10 04 25 The Jonathon and Kelly Show

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush, how they characterized it, You want to give
health insurance to undocumented immigrants.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
That's a lie, Kelly Nash.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
But what you support does bring back funding for emergency Medicaid,
some of which does pay for undocumented immigrants, asylum seekers
and people with temporary protected status of kids so they're
non citizens.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Jonathan and Kelly Show, that's a lie. The keem Jeffries
done told you that was a lie. Well, we'll get
into lies and half truths coming up here in segment four.
That should pretty much fill out the show. But we
have other things to talk about today on the Jonathan
to Kelly Show. Hello, Kelly Nash.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
We have our show recordings on Friday morning, so we
don't know what the Senate did on Friday. We don't
know what happened with Diddy sentencing. We don't know any
of these things.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
M get CNN, I'm sure is covering both bases and
we're waiting on maybe the information will pop up while
we're recording on this Friday morning. Thank you for being here.
Game Cup fans get the day off. Clemson fans are
getting ready for their kickoff coming up here in just
a few minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
And I think this is historic in the sense that
I don't believe we've ever had a coach who's won
multiple Super Bowls coach against a coach who's won multiple national.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Champions You know, that is a great historical note in
the sports writer's books.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
I don't know that that's true. I think there might
have been one, but I can't think.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Of any I can't think of it all right now.
Later this morning, in this program, we're going to talk
about an increased presence of ice initiatives. That sounds frightening, Kelly.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Does it or does it sound like we're getting better?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
We also had a protest that poured out into the
streets in front of the state House this week. We
actually had a pretty good crowd. This one actually did
have a large crowd.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Well, we did bus a bunch of them in, and
when you open it up for both sides of the debate,
then you'll get a better crowd.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
So I did see the governor from a distance about
a week ago, and I wanted to ask him, could
we get some bus parking over there at the state
House for these protests so they don't have to walk
so far?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Oh, make it a little easier.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, I thought it'd be easier. But we begin with
a conversation we had earlier in the week. This is
on Monday, where we had an opportunity to speak with
current US Congressman also running for governor of the state
of South Carolina, Ralph Norman.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Good morning, glad to be with you.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
How do you see this playing out now that the
House has done this job, but the Senate's hanging in
the balance.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Here's what your listeners need to know. They're asking for
a three and and a half new spending and basically
forty three days between now and November twenty first, a
tree and a half in new spending for illegals to
get paychecks, to get for those who get transgender surgeries.
It is completely ludicrous of what they're asking, but it's

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typical of the Democrat Party today, which has lost its
way and is why seventy seventyllion people rejected them and
they're going to reject them again because of this insanity.
What they're doing is trying to put the blame on
the Republicans for shutting the government down, and it's just
not true. It'll be the Democrats.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, it's ironic that every single Republican is voted to
keep the government open, and yet it's going to be
the position one of the Democrats that it's the Republican's
fault that the government shuts down. Again, every one of
you voted to keep it open, but it's your fault
that it's closing. That's very ironic. You had a big
press conference this week basically addressing the violence in Charlotte. Now,

(03:14):
you don't represent Charlotte, but you do have a lot
of constituents from your district that commute into Charlotte. What
would you like to see changed in Charlotte in or
North Carolina policies.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Well, what we had was heart wrenching testimony from a
father who'd lost a daughter who was killed, and so
I'm just now, we got to change the way we
elect judges. In South Carolina the only two states that
allow politicians, many of which are trial lawyers, to elect
the very judges that they appeared before. How is that
not a conflict of interest. We've got to change that,

(03:44):
and we got to have held in judges accountable. There
ought to be a recision where you can vote them
out of office if they make decisions like we saw
in Charlotte, North Carolina, where criminals one had thirty nine
prior convictions Ukrainian girl they had fourteen. I think consenti's
cut loose by Roague judges that I'm going to put
on my website the names of the judges and why

(04:06):
they cut them loose. We've got a lot of work
to do in South Carolina.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, and the aftermath of the tragedy of the death
of Logan Federico and her dad is on a tirade.
And I believe that he will, in fact, as he says,
be their worst nightmare. He's going to be in their
face constantly. We have talked with Sheriff Leon Lott here
in Richland County and he said, and some other reports
are showing the same thing nationwide, if he could only

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lock up ten percent of the criminals that continue to
commit these crimes in our community, he says, crime would
go down by seventy five percent.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
I get this. When I came to the courthouse in Charlotte,
there were some protesters outside who we had signs up
help for the mentally ill, different signs to that effect.
Where was the help for the victims? The little girl
who died begging for our lives in Columbia, or the
Ukrainian girl whose only mistake was to border train and

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sit in front of a madman who had been cut
loose fourteen prior times. Who've got to bring attention to it?
And as sad as it was here in the testimony
of both one grandmother and one parent that Steve was
very emotional and he should have been. It was his
daughter to hear the Democrats on the panel do they
started fighting statistics on the reduction in crime in Meckleburg County.

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Where was their voice to call out the mayor who
waited two weeks because she had an election where she
was on the candidate for mayor she withheld evidence. Where
was their voice to call her out? As well as
the judges who turned these maniacs. Letus, it's got a change.
We got to bring light to it and bring the
public awareness to it.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
We're talking with Congressman Ralph Norman, and you're going to
have to defend yourself again. Congressman, Apparently you are a
white supremacist. You hate black people because you have a plan,
a desire to redraw the congressional districts as the headline
and the host and courier said Congressman Norman wants to
eliminate South Carolina's only Democrat district, eliminating our only black congressman.

(06:09):
Why are you targeting James Clyburn so aggressively?

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Not targeting James clyb that's the myth, know those on
the other side. This isn't a black a white issue.
District six has been represented by Jim clibn for thirty
one years. I like Jim, I'm a friends of Jim.
But when you look at the boundary lines of District six,
you've either got to be a land surveyor to figure
out where do you go to vote, or a mystic

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in a psychic to follow the lines. It's fourteen counties,
six of which they represent the entire counties. But get this,
eight they divide the counties, Charleston being.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
One of them.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
And if you want to do the right thing, and again,
this isn't black or white, Jim Clyburton may be able
to win it regardless of of house drawn. But there's
no rhyme or reason for waiting ten years before we
right or wrong and let the people vote on who
they want in office. And we've got a super majority
of so called Republicans in the state House. So let's

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do what Texas has done, Let's do what California is
trying to do. But bottom line, South Carolina is a
conservative state made of of conservative people, and of the
seventh congressman, there's only one who is basically would not
vote for Donald Trump if he cured Alzheimer's and cancer.
At the same time, that's wrong.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
As you travel our state, all of us travel under
overpasses at like sixty five miles an hour. But if
we did what you did, and I saw a photo
of you doing it, actually stopping and looking underneath those bridges.
We have so many bridges in this state that by
our own South Carolina Department Transportation have redd deficient or worse.
As a governor, you're claiming that we're going to be

(07:46):
able to finally get this handle before we see people
being killed as bridges collapse.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Absolutely, you know, the core functions of government go down
to three things. Infrastructure, education, safety. That's the part is
in politician have neglected something that we all have in common.
There are only two things all of us have in common.
We breed the same air, and we travel the same
roads in many cases, and to let the roads go

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thirty forty fifty years. You've got over a thousand bridges
that are deficient. You've got citations being issued for truck
that the bridges will no longer carry the weight. That's
what our school buses travel every day. What about the
children that cross these bridges. I'm holding another press conference
in about a week that's going to highlight the citations

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are unwarranted and letting these bridges go the way they
have for the length of time that they have is
unacceptable in the politicians of the blame. We're going to
change that. When I'm governor of South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
We're talking with the current congressman from our great state
of South Carolina. But perhaps you can comment on politicians
in other states like the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson,
or the Maryland governor Wes Moore, or the California governor
Gavin Newsom, or the governor of Oregon or JB. Pritzker,
and the list goes on and on about Democrats who

(09:04):
continue to make their argument that ice just the mere
presence of ice and or federal troops coming in to
protect ice facilities that is the problem. It is not
the people throwing the bricks in the molotov cocktails. That
when Donald Trump insists on defending these facilities, that that
is inflaming the situation. I know you wrote recently wrote

(09:28):
an op ed piece regarding this.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
I did because these and I think it is the
small minority of people who are protested our national guards
who are putting their lives on the line, ICE agents
who are putting their lives on the line to go
in and take out criminals. Let them keep screaming about
house not fair, as unpatriotic to take out criminals in
this country. And again, it's a core function of government.

(09:53):
I thank god Donald Trump has ignoring them and he's
moving forward. Yeah. I saw an interview with some businesses
who say they're so fortunate to have a president like
Trump who is doing the right thing and protecting them
when their own state, when their own governors were not protected.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I know that you've probably had a lot of conversations
from constituents who are echoing the same thing I'm about
to ask you now, but what are we going to
do to make sure that we have the energy that
we need in South Carolina?

Speaker 5 (10:19):
We're nine billion with a b in debt because of
the failed VC Summer nine billion. The rate payers should
not have to pay that. We need to come up
with some solution, and I've got an expert coming down
that I'll be on site to see how we can
come up with a solution that benefits the people of
South Carolina. But i will say this on the good side,

(10:41):
South Carolina people are wanting to come here. They're fleeing
the New York's with the socialist Mondamis, they're fleeing California,
Oregon in other states. But we've got to be ready
for it, and we've got to be ready to combat
if they bring their politics with them.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
It seems as if Henry McMaster believes that we do
have an opportunity to have the VC Summer project saved
and paid for by outside sources. Is that not your understanding.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
We've got to have a company, it's got the capitol,
and it's got the wherewithal to somehow do with the
nine billion in debt. But I'll tell you this, to
put the rate payers at risk by having to pay
for a blunder of politicians, we can't do it. We've
got some people who are going to take a look
at it objectively, with no end goal in mind other
than making sure South Carolina is on the forefront of

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producing power to the great industries that want to come here.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
You know, I did edit but only slightly, that interview
with Congressman and gubernatorial candidate Ralph Norman. And as always,
we post up our full interviews all the time with
other commentary Monday through Thursday on our podcast.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yes, the Rash Thought Podcast is all over the iHeartRadio app.
Just get the free down download on the iHeart Radio
app and then get your free download of us the
rash Thought Podcast.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
And we found the voice of truth this week. It's
the guy with the bullhorn. We'll talk about that next.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
The Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
Jonathan Rush, the original thing they did with this negotiation
was a one point five trillion dollars spending package, hundreds
of billions of dollars to illegal aliens for their healthcare
while Americans are struggling to pay their healthcare bills.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Kelly Nash.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
And now they come in here, it's saying that if
you don't give us everything that we want, we're going
to shut down the government.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Jonathan and Kelly Show and of course the voice of
VP jd Vance, who in most news articles they point
out his claims appatently untrue. But we can talk more
about that coming up in segment three. Again, we record
this on Friday morning. We were waiting to vote again
this morning on the Senate to see if they're able
to capture any more Democrat votes. But also the p
Diddy trials supposed to have its big announced, but still

(12:44):
any word yet on the Epstein files. We'll get back
to that later.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
I did see an Arizona House member who has not
been sworn in yet, and she made the bold claim
that they were not swearing her in because she had
the deciding signature. Apparently, if they get enough signatures, it's
her belief that they will then have to release the

(13:08):
Epstein files, and she is going to sign that once
she is sworn in. And that's why Mike Johnson has
not sworn her in. Mike let her know publicly what
he'd let her know privately weeks ago, is that if
the government is in a shutdown, that we can't swear
you in, so we're gonna have to wait for them
to open up. But it has nothing to do with
the fear of you forcing the Epstein files release, nor

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would if every person in Congress signed it. It has
nothing to do with anything. So you're just making up
a conspiracy theory, but not surprising that you're an elected
liberal loon.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Did a keeam pop up wearing a sobrero to yell?
That's a lie, all right. So the article in the
paper read state House bill criminalizing abortion in South Carolina
sparks tense day during a hearing over its future. So
we've got a brand new Senate bill. It's three twenty three.
If you want to go look it up and read
it in its entirety, and maybe you read some of

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the reports, because there was a public hearing and the
three senators who are co sponsoring this bill are part
of this Senate subcommittee where persons were able to speak.
We did hear some stuff about what happened inside. More so,
we saw pictures of what was going on outside.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, and there was My wife originally became concerned about
this several weeks ago when there's a guy who calls
himself the Greenville Batman, Greenville Batman and Greenville spider Man,
and they had talked on their TikTok about how they
had paid for several buses to load up libs to
bring them to our state House for this big day,
and so we know of at least two or three

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buses that came from Greenville that were paid for by activists.
I don't know how many people were there total. It
doesn't say it says hundreds, not thousands. So hundreds on
the left, hundreds on the right, because both sides were
allowed to chant and wave their banners, and then several
were allowed into the actual voting area where the senators

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were sitting, although we're not yet this is just a
debate part we're not voting. Several people on the left
were removed after using curse words at the elected officials,
which is not a good look, but you.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Know, they reading their own plotards because a lot of
those had some curse words on them.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah, you know, this is a very hot topic because
I think if you look at what McMaster is saying,
he's comfortable with where we're at as far as the
abortion laws. Now, there's some on the right who wanted
to go further. They want to keep up or I
don't know if it's not a competition, but there's there's

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about fifteen states now that have completely for the most part,
outlawed abortion unless it's to save the life of the mother.
If you've been raped and you get pregnant, you're having
the baby, and they look at ending a pregnancy as
a murder because the baby was the baby's never default.

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In South Carolina, that's not the way we look at
it legally. Right now, you have six weeks to get
the abortion right now, and I can see where both
sides would have a great argument to argue their point.
But what we're seeing now is lies being spread by
the left and it's being like allowed to fester. For example,

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they're saying that if you have a miscarriage under this bill,
you the mother would then go to prison for having
a miscarriage. It seems a little steep, and obviously I
would be shoulder to shoulder with these protesters because their
very sane argument is why would you compound a tragedy.

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She's already lost a child, now you're going to send
her to prison. But that's not what's in the bill.
The bill is that you just pointed out. It is online.
You can read the whole thing for yourself.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
What about the doctor keley, what are the doctors not
able to save the child, as plainly the doctor should
have been able to save the child the situation like that.
But if he's trying to save the baby, then no,
what happens if in a situation where the doctor was
in the delivery room, as something happened when the child
unfortunately was still born, Now certainly somebody's got to go
to prison over No. Yet again, no, that's what the

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blowhard with the bullhorn was telling you.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
And a lot of people believe that. And again that's
how a lot of these movements get started is they
take a position that is so extreme and say that
that is the position of the of our opponents. Our
opponents believe that in this instance, if the if a
woman unfortunately has a miscarriage, she will be penalized with
prison time or a steep fine or something like that.

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That is not Please go read the bills when they
get published online.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Well this also, they say, the legislation as it is
being proposed now, and certainly this is one of the
reasons why they're having the public hearing. And also this
is a Senate subcommittee. This is not in a bill
form for it to be voted on. But just the
word conception that opens the doors to all kinds of
restrictions on fertility treatments and feature of fertilizations and the like.

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Don't you see, Kelly, You're just giving them an opportunity
to camouflage this in such a way that they can
march mothers, doctors, hospital staff. You're all going to prison.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Well, and you know, the press loves to run with this,
and they'll they'll try to find angles. Like I was reading,
I think it's the state newspaper. Maybe it's the posting
courier they're talking about. You know, under this bill, which
again does not the bill that's been proposed by several
Republicans doesn't have an exemption for rape. And so what

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they're talking about here is if you're a minor, you
would need parental consent for an abortion if you were raped.
But then what do you do if you were raped
by your father? I have to ask the rapist for permission.
That's how they're they're part I mean, that's it's so

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now rageous. Of course, if the father had raped the
daughter and that was known, he's going to immediately lose custody.
They're going to assign a parental guardian and that parental
guardian will say yes, yes, you can have the abortion
if you'd like one right now.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
So you're saying, maybe the best source of information is
not Greenville Batman. Was that his name?

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Spider Man? Yeah, he was one of them, the blowharber
with the bullhorn.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
What about the spider man. Spider Man come out with
a comment as well.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
I distrust most people in costume.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Not really a credible way to get your message across. Look,
this is the beginning of the process. We went through
this before, even with a six week abortion band. But
look how many times that not only went to public hearings,
but it also went to the legislation, it passed, it
went to the courts, it came back. I mean, this
is going to be I guess if we're going to
continue this conversation, which will end up coming down to
Shane Massey and the leaders in the House and the Senate,

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whether they're actually going to take this bill up, which
is doubtful at this point given the current leadership's position
in the conversations we've had thus far, and the governor
himself is saying we're comfortable where we are right now. Now,
of course, we do have a governor race coming up,
so that could change here within the next year.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Well it it will change, And that'll be a great
question for any one of the candidates if you ask him,
how would you feel about a total abortion band moving
forward except to save the life of a mother? And
I think a lot of people use abortion as a
litmus test.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
That is a valley question and certainly will be in
the great debate as we are. Yet, do we have
officially a Democrat candidate? I already know what his answer is.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
We have several, but nobody knows their names.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Okay, gouts.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
We had the drunk guy who threatened to kick Allen
Wilson's teeth.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
In That's why I can't wait to hear him comment
on this. Hey, we got swap talk coming up in
just a few minutes. And also there's we are already
expanding ice in the state of South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
In segment four, Jonathan and Kelly show Jonathan.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
Remember what happened in March Chuck Shimmer went out and
said it would be so dangerous to the government down.
Remember we have him on tape his entire career. He's
been saying that, Kelly Nash. Now he has suddenly shifted gears.
Why he's afraid of AOC. He thinks he's going to
get challenged in the next election, so he has to
fight Trump, even if it means throwing the American people
under the bus.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Jonathan and Kelly show speaker Johnson talking about the now
famous Schumer shutdown, even though he hasn't recognized it as such.
I guess the attack of AOC on the streets of
New York has led him to grasp on his power.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
You can't spell shut down without Schumer. But I'm wondering,
you know, dude, is it really that important to Chuck Schumer?
Because if you look at Chuck Schumer's electoral history, he
won most of his elections about seventy percent of the vote.
His last election he won only fifty six percent of
the vote. That's his worst election so far. Chuck Schumer

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will be seventy eight when he's up for reelection. Is
Chuck Schumer really thinking of running for the Senate again
for a six year term at age seventy eight? I
would think if I was Chuck Schumer, the writing's been
on the wall for a while. Brother, now's the time
to bow out and do something with some cajonies, tell
them where, you know what, the Democrat Party's going off

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the rails. I'm gonna save us, you know.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
I think he's got a little Southern pride streak in him.
I think it's the pride for Chuck Schumer wants to
win one more six year term and then make that
like a six year Grandigos stand where he praises himself.
And though AOC is obviously getting a lot of support. Now,
I'm wondering how many times since she did offer it,
did Mike Johnson or Senator Thune go to her office

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to negotiate directly with her to end this government shutdown.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
I don't know, she's crazy. You know, it's funny. There's
a bit out there right now where some guy is
going around Central Park and he's talking to people and
he's presenting himself as a Mom Donnie supporter, and so
a lot of people are coming over to talk to him. Yes,
and he was like, I'd like for you to sign
our petition to make sure that Mam Donnie wins. And

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they're like, well, fantastic, and he goes, so, yeah, we've
put out some of his top policies here and I'll
just read them off to you and they start reading
them off and they're like, that's not in there, and
he's like, no, no, that's the number one thing on
the number one thing on the on the website says
we will tax white people at a higher rate.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
It's part of the platform.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
That's the platform. And and also we will get rid
of the bill, the whole the whole thing about freedom
of rights and the freedom of the press and all
of that that we are going to suspend in New York.
And we're going to authitarian Yeah, because we're gonna go
with the We're gonna go with the social form, the
socialist manifesto, that's what we're going with. And they're like, no,

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it's not. And he's showing it to him on the
website and he's like, but you said you've voted for
him in the primary. You didn't know that these were
his policies. Yeah, it's crazy what's happening in New York.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Now. We had a big week this week on several
different things other than the shutdown, which is pretty much
a still conversation now as we go through the half
truths about who's illegal, who's not illegal, what's a temporary
status mean, if you're a refugee or you actually not, No,
you're not, as determined unfortunately by the Biden administration, who
continually changed the definitions of words as we ushered in

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everybody seemingly from across not only Central America, but from
around the world, across our southern border. You got to
go through the half troops to try to filter through
the information. Particularly as I continue to watch for you
SEENN and MSNBC, I was very excited to hear our
Secretary of War speak to our admirals, generals and high

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ranking who flew in at an unbelievably expense in and
outrage to most Americans, well, not the Americans, just the
ones with a talk show. You'd spend all that money
bringing all these people together to speak to them the
way that you did, you TV host.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Oh yeah, we got a former Fox News Morning guy
sitting here running his mouth at admirals and generals and
acting like he knows more than they do. And oh,
that's actually the job. So the job is to talk
to the generals and admirals and get them in shape
and make sure that everybody understands what page we're on
and set the tone for where we're moving, and I
think Pete did a good job of explaining. We want

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the first off, the standards will be the standards. We're
not changing the standards for anybody. And secondly, we want
an attitude of we are a killing machine.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
The warrior ethos is now coming back. And they didn't
have an opportunity you, or if they did, I'm sure
they wouldn't have answered. But the admirals and the generals
who are a bipartisan in their position, certainly while they're
holding their office. But we did have retired military personnel
come on MSNBC and CNN to tell you exactly what
an insult it was for Pete Headset to speak to

(25:35):
these war heroes the way that he did well.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
And they don't think very much of Donald Trump either,
and Donald Trump they didn't get the joke when Donald
Trump said I'm going over there and if I talk
to any of them and I don't like them, I'll
fire him on the spot. They thought that was serious.
But this is serious. But Donald Trump just posted at
about eleven o'clock this morning, this is again Friday morning.
Hamas has been a ruthless and violent threat for many

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years in the Middle East, they have killed and made
lives on variable miserable, culminating on the October seventh massacre.
I'm not going to go ahead and read all of it.
I'm going to just get it down to the near
the very end of it. This deal spares the lives
of all remaining Hamas fighters. The details of the document
are now known to the world, and it is a
great one for everyone. We will have peace in the

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Middle East. One way or another. The violence and bloodshed
will stop. And then he puts in all caps, release
all of the hostages, all of them, including the bodies
of those that are dead now. And this must happen
before Sunday night, six pm DC time. If it does not,
this is your last chance. All hell like you have

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never seen before will break out against Hamas again. There
will be peace in the Middle East, one way or another.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump.
So it's gonna be a very busy weekend. We got
the shutdown, and we got all hell breaking loose in Hamas.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
You got the MAGA crowd, You got the Maha crowd.
This is the MAFO experience. MFO, the mess around and
find out crowd, Iranians learned this the hard way. We
gave you a timeline.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Sometimes the timeline is not even the timeline. That's what
they found out. They didn't get as much time he was.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Within the timeline. But this one is specific.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
He says. An agreement must be reached with Hamas by
Sunday evening at six pm DC time. Every country has
signed on. This is the last chance agreement, and if
it's not reached, all hell like no one has ever
seen before will break out against Tomas. There will be
peace in the Middle East, one way or another. Thank
you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump.

(27:40):
And I'm sure the left right now because he posted
that ten minutes ago. Right now they are freaking out.
MSNBC doesn't even have that news yet. When they get it,
they're going to be talking about all this guy just
wants to start World War three and all that.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, they've already got an interview going on here about
the shutdown where we're already talking about. President Trump is
initiating the Project twenty twenty five initiatives he claimed he
knew nothing about while he was running for president. So
wait a minute, we're going to go to breaking News. No,
that's p Diddy. I know that while they give you
the information that they're rehashing with a half truth, they're

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always making sure they get the latest email. But the
talking points in the Democrat Party apparently that hasn't been
delivered yet, but it'll be out later today.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah, I mean, this is this is big. I mean again,
Donald Trump is right if you could achieve peace in
the Middle East one way or another, what they've done.
You know, when you look at the surrounding areas and
the fact that they've gotten every country, Turk, Jordan, Katar, Egypt,
they're all signed in on this peace agreement, so they're

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all there. The only ones who've been holding out are
Hamas and the Palestinians. For those of you who keep
claiming this is a genocide, why would they not want
to stop the genocide? And you know, as I think
is a pretty good point that if if it was
a genocide, it would have ended on October ninth, it
would have been about forty eight hours. Israel would have
just totally blown them off the map if they wanted to.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Well, I know there's still a great divide in Israel
because everybody wants to be able to get there. Particularly
if you're a family member and you know that your
hostage or your family member being held hostage is still alive.
That's an unbelievable, untenable position to try to live in.
And I get it. But you know, when you look
at the fact that BB is doing what he said, well,
he's certainly been patient with it, as you pointed out,

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But when you look at the history, particularly with the
Palestinians and the Israel conflict, BB has already said this
will end. So I'm glad to see that we're going
to put them in a position finally now where you
have you're going to have to come to the table
at a particular time because you've been jerking our chains
around here with your promises and then half delivery of
your promises in order to continue what we know to

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be is nothing but continuation of ripping off the American
taxpayer through the UN with the food supplies that do
nothing but continue to support the troops that are fighting
against Israel. And it's time for all this mad justs
to come to this Carosel has got to stop sometime.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
And is Donald Trump pledging here that our Department of
War is getting involved because when he says, if we
do not have that agreement signed by six pm DC time,
this is your last chance, all hell like no one
has ever seen before will break out against maas is
he pledging we're going to get involved now.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Well, I'm sure that's what MSNBC is going to tell you.
So we'll waiting to hear exactly how the Democrats want
to position that when they're talking heads, read their talking
points that are going to be emailed over any minute.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Well, if he didn't want to infer that, he could
have said, we're taking the shackles off the Israeli defense forces.
But he didn't say that. He just said, all hell
like no one has ever seen before will break out.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
They're going to be screaming over there is the Party
of Hate, Evil and Satan. Donald Trump described the Democrats
much like a lot of people talk about them, but
he puts it in a tweet and suddenly a little
more pointed the Party of Hate, Evil and Satan. I
don't know if Satan is a register voter. If he is,
I know he's not a Republican. He's certainly not a conservative.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
He didn't get an AI video of like Chuck Schumer,
with Satan Horns on.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
I'm not sure. Now I'm breaking out my calendar over here,
six pm Sunday. At that point, it's going to be
like waiting for the shock and awe all over again
from the George W. Bush administration.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
I may miss Carrie Underwood in Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Didn't it great to have a president stand up and
put his foot down if somebody actually believed that foot
is attached to a boot and that boot's going to
kick your ass.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah he's not. He don't flinch.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Hey, still you hat to come in this program before
we wrap it up on a Saturday. Yet another overreach
by the Trump administration with ice coming to IRA zip codes.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Hang on the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 6 (31:51):
Jonathan Rush, do you think your party can take a shutdown?

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Kelly Nash?

Speaker 7 (31:56):
I think the people want to see a stand up
to Trump, and that's one way show will take you
bon it, not just to accept him bully.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
As Kelly Show, see if the bully continues to get
his way. And again we record this on Friday. The
time has been set for one thirty for the Senate vote.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Well that's what John Thune is hoping. You know, he's
trying to get wrangling cats. I heard it's going to
be eleven thirty. Now it's one thirty later. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
The senators want to get out of town. If they
get through this vote. They know they can have Saturday
and Sunday off. They might be there earlier.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Well, Thune pretty much has already said he expects this
thing to fail miserably. And then he said, we won't
be having another vote till Monday because I want them
to take the weekend and think about what you've done.
And you know, it's interesting. MSNBC keeps running these stories
about how heartbreaking this whole government shutdown is to families
in America. I'm surprised that the Democrat Party is allowing

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them to run that. They should be running stories you
would think about how Donald Trump is trying to screw
Americans out of healthcare, the bully exactly. But that's not
what they're running. They're running the shower shutdown is killing Americans.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
We record this on Friday morning. It's almost eleven o'clock.
We still don't have the ditty ruling yet either. CNN
has scrambled. I'm sure all I'm watching MSBC and CNN
make sure I get their take first.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Do you think our audience is also like, oh my gosh,
I can't wait to hear.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
What I want CNN, So you don't have to. That's
the way it works. This week we had a press
conference with Lindsay Graham. Also Henry Mtmaster was there with
about ten or more sheriffs all across the state of
South Carolina, and they're talking about what is being used
now in a lot of agencies, including SLED. It's called
the two eighty seven program. Now, I don't know when

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the federal government under this program allows local law enforcement
to act as ice agents. Is that when they hand
out the face mask? Is that the way that works?

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Well, it says, you know, this program allows local law
enforcement to become deputized in order to serve as in
some capacity as an ice agent. And I'm sure they'll
give them the face mask if they want. But what
Lindsay Graham is proposing is I think a fantastic idea.
He says, there's literally billions and billions of dollars not

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being spent by the federal government that they want to
use to incentivize states to do exactly what South Carolina's doing.
We've got thirty agencies right now in South Carolina that
are deputizing their agents in order to help ICE, and
so why not.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
We don't have all forty six. But we're still reading
daily seemilely about shareffus being arrested all the time, including
Sheriff Right and Spartanburg who got busted for buying cigarettes
and other personal items including electronics with his card. So
maybe he's not fully in on enforcing the law.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Well, but if you got the thirty agencies doing it,
this would bring in. If Lindsey Graham is able to
work a deal with Donald Trump to make this available
to states that are going along with ICE, he's talking
about hundreds of millions of dollars could be coming into
South Carolina. Henry McMaster is excited about it, specifically because
we have four thousand and job openings right now in

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South Carolina for law enforcement officials. We are underfunded. When
it comes to that, we can't really compete with North
Carolina a lot of I was just talking to a
couple of our state troopers the other day who are
quitting to go to North Carolina because they make a
lot more money there.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, and he pointed out or Lindsay Graham. I they
pointed out in the press conference. You know, we read
about all of these huge incentives they were offering for
persons to come back into law enforcement, in particular with
several different federal agencies, including ICE, so that we can
help get the situation under control. So it would make
common sense. You also offer an incentive for our local
communities to take advantage of this. And since they are

(35:38):
in fact on the street in their communities, and we
know from Kamalaw I believe who helped us understand the
community is the community, so that's where they would have
That's where they would have more of an understanding of
the people living in the community since they are daily
patrolling for law enforcement in general. Now, if they happen
to have the opportunity or they know of the persons

(36:00):
who are here illegally, certainly those criminals that are here illegally,
it would give them the authorization under this program to
act with the authority of an ICE agent while doing
their regular duties.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
And another angle that Lindsey Graham brought up, which I
think is very powerful. I didn't even know about this
was that one of the main ways we lose law
enforcement officials is because we have an underfunded officer retirement fund,
and in a budget cutting move, what they did was
after twenty five years, you're forced to take a minimum

(36:33):
of a year off before you can return. That will
help save money in the underfunded retirement fund. But what
happens is when they take that year off, many of
them say, well, you know, let me look for another job,
and then they never come back. So you're losing people
that way as well.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, I mean police officers that we know we've talked
to before that went to work for security agencies or
intel agencies, are the like. We need to find a
way to retain that, much like we do with school
teachers them. We do have a lot of communities reading
more and more like today. I think I read about
what was it Lake City. They're having such a financial
woe and running their city. I'm sure the law enforcement's

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a major expense for them. This would give them an
influx in cash through the county maybe into the city
to help them with their budgetary problems.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
That's a great idea, Lindsey Graham, You've stumbled onto something fantastic,
I think, And because you have that in with Donald Trump.
I think you can get it for South Carolina and
for other states, but of course that doesn't come without
some sort of pushback. And the ACLU says this is
quote a disaster for civil liberties and a fiscal burden
on the local governments. I don't know if they understand
what a fiscal burden means. If the money's coming from

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somebody else, it's not a fiscal burden on us.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
I do understand, as they've been taught and told and
continually described ICE agents as mask men in unmarked vehicles,
stopping and arresting persons like Kelly Nash right off the
street and hauling them off and sending them to El Salvador.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Well, the that like that. When they say they disappear them.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
They were disappeared.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah, they disappeared them.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Now I'm hoping that this initiative will in fact catch on.
We're with thirty agencies you mentioned, we got forty six counties,
and a lot of them obviously are not in yet,
so hopefully this will be an incentive for them to
join the effort. Now, we do not have the best
game cut coverage today because Christopher Tom this is the
only Saturday he gets off, and I bet his wife
has given him a things to do list that's a
mile long.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yeah, and you know, hopefully we win the bye week,
unlike Clemson losing their bye week last week.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Oh. You know, when we get bad, we get Also
with Lindsey Graham, we got to mention the jokester. He's
making more jokes about Trump running for president in twenty
twenty eight. We can get back to that.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Okay, all right, Jonathan M.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Kelly show. That is our broadcast. Thank you for being
here with us. I'll show myself out until we meet again, Curry.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
And that's the way it is.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
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