10 07 25 Dems say MAGA is burning down SC!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Jonathan and Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Jonathan Rush the big point here, Yes, healthcare is important,
but this is also an effort of Democrats to stop
the autocratic takeover of this country.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Kelly Nash crucial part.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Of what we're asking for his changes to the law
to rain him in so that he stops trashing the constitution.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Kelly Show, w DOOC.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I wonder if Adam that was Adam Smith. He's a
House member Democrat. I wonder if he got a hotline
phone call after that interview. It's about healthcare.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Remember, it's always about healthcare.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's about healthcare. But then you look at the streets
at Chicago. I don't know, maybe it's playing well. Portland's
fighting back. We got this authoritarian ruler who's pushing in
his federal troops.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Well, I mean, this is a cautionary tale if you
look at like the comments of Marco Rubio on Sunday.
He basically explained that the reason the Israelis are not
getting what they want is because Hamas won the pr battle.
Hamas made an argument that there was a genocide happening

(01:12):
and the Israelis did not do a good enough job
of counteracting that and inside the United States, we now
have a majority of Americans feel like Israel's gone too far.
That is based only on pr it has nothing to
do with the reality. So what we have in the
United States right now is the Democrats learning from Hamas.

(01:33):
I really I'm not saying this to be shocking or
anything like that. I truly believe that the Democrats, especially
Brandon Johnson in Chicago, they want blood. But they don't
want Republicans blood. They want liberal blood. They want somebody
to get shot and then they will drag that carcass
through the streets and say, look what they've done to

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my baby, just like they did with Hamas. Hamas drags
out the people and look what they've done to our kids,
and they put them on camera, and that's what they want.
So they're they're begging you. That's why he made that
declaration yesterday. This is an ice free zone, which is
one of the most unconstitutional statements ever uttered into a microphone.
You cannot impede federal law, which is what they're doing

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actively in several But we should have we should have
enacted the fourteenth Amendment on like some of these mayors
back in whatever the hell year it was two thousand
and nine or whenever they started calling themselves sanctuary cities.
That's in violation of federal law. You can't do that,
and the fourteenth Amendment says, and you are banned from
ever holding office locally or federally ever again. Once you've

(02:37):
sworn an oath to the Constitution and you didn't uphold it.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
You know, you're right that the propaganda that was put
forth by Hamas was a continuation, actually a continuation what
we've seen them do prior. But it certainly did take
a lot of It got a lot of traction real quick,
mainly because of our media. And I went back and
look because I remembered reading or hearing that Hamas had
actually hired a CNN producer to help them produce because

(03:04):
they were videos that were popping up where the same
victims were shown in different scenarios after different bombings, and
all of that probably was not true. But I did
find out that CNN, the guy who worked for CNN
was not a producer for CNN hired by Homas, and

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CNN did fire a couple of people who were stringers
is what they call them inside the news business, who
have been covering some of the other previous dust ups,
including Hamas and the like, so that it wasn't a
CNN producer, but it damn sure comes off like it,
because that is a fully produced, nearly Hollywood production of

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some of the news that we had seen picked up
and then in the US in particular repeated without question
and then continue to be perpetrated upon the American people
through ABCNBCCBS, CNN and the like. So it didn't take
much to be able to get the propaganda spread form wide,
particularly in the advent of social media.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, and it really is all about I mean, everybody's
spreading propaganda. I mean, I don't want to make it
seem as if it's only the Democrats. The Republicans spread
propaganda as well. They're trying to put their narrative in
the best possible light. Sometimes they exaggerate the truth. Obviously,
the Left exaggerates the truth or just flat out lies
about facts. That happens all the time. The question is

(04:29):
who wins the hearts and minds of the general population.
The general population really decides this. The people in the
MAGA camps and the AOC camps and all that they've
already decided. So they're not up for discussion. But the
vast majority of Americans, of the roughly two hundred million

(04:50):
Americans who actively participate in politics, there's probably one hundred
and forty million of them that are still up for grabs.
How do you get to them? How do you influence
them to see things your way? Right now, the Democrats
are doing a great job.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
The example of the judge's house that exploded on Edistoe
Island is a perfect example of this, because I immediately started
seeing people here in South Carolina who are putting that
video up, and they were saying the same things that
some of the national Democrats were saying. Now, whether they
took their que off of that or not or that
already switched their mindsets to such a degree that this

(05:27):
is what they immediately thought and came to the conclusion,
and this has to be the answer. This judge was
targeted because of this, this and this, and YadA YadA,
And they were just regular South Carolinians who are on
my Facebook page. Usually I just snooze those people for
about thirty days. Yesterday, for the first time ever, I
am followed about three people because I'm like, there's nothing
I ever want to see from you on my timeline again.

(05:50):
But as you have those influx of social media reposts
and then people who are putting their endorsement with their
name behind it, and you see their friends come in
and chime in behind them, and most of them are
don't agree with them. Maybe somebody gives a little bit
of a pushback, but not much. They do it in
a genteel way. But you're right, it's the people that
they reach through their social media or in the news

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or whatever that ends up in the polling. And the
polling is the most important thing. How does the needle
move in the polling across America in order for you
to actually be able to exact the end result that
you're looking for.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
And the basic backstory on this is you've got to
judge here in South Carolina who ruled against Trump and
the administration. Basically, what the administration is asking for is
they want a national database of US voters. And so
they're going to each state and saying, can you provide
us with your voter data information so that we can
have this national database in order to protect elections moving forward.

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And in South Carolina we had some activists, some Democrats
who didn't want to comply with They thought that it
was sensitive information, which I find ironic by the way,
that you're worried about the federal government having my social
Security number when they're the ones who gave it to me.
It's their social Security number. I'm just using it right now.
But anyway, they didn't want to share it, and there

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was a move to block that, and she ruled against
the Trump administration. That ruling, by the way, only was
upheld for about four days before it got to the
South Carolina Supreme Court, who unanimously overruled her judgment. But
then here we are, about eight weeks after she's made
that judgment and her house blows up and it's a
horrific video. I mean, I feel bad for the family.

(07:38):
Thank god they weren't killed. Would have been very easy
to understand if people had died in that There were
some people seriously injured. I think their pets were lost possibly.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
In that fire, and Thanky, the grandkids were not.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah, her husband, who is a former state senator, he
broke his hip and his ankle or something like that
trying to jump out of the window. Anyway, they immediately
moved to this is maga, This is the far right extremists.
And there's a guy named Dan Goldman, He's a New
York Representative house member. He gets on X and he
starts talking about Donald Trump and Steven Miller have doxed

(08:14):
this judge. How do they do that? Did Donald Trump
give out her home address? Did Steven Miller give out?
And he didn't dox anybody. Secondly, today someone committed arson
on that judge's home, severely injuring her husband and son.
Will Trump speak out against the extreme right that did this, that.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Did this, that did this? Was that what Mark Keel said?
Who's the head of SLED, who's investigating it? No? Do
we have the arson report from inside the South Carolina
Law Enforcement Division? No? Do we have any other information
other than SLED said that we're investigating it. No.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
I like Steven Miller's response, while your post is libelous madness.
We will keep focused on delivering public safety and fight
domestic terror. And you know that's the thing. If if
a MAGA person did blow up this house, if that
was to be revealed in a week or something like that,
there some crazed you know, wearing a MAGA T shirt
somehow got over the gates somehow exploded a house without

(09:15):
being captured on any of the videos. All that, I
think uniformly the president on down would condemn that act. Sure,
they would call for an immediate ceasing of that. When
when you see on the left they're not condemning most
of these things. They don't, they don't, they don't. They say,
this is what happens when Trump gets crazy, and it

(09:35):
forces people to behave this way.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
And Dan Goldman going on X is exactly how you
see his face so often on CNN and MSNBC, because
he's willing to go out there and say these kind
of things with absolutely no credibility behind his statement, and
he will, in fact throughout libelous craziness and on X
and it gets him what he wants, which is more

(09:57):
face time on cable to tip television news.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
But it also gets I think, I hate to say it,
I really believe that the left wants a civil war.
They want it, they're.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Not, Oh, what was the mayor of Chicago has the
most inflammatory statement of the day yesterday, I think, which
is pretty tough to pick, is that the far right
wants a re what was it? What was his word?
Aw a civil war?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Redo?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
He wants. Yeah, we want a rematch. We want to
rematch of the Civil War. That is one of the
most inflammatory comments I've heard anybody in public office say
in a long time.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
But it's it's getting pretty obvious that that's what they're
looking for. So basically, the arguments that you see the
left using right now, and whether it's the Portland mayor
the Seattle mayor Gavin Newsom, whomever, they're all making a
similar arguments to the same ones that were being used
quite honestly here in South Carolina around eighteen fifties, and

(10:57):
that the states do not have to comply with federal
overreach in the federal government is saying if you look
at the fourteenth, fifteenth, and sixteenth Amendment, those worthy amendments
put in they were called the Civil War Amendments. It
was it was up for debate in eighteen fifty that
was ended in the eighteen sixties. It's over. It's a wrap.

(11:20):
When the federal government makes a law, that is the law,
and you don't have to comply with it. That's the
other thing. You can't force local authorities to comply, meaning
help you enforce the federal law. You can't do it.
I wish you could, but you can't. So they're right.
If Chicago police doesn't want to help, or Portland don't

(11:40):
want to answer for the federal authorities, that's fine, but
you can't stop us from coming in and defending our agents,
defending our territory. And they're pushing this to the point
where they're going to get some blood, and once they
get the blood, then they're going to really get it
ratcheted up. And you know, we saw it, you know,
years ago in the protest when the National Guard shot

(12:02):
that girl at the college and that set off all
these kinds of riots. They want the riots.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I did see a video last night on Rachel Maddow.
I can't wait to get the full story on this,
but it was shown and I was watching on a
smartphone device at the time, so I didn't have a
really great video shot of it, but I could see
what she was describing. She described it as ice agents
shooting tear gas or the like, some type of chemical

(12:32):
spray into the face of She said, was I believe
an episcopal priest and he was simply standing there across
the street with his hands open and prayer up. And
he's standing there, He's not part of the protest. He's
just standing there in the street corner when an ICE
agent walk up and sprayed him in the face. And

(12:54):
then they show another priest or pastor of another church
who was a hacked by ICE and this one the
same way. They sprayed them mace or something whatever it
was that they were firing. But I'm thinking to myself,
I can't wait to find out the real story on this,
because I know what you're telling me is not exactly true.
There could be a thread of truth to it. I

(13:15):
don't know what the priest was saying. I don't even
know if it was a priest. But in fact, they
don't want anyone to shoot an ICE agent. They really
want to debate the ICE agents into shooting someone else.
And you're right, as Kelly described, they just want to
be able to parade that person through the streets because

(13:36):
that makes for great video. As they know from Hamas
and other terrorist organizations, and how they used that propaganda
and that visual to change the hearts and minds of
the American public, not the far right of the far left,
but the ones in the middle where you see the
needle being moved in the pole league.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, because That's one of those things where if you
just casually follow the news, and the news shows you
a story of a priest who was praying was shot
and killed by ice, and you got some politician who
you might trust somewhat. You know, you see Gavin Newsom,
he looks honorable, he looks like a trustworthy fella, and

(14:14):
he's like, don't tell me that the Trump administration is
not using authoritarian moves right now. They're murdering people in
the streets, civilians in the streets, and a lot of
people will be touched by that. You know, the reality
of it, though, is you have like they arrested a
gang member yesterday. This guy put out a snapchat message

(14:37):
to other gang members that thankfully Homely and Security got
ahold of. It was a two thousand dollars offer for information,
like the home address of somebody named Gregory Bavino, commander
at large with the US Border Patrol. You get me
his home address, that's worth two thousand dollars. If you
get me proof that you killed him, it's ten thousand dollars.

(14:57):
Now they have thankfully arrested that guy. His name is
Espanizo Martinez. He's now in custody. But that's one that
they caught. How many others are out there? And you
wonder why these ICE agents are wearing masks, because when
people find out where they live, the radical left will
kill them. They will come for their children. I was

(15:19):
listening to a podcast the other day. I couldn't believe
this woman who was representing the left. They thought they
had her boxed in when they said, but what about
their children? And she said it sucks that children have
parents that are criminals. But if you are the child
of an ICE agent and you get killed because of it,
I have no sympathy.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Wait, are you going to separate the family? You're going
to separate the kids.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
No, we're going to kill the dad and the mom
and the children because they're.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
All Dy was describing that yesterday. I was thinking, I
wonder how many Because I was just looking out the
front door. I was thinking, I wonder how many families
of ICE agents are currently living within a fifteen mile
radius of where I am. We're pretty remote from where
any conflicts would be, necessarily in particular with Portland. But
you know, damn goodwell these families, Much like Homan has said,

(16:03):
I can't live with my family, because I know they're
going to make them a target of some type of
attack on me or assassination or a bombing, or maybe
they'll try to blow up his house, like plainly they
described the Maga blew up the judge's house. But I
wonder how many people are here within x x number
of bowles from me who are part of a refugee
because a family situation because their dad or their mom

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works for ICE. And it wouldn't surprise me to find
out there were more than a couple.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Well, I have no idea on that one. I do
know that crime, if you allow crime in your community,
that's a choice. And I hate to say it to
the citizens of these cities. You have voted for this.
This is something that you chose. The politicians in your
community chose it. When you look at murder rates like
the ones that they have in Chicago, you know, I

(16:52):
mean some people call it like Sharak and all these
other names that they've got for it, because it's crazy.
It's one of them. More there's murderous places on earth.
You chose that that's not by accident. You can go
to just as densely populated cities around the world and
find crime statistics one eighth of the of what happens

(17:13):
in Chicago or what's happening in La or what's happening
in Portland. You chose this. Now, the federal government can't
clean up that mess for you. I know Donald Trump
would love to. But Donald Trump can only fix what's
happening at the federal facilities. But the rest of it,
you voted for it. Stop voting Democrat. I did appreciate
the Chicago I guess they call him superintendent of police.

(17:34):
They don't call him chief of police. A guy named
Larry Snelling yesterday if you saw his comments or heard
his comments, and he was warning people if you're following
any agents of any agency, local police, county police, federal police,
ICE agents, if you're following them, it is right for
them to assume that you mean them harm and if

(17:56):
they respond with deadly force to that, they are within
their So get away from them.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, particularly when you have protesters now to using their
automobiles to ram ICE agents in Portland and Chicago.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
But I mean they're gonna get killed, and that's what
the left. And then you have, you know, the governor
of Illinois, come back out. JB pritzkersaying he's wrong. That's
freedom of speech. I have freedom of speech to ram
My car I have freedom of speech to waive a
weapon at you.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
That's what the mayor in Chicago told you. We will
send CPD to these areas to protect the protesters.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
He said, if you called nine one one, that was
the problem. They didn't call nine one one. They radioed
it in. If they had called nine one one, they
might have got some help.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
So and I was thankful again as we were watching
some of this video rolling from some of these other cities,
as you were talking about thank you Sheriff Leon Lott
and Sheriff Ja Koon. You can get through the whole
list of sheriffs and now even in particularly in Charleston.
Remember after we had that George Floyd dust up with
protesters and it was Antifa looking for ways to organize

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themselves and then try to spread more terror across all states,
Charleston was the only one that was allowed to have
any type of organized protests that ended up damaging property
in the like downtown Charleston. But when you look at
and we even asked Sheriff lot here on this podcast,
did that news make it back to the organizational structure

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of what the Democrats claim is a group that has
no organizational structure. There is no organization called Antifa, just
an idea, just just the idea. Did the idea that
they shouldn't come back. Make it up to the people.
But the big ideas at the head of ANTIPA said, oh, yeah,
we've already heard that message got sent loud and clear,
and they won't be coming back.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
My wife showed me yesterday. I'm trying to see if
it's on their Facebook page as well, but she showed
me on their TikTok page that Richland County Sheriff's Department posted.
It's not on their Facebook page. That's too bad. They
just put it on their TikTok. I guess they made
a video. They took a speech that Leon Lott speech,
but like you know, he dives those little press briefings
or whatever, and they put some like ominous music behind it.

(20:07):
They have him talking and then they have they've cut
it with actual bodycam footage of the police lighting up
a vehicle with the suspect who fired at him, and
Leon Lott is not efing around and he was like,
it's time for these people to realize, if you aim
at a deputy, we're firing at you.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
If you shoot at a deputy.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
We're going to kill you. And then they're talking about that,
and you could hear the guy inside the vehicle when
they're shooting at him, and he's saying, well, I can't
say it on the podcast, but you can say it
on the internet. Oh you know, all the S and
F words are coming out. They probably put I'm guessing
about fifty rounds into that vehicle. And Leon said, hell, yeah,

(20:53):
we shot him. I can't even tell you how many
bullet holes he's got. He got a lot of them.
I don't know how he lived through it, but he's
going to be in the hospital along time. And then
they came out and they said and they had a
bail hearing. He goes, I certainly appreciate the judge today
setting the appropriate bail, which is no bail. His ass
will stay in behind bars and we're going to just
keep putting people behind bars in Richland County. And that's

(21:15):
the message. That is the message. You come to Richland
County and you want to f around, you will find
out you want to fron in Chicago, have at it.
They don't mind.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
My favorite press conference was after the George Floyd protest
when they had the chief of Police and Sheriff Leon
lot of the same press conference and the question was,
we have people who claimed you were using rubber bullets,
Chief of Police, that you're used rubber bullets. Leon had
to get up to lean over to the podium to stay.
We did, and it set back down. But they wanted
to find out from CPD whether they had shot, and

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Leon got up again and said we did. Nobody wanted.
Nobody even asked Leon, we know you did, sir, Yeah,
we want to ask about you.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
We're thankfully you didn't use real bullets.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Right, but you know, as soon as you throw a
bottle water, Sucly says, we don't know what's in that bottle,
could be water. We don't know, we don't ask, we
don't wait and test it, we don't wait and find out.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
We assume the worst, exactly.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
So thank you to our sheriffs in South Carolina for
at least making sure we have law and order. And
I understand that a couple of people, according to a
Facebook page, even in Newbery, from Leigh Foster's post, they
were complaining that he was In fact, oh, it was
the article with leave Sheriff Foster and Lindsey Graham talking

(22:34):
about the local agencies having under the two eighty seven
program the authorization as ICE agents to be able to
pick up an arrest illegal immigrants. And the guys that
the sheriff said, we've got call I've got people call
them my house, upset with me because I would actually
do that. So it's not like we don't have it here.
And we've got plenty of lenient people here in South

(22:55):
Carolina who are willing to stand up to law enforcement
and tell them they we don't want you arrested illegal immigrants.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
That rebellion will be quickly squashed by our law enforcement.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
It was a pretty funny posting by the sheriff of
Newberry County. I thought it. I thought his responses were perfect. Nonetheless,
you're going to see that play out, and we're now
seeing Shelton Whitehouse, who you know, is beyond reproach. He
looks very upset with Pam Bondy. This will be making
serious news today as Bondy's being asked about Oh now

(23:26):
they're asking about the Epstein files again. Yeah, yeah, but
plainly the Department of Justice and its overreach with the FBI,
in particular having to do with the streets of Chicago
and Portland. And I'm sure there'll be other cities joining
in as quickly as possible, because it's starting to get
great traction for him on the news coverage.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Well more importantly, I mean, look, the Democrats have made
it known for you can go back to The Weather Underground,
Barack Obama's heroes. The Weather Underground made it clear that
America is a bad place. Barack Obama told, we need
to fundamentally change America. They've been putting these plans in place.

(24:04):
This is not some new movement. This has been going
on for fifty sixty years. They when Donald Trump said
We're going to make America great again, the number one
response from the Democrats was when was America ever great?
So if you don't believe America was ever great, you've
of course got to fundamentally change it. Part of fundamentally
changing it is immigration laws, education system, all of it

(24:25):
has to be changed. And that's what they want to do.
They want to get rid of the Constitution and give
you a new one.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah, that's why the pushback is so fast and furious.
I mean, they've been busting their ass, and you know
you have to give them a tip to the hat
because that was the objective. It's much like the Muslims
told you, we're not trying to take over today, but
we have a plan to take you over in fifty years. Well,
you've been spending the past thirty forty years as a
Democrat infiltrating the education system to crank out at minimum

(24:51):
the college graduate, which you've been wanting to crank out.
Now that you started to change that mindset, you've got
some dude coming in here who's going to make America
great again. We're going to start rolling back our immigration policy.
Oh the pushback is going to come fast and furious.
And that's what we're seeing rolling out before our eyes
right now.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
It's a culture war at this moment that it doesn't
turn into a civil war.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
We don't let you burn our harvest. We got a
harvest time coming in here.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
You got to win the culture war first.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I did want to go back to one thing I
learned today, and Kelly helped me learn this because and
I read it, I thought, what the hell are you
talking about? Not all the Islanders posting up on social
media or discussing it in and around Atistowe Island have
jumped to embrace conspiracy theories and discerned criminal motives for
the fire. Some suggested less nefarious reasons for the inferno,

(25:43):
such as a faulty air conditioning unit. That house was
on fire. You're telling me that could happen from an
air conditioning unit.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, they said about one hundred to two hundred air
conditioning units a year blow up, and that's.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
I need to move by to like another fifty away
from a house.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
But they say it usually doesn't happen without a lot
of warning, meaning the machine will start making some weird
noises and stuff like that. And if you're getting your
machine machines looked at annually like you're supposed to get
a check up on them, then you're probably not gonna
have any problems.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
It scared me. I didn't realize that was a thing.