09 30 25 We talk with US Congressman and candidate for SC Governor Ralph Norman

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, the original thing they did with this negotiation
was a one point five trillion dollar spending package, hundreds
of billions of dollars to illegal aliens for their healthcare
while Americans are struggling to pay their healthcare bills, Kelly Nash.
And now they come in here as saying that if
you don't give us everything that we want, we're going
to shut down the government.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Jonathan and Kelly Show. All right, well, now I'm watching
as we record this at ten twelve on the thirtieth day,
that will live an infamy. Apparently this is the countdown clock.
We have thirteen hours, just under fifty minutes to see
this deal come together to avoid the shutdowns.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
You know, Donald Trump is not messing around. We've seen
lots of government shutdowns. I mean, I think like twenty
so far in my lifetime, but we've never seen the
president respond the way this president is, which is a
guarantee of not not just layoff, he will fire large

(01:01):
swaths of the private sector. That memo went out five
days ago. And so when you see Chuck Schumer and
Hakeem Jeffries talking tough that we got to help the
illegals with their healthcare. Recognize that your buddies who work
in the in the public sector. Donald Trump's already given
the three criterias for each division. If somebody falls in

(01:22):
these three criterias, I do not want them back. I'd
like to keep them right now. But if the Democrats
vote to close the government, then that will be the
price that they're paying. We're going to fire tens of
thousands of government employees and we're not hiring them back
because we're going to doze them. Basically, if we find
that we can run the government without having them, this

(01:43):
gives us an opportunity to fire them.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
And to be absolutely clear, because you said public and
initially you said private, it's a public sector. It's government employees,
all right, So now as we oh, look, we're going
to talk more about that right now, and the tells fuck,
I'm on the phone US Congress and Ralph Norman Good.
It is the thirtieth of September at seven. I think

(02:09):
obviously today is a big day of the showdown, the
possible shutdown. How do you see this playing out now
that the House has done this job, but the Senate's
hanging in the balance.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, I think it'll it'll end up as supposed to be.
I don't think the Democrats realize who they're dealing with
with Donald Trump. I was very happy counsel of the
first meeting. Here's what your listeners need to know. They're
asking for a tree and and a half new spending
uh in basically forty three days between here between now

(02:41):
September thirtieth and November twenty first, a tree and a
half in new spending for illegals to get paychecks, to
get for those who get transgender surgeries. It is completely
ludicrous of what they're asking, but it's typical of the
Democrat Party today, which has lost this way and as
last seventy to seventy million people rejected them, and they're

(03:03):
going to reject them again because of this insanity. It's
what they're doing is trying to put the blame on
the Republicans for shutting the government down, and it's just
not true. It'll be the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, it's ironic that every single Republican has voted to
keep the government open, and yet it's going to be
the position of the Democrats that it's the Republican's fault
that the government shuts down again. Every one of you
voted to keep it open, but it's your fault that
it's closing. That's very ironic. You had a big press
conference this week here basically addressing the violence in Charlotte. Now,

(03:38):
you don't represent Charlotte, but you do have a lot
of constituents from your district that commute into Charlotte. What
would you like to see changed in Charlotte and or
North Carolina policies?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Well, what we had was heart wrenching to a testimony
from a father who'd lost a daughter who was killed
in Columbia, South Carolina, and you had a grandmother who
had a disabled daughter who was dismembered four years ago
and with the killers still free. Now, we got to
change the way we elect judges in South Carolina. They're

(04:11):
only two states that allow politicians, many of which are
trial lawyers, to elect the very judges that they appeared before.
How is that not a conflict of interest. We've got
to change that, and we've got to that meaningful that
will start us on the path of I think helding
judges accountable. There ought to be a recision where you

(04:31):
can vote them out of office if they make decisions
like we saw in Charlotte, North Carolina, where criminals one
had thirty nine prior arrests, prior convictions, and then one
had a little Ukrainian girl they had fourteen. I think
of the killer, his convictions and he was cut loose

(04:53):
by Roague judges. That I'm going to put on my
website the names of the judges and why they cut
them loose. We've got a lot of work to do
in South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, on the aftermath of the tragedy of the death
of Logan Federico and her dad is on a tirade,
and I believe that he will, in fact, as he says,
be their worst nightmare. He's going to be in their
face constantly. And we have talked with Sheriff Leon Lott
here in Richland County and he said, and some other
reports are showing the same thing nationwide, if he could

(05:25):
only lock up ten percent of the criminals that continue
to commit these crimes in our community, he says crime
would go down by seventy five percent.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I get this. When I came to the courthouse in
Charlotte yesterday, there were some protesters outside who had signs
up help for the mentally ill and in different signs
to that effect. Where was the help for the victims,
the little girl who died, you know, begging for our
lives in Columbia, South Carolina, or the Ukrainian girl whose

(05:58):
only mistake was to board a train and sit in
front of a madman who had been cut loose fourteen
prior times. We've got to bring attention to it. And
as sad as it was here in the testimony of
both both one grandmother and one parent that Steve was

(06:19):
very emotional and he should have been. It was his daughter.
And to hear the Democrats on the panel and I
raised this issue, they started fighting statistics on the reduction
in crime in Mecklenburg County. Where was their voice to
call out for mayor who waited two weeks or til
because she had an election to where she was on

(06:43):
the candidate for mayor she withheld evidence. Where was their
voice to call her out? As well as the judges
who turned these maniacs letus it's got a change. We
got to bring light to it and bring the public
awareness to him.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
We're talking with Congressman Ralph Norman and you you're going
to have to defend yourself again, Congressman, Apparently you are
a white supremacist. You hate black people because you have
a plan, a desire to redraw the congressional districts. As
the headline and the posting courier said, Congressman Norman wants
to eliminate South Carolina is only Democrat district, eliminating our

(07:21):
only black Congressman, why are you targeting James Clyburn so aggressively?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Not targeting James, that's my that's the myth. Ye those
on the other side. This didn't have black a white issue.
The District six has been represented by Jim Cribons for
thirty one years. I like Jim, I'm a friend of his,
of Jim, but the district you've got when you look

(07:47):
at the boundary lines of District six, you've either got
to be a land surveyor to figure out where do
you go to vote, or a mystic in a psychic
to follow the lines. It's fourteen counties, of which they
represent the entire counties. But get this, eight they divide
the counties, Charleston being one of them. And if you

(08:08):
want to do the right thing, and again, this isn't
black or white, Jim Clyburton may be able to win
it regardless of howise drawn. But there's no rhymeries for
waiting ten years before we right or wrong and let
the people, let the people vote on who they want
in office. And you know that's We've got a super

(08:32):
majority of so called Republicans in the state House. So
let's do what Texas is done, is doing has done.
Let's do what California is trying to do. But bottom line,
South Carolina is a conservative state made of conservative people.
Of the Southern congressman, there's only one who is basically

(08:54):
would not vote for Donald Trump if he cured Alzheimer's
and cancer at the same time, that's wrong.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
You travel our state, All of us travel under overpasses
at like sixty five miles an hour. But if we
did what you did, and I saw a photo of
you doing it, actually stopping and looking underneath those bridges.
We have so many bridges in this state that by
our own South Carolina Department of Transportation have rated deficient
or worse. As a governor, you're claiming that we're going

(09:20):
to be able to finally get this handle before we
see people being killed as bridges collapse.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Absolutely you know, the core functions of government bore down
to three things. Infrastructure, education, and safety. That's it. That's
the part is and the politicians have neglected a something
that we all have in common. There are only two
things all of us have in common. We breed the
same air, and we travel the same roads in many cases.

(09:47):
And to let the roads go for you know, thirty
forty fifty years, you've got over a thousand bridges that
are deficient. You've got citations being issued for truck that
the bridges will no longer carry the weight. That's what
our school buses travel every day. What about the children

(10:09):
that cross, you know, across these bridges. I'm holding another
press conference in about a week that's gonna highlight the
citations are unwanted and let these bridges go. The way
they have for the length of time that they have
is unacceptable in the politicians of the blame. We're going
to change that. When I'm governor of South Carolina.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
We're talking with the current congressman from our great state
of South Carolina. But perhaps you can comment on politicians
in other states, like the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson,
or the Maryland governor Wes Moore, or the California Governor
Gavin Newsom, or the governor of Oregon or JB. Pritzker,

(10:51):
and the list goes on and on about Democrats who
continue to make their argument that ICE just the mere
presence of ICE and or federal troops coming in to
protect ICE facilities, that is the problem. It is not
the people throwing the bricks in the Molotov cocktails. That
when Donald Trump insists on defending these facilities, that that

(11:14):
is inflaming the situation. I know you wrote recently, wrote
an op ed piece regarding this.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
God did because you know these these and I think
it is a small minority of people who are protesting
our National Guard who are putting their lives on the line,
O ICE agents, who are putting their lives on the
line to go in and take out criminals. They just
haven't seen or heard Tom Homan as he tears up

(11:40):
talking about the deaths of children or the rapes of
children that were allowed to cur with this mass of immigration.
Let them keep screaming about house not fair, it's it's
it's it's unpatriotic to take out criminals in this in
this country. Uh, you know, I don't have to look
too far and washing in DC Mayor Bowser, she is

(12:03):
awful when it comes to wanting to protect the citizens.
And again, it's a core function of government. And I
thank god Donald Trumps is ignoring him and he's moving forward.
And I saw an interview with some businesses who said
they're so fortunate to have a president like Trump who
is doing the right thing and protecting them when their

(12:25):
own state, when their own governors who were not protected.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I know that you've probably had a lot of conversations
from constituents who are probably echoing the same thing I'm
about to ask you now, but what are we going
to do to make sure that we have the energy
that we need in South Carolina? When I say energy,
we know we can produce energy, but how are we
going to distribute that energy? Our infrastructure for our electrical
system is wofully short, you know.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Before we have all this massive AI companies which use
a tremendous amount of electricity. We've got to be way
to find out one how do we provide it? Because
you know the man office true, we just can't build
a nuclear reactor. The other thing that's a little long secret.
We're nine billion with a b in debt because of

(13:10):
the failed VC Summer nine billion, and I'm sorry the
ratepayers should not have to pay that. We need to
come up with some solution too, And I've got an
expert coming down that I'll be on site to see
how we can come up with a solution that benefits
the people South Carolina. I mean, it's a basic you've
got to have power. You don't operate in the dark.

(13:34):
And you know, sometimes I wonder common sense? Is it
so common when you look at the thing the challenges
facing South Carolina. But I will say this on the
good side, South Carolina people are wanting to come here.
They're fleeing the New York's with the socialist Mondamis, They're fluent,
they're fleeing California, Oregon in other states. But we've got

(13:55):
to be ready for it, and we've got to be
ready to combat if they bring the politics with them.
We don't need them here in South Carolina.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
It seems as if Henry McMaster believes that we do
have an opportunity to have the VC Summer project saved
and paid for by outside sources. Is that not your understanding.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
You're going to have to have a whoever takes on
VC summer. You've got to have a company with it's
got the capital and it's got the wherewithal to somehow
deal with the nine billion in debt, and Exterra put
up a price which I think was rejected at one time.
We got to visit everything on the table. But I'll

(14:39):
tell you this, to put the rate payers at risk
by having to pay for a blunder of politicians, no,
we don't do that. We can't do it, and there
is a solution, and we just got to find the
right one. I've got We've got some people who are
going to take a look at it objectively, with no
end goal in mind other than making sure South Carolin

(15:00):
is on the forefront of producing power to the great
industries that want to come here.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Congressman, we appreciate your time. We know you're very busy today,
in particular, well every day in DC is busy, so
we appreciate you taking time to talk with us and
get us up to speed on what's happening today. Obviously
we'll find out what happens by tonight, and then as
you travel the state. We appreciate your insight and what
you see as the priorities as you continue to run
for governor. Thank you again, my pleasures.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
All right, So we're going to see how this shakes
out as the countdown clock continues. And thanks again to
Congressman Ralph Norman for calling in. Now you're telling me
that Charlie Kirk wrote a letter in support of After
all we've heard on the internet about bbing Net and
Yahoo taking him out. You mean that wasn't a pistol

(15:52):
lapel pin on Charlie shirt's T shirt that killed him.
We all see the videos.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, I mean what you the lapel thing? I don't
think a lot of people have heard that theory. That's
a deep, deep, dark web type of thing that people
put out there that Charlie Kirk was murdered by Benjamin Netanyaho,
by some lapel microphone that also doubled as a pistol
that somehow shot him in a throat. And yet you know,

(16:21):
nobody else knew it, that the FBI. Nobody or maybe
the FBI was in on it.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Okay, Well, that is a deep, deep video that is
starting to pop up, or was until today, I guess
it was popping up all over social media. So if
you've seen the video, but there are other conversations prior
to that video coming out where it wasn't just Charlie Kirk,
but BB Netan Yaho in fact, had the Trump administration
on its knees because BB Netanyahu and Israel were ruling

(16:48):
the world.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I mean, I understand there's a lot of people who
feel that way that the Jews run the world. And
you know that has been a common complaint about the
Jewish race for one hundred years. Yeah, just what I'm
saying about one hundred years or so, they've been complaining,
people have complained about it. What the Jewish people have
done is rather amazing in the sense that they are

(17:16):
so successful. Some would credit that to the ancient blessing
of God saying these are my people, and they will
be blessed, and those who bless my people will be blessed,
which is kind of what a lot of Americans base
their favoritism over on the Jewish race over. But also
you just have to look at the fact that they

(17:36):
ought that as a people group, their IQ scores are
higher than most other peoples. They also have an incredibly
hard work ethic. They value success more than others. You
can look at Asians, and they're similar in that instance.
Asians are in most of the industries that they that

(17:58):
they get involved in, Asians rise to the top. So
that's not God's blessing as you would think with the Jews.
The only difference is that the Jews are such a
small people group. I mean, as you're talking to how
many Jews are there on the earth, I mean it's
like fifteen million, twenty million. You know. With the Asians,
you're talking about billions and billions, and so the fact
that you have fifty million of them doing well not

(18:19):
a surprise. But anyway, that being said, the rumor had
been started by a guest, Candice Owens, who's kind of
exposed herself to be a lunatic, and others on the
right that Charlie Kirk had flipped and that he was
anti Israel in his final days, although he had never
made any public statements saying that she divulged that she

(18:44):
had had private conversations with Charlie Kirk in which he
said he was done with Israel now that is couldn't
be any further from the truth. Those The New York
Post reveals yesterday a seven page letter that was written
to Benjamin Nett and Yahoo, and I'm not going to
read the hire seven pages to you, but it's a
very thoughtful letter and very encouraging letter, but also at

(19:06):
the same time somewhat chastising the Prime Minister in the
sense that people who are trying to be pro Israel
are left to defend themselves without having Israel provide source
information for them when these cries of genocide or whatever
are being made, you, as the Israelis, are not doing

(19:28):
a very good job of countering that. And he's talking
about how you see now amongst polls, even in people
who consider themselves MAGA, especially in the younger generation, as
high as forty three percent of college aged MAGA identifying
Republicans are anti Israel right now. And never mind on

(19:51):
the left, where it's one hundred percent anti Israel.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, saw that openly displayed, and he was right. And
he's pointing out the fact that we need a better
do a better job Israel. He's got to do a
better job of getting its information out there in such
a way that it can't be misconstrued easily by the left.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Well, not even misconstrued. You're not even putting anything out
except for you have this old man, as he described it,
it looks like you have a Walter Cronkite news desk
and this seventy year old man talking in a darkly
lit studio. It's not compelling, not in an era of
TikTok and Instagram and all that. And it's not as
if Israel doesn't have the resources. Sure, get a team together, Yeah,

(20:32):
get a team together. He's like, look at what the
Trump administration did with their first response team. They went
out and they hired twenty people. Part of it was
you can't be over the age of twenty five. If
you want to be on the first Response team. You
got to live, eat, and breathe Republican trump Ism. You've
got to be on the internet all the time. All
you do is drink red bull and tweet. That's what
you do. And whenever there's a threat against MAGA, you

(20:57):
get on it. You respond to it, not just with
your thoughts and your feelings. You give Donald Trump quotes
that prove that is not his position.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
So no, that was not a lapel pistol on his
T shirt.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Now, he ends the letter by saying, the Holy Land
is so important in my life, and it pains me
to see the support for Israel slipping away. Please feel
free to contact me on my private phone number below
if you'd like to discuss this further. I love Israel Now.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Something that popped up that as we wrap this up
because we're running out of time on this podcast, but
I want to put it up as a separate just
a separate audio track on this podcast thread. I don't
know if you had an opportunity to hear the entire
testimony of His name is Steve feder Rica. His daughter
was Logan feder Rica. She was killed here in Columbia,

(21:51):
South Carolina. And this came up as part of a
North Carolina congressional hearing or a North Carolina house hearing
for the state, not a US house, but it came
up in conversation because in the aftermath of the young
lady who was killed on the light rail system in Charlotte.
But embarrassingly enough, the house member misidentified with a photo

(22:16):
on the screen the young lady from Ukraine with this
young lady Logan Federico, whose dad was there because his
daughter Logan was killed. And he also now wants to
be a part of a conversation and he's taken over
the conversation, and he is the person who I was
waiting to see. This guy is going to make it,
as he will explain in his audio himself, and I'll

(22:37):
put it up separately. This guy is going to make
it his life mission now to do nothing but embarrassed
people who facilitate the continued wrote revolving door in our
criminal justice system that allows these people to continue to
walk the streets and wreak havoc on citizens.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, I thought that Ralph Norman did a great job
kind of outlining some of that testimony yesterday that he
was a part of it as well. And you know,
this guy's cries were all over the news last night
talking about not one politician has been able to explain
to me how that man was allowed out what was
it fourteen times? Had over one hundred and forty arrests

(23:16):
in his life? Why is he on the streets? Can
anybody explain it? Nobody can explain it.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
And we referenced leon lot of statistics he shared on
this podcast many times before in that conversation that we
have with the congressman. But so after we post this
one up, I'll just well, prior to that posting this
one up. I'll put the audio of just his testimony
to that subcommittee coming up here. It's so frustrating, but

(23:43):
I'm glad to see that now we have someone who,
because we keep hearing, they're going to make effect change.
This guy is not going to sleep until change is affected.