10 02 25 The guy at the SC State House with the bullhorn is LYING! and so are most news outlets!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, how they characterized it, You want to give
health insurance to undocumented immigrants.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
That's a lie, Kelly Nash.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
But what you support does bring back funding for emergency Medicaid,
some of which does pay for undocumented immigrants, asylum seekers,
and people with temporary protected status. They're non citizens show.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I have a little snaff foo there on the intro.
Sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's so funny though it's a lie.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
It's a lie.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
But you do pay for healthcare for non citizens and
people who are undocumented workers. And in the old days
we called those illegals. Maybe that's so they've redefined what
an illegal alien is.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Three different classifications. Could be here in a temporary status,
let me here as a refugee, a seeking asylum, could
be here under a work card. They're not citizens, they're residents.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
You know, it's so funny to be a Democrat and
like just change definitions of words and create new words.
Like I'm wondering, here's a thought.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I just had this thought because there's a joke that
was going around years ago about well, if women only
get paid seventy five cents on the dollar, compared to
a man, and they do just as good a job.
Why don't companies only hire women?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
You would think the guys would be impossible for a
guy to get a job.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
But what happens to a guy who's making that dollar
who then reidentifies as a female. Does he get a
pay cut?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
It's a great way.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Or what if a woman is making the seventy five
cents on the dollar, but she now says I identify
as a mail does she get a pay bump? And
in reality, we all.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Know because we've all worked in the workplace where typically
you would find the fact that most companies are paying
the same per merit filled job description to that person,
no matter the sex. But as you take the statistical
data and then you roll it over a long period
of time, a lot of women take time off to
have a child. Some of them take time off after

(02:04):
the child for like five or six years, maybe until
the kid goes to school. Then they go back into
the workforce, and then they take the lifetime of that
person and then they extrapulate the information based on the
total salary earnings of their career and they come up
with a statistical number that they can use. It does
have credibility. It is the truth. I'm telling you the truth,
but it is not representative of the truth because it's

(02:28):
been somehow manipulated and extrapulated. And Kelly can tell you
you can take an extrapulation and make it say anything
you want.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, they would say, I'm assuming as trying to again
think like a liberal, that what you've said is accurate
and factual, which shows the systemic flaws in America. Every
human being deserves a right to life, and every human
being deserves a million dollars a year, whether they work
or don't work. See, that's where you need that lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Jonathan, Well, I was thinking about this just the other
because I was talking to my neighbor who's got a
great gig. Well, he's got he's got an interesting gig.
Most of his business is overseas. So when I get
up at two o'clock in the morning, I go into
the kitchen for a glass of water, maybe make a
peanut and and jelly sandwich. As you know, I am
wont to do. I will look across the street and
his lights are on over there in his bedroom, and

(03:18):
I know what he's doing. He's doing a conference call
with somebody in China because he's greedy. No, because he
does most of his work overseas as a consultant, so
he's doing these Chinese or whatever phone calls in the
middle of the night. But he was he's got a
child that's gonna be born soon. Now with his job,

(03:39):
he gets three months off, three months off.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Three Well, let me just tell you something, Jonathan. You
live in the and you always whenever you're going to
be a liberal and you're going to say something, you
have to preface it with. We live in the richest
nation in the history of the world, and you're telling
me that I have to work. You're telling me You're
sitting there looking me dead in my eye, saying we

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are surrounded in luxury and wealth, and I have to
go be a plumber. I have to go work at
a grocery store. I there is no rea, there's no
conceivable way that we can't outsource this to our friends
south of the border. Bring in the slave labor. Let
the slave labor handle all the menial jobs that Americans

(04:25):
don't want to do, and then just issue a million
dollar check to every American, whether they're male or female.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Jonathan, And you're saying whether you're right, whether the male
or female, they get the same way.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
They get a million dollars and then we all live
the lifestyle and we take it away from the billionaires. Obviously,
the billionaires, they shouldn't be allowed to exist. We probably
kill them when we take their money and we use
that to pay for this program.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, the only reason I bring that up is because
you haven't read that stat lately where they talk about
the women being underpaid by man. Now, maybe I just
missed it, maybe it was printed and I somehow missed it.
But because we started adding in the months for guys,
but they were still paid, So I don't know that.
Maybe my theory is wrong on that. I can tell

(05:08):
you that we stopped printing the national what is that
the annual report we used to read all the time
from the Traffic Safety National d G. Yeah, where they
showed the number of deaths per automobiles. Haven't seen that
printed in the paper in a long time, have you?
Because the new cafe standards man insist nearly that a
manufacturer's made these cars on a cardboard. So we're having

(05:31):
more people die and they don't want to explain why,
because these automobiles basically were literally made a cardboard, So
when you have an accident, much more brutal now to
the passengers in the drivers.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
But think of how much better the world is now
that we make these very light cars because they use
a lot less fuel exactly and because and so now,
really again, the existential threat has always been global warming.
We've all all the smart people have recognized that the
threat to your life is not a lunatic running them

(06:05):
up with a weapon. It's the fact that the climate
is changing and that's going to kill us all. So
the best thing you can do is drive the crappiest
little car. Do they still make you goos? If we
could bring back the ugos, we should all do that.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
You know, you would have thought yougo would have come
back for sure by now. I mean it was the
car made out of cardboard. It had a two I
think it was a two cycle engine.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Did it have an engine? I thought it was kind
of Fred Flintstone it, I mean, just put your feet
out the bottom and just.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Two cylinder four cycles it was I don't know, maybe
it was maybe it was a two cylinder two cycle.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
They would have nice to see that breaking news. Lindsay
Graham is donating his salary during the shutdown.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
The way, what an awkward moment that was for Hakeem.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Well, we're not going to talk about it because we're
not going to have a shutdown. A lot of people
are talking about that, a lot of our members, and
they're each going to have to come to a conclusion themselves.
What about you, Yeah, well, I don't want to talk
about it because we're not going to have an extended shutdown,
so that.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
It's not even the it's not even the valley question
because it's not going to go on that long.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
So so then you're saying that you're going to cave
in the next couple of days because you think Donald
Trump is going to give you one and a half
trillion dollars. Is that what you actually expect us to believe?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
A zuzu celebrates the South Carolina groundbreaking. I'm waiting to
hear from Yugo. You go's got to be coming back.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Can we bring back Joe Azuzu? Whatever happened to Joe?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Whatever happened to him?

Speaker 3 (07:26):
I love that guy.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Maybe he died in the tragic, tragic automobile driving to
damn what used to be a damn refrigerator box has
put on wheels to make sure Obama's cafe standards from that.
Just because you got a couple of dead South Carolinians
in the ditch, at least when you go to the
grape side now you can celebrate the fact that they
we're saving the world. That makes it much better.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
That'll be That's a great way to honor them.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Now go back to let's go back to Jack Trapper,
who laid the trap, apparently for Hakeem.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I don't think I don't think it brought him any joy.
I don't think Jack Trapp wants to do it well.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
When he said it was a lie, Trapper did say,
if you listen carefully, it is a lie. But then
he went on to ask because he thought that Hachem
had an answer, which he didn't. So specifically, as we
talk about the classifications of residents who aren't necessarily citizens,
who will benefit from the fact that you're going to
hold America hostage so that we can get persons who
were here not citizens, And I'm not saying they're not

(08:23):
paying taxes. I'm not sure whose Social Security check is
being attached to because of being paid under the table.
Possibly all of that lays at the feet of the
federal government, allowing the employers to continue to abuse people
from all over the world. Bring us you're tired, your
huddle masses, you think your ass is tired, you better
get your button to pick and damn peaches. So when

(08:44):
you go through this entire process, I am glad to
see and I wanted to include it in the intro
to that because I saw an interesting interview last night
with Wright's Prebus, who was on with one Sean Hannity
and I've forgotten who else was on in this particular bit,
but they were talking to and they were talking about
what we're talking about, what exactly is the hold up?
And what are the Democrats not want to go along

(09:06):
to get along? What are they going to do with
a one point five trillion they want to spend today?
And then how exactly are we going to try to
undo some of the one Big Beautiful Bill restrictions that
led or went hand in hand with the Doze efforts
to clean up the wasteful fraud and abuse and otherwise
wasting money for the federal budget. And he was quick
to point out a couple of things, and one thing

(09:27):
I did not know, and because we've always heard prior
that doctors really don't want to get on the Medicaid
boat wagon because Medicaid doesn't pay the amount of money
that they probably would get just if you're paying out
a pocket, and probably pays them even less money than
your Blue Cross Blue Shield. Negotiators were able to set
the standard of usual in customary as the procedures that

(09:49):
would allow the doctor's x amount of dollars for a procedure,
no matter what you went in for. They've already covered
all of that, and they're getting a price break because
they're shoving all the Blue Cross Blue Shield covered person's
through your front door. So you're agreeing somehow to see
them at a slightly lesser rate. But Wright's previous says that,
and we've all been there. You go to the emergency room,

(10:10):
it's eleven thirty at night, you feel like you're in
a third world country because everybody in there is speaking Spanish,
and you're waiting patiently to see the doctor, which takes
hours on end, maybe days, because the damn thing is
crammed with people. So I did not realize. And he
claimed it's true, and that Republicans in particularly been pushing

(10:31):
back and the amount of money and these reimbursements for
Medicaid expenses at the emergency rooms, because he said, typically
what they charge medicaid is much more than what they
would charge the average person coming through the door with
a blue Cross blue shield company issue policy or paying
out a pocket. I didn't know that was the case.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Well, they told us that during COVID because there's so
many people who can't afford to pay for it, and
so they got a spit those people. So they got
to backdoor the deal off the American taxpayers.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
So they increase the amount they charge for Medicare recept Medicaid,
not Medicare, Medicaid in this specific instance, not that.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
The Medicaid recipient notices that no nobody ever looked at
the you notice it, but the deficit rising, and perhaps
you notice the fact that Donald Trump and the big
beautiful bill cut one point one trillion. That's with a
t trillion dollars to fund that insanity. The overwhelming majority,
overwhelming majority are what we would call you and I

(11:34):
and plane speak would say illegal aliens. They'll have, like
Jonathan said, there's eighteen different classifications, Like there's eighteen different genders.
Now they come up with all these words, but these
are not They have not paid into the system, nor
have their ancestors paid into the system. Nobody they know
has paid into the system. Yet they will be taking

(11:56):
out of the system. So Trump said, no, we're not
paying for that crap anymore. One point one trillion dollars
is coming back to the American taxpayers. Now that is
Chuck Schumer doesn't even want the one point one trillion back.
He wants one and a half trillion. I guess he
wants an extra four hundred billion dollars for the insult.
And that's really what this whole government shut down is about.

(12:19):
How many Americans will be hurt by this. I'm not
going to say no one, because you can never say
you can't. It's impossible to make blanket statements. It's kind
of like during an ICE raid. Are American citizens being detained?

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Absolutely, because anytime there's an Ice raid, I'll always remind
you of this. This would all be avoided if the
Democrats in these sanctuary cities and states did the right thing.
And when they arrest in illegal for a non real
the crime is not being illegal. The crime is you
robbed a liquor store, the crime is you were drunk driving,

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the crime is domestic violence, whatever your crime is, once
they check your status, if they followed the federal law
and contacted ICE and said we have an undocumented person
or however you want to phrase it, and let them
come pick them up while they're in jail, everything is
easy peasy. But you refuse to do that. You go
as far as sneaking them out, so then ICE has

(13:19):
to then try to find them at the home depot,
try to find nowhere, and then in the middle of
all that people get hurt. Unintended consequences. You also have,
like you said, maybe American citizens are being detained for
a time while they checked their papers. It's a very
ugly mess, all perpetrated by the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Tom Holmes told you over and over again. If you
would only help us out by turning them over once
you get them in the system, we don't have to
go into your neighborhoods. We don't we're not busting down
doors at six o'clock in the morning. We don't have
any possible collateral damage from anybody standing nearby or family members.
If you would only do it the right way, then
we wouldn't be in your neighborhoods. We'd just be swinging
by the police station, picking them up and moving them

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out quietly.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
We're not going to tree them like you all treated
Roger Stone.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
And then because I was having his text message yesterday
with somebody who apparently got into an argument in their
office over this situation with a flaming liberal, and my
first answer to their text was very surface level, but
just a quick answer having to do with the illegal status.
I said, but you got to realize something the government

(14:26):
has given, particularly under Joe Biden, so many temporary status
certificates that we have so many temporaries here for a
number of different reasons. But the other thing I did
not realize, and that's going on, is that and we
all know that each state runts its own Obamacare web
portal first and foremost, because remember when they launched Obamacare,

(14:47):
it didn't work. So you've got like I think in
Tennessee is called ten it's called ten something anyway, every
state has their own portal. So with the portal, then
because the states run them much like they run their
own Medicare system, it gives them the opportunity to expand

(15:07):
the recipients through their own monitored and regulated web pages.
So that's another way that the states are actually funneling
the money to illegals, because since you might imagine you
get a state with a bunch of sanctuary cities, they're
certainly going to make sure they take care of the
illegals here by giving them medicaid, Medicare, or what other
titlement benefits are available through their offices. And we know

(15:30):
this to be true because we had I think it
was Ralph Norman who was pitching a fit in Spartanburg.
We had the office that was signing up people for
a bunch of programs they weren't entitled to because they
were illegal. So it goes on here in South Carolina
as well.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Oh it's every state's a border state, and this is
part of the destruction of America.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
But the reason I brought that up is Wrights made
a great point. The Republicans need to make sure they
just don't say you're giving medicare Medicaid to illegals. You
need to give them examples of how that is actually
playing out so people can understand because they've probably seen
it in their own workplace or emergency rooms.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yes, it certainly makes it harder for you to get
quote unquote healthcare because illegals have clogged the system. And
I mean, here's the frustrating thing for me. Is there
a benefit to being a US citizen? There used to
be there was a time in the not too distant
past when being a US citizen that that title was

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coveted because you were you were protected, Your homeland was protected.
We had never had a battle on our homeland. No
wars were fought here since the Revolutionary War we and
then the Civil War, but that was amongst ourselves. But
you weren't going to come in with the Japanese. They

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weren't going to come attack us here. You know, nobody
would dare dream dream of coming to fight in American
when we went abroad. Sure there were the Europeans would
mock us, They so and so on, so he's OK,
well whatever, but they most most countries were very excited
to have an American there. And the world knew if

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you you can kill a bunch of people from a
bunch of different countries and that's okay, you kill an
American citizen. Hell's about to come down on this city
wherever this city is Hell's coming, and that's the way
it should be. It The name American citizen really needs
to be valued. And what we've done is we've completely

(17:37):
watered it down. And now all these people from all
over the world have come here. They've taken advantage of
our graciousness, and they've abused the system to the point
where now our own children are suffering. Our children are
suffering so that their children can do better. What kind
of perversion is this. It needs to stop, and I

(17:59):
think most common sense people have come to that conclusion.
We're not going to sacrifice our kids so some Venezuelan
kids can do better, or Honduran kids or whatever kids.
I don't care if they're from Ireland, Scotland, wherever our
kids come first. These are Life is about making decisions
because everything has an effect. If you want the speed

(18:19):
limit said at fifty five, you know you're going to
get about fifty thousand deaths annually. You said it at
forty five that you're going to get about thirty thousand
card deaths per year. You said it at twenty you're
gonna get about ten thousand card deaths a year. We
said it at fifty five because we said we're cool
with fifty thousand Americans dying annually. You want to go faster,
make it the national speed limit eighty Okay, you're going

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to lose one hundred and fifty thousand Americans. We said
that's too much you had. But when you say Honduran kid,
American kid, if you're if you're prioritizing anybody over the
American kid, you're out of whack.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
While you were describing the fact that these other persons
for coming here and with him, they bring their own culture,
which becomes a problem because the reason he wanted to
come here is supposedly is to be an American, but
you don't want to assimilate. It reminded me of a
great scene in Taken, the First Take A movie with
Liam Neeson. You come here to the game, the system,

(19:15):
that's all take advantage. You take advantage of the opportunities.
You perceive our tolerance as weakness. Your arrogance offends me.
What a great scene in that movie. It's a perfect
description of what we've seen play out. But the Democrats
are facilitating all this, and they want you to pay
extra for it.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
We just had a story in Charleston the other day.
I heard it on WVOC Katie Gray reporting, and Katie
Gray was talking about there was a person who lives
in a Charleston neighborhood. His illegal alien next door neighbor
was playing his music loud and was drunk. He went

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over to confront him. The guy doesn't speak English, of course,
not the American. The Charleston resident was trying to get
the guy to shut his music off because it's getting
later in the in the evening, and the drunk illegal
beat him up, dragged him and locked him in a
shed and was just gonna let him I guess die.

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I don't know what he was planning on doing with them,
but thankfully other neighbors got tired of the noise. They
called the cops. The cops showed up, and when they
were arresting this guy because he was so whatever belligerent,
they heard the banging in the shed and they went
out there and they said, how long have you been here?
He said like two hours and he's all bloodied up

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and beaten up. And that's you know, you talk about
the arrogance, and it's almost like they have a disdain
for us, and it's like, you do you not understand
you're in our country. Joe Biden took away our country.
Joe Biden said, there are no borders. Joe Biden set
up an app and said, if you'd like to live
an American and have us pay for everything, just fill

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it out on the app. That way, we can't we
can't call you an illegal because you asked, You asked
for us to pay for everything. So of course the
Americans will pay for everything. That was sheer insanity, and we're.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Seeing it play out, unfortunately, and more and more news coverages,
which unfortunately we will be talking about in future podcast. Yesterday,
we had a little bit of a dust up there
right in front of the State House. There's a Senate
bill three twenty three if you want to look it
up and read more about it. Unknown Child Protection Act

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would potentially be the most restrictive abortion bill in the country. Now,
we had a lot of people come out in support
of and well, certainly you know there'll be protesters here.
What I didn't realize is that, in fact, we got
people pridefully bussing them in. But now, as the dust
up continued in the yesterday, that's when you started hearing

(22:02):
a lot of people speaking out and telling you why
you should be it Maybe just maybe just walking down
the sidewalk right there at manager By and you go, hey,
what's going on over here, and that's where you get
all the information you need from one of the guys
out there with a blowhorn.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, they're lying about what the proposed band would do,
and they're also lying about where we're at. Like they're
talking about we're one of the strictest states in America.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
We're not.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
We're not even close. I mean, if they're ranking it,
the strictest abortion laws are in Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Idaho, Arkansas, Alabama,
South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia. Those are the states
that have almost total abortion bands. We're in the next wave.
We're with Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Nebraska, and North Carolina. That's

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where we're at. So we're not even close to being
the strictest in the country. But that being said, there
was a proposal by some representatives that are Republican in
nature who would like us to step up to match
those other states that I just mentioned Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, though,
and so on and so forth. And of course when

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you start talking about abortion laws, you're going to have tension,
You're gonna have a lot of feelings, and there's people
who feel divided about it. They understand both sides of
the equation. What if the woman was raped, What if
the woman didn't find out she was pregnant. It is

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conceivable that she could go ten eleven weeks without knowing
she was pregnant. That's not inconceivable. Do we then say, listen,
she doesn't have to have the baby now because she
didn't want to have the baby. And there's all these
complexities and so, yes, there's gonna be hostilities. But what
you saw yesterday at the state House was a disgrace.

(23:53):
You just have people openly lying and saying that if
you have a miscarriage that you're going to be charged
with a crime.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
You're going to be sitting in the prison if you
have a miscarriage, Kelly.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
That's that's what they were saying.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Wow, that seemed like a little bit of an overreach.
But if I'm a doctor and I'm performing the surgery
and something goes wrong with the child.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Dies, your prison bound, according to these protesters.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
So the blowhorn guy said that that doctor is going
to be frogmarks to prison.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
So when you when you hear that, like if I
wasn't I don't know what the word is. I don't
want to say smarter or more intent or whatever, but
if I just didn't have any other news source other
than the guy with the microphone. And the guy with
the microphone says, join us, because we believe that it

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shouldn't be illegal for a woman to suffer a miscarriage.
If a woman, why compound her tragedy of losing her
child that she wanted so desperately by compounded by sending
her to prison for a year. I would, if I
didn't know anything else, Yeah I would. I'm shoulder to
shoulder with you.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, you got to walk across the street and join
your protest. Why we can't be with these people. These
people want to send a woman who's already suffered the
loss of a child to lose thirty years in prison.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
And then the doctor who was trying to save the baby,
doing everything he could to save the baby, it didn't
work out, he too goes to prison. That's what they
would have you believe. And so yes, they get passions inflamed,
but it's with lies, and it's like Hakeem Jeffries. Hakeem
Jeffries is lying about what it is. And everybody's lying

(25:34):
in politics, it seems. But you know, the bills thankfully
are printed online. You can if you had the wherewithal
to actually go to your free Obama browser.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
And in this particular case, they were lying on the
outside because inside they were having like a public hearing,
you could actually had an opportunity to speak to the
person's own the Senate said committee.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
I appreciate that the posting Courier pointed out that the
only foul mouthed protesters were those on the left, because
there were protests on the right as well. I mean,
there's people who are very passionate on both sides of
this issue. But the ones on the left were the
ones that were telling the senators f you, you know,
screaming f you.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
And other.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Not nice words, and that's so nice, and they were
the ones that were being removed from the hall by
the authorities.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
And the reality of it is, and we saw this
even if you didn't look at the protest yesterday, or
even if you haven't read anything about Senate Bill three
twenty three, and given that it's still being formulated as
it is in the subcommittee, and we did have public
hearings about it, given all that, just knowing that the
process that we went through, and we even heard the
sister senators in Greenville because they all got together for

(26:45):
a little encore enclave conversation where they rehashed the same
thing that hashed before that happened in Greenville earlier in
the week and government masters are. He come out and
said he didn't believe the state needed any additional restrictions
on abortion reporters, that he was quote comfortable with where
we have rested now, even if the governor wanted to

(27:06):
push for more, and even if the subcommittee does come
out as a subcommittee it makes a recommendation that ends
up on the Senate floor. We've seen what a battle
this was to get where we are now. So it's
not like this thing is going to be signed next
week and we're going to be shipping doctors off to
a prison somewhere or maybe even as El Salvador I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Well, Again, if you want to get action, you got
to make it seem as if something horrific is about
to happen, and so you know, the idea that a
mother who suffers a miscarriage could be sent to jail
is horrific to everybody. We all agree on that. The
problem is, it's kind of like, hands up, don't shoot,

(27:48):
Hands up, don't shoot.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Was a lie. The guy with the bullhorn reminds me
of someone who's a typical phone scammer, and they're just
out there fishing all the time. So they call up.
They got this urgency in their voice and they're telling
you something like, Hey, this is Joe Smo from Dominion
Energy and we're going to be shutting down your electricity
here in about twenty minutes unless you get us a payment. Now.
The only forms of payment we accept our Walmart gift cards.

(28:09):
So if you want, if you don't want your electricity
to shut off at your business, you need to go
right now to the Walmart. You might want to keep
you on the phone. I'll tell you exactly which cards
to buy, and then make sure you get some cash
or stop off by the ATM machine. We got to
get this done because your schedule, it'll be turned off
in the next twenty minute. When they put that kind
of urgency in their voice. They're trying to get you
to do something without having any information to draw your

(28:32):
own conclusions or give you any information that's actually true.
So when the gab with the bullhorns out there screaming,
they're going to be hauling your doctors off to jail,
and they're going to be taking moms who had an abortion,
and they're going to be putting them over in the
electric chair. There's probably a lot of things that should
be the first signal that this information may or may
not be true, and you really need to step back

(28:53):
away from the gap with a bullhorn and actually go
read Cenibil three twenty three.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Well, if you read just our current law, WIS headline
this morning, WIS, your headline this morning should say we
are liars at WIS. I don't know how I can
make WIS into we are liars, but that's what you
you should be wal We are liars. So they say
in their beginning thing right here South Carolina, already with
the strictest anti abortion law in the country. Lie, it's

(29:21):
a lie that is not true. And then they go
on to talk about how people came on out to
protest and Wednesday blah blah, blah again. South Carolina's current
law the most restrictive in America, banning most abortions after
around six weeks into a pregnancy and only allowing them
past that point in cases that involved rape, incest, fatal

(29:45):
fetal diagnosis. Is to save the mother's life. That's our
current law, which is not that strict. I mean, the
only thing strict about it is that it starts at
six weeks. That's the strictest thing about it. Okay, But
like the idea of there's plenty of states that I
already just went through a handful of them that don't

(30:06):
allow you to get an abortion if you were raped
by your a blood relative or otherwise, that the only
allowance for an abortion would be to save the mother's life.
And it's because you know, I thought Charlie Kirk did
a great job explaining that position one time, you know,

(30:26):
like do you agree? Like and you always got to
start off at the extremes like do you agree that
at eight months that the child as a child? Right?
Do you agree? And as you walk yourself back to it,
so when did the life actually begin? And even with
the the pro pro pro abortion people, they had to

(30:50):
admit that, well, yes, once the egg was fertilized, something
was happening, was something happening there? Would that then be
described as a life that was happening there? Because if
it ends, that's a tragedy by everybody's standards. If the
mom wanted the baby and that she got to be

(31:11):
two weeks pregnant and it was confirmed she's two weeks
pregnant and then it stopped, would she be feel denied?
Of course she would. She would be heartbroken. So the
idea that these people, and by the way, in case
you're wondering, it's Richard Cash Republican, Anderson Rex Rice Republican, Pickens,
and Senator Billy Garrett Republican Greenwood. Those three are the

(31:34):
ones who've proposed the new bill and they want to
take it back to make it like those other states
that I already referenced. We're going to start at conception.
We're not going to allow abortions, and the only time
that we would allow abortion at any time would be
to save the mother's life. That's their idea. Now I

(31:56):
can if you're saying from a biblical standard, then they're
apps be right. And I don't even know that if
it's to save a mother's life. If that hits the
biblical standard, the biblical standards, you might say God will
save who God will save.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Well, and you get through the final article of finally
a couple of paragraphs. Senate Democrats, meanwhile, believe the Republican
counterparts like support in their own chamber to pass the bill,
but they won't know, and Senate Minority Leader Brad Huddo said,
unless it reaches the floor. So and again, the timeline
on these as we've seen play out time and time again,
particularly with this abortion issue, is not something that's ever

(32:34):
done under cover of darkness overnight. Is always openly debated
on the floor for a long time, and in this
last case was drugged to the Supreme Court three different
times if I remember correctly.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Well, next time we have any of these governor wannabes on,
we don't talk to Nancy Mace, but we do talk
to Alan Wilson, we do talk to Ralph Norman, and
we do talk to Pamela Evatt. We should ask them
where they would come down, because if this thing was
to go through, they would be the governor. So it's

(33:06):
not Henry McMaster's decision, because this wouldn't get passed until
sometime late next year. So if you were the governor
and you got this bill on your desk, would you
sign a bill that says, in essence, no abortions except
to save a mother's life.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
That would be a great question.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
And I'm not going to pass judgment on whether that's
a good thing or a bad thing. I'm not the governor,
but it'd be interesting just so everybody knew where these
three stand, and maybe that would have some impact on
how you would vote for them. I don't know.