to shut down the government.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, I mean, I wonder what a Hakeem is like.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Behind closed doors. Do you think he talks.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
As bold to Donald Trump as he does to the microphones.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I mean, even when he's talking bold, his voice cracks
a little bit. So it makes me wonder if he's
already thinking about Donald Trump. Yeah, we will unmask every
of the ICE agents necessary.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Must all be exposed. What a weirdo. It's an unfortunate
thing he is to communicate through. Hey here in South Carolina,
and we were talking about this today in our rast thought.
I did not even realized that this was on the docket,
But there was a delegation of seven South Carolina lawmakers
(14:41):
who traveled as part of the diplomatic mission to Israel.
Now this comes, I guess in the shadow of the UN. Well,
it comes. I don't know when this trip was.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Was it was like earlier this month, a couple of
weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay, okay, okay. Since then, we've seen BBNT Yahoo come
to the UN. The country's actually got up and left
while he was speaking. So this is a what appeared
to be a worldwide pr opportunity for Israel to try
to get people to come here and see in person.
And there were seven members of our General Assembly who
(15:14):
made the trip. The only i think the lone Jewish
member not just on this trip, but Jewish member in
the General Assembly. Beth Bernstein was among them, and there
were six others who went, Michael Caasky and some of
the other people that Luke Rank and some of the
other names that we talk about here a lot because
(15:35):
they are high ranking South Carolina officials. They all went
to Israel for a little guided tour.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah, I mean, Benjamin Yahoo is again this is one
of those weird things where all the facts should be
on Benjamin Ninyaho side. Seventeen hundred of his citizens slaughtered
in a day by a group who proclaimed it, danced
about it, hamas the babies, the women they raped, they
(16:02):
did all that, filmed it, put it up on the internet,
and then bragged about it, then took a bunch of
his citizens and others hostage. Those people two years later
still being held hostage, although though sometimes they'll play a
little game with you and they'll tell you that we're
going to release one of the dead hostages, and then
you find out that they didn't put a dead hostage
(16:22):
in there, they put somebody else in there. So I mean,
this is the fun of Hamas. So you would think
that the entire.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
World fun in Hamas. This is haha.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, they're putting the haha in Hamas. Lord, we're gonna,
you know, the family can gather for the funeral finally,
and instead when you open it up, there's a Hey,
it's not my mom, it's a it's a guy. It's
a terrorist who you killed over here and.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Correct me if we're wrong. But they claim they have
like forty three hostages, but only twenty of twenty some
they believe to be alive.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
You know, I haven't checked.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
That was the report I heard on th deal Friday, and.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That sounds I guess that would be about right. But
they are not releasing the hostages. And some are saying
that Benjamin Etna, who doesn't want them to release the
hostages so that he has an excuse to continue this
onslaught into ENID. It's a genocide, is what they continue
(17:21):
to say. And one of those people who agree with
that assessment apparently is Republican from South Carolina, Michael Caskey.
Micah went on the tour that was provided by the
Israeli Defense Forces. They marched him around and showed him
everything that they're saying. Now, we have several other comments
(17:42):
from other legislators who came down on the side of
Israel after seeing it. They can't believe how close it is.
They can't believe the horrific acts of Hamas, and they
can't believe that they have not released the hostages to
try to end this thing. And they also recognize that
the AID, not only the food aid, but more importantly
the medicine aid, is being stolen by Hamas and then
(18:06):
sold to the Palestinians and at exorbitant prices in order
to fund their war against Israel. That's I think everybody
agrees with that. Even MIKEA. Casky agrees with that. I believe,
so everybody's in agreement that Hamas is doing this to
the Palestinians, and that they're hiding in the you know,
they're hiding in the hospitals, they're building their death tunnels
(18:26):
through all of these schools and whatnot. So if you're
going to fight Hamas, they're going to be wrapped in
a cloak of children. You're going to have to kill
the children to get to them. That's understandable. Now there's
sixty six thousand dead Palestinians today. Micah's point was, seventeen
hundred dead Israelis cannot justify sixty six thousand dead Palestinians.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You have to end this. You know, when you realize
that your only bargaining ship are the hostages, there's no
reason to believe you're ever going to release them, because
the one thing you can't lose is one of your
main influx of income, which is a grocery store selling
(19:13):
food provided by the UN, primarily by the US, I'm sure,
so that they can continue to fight this battle. Otherwise
they're going to end up literally with nothing but sticks
and stones, and at that point Israel is going to
kick their rear end. So if you if that's your
only play, because there is nothing unless the unless the
(19:37):
UN steps in and determines it will be a two
state solution, it sends in the Blue Helmets to actually
enforce that, then this is going to continue and Hamas
is going to get wiped off the face of the
earth net. And Yahoo knows that that's his that as
plainly said, that's his goal. So I get it, but
(19:58):
I don't know how in the world you can come
away from that saying that sixty six hundred persons who
insisted on continuing to attack Israel Is somehow an overreach
or a non proportional retaliation when there were only seventeen
hundred peacefully living in a lot of them at a
concert for God's sake at the time, Persons who paid
(20:21):
the ultimate penalty for what has been a war torn
district since since Jesus walked through that area.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Well, and you said sixty six hundred, I think you
meant to say sixty six thousand. I'm sorry, But I
also I do the characterization that they that those are
all even pro Hamas. I'll go ahead and I'll take
the neutral side on that, and I'll say many of
them were not pro Hamas, that many of them are
actual victims of Hamas, that many of them don't want
(20:53):
Hamas as their leaders. I'll go ahead and argue that
side as well. But I will say that Hamas is
the one who got these people killed, that Hamas is
the one using them as shields. If somebody grabs a
hostage at a bank robbery and walks out holding a
gun to their head, and through whatever force the police
(21:15):
are doing to try to neutralize that person, the innocent
ends up dying. That is not the fault of the police.
That is the fault of the person who took them hostage.
All Palestinians are hostage right now under Hamas. Now some
of them are willing hostages and some of them are not.
(21:35):
But this is not the problem. This is not something
that Israel is doing. More likely, I think it would
be a safe for bet to say this is something
that the United Arab Emirates, and that Egypt, and that
all of the Turkey. You can go through all the
laundry lists, Jordan, Qatar, all of those people, all those countries.
(21:56):
This is something that they're not doing. They're not helping,
they're not getting involved and going in and telling Hamas
enough's enough, you're done. You're all done here, there's no
because we can't negotiate with you. You're insane and you're
making this a really bad situation. And just finally, I'll
also point out, when you talk about genocide, the Palestinians
(22:21):
ironically are one of the top ten fastest growing populations
on Earth according to the data between twenty twenty and
twenty twenty five, which makes it a very hard argument
that they've been suffering under a genocide for a decade.
They're outpacing the United States, They're outpacing Canada, they're outpacing Mexico.
(22:41):
As a matter of fact, there's nobody in our hemisphere
growing as fast as the Palestinians are.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And what's been said since I guess not day one,
but let's say a month into it, maybe not now?
Who's been saying this can end today? But Hamas will
have to end it.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Absolutely that, I mean, how else could it end Hamas?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Otherwise it will not end. It will only be a
reoccurrence of what they've been going through again since Jesus, Well,
not all the way back whenever Hamas was first created
under the as as the supposed non military force of
the Palestinians.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, that would have been early two thousand, right, And
so you can go back to the nineties though, and
Bill Clinton was the president. Hillary famously told the story
of Bill Clinton offering a two state solution. They didn't
want it, the Palestinians. See, this is the way you
can test the theory. If Israel, what does what is
(23:42):
Hamas's demands for the ending of this war? That is
not peace, That is not what they're asking for. That
is not what they want, They want Israel to no
longer exist as a state. So we're I guess we're
both in the same position. The Israelis are saying that
they're willing to accept a Palestinian state, but it must
(24:04):
come with certain restrictions, and the Hamas is saying there
can be no Israeli state. So they both really don't
want the other one to survive, although Israel is the
only one that is saying that they're willing to allow
it to survive if there's certain restrictions put upon it.
Ask that of the Hamas leaders, what if we said
right now that there's going to be Israel, and you
(24:26):
and the UN will make sure that neither one of
you attack either each you know, anybody, there'll be no
more death. That is not an acceptable offer. They will
not take.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
That Israel has to be wiped off the face of
the earth. Yes now. And because the UN is firmly, firmly,
not firmly behind the Hamas, but certainly is in a
lot of countries. Here is kelly point of that just
several of the laundry list supporting Hamas in their efforts,
even though they're trying to get them at least bridled.
The next demand is is that the US be wiped
(24:56):
off the.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Face of the earth, which seems fair.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, we're all dying under Obamacare anyway, you might as
well give them the land.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I mean, didn't we colonize everybody? It's our fault any
of this happened. There was no war till the white
man got to America.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Realist bastards h
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