091325 The Jonathon and Kelly Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, all right, it's great to be here at
the University of South Carolina. Everybody, Kelly Nash, it's a
predominantly conservative audience. If someone from the left comes up
to the michae let's treat them with respect. Let's not
interrupt their scoul or boo them. Show the left the
respect that we don't get on these college campuses.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
With that, let's get started the Just and Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
That's exactly the kind that Charlie Kirk hate speech that
Matthew Dowd was preaching about the other day on MSNBC.
Do you hear all that hate in his introduction there?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I know he hated that he got fired for saying it.
The Matthew Dowd character, Charlie Kirk may have been killed
by one of his own supporters celebrating his Second Amendment
rights and just inadvertently hit him from five hundred feet
in the neck, just pure accident.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Or if it were in fact someone who just disagreed,
it's because Charlie Kirk, basically he said deserved it.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Oh, AOC said the same thing. AOC said, anybody who
spends their entire life. I was fighting for a gun,
you know, fighting against her gun reform legislation. If you
spent your career doing that, then you deserve what you get.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
She seemingly took it personal. Hey, this is Jonathan Rusher's
Kelly Nanno morning. Will we be talking more about that
as the program progresses. Remember this is recorded on Friday
for broadcast on Saturday. This is after the press conference
from the governor.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
Not over yet.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
That guy won't stop talking.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
The governor of the state of Utah is squeezing all
of the national attention before the cameras pack up from
a Utah and head back to their home headquarters. So
he squeezed in that promotional juice. I'm just tired of
hearing this guy talking now.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Well, like I joked earlier, because Trump went for like
forty five minutes straight on Fox.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
He's like this guy, Sure.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Man, this guy really can talk.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
He talks a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
He's hoping to get a phone call from the RNC
saying what a great job you did. We're going to
put you on the shortlist for candidates for twenty twenty eight.
All right, we're assuming that he will be finished speaking
by the time. This broadcast airs on Saturday at eleven,
but I wouldn't bet on it. We did have an
opportunity to spend some really incredible moments with a former
senator from the state of South Carolina. He's not a

(02:08):
stranger to this audience. His name is Jim Demi.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Good morning, Thanks for having me. It's always good to
be speaking to people in South Carolina.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, I know we said good morning. It is September
the eleventh, and we all remember twenty four years ago,
not only the crisis, but the response from a lot
of people and for a lot of people that was
dropped to a knee. We've also, on September the tenth,
one of the happiest of our happy Christian warriors unfortunately
fell victim to the evil of this world. It seems
that there is a lot of evil on display, and

(02:38):
it's certainly being shared on social media. And I'm glad
to know that you have, as always a good Christian message,
but this time you put it in particular in a book.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yes I have. The book is called What the Bible
Really Says about Creation In times politics and you most
people don't like to see you mixing up politics and religion.
But there are two of the most important subjects in
our lives, and I'm afraid we've just lost perspective as
we see this evil in our country. It's really hard

(03:08):
to imagine. But the main point of the book is
that evil Israel and Christians and Conservatives are in the
fight of their lives for their families, communities, for their country.
And if we have to put on the full armor
of God, and that's the Bible. And the Bible has
been discredited. One of the political parties has made it
their goal for one hundred years to push whether it's

(03:30):
the creation theory, all of the sexual and immorality trands
stuff that they push. They are pushing biblical truth out
of the public square. Even yesterday when a Republican asked
for a real prayer on the floor for Charlie Kirk's
family and our country, there were objections from the Democrats.
Of course, they're happy with a moment of silence. But

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the point of the book is we have allowed the
Bible to be discredited, and a lot of that comes
from misinterpretations of creation and salvation, of why God created
the world. And I get into all of this in
the book, and I have to admit it's probably too
much in the weeds for a lot of people, because
you really have to kind of dig and think about things.

(04:14):
But I think if we're going to save our country
and all of Western civilization, we have to realize it
was all founded on Biblical Judaeo Christian principles, and if
we allow the Bible to be discredited and pushed out
of public life, then we're going to lose everything that
we value.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Talking with Senator Jim Dement, you know you've served as
a Senator, you've served as the president of the Heritage Foundation,
You've been involved in this for many, many years.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Now.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
It seems as if in my lifetime America has changed
tremendously from its belief in the Bible. The understanding that
even if you were, you know, a religion, you didn't
have a religion or whatever, you didn't care about religion.
That was But in nineteen seventy six we launched a

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group in America called the Freedom from Religion and they
have been very actively promoting the idea that there is
no place in American politics for religion. And it feels
like since that movement began in the seventies, we've seen
a decline in biblical truth being spread, and we've also

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seen a decline just in the political discourse. I saw
Tim Kaine the other day, the senator from Virginia, talking
about he was disturbed that certain people would believe that
their freedoms were given to them by God. That's what
they believe in.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
What did he say?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
In Iran? In America, we don't believe that freedoms were
given to us by God. I was like, how is
this guy a senator?

Speaker 6 (05:48):
Well, it sounds partisan, and a lot of us have
tried to avoid it. But Tim Caine, senator, who was
a candidate for vice president with Hillary Clinton, he's of
the part that has been pushing all of these antibiblical ideas,
and now he can't even fathom the idea of that

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our rights were given to us by God and that
government was established to protect those rights. It's completely opposite.
And one of the things I get at in the
book is how pastors have failed to tell people the truth.
But as bad as Republicans are, and I've criticized them
for years, the platform Republicans are built on Judeo Christian principles,

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things that we take for granted, marriage, family, our whole
economic system, compassion and charity, all of these things come
from Biblical values. If we give that up and agree,
maybe we just subtly agree that science has discredited the Bible.
I think we've come to accept that as a country,
that the creation story in the Bible is not true,

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and Bible is not the Word of God, and we
can't rely on it for our moral standards or for
how we are saved for all of that goes out
the window if the Bible is not true. So that's
what this book, what the Bible really says, gets into
is how can we look at the Bible in an

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honest way, a literal way, to see how science in
the Bible can be aligned rationally, and how can we
look at things, whether it's the flood, or even look
at why God created this whole world in the first place,
which doesn't make much sense on its face, since why
would God create a world so full of evil and

(07:32):
suffering and death. But there's some good reasons for that,
and I get into it, and I think it'll make
a lot of people mad. But I challenge pastors of
this country, particularly to start telling Americans the truth because
the anti Biblical push is coming from one political party
and has for years, and there's no moral equivalent between

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the parties. Despite the fact that all the Republicans and
Democrats are senators, the platform for the Democrat Party is
opposed to Biblical values.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Well, I know that the Bible itself.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
As you are minishing some of the pastors or preachers
that they want to tickle people's ears. And although we've
also been mineshed, what happens if you are luke warm?

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah, as we go forward.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I heard an interesting perspective last night. Someone described Charlie
Kirk as being a unique combination of Billy Graham and
Rush Limbaugh.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Well as perfect. It is perfect, and I think that's
the reason that he was taken out. He's not only
one of the most powerful conservative politically, but he has
become one of the most effective evangelists for Christ, particularly
with young people, and he spoke out boldly his politics
and religion were seamless. It's not like their two compartments.

(08:49):
He showed the relationship between the two, that what you believe,
what your faith is, how that affects how you vote
if you really know what's going on. And that's kind
of my now, I know that seventy eighty percent of
Americans generally agree with conservative thoughts. Eighty percent want voter
id about eighty percent don't want illegals voting, but they

(09:12):
still vote for a party that supports those things because
I don't think they know. I just think it's time
that we all get out and tell the truth. I mean,
a lot of us, you know, like to talk about
the left. Every time I hear the left, I just
want to pull my hair out, because there's no such
thing as the left. It's left is not on the ballot.
There's no building with the left on it. Every time

(09:32):
we say the left, we're just obscuring what we mean,
which is we're talking about democrats. I know that sounds partisan,
and I wouldn't have talked that way twenty years ago,
but it's so frustrating to talk to people who believe
one way and vote another because they just don't know
the truth. And so the truth gets back again to
the Bible. That's my burden with this book is to

(09:53):
challenge people to reposition the Bible as a center of
a Western civilization and to make the case that it
is true not only about creation, but what's going to
happen from here to the end. I think we can
see that if we look at the Bible a little
more clearly.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
The book is What the Bible Really Says by Jim Dementt,
and in it you talk a little bit about some
of the lies that particularly the Democrats have been spreading,
big picture issues like climate change, immediate emergencies like COVID
nineteen was so, how does understanding of scripture influence how
you approach and interpret issues like that?

Speaker 6 (10:32):
Well, first it gets back to the goal of seeking
the truths. I mean, you can look at things like COVID.
It was clear from the beginning it was not a
threat to children or healthy adult. Older people were certainly
at risk. But to close down the whole world made
no sense. And then they told us all things about
the vaccine, that it would keep you from getting it.
Then we found out that wasn't true. It keep you

(10:54):
from spreading it. After a while you wonder what the
heck does it do? But it was used for political
power in a way we hadn't seen in a long time.
And climate change is the same way. I mean, climate's
always changing, it always has carbon dioxide. I mean, then
made carbon dioxide is one five thousands of the atmosphere.
There is no scientific or statistical way that it could

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be causing climate change. That's the argument, not that climate's
not changing, but they're using that to control economic systems
around the world. The other big lie in deception, and
the Democrats have been using it for years because it's
their power base, is that America's racist. They have stirred
up hate and racial divisions for generations, and we see

(11:39):
that coming to light today that the hate they accuse
of our side of hate, but I don't see that.
I see it coming from their side. Another deception and
that I fit into this, is that Christians shouldn't be
involved in politics, and a lot of people have bought that.
That has really hurt us. Now I can tell you
after twenty five years of service and House and the Senate,

(12:00):
working with conservative groups in Washington, the church is largely
irrelevant to what we're doing to govern our country. And
that's a very sad statement because the church should be
the primary pusher of moral standards, of biblical values, and
they're just not there. If pastors come to Washington, they
would pray with me and then go down the hall

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and pray with the Democrats. They considered us the same.
In effect, it's fine to love everybody, but at some
point you have to recognize what force is pushing against
the Kingdom of God in this country, and that political
force has been coming from the Democrat Party.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Now that interview was edited, it's an incredible interview. It's
like twenty twenty five minutes long. You can hear the
entire interview as always, who post those up on our podcast.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
You can find the Rash Thought podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
We also had another opportunity to speak with as last week.
At this time, we were talking about the new jobs
numbers and we get the national news representation on that.
But what happens or what does it mean to the
state of South Carolina To hear that breakdown coming up
in just a few minutes from doctor Joey von Nesson,
University of South Carolina, Darla Moore School of Business, and

(13:10):
we're going to travel back down to Jasper. I need
to travel to Jasper. There's a lot of money floating
around down there. I will stop and pick up a penny.
I think in Jasper I can pick up a couple
of thousand dollars in the streets apparently, or a million
or a million Well, explain that coming up in segment
four The Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Jonathan Rush, I.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Just give my love and hope to the family of
the young woman who was stabbed in Charlotte by a.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Madman, a lunatic Kelly Nash.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
So they are evil people.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
We have to be able to handle that.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
If we don't handle that, we don't have a country.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
It has been a horrific week for video watching on
social media.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'm going to have to decompress this weekend. It'll be
all college football for me.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
That's a great escape. Now last week at this time,
Remember we record this on Fridays for Saturdays broadcast. Just
seen the new jobs numbers come out. A lot of
talk about it though all of the national news channels.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
But Kelly's got.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
The hotline number for the desk at the Darla Moore
School of Business.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Doctor Joey von Nesson. Nobody's going to crunch numbers better
than him.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Kelly Nash, walk come on the phone.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
The man we go to for the numbers about South
Carolina always, Doctor Joey von Nesson, researching the Economist University
of South Carolina, Darlamore School of Business.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Good morning, Good morning, guys man, I'm surprised you can
fit all that on a business card. That's a big title.
Now it's hard.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's hard here at South Carolina. We always turned to you.
What did you see a report for the state of
South Carolina.

Speaker 7 (14:36):
Well, overall, the labor market trends in South Carolina are
similar to what we're seeing at the national level, and
that we're seeing a slow down in the jobs market overall.
In other words, we're not creating as many jobs as
we had been earlier this year and in twenty twenty four.
So it does point to a broader slow down in
the market. But having said that, South Carolina actually stands out.

(14:58):
We've been ranked number one this year, including this most
recent month in terms of job growth compared to all
other states.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
And so that's very strong for us, and it puts
us in a fairly unique position. And the main reason
for the difference is the construction sector. That's not the
only reason, but it's the primary factor. Because we have
significant population growth in South Carolina, and of course more
heads means more beds are necessary. So as we see
more people moving in that supports a strong and thriving

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housing and real estate sector, and that's really the big
difference where we're seeing growth that's far more pronounced than
the nation is as a whole.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
I'm not sure what to make of the job's reports
because I think we've all been a little bit rattled
the last couple of years seeing the revisions. And I
was listening to Kevin Hassett yesterday, and he's one of
Trump's top economic advisors, and he was saying that there's
basically two methods that we have used traditionally to get

(15:57):
these jobs reports, and one is where you kind of
take a survey of the jobs and say, hey, how
many people are you employing, and that's where we got
the twenty two thousand from this time. But then there's
another one where they do a survey of people at home,
basically saying are you working? And he says that when

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you look at these massive revisions that we had, which
was I think over two million lost in the Biden administration,
they went from four million down to two million, or
four point five down to two point five. He said
that if you look at it this way right now,
you got the twenty two thousand, but if you did
the other survey, we added two hundred and eighty thousand

(16:38):
last month, and so there could be a massive difference
in what we're going to see in the revision.

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Yes, that's exactly right. There are those two sources, the
employer survey and the household survey. Generally we look at
the employer survey as the most accurate number because when
you're talking to employers, you're actually getting information on the
jobs that are being created. They're the ones that are
actually creating these positions, Whereas when you talk to households,

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you're asking them a question, are you working or have
you looked for work in the last six weeks, And
so that doesn't give you a sense of the number
of jobs. That more gives you a sense of whether
people are working, because if I call you and ask
you if you were working and you say yes, that
doesn't tell me if you have one job, or if
you have two jobs, or if you have two part

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time jobs. So it doesn't give you that detail that
the employer survey provides. So that's where that twenty two
thousand number comes from that we hear about, and the
headline number that comes from the Employer Survey. It still
is revised because we get more data coming in later,
so it gets more broad. But that's really the best
number to use because you're asking the employers and they're

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telling you about actual jobs that are being created on
a regular basis.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Beck Scott Besson over the weekend spoke specifically to some
of the things that Kelly mentioned. The hazard talked about
having to do with reports issues in the fact and
maybe the FEDS slowing instead of Trump actually reiterated that
over the weekend. And I know you mentioned putting heads
and beds. I like that phrase. But when you look
at construction, as you mentioned, is there a way to
discern the differentation between residential commercial building and industrial commercial

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because that's one of the things Bessett was speaking of
yesterday and talking about the job numbers that will be coming,
but it's been delayed because the facilities are not yet
been constructed to hire these people.

Speaker 7 (18:30):
Yes, on the construction side, we can look at residential
and non residential, and in South Carolina both are doing
fairly well. On the residential side again because people are
moving into the state and we are seeing construction respond
and that's happening all over South Carolina, particularly on the
coastal regions of South Carolina's Myrtle Beach and Charleston really

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being the big two. But Columbia is doing well also,
So residential construction has been doing well statewide. If we
look at industrial or non residential construction, there depends on
the sector. You can look at multifamily that has been
fairly stable. If we look at commercial office space, that's
where the real weakness has been, and retail has been

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fairly stable. Overall, office spaces I had a bit of
a pullback, but that's not new to twenty twenty five.
That's more broadly because of what we've seen in the
post pandemic era, where the hybrid work environment has made
commercial office space not quite as attractive as it has been.
But in terms of construction, related to what Scott Besson
is talking about, a lot of that is manufacturing space

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that is being built for new facilities that are coming
into the United States, and he's right that if we're
seeing a lot of announcements that haven't necessarily started construction
or started building yet, then that could be something we
don't see till twenty twenty six. In the meantime, South
Carolina is already doing fairly well in construction, and we'll
see if some of these announcements translate into action, which

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would begin to manifest itself sometime next year.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
You're one of the premier economists in this state and
you get the opportunity, I'm sure to give your opinion
to some of the state leaders as to how the
state should be moving forward. Just as a broad picture,
I mean construction for homes and things that's fantastic. Is
that where you think we should be focusing our energy?

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Or if you were to advise or just tell us
with a magic wand what would doctor von Nessen want
to see the state doing? That will set us up
for you know, twenty thirty fifty year success. What would
you see? Is it going to continue to be tourism,
Is it going to be agriculture?

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Where are we going to grow?

Speaker 7 (20:38):
I would say there are three primary sectors that are
going to be driving our growth going forward. One is
going to be healthcare. And we've talked a lot about
healthcare in previous months, how that's been a major driver
of growth for the US. But that's true in South
Carolina as well, and that's because we have an aging population,
and we have a rapidly growing population and that's going
to generate more demand for health care. So that's going

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to the front and center for growth in terms of
high levels of demand. Second is going to be logistics
and all things related to logistics, particularly transportation and distribution,
because population growth, not just in South Carolina but in
the Southeast means that more companies are going to be
wanting to locate in South Carolina so that they can

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distribute consumer goods. So think about Walmart or Amazon distribution
centers and all of the logistics and transportation companies that
have to support those types of businesses. So that logistics
sector thinking about what do we need to be doing
as a state to make sure that we can land
those companies that are looking to locate in the Southeast already.
And then the third is going to be advanced manufacturing,

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which has been a major driver of our growth in
the previous decade and the principal contributor to why South
Carolina has been doing so well compared to the national average.
And so we have to look at ways for all
three sectors to remain competitive and to make sure that
we're meeting the needs of these businesses, and we can
talk about what we can be doing for those sectors,

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but the big two are making sure that we maintain
and enhance our infrastructure and make sure that we are
continuing to engage in workforce development, in other words, training
workers in South Carolina to be able to meet the
needs of these employers. Those are the two things that
as a state we need to be doing, and that
we have been doing already that have been very successful.
So we need to build on those and basically do

(22:24):
more of what we're already doing.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Doctor Joy von Nesson, Research Economist, the University of South Carolina,
Darla Moore School of Business, Thank you so much for
your insights so on what's happening in our state. We
appreciate your time, sir.

Speaker 7 (22:36):
Thank you guys, my pleasure.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Now we did have to.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Edit that interview as well, so if you want to
hear more information about the state of South Carolina, you
could hear that on our podcast YEP and the rastodd
podcast is available on the iHeartRadio app. What we learned
in Jasper County, well what we learned and we're not
happy about Well fin We're going to talk about that
in segment four.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
But next up. They have a popular swamp.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Talk Jonathan and Kelly show Rush.

Speaker 8 (23:01):
The story has trickled up from from local news to
social media and now to the President's attention, and it's
being used, as you said, Brian, as a political symbol.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Kelly Nash maga media.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
Calling for more forceful punishments and more incarceration.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
See then goes back to the Charlotte LTL video that
unfortunately on top of Charlie Kirk. We saw those videos
over and over again. It's been a very distressing week
on social media. But as he pointed out on CNN
Bryan Stetler that this girl, look, this is not even
the national story. This is a local story. It should
barely make the Charlotte Debserver.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
I mean, look, that's not the only nasty video that's
been posted this week there. Like you said, social media
has become a cesspool of Maybe this is my social
media feed. I don't know, probably because I watched that
video and I stuck with it for maybe two or
three minutes, and I watched it several times, Like I
can't believe I was more shocked by the people getting

(24:00):
up and leaving her. That was the image of her
covering her mouth and crying, and then other people, I
don't know if the word is right as ignoring, like
they acknowledged it, and then they stepped away from her,
like they were afraid to catch what she caught.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, the ones that remained seated, I'm just going to
give them the benefit of the doubt that they were
so shell shocked that they couldn't even move, because most
people when they see tragedies like that immediately run. Well,
given that you're in a train car, you couldn't run necessarily,
but you would get away from it. They were just stonefaced.
I just know that Brian Stetler from now on and
CNN will determine what is a national story, But I
would argue this is an international story. She wouldn't even

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be here if it weren't for Joe Biden. She wouldn't
be coming from a war torn country to the US
end up in Charlotte on the wrong train at the
wrong time, seated in the wrong seat. Apparently, if we're
going to mark it off that this guy is truly
just out of his mind, which will probably be the case.
But I don't know what becomes more of a story
for CNN than this story with its international nationh and

(25:00):
local wrinkles having to do with what we're seeing in
cities nationwide.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Well, if you're looking for narrative, that's there's nothing in
that narrative that they want. I mean, you don't want
that girl had to leave her home land because of
the Joe Biden weakness. You don't want to talk about
the fact that the Democrats have been so loose on crime,
and they they disguise empathy, sympathy, whatever they want to

(25:24):
call it, it's actually hate is what they're offering. So
if you're if you are, if you're that guy, the
guy who's the murderer, he needed help. They rejected his
pleas for help. He called nine to one one on
himself several times. His mother said he should have been
in an institution, and the judge and a bunch of
other leftists said no, no, no, he just needs he

(25:46):
needs his freedom. That's not empathy. That's denying him the
mental health that he needed led to her death. So
it's it's not helping him, it's not helping her, it's
not helping society. And Democrats continue to have these types
of very bizarre policies. I mean, whether it's you know,
we talked about AOC earlier. Her bizarre pitch. I mean,

(26:09):
you know, she acts as if we don't have like
they call him red flag laws. It's already a legal
If you've been found by a judge to be needed
inst to be institutionalized, you cannot have a gun. If
you need to have mental help, you cannot have a
gun right now. That is federal law has been that
way for decades. They but what she's proposing her common

(26:33):
sense gun reform is I can accuse Jonathan right now
and say he's mentally unstable for no other reason other
than I don't like them, and then the police, out
of an abundance of caution under her law, would have
to take all his weapons. We'll get him back to
you after we figured out the situation. That situation will
probably take is about as long as it takes to
figure out if somebody should be allowed asylum in this country.

(26:54):
So he'll get his guns back in ten years. That's
what her common sense gun reform is.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Now that he the gun casings with the markings, it's
going to be interesting to see how she will continue.
But it'd be interesting to see how gun control is
going to play into the conversation next week that was
correlating the two stories with the videos that we mentioned here,
and even when Charlie Kirk was shot. Brian Setlin must
have been the producer in charge of that particular moment,
because they did not do any about the assassination. In

(27:22):
their covering, MSNBC was talking about how Donald Trump had
actually taken away money that would prevent crime, as the
one that we saw in Charlotte, so that he can
then use the National Guard to march in to bring
order to the streets of America, thus using authoritarian measures
to take over with his national police force as he

(27:43):
puts together as gestapa.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Are you suggesting that the National Guard should have been
at the Charlie Kirk event.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
No, what I'm saying. They were not going to cover
the Charlie Kirk event. They were too busy already telling
you how Trump was taken over the country.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Well, I'm going to put up a not a plea.
I am hopeful, sound very hopeful. Katie Turr, who I
think was the host when the guy Dowd went nuts
and started implying that Charlie she might have been shot
by a supporter inadvertently. I think she was the host
at the time. I'm not one hundred percent sure. However,

(28:17):
on Thursday, she came out with a strong condemnation not
only of that guy, but anybody on the left who,
as she said, you cannot make any excuses for any violence.
There's never an excuse, no matter what a man or
a woman or anybody says. In America, we're supposed to tolerate

(28:39):
people screaming at you. We're supposed to tolerate people who
have very different opinions. You think that their opinion leads
to death, that's fine. You don't get to kill them.
You don't get to have violence against them. That is
a very big change of tone for MSNBC. I don't
know if it was a moment of clarity or if
this is a permanent turn that the network is making.

(29:01):
I won't be watching over the weekend to find out,
but I'm sure i'll see some clips on Monday, so
we'll find out if it's stayed well.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Speaking of Tourney, one of the things that repeated was
the fact that in the aftermath of the tragedy, it
was the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Many people reference this
is a turning point certainly it has the possibility of
being that I was taken back to World War Two
when I remembered what I had to look it up
online to make sure I got it right. Japanese Admiral

(29:28):
Yaromato said, I feel we have done nothing but awaken
a sleeping giant, and he went on to say, and
fill him with terrible resolve. If you're a Democrat, that
would be a terrible resolve. As they try to come
up with a Democrat answer to Charlie Kirk's outreach to
younger Americans and haven't been able to do it. But
just as DJT was a clear and present nanger to
the current leadership, certainly Charlie Kirk because of his influence

(29:51):
with young people who are now rethinking their political position,
the Democrats can't come up with the answer for that.
I'm not saying and we talked about this a little bit,
and if you listen to the extended conversation with Jim
de Mint, I'm not saying that Democrats were responsible for this.
I'm just saying that that was a massive voice for
younger Americans. The Democrats could not equal with their messaging,

(30:14):
and certainly it made them very nervous.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Well.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Many people point to Charlie Kirk as the reason. He
was the reason that Donald Trump won. He's also the
reason that jd Vance is your vice president. Ja d
Vance has said as much that jd Vance was a
never Trumper in twenty sixteen and it was a discussion
with Charlie Kirk that changed his opinion and Charlie Kirk

(30:36):
encouraged him to run for senator. Charlie Kirk is the
one who suggested a phone call between Donald Trump Junior
and Jade Vance because Trump Junior wanted nothing to do
with him. He said, I heard what he said about
my father. Why would I ever talk to that loser?
And it was and once that piece was made, then
the introduction that Donald Trump was made, and so on

(30:57):
and so forth. So Charlie Kirk was a huge influence
on the right wing. And like you said, and many
others have said now that there's a thousands of young
people who have been inspired by We had a story
in today's I Think State or Posting Courier talking about
two or three of the young Republican leaders in our state,
people who have been elected to office here, who pointed

(31:18):
at the fact that they went to a Charlie Kirk
event where they watched his podcast and that's what influenced them. So, yes,
he's going to be missed, but also to a bigger point,
I think he's going to be an inspiration to a
whole group of people.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, he was certainly the greatest threat to the Democrats
decades long now indoctrination in our public education system, and
now he was threatening to unravel their future harvest of
brainwashed liberal socialist embracing abortion enthusiasts. So that was a
massive threat to them. And it may end up not
being another reference in history, just a shot heard around

(31:54):
the country. It may end up being a shot heard
around the world because of turning point.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
UK.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
UK is so far behind us right now, So the UK,
pray for the UK, pray for all of Europe. That
is a disaster what's going on over in their homeland.
You know, we could have a disaster on our hands.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Jonathan.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
We're just over two weeks away from the shutting down
of the US government. I've learned that when the US
government shuts down, that there's no hope, that all hope
is lost and we all will starve. And yet it
seems according to a Friday morning interview with Chuck Schumer
and the Associated Press. Now he's the one who wants it,

(32:31):
he says, unless the Republicans cave to us and stop
the cuts to Medicaid, yes, then we're going to shut
it down. We have to show the president that we're serious.
So again, Chuck Schumer says, you can never shut the
government down for any reason, but this one time. Unless
you restore illegal aliens to the Medicaid program, unless you

(32:55):
restore dead people to Medicaid, then no, we are going
to shut it down. So that happens September thirtieth.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
And you and I remember that argument be made even
ten years ago by people like Chuck Schumer if it
was not in fact Chuck Schumber. But now democracy hangs
in the balance, Kelly.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Well, again, his whole thing is it's all about healthcare slash.
We've got to restore the funding.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Now.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
He's also upset that the Republicans are clawing back several
billion dollars because certain countries in certain programs, like you know, Usaid.
We're not going to give them the money anymore, Chuck,
But we already voted for it, so you've got to
They're out of business. Chuck not going to do it.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Hang on. We got a lot of things to cover
and we only got a short time to do it.
And one of the things we want to get to
is how do we best spend our money in educating
our young people.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
I'd tell you let Chuck Schumer figure it out.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Hey, Jasper County, we may have an answer for you.
Hang on, we'll get to that in a second.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show. Rush, We'll say that that's
take news.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Don't.

Speaker 7 (34:03):
Let's say quiet listen.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
You don't listen.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
You never listening.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
That's why you're second grade.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Kelly Nash.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
We're not going to war.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
We're going to clean up our city.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
That's not war.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
That's common sense.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Donald Trump, we're not missing an opportunity to put the
fake news in their place.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Some much needed man splaying in there.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yes, be quiet, listen. We're not sending the Secretary of
War Pete Headseth on the leading tank going into Illinois.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
We're not. We're not declaring war in Illinois.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Come home, and he has nothing to do with the
Department of War, honey, not nothing to do with it.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
We get to wrap up the program with something we've
talked about several times before. We've even talked to our
Superintenative Education, Ellen Weaver, particularly about Jasper County having to
do with their county school district.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah, and a lot of people said, that's an overreach
from the Department of Education. You don't have to take
over the county. And she kind of forced the hand
of the school board to vote themselves into extinction. And
now I think we know a little more why thanks
to a foya put out by the Posting Courier, they
have found that officials I'm just reading this misspent more

(35:13):
than four point one million dollars collected through the penny tax. Now,
according to this, there's a lot of pennies, Kelly, Yes,
and it wasn't this. This is the part that blows
my mind is that it was five withdraws from the
account that's supposed to be used for the penny tax.
Five withdraws that totaled four point one million dollars according

(35:36):
to the district's bond attorney. He confirmed that the money
was used for debt that is unrelated to what the
penny tax projects were, and then confirmed we also have
no paperwork, so.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
We're so hoping we find out that they were really
doing a good job as being stewarts of the county's
money by buying in bulk for their students classroom needs
at Sam's Club. But we don't have a seat from Sam's.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Club, apparently not. I just you know the fact that
the district's bond attorney confirmed. I'm just gonna say that
the money was misspent because it's you're you're saying I
spent it on debt that I know we're not allowed
to spend it on because it's unrelated to what the
penny tax project was legalized for. So we misspent the money,

(36:22):
and you have to trust me. You have to trust
that we actually misspent it, that we didn't actually just
go ahead and outright steal it.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Well, I don't know why you would cast dispersions on
the fat We shouldn't trust them. I mean, look, look here,
right here in the middle of Richlin County Council and
school boards. We can trust them with spending our money wisely?

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Oh can we?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Now?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, we've had nothing but great success with the penny tax.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
You know something I keep pointing to, and this is
this is it seems like in the federal governments, our
national debt at this point it's like thirty seven trillion
by the tip over to thirty eight. And then you
get down to the state of South Carolina. How many
different funds do we willfully behind on?

Speaker 4 (36:59):
We got a lot of unfunded mandates. I know that.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Then you get down to the county. How much money
just in Richland County that you and I see every day.
Then you know all of this is Laren behavior seemingly.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Is it learned or is it I think you know
where they say total power corrupts and total power corrupts totally.
I just feel like governments are always going to try
to take and take and take, and then if nobody
puts them in check, that's when the problems really begin.
If the people were very plugged in around the country,

(37:30):
if they were all plugged in into the local issues,
the state issues, the federal issues, we don't have these problems.
But they're not because we always point out they're busy
living their lives. They got soccer practice and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Well, one thing we can look forward to is more
insult to probably yet more discovered discovered injury. As the
South Carolina Department of revenue audit of Jasper County School District.
The Department of Revenue spokesperson did not answer questions as
of yet as to how the money was misspent.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
I do like the fact that the Democrats and many
others said that again we have Republicans targeting black districts,
and Ellen Weaver is a you know, they call them
a racist. I mean, they call Republicans racist. They'll go
to any county, whether it's run by Latinos, whites, blacks,

(38:21):
or anybody, when they find out that they've misspelled four
point one million dollars. And according to the person doing
the audit, since the district is now three years behind
and closing out their fiscal years, we have no idea
what kind of financial condition the district is actually in
at this point.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
It could be a decade before we ever get an answer.
We might see an entire graduating generation through Jasper County
before we get an answer for them. But wait, what
baited breath, Thank you Tome. We don't need any more
insults immediately. Twelve years from now will be fine. Hey,
don't forget the best game cat coverage begins today three
hours before kickoff. Well maybe this case because it starts

(38:58):
at seven forty five time. Exactly does the Best Game
Got cover?

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Christopher Thompson confirms that all starts at four point thirty
this afternoon.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Go Cox.

Speaker 8 (39:07):
I wish that all of you will come back again
next week.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Well, so on Pole, We'll be back next week